Apropiación cultural (conferencia en Tempe, Arizona) 1 de marzo 2024

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I cannot, in fact, start
a lecture, because we always start the

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program every Monday at ten o'
clock in the evening with the voice of

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the graduate Doris. So I'
m going to ask you to please open

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up today' s show, which
is recording a licensed Asendo just ahead,

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I stopped Arizona pure Radio a station
to share well, as well as thanked

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you. I also have a complaint
to make. I' m gonna complain

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about our Seed friends right now.
Yes, for the following, notice that

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they usually ask us for historical themes
about the history of Mexico, well,

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but the friends of Seeds always ask
us for theme that has to do with

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history, obviously, but themes with
another connotation. We' ve been here

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in Phinesis before. We are talking
about the American intervention, about the war

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Mexico, a complex issue and a
delicate issue. Then by Zom we talk

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about the conflict between Palestine and Israel
and this time they propose that we talk

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about cultural appropriation. Maybe they could
have told us. Talk about the Mexicans

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or talk about viceroyalty, about the
Revolution, not cultural appropriation. So this

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alleged complaint really isn' t.
Because of this because analyzing is the problem

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they are seeing, it is the
problem that you are living. Then I

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really thank you that you do put
us a little bit to study all this,

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because maybe we, on the Mexican
side, don' t realize this.

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Maybe we' re not realizing,
and not because it' s not

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happening, but because you' ve
been incredibly more aware of what' s

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going on than we are there.
Here comes my thanks for your concern to

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all of you. The issue of
cultural appropriation is complex, but it is

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something that is happening and very strong, very strong is to worry. So,

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thank you, seeds, thank you
for getting in trouble and getting to

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study and let' s talk about
this topic. I want to start with

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this first image. I want us
to analyze it well. This text is

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by Milan Cundera, a very large
figure of the 20th century and let'

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s analyze what he says. To
wipe out the nations, the first thing

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that is done is to take away
their memory, destroy their books, their

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culture, their history, and then
come to someone and write to other books

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and give them another culture and invent
another history. Then the nation, generation

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after generation, slowly begins to forget
what it is and what it has been.

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And the surrounding world forgets it even
much earlier. How strong, what

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Milan Kungray tells us, how strong. But let' s analyze it.

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To liquidate, that is, to
destroy a nation, the first thing that

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is done is to take away their
memory. It' s happening right now.

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I went out here in the hallway
and suddenly I loved seeing that table

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full of history books. It'
s full of history books. This is

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what they are taking away from us
as a nation. They' re taking

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away our history, our culture.
They' re taking him away from us.

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They take away our texts, our
books and tell us another very different

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story. For what, to liquidate
us, to liquidate the nations. Then

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the nation, generation after generation,
slowly begins to forget what it is.

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Friends. We' ve been forgetting. What we are, we' ve

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been forgetting. Then, thanks to
events like this, memory is perpetuated.

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It' s good that adults come, but it' s good that the

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little ones come, it' s
good that the children come, because they

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' re the ones who are going
to inherit our culture. Then we see

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the importance of this text from Milan
Cundera, and then we will enter with

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this same text. I' ll
finish at the end. It' s

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going to be the last slide,
too, because we' re going to

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understand why this says Nilancundera. This
is Mexico, Friends, this is Mexico.

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In Mexico we officially have sixty-
three ethnicities. This is sixty-

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three original peoples. One says son
is enough sixty- three to them,

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but what do they think was more
than three hundred. That is, we

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have lost almost eighty percent of our
original population. Eighty percent has been lost.

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Yet we remain a very rich country, rich in folklore, in culture,

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in traditions. But I' m
telling you, we' ve already

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lost eighty percent. Then languages have
been lost, traditions lost, customs lost

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and yet we are still extremely rich. But they want us to forget all

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this. Well, I want to
start by telling you a story. This

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story is found in a small book, in case you want to search for

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it, you find it in pdf, on the Internet. It' s

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called a Mexican story basket. The
author is Bruno Traven who is a mystery

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again. In the end it turned
out he was American, but he was

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thought to be German, etcetera.
There was a lot of mystery through Brunold

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Traven' s life and I want
to tell you this story. I don

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' t know it completely. I
didn' t memorise it in a gross

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way. I' m going to
tell you, but I want you to

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analyze it. Friends, take a
good look at this story and talk to

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us again. In this story he
says that an American who was an entrepreneur

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is suddenly visiting Mexico and is going
to give to Oaxaca and there, in

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Oaxaca he arrives to a small town. In that small town, touring the

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streets, he meets an old man
who is squatting at the door of his

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house and who is weaving baskets with
different ex placon material. He' s

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knitting them Then he stays watching the
baskets. He borrows one and observes that

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each little basket does not have a
printed image, but that what is seen

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on the outside is seen on the
inside. This is that each fiber was

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unique, and each fiber was assembled
in the basket. Then he finds it

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interesting and asks him how much your
baskets cost. As soon as you give

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them, I don' t remember
the figures well. I' ll give

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you an average number and he grabs
and says every little basket costs you sixty

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cents. Then it was very cheap. Compared to the Mexican dollar sixty cents,

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it' s practically nothing. It' s very little. Then they

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call his attention and decide to buy
him ten baskets. He travels to the

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United States in New York, where
he lived, passes or there' s

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going to be a candy store and
at the candy store he talks to the

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owner and says," Look,
I have this idea, why don'

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t you sell your candy in these
baskets. It' s going to give

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him a very nice package and besides, well, they' re going to

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sell you more, etcetera, etcetera. The man who owns the candy shop

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keeps looking at the basket and says
that this is a piece of art,

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because every fiber is accommodated in its
place. There' s nothing painted.

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The fiber was painted earlier. He
says I' m interested, but I

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need you to make me 12,
000 baskets. They say how much you

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' re gonna pay me, and
he says," Look, I'

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m gonna pay you four bucks for
every basket" When he was going to

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buy sixty cents like that. So
they make a contract, he' s

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gonna make thousands and thousands of dollars
out of this business. He goes back

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to Mexico, goes back to Oaxaca
and meets this gentleman and tells him what

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I come to propose to you a
business. He says to tell me what

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business he says He says how much
they give me the baskets in sixty cents.

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If I buy you ten, it' s six pesos. I'

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ll give you sixty cents and what
if I buy you a hundred, ah

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wow if you buy me a hundred
good, because if you buy me a

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hundred, I' ll give you
a weight each. So the American says

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don' t wait I' m
buying you. A hundred yes. That

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' s why he says if I
buy you ten, you give me the

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sixty, and if I buy you
a hundred, you give me the one

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weight yes, well. And if
I buy you a thousand and raise the

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poor man this thinking says no,
for I have no answer. They'

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re numbers he didn' t calculate. He says why he doesn' t

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come tomorrow and I tell them as
soon as I give them to him the

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next day the person arrives and he
says you already thought well about what I

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told you, yes, as soon
as you' re going to give me

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every little basket, I' ll
give it to him in ten pesos each.

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He says no. No, don' t wait. It can'

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t be that you' re raising
my price when I' m going to

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buy you so many to see if
I buy you 12, 000 in how

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much you' re going to give
me. No, well, 30 pesos

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each. So in the sound and
he' s not going crazy, because

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this guy doesn' t understand,
he doesn' t have logic. If

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you' re buying him 12,
000, you have to give it to

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him cheaper. Then you don'
t understand. He says to see,

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but why and this man explains words
to him more words less says because I

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take every little basket at least good
to make you a dozen baskets takes me

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at least a week because I have
to go to the Mount. This fiber

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doesn' t rip out anything else
because I do have to look for it

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on the Mount. Besides, I
have to cut it right when the moon

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is growing, so that the fiber
softens and doesn' t harden. Besides,

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I have to find the cochinilla so
I can get the color out and

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wait for the cochinilla to be fresh. And start explaining the whole process and

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tell him to do it for me. This would take me forever and my

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life would go away to make you
baskets apart. I wouldn' t take

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care of my milpa anymore, I
wouldn' t take care of my goats

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anymore. He says he wouldn'
t take care of my family anymore.

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My family could starve to death,
but you don' t realize that with

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the money I' m going to
pay you you can buy a lot of

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animals and it' s more and
they' re so many baskets. You

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can hire a lot of people to
do them and who' s gonna take

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care of the animals of all of
them and who' s gonna plant the

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land. I mean, I'
m selling you my life and that'

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s what my life is worth.
Then the American gets angry, sends him

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to fly and turns completely failed to
the United States. That' s the

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first Mexican story basket story. But
that teaches us how our mentality is.

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While the American sees all money,
money to do business and here I earn

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so much and that I lower him
here, that he goes up here,

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she is seeing that, while our
native peoples saw in each basket a simple

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basket, a work of art and
they were leaving their life, pieces of

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their life in every work of art, while the others were used to doing

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it all in series and all the
same. And today we' re going

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to mention, for example, the
leles dolls that there isn' t one

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identical. This is the secret of
the Queretan dolls. Lenile dolls will never

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find one equal to another. They
never meet. They' re all original,

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so they' re unique pieces,
while the ones they' re marketing

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already make them in series and they' re all identical. So I wanted

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to start this practice. Precisely with
that, our artisans are not producing anything

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else. They are leaving their lives, they are leaving their breasts, they

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are leaving their culture, they are
leaving their experiences. Every piece we buy

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from a craftsman comes his life there, so they have a different value.

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Why all this because of what we' re going to see next, Mexico

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is a very, very rich country, let' s go. I'

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m not a religious person, but
if I believed in God, I say,

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" Wow, how he blessed Mexico" Oh, God. We are

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still the world' s first silver
producer and we have taken out and taken

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out silver and flooded Europe with our
silver. And in the viceroyal period,

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the silver coin, the silver coin
that circulated almost all over the world was

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the Spanish coin that was made of
Mexican silver. What' s more,

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the famous dollar symbol. When the
United States became independent, it continued to

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use the Spanish currency. Of course, the currency used here for up to

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a hundred years After independence, the
United States made the dollar. They,

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that is here the United States a
hundred years used the good Mexican viceroyal currency.

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Moreover, the emblem of the Spanish
coins had the Hercules columns two columns.

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Look at those coins and it'
s got two columns. That'

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s why the dollar is written with
a s that' s silver. This

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is silver with two columns and that' s why it has two little rays.

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To this day, two thousand twenty- four are still in their currency.

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Recognizing that the origin of the currency
in the United States was the silver

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of New Spain and our currency,
which was made in Mexico, circulated throughout

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the East. With the Manila Galeon. It was the best quality silver.

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I don' t rest with these
merits to Peruvian silver and Bolivian silver,

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but where more silver was minted it
was here and one would say, because

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that silver is going to end.
We are not still the first country to

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produce silver. See how I mean
us as I tell you. Although I

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am not religious, I have to
acknowledge the blessings God has given to our

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land. We were on the table
the previous time and I like to mention

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it the Mexican tuna and that every
time there are problems with the United States,

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the first thing they do is punish
our tuna. And one says well

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what the Mexican tuna has, because
the Mexican tuna, what it has is

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that the Soban females in the polar
circle over Alaska of Soban and the tunas

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are that small and begin to migrate
the tunas and begin to go down the

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whole coast. Yes, and as
they progress, they grow. And when

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they pass through Canada, tunas are
already that size, because they are growing.

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And when they pass in front of
the United States, the tunas are

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already this size. And when they
pass through Baja California, tuna is like

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this. And when they get to
Oaxaca and Guerrero, the tuna is huge.

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It' s not our fault.
They can' t fish in the

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grave, in the polar circle because
it' s been small. However,

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our coasts tuna is huge. That' s why our tun is so cheap.

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We have a lot of tuna and
I always tell you that there is

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an economic pressure, then it punishes
our tuna because we sell our tuna very

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well I tell you our land has
absolutely friends our archaeological zones. In Mexico

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we have one hundred and seventy-
two archaeological zones that we can visit,

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which are open to the public,
are Amaya, the central area, the

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North, etc. One hundred seventy- two, one hundred seventy- three.

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They know how many archaeological areas are
still uninvestigated and are underground. Yes,

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the National Institute of Anthropology and History
has catalogued more than 40, 000

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archaeological sites, more than forty zero. This means that our past is still

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buried. Hey, there he is
buried in our past. Then all this

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wealth. If what we see impresses
us now, imagine what is down there

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is more, this whole cultural heritage
belongs to all of us. It belongs

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to all of us are our ancestors. A moment ago, one of our

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visiting friends here taught me, did
his DNA test to see where he was

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coming from and stopped showing it to
me on his cell phone and has also

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native offspring of these. Good from
America. So we all come from here

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by a lot, we almost prevented
from here and we have to tell you

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more than forty zero archaeological areas still
buried. Imagine everything that will be there,

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our history, well I was talking
to you about our cultural diversity.

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Sixty- three ethnicities recognized here only
a small sample of them. B lacandons,

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otomies, huicholes, coras. And
we can go on and on and

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on? And go on? All
of them, each of these peoples has

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their own tradition, has their own
customs, their own history, but they

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have unfortunately taught us to be ashamed
of our history. What' s more,

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we use the word Indian as an
insult, when we' re all

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Indians here. Sorry, but we' re all Indians here. But I

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want to insult someone It looks like
sindium. Yeah, civilize yourself. We

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use it as an insult. This
is embarrassing. You know, they know

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us from the radio show. But
besides, I' m a psychologist,

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I' m a clinical psychologist.
Obviously, I can' t give names

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of any of my patients, but
I can tell you that, I attend

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several patients that their main problem is
their skin pain, here they are going

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to worry. That' s why
a lot of people, a lot of

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people, are worried about their skin
color. And that' s what we

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in Mexico don' t have so
much of the racial difference with Afros,

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for example, as here in the
United States. However, there are people

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who, because they are brunette,
are ashamed and their self- esteem goes

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down the floor. And I'
ve been told because I look like an

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Indian. But why is this,
because they have taught us to be ashamed

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of them, they have taught us
to be ashamed of these people. When

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they' re my grandparents, they' re my great- grandparents, they

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' re my great- grandparents,
so I do my best not to look

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like them. I do the impossible. I' m going to dress up

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in other clothes, I' m
going to have another gesture, even change

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the skin color with creams and how
many creams we see to lighten the skin

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and I don' t sunn.
He touched me, I swear. I

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' ve been touched by people on
the beach going and instead of putting a

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towel and lying on the towel,
they remember in the sand and put on

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the towel above so they don'
t burn because of their skin color.

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They' re afraid of getting darker. But why. Because they taught us

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that this is shameful, that our
ancestors were inferior. We' ve said

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that many times on the show.
We are not superior to anyone, but

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neither are we inferior to anyone.
All peoples are on the same level,

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all cultures are on the same level, we are all equal, but why

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feel less, why be ashamed of
this. Well, these examples, the

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famous waist looms. We still see
areas of Oaxaca, areas of villages,

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etcetera. We see the famous waist
looms. We did not put the photo

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by loom, but by the richness
of the colors of the clothes. It

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' s an impressive wealth, and
if you notice it, it' s

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not just any fabric. See how
many colors in a square half, how

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many colors, how many figures,
how many shapes. This is all not

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decoration. It has meaning for all
of them. See here their production,

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this colorful, this richness, our
people have it. However, we,

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when we see something like that then, maybe, if we dare to overcome

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the shame of buying from an Indian
apart, I will pay him anything,

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I will do the same as the
American. I' ll do you a

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favor to buy you. Give me
the cheapest and we don' t realize

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all the work you' re carrying, that this woman who' s there

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without her waist loom and stretching and
stretching and stretching? How many hours does

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it take to work? I don' t want to ask, but here

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you guys in Mexico, we work
at the lowest daily air. You work

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here minimum hourly wage, so how
many hours of work this woman is working,

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how many hours of her life.
He stopped being in the same position

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and we didn' t value him. But today we' re going to

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return this whole part. You see
this when we talk about these embroidery,

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these fabrics, everyone has a story. Here we are watching a party,

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a meal. We' re looking
up there at the musicians. Everything tells

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us about a story. Each of
these hollows, twigs, blouses, shirts,

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tells us a whole story. But
we, maybe we just see the

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color. Yeah, we can'
t deny what, which is delicious,

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but I tell you all the cultural
background that has all this. Well,

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our dances and good Ahorita have just
been our brother- concheros who have been

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dancing. It' s an inheritance
that we have every dance. Look how

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each one has his story. It
is true that we have many dances that

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have already mixed with the Spanish,
like the dance of the Moors, etcetera.

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But we have other dances, for
example, the dance of the old

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ones. And that we go to
Morelia and we see the dancers out there

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dancing and we find it nice when
they dance yes and that they all pull

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and the old guy of the last
one is the one who falls and we

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always see the same choreography is fun, it' s nice. But if

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we analyze a little bit that the
dance of the elderly was done respecting the

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elderly, because before the arrival of
the Spaniards, yes, those who gave

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the Council to the emperor were elders. And all the elders gathered together,

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and they were the ones who gave
the council. It is true that he

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commanded the Katzonsi, but he always
obeyed the advice of the old men.

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That' s why that dance came
up, though years later. But that

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' s why that dance came up. And we can talk about each one

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of the dances, including the so- called tapatío syrup, which also has

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a whole history and which has to
do with our culture and which, proudly

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is the costume that represents us that
there is a lot of litigation, a

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friendly lawsuit to clear precho, nice, because they say hey, Jalisco acaparón,

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does not use, does not have
the typical costume, has the mariachio

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and that is the typical music.
It has the traditional Mexican drink, which

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is the tequila oigan, Jalisco caught
Yes, left nothing to the others.

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We don' t have characteristic things
in all of Mexico. Friends. This,

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please, and here is my weakness. Mexican food. Mexican food is

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considered the second most varied food in
the world, worldwide, of the more

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than two hundred countries there are.
Tell me which part of Mexico there are

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no tamales, and not because there
are tamales everywhere means that all tamales are

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the same. Each region has its
own tamales, each region and does not

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resemble each other. What can I
tell you about my land, the corundas

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and the humps, which are our
original tamales, and so we can talk

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about all the tamales, the enchiladas, friends, please, enchiladas, Queretanas,

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Potocinas, Mining, Poblanas, etcetera. Lots of food we have.

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Wealth is true. More wealth was
given with the arrival of Spanish cuisine.

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It' s true, especially in
sweets. But good a dish as traditional

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as this, the chilies in Nogada, that we normally consume September and that

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was a dish made for Agustín de
Iturbide and that remained as a traditional Mexican

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dish. Look, it' s
okay. I also like to try other

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anti- terf foods, which led
us to eat Vietnamese food. Very rich

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Vietnamese food, but I don'
t change my food. Uh, and

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if anything missed when I traveled is
my food. I ask you if I

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have done this experiment several times to
ask you who you remember with some food.

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A lot of people tell me I
remember my mom when I try the

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green mole I remember my aunt or
my grandma when I try the enchiladas.

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I can tell you that I come
from a very small town and my grandmother

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tended to make comal tortillas and I
was very young. Four years, five

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years on the griddle, still on
the griddle of that big log of wood

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to the griddle and she grabbed making
her tortilla and suddenly pulled out a piece

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of salt, rolled it, squeezed
it and gave it to me. To

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this day. I try a taco
of those conn salt combal tortillas and I

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remember my grandmother immediately remember her.
It is part of our culture, of

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our life. The food is,
well, we' ve been losing them

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here too. I want to already
put a sample of what' s happening

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to us over here, right now, I tell you apart from insito,

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I' m a psychologist, I
teach a university and I tell my students

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see how people when they' re
coming to an office something like that,

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first the star Buks comes in that
person. Yeah,' cause I grab

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hold of My I' m gonna
take a moment this grab my star Boks

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and I' m gonna brag about
it and I' m gonna do this

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for everybody to see the Star Boks. So if I' m going to

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go into an office, yeah,
I get into star bus first and then

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I get in. Then I'
m sorry. I don' t drink

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much coffee. I rarely drink coffee, but when I go to town a

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coffee from Hoya with cinnamon, I
don' t miss it. It'

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s delicious our coffee. Apart from
the coffee made in Veracruz, Chiapas,

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Oaxaca. It' s delicious coffee. That we' re buying brand.

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We' re buying brand and it' s valid. Yeah, you want

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to take a star Burks. Take
it, but you' re really taking

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it for the flavor. Or you' re taking it because you have you

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can afford to buy such an expensive
coffee. And what you' re buying

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is a brand. Nothing more.
It' s like what I told them

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at the beginning. See how much
a basket cost and as soon as this

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man wanted to sell them. So, our products really are very varied.

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We were talking about viceroyalty in the
Euro Radio programmes recently and I said something

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very important. In Mexico, there
is no hunger, Friends, we have

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not had throughout our history a famine. There have been areas where suddenly it

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doesn' t rain. Yes,
it is true, there have been places

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where the grain has been scarce,
it is true, but it always compensates

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one place with another. In Mexico, Friends, there is no hunger.

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We have not gone through famines like
in Africa, as in South Asia,

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which people are dying of hunger.
Now today, yes, February of two

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thousand twenty- four, no longer
March, true, Today is March,

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the two thousand twenty- four.
It' s more forgiveness for the little

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ugly expression. But even someone who' s a tea for eight or a

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junkie on the streets in Mexico City
comes up to a taco stand and feed

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them. We go south southeast,
yes, and find the trees in the

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public squares have mangoes, mango trees
and the mango pulled. One says it

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' s wasted. It' s
not like we have a lot. We

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' ve just been with friends off
the coast of Guerrero. Yeah, coyunca,

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et cetera. Dear friends over there. He' s talking about honey.

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I remember and told us, Professor, if you eat a piece of

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watermelon and spit out the seeds,
you don' t need to bury them

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a week. It' s already
growing. The watermelon guide is already growing.

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So our land is from Rica,
not all regions, the north is

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arid, but what is from the
center down we are rich. It'

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s more. I always tell you
we' re so rich in Mexico that

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if we sow a little bit of
chicharrón, a little tree comes out like

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this and hanged from the tail and
we just cut off the rabitos, that

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is, we have everything there.
That' s how our land is from

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Rica. However, how we are
buying products from abroad. I give you

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an example. From the schisms of
one thousand nine hundred and eighty- five.

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Mexico is the main consumer of bottled
water in the world. I see

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a lot of bottled water here,
because what is here from Mexico we consume

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more bottled water. Why, because
we have this idea that our water is

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very bad and we buy everything bottled, that we are the main consumer of

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bottled water. We don' t
trust our own food. I' m

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not telling you. Get to Mexico
and take the tap or the key,

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no, but we' ve been
drying out our rivers, we' ve

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been damaging them. If I have
been in spring areas, I do not

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know if any of you have had
the opportunity to be in a spring,

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where you are being born, where
the water is springing up and try one.

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The lake is very rich, the
water is very rich, because Mexico

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has a lot of food, quantity. Let' s get into those more

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specific issues. I was talking to
them about the colors, this purple snail

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that is found on the coasts of
Oaxaca and part of the coasts of Chiapas.

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This snail see the beauty of the
little animal is found among the stones

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on the coast. That' s
where this little animal grows. And with

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this little animal, with the baby
of this snail, the cotton threads are

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dyed, well dyed, this snail. Our ancestors, especially the Mixtecs,

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especially the Zapotecs, they grabbed the
snail, pulled it out and kind of

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squeezed it a little bit without killing
the little animal to squeeze it, and

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put it on the fiber. Yeah, and then they left the little animal

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and the little animal got back in
the rocks and that' s what these

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colors had. This is the purple
that does not exist anywhere in the world.

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Well, when this color is discovered
in Europe, they believe that many

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layers of that used by kings,
including layers of Queen Elizabeth of England,

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who has already passed away, layers
of potatoes, have been dyed with this

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color because they haven' t been
able to find it anywhere else Well,

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what' s going on, that
ships are coming, they are predators and

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00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:45.279
they get to the coasts and they
grab this snail, they capture it and

412
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:52.319
grind it so they can get the
color out of it so that Ahorita is

413
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:58.079
already the permanent vega and our marine
secretary is watching the coasts to prevent them

414
00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:01.759
from continuing to kill the snail,
the snail to take and put it back

415
00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:04.640
and squeeze it a little bit more
and let it go free. But right

416
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:07.280
now, they grind it, they
put it in machines so they can squeeze

417
00:34:07.280 --> 00:34:09.519
it out and color it out.
That' s how they' re destroying

418
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:15.679
our wealth. Well the cochineal grana, another fabulous color that we have and

419
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:20.000
that is formed with this little animal
that we have to be looking for.

420
00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:23.159
Yeah, this little animal that'
s here, we have to look for

421
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:27.000
it, we have to get it
out? Yeah, and so is the

422
00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:30.559
one that' s going to produce
this wonderful color. Why am I making

423
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:35.519
these mentions, because if you read
Brunon' s book, I' m

424
00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:37.199
just going through it. I told
them in a gross way the story.

425
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:45.559
The person who sold the baskets painted
with cochinella, painted with these little animals

426
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:50.599
and those were the colors of their
baskets. According to Bruno they travel so

427
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:55.559
we put this image on them well
and suddenly we see friends, that is,

428
00:34:55.800 --> 00:35:00.039
how I' m going to dress
in Indian colors. Yeah, those

429
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:06.559
colors are plain Indian. And suddenly
we see we try to avoid because this

430
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:10.119
program we begin to broadcast. True, it' s being broadcast, it

431
00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:13.079
' s being watched by several people, it' s going to be uploaded

432
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:16.760
to YouTube. Then we try not
to put marks to avoid problems. But

433
00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:22.440
I think we all identify the emblem. Yes, then, suddenly clothes started

434
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:29.760
coming out that used our designs and
I say ours because even though I don

435
00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:32.400
' t make them, they'
re my people, they' re my

436
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:36.800
people and that' s why I
appropriate them. Then I say our designs

437
00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:39.320
began to come out in exclusive garments. That' s why I gave them

438
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:43.280
the example of Star Books. The
example of Star Books is that it'

439
00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:45.800
s coffee, just like another coffee, but the brand is what matters to

440
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:52.760
me. So I appreciate these tones, these dresses, these blouses. I

441
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:57.920
appreciate them for the color. I
make them stand out in eggo and I

442
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:01.400
put a brand name on it and
I look very expensive. Then, all

443
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:05.679
of a sudden now, yes,
I' ve already discovered, I'

444
00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:07.760
ve already discovered. Wow, how
colorful, how beautiful. You don'

445
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:12.679
t know what I mean, not
a man, Davis Javis looks like.

446
00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:16.199
Yeah, why,' cause what
I' m seeing is this, this

447
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:20.280
is what I' m seeing.
This is what interests me, this is

448
00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:24.239
what I want to brag about.
Yeah, I' m not bragging about

449
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:28.480
this and I repeat it, though
it' s copied. There' s

450
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:31.079
no story here. This is a
decoration. Nothing more. There is no

451
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:37.159
story here, as we saw in
natural fabrics and embroidery, there is no

452
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:43.719
story. Well, I want to
point out how Bruno traven wrote the Mexican

453
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:50.719
story basket. There have been foreigners
who have equally appreciated our craftsmanship. Who

454
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:59.079
knows Marley Monroe. Okay. This
series of photos were the last to take

455
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:05.079
more r Monroe, the last photo
shoot he had in life. She was

456
00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:12.039
in Acapulco, Mexico. He bought
a chinconcuac sweater he posed with this sweater

457
00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:15.760
they made him that series of photographs. Leave Mexico, get to Los Angeles

458
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:21.960
and die for one over two.
It is. The last photo shoot was

459
00:37:22.039 --> 00:37:27.639
made with a Chiconcuac sweater two or
three years ago. This sweater went up.

460
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:31.599
They paid tens of thousands of dollars
just for that obvious brain, because

461
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:35.960
it' s Marilyn, that is, state an icon. But see how

462
00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:40.800
there were people or there are people
who have appreciated that they are not ashamed

463
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:45.800
to bring, because this is not
printed, all this about these sweaters.

464
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:47.719
Which of you haven' t seen
them at best, the younger ones,

465
00:37:49.000 --> 00:37:52.519
but the older ones we' ve
had these sweaters and there they' re

466
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:57.960
stuck to Mexico City, there'
s Chico Quack and we' ve had

467
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:01.440
these sweaters. I know I wish
this would be rescued. This will be

468
00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:06.239
valued more. We see it as
very simple, but there have been people

469
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:10.360
who have valued it and who are
foreigners. Let' s mention it.

470
00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:15.559
In Mexico a national prize is given
to handicrafts and we will mention this textile

471
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:21.960
maker, Ricardo Hernández. Sochitemolo why, because he thinks of doing this.

472
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:27.280
You see the textiles that we'
ve already seen the work you' re

473
00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:29.599
carrying, but see what they'
re doing. He' s putting them

474
00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:32.880
in tennis, shoes, tennis,
that' s putting our designs on.

475
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:39.119
Yes, and very commercial brands are
being sold. They' re selling tennis.

476
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:46.599
They' re selling tennis with our
Mexican designs, coras, huicholes,

477
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:52.480
series, trauma, etcetera. They' re being used to sell temis.

478
00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:57.840
But the idea is a Mexican.
But because he' s a Mexican.

479
00:38:58.320 --> 00:39:02.480
Whoever' s going to buy this, then I better buy it from big

480
00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:07.599
brands and they all do it in
series. The pair of TVs I bought

481
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:10.079
is identical to I don' t
know a hundred thousand pairs of tennis.

482
00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:15.239
However, all of this does have
a whole story, but he did well.

483
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:23.239
See also plan designs against Tlaxcala and
Saltillo Coahuila. That' s how

484
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:29.960
our clothes are running, our soleters, our coats, they' re copying

485
00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:34.159
our designs that, as we'
ve seen, are not designs ten years

486
00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:37.800
ago, they' re designs that
have centuries and that are there and we

487
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:42.360
follow it. I mean, our
ethnic groups keep keeping it, and we

488
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:45.480
don' t appreciate it anymore,
and I don' t say. I

489
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:49.639
' m saying this because we don' t stand up for it. However,

490
00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:53.199
there is already a very strong movement
in Mexico in defense. It was

491
00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:59.760
precisely from this that demands were raised
at the international level for the theft they

492
00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:04.920
are making of our culture and our
identity. Let me make this part clear

493
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:08.559
to you. How we can understand
this issue. It' s not just

494
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:13.960
that I wear clothes from another culture. It' s not a crime to

495
00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:16.199
put it on me. I can
buy an Arab suit and take it away.

496
00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:23.719
I can put it on, but
they catalogue certain garments, certain artifacts

497
00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:30.440
as cultural objects. I can dress
in Arabic as long as I respect what

498
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:34.400
I bring, as long as I
don' t respect it, if nothing

499
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:37.920
else, I wear it for fashions
and nothing else I wear to throw gossip

500
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:42.079
they can sue me, but if
I put it on everything I do anyway

501
00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:45.360
I become Muslim. There are many
people who change their religion and I start

502
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:50.840
wearing the Muslim tunic. I'
m fully entitled to do it, but

503
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:53.239
I' m going to do it
with that respect. Unfortunately, we are

504
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:59.079
not respecting it and now we are
simply doing it for fashion. We saw

505
00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:04.039
in that study that we did of
all this, several photographs of fashion parades,

506
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:08.159
wedding parades of big houses in New
York, where they are paraded with

507
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:16.239
plumes of the native peoples here in
the United States, just as for giving

508
00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:22.320
it a style, as for giving
it a flashy one. They go out

509
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:24.480
with their dresses, but they go
out with plumes. That' s a

510
00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:29.199
joke already. That is where they
are disrespecting this whole tradition and culture.

511
00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:31.639
These aren' t ornaments, friends, this isn' t a donor.

512
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:37.000
This whole thing has a mysticism,
everything has a story. Then I can

513
00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:40.440
' t bring things like that.
I know it' s hard to understand

514
00:41:40.440 --> 00:41:45.239
here. But for example, I' ve seen a lot of people wearing

515
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:51.360
underwear with the American flag. I
mean it with respect. It' s

516
00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:53.800
forbidden in Mexico. We can'
t do that. I can' t

517
00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:58.679
print underwear with the Mexican flag.
It' s used here. They allow

518
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:01.519
it here. Well, it'
s okay here, in Mexico you don

519
00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:06.920
' t allow any occasion. I
see, for example, here you sing

520
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:10.679
the national anthem of the United States
and you can sing it in different styles,

521
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:15.039
in rock, in jazz as you
want. You can sing it as

522
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:19.719
long as you sing it with respect, but you can change the rhythm.

523
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:24.480
In Mexico not our national anthem flag
law states that the anthem will always be

524
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:29.000
sung exactly the same. It doesn' t change. We can' t

525
00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:32.159
change it. That' s why
they' ve booed so many people who

526
00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:36.840
' re in a boxing fight and
they go up to someone to sing and

527
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:39.079
they want to sing the Mexican anthem
American- style. This is with falcetes,

528
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:45.320
this is falsified and people start bubbling
it and that' s why they

529
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:49.800
get nervous they forget even the lyrics
of the anthem. It' s worse

530
00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:53.119
when they forget. Well, they
are different customs, but Mexico, at

531
00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:57.639
least the law is very jealous,
but we are the ones who have changed

532
00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:05.519
it. Well, they' re
more examples of known brands that are copying

533
00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:07.840
Mexican designs. If you go to
Mexico, you go to the State of

534
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:12.320
Mexico, you go to Puebla,
you go to Veracruz, you go to

535
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:14.760
San Luis Potosí, you are going
to Queretaro. They' re gonna find

536
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:16.639
all this. Guys, you'
re gonna find him there. There it

537
00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:20.519
is and it is in the Tianguis, it is in a stall, on

538
00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:22.599
the corner, they are next to
the square of the village. That'

539
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:25.440
s where they' re gonna find
them. But I don' t buy

540
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:29.159
it why. Because I' m
not seeing him in New York, because

541
00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:30.719
I' m not seeing him in
San Francisco and Ahorita. This is what

542
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:37.159
they' re selling us there.
I' m going to New York and

543
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:39.719
suddenly I buy a pair of shoes. The pair of shoes comes out to

544
00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:45.519
me two hundred and fifty dollars.
A pair of shoes I' ll lift

545
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:50.000
up the lid inside the shoe.
I' ll pick her up. It

546
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:54.960
says made the Leon Guanajuato. Yes, they are made in León Guanajuato extraordinary

547
00:43:55.079 --> 00:44:00.320
to work the skin throughout that area. But what I require I am buying

548
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:05.760
are brand friends, where I want
to go with this, to which we

549
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:14.000
currently have the effect that foreign people
buy our crafts, buy what our artisans

550
00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:22.639
do and even dress like Mexicans,
put on this blanket clothes and sell us

551
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:28.639
what is being produced there and sell
it to us twenty, thirty, forty

552
00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:37.079
times more expensive. Why, because, unfortunately, I' d rather buy

553
00:44:37.119 --> 00:44:43.119
someone white than an Indian. How
I' m going to buy an Indian,

554
00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:46.679
I' d rather buy a white
man. And that' s where

555
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:51.599
we' re losing our identity.
Nor is it about this practice being xenophobic

556
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:55.239
and saying let' s hate whites. It' s not about that,

557
00:44:55.760 --> 00:45:01.840
it' s all about our culture. We' re all going to represent

558
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:06.960
ourselves to culture in everything we do. Our artisans, as we see them

559
00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:13.880
there at that table, our artisans
reflect our culture. Then I think my

560
00:45:14.039 --> 00:45:19.760
culture reflects it better. A Mexican, a South African, for example,

561
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:25.280
or a Chinese. And I want
to give you another example, and this

562
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:28.519
is where I regret it. I
swear to you, and I said it

563
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:32.000
at another three or four conferences.
I regret it. I tell you,

564
00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:35.840
I' m not religious. However, on one occasion, when we have

565
00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:38.239
guests going to Mexico, I tell
them where you want them to take you.

566
00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:43.159
Not so, to the pyramids to
the Zócalo and to the Basilica of

567
00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:46.639
Guadalupe. And several years ago I
took some relatives to the Basilica of Guadalupe.

568
00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:52.920
I respect everyone' s religious ideas, so I let them enter the

569
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:59.079
Basilica. Yes, and I stood
outside watching the crafts, but in the

570
00:45:59.119 --> 00:46:02.360
commercial premises, not the ones on
the floor, but the commercial premises.

571
00:46:04.559 --> 00:46:09.280
And I was watching the crafts.
And all of a sudden I go to

572
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:16.920
Back when I see a virgin of
Guadeloupe with the gritty little eyes and I

573
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:22.239
look like this I said wait for
me and suddenly I see Juan Diego Hincado

574
00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:24.360
and with his eyes torn I said
brus lí or who this is. No,

575
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:30.960
because his eyes are torn. I
did lift her up and say"

576
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:35.719
Mading China," but they made
a mistake and made oriental eyes on her.

577
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:39.760
I mean, my mistake was not
buying it. I would have bought

578
00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:45.760
it for this, because I would
have liked to show it because a few

579
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:51.360
days later there was a scandal that
the Primate Archbishop of Mexico, Norberto Rivera,

580
00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:54.400
had sold the production rights of the
Virgin of Guadalupe. He sold them

581
00:46:54.440 --> 00:47:00.519
to the Chinese and began to make
virgins of Guadalupe San Jude even of you

582
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:05.119
and all with torn eyes. When
they realized, they destroyed that production,

583
00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:08.960
corrected their eyes and sent them.
Well, I' m saying why I

584
00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:14.800
didn' t buy one, that' s so damn curious to show you

585
00:47:14.800 --> 00:47:15.239
guys see, I' m not
lying. Here is the Virgin of Guadeloupe

586
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:21.280
Chinita. Yes, to that degree. How it is possible that we sell

587
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:24.960
the rights of the Virgin of Guadalupe
and that the Chinese are making our virgin.

588
00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:30.719
Yeah, imagine how we' re
losing identity there. Very much,

589
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:37.159
very much identity. These are how
certain garments are being sold via the Internet.

590
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:43.239
They are seen in garments and are
copies of the original garments. They

591
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:46.960
are copies and are sold online and
sold very well. They sell very well.

592
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:52.199
And our artisans where they are.
They don' t benefit from any

593
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:57.519
of this. When all these embroidery, all these fabrics, I repeat,

594
00:47:57.920 --> 00:48:01.000
have their story well xa, whatever, friends, the truth that beauty.

595
00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:07.400
Yeah, I wouldn' t have
imagined frigid shoes. I wouldn' t

596
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:10.760
have imagined it. When I started
seeing tennis, for example, not with

597
00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:15.519
the map of the Republic full of
colorful. I said it' s a

598
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:17.360
good thing things are done. I
mean, this doesn' t mean the

599
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:21.639
most to be for the little ones. This isn' t for anyone.

600
00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:27.159
See the things so parenting they do. Just let you see these tennis and

601
00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:32.199
see the brand up there. Yeah, that' s the problem. See

602
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:36.559
the brand who' s making them, who' s selling them. And

603
00:48:36.599 --> 00:48:39.760
the truth looks beautiful, the truth
looks very beautiful, but see who makes

604
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:47.840
them. This is appropriation. They' re appropriating our culture. So,

605
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:52.119
if someone makes me some tennis,
like this, I don' t buy

606
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:55.880
them but as I see the brand
up there, then I go and buy

607
00:48:55.920 --> 00:48:59.960
them that I' m buying the
brand. That' s what you really

608
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:07.880
buy in Oaxacan designs that are Mazatec
used by foreign companies and artisans of the

609
00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:12.480
same Tehualtepec isthmus. All these clothes
that you' re seeing, these here

610
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:16.519
and these here, they' re
Mexican designs, but they' re clothes

611
00:49:16.559 --> 00:49:21.000
that foreigners are selling. They'
re selling them, they' re the

612
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:25.360
ones that are benefiting. So we
wanted to put them, along with the

613
00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:28.360
graduate, several samples of it and
I' m going back to the same

614
00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:32.199
thing. See what is original.
Look at this beauty It' s that

615
00:49:32.199 --> 00:49:37.960
kind of detail They' re awesome. The work of our craftsmen is impressive.

616
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:44.400
The dolls of I was what I
told them. These dolls are made

617
00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:49.239
in Querétaro, that is, a
traditional handicraft of our beloved State of Querétaro,

618
00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:53.679
and the characteristic of the dolls is
that it is never equal to another.

619
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:59.599
They all have a different design.
All of them. If there are

620
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:02.679
100, 000 dolls, the 100, 000 dolls are different. They'

621
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:07.760
re all different. However, they
are being sold. Yes, see Mexican

622
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:13.159
doll and these are made in series. Just like this one is. There

623
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:17.039
are fifteen more identical zeros. Besides, the materials are not the same.

624
00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:22.920
See the finish, see the style, See, for example, the slats

625
00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:28.360
that adorn the hair completely different.
The type of stammer used, everything is

626
00:50:29.239 --> 00:50:35.039
different. They use cheap materials and
this makes them machines. Yeah. On

627
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:37.840
the other hand, each of these
does come back to the same thing.

628
00:50:37.920 --> 00:50:45.199
They remember the baskets. How many
hours of his life he left each of

629
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:52.000
our artisans to make these dolls.
How many hours of her life are there

630
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:55.239
then how much of them put her
from the ornament. Here, on the

631
00:50:55.320 --> 00:51:01.760
neck, i e, it'
s a huge wealth of each of us

632
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:07.840
had a chance to be in amealco
querétaro, which is the cradle of the

633
00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:14.320
lele dolls are creternas, but they
are born in amealco and in amealco makes

634
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:17.239
an exhibition and has a giant lele, like of about four meters enormous speakers

635
00:51:17.239 --> 00:51:22.320
the lele. That' s where
we took pictures and we finished the conference

636
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:25.599
and they gave us away, they
gave us our dolls. Lele. This

637
00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:28.960
doesn' t mean it' s
for the girls to play. Nothing else

638
00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:31.199
can be given to an adult.
It' s a piece of art,

639
00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:37.280
because our dolls were given to me. I' m very happy to keep

640
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:39.159
this doll, because I tell you
it' s a unique piece. I

641
00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:42.840
know many may have them, but
no one has the one I have.

642
00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:45.800
Yeah, that' s a fact. No one has the one I have.

643
00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:49.280
Then it' s more. Mine' s prettier than the licensors'.

644
00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:52.320
That' s because she tells me
mine looks prettier. It' s

645
00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:54.800
not true, it' s prettier
than mine. But, I tell you,

646
00:51:54.800 --> 00:52:00.440
this is our art, this is
to watch the movie. Coco look,

647
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:07.360
folks, it' s good Disney
made this great movie. Good thing

648
00:52:07.360 --> 00:52:12.639
he did because he made a lot
of our traditions known to the world.

649
00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:15.519
On that side, there' s
no complaint. I tell you an anecdote.

650
00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:20.119
I' m not much of a
football player, but you see there

651
00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:22.800
was a football World Cup in Russia. I don' t know if any

652
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:25.760
of you can remember what was the
year of the World Cup of Russia two

653
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:28.679
thousand eight, two thousand. That
way, the World Cup of Russia.

654
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:34.360
Well, several Mexicans went to the
World Cup in Russia. So how they

655
00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:37.039
were on the plane, and so
on, and they agreed at the travel

656
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:40.760
agencies. They were going to support
the national team. They agreed to see

657
00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:45.199
that there' s a whole party
going on, when it' s the

658
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:47.440
world championship, there' s a
whole party going on. Then they agreed

659
00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:55.880
to wear calaca masks. Then they
arrive at the stadium, support the team,

660
00:52:55.880 --> 00:52:59.960
etcetera. And I tell you it' s done like a verbena come

661
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:04.559
out of the sole that it'
s about three hundred and fifty Mexicans and

662
00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:07.559
they all put on their Calaca masks
and go dancing and that if the cute

663
00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:14.159
honey and go through the streets and
suddenly they' re surrounded, but everywhere

664
00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:19.280
by the Moscow police, the lot
of vans and cars of the Moscow police

665
00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:22.840
and all around the Mexican baton and
they stop them all and put them in

666
00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:28.679
a police station. Yes, but
why, because they were arrested and locked

667
00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:32.960
up, and from there they communicate
with the Ambassador of Mexico in Moscow that

668
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:39.760
immediately the commissian communicates why you arrested
them for disrespect, disrespect, drunkenness or

669
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:47.480
what they did. They all put
on death masks. That' s disrespectful.

670
00:53:49.280 --> 00:53:52.519
And there you go to the ambassador
and go immediately to the police station

671
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:55.400
and tell him to see me is
that you are, that is, you

672
00:53:55.400 --> 00:53:58.840
don' t understand. It'
s part of our tradition. It'

673
00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:04.079
s not that putting on a death
mask is a crime, that is,

674
00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:08.079
disrespect. It says for us Mexicans, no, we live with this.

675
00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:13.880
It' s part of our identity, death, and we use it.

676
00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:19.280
Although it is also true the saying
that says to the country whatever it is

677
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:22.000
is do what you see and if
they have a lot of respect for this,

678
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:24.639
that country must be respected. It' s obvious, but good.

679
00:54:24.760 --> 00:54:30.320
The Ambassador of Mexico had to pay
the fine of about 300 people to be

680
00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:35.360
released and told to look. They
don' t understand our traditions and it

681
00:54:35.440 --> 00:54:38.280
' s offensive for them to wear
death masks. Don' t put them

682
00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:43.800
on and have fun, but see
what the cultural shock is. How they

683
00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:45.320
don' t understand us. And
when this film is released, they begin

684
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:51.360
to understand us in various parts of
the world and begin to understand what is

685
00:54:51.440 --> 00:54:54.800
the celebration of the dead from the
night of the first to the second of

686
00:54:54.800 --> 00:55:00.280
November. Besides that we had a
parade that made James Bond famous, yes,

687
00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:04.360
in a movie there is a parade
of pure deaths that crosses the street

688
00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:07.760
of Tacuba, there in the center
of the city and that already stayed as

689
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:10.159
a parade in Mexico City. Every
year I already know in the parade,

690
00:55:10.679 --> 00:55:15.760
but it came up with James Bone
really there it came up well, it

691
00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:20.400
served us. Yeah, yeah,
it worked for us. But at the

692
00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:25.079
same time, the sad thing,
folks, is that maybe I' m

693
00:55:25.079 --> 00:55:29.760
too late. I' m gonna
take good care of my expression. I

694
00:55:29.880 --> 00:55:34.920
don' t want to offend anyone
or make anyone feel bad, but speaking

695
00:55:35.039 --> 00:55:40.800
of Mexico City, we see with
sadness that our altars of the dead,

696
00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:46.760
our tradition of waiting for our faithful
deceased on the night of the first two,

697
00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:52.079
is being lost there in Mexico City. Right now is the halloween that

698
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:57.159
is celebrated here and that has a
very different origin and from which I respect

699
00:55:57.239 --> 00:55:59.840
why? Because I' m in
this country. They tell the earth what

700
00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:05.519
you go to. I respect the
halloween here. They are their traditions,

701
00:56:06.360 --> 00:56:12.880
but it pains me to see my
Mexico with fictional heroes and to see monsters,

702
00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:19.880
etc in the streets, when we
waited for our faithful deceased and prepared

703
00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:23.360
them from what we talked about right
now, prepared them their food, which

704
00:56:23.360 --> 00:56:28.679
they do not take away, but
they take away the essence, and we

705
00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:32.960
make chopped paper, which is also
handcrafted, and decorate our altars and fill

706
00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:37.519
them with z flowers in Pasuchi so
that they go guiding and reach that altar

707
00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:39.519
once a year. We' re
waiting for you. Right now, not

708
00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:45.400
right now. We see in the
streets, because the monsters of cinema come

709
00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:50.440
out, which is ale dracula that
comes out Darth Vader, who come out.

710
00:56:50.760 --> 00:56:53.960
That' s what we see on
the streets. Recently we were invited

711
00:56:54.000 --> 00:57:00.480
to give a lecture to a village
which our soups that there still had tradition.

712
00:57:02.440 --> 00:57:07.000
In fact, they see the question
of Halloween as a cultural penetration.

713
00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:10.519
And it' s all about the
day of the dead. I mean,

714
00:57:10.599 --> 00:57:15.159
look, not everything is lost,
not bad, folks, not bad.

715
00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:22.239
You who live here have to take
those customs or those traditions. But I

716
00:57:22.320 --> 00:57:23.199
' m going to say something like
that. I can' t say men,

717
00:57:24.239 --> 00:57:28.079
because unfortunately, he' s a
relative of mine. How sad that

718
00:57:28.199 --> 00:57:31.880
a relative of mine from over my
town, from my land, suddenly warns

719
00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:37.519
us to come to dinner, because
he' s the Turkidey and we'

720
00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:42.280
re all going to dinner I said
wait for me, wait for me.

721
00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:46.719
We' re in Michoacán, in
a small town in Michoacán. Don'

722
00:57:46.840 --> 00:57:52.360
t tell me we' re celebrating
Turkiu dey has nothing to do with us.

723
00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:55.599
Nothing, nothing, my respects to
those first settlers who arrived and appeared

724
00:57:55.639 --> 00:58:01.199
a baslot and ate it. My
respects. Yeah, go ahead, it

725
00:58:01.199 --> 00:58:04.760
' s your tradition. But there, in Michoacán, in a small town,

726
00:58:04.800 --> 00:58:07.760
I' m eating turkey, because
it' s the prkday. See

727
00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:12.400
how we' ve been losing.
But there I don' t blame,

728
00:58:12.960 --> 00:58:20.239
I don' t blame, but
I say that they feel that this culture

729
00:58:21.039 --> 00:58:24.880
is superior and if the Americans do
it, the gueros, then it means

730
00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:28.559
it' s good, because they
do it, because we dark- haired

731
00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:31.960
little ones. We' re downstairs
and that' s where we start to

732
00:58:32.079 --> 00:58:36.679
feel bad and where we take all
the stereotypes. Yeah, and I'

733
00:58:36.840 --> 00:58:37.320
m telling you, I don'
t want to be xenophobic. No,

734
00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:43.760
it doesn' t make them racist. But we, sometimes accusing someone of

735
00:58:43.800 --> 00:58:51.199
racism, are perhaps more racist ourselves
from the moment we devalue ourselves. I

736
00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:53.320
don' t need to value someone
else. I devalue myself because I see

737
00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:58.800
the mirror, I look prietus face
there and I myself am devalued. I

738
00:58:58.840 --> 00:59:02.480
' m applying that racism to myself. Maybe from there we have the problem.

739
00:59:02.960 --> 00:59:07.840
So how good this movie is,
how bad it' s coming too

740
00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:10.119
late because I' m telling you
right now, it' s Halloween.

741
00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:15.159
This one. We, with the
graduate, are part of a theater company

742
00:59:15.239 --> 00:59:20.920
there in Mexico City and we leave
very close to the city but already to

743
00:59:21.039 --> 00:59:25.639
province and above all, every year
we present pastorela. Every year we make

744
00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:32.320
a different shepherdela and we explain what
our traditions are. How many of you,

745
00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:37.880
if you didn' t live it, ask your parents and surely lived

746
00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:42.199
it. What' s our tradition. Yes, the Christmas tree and at

747
00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:46.960
the foot of the Christmas tree,
the birth, the piñatas, the collation,

748
00:59:49.159 --> 00:59:54.039
the doing, the inn request.
That' s our tradition. Right

749
00:59:54.039 --> 00:59:58.440
now, folks, we' re
losing her. Right now, there'

750
00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:01.440
s a Mr Fat Red and White. He' s the one who comes

751
01:00:01.559 --> 01:00:07.039
to visit our children. Now of
these three lord kings, for they no

752
01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:12.119
longer remember and I tell them the
lord of Red and White arrives and we

753
01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:16.920
are losing him. We' re
losing identity, we' re losing traditions,

754
01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:21.199
culture. This comes from far back, since the arrival of the evangelizers

755
01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:28.039
in Mexico came these customs. Where
the birth of St Francis of Assisi comes

756
01:00:28.079 --> 01:00:31.079
from. From there he is a
thousand years old, a thousand years old.

757
01:00:32.599 --> 01:00:37.400
Well, we' ve already lost
him, right now, we'

758
01:00:37.920 --> 01:00:42.960
re waiting for Mr East with his
kingdoms and we' re waiting for him,

759
01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:44.519
seeing him in heaven, etcetera,
etcetera. It' s changed everything.

760
01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:50.119
From there we' re having serious
problems. Well, almost to conclude,

761
01:00:50.599 --> 01:00:52.559
friends for being comments. I'
m going to ask them so,

762
01:00:52.920 --> 01:00:58.840
fast, don' t be kidding
people or something, what' s their

763
01:00:58.920 --> 01:01:00.719
date of birth. Don' t
tell me the or anything else. Ten

764
01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:06.880
months, 17 December, December,
5 December, 26 October, 18 December.

765
01:01:08.159 --> 01:01:13.559
So I can go with each of
you asking you your date of birth

766
01:01:13.679 --> 01:01:16.360
my February twelve, our date of
birth. We don' t forget.

767
01:01:16.719 --> 01:01:22.840
What do you think friends we'
ve forgotten recently that our seed friends got

768
01:01:23.320 --> 01:01:29.920
us here in September, but they
invited us to Kentucky and we went to

769
01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:32.000
Kentucky and we went back to Arizona. We gave a lecture. Already many

770
01:01:32.119 --> 01:01:37.599
people of Mexican origin, of origin
not that the jam was born already were

771
01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:42.559
born here, but they are of
Mexican origin. You do not know your

772
01:01:42.679 --> 01:01:47.400
date of birth as a nation,
just as you know your date of birth

773
01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:53.880
and think we were born on May
5. Imagine forgetting until our date of

774
01:01:54.039 --> 01:02:00.599
birth. Five May is an important
date, yes, in our history it

775
01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:06.639
is a very important date. A
very important battle is won over by the

776
01:02:06.719 --> 01:02:10.800
French in Puebla, but it is
not the date of our independence. We

777
01:02:10.920 --> 01:02:15.360
want to do a Mexican day.
Let' s make it clear, and

778
01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:20.199
it can be November 20th and other
dates characteristic of Mexico. But many people

779
01:02:20.400 --> 01:02:25.679
mistakenly think that May 5 is the
date of Mexico' s independence. Nothing

780
01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:30.320
to see, nothing, nothing to
see. Our date of beginning independence is

781
01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:36.960
September 16th, and that is when
the night of the 15th is done,

782
01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:43.920
because our independence arises in the early
morning of the 16th. Then to celebrate,

783
01:02:44.119 --> 01:02:47.119
it was said that it would be
hours earlier it was about eleven o

784
01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:52.480
' clock on the night of the
fifteenth, but our independence began on the

785
01:02:52.559 --> 01:02:57.360
sixteenth of September. Even this we
have forgotten. Even this we have forgotten.

786
01:02:57.719 --> 01:02:59.960
That' s why we' re
asking you who' s beamed your

787
01:02:59.960 --> 01:03:04.159
birth date. We do not forget, for we are forgetting the date of

788
01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:08.880
birth of our nation. We don' t remember. See how other peoples

789
01:03:09.000 --> 01:03:15.159
are not told to the United States
has very much in mind all their events

790
01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:20.079
of their dates and we know what
it is here on July 4th and everyone

791
01:03:20.199 --> 01:03:25.079
has celebrated then touched I have seen
I insist people, but they said little

792
01:03:25.159 --> 01:03:30.239
by little is the date of independence, which is not May 5th is not

793
01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:34.440
a very important date, like November
20th, but it is not our independence.

794
01:03:35.320 --> 01:03:37.360
Oh, so I, every year, jos the brains five of May

795
01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:43.360
see how we' ve been losing
all this. So I want to abuse

796
01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:47.880
a little bit of the refadores,
go back to the first slide, the

797
01:03:49.000 --> 01:03:50.000
first one, because that' s
what we' re going to close with.

798
01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:55.239
I told them yes, and now
we understand this more with what we

799
01:03:55.360 --> 01:04:00.599
started to liquidate nations. The first
thing that is done is qu tarles the

800
01:04:00.599 --> 01:04:08.199
memory, you destroy your books,
your culture, your history, and then

801
01:04:08.239 --> 01:04:12.760
you come to someone and write them
to other books, give them another culture

802
01:04:12.840 --> 01:04:17.679
and invent another history. Then the
nation, generation after generation, slowly begins

803
01:04:17.760 --> 01:04:23.760
to forget what it is and what
it has been, and the surrounding world

804
01:04:24.400 --> 01:04:29.559
forgets it even much earlier. We
already understand more what Honey Pundera tells us,

805
01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:32.199
how it is that they destroy us
as a nation. Yeah, the

806
01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:38.320
worst part is that we' re
allowing it. We are losing all that

807
01:04:38.400 --> 01:04:43.119
wealth. We move on to the
image of the map, all that wealth

808
01:04:43.239 --> 01:04:45.599
to that is from all of us. We were born here, but we

809
01:04:45.719 --> 01:04:50.199
' re from Mexican parents. All
this wealth of us and so of Rica

810
01:04:50.280 --> 01:04:55.599
in our silver and, as we
mentioned, our food, our tuna.

811
01:04:56.239 --> 01:05:00.559
So it is from Rica in our
culture, our archaeological zones, our dances.

812
01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:06.320
But they are being appropriated by other
people who are profiting and that I,

813
01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:11.719
as I see they are the ones
who profit because they have a trademark.

814
01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:15.679
Then I adopt it. Yes,
and I' m not going away

815
01:05:15.800 --> 01:05:23.519
with what really belongs to me I
mean, it belongs to everything my craftsmen

816
01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:29.599
do, it belongs to me all
those archaeological areas, it belongs to me

817
01:05:29.599 --> 01:05:30.840
all that food, it belongs to
me. Yes, it' s my

818
01:05:30.840 --> 01:05:34.239
ancestors'. They did it,
they created it, and they inherited it

819
01:05:34.239 --> 01:05:40.119
from me. And even if you
are removed from our land, you live

820
01:05:40.239 --> 01:05:44.599
here for x or I motive,
but it is the inheritance of all of

821
01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:48.159
you, that is your inheritance,
yes, and you have the right to

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fight for it. And we also
have the right to demand that other people

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who are throwing away their inheritance protect
it, take care of it for what.

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Because this gives us the identity and
I close with this phrase that I

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then use a lot in conferences.
No one can love what he doesn'

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t know. How can we say
that we love Mexico if we do not

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know it, then we will know
Mexico for our part. That' s

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it. Thank you very much.
Look at how several people are connected We

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get a fatima message. It tells
us little basket of Mexican tales. That

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same idea continues to prevail until today
with our crafts. I build wool rugs

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and foreigners and new designers want to
buy at low prices and enrich themselves with

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our work. Greetings from Oaxaca.