El Mokele Mbembe un dinosaurio vivo || Relatos del lado oscuro (Podcast)

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This African region is now known as
the Congo. Brazaville was formerly the People

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' s Republic of the Congo.
Previously it was Republic of Congo, et

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cetera, et cetera. It'
s a place. The central part of

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Africa borders the Democratic Republic of the
Congo, with which it is divided only

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by a river. The Congo River
also with Gabon and is a particularly interesting

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area when it comes to cryptozoology,
because in one of the regions, about

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five hundred kilometers from the capital,
Brasseville, the legend of the Mokelle en

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Baby Le Sound stay with me,
stories of the dark side, strange beings,

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inexplicable events, truthfulness, family,
stories that other minds prefer to ignore.

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Congo is a strange place, strange
to Westerners. Of course strange in

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many ways, because it is a
region that was dominated by both French and

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Belgians, which was subjected to a
process of Christianization that caused a tremendous cultural

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shock, which was also a territory
pauperized in a thousand different ways that currently

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faces problems due to the exploitation of
minerals used for high technology, etcetera,

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etcetera. They are regions of extreme
poverty, regions in which even Google does

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not arrive. That' s how
I put it. An aerial photograph of

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virtually any population of Mexico can be
converted to the street view view, that

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is, down and see photographs of
the streets, of the houses, of

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the interesting areas in the Congo.
It' s not like that. Satellite

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photography rarely displays one or two streets. The rest is so dangerous that it

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is very difficult to be there,
and much more so when it comes to

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foreigners who at some point can represent
from money for a ransom to clear some

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adversary, because of the religious ideological
question that for years has been a huge

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conflict. About 500 kilometers from the
capital of Brazaville is a region known as

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Licoala Aux Herbs. It is also
known as the Congo Basin. Densely populated

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by vegetation of the most varied.
It is an area that is very close

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to Ecuador. It' s incredibly
hot, incredibly rainy and very swampy.

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This entire region of Licohuala is populated
by numerous rivers, streams and lakes.

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Some of these have recently been discovered
with the advent of satellite technology, because

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during cartography processes throughout the 19th and
20th century it was impossible to reach some

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regions. The complexity of getting to
certain points in this territory remains so much

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today that in many places the only
way to get there is by means of

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a helicopter that literally drops it to
one on the spot. It can also

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be reached through rivers, but these
are susceptible to all kinds of problems,

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since the low rain or dry season, as they call it there, which

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is actually less precipitation. The tributaries
go down and then you can' t

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sail. But still. There are
certain streams in which, except perhaps with

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a small canoe, it is very
difficult to navigate throughout this region. Since

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the arrival of the first missionaries and
the first European colonizers, there has been

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talk of the presence of strange creatures
of great size. One of the first

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stories presented is that of Abbot Libain
Bonaventure Proyart, a French missionary sent to

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central Africa and who began to hear
from native stories about gigantic monsters. Note

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that for the year this man arrives
in Africa, in a thousand on seven

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hundred and seventy- six, there
was not even the slightest notion that the

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great aurians, the great animals of
the Cretaceous and previous periods, might have

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existed in the past. There just
wasn' t that idea. The only

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conception that might have arisen was perhaps
that of some kind of dragon or something

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of that style, but there was
actually no conception of that. Therefore,

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when the good friend Libaine hears about
those monsters, he asks to be taken

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where they are, this man was
in a region in the central part close

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to the current Congo, the region
of Loango Cacunga and several areas in Central

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Africa. So, when taken to
this swampy area with numerous trees everywhere,

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incredibly enclosed vegetation, he encounters a
series of large deep footprints of about ninety

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centimeters long in unusual shapes, with
what he interprets as three fingers that seem

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to come in his own words.
Must be a monster. The footprints and

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claws that are seen on the earth
and that have formed an impression that almost

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reaches ninety centimetres in diameter and that
submerge in the ground, give no idea

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of anything but a monster. The
separation between one print and another is two

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four meters. This is what Abbot
Libain Bonaventure described, when in a thousand

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seven hundred and seventy- six he
became aware of this. The region at

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that time was inhabited by numerous ethnic
groups, local ethnicities, people from the

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Boga ethnic group, from the Pygmy
ethnic group, now known as Pygmies,

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the smallest people in the world,
but who lived in these regions the Kana,

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who were different ethnic groups living in
the region and who somehow knew the

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history. The word" mockele"
in Bembbe is very recent. The term

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used in local languages was in eula
Natuka, which meant something like the canteen

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of Palmas, since, to say
the natives with whom he had contact to

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that group of the first Europeans.
Those people narrated that this creature and natuka

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eula came out of the water.
It was a little closer to the banks

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or areas where there was some kind
of plant and ate from these plants.

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The plant to which they referred is
a type of vegetation similar to an apple

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that grows in the riparian vegetation.
On the banks of these streams and very

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particularly in a certain area of licon
oala. The creature was not described precisely

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by the Abbot and was simply left
there in the account he presented, which

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was the kingdoms of Africa in those
years towards the end of the eighteenth century.

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During the 19th century, however,
the explorations to this region were minimal

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and were minimal because of the complexness
of the place these areas, in addition

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to having such intricate vegetation that it
is impossible to walk, has a second

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problem and is that in many of
the areas of the Lycohuala aux Herbs region,

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the terrain is really false. These
are swamps, cienegas, streams,

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small lakes, and this type of
land becomes a death trap, because,

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among other things, there are from
vipers, boas, all kinds of insects,

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swarms, bees, killers, large, particularly aggressive numbers of ants and

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many mosquitoes everywhere and obviously diseases.
The region, on the other hand,

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also has problems that for centuries have
been present inter- ethnic conflicts that,

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according to Europeans, tried to reach
these places, faced real social problems.

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Some ethnic groups turned out to be
friendly, the case of the Pygmies turned

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out to be particularly friendly, but
other ethnic groups in the region did not

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turn out to be friendly and tried
to keep their kingdoms protected. So it

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would not be until about a thousand
nine hundred, when the exploration of these

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regions would begin again and, by
chance, the story of a giant sheath

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eater would emerge again. It should
be noted that the people of these localities,

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when confronted with the first European colonizers, those soldiers, those explorers and

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all these people, describe a creature
who, while not eating men, was

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described as such, does not eat
men, obviously not women. But the

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idea is that it does not devour
humans, but only vegetables, riparian vegetation.

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But there is a problem if you
feel in danger, attack and,

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to say the same, the natives
of this region. A collet of this

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beast was enough to wipe out a
canoe or some kind of boat and destroy

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it completely. His weapon was mainly
hitting. It is curious to note that,

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during the stay of Captain Fraiger von
Stein, his Lausnips, a captain

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of the German army who entered those
territories in nineteen hundred and thirteen. The

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information that got it was the same. Of course the good friend Fraiger Vonstein

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wasn' t going to look for
monsters. He was a cartographer, he

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was an explorer of many things,
but above all, what this guy wanted

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was to find routes for navigation within
African territory. It is nine hundred and

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thirteen, there were already very strong
war winds about World War I and it

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was known that these territories were Belgian
and French and there would also be English

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territories. So the interest of the
German government, the Kaiser, was to

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discover new waterways. But fon Stein
what he encounters is again has people describing

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him monsters that inhabit the lake regions
and that are enormous for this time already

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known the existence of fossil remains,
had already been interpreted as the existence of

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great animals that had lived long ago, but as such there were not yet

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precise diagrams, There was not a
concise idea of what his appearance would have

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been like, etcetera. Fonstaine,
however, does find something. Find a

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kind of sidewalk that leads to a
kind of small lagoon in the area of

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the rivers and Calemba. And this
little sidewalk is especially unusual, to say,

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from the fonstein himself because the ground
had literally been stooped off what it

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would have walked. It was incredibly
heavy out there. But also, Fonsteine

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had the opportunity to observe a fresh
print, tried to photograph it and who

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claims that the photograph was taken and
was valid. The reality is that we

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have not found any text the photograph
of fonstein but the interesting thing about the

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subject is that this man described more
or less the same animal that during the

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following years would be interpreted by the
natives. Fonsteine was among the certain regions

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of the Sanga Ubangi, in two, where everyone agreed to point out that

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it was doing the Likouala region,
which is now known as the Likoala aux

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Herbs region. There were these creatures. They did not refer to one,

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but there were these creatures each with
a different name, nor Mala, for

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example, called him in certain regions. In other regions it was known as

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the Emula Anatuka. The word"
mokele" finally appeared in Bebe. Mockelen

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Bene is said in the language of
the Lingala, the official language of the

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former People' s Republic of Congo
is the Lingala, a strange mixture that

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includes many French terms, which includes
a grammatical and linguistic structure of French,

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but with certain particular touches. And
that' s when he' s named

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mokelen bembe the one who blocks the
rivers. The reality is that the term

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as such was coined very deep into
the 20th century. The original terms did

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not refer to that, because,
in reality, the natives of these regions

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of Licohuala did not believe that it
covered the rivers, but they kept certain

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reserves. As the years go by. In the 1930’ s, new

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stories begin to emerge that are coming
to some fearless explorers. In this case,

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one of them was The Sanderson,
the famous American explorer, who listens

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through a series of missionaries who had
been in the Congo region. Listen to

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me talk about this monster they call
a mockele in Bebe. Keep in mind

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that Sanderson had made a career investigating
anything that seemed strange. He was a

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cryptozoologist, he was a mystery researcher. He was a man very interested in

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all these subjects, so he begins
to gather information and, in fact,

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is one of the first to travel
there to look for him. The same

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sure had the opportunity to see in
one of the small lakes one of these

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creatures, moving according to the description
given at that time. The creature was

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the size of a large elephant or
a little further. The color was of

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a brown grey hue with a very
long neck, slender agile, able to

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move in many directions. The head
similar to that of a snake, a

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powerful tail and four legs more or
less low. What they had described to

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all light was some sort of ancient
saurium of the great animals that populated the

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earth and that had supposedly been extinct
sixty million years ago. This was a

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huge surprise, but, unfortunately,
for iván Te Sanderson himself, the permanence

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in these regions was very complex.
Being able to continue there, taking photographs

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or investigating a little more was not
only dangerous, but practically impossible. Go

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further into these territories. It was
a real challenge. It would be a

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long time during which the only thing
that came was rumors people who spoke to

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the missionaries who were in the regions
near Lycoala and who suddenly talked about something

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when they returned to the United States, when they returned to France, told

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some story that came to them from
the natives, either from the Boa,

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the Pygmies or the Etnias, for
example, in Epena, which is the

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city that is toward the northwest,
which suddenly reached some hunter and told how

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one of these giants had shattered a
canoe in such or such a river.

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But many of the stories were approaching
the same place, to a site located

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in the central part of the region
of Licoala, Auxerbs, the lake tele

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Yes another complicated place to get to
is far from everything. The best way

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to get there is by canoes,
if the roads are open, because sometimes

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the vegetation, the trees that are
dragged by the currents obstruct all that.

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But the stories that arrived were not
only at the level of distant legend,

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but at the level of accounts of
experiences. For example, in one of

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the accounts that was presented by one
of the missionaries in the 1950’ s,

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he narrated that between nineteen hundred and
thirty- one thousand and nine hundred

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and forty, a group of villagers
had been able to hunt two specimens of

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mocklembembe. This had been because they
had set traps for fishing. One technique

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in the region is to create small
dams. These small dams accumulate the water

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with the animals, crab fish,
whatever is there and then it desiccates by

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taking out the water and they can
recover by hand. You can' t

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fish with a net because there'
s such a lot of waste in the

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bottom, branches, stones and things
that nets get stuck. Therefore, they

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opt for this technique. Apparently,
in one of these traps they managed to

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capture one specimen and in another region
they would have killed another. The missionaries

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could not specify where or when exactly, but the accounts were very impressive.

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The description in all cases was the
same long neck, tail, powerful,

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legs, short, brown, grayish
and aquatic animal completely. He did not

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attack by biting humans, he beat
the powerful tail. There were some more

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details. For example, the fact
that some pointed to the presence of such

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a tusk was called. They actually
meant a horn on the front. On

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the forehead of the animal there would
be a kind of unique, whitish-

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colored horn. Others of the accounts
pointed to something very peculiar, indicating that

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there would be some kind of plate
spikes on the side of the spine of

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the animal, something there on the
top. This was strange, but at

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the same time it revealed some interesting
details. For a thousand nine hundred and

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fifty- five, the arrival of
new missionaries in this whole region brought with

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it new accounts and new accounts that
in turn were transmitted to some other researchers

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in the seventies. Such is the
restlessness, from all the stories that have

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arisen, that begin to organize expeditions
to go to search for the Mokel in

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ben Be. In the 1970s,
one of the herpetologists of the University of

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Texas decided to travel to Gabon.
Gabon is on the coast. It'

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s a country on the African coast. He stands with the Republic of the

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Congo in Brazaville, and decides to
travel there. Being in these regions as

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beginning to know the local populations,
among which are the Fang who begin to

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describe the existence of the monster.
But this man is a terpetologist by the

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name of James Powell, who passed
away a few years ago. Powell was

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aware of the existence of the Bebe
mokelen in the Ikoala region, but suddenly,

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as he was in Gabon, he
learned that he has also been seen

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or seen elsewhere in what they call
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And when he comes into contact with
Reverend Jiu Jine Thomas, who was

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a missionary American who had been in
the region for a long time, he

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is surprised to see that this man
does not find it incredible. When some

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time later James Powell made contact with
Roy Macal, the naturalist adventurer explorer,

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of course, was also an academic. Macal, in fact, was from

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Chicago univers, was a character,
or was a biology doctor. When they

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get in touch with both, they
decide to make a joint expedition to the

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macall expedition and James Powell would be
one of the most interesting, because he

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was one of the first entirely scientific
expeditions. They were both scientists. One

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was a reptile herpetologist, while Royn
McCall was a biologist who had spent much

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of his time researching zoos. So
it was a tremendous combination. Both organize

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an expedition that would be planned for
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nine. The problem at that time
is that the macall and Powell expedition is

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prejudiced by entry. Prejudiced because in
nineteen hundred and seventy- seven there would

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be a tremendous coup d'état, which would make the former Republic of

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the Congo the Republic of the Congo, the leader of the revolution, to

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be assassinated in one thousand nine hundred
and seventy- seven. There were uprisings

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and the Republic, as it is
declared, is a democratic republic, with

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a very rigid socialist tendency and with
enormous support from the Soviet Union. Therefore,

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the arrival of two Americans faced a
rather serious problem. The expedition of

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macall and Powell was quite limited in
many respects derived from this social conflict.

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However, they had the opportunity to
do something very impressive. Both explorers began

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interviewing people to ask them directly what
they had seen. Accompanied by Jiu Jine

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Thomas, who was, so to
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able to go into the communities asking
questions about the things they had seen and

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took a huge surprise because at a
certain point they decided to show photos.

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Powell, who is a highly prepared
man, carries with him various diagrams in

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a book where American animals come as
bears, as lions of Africa, etc,

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and begins to show him those people
do not react to any of them.

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It' s not familiar to them. When they see a chango,

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a chango, for they know it
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they know it, it' s
familiar to them. But, for

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example, a bear does not arouse
any interest in them. They don'

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t know what it is. When
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they also have no greater interest in
that. But when he shows them

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the image of an extinct animal diplodocus, sixty million years ago, the natives

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begin to point it out as the
mokel in bembe nervously because, moreover,

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according to tradition, the moque in
sale kills him. And it is that,

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according to what these people began to
know in a thousand nine hundred and

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fifty- nine, that is,
twenty years ago, during a hunt,

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they had killed one of these animals
and had eaten it, but the one

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who ate it died. The people
who ate the flesh of that animal had

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died, so a story was woven
about the moquel embezzling in Witch and this

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arose as a myth. Then the
people who saw this get scared and know

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what they' re talking about,
because they point it out immediately. Not

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so, other animals that were shown
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tell me good they can really get
confused. Yes, of course, popular

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imagination can be very great, but
when they showed them a hippopotamus, they

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knew what it was. There isn' t in that place, though.

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Let me explain that in the Lake
Tele region and in the Lycooa region there

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are no native hippos and the rhinos
don' t go there either the soil

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is too soft. So what did
these people describe? I read him expedition.

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He pointed out that the animal would
be about ten meters long, which

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could be very high in the head. It would be snake- like.

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There' s no more in the
description. It was from a reptile as

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such. The skin was slightly soft, but at the same time it was

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very rough, very thick. Several
things were pointed out and that well,

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one thing that caught attention were the
ridges. I can' t lose sight

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of it being a thousand nine hundred
and seventy- nine when the macall and

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Powell expedition occurs. And in that
nineteen hundred and seventy- nine people began

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to describe something that seemed to be
crests similar to what a rooster has on

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his head was described in the spine
of this animal. That' s what

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came up again. What is surprising
is that the existence of the ridges of

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Diplodocus would not be known until a
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after that interview they had. Finally
macal and Powell would have to leave the

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place without being able to bring something
with them. They saw something moving in

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the water, that way. They
saw another little thing, some little one

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out there, but nothing they could
prove Now it is worth noting that during

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these investigations they managed to collect a
huge amount of data about the places where

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this animal most likely existed and it
was logical channels of water, low,

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dense vegetation and new account, the
different reports pointed towards the same region,

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Lake Tele. In a thousand nine
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himself would return to the place.
On this occasion, roy Macall would head

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directly to the Lake Tele area.
Everything was pointing that way, starting from

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the city of Depena, which is
further north- west. He began the

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journey with a series of huge problems, because the journey was blocked by logs.

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The streams in which he tried to
sail were impossible to navigate. Walking

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was a problem using native loaders.
Even so, it was complicated because,

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in addition, as they approached the
region, the different natives who accompanied the

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expedition began to abandon it because of
the fear of the mo that it or

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at least that is what is told. The fact is, with this team

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on the lake, they started working
on you looking for him. It should

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be noted that the roy mcal himself
would see something in one of the streams

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where they were navigating the description of
macals that at a certain point heard a

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splash in front of them and as
they looked up, they could observe a

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very large animal that would dive quickly. The sighting was very brief, but

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produced a wave of about eighteen inches. It was as described, and this

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wave quickly advanced. Almost flipping roy
Mcal' s canoe. This man immediately

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interprets it as a very large animal, but so large he could not be

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a alligator and I repeat that the
region near the lake tele is not a

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territory where there are hippos that could
generate a similar wave the animal. In

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addition, at the moment it is
sinking, they get to see the curved

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shape and the long neck was the
only thing they could get on that occasion.

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However, at the same time,
in a thousand nine hundred and eighty

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- one, another American group of
researchers led by Herman Regusters, were traveling

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to Lake Telle, being a little
more seasoned and supported by technology. This

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man, who worked as an engineer
at the Chorro propulsion laboratory in Pasadena,

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California and belonging to NASA, planned
an expedition to rectify cartographies. They had

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cartographies and they had certain data on
what would be a GPS with LandSat today.

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However, everything did not coincide.
The expedition as such tried to arrive

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by means of a seaplane to Lake
Tele, but surprise, Lake Teleno is

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suitable. For that they had to
land north of there in a small meadow

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and walk for five days in the
middle of the jungle with about twenty loaders

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between pygmies and boas. The fact
is that when they arrived at Lake Tele

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they realize that that is impressive the
life there is in this place. They

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could even find a subspecies of ape
that wasn' t known. Hundreds of

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insects found the equipment, among which
were several Congolese civil servants for one thousand

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nine hundred and eighty- one had
recovered a little stability and had taken with

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them government envoys. One of them
was a biologist, another of them was

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a head of natural control and similar
things, so they were accompanied by several

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officials, carried an escort, etc. They had the corresponding permits. The

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expedition as such was incredibly complicated.
Ninety- five percent of the drugs they

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carried within their endowment were used by
the natives themselves who were often sick upon

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arrival at Lake Tele. They realize
that Lake Tele, as you are seeing

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it right now in the picture,
is not round. The image is incredibly

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misleading because it has a false coastline. The shore is false. It is

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not, but it is populated by
thousands of trees, plants, lush vegetation,

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but it is inside the water.
So the real shore of lake TV

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is very variable. It is a
kind of mangrove where the water, just

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fifteen centimeters from the surface, is
so saturated with particles that it becomes dark

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to the bottom. It' s
impossible to see what' s in there.

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It' s hard to meet him. In some parts the lake can

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be up to ten meters deep,
in others it is barely one two meters.

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There are numerous heads that form among
the vegetation that generate this species of

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small caves of vegetation, a kind
of roots that unite with each other in

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a virtually impossible network. The expedition
also faced a number of tremendous problems,

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such as environmental humidity. By staying
in these regions for a long time,

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from the cameras, the recording equipment
presented faults and faults due to the degree

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of humidity. The films, the
photographic films ruined the temperature above forty degrees

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environmental humiditys permanently beyond ninety- five
percent, a brutal thing. The clothes

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quickly deteriorated, the shoes quickly deteriorated
the food. Of course, my what

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to say, the natives of the
region, who went practically with a loincloth,

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could bear the best, because the
Americans, accustomed to a totally different

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climate, the situation was very complex. But in addition to this, the

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expedition as such was amazingly beneficial.
Thousands of known species, unknown insects,

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could be recovered. All that and
there was a meeting at a certain point.

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Herman Reguster' s wife, Kia, who accompanies the expedition, is

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on an inflatable raft on one of
the shores of the lake tele when suddenly

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about 30 meters from it today in
a splash and the head of the mokel

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comes out in Bebe. The person
who accompanied her, who was a local

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person, is horribly frightened and begins
to yell at her the muquel en bembe

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the animal that, realizing that they
are there, looks at them, looks

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at them and sinks. In a
matter of seconds it sinks. What Kia,

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Herman Regu' s wife, described
is that the animal was a very

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long neck that stood out from the
water for at least two meters. The

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head, though shaped like a serpent, the appearance of a serpent' s

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head was not such, because it
was not linear with the neck, but

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lay down. It was described as
the color was the same, the oily

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appearance of the skin, et cetera. This woman described it completely, but

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she could not take a picture because
at the time she turned around to look

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for a camera to take it,
there was no such animal. He had

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escaped. The expedition would also recover, in addition to many testimonies, more

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would recover several encounters, because as
they were sailing in the different fingers of

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the lake that are formed that can
be seen now in the photo, they

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could observe how the animal to which
he plunged himself as if there were several,

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but do not lose sight that this
is our territory of hippopotamuses. There

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are no hippos here. It was
discovered that there was even a variant of

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so very unusual, that there were
other variants of unknown insects, millions of

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bees, insects and so on.
The fact is, they couldn' t

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have clear evidence. One of the
Congolese biologists who was with them or with

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choleños, who is Marceline Agnaña.
This biologist would also be able to retrieve

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some other data, but there was
no solid evidence Some time later. Aquiña

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himself would return there in a thousand
nine hundred and eighty- three and this

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man would be within walking distance of
the animal. According to his testimony and

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a description he made during the presentation
of a report he was about twenty meters

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away from the animal and could see
it for at least several minutes as he

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moved close to the shore devouring plants. In his description, that was very

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similar to what Roy Macal and Powell
had written as a diplodocus, but it

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wasn' t that big. It
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the marceline A Nana himself would have
managed to photograph one of the only

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clear and precise photographs of a footprint
of a moque enmbe, which is this

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one that I am showing you right
now, a footprint in which you see

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a slit of about ten centimeters deep
of a leg, with the shape similar

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to the leg of a rhinoceros with
three fingers or three claws, as you

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want to see, with three bumps, that would be conspicuous if it were

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not, because in the place it
is also not reindeer to be before in

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this specific area of Lake Tele they
cannot enter. There' s no way

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they' re coming. There,
the vegetation is so dense that they couldn

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' t move. They do not
belong to this region, because, therefore,

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that was ruled out. However,
there was no recording. The recording

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that Marceline tried to take to Gnana
would be a disaster for ns and at

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the time of beginning to record with
an eight- millimeter camera his own cachucha,

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his own cap, unduly obstructed the
lens. So it didn' t

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do any good. Casually, it
didn' t help. Marceline' s

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expedition would be very conspicuous for some
zoologists. It really wasn' t very

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convincing, especially because this man was
trying to justify a little bit of going

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there. During the following years there
have been another series of expeditions, even

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in the year two thousand and seven
a Japanese expedition that obtained even more dubious

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photographs, etcetera. Why, then, if there have been so many expeditions,

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nothing has been found. Perhaps one
of the clearest explanations is that of

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William Gibbons. Gibbons was there in
the nineties and at the early two thousand

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point number one. Regions are incredibly
difficult to access. There are all the

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places where something can be hidden.
The area of the go tele is incredibly

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complex in terms of vegetation, in
terms of the formation of these cavities inside

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the water, which make it impossible
to see if there is anything swimming down

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there. It' s not going
to be seen on the surface. Secondly,

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the expeditions could have been for very
limited and very limited times because the

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Government itself, the political situation itself
makes it very difficult to be in those

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regions. Even more complex is the
condition of the communities themselves. Some of

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them turn out to be friendly while
others can be very dangerous. It is

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a region that has also been plagued
for years by endemic problems, corruption,

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violence and now the exploitation of mineral
deposits that are in the hands of real

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mafias. So the existence of this
animal is very difficult to verify. As

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to whether there are any remains out
there, do not lose sight of the

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fact that in these equatorial regions of
Africa a dead animal disappears in a matter

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of minutes. So simple And it
is also in the vicinity of a lake

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that has a natural fluctuation of up
to ten meters depending on the season,

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that is, that it can advance
or go back depending on the rainy season.

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Obviously, what dies on the shore
the following year is gone and its

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remains can be sunk in several meters
of mud. Normally during seasonal changes,

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when periods of rain come more intense
and less intense, streams provide an incredible

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amount of sediment, which makes whatever
is there stay there. It is one

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of those mysteries that will be very
difficult to prove now You will tell me.

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We are in the midst of satellites, Google and amazing things. How

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come no one' s seen anything. Well, if you consider that at

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15 centimeters deep there is total darkness, whatever is swimming out there is not

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going to be seen. But the
other question comes. What could this animal

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do? What is clear is that
it is not a diplodocus. That'

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s very obvious. However, one
of the interesting things that have been pointed

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out in recent years, from the
descriptions and from the most recent archaeological findings,

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one of the possibilities is that it
was an antarctosaur. Anttartosaurus was discovered

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relatively recently and there is an interesting
fact. This fact is that the antarctosaur

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has been discovered in periods after the
cretaceous, which means that it was an

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animal that was not extinct with all
the others, but was present for several

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million years. More. It has
been found in regions of South America and

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Central Africa, which makes some researchers
think that this zoo would be and the

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animal. Its appearance is very similar
to that of a diplodocus, but it

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is much smaller. It is also
believed that it had dorsal ridges to control

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its temperature, which coincides with the
description made in the seventies by the natives

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of the region, who claimed that
this was the appearance of the bug a

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large animal, but not too large. That is, it fits perfectly the

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theory of the survival of a fit
animal in a suitable environment do not lose

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sight of any other detail. The
Licoala region as a whole among the countries

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that make up it represents about eight
hundred zero square miles, equivalent to the

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whole Alaska, in a single place
that has a very low population. It

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' s not accurate, there'
s no way to know exactly. But

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if you take into account that the
entire Congo has five million six hundred zero

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inhabitants, more or less, and
that this region is the remote and lonely

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region, the population density is minimal, it is possible that it is there.

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Yeah, maybe it' s just
one animal. No. The descriptions

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made by the natives range from the
territories of Gabon to well into the territory

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in Central Africa, Zambia and other
countries of the region, which gives us

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an idea of a population of animals, which is perfectly justified that they could

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exist and remain there as territorial animals, aquatic and to the full extent of

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evils. This region is saturated with
small creeks, small lakes, small ponds

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that did not even appear on the
maps, but that have the proper conditions

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the fauna, the vegetation to sustain
the life of one of these great animals.

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Without many problems for some zoologists cryptos. If we want to believe in

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the existence of some great surviving Saurio
of those periods, this would be the

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place and this would be the perfect
lake for such an effect, the lake

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tele in the middle of Liquala in
Congo. We have to wait longer.

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Yes, of course, for some
unbelievers of these subjects fifty zero articles have

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been published that claim that everything is
a myth that is actually not a dinosaur,

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but a hippopotamus. Well, the
different naturalists who have participated have insisted

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that this is not a hippopotamus region. So what is an antarctosaur? Maybe

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I don' t know, but
within all the evidence there is, a

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few reveal, for example, the
sound. On the Gibbons expedition, he

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had the opportunity to hear a sound
that did not correspond to any of the

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animals in the region and that the
natives assured was the mokel in Benbe.

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In the particular case of German Rugesters
and Qua to his wife, the recordings

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they obtained at the site could not
be fully analyzed for several reasons, the

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first of them because there was a
brutal saturation of environmental sounds, but the

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sound they described was a kind of
deep gurgle that was heard far away,

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which revealed that this animal was very
large, with a huge resonance box,

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which corresponds to a long neck.
The sound was growing until it ended up

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in some kind of loud scream.
The sound was recorded. There are recordings

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that are in the United States,
but they could not be fully identified.

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It' s interesting, but during
Herman Regusters' research, before his death,

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he managed to identify at least forty
sounds in the recordings, chicharras,

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insectos, micos, birds, nocturnals, etcetera, etcetera, except that of

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the mockel in Bembe what you think
and, if I may, what do

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you think. If we send some
very affectionate greetings. We want to send

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a greeting to Antonio Almaran who is
in Mexico City, Joseph Abath and his

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father Carmelo. They met us when
we were at the Doll, particularly in

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the play there in the auditorium of
Radio Son station in Alto Tonga and precisely

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where we presented the Machete story recently. We' re very happy to know.

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Thank you for this story and for
the fact that you have been with

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us for so long. There was
a ship that is in Argentina, Betsy

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and Medina, that accompanies us from
Venezuela, Victoria Medina and her husband,

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Alfonso Martínez, who are going to
have a baby, a baby girl.

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Congratulations to Mila Sánchez, who gets
up early with us from Spain and really

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gets up early because they arrive at
four or thirty in the chat four thirty

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in the morning. Thanks for that
company. We appreciate it very much.

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And for bib Roth, our friend
I saw Brot, who' s always

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been with us. For Raúl Altuna, Raúl altuna greets his love, Emma

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Celeste Pérez in Argentina. Raúl is
a guy who has also been with us

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for a long time. Leo and
Gerardo, who are in Maryland, in

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the United States, for Barbara Euridice
Blas Romero, who is in Cuernavaca,

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in Mexico, in the city of
Eternal Spring, a city with a magnificent

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climate, for Jufred Rosillo, who
is in Belgium, for Cecilia Rauda and

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her daughter Georgina, and who are
in El Salvador. A hug to the

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Savior César Dominguez, greets his children, Gabriel and Bania, a man who

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is pleased to be with us together. For Liliana Calixto, who is in

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Bogotá, Colombia, Tierra de café, very good Angel Urbina while working on

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the night shift, He likes to
listen to us. He works in a

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convenience store in Ciudad Juárez, in
Chihuahua, Mexico, Territory with Mancha,

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truly full of stories, tremendous care
for the Guerrero family that is in grajas

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of San Isidro, in Puebla,
in the city in the central part of

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Mexico. Many thanks to them have
been with us for years. We sent

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them a hug. Thank you for
joining us today on this new platform.

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For Sulma Patricia Vaquero Aguilar in Colombia, for Diana or Campo who is in

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Honduras, for Angela, who is
in valparaíso yoa who listens to us on

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leaving work. Thank you very much
Elian Burgos, who is in Uruguay,

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Saúl López and his wife, Fabiola, Araceli Sánchez, his daughter Carmen,

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his brother- in- law Celsus
and a nephew named Toñito that we recommend

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you go see white flag stories.
And for the Calderón Pérez family. And

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one last thanks will see Arnulfo González, Patrick Rosas, Sara del Carmen Mendoza,

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Karina Gallegos, Jason Sánchez Macías,
the Va Guajardo Vázquez, all of

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them have been supporting the Canal through
donations through a thing called Super Thengs,

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which is something new that is there
in the Channel, which we are not

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very sure how it works. But
they' ve been giving us donations.

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We appreciate it very much. We
value that help. They support us very

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much to support the channel and we
truly appreciate that, that enthusiasm for helping

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us. We thank you very much
that you have accompanied us this evening very

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good night and rest in peace by
teasing the Roman. Come on.