El Mokele Mbembe un dinosaurio vivo || Relatos del lado oscuro (Podcast)

0:00 This African region is now known as the Congo. Brazaville was formerly the People ' s Republic of the Congo. Previously it was Republic of Congo, et cetera, et cetera. It' s a place. The central part of Africa borders the Democratic Republic of the Congo, with which it is divided only by a river. The Congo River also with Gabon and is a particularly interesting area when it comes to cryptozoology, because in one of the regions, about five hundred kilometers from the capital, Brasseville, the legend of the Mokelle en Baby Le Sound stay with me, stories of the dark side, strange beings, inexplicable events, truthfulness, family, stories that other minds prefer to ignore.

1:22 Congo is a strange place, strange to Westerners. Of course strange in many ways, because it is a region that was dominated by both French and Belgians, which was subjected to a process of Christianization that caused a tremendous cultural shock, which was also a territory pauperized in a thousand different ways that currently faces problems due to the exploitation of minerals used for high technology, etcetera, etcetera. They are regions of extreme poverty, regions in which even Google does not arrive. That' s how I put it. An aerial photograph of virtually any population of Mexico can be converted to the street view view, that is, down and see photographs of the streets, of the houses, of the interesting areas in the Congo. It' s not like that. Satellite photography rarely displays one or two streets. The rest is so dangerous that it is very difficult to be there, and much more so when it comes to foreigners who at some point can represent from money for a ransom to clear some adversary, because of the religious ideological question that for years has been a huge conflict. About 500 kilometers from the capital of Brazaville is a region known as

2:53 Licoala Aux Herbs. It is also known as the Congo Basin. Densely populated by vegetation of the most varied. It is an area that is very close to Ecuador. It' s incredibly hot, incredibly rainy and very swampy. This entire region of Licohuala is populated by numerous rivers, streams and lakes. Some of these have recently been discovered with the advent of satellite technology, because during cartography processes throughout the 19th and 20th century it was impossible to reach some regions. The complexity of getting to certain points in this territory remains so much today that in many places the only way to get there is by means of a helicopter that literally drops it to one on the spot. It can also be reached through rivers, but these are susceptible to all kinds of problems, since the low rain or dry season, as they call it there, which is actually less precipitation. The tributaries go down and then you can' t sail. But still. There are certain streams in which, except perhaps with a small canoe, it is very difficult to navigate throughout this region. Since

4:25 the arrival of the first missionaries and the first European colonizers, there has been talk of the presence of strange creatures of great size. One of the first stories presented is that of Abbot Libain Bonaventure Proyart, a French missionary sent to central Africa and who began to hear from native stories about gigantic monsters. Note that for the year this man arrives in Africa, in a thousand on seven hundred and seventy- six, there was not even the slightest notion that the great aurians, the great animals of the Cretaceous and previous periods, might have existed in the past. There just wasn' t that idea. The only conception that might have arisen was perhaps that of some kind of dragon or something of that style, but there was actually no conception of that. Therefore, when the good friend Libaine hears about those monsters, he asks to be taken where they are, this man was in a region in the central part close to the current Congo, the region of Loango Cacunga and several areas in Central Africa. So, when taken to this swampy area with numerous trees everywhere, incredibly enclosed vegetation, he encounters a series of large deep footprints of about ninety centimeters long in unusual shapes, with what he interprets as three fingers that seem

6:00 to come in his own words. Must be a monster. The footprints and claws that are seen on the earth and that have formed an impression that almost reaches ninety centimetres in diameter and that submerge in the ground, give no idea of anything but a monster. The separation between one print and another is two four meters. This is what Abbot Libain Bonaventure described, when in a thousand seven hundred and seventy- six he became aware of this. The region at that time was inhabited by numerous ethnic groups, local ethnicities, people from the Boga ethnic group, from the Pygmy ethnic group, now known as Pygmies, the smallest people in the world, but who lived in these regions the Kana, who were different ethnic groups living in the region and who somehow knew the history. The word" mockele" in Bembbe is very recent. The term used in local languages was in eula Natuka, which meant something like the canteen of Palmas, since, to say the natives with whom he had contact to that group of the first Europeans. Those people narrated that this creature and natuka

7:32 eula came out of the water. It was a little closer to the banks or areas where there was some kind of plant and ate from these plants. The plant to which they referred is a type of vegetation similar to an apple that grows in the riparian vegetation. On the banks of these streams and very particularly in a certain area of licon oala. The creature was not described precisely by the Abbot and was simply left there in the account he presented, which was the kingdoms of Africa in those years towards the end of the eighteenth century.

8:15 During the 19th century, however, the explorations to this region were minimal and were minimal because of the complexness of the place these areas, in addition to having such intricate vegetation that it is impossible to walk, has a second problem and is that in many of the areas of the Lycohuala aux Herbs region, the terrain is really false. These are swamps, cienegas, streams, small lakes, and this type of land becomes a death trap, because, among other things, there are from vipers, boas, all kinds of insects, swarms, bees, killers, large, particularly aggressive numbers of ants and many mosquitoes everywhere and obviously diseases. The region, on the other hand, also has problems that for centuries have been present inter- ethnic conflicts that, according to Europeans, tried to reach these places, faced real social problems.

9:18 Some ethnic groups turned out to be friendly, the case of the Pygmies turned out to be particularly friendly, but other ethnic groups in the region did not turn out to be friendly and tried to keep their kingdoms protected. So it would not be until about a thousand nine hundred, when the exploration of these regions would begin again and, by chance, the story of a giant sheath eater would emerge again. It should be noted that the people of these localities, when confronted with the first European colonizers, those soldiers, those explorers and all these people, describe a creature who, while not eating men, was described as such, does not eat men, obviously not women. But the idea is that it does not devour humans, but only vegetables, riparian vegetation.

10:16 But there is a problem if you feel in danger, attack and, to say the same, the natives of this region. A collet of this beast was enough to wipe out a canoe or some kind of boat and destroy it completely. His weapon was mainly hitting. It is curious to note that, during the stay of Captain Fraiger von Stein, his Lausnips, a captain of the German army who entered those territories in nineteen hundred and thirteen. The information that got it was the same. Of course the good friend Fraiger Vonstein wasn' t going to look for monsters. He was a cartographer, he was an explorer of many things, but above all, what this guy wanted was to find routes for navigation within African territory. It is nine hundred and thirteen, there were already very strong war winds about World War I and it was known that these territories were Belgian and French and there would also be English territories. So the interest of the German government, the Kaiser, was to discover new waterways. But fon Stein what he encounters is again has people describing him monsters that inhabit the lake regions and that are enormous for this time already known the existence of fossil remains, had already been interpreted as the existence of great animals that had lived long ago, but as such there were not yet

11:50 precise diagrams, There was not a concise idea of what his appearance would have been like, etcetera. Fonstaine, however, does find something. Find a kind of sidewalk that leads to a kind of small lagoon in the area of the rivers and Calemba. And this little sidewalk is especially unusual, to say, from the fonstein himself because the ground had literally been stooped off what it would have walked. It was incredibly heavy out there. But also, Fonsteine had the opportunity to observe a fresh print, tried to photograph it and who claims that the photograph was taken and was valid. The reality is that we have not found any text the photograph of fonstein but the interesting thing about the subject is that this man described more or less the same animal that during the following years would be interpreted by the natives. Fonsteine was among the certain regions of the Sanga Ubangi, in two, where everyone agreed to point out that it was doing the Likouala region, which is now known as the Likoala aux Herbs region. There were these creatures. They did not refer to one, but there were these creatures each with a different name, nor Mala, for example, called him in certain regions. In other regions it was known as

13:22 the Emula Anatuka. The word" mokele" finally appeared in Bebe. Mockelen Bene is said in the language of the Lingala, the official language of the former People' s Republic of Congo is the Lingala, a strange mixture that includes many French terms, which includes a grammatical and linguistic structure of French, but with certain particular touches. And that' s when he' s named mokelen bembe the one who blocks the rivers. The reality is that the term as such was coined very deep into the 20th century. The original terms did not refer to that, because, in reality, the natives of these regions of Licohuala did not believe that it covered the rivers, but they kept certain reserves. As the years go by. In the 1930’ s, new stories begin to emerge that are coming to some fearless explorers. In this case, one of them was The Sanderson, the famous American explorer, who listens through a series of missionaries who had been in the Congo region. Listen to me talk about this monster they call a mockele in Bebe. Keep in mind that Sanderson had made a career investigating anything that seemed strange. He was a cryptozoologist, he was a mystery researcher. He was a man very interested in all these subjects, so he begins to gather information and, in fact,

14:54 is one of the first to travel there to look for him. The same sure had the opportunity to see in one of the small lakes one of these creatures, moving according to the description given at that time. The creature was the size of a large elephant or a little further. The color was of a brown grey hue with a very long neck, slender agile, able to move in many directions. The head similar to that of a snake, a powerful tail and four legs more or less low. What they had described to all light was some sort of ancient saurium of the great animals that populated the earth and that had supposedly been extinct sixty million years ago. This was a huge surprise, but, unfortunately, for iván Te Sanderson himself, the permanence in these regions was very complex. Being able to continue there, taking photographs or investigating a little more was not only dangerous, but practically impossible. Go further into these territories. It was a real challenge. It would be a long time during which the only thing that came was rumors people who spoke to the missionaries who were in the regions near Lycoala and who suddenly talked about something when they returned to the United States, when they returned to France, told some story that came to them from the natives, either from the Boa, the Pygmies or the Etnias, for example, in Epena, which is the

16:27 city that is toward the northwest, which suddenly reached some hunter and told how one of these giants had shattered a canoe in such or such a river. But many of the stories were approaching the same place, to a site located in the central part of the region of Licoala, Auxerbs, the lake tele Yes another complicated place to get to is far from everything. The best way to get there is by canoes, if the roads are open, because sometimes the vegetation, the trees that are dragged by the currents obstruct all that.

17:07 But the stories that arrived were not only at the level of distant legend, but at the level of accounts of experiences. For example, in one of the accounts that was presented by one of the missionaries in the 1950’ s, he narrated that between nineteen hundred and thirty- one thousand and nine hundred and forty, a group of villagers had been able to hunt two specimens of mocklembembe. This had been because they had set traps for fishing. One technique in the region is to create small dams. These small dams accumulate the water with the animals, crab fish, whatever is there and then it desiccates by taking out the water and they can recover by hand. You can' t fish with a net because there' s such a lot of waste in the bottom, branches, stones and things that nets get stuck. Therefore, they opt for this technique. Apparently, in one of these traps they managed to capture one specimen and in another region they would have killed another. The missionaries could not specify where or when exactly, but the accounts were very impressive.

18:19 The description in all cases was the same long neck, tail, powerful, legs, short, brown, grayish and aquatic animal completely. He did not attack by biting humans, he beat the powerful tail. There were some more details. For example, the fact that some pointed to the presence of such a tusk was called. They actually meant a horn on the front. On the forehead of the animal there would be a kind of unique, whitish- colored horn. Others of the accounts pointed to something very peculiar, indicating that there would be some kind of plate spikes on the side of the spine of the animal, something there on the top. This was strange, but at the same time it revealed some interesting details. For a thousand nine hundred and fifty- five, the arrival of new missionaries in this whole region brought with it new accounts and new accounts that in turn were transmitted to some other researchers in the seventies. Such is the restlessness, from all the stories that have arisen, that begin to organize expeditions to go to search for the Mokel in ben Be. In the 1970s, one of the herpetologists of the University of Texas decided to travel to Gabon. Gabon is on the coast. It' s a country on the African coast. He stands with the Republic of the

19:55 Congo in Brazaville, and decides to travel there. Being in these regions as beginning to know the local populations, among which are the Fang who begin to describe the existence of the monster. But this man is a terpetologist by the name of James Powell, who passed away a few years ago. Powell was aware of the existence of the Bebe mokelen in the Ikoala region, but suddenly, as he was in Gabon, he learned that he has also been seen or seen elsewhere in what they call Yamala Yamala. It obviously catches your attention. And when he comes into contact with Reverend Jiu Jine Thomas, who was a missionary American who had been in the region for a long time, he is surprised to see that this man does not find it incredible. When some time later James Powell made contact with Roy Macal, the naturalist adventurer explorer, of course, was also an academic. Macal, in fact, was from Chicago univers, was a character, or was a biology doctor. When they get in touch with both, they decide to make a joint expedition to the macall expedition and James Powell would be one of the most interesting, because he was one of the first entirely scientific expeditions. They were both scientists. One was a reptile herpetologist, while Royn McCall was a biologist who had spent much

21:27 of his time researching zoos. So it was a tremendous combination. Both organize an expedition that would be planned for about a thousand nine hundred and seventy- nine. The problem at that time is that the macall and Powell expedition is prejudiced by entry. Prejudiced because in nineteen hundred and seventy- seven there would be a tremendous coup d'état, which would make the former Republic of the Congo the Republic of the Congo, the leader of the revolution, to be assassinated in one thousand nine hundred and seventy- seven. There were uprisings and the Republic, as it is declared, is a democratic republic, with a very rigid socialist tendency and with enormous support from the Soviet Union. Therefore, the arrival of two Americans faced a rather serious problem. The expedition of macall and Powell was quite limited in many respects derived from this social conflict.

22:29 However, they had the opportunity to do something very impressive. Both explorers began interviewing people to ask them directly what they had seen. Accompanied by Jiu Jine Thomas, who was, so to speak, the trusted person, they were able to go into the communities asking questions about the things they had seen and took a huge surprise because at a certain point they decided to show photos. Powell, who is a highly prepared man, carries with him various diagrams in a book where American animals come as bears, as lions of Africa, etc, and begins to show him those people do not react to any of them.

23:15 It' s not familiar to them. When they see a chango, a chango, for they know it perfectly, a goril. Whatever it is, they know it, it' s familiar to them. But, for example, a bear does not arouse any interest in them. They don' t know what it is. When he shows them some animals from other regions, they also have no greater interest in that. But when he shows them the image of an extinct animal diplodocus, sixty million years ago, the natives begin to point it out as the mokel in bembe nervously because, moreover, according to tradition, the moque in sale kills him. And it is that, according to what these people began to know in a thousand nine hundred and fifty- nine, that is, twenty years ago, during a hunt, they had killed one of these animals and had eaten it, but the one who ate it died. The people who ate the flesh of that animal had died, so a story was woven about the moquel embezzling in Witch and this arose as a myth. Then the people who saw this get scared and know what they' re talking about, because they point it out immediately. Not so, other animals that were shown to them. Of course you' ll tell me good they can really get confused. Yes, of course, popular imagination can be very great, but when they showed them a hippopotamus, they knew what it was. There isn' t in that place, though.

24:44 Let me explain that in the Lake Tele region and in the Lycooa region there are no native hippos and the rhinos don' t go there either the soil is too soft. So what did these people describe? I read him expedition. He pointed out that the animal would be about ten meters long, which could be very high in the head. It would be snake- like. There' s no more in the description. It was from a reptile as such. The skin was slightly soft, but at the same time it was very rough, very thick. Several things were pointed out and that well, one thing that caught attention were the ridges. I can' t lose sight of it being a thousand nine hundred and seventy- nine when the macall and Powell expedition occurs. And in that nineteen hundred and seventy- nine people began to describe something that seemed to be crests similar to what a rooster has on his head was described in the spine of this animal. That' s what came up again. What is surprising is that the existence of the ridges of Diplodocus would not be known until a thousand nine hundred and ninety- one years after that interview they had. Finally macal and Powell would have to leave the place without being able to bring something with them. They saw something moving in the water, that way. They saw another little thing, some little one out there, but nothing they could prove Now it is worth noting that during

26:18 these investigations they managed to collect a huge amount of data about the places where this animal most likely existed and it was logical channels of water, low, dense vegetation and new account, the different reports pointed towards the same region, Lake Tele. In a thousand nine hundred and eighty- one the Royal Macal himself would return to the place. On this occasion, roy Macall would head directly to the Lake Tele area. Everything was pointing that way, starting from the city of Depena, which is further north- west. He began the journey with a series of huge problems, because the journey was blocked by logs.

26:59 The streams in which he tried to sail were impossible to navigate. Walking was a problem using native loaders. Even so, it was complicated because, in addition, as they approached the region, the different natives who accompanied the expedition began to abandon it because of the fear of the mo that it or at least that is what is told. The fact is, with this team on the lake, they started working on you looking for him. It should be noted that the roy mcal himself would see something in one of the streams where they were navigating the description of macals that at a certain point heard a splash in front of them and as they looked up, they could observe a very large animal that would dive quickly. The sighting was very brief, but produced a wave of about eighteen inches. It was as described, and this wave quickly advanced. Almost flipping roy Mcal' s canoe. This man immediately interprets it as a very large animal, but so large he could not be a alligator and I repeat that the region near the lake tele is not a territory where there are hippos that could generate a similar wave the animal. In addition, at the moment it is sinking, they get to see the curved shape and the long neck was the only thing they could get on that occasion.

28:19 However, at the same time, in a thousand nine hundred and eighty - one, another American group of researchers led by Herman Regusters, were traveling to Lake Telle, being a little more seasoned and supported by technology. This man, who worked as an engineer at the Chorro propulsion laboratory in Pasadena, California and belonging to NASA, planned an expedition to rectify cartographies. They had cartographies and they had certain data on what would be a GPS with LandSat today. However, everything did not coincide. The expedition as such tried to arrive by means of a seaplane to Lake Tele, but surprise, Lake Teleno is suitable. For that they had to land north of there in a small meadow and walk for five days in the middle of the jungle with about twenty loaders between pygmies and boas. The fact is that when they arrived at Lake Tele they realize that that is impressive the life there is in this place. They could even find a subspecies of ape that wasn' t known. Hundreds of insects found the equipment, among which were several Congolese civil servants for one thousand nine hundred and eighty- one had recovered a little stability and had taken with them government envoys. One of them was a biologist, another of them was a head of natural control and similar things, so they were accompanied by several

29:51 officials, carried an escort, etc. They had the corresponding permits. The expedition as such was incredibly complicated. Ninety- five percent of the drugs they carried within their endowment were used by the natives themselves who were often sick upon arrival at Lake Tele. They realize that Lake Tele, as you are seeing it right now in the picture, is not round. The image is incredibly misleading because it has a false coastline. The shore is false. It is not, but it is populated by thousands of trees, plants, lush vegetation, but it is inside the water. So the real shore of lake TV is very variable. It is a kind of mangrove where the water, just fifteen centimeters from the surface, is so saturated with particles that it becomes dark to the bottom. It' s impossible to see what' s in there.

30:51 It' s hard to meet him. In some parts the lake can be up to ten meters deep, in others it is barely one two meters. There are numerous heads that form among the vegetation that generate this species of small caves of vegetation, a kind of roots that unite with each other in a virtually impossible network. The expedition also faced a number of tremendous problems, such as environmental humidity. By staying in these regions for a long time, from the cameras, the recording equipment presented faults and faults due to the degree of humidity. The films, the photographic films ruined the temperature above forty degrees environmental humiditys permanently beyond ninety- five percent, a brutal thing. The clothes quickly deteriorated, the shoes quickly deteriorated the food. Of course, my what to say, the natives of the region, who went practically with a loincloth, could bear the best, because the Americans, accustomed to a totally different climate, the situation was very complex. But in addition to this, the expedition as such was amazingly beneficial. Thousands of known species, unknown insects, could be recovered. All that and there was a meeting at a certain point.

32:21 Herman Reguster' s wife, Kia, who accompanies the expedition, is on an inflatable raft on one of the shores of the lake tele when suddenly about 30 meters from it today in a splash and the head of the mokel comes out in Bebe. The person who accompanied her, who was a local person, is horribly frightened and begins to yell at her the muquel en bembe the animal that, realizing that they are there, looks at them, looks at them and sinks. In a matter of seconds it sinks. What Kia, Herman Regu' s wife, described is that the animal was a very long neck that stood out from the water for at least two meters. The head, though shaped like a serpent, the appearance of a serpent' s head was not such, because it was not linear with the neck, but lay down. It was described as the color was the same, the oily appearance of the skin, et cetera. This woman described it completely, but she could not take a picture because at the time she turned around to look for a camera to take it, there was no such animal. He had escaped. The expedition would also recover, in addition to many testimonies, more would recover several encounters, because as they were sailing in the different fingers of the lake that are formed that can be seen now in the photo, they could observe how the animal to which he plunged himself as if there were several,

33:52 but do not lose sight that this is our territory of hippopotamuses. There are no hippos here. It was discovered that there was even a variant of so very unusual, that there were other variants of unknown insects, millions of bees, insects and so on. The fact is, they couldn' t have clear evidence. One of the Congolese biologists who was with them or with choleños, who is Marceline Agnaña. This biologist would also be able to retrieve some other data, but there was no solid evidence Some time later. Aquiña himself would return there in a thousand nine hundred and eighty- three and this man would be within walking distance of the animal. According to his testimony and a description he made during the presentation of a report he was about twenty meters away from the animal and could see it for at least several minutes as he moved close to the shore devouring plants. In his description, that was very similar to what Roy Macal and Powell had written as a diplodocus, but it wasn' t that big. It was much smaller. In addition to this, the marceline A Nana himself would have managed to photograph one of the only clear and precise photographs of a footprint of a moque enmbe, which is this one that I am showing you right now, a footprint in which you see a slit of about ten centimeters deep of a leg, with the shape similar

35:24 to the leg of a rhinoceros with three fingers or three claws, as you want to see, with three bumps, that would be conspicuous if it were not, because in the place it is also not reindeer to be before in this specific area of Lake Tele they cannot enter. There' s no way they' re coming. There, the vegetation is so dense that they couldn ' t move. They do not belong to this region, because, therefore, that was ruled out. However, there was no recording. The recording that Marceline tried to take to Gnana would be a disaster for ns and at the time of beginning to record with an eight- millimeter camera his own cachucha, his own cap, unduly obstructed the lens. So it didn' t do any good. Casually, it didn' t help. Marceline' s expedition would be very conspicuous for some zoologists. It really wasn' t very convincing, especially because this man was trying to justify a little bit of going there. During the following years there have been another series of expeditions, even in the year two thousand and seven a Japanese expedition that obtained even more dubious photographs, etcetera. Why, then, if there have been so many expeditions, nothing has been found. Perhaps one of the clearest explanations is that of William Gibbons. Gibbons was there in the nineties and at the early two thousand point number one. Regions are incredibly difficult to access. There are all the

36:57 places where something can be hidden. The area of the go tele is incredibly complex in terms of vegetation, in terms of the formation of these cavities inside the water, which make it impossible to see if there is anything swimming down there. It' s not going to be seen on the surface. Secondly, the expeditions could have been for very limited and very limited times because the Government itself, the political situation itself makes it very difficult to be in those regions. Even more complex is the condition of the communities themselves. Some of them turn out to be friendly while others can be very dangerous. It is a region that has also been plagued for years by endemic problems, corruption, violence and now the exploitation of mineral deposits that are in the hands of real mafias. So the existence of this animal is very difficult to verify. As to whether there are any remains out there, do not lose sight of the fact that in these equatorial regions of Africa a dead animal disappears in a matter of minutes. So simple And it is also in the vicinity of a lake that has a natural fluctuation of up to ten meters depending on the season, that is, that it can advance or go back depending on the rainy season.

38:13 Obviously, what dies on the shore the following year is gone and its remains can be sunk in several meters of mud. Normally during seasonal changes, when periods of rain come more intense and less intense, streams provide an incredible amount of sediment, which makes whatever is there stay there. It is one of those mysteries that will be very difficult to prove now You will tell me. We are in the midst of satellites, Google and amazing things. How come no one' s seen anything. Well, if you consider that at 15 centimeters deep there is total darkness, whatever is swimming out there is not going to be seen. But the other question comes. What could this animal do? What is clear is that it is not a diplodocus. That' s very obvious. However, one of the interesting things that have been pointed out in recent years, from the descriptions and from the most recent archaeological findings, one of the possibilities is that it was an antarctosaur. Anttartosaurus was discovered relatively recently and there is an interesting fact. This fact is that the antarctosaur has been discovered in periods after the cretaceous, which means that it was an animal that was not extinct with all the others, but was present for several

39:49 million years. More. It has been found in regions of South America and Central Africa, which makes some researchers think that this zoo would be and the animal. Its appearance is very similar to that of a diplodocus, but it is much smaller. It is also believed that it had dorsal ridges to control its temperature, which coincides with the description made in the seventies by the natives of the region, who claimed that this was the appearance of the bug a large animal, but not too large. That is, it fits perfectly the theory of the survival of a fit animal in a suitable environment do not lose sight of any other detail. The Licoala region as a whole among the countries that make up it represents about eight hundred zero square miles, equivalent to the whole Alaska, in a single place that has a very low population. It ' s not accurate, there' s no way to know exactly. But if you take into account that the entire Congo has five million six hundred zero inhabitants, more or less, and that this region is the remote and lonely region, the population density is minimal, it is possible that it is there.

41:01 Yeah, maybe it' s just one animal. No. The descriptions made by the natives range from the territories of Gabon to well into the territory in Central Africa, Zambia and other countries of the region, which gives us an idea of a population of animals, which is perfectly justified that they could exist and remain there as territorial animals, aquatic and to the full extent of evils. This region is saturated with small creeks, small lakes, small ponds that did not even appear on the maps, but that have the proper conditions the fauna, the vegetation to sustain the life of one of these great animals.

41:44 Without many problems for some zoologists cryptos. If we want to believe in the existence of some great surviving Saurio of those periods, this would be the place and this would be the perfect lake for such an effect, the lake tele in the middle of Liquala in Congo. We have to wait longer. Yes, of course, for some unbelievers of these subjects fifty zero articles have been published that claim that everything is a myth that is actually not a dinosaur, but a hippopotamus. Well, the different naturalists who have participated have insisted that this is not a hippopotamus region. So what is an antarctosaur? Maybe I don' t know, but within all the evidence there is, a few reveal, for example, the sound. On the Gibbons expedition, he had the opportunity to hear a sound that did not correspond to any of the animals in the region and that the natives assured was the mokel in Benbe.

42:52 In the particular case of German Rugesters and Qua to his wife, the recordings they obtained at the site could not be fully analyzed for several reasons, the first of them because there was a brutal saturation of environmental sounds, but the sound they described was a kind of deep gurgle that was heard far away, which revealed that this animal was very large, with a huge resonance box, which corresponds to a long neck. The sound was growing until it ended up in some kind of loud scream. The sound was recorded. There are recordings that are in the United States, but they could not be fully identified.

43:35 It' s interesting, but during Herman Regusters' research, before his death, he managed to identify at least forty sounds in the recordings, chicharras, insectos, micos, birds, nocturnals, etcetera, etcetera, except that of the mockel in Bembe what you think and, if I may, what do you think. If we send some very affectionate greetings. We want to send a greeting to Antonio Almaran who is in Mexico City, Joseph Abath and his father Carmelo. They met us when we were at the Doll, particularly in the play there in the auditorium of Radio Son station in Alto Tonga and precisely where we presented the Machete story recently. We' re very happy to know.

44:24 Thank you for this story and for the fact that you have been with us for so long. There was a ship that is in Argentina, Betsy and Medina, that accompanies us from Venezuela, Victoria Medina and her husband, Alfonso Martínez, who are going to have a baby, a baby girl. Congratulations to Mila Sánchez, who gets up early with us from Spain and really gets up early because they arrive at four or thirty in the chat four thirty in the morning. Thanks for that company. We appreciate it very much. And for bib Roth, our friend I saw Brot, who' s always been with us. For Raúl Altuna, Raúl altuna greets his love, Emma Celeste Pérez in Argentina. Raúl is a guy who has also been with us for a long time. Leo and Gerardo, who are in Maryland, in the United States, for Barbara Euridice Blas Romero, who is in Cuernavaca, in Mexico, in the city of Eternal Spring, a city with a magnificent climate, for Jufred Rosillo, who is in Belgium, for Cecilia Rauda and her daughter Georgina, and who are in El Salvador. A hug to the Savior César Dominguez, greets his children, Gabriel and Bania, a man who is pleased to be with us together. For Liliana Calixto, who is in Bogotá, Colombia, Tierra de café, very good Angel Urbina while working on the night shift, He likes to listen to us. He works in a convenience store in Ciudad Juárez, in Chihuahua, Mexico, Territory with Mancha, truly full of stories, tremendous care for the Guerrero family that is in grajas

46:00 of San Isidro, in Puebla, in the city in the central part of Mexico. Many thanks to them have been with us for years. We sent them a hug. Thank you for joining us today on this new platform. For Sulma Patricia Vaquero Aguilar in Colombia, for Diana or Campo who is in Honduras, for Angela, who is in valparaíso yoa who listens to us on leaving work. Thank you very much Elian Burgos, who is in Uruguay, Saúl López and his wife, Fabiola, Araceli Sánchez, his daughter Carmen, his brother- in- law Celsus and a nephew named Toñito that we recommend you go see white flag stories. And for the Calderón Pérez family. And one last thanks will see Arnulfo González, Patrick Rosas, Sara del Carmen Mendoza, Karina Gallegos, Jason Sánchez Macías, the Va Guajardo Vázquez, all of them have been supporting the Canal through donations through a thing called Super Thengs, which is something new that is there in the Channel, which we are not very sure how it works. But they' ve been giving us donations.

47:04 We appreciate it very much. We value that help. They support us very much to support the channel and we truly appreciate that, that enthusiasm for helping us. We thank you very much that you have accompanied us this evening very good night and rest in peace by teasing the Roman. Come on.