July 16, 2024
El misterio de los niños Sodder || Relatos del lado oscuro (Podcast)

5 niños, un incendio, no hay cuerpos, no hay restos. ¿Dónde están?
5 niños, un incendio, no hay cuerpos, no hay restos. ¿Dónde están?
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Fiat Ville is a small town,
a community in the middle of the mountains
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in West Virginia, United States.
By the year two thousand and twenty,
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its population was about four thousand and
eight hundred or so inhabitants. That included
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the rural inhabitants, that is,
the people who live far away. It
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' s a very comfortable community.
Those who live there claim that it is
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an incredibly quiet, classic place,
with a shop, the classic general store
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a single cinema, There are no
big malls nor will there ever be.
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There is a church, a school, a sports field, there are many
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things that are very nice in this
place. The people who live there live
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calmly, but there is also a
secret and a very sad story accompanies tales
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from the dark side strange beings inexplicable
events, divers stories that other minds prefer
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to ignore. In a thousand nine
hundred and forty- five, this very
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town, this very place, Fiat
Ville, in West Virginia, in the
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United States, was even smaller.
At the census of one thousand nine hundred
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and forty it recorded a population of
one thousand four hundred and eighty inhabitants,
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that is, very little. People
know each other. Obviously, everyone knows
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each other with that number of inhabitants. Well, everyone has to be sometimes
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one thing, sometimes another. So, for example, the fire chief,
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when he' s not a fire
chief, is a man who has a
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business. That is why the Commissioner, in addition to being a Commissioner,
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is also engaged in other business.
You can' t have everything at once
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because it' s so small what
good? Besides, in the winter,
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this place can be incredibly cold.
It' s a remote area, but
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the people who live there are quiet. In a thousand nine hundred and forty
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- five, many of the inhabitants
of fit Ville were of Italian origin.
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During the great migration to the United
States at the beginning of the 20th century,
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many Italians had come who, far
from going to big cities like the
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vast majority, had looked for quieter
places, where to thrive, where to
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form families, where to make a
life. One of them is Georgio satú,
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an Italian from Sardinia, but at
the time of arriving at customs they
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find it hard to pronounce his name
when he arrives. Actually, he'
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s a kid. He is thirteen
years old, so he must have arrived
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in a thousand nine hundred and eight, because he was born in a thousand
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eight hundred and ninety- five.
A crazy boy has truly left his parents
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in Italy and arrives in America accompanied
by his brother. But his brother when
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they come to customs and realizes that
they don' t speak Italian here,
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that they don' t understand it, that it' s a different world,
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totally different, doesn' t even
cross customs to Georgio' s brother,
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just grab his bag, turn around
and return to the boat that brought
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him. One of those conditions for
receiving migrants and allowing them to land was
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that if any of them were rejected, the ship should take them back to
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the port from which it had left. There was a series of dealings with
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the American government and the fact is
that Georgio' s brother panicked. He
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doesn' t like this, he
feels lonely, he feels abandoned and he
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leaves. The only one crossing customs
is Georgio. The problem is that when
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he tells the guy the boring civil
servant who was scoring the names Georgio sadu,
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that man puts George sother and gives
him an immigration document and now he
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' s George Sothr He' s
a thirteen- year- old boy.
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By the way, he wasn'
t a very big guy, very fast.
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It moves is that it does.
It' s a very clever name,
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very diligent, very agile. So
first, the first thing you can
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think of is good. He who
speaks Italian and finds a place where someone
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speaks Italian and gives him some directions
to where he should go or then another,
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but over there he gives him other
directions. And that' s how
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he gets a job by handing out
newspapers. Then get a job as a
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messenger. Then he gets a job
bringing food to the railroad employees. Then
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he gets another job driving a truck
in a coal mine near Fiat Ville.
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So he likes this place. In
fact, he loves it It' s
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great driving very soon. He'
s not just a driver, he'
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s got his first truck. It
must have been a very old horn year
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truck, but he' s delighted
with this. Some time later life goes
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on. When in a thousand nine
hundred twenty or so, he discovers the
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love of his life, he does
not hesitate to marry for a minute.
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This is Jenny Jenishi Priannie, also
an immigrant. She' s a Linda
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girl. They fall in perfect love. Okay. It' s a thousand
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nine hundred and twenty a. There' s not much falling in love.
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The reality is that George is asking
for a marriage Jenny because she needs a
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wife, she needs a family.
There really wasn' t much of a
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crush, but Jenny' s a
pretty girl and besides, she' s
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a very hard- working woman.
Also together, George and Jenny, in
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a short time they are driving several
trucks. She takes care of administrative matters,
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payments fees. He takes care of
driving a truck, he has another
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with a driver, he has another
with another driver and they start growing very
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soon. They' re already building
their own house. It is a good
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house, because in those good years, the children that God commands are the
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ones that are received. So good, when in a thousand nine hundred and
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twenty- three the first is born. That no longer stops and is an
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important number of children. The one
they have. In fact, there are
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ten children over a period of twenty
years. That' s ten kids.
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No one dies of illness, because
Jenny Jenichi Prianni, the wife of George
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Sother, is incredibly careful. No
lack of medicine, no lack of care,
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no lack of attention. The kids
go to church, they have to
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learn from it. They go to
school too, they go here too,
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they go there too. It'
s a very, very prosperous family.
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George himself is a man integrated into
his community. He' s a coal
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transporter. Those trucks are for transporting
coal and work with the local mines.
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He is also prosperous as a member
of the community as well Sometimes he is
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a volunteer firefighter, sometimes he is
part of the city council, sometimes,
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when there is no other, he
has even had to be a policeman.
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It' s not that it'
s an obligatory charge, just your honorary
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charge. But when you are not
doing all that, you are working very
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hard and when you are not carrying
some of the little ones, because even
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when at that time and you will
not let me lie if you remember the
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stories of grandfather, at that time
you did not used to be very affectionate.
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Parents used to be distant, severe
energetic, an example of neatness.
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But George, George, came here
as a child. So you really are
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still a very cheerful person. Jenny, for her part, works very hard.
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The eldest son for a thousand nine
hundred forty- five is a soldier.
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Yes, George didn' t have
to go to war, but his
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eldest son, aged twenty- two, had to go to war. He
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' s a soldier and he'
s on the front line, but fortunately,
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nothing' s happened to him.
Jenican, when he pronounces his son
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' s name, keeps persigning himself
a little to ask for him. And
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after that the list is very long
and ends with the smallest, the little
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girl named Sylvia of two years.
So there' s a 20- year
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- old and there' s a
little girl of just two. It is
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a prolific family for one thousand nine
hundred forty- five. In addition,
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one of the marion daughters is employed
in a shop right there, at fiet
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Ville, she' s doing well. She is also a very hardworking girl
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and is charming, so charming that
when she gets paid her salary close to
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Christmas she goes and buys gifts for
the little ones. For the older ones,
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not anymore, but for the little
ones, yes, everyone gets some
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little stuff and everything is ready.
The nine hundred and forty- five Christmas
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dinner must have been a very pleasant
time, because George had been working during
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the day, but in the middle
of the day everything stops. Jenny'
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s got a special dinner set up. There' s no family. Don
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' t lose sight of the fact
that you' re both Italian immigrants.
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Their families are there in neither Italy. George never saw his family Jennitch and
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Piriani again, much less. The
fact is, it' s just them,
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but there' s a lot of
them. So sit down at the
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table. And that' s a
scandal, because they' re Italians.
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So, suddenly Jenny Screams and Manotea
and Count This and Manotea and the others.
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It' s a Tremenda lizard.
It' s a nice family.
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George can sometimes be a little radical, radical in the sense that he has
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an opinion of life and there is
no one to move it. He'
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s 50 years old, he'
s got to come out of the bottom
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alone, from deep down. He
came here with nothing and now he'
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s a distinguished member of the Hidepell
Society No one owes anything he buys.
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He pays when he asks for something. Pay for it. So he is
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a fairly respected man, but he
has this rude character of a man who
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was made by force of blows.
That is very clear. For example,
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when an insurance salesman came to offer
him insurance and after discussing this, that
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poor insurance salesman became dizzy from the
scolding he put on him. Good friend
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George. It was a strange moment. George was very decomposed because that guy
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ended up telling him that his house
was going to burn and that he would
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regret not buying insurance. That was
absurd. But in addition, they had
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had this annoying discussion about Mussolini,
Benito Mussolini, the duche, the dictator
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who was in Italy and who was
ally of Hitler and who was murdered in
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a very ugly way and that there
were very ugly things around him. For
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George Sodel, Mussolini was a tyrant
and made this known to everyone. In
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fact, when I was arguing with
the seller, who also turned out to
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be Italian, they ended up telling
each other things about Mussolini. The seller
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told him that he was a jerk
and Mussolini was a hero and he replied
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that Mussolini was a tyrant and a
bastard and bonus were made of words that
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man left. That was the kind
of thing he used to say and,
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of course, when he went to
town and there was something or he was
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going to have a drink with friends, he wasn' t a drunk,
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no, but yeah. Eventually he
came to the village and took a drink
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while he spoke in Italian with the
other Italians and had no trouble letting go
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of some of his political opinions,
even within the United States, to express
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his opinion about the United States itself. That' s very delicate in that
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country, but life goes on and
now it' s December 24th, Christmas
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Eve. All that has been left
behind and the eyes of the children shine
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with joy. When Marion, the
girl of about seventeen, the anger,
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the eldest daughter, pride is a
pretty girl, she begins to take out
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the little gifts that she has brought
them. Of course Jenny, Mom Jenny,
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has also compared gifts for everyone.
There' s no shortage of money.
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They' re tidy, but there' s no shortage of money.
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Besides, they' ve made some
arrangements for the house. Everything' s
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fine. The dinner must have been
very nice at about ten o' clock
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at night, after having had dinner, after having given a little hugs with
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a little present he has, George
decides to go up to rest. He
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' s tired. Finally, he' s a man who at four in
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the morning. Every day he'
s standing up for a while later,
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the boys are still downstairs. Mom
Jenny, who also gets up at four
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in the morning and is very tired, decides to go up to rest,
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but those boys are very happy and
ask her to please not send them to
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sleep, to allow them to stay. Marion, the 17- year-
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old girl' s out there with
you. Mom Jenny accepts on the only
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condition that when they go to sleep, they turn off the lights and close
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the door, that is, they
lock the door with very simple conditions.
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That' s where Moris, who' s 14, Fortachón Luis, nine
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years old, stays. Betty,
who' s five years old, stays
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too. Little Jenny who' s
eight and martens twelve, Marion' s
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gonna take care of them. She' s the 17- year- old
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girl. Well, the little two- year- old gets in Mom'
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s arms and goes to sleep.
It must have been ten thirty at night.
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I don' t think it was
more like 12 or 12: 30
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at night. Hard to tell,
but the phone rings. Yeah. It
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' s a house that has electric
power and a telephone is a thousand nine
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hundred forty- five. It'
s a modern family. Even though they
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live a little far from Firedville.
They are not within the city itself,
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but a little far away in the
Boscosa area there is a telephone. So
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the phone rings and it rings and
it keeps ringing. Mom. Jenny gets
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up from where she is, walks
up the stairs. Downstairs. The house
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is large and has one of these
beautiful stairs and the phone is close to
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the entrance of the house. Over
there, in Star' s living room,
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he picks up the phone and answers
the voice he hears is totally unknown
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to him. At the bottom of
that call you hear an atmosphere of partying,
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screaming, laughing, some music.
The person who called you is a
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woman who asks about a person Jenny
has never heard of and has never heard
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of either. In Firetville keep in
mind that there are 1, 480 inhabitants.
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Anyone would know anyone' s name, but the person who' s
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looking for that woman doesn' t
know her. When Jenny mom, Jenny
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says she doesn' t know who
she' s talking about. That voice
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utters a series of improper and mocking
laughter. Mom Jenny hangs up the phone,
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returns to her room, but before
climbing the ladder or surprise, Marion
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is sleeping on a sofa She approaches
and puts her box of pictures because her
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winter or does not lose sight that
it is cold. After that he turns
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around to Rays, the curtains are
open. Go and close the curtains.
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After that he realizes that the door, the door was not locked. Rays
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goes and puts the key to the
tired door, half- disclosed, turns
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off the lights and goes up to
his room without repairing that the boys are
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no longer there, because these five
boys sleep upstairs in the Attic there are
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two rooms there and in one sleep
the girls and in one of the boys.
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The truth is that Jenny must have
given a little laziness, must have
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felt a little laziness, to go
up even further to check that everyone was
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sheltered, so she better go and
lie down and very quickly sleeps the cold
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in the environment, the blankets,
the warm bed there in the middle of
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George and of her is the little
two- year- old silvia. So
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the place is warm, turns around
and sleeps, but something wakes her up
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a while later. It must not
have been past one in the morning,
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because he was just falling asleep when
he heard something fall on the roof of
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his house and roll, then something
else hits on the roof of the house
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and rolls. After this she hears
another sound again and something that rolls she
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wonders if it will be some animal, something that is falling from the trees.
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Note that there are trees around.
Maybe Snow doesn' t pay so
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much attention and falls asleep again.
But a while later it must not have
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been much time. When she starts
coughing and coughing, she joins in because
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she misses that and feels a horrible
itch in her nose and throat. And
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when it turns, it doesn'
t lose sight of this detail. When
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turned on, the lamp lights the
lamp on and the room is full of
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smoke. Do you immediately start screaming, George? Wake up George? Wake
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up? Look smoke over fire?
He starts screaming at the time when George
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has woken up, joined, takes
the two- year- old girl in
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his arm and runs out of there
as Gris screams all out, all out,
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there' s fire, fire,
fire. When they get down,
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Marion, who was lying down,
has woken up from the screams and soon
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another of the boys, George,
who was out there, has also heard
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the screams and runs out. George
had not stayed with the little ones playing,
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but had gone up to sleep and
his room is next to the parents
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' room. So it comes out
fast when they' re out. Immediately,
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George gives Silvia, to her mother, sees that she is also there
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these three little people. Marion,
four well I go for the others because
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they' re not dating. George. This Italian. Georgeo comes running back
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to his house, which is on
fire. Everywhere, he enters the house,
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but the fire does not let him
pass. The ladder' s on
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fire. You can' t cross
the fire. When he comes out he
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tries to enter Now on the other
side, he breaks a window, tries
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to get in, he tires his
arm, he cuts the other, he
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cuts his face, he gets to
a point in the kitchen where the fire
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burns him, his face, his
hair, his eyebrows, everything, but
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he can' t cross. He' s running back to find his ladder.
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George is very orderly. It always
has the ladder and more in winter,
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because in winter you have to go
up that ladder to remove snow.
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But when he gets to the place
where the ladder is always, he'
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s gone. There' s no
way up there to rescue the kids sleeping
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upstairs. But he' s not
a man with limited resources. So he
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thinks about it quickly and without hesitation
he runs to where one of his trucks
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is, tries to kick him out, walk to move him, paste the
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box to the top of the truck
and from there climb but the truck doesn
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' t start, doesn' t
start. Then another one of the trucks
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jumps, but it doesn' t
turn on either. The last one doesn
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' t turn on either. George' s trucks were in perfect condition in
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an incredibly careful man and just a
while before he had accommodated the trucks.
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Before they went to dinner, the
drivers arrived and left. The ice truck
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was checking and putting them in a
garage where it protected them from winter to
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start the next morning. No one
starts desperate, comes running back and tries
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to throw water something. The eldest
daughter Marion has run to a neighbor'
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s house from where she tries to
call the firemen, but no one answers
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for more than the operator' s
mark. There' s no answer from
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another neighbor who' s seen the
fire in the distance, but the fire
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chief doesn' t know how to
drive and there' s no one to
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drive. So you can' t
go. Immediately some neighbors begin to arrive,
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but the fire is already ending the
house. It' s a terrible
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scene. The hugged fire is a
wooden house, so it has embraced it
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quickly and in forty minutes before they
give three in the morning the house is
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totally fallen. The only thing left
standing is the stone chimney and the throwing
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of the foundations and rubble everywhere.
At about eight o' clock in the
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morning the firemen arrive. Imagine,
you and the police manage to turn off
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a little bit of here and there, but there' s nothing else.
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The search begins there for the remains. Clean that up. Mom, Jenny
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' s destroyed. George Sother is
destroyed. The children are all very nervous
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about the horror of what they have
experienced. They' re staying at the
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house of some acquaintances in Fide Ville. George doesn' t understand what happened.
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The investigation would be a minor requirement, i e, of the chief
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of police. It was evident that
an electrical failure had caused a fire and
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the fire had burned the house and
the boys had died upstairs because they had
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not been able to be rescued.
The fire chief agreed that' s what
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had happened. For the day of
January one thousand nine hundred and forty-
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six accidental death certificates are issued by
fire of the five boys. When George
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Sother comes back to ask the chief
of police, he insists that the cause
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of the fire was probably an electrical
failure and that' s where everything else
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was generated. George then insists,
please give us the bodies of our children,
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with the idea that the firemen had
perhaps recovered the burned bodies to give
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them burial, so that they could
give them a Christian burial. Mom Jenny
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demands the same thing that, please, they hand over the children' s
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bodies. But the fire chief ends
up accepting that there is no body,
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that the fire was so strong that
they disintegrated. It' s a brutal,
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brutal blow, they won' t
even have a body to bury anything.
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They had prepared some graves, had
prepared everything, thinking that the firefighters
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would rescue some remains, something,
but the fire chief, with that stupid
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look that he had always had and
that absolute incompetence of not knowing how to
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drive as head of fire, replies
that they did not recover anything, that
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there was nothing there, because the
fire was so strong that it burned everything
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and ended with the bodies. George
is so destroyed that he leaves the place,
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but do not lose sight that he
is an immigrant who made his way
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alone so he decides to pass on
one of his many trips, in one
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of the nearby large communities, to
fiet Ville, there is a funeral agency.
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And in that funeral agency there'
s a crematory oven, so he
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stops the truck down and asks the
crematorium oven operator what turns out to be
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an Italian and who knows him after
the different signs of grief for the loss
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of the children. George is encouraged
to ask how the cremation works, and
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that man explains to him that a
human body goes into the oven, closes,
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turns on the oven and that it
takes about two hours for it to
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burn completely. George, that immediately
clicks two hours and insists two hours.
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Yeah, two hours to burn all
the meat, fat and so on.
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But then the remains have to be
ground. George is amazed. The remains,
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yes, of course, after incinerating
it, still give large fragments of
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bone. George feels a chill,
but not because of what that man is
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describing to him, which is eschatological
and terrible, but because he is telling
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him a key word. They have
to be ground, that is, remains.
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So he insists again. Explain to
me how they are and explain to
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him that fragments of the skull,
large jaw bones, must be put together
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and those that have not been fractured
by the heat, by the bursting of
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the marrow. That' s right, you have to grind them, but
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there' s plenty of bones left. George asks again many, many like
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how many, and that man already
a little surprised, tells him why you
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ask me, but he answers.
Please tell me how many, to which
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he replies that well, are left
the heads of the femurs, that give
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the upper part of the elbows,
the clavicles, the large bones that have
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no contents and that are fragmented in
half. He then explains that all the
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phalanges are difficult to destroy and that
there is usually a good part of the
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jaw and skull fragmented into pieces.
What else does George want to know at
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what temperature that happens between one thousand
four hundred and one thousand eight hundred per
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mere. Casuality you know how much
wood burns six hundred. George had also
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been part of the fire team and
when you hear what this man is saying,
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you obviously understand that what Fairedvill'
s fire chief said makes no sense
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back. They' ve rented another
house. Where to be. The movement
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of the trucks continues like this.
It' s that well, you have
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to work, but when you confront
your wife you tell her about the open
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discovery. In that place, the
woman freaks out and says well, there
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must be remains somewhere, but besides, she has done her own research.
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Yes, not even Chipriani is also
a woman who survived everything one can imagine
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as an immigrant. He escaped the
mafia networks. I had arrived in New
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York first. Imagine a beautiful young
girl in the middle of a city full
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of mobsters. He had alluded to
that, he had managed to overcome himself,
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he had worked and finally had a
family and this happens to him.
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He looked into it. The first
question is whether there is a short,
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i e a faulty electrical wiring.
There would be light the employee who asks
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that he is a technician in electricity, answers no. If one of the
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cables in the house had failed and
started to be so and sparks come out
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and overheat and burn, most likely
the entire installation would fail. And how
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is it that when you wake up
by coughing on the basis of smoke and
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light the lamp the lamp turns on, but even more so when you are
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outside the house and it is burning
wildly, the two lights of the porch
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are lit. How that could have
happened makes no sense. George decides with
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his workers to return to the house
and find nothing. At first. Indeed,
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there is nothing. There' s
no remains. There is a feeling
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of distress that was described many years
later by one of the daughters, as
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the worst moment of these two'
s life. If there' s anything
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terrible, it' s losing a
son so terrible he doesn' t even
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have a name. An orphan has
no parents, no widower, no wife,
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no widow, but a father without
children does not even have a name.
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And in this case there was something
else. I had lost the children,
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but they weren' t even desperate. He insists again, but the
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police have told him not to case
closed. He manages to do two or
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three things for himself. I repeat
that he is a man of resources,
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he is an intelligent man. So
he starts going to the media at the
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time to the newspapers. He has
several photographs of the boys who are published
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and begin to arrive letters There is
a particular letter that draws attention harshly.
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It' s a letter from a
woman who thought she saw an unknown car
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that morning with five boys in the
back seat and two adult people in front.
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This woman knows the Soders and she
thought they were kids. Soder can
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' t give any more data.
He thought they were heading north, but
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he can' t say it clearly. A short time later. There is
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another matter that attracts attention and this
is an acquaintance of George, a bus
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driver truck driver, who that night, at some point in the morning,
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as he returned to Fireville, observed
something that became very strange to him.
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He saw some kind of spheres of
light or fire falling on the roof of
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the Soder house. At first he
thought it was the boys, knowing that
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at home there are young people who
are not exactly five years old, there
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was one of fourteen, one of
sixteen. Maybe he thought it was the
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boys, playing with some sort of
Christmas object and he didn' t pay
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attention to it. But when the
fire broke out, this guy claimed to
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have seen from the road that crosses
below the Soders' house these spheres of
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fire. The chief of police insists
that this is very subjective. But the
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third report also draws attention because it
comes from a waitress who the next morning
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claims to have served breakfast to five
boys about fifty miles away from Fitville.
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In the place where this happens.
She can' t say if there were
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two or three adults she doesn'
t know. What he does know is
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that there were five boys who fit
the ages pretty much. The car didn
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' t see him. After that, the next report would be about two
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hundred and fifty miles. From there
in a hotel, an employee claimed to
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see a family arrive. The family
had the characteristics of the missing sodern boys
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and at least four adults. With
all this information, George pleads with the
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police to help him. The chief
of police and the head of state don
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' t think there' s much
to investigate, but he' s continuing
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his campaign and he' s still
fighting. Time has passed. You don
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' t think all this happens very
quickly. The time has passed and he
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has even ordered a fence to be
placed in the lower part of the house,
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near the road to one side where
the pictures of the boys are and
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offers a reward of five thousand dollars
to those who give reliable information, but
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beyond that he even offers ten thousand
dollars. The searches continue and George manages
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to get state experts to come,
who will check the remains of the house
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and, indeed, find no bones, but have no clue. Days later,
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in another investigation, they found a
piece of meat that turned out to
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be a piece of meat belonging to
a cow' s liver. He doesn
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' t lose sight of me seeing
it been in winter. The amazing thing
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is that it was very burnt,
but it was there how the bodies of
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five children had disappeared. There were
no answers and so it went on for
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a long time. He continued to
insist on all media nationwide, sending photos,
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letters, until finally Jay Edgar Hoover, the director of the FB,
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ordered them to intervene considering the possibility
of an interstatal kidnapping. The FEB and
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American research lasted two years. Over
the course of these two years, FBI
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agents followed every possible lead, every
single mark that appeared around here. But
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he knows something. They didn'
t find a single rest. The peritors
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themselves checked the people in fB and
checked the place and found some vertebrae,
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human vertebrae from a human back.
Several years had passed. Don' t
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lose sight of that. George hadn' t built the house again. I
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had done another to leave that there
and they could investigate and investigate and find
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some. But these vertebrae did not
correspond. These were old vertebrae. They
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had not been burned, but were
on the ground on earth. There was
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a possibility that he would have been
taken to fill the earth foundations of some
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place where there was an old burial. It wasn' t something I had
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to hide, much less. It
was an old affair. But they didn
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' t find the boys' remains. But they didn' t find any
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solid leads either. The clues pointed
in all directions. George would continue to
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search for skies, sea and earth, periodically, publishing advertisements periodically sending letters
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to the different media at the time, but they would never find it.
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George sick tired for nine hundred and
sixty- eight does not let down guard
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Jennitchi Prian and his wife goes on. The children are already elderly people,
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even John, the greatest, who
in the forty- five was a soldier.
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Now he is a man made and
right, and he asks them to
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stop doing this, to accept his
resignation. The Sons died there in that
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fire, but George is convinced that
it was not so. In nineteen hundred
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and sixty- eight they receive an
enigmatic letter. It' s coming from
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somewhere in Kentucky. It has no
address, it doesn' t say sender,
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but it' s a photograph of
a young Italian- looking, curly
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black hair. When Jenny, Mom
Jenny, sees the picture, the first
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thing she says is Heaven is my
son referring to dying. He' s
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my son and he shows him the
letter. He' s my son without
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having read what came in the back
of the photo. In the back of
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the photo, a series of information
came a little strange because I said I
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love my brother Luis and then some
numbers came like some kind of key.
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Not this letter. No. No. No. He didn' t have
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much data, he didn' t
have much information, except he said the
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name of George' s son.
The letter was sent. There was an
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attempt to codify what it meant,
which it didn' t mean During this
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time, George had become a very
expert man. Twenty- three years had
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passed. He had become an expert
in finding clues, meeting people, meeting
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detectives, hiring detectives, and calling
back an old acquaintance a lot. It
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' s been said he was a
jerk who ran away with the money.
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No, that' s not true. George had met a private detective,
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a trusted man, had helped him
for some time and had always returned.
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In that one thousand nine hundred and
sixty- eight. This was a strong
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lead. There was a feeling in
Jenny that this was her son. The
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detective took the picture, took the
data and went to look for it.
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He never came back. He never
returned home or to his office. Nowhere.
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He didn' t show up anywhere
when he was reported missing. He
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never showed up. Like the boys, the detective had vanished forever. George
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would die about a year later.
Jenny would go on with the search until
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her own death. In the eighties
already made a very old woman, an
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old woman, kept periodically asking for
the intervention, asking for the search.
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At least some remains that could be
tested would have been found attesting to where
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the children had ended up. You
never knew what happened to them. They
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missed that Christmas night. What'
s clear is that they weren' t
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there. During the following years different
experts, experts from different university disciplines entered
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into a kind of heated discussion about
whether a human body would actually disintegrate in
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those conditions, considering that the little
ones' body that thinner, lighter probably,
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but there was a boy of fourteen
one out of twelve were in the
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upper part on a freezing night.
The blankets are usually not so flammable,
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they were not synthetic fabrics. So
it was complicated for some fire experts.
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The bodies should have been there charred, perhaps turned into some kind of black
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mass, but identifiable as human bodies. There were some evidence of much more
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violent fires where the fire had taken
two or three hours and bodies were recovered.
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This had not happened here. Within
what had recovered from the rubble there
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were also some figures that had not
disintegrated from ceramics, There were some plates,
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There were also some elements of wood
that had not been completely burned,
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how it was that five bodies had
disappeared until the eighties. The question remains
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and the discussion would end there when
it was established that it was difficult to
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believe that something else had disappeared.
What happened to them. Well, there
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had been several previous incidents. The
first of them was an employee, a
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job seeker went looking for George to
apply for a job. He was Italian.
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This had happened perhaps at the beginning
of a thousand nine hundred and forty
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- five. The subject had probably
just arrived fugitive from Italy, a former
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soldier, probably someone who had had
to do with the Mussolini regime and who
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came to ask for work. During
the conversation he had had with George,
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they had had a confrontation on the
subject of Mussolini. George was completely opposed
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to Mussolini, but that subject gave
him the impression that it was a brown
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shirt, that is, someone who
had been with Mussolini and seeing that the
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war was lost had fled. He
didn' t hire him, but that
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guy ended up telling him how dangerous
a fire is on his wires. Even
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though the house was quite recent.
The installation had been made recently. That
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guy turned out strange. He disappeared
without saying anything else. George wasn'
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t gonna hire him. Then there
was the weird incident, that of the
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insurance salesman. It all coincided in
a very macabre way, because that guy
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came telling him that he had been
recommended to come to see him because he
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would need insurance. Just in case
there was a fire in his house.
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This had a lot to do with
the guy I had talked to. It
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was weird. Why did they come
to offer George insurance in this place,
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away from fayet Ville, telling him
a fire from his house. But also,
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it all happened because at that time
they were coming back to the kids
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at school and that guy said he
wouldn' t like to see his kids
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dead, really burned in a fire. Why don' t you make sure
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and start later you fell into that
discussion about Mussolini. Again Mussolini, George
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ended up telling him enough, I
don' t want anything to get away
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that guy threatened him by telling you
to remember me when his children and his
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house burn and disappeared in a car
that was down two days before Christmas.
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When he returned from work with the
truck, he could see an unknown car
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parked on a curve. A little
before the house. There was a press
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inside. He didn' t know
all this told the police, but it
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didn' t do any good.
It wasn' t good enough to write
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a clue for something. He didn' t even keep the name of the
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insurance salesman. He didn' t
register it, he didn' t want
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to buy anything, he wasn'
t going to keep any cards or anything.
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One of the theories that would arise
there from all these testimonies was revenge,
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a political revenge. George had often
outsourced his opposition to Mussolini' s
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regime in front of many acquaintances,
and perhaps a vengeance from some Mussolini supporters
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who had come to the United States
fleeing the war. Do not lose sight
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of the fact that there were Italian
military contingents who went to fight at the
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front, at the front with the
Germans, at the Russian front and ended
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up defeated in horrible ways and many
fled knowing that the Russians were already coming,
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knowing that the Americans were already in
Sicily. They ended up running away
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disguised as something else, but they
fled and have probably arrived in the United
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States, if it was delicate.
But there is also another very big possibility,
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the mafia, the Italian mafi,
although Fiadville was a very safe place
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where there was no such thing.
George was a man who was traveling with
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trucks loaded with coal all the time
and was a very visible man, very
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prosperous in other communities where he was
carrying the coal, it is very likely
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that if there had been a mafia
and they had tried to extort it,
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being a tough man like George,
he would have refused and this would have
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been his revenge that so- called
insurance salesman. He was actually a mob
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envoy who was studying the house and
was studying the family to see how he
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threatened him. Any of the options
were possible. Come on There was in
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the seventies a madman who said they
had been abducted, but the question is
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what had happened, how they had
been taken out. See you had in
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the bottom six people, the oldest
was 17- year- old Mariom,
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who was looking after the others.
Then I followed one of fourteen, one
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of twelve. They weren' t
kids who were easily dominable. They would
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have made noise they would have shouted
and a few meters away was the room
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with the parents' open door they
would have heard something like it, that
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they had been taken out without anyone
noticing, but even more without Mario herself,
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in which she slept on the sofa, would have found out. One
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of the possibilities that a theory pointed
out was that the boys would have heard
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something that caught their attention outside the
house and would have gone out to see
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what it was all about while Marion
was golden. Being outside, they would
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have been kidnapped and taken for what
or why. It' s not clear.
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The search in the United States was
very extensive for a long time and
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nothing was found. There are those
who point out that they were most likely
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taken to the coast and taken to
Italy as a mob revenge, but at
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some point these guys would have been
able to communicate, they were not babies
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00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:35.079
and that never happened. Today,
some are theorists of this subject hold a
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much sadder end. Yes, the
boys were abducted by kidnappers, by the
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mob, by business opponents, by
political enemies. Whatever you want, they
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were killed and buried in unnamed clandestine
graves. What worse punishment than never knowing
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what happened to your children. To
you, what do you think good and
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after such a gruesome account like this, what do you think if we send
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some greetings and congratulations to lighten the
atmosphere Cecilia RodrÃguez. She' s at
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Carol Highland Elementary School in Maryland,
in the United States, and she hasn
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' t written a most beautiful email
that we thank her very much. We
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are very proud that they have such
high esteem for us. We sent him
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a big hug in the middle of
winter. So far I also have the
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birthday of Gabriela Pérez MartÃnez and the
birthday of Pablo César Campos, sources that
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fulfill years near this date. So
double congratulations, congratulations on Christmas and congratulations
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on birthday, a strong hug.
And here too we have some thanks that
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are important to us. These thanks
are to the people who collaborate with the
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channel making donations throughout the videos.
In the bottom part a little heart appears
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with a sign of weights and it
is a way to make contributions to support
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the channel and we greatly appreciate it. So our enormous thanks go to Ezequiel
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Valerius, to Orian Liff to Ricardo
Montelongo, who is all the way across
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the world in New Zealand. Thank
you very much, Ricardo, for always
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keeping an eye on us. Mireya
González Betti, Sais Raúl Jiménez for Patrick
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Rosas, unconditional friend of this channel, Luis Miranda, Salvador GarcÃa, Adriana
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Realle, Carlos RodrÃguez and Juan Lozano, all of them people who help us
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move on. We send them a
big hug and now some greetings. Emmanoem
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campbell, to whom we always send
a greeting, because Ramon Alvarado, his
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wife and grandchildren, who are in
California, are always waiting. Oscar Lobo
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is a Honduran, but he'
s in the United States. We understand
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that. We wish him well that
he will find prosperity in that country and
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that he will be able to help
his people who have remained in Honduras.
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Monica Vallejos and her husband, Helmuth
Toledo, are in Chile, in the
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southern cone of the American continent,Ãngel Escobedo and her boyfriend, Gregorio,
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who are in Oregon, in the
north of the United States, that is,
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point to point, Leonardo, Benjamin
and Gisel, who makes props and
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armors while listening to us hears what
father. We have some very nice ones
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that we love, because they are
objects that decorate very well any space for
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Crono Gremory, the Ruiz Hu family
that are in San Nicolás de los Garza,
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in Monterrey, Nuevo León Wow,
a very beautiful place, by the
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way, MarÃa del Carmen SolÃs GarcÃa
and his daughter Araceli, who are in
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Campeche, in the Gulf of Mexico, also a very beautiful place Yajaira Romero,
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who always listens to us. Thank
you very much, thank you all
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for joining us tonight. We hear
ourselves very soon good night and rest in
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peace or we give s
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Fiat Ville is a small town,
a community in the middle of the mountains
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in West Virginia, United States.
By the year two thousand and twenty,
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its population was about four thousand and
eight hundred or so inhabitants. That included
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the rural inhabitants, that is,
the people who live far away. It
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' s a very comfortable community.
Those who live there claim that it is
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an incredibly quiet, classic place,
with a shop, the classic general store
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a single cinema, There are no
big malls nor will there ever be.
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There is a church, a school, a sports field, there are many
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things that are very nice in this
place. The people who live there live
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calmly, but there is also a
secret and a very sad story accompanies tales
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from the dark side strange beings inexplicable
events, divers stories that other minds prefer
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to ignore. In a thousand nine
hundred and forty- five, this very
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town, this very place, Fiat
Ville, in West Virginia, in the
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United States, was even smaller.
At the census of one thousand nine hundred
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and forty it recorded a population of
one thousand four hundred and eighty inhabitants,
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that is, very little. People
know each other. Obviously, everyone knows
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each other with that number of inhabitants. Well, everyone has to be sometimes
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one thing, sometimes another. So, for example, the fire chief,
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when he' s not a fire
chief, is a man who has a
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business. That is why the Commissioner, in addition to being a Commissioner,
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is also engaged in other business.
You can' t have everything at once
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because it' s so small what
good? Besides, in the winter,
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this place can be incredibly cold.
It' s a remote area, but
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the people who live there are quiet. In a thousand nine hundred and forty
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- five, many of the inhabitants
of fit Ville were of Italian origin.
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During the great migration to the United
States at the beginning of the 20th century,
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many Italians had come who, far
from going to big cities like the
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vast majority, had looked for quieter
places, where to thrive, where to
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form families, where to make a
life. One of them is Georgio satú,
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an Italian from Sardinia, but at
the time of arriving at customs they
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find it hard to pronounce his name
when he arrives. Actually, he'
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s a kid. He is thirteen
years old, so he must have arrived
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in a thousand nine hundred and eight, because he was born in a thousand
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eight hundred and ninety- five.
A crazy boy has truly left his parents
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in Italy and arrives in America accompanied
by his brother. But his brother when
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they come to customs and realizes that
they don' t speak Italian here,
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that they don' t understand it, that it' s a different world,
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totally different, doesn' t even
cross customs to Georgio' s brother,
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just grab his bag, turn around
and return to the boat that brought
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him. One of those conditions for
receiving migrants and allowing them to land was
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that if any of them were rejected, the ship should take them back to
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the port from which it had left. There was a series of dealings with
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the American government and the fact is
that Georgio' s brother panicked. He
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doesn' t like this, he
feels lonely, he feels abandoned and he
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leaves. The only one crossing customs
is Georgio. The problem is that when
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he tells the guy the boring civil
servant who was scoring the names Georgio sadu,
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that man puts George sother and gives
him an immigration document and now he
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' s George Sothr He' s
a thirteen- year- old boy.
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By the way, he wasn'
t a very big guy, very fast.
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It moves is that it does.
It' s a very clever name,
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very diligent, very agile. So
first, the first thing you can
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think of is good. He who
speaks Italian and finds a place where someone
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speaks Italian and gives him some directions
to where he should go or then another,
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but over there he gives him other
directions. And that' s how
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he gets a job by handing out
newspapers. Then get a job as a
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messenger. Then he gets a job
bringing food to the railroad employees. Then
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he gets another job driving a truck
in a coal mine near Fiat Ville.
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So he likes this place. In
fact, he loves it It' s
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great driving very soon. He'
s not just a driver, he'
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s got his first truck. It
must have been a very old horn year
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truck, but he' s delighted
with this. Some time later life goes
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on. When in a thousand nine
hundred twenty or so, he discovers the
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love of his life, he does
not hesitate to marry for a minute.
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This is Jenny Jenishi Priannie, also
an immigrant. She' s a Linda
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girl. They fall in perfect love. Okay. It' s a thousand
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nine hundred and twenty a. There' s not much falling in love.
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The reality is that George is asking
for a marriage Jenny because she needs a
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wife, she needs a family.
There really wasn' t much of a
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crush, but Jenny' s a
pretty girl and besides, she' s
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a very hard- working woman.
Also together, George and Jenny, in
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a short time they are driving several
trucks. She takes care of administrative matters,
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payments fees. He takes care of
driving a truck, he has another
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with a driver, he has another
with another driver and they start growing very
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soon. They' re already building
their own house. It is a good
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house, because in those good years, the children that God commands are the
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ones that are received. So good, when in a thousand nine hundred and
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twenty- three the first is born. That no longer stops and is an
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important number of children. The one
they have. In fact, there are
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ten children over a period of twenty
years. That' s ten kids.
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No one dies of illness, because
Jenny Jenichi Prianni, the wife of George
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Sother, is incredibly careful. No
lack of medicine, no lack of care,
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no lack of attention. The kids
go to church, they have to
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learn from it. They go to
school too, they go here too,
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they go there too. It'
s a very, very prosperous family.
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George himself is a man integrated into
his community. He' s a coal
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transporter. Those trucks are for transporting
coal and work with the local mines.
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He is also prosperous as a member
of the community as well Sometimes he is
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a volunteer firefighter, sometimes he is
part of the city council, sometimes,
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when there is no other, he
has even had to be a policeman.
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It' s not that it'
s an obligatory charge, just your honorary
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charge. But when you are not
doing all that, you are working very
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hard and when you are not carrying
some of the little ones, because even
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when at that time and you will
not let me lie if you remember the
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stories of grandfather, at that time
you did not used to be very affectionate.
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Parents used to be distant, severe
energetic, an example of neatness.
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But George, George, came here
as a child. So you really are
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still a very cheerful person. Jenny, for her part, works very hard.
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The eldest son for a thousand nine
hundred forty- five is a soldier.
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Yes, George didn' t have
to go to war, but his
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eldest son, aged twenty- two, had to go to war. He
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' s a soldier and he'
s on the front line, but fortunately,
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nothing' s happened to him.
Jenican, when he pronounces his son
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' s name, keeps persigning himself
a little to ask for him. And
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after that the list is very long
and ends with the smallest, the little
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girl named Sylvia of two years.
So there' s a 20- year
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- old and there' s a
little girl of just two. It is
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a prolific family for one thousand nine
hundred forty- five. In addition,
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one of the marion daughters is employed
in a shop right there, at fiet
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Ville, she' s doing well. She is also a very hardworking girl
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and is charming, so charming that
when she gets paid her salary close to
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Christmas she goes and buys gifts for
the little ones. For the older ones,
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not anymore, but for the little
ones, yes, everyone gets some
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little stuff and everything is ready.
The nine hundred and forty- five Christmas
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dinner must have been a very pleasant
time, because George had been working during
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the day, but in the middle
of the day everything stops. Jenny'
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s got a special dinner set up. There' s no family. Don
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' t lose sight of the fact
that you' re both Italian immigrants.
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Their families are there in neither Italy. George never saw his family Jennitch and
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Piriani again, much less. The
fact is, it' s just them,
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but there' s a lot of
them. So sit down at the
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table. And that' s a
scandal, because they' re Italians.
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So, suddenly Jenny Screams and Manotea
and Count This and Manotea and the others.
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It' s a Tremenda lizard.
It' s a nice family.
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George can sometimes be a little radical, radical in the sense that he has
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an opinion of life and there is
no one to move it. He'
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s 50 years old, he'
s got to come out of the bottom
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alone, from deep down. He
came here with nothing and now he'
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s a distinguished member of the Hidepell
Society No one owes anything he buys.
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He pays when he asks for something. Pay for it. So he is
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a fairly respected man, but he
has this rude character of a man who
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was made by force of blows.
That is very clear. For example,
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when an insurance salesman came to offer
him insurance and after discussing this, that
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poor insurance salesman became dizzy from the
scolding he put on him. Good friend
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George. It was a strange moment. George was very decomposed because that guy
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ended up telling him that his house
was going to burn and that he would
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regret not buying insurance. That was
absurd. But in addition, they had
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had this annoying discussion about Mussolini,
Benito Mussolini, the duche, the dictator
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who was in Italy and who was
ally of Hitler and who was murdered in
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a very ugly way and that there
were very ugly things around him. For
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George Sodel, Mussolini was a tyrant
and made this known to everyone. In
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fact, when I was arguing with
the seller, who also turned out to
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be Italian, they ended up telling
each other things about Mussolini. The seller
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told him that he was a jerk
and Mussolini was a hero and he replied
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that Mussolini was a tyrant and a
bastard and bonus were made of words that
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man left. That was the kind
of thing he used to say and,
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of course, when he went to
town and there was something or he was
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going to have a drink with friends, he wasn' t a drunk,
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no, but yeah. Eventually he
came to the village and took a drink
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while he spoke in Italian with the
other Italians and had no trouble letting go
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of some of his political opinions,
even within the United States, to express
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his opinion about the United States itself. That' s very delicate in that
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country, but life goes on and
now it' s December 24th, Christmas
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Eve. All that has been left
behind and the eyes of the children shine
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with joy. When Marion, the
girl of about seventeen, the anger,
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the eldest daughter, pride is a
pretty girl, she begins to take out
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the little gifts that she has brought
them. Of course Jenny, Mom Jenny,
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has also compared gifts for everyone.
There' s no shortage of money.
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They' re tidy, but there' s no shortage of money.
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Besides, they' ve made some
arrangements for the house. Everything' s
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fine. The dinner must have been
very nice at about ten o' clock
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at night, after having had dinner, after having given a little hugs with
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a little present he has, George
decides to go up to rest. He
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' s tired. Finally, he' s a man who at four in
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the morning. Every day he'
s standing up for a while later,
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the boys are still downstairs. Mom
Jenny, who also gets up at four
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in the morning and is very tired, decides to go up to rest,
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but those boys are very happy and
ask her to please not send them to
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sleep, to allow them to stay. Marion, the 17- year-
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old girl' s out there with
you. Mom Jenny accepts on the only
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condition that when they go to sleep, they turn off the lights and close
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the door, that is, they
lock the door with very simple conditions.
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That' s where Moris, who' s 14, Fortachón Luis, nine
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years old, stays. Betty,
who' s five years old, stays
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too. Little Jenny who' s
eight and martens twelve, Marion' s
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gonna take care of them. She' s the 17- year- old
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girl. Well, the little two- year- old gets in Mom'
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s arms and goes to sleep.
It must have been ten thirty at night.
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I don' t think it was
more like 12 or 12: 30
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at night. Hard to tell,
but the phone rings. Yeah. It
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' s a house that has electric
power and a telephone is a thousand nine
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hundred forty- five. It'
s a modern family. Even though they
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live a little far from Firedville.
They are not within the city itself,
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but a little far away in the
Boscosa area there is a telephone. So
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the phone rings and it rings and
it keeps ringing. Mom. Jenny gets
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up from where she is, walks
up the stairs. Downstairs. The house
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is large and has one of these
beautiful stairs and the phone is close to
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the entrance of the house. Over
there, in Star' s living room,
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he picks up the phone and answers
the voice he hears is totally unknown
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to him. At the bottom of
that call you hear an atmosphere of partying,
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screaming, laughing, some music.
The person who called you is a
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woman who asks about a person Jenny
has never heard of and has never heard
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of either. In Firetville keep in
mind that there are 1, 480 inhabitants.
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Anyone would know anyone' s name, but the person who' s
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looking for that woman doesn' t
know her. When Jenny mom, Jenny
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says she doesn' t know who
she' s talking about. That voice
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utters a series of improper and mocking
laughter. Mom Jenny hangs up the phone,
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returns to her room, but before
climbing the ladder or surprise, Marion
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is sleeping on a sofa She approaches
and puts her box of pictures because her
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winter or does not lose sight that
it is cold. After that he turns
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around to Rays, the curtains are
open. Go and close the curtains.
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After that he realizes that the door, the door was not locked. Rays
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goes and puts the key to the
tired door, half- disclosed, turns
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off the lights and goes up to
his room without repairing that the boys are
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no longer there, because these five
boys sleep upstairs in the Attic there are
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two rooms there and in one sleep
the girls and in one of the boys.
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The truth is that Jenny must have
given a little laziness, must have
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felt a little laziness, to go
up even further to check that everyone was
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sheltered, so she better go and
lie down and very quickly sleeps the cold
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in the environment, the blankets,
the warm bed there in the middle of
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George and of her is the little
two- year- old silvia. So
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the place is warm, turns around
and sleeps, but something wakes her up
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a while later. It must not
have been past one in the morning,
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because he was just falling asleep when
he heard something fall on the roof of
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his house and roll, then something
else hits on the roof of the house
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and rolls. After this she hears
another sound again and something that rolls she
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wonders if it will be some animal, something that is falling from the trees.
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Note that there are trees around.
Maybe Snow doesn' t pay so
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much attention and falls asleep again.
But a while later it must not have
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been much time. When she starts
coughing and coughing, she joins in because
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she misses that and feels a horrible
itch in her nose and throat. And
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when it turns, it doesn'
t lose sight of this detail. When
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turned on, the lamp lights the
lamp on and the room is full of
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smoke. Do you immediately start screaming, George? Wake up George? Wake
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up? Look smoke over fire?
He starts screaming at the time when George
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has woken up, joined, takes
the two- year- old girl in
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his arm and runs out of there
as Gris screams all out, all out,
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there' s fire, fire,
fire. When they get down,
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Marion, who was lying down,
has woken up from the screams and soon
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another of the boys, George,
who was out there, has also heard
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the screams and runs out. George
had not stayed with the little ones playing,
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but had gone up to sleep and
his room is next to the parents
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' room. So it comes out
fast when they' re out. Immediately,
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George gives Silvia, to her mother, sees that she is also there
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these three little people. Marion,
four well I go for the others because
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they' re not dating. George. This Italian. Georgeo comes running back
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to his house, which is on
fire. Everywhere, he enters the house,
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but the fire does not let him
pass. The ladder' s on
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fire. You can' t cross
the fire. When he comes out he
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tries to enter Now on the other
side, he breaks a window, tries
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to get in, he tires his
arm, he cuts the other, he
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cuts his face, he gets to
a point in the kitchen where the fire
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burns him, his face, his
hair, his eyebrows, everything, but
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he can' t cross. He' s running back to find his ladder.
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George is very orderly. It always
has the ladder and more in winter,
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because in winter you have to go
up that ladder to remove snow.
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But when he gets to the place
where the ladder is always, he'
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s gone. There' s no
way up there to rescue the kids sleeping
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upstairs. But he' s not
a man with limited resources. So he
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thinks about it quickly and without hesitation
he runs to where one of his trucks
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is, tries to kick him out, walk to move him, paste the
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box to the top of the truck
and from there climb but the truck doesn
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' t start, doesn' t
start. Then another one of the trucks
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jumps, but it doesn' t
turn on either. The last one doesn
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' t turn on either. George' s trucks were in perfect condition in
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an incredibly careful man and just a
while before he had accommodated the trucks.
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Before they went to dinner, the
drivers arrived and left. The ice truck
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was checking and putting them in a
garage where it protected them from winter to
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start the next morning. No one
starts desperate, comes running back and tries
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to throw water something. The eldest
daughter Marion has run to a neighbor'
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s house from where she tries to
call the firemen, but no one answers
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for more than the operator' s
mark. There' s no answer from
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another neighbor who' s seen the
fire in the distance, but the fire
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chief doesn' t know how to
drive and there' s no one to
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drive. So you can' t
go. Immediately some neighbors begin to arrive,
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but the fire is already ending the
house. It' s a terrible
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scene. The hugged fire is a
wooden house, so it has embraced it
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quickly and in forty minutes before they
give three in the morning the house is
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totally fallen. The only thing left
standing is the stone chimney and the throwing
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of the foundations and rubble everywhere.
At about eight o' clock in the
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morning the firemen arrive. Imagine,
you and the police manage to turn off
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a little bit of here and there, but there' s nothing else.
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The search begins there for the remains. Clean that up. Mom, Jenny
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' s destroyed. George Sother is
destroyed. The children are all very nervous
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about the horror of what they have
experienced. They' re staying at the
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house of some acquaintances in Fide Ville. George doesn' t understand what happened.
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The investigation would be a minor requirement, i e, of the chief
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of police. It was evident that
an electrical failure had caused a fire and
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the fire had burned the house and
the boys had died upstairs because they had
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not been able to be rescued.
The fire chief agreed that' s what
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had happened. For the day of
January one thousand nine hundred and forty-
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six accidental death certificates are issued by
fire of the five boys. When George
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Sother comes back to ask the chief
of police, he insists that the cause
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of the fire was probably an electrical
failure and that' s where everything else
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was generated. George then insists,
please give us the bodies of our children,
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with the idea that the firemen had
perhaps recovered the burned bodies to give
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them burial, so that they could
give them a Christian burial. Mom Jenny
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demands the same thing that, please, they hand over the children' s
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bodies. But the fire chief ends
up accepting that there is no body,
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that the fire was so strong that
they disintegrated. It' s a brutal,
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brutal blow, they won' t
even have a body to bury anything.
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They had prepared some graves, had
prepared everything, thinking that the firefighters
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would rescue some remains, something,
but the fire chief, with that stupid
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look that he had always had and
that absolute incompetence of not knowing how to
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drive as head of fire, replies
that they did not recover anything, that
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there was nothing there, because the
fire was so strong that it burned everything
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and ended with the bodies. George
is so destroyed that he leaves the place,
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but do not lose sight that he
is an immigrant who made his way
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alone so he decides to pass on
one of his many trips, in one
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of the nearby large communities, to
fiet Ville, there is a funeral agency.
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And in that funeral agency there'
s a crematory oven, so he
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stops the truck down and asks the
crematorium oven operator what turns out to be
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an Italian and who knows him after
the different signs of grief for the loss
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of the children. George is encouraged
to ask how the cremation works, and
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that man explains to him that a
human body goes into the oven, closes,
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turns on the oven and that it
takes about two hours for it to
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burn completely. George, that immediately
clicks two hours and insists two hours.
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Yeah, two hours to burn all
the meat, fat and so on.
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But then the remains have to be
ground. George is amazed. The remains,
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yes, of course, after incinerating
it, still give large fragments of
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bone. George feels a chill,
but not because of what that man is
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describing to him, which is eschatological
and terrible, but because he is telling
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him a key word. They have
to be ground, that is, remains.
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So he insists again. Explain to
me how they are and explain to
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him that fragments of the skull,
large jaw bones, must be put together
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and those that have not been fractured
by the heat, by the bursting of
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the marrow. That' s right, you have to grind them, but
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there' s plenty of bones left. George asks again many, many like
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how many, and that man already
a little surprised, tells him why you
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ask me, but he answers.
Please tell me how many, to which
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he replies that well, are left
the heads of the femurs, that give
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the upper part of the elbows,
the clavicles, the large bones that have
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no contents and that are fragmented in
half. He then explains that all the
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phalanges are difficult to destroy and that
there is usually a good part of the
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jaw and skull fragmented into pieces.
What else does George want to know at
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what temperature that happens between one thousand
four hundred and one thousand eight hundred per
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mere. Casuality you know how much
wood burns six hundred. George had also
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been part of the fire team and
when you hear what this man is saying,
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you obviously understand that what Fairedvill'
s fire chief said makes no sense
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back. They' ve rented another
house. Where to be. The movement
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of the trucks continues like this.
It' s that well, you have
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to work, but when you confront
your wife you tell her about the open
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discovery. In that place, the
woman freaks out and says well, there
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must be remains somewhere, but besides, she has done her own research.
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Yes, not even Chipriani is also
a woman who survived everything one can imagine
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as an immigrant. He escaped the
mafia networks. I had arrived in New
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York first. Imagine a beautiful young
girl in the middle of a city full
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of mobsters. He had alluded to
that, he had managed to overcome himself,
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he had worked and finally had a
family and this happens to him.
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He looked into it. The first
question is whether there is a short,
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i e a faulty electrical wiring.
There would be light the employee who asks
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that he is a technician in electricity, answers no. If one of the
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cables in the house had failed and
started to be so and sparks come out
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and overheat and burn, most likely
the entire installation would fail. And how
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is it that when you wake up
by coughing on the basis of smoke and
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light the lamp the lamp turns on, but even more so when you are
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outside the house and it is burning
wildly, the two lights of the porch
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are lit. How that could have
happened makes no sense. George decides with
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his workers to return to the house
and find nothing. At first. Indeed,
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there is nothing. There' s
no remains. There is a feeling
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of distress that was described many years
later by one of the daughters, as
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the worst moment of these two'
s life. If there' s anything
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terrible, it' s losing a
son so terrible he doesn' t even
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have a name. An orphan has
no parents, no widower, no wife,
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no widow, but a father without
children does not even have a name.
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And in this case there was something
else. I had lost the children,
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but they weren' t even desperate. He insists again, but the
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police have told him not to case
closed. He manages to do two or
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three things for himself. I repeat
that he is a man of resources,
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he is an intelligent man. So
he starts going to the media at the
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time to the newspapers. He has
several photographs of the boys who are published
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and begin to arrive letters There is
a particular letter that draws attention harshly.
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It' s a letter from a
woman who thought she saw an unknown car
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that morning with five boys in the
back seat and two adult people in front.
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This woman knows the Soders and she
thought they were kids. Soder can
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' t give any more data.
He thought they were heading north, but
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he can' t say it clearly. A short time later. There is
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another matter that attracts attention and this
is an acquaintance of George, a bus
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driver truck driver, who that night, at some point in the morning,
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as he returned to Fireville, observed
something that became very strange to him.
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He saw some kind of spheres of
light or fire falling on the roof of
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the Soder house. At first he
thought it was the boys, knowing that
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at home there are young people who
are not exactly five years old, there
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was one of fourteen, one of
sixteen. Maybe he thought it was the
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boys, playing with some sort of
Christmas object and he didn' t pay
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attention to it. But when the
fire broke out, this guy claimed to
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have seen from the road that crosses
below the Soders' house these spheres of
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fire. The chief of police insists
that this is very subjective. But the
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third report also draws attention because it
comes from a waitress who the next morning
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claims to have served breakfast to five
boys about fifty miles away from Fitville.
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In the place where this happens.
She can' t say if there were
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two or three adults she doesn'
t know. What he does know is
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that there were five boys who fit
the ages pretty much. The car didn
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' t see him. After that, the next report would be about two
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hundred and fifty miles. From there
in a hotel, an employee claimed to
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see a family arrive. The family
had the characteristics of the missing sodern boys
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and at least four adults. With
all this information, George pleads with the
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police to help him. The chief
of police and the head of state don
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' t think there' s much
to investigate, but he' s continuing
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his campaign and he' s still
fighting. Time has passed. You don
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' t think all this happens very
quickly. The time has passed and he
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has even ordered a fence to be
placed in the lower part of the house,
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near the road to one side where
the pictures of the boys are and
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offers a reward of five thousand dollars
to those who give reliable information, but
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beyond that he even offers ten thousand
dollars. The searches continue and George manages
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to get state experts to come,
who will check the remains of the house
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and, indeed, find no bones, but have no clue. Days later,
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in another investigation, they found a
piece of meat that turned out to
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be a piece of meat belonging to
a cow' s liver. He doesn
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' t lose sight of me seeing
it been in winter. The amazing thing
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is that it was very burnt,
but it was there how the bodies of
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five children had disappeared. There were
no answers and so it went on for
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a long time. He continued to
insist on all media nationwide, sending photos,
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letters, until finally Jay Edgar Hoover, the director of the FB,
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ordered them to intervene considering the possibility
of an interstatal kidnapping. The FEB and
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American research lasted two years. Over
the course of these two years, FBI
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agents followed every possible lead, every
single mark that appeared around here. But
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he knows something. They didn'
t find a single rest. The peritors
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themselves checked the people in fB and
checked the place and found some vertebrae,
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human vertebrae from a human back.
Several years had passed. Don' t
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lose sight of that. George hadn' t built the house again. I
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had done another to leave that there
and they could investigate and investigate and find
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some. But these vertebrae did not
correspond. These were old vertebrae. They
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had not been burned, but were
on the ground on earth. There was
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a possibility that he would have been
taken to fill the earth foundations of some
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place where there was an old burial. It wasn' t something I had
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to hide, much less. It
was an old affair. But they didn
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' t find the boys' remains. But they didn' t find any
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solid leads either. The clues pointed
in all directions. George would continue to
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search for skies, sea and earth, periodically, publishing advertisements periodically sending letters
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to the different media at the time, but they would never find it.
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George sick tired for nine hundred and
sixty- eight does not let down guard
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Jennitchi Prian and his wife goes on. The children are already elderly people,
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even John, the greatest, who
in the forty- five was a soldier.
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Now he is a man made and
right, and he asks them to
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stop doing this, to accept his
resignation. The Sons died there in that
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fire, but George is convinced that
it was not so. In nineteen hundred
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and sixty- eight they receive an
enigmatic letter. It' s coming from
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somewhere in Kentucky. It has no
address, it doesn' t say sender,
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but it' s a photograph of
a young Italian- looking, curly
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black hair. When Jenny, Mom
Jenny, sees the picture, the first
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thing she says is Heaven is my
son referring to dying. He' s
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my son and he shows him the
letter. He' s my son without
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having read what came in the back
of the photo. In the back of
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the photo, a series of information
came a little strange because I said I
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love my brother Luis and then some
numbers came like some kind of key.
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Not this letter. No. No. No. He didn' t have
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much data, he didn' t
have much information, except he said the
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name of George' s son.
The letter was sent. There was an
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attempt to codify what it meant,
which it didn' t mean During this
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time, George had become a very
expert man. Twenty- three years had
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passed. He had become an expert
in finding clues, meeting people, meeting
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detectives, hiring detectives, and calling
back an old acquaintance a lot. It
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' s been said he was a
jerk who ran away with the money.
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No, that' s not true. George had met a private detective,
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a trusted man, had helped him
for some time and had always returned.
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In that one thousand nine hundred and
sixty- eight. This was a strong
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lead. There was a feeling in
Jenny that this was her son. The
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detective took the picture, took the
data and went to look for it.
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He never came back. He never
returned home or to his office. Nowhere.
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He didn' t show up anywhere
when he was reported missing. He
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never showed up. Like the boys, the detective had vanished forever. George
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would die about a year later.
Jenny would go on with the search until
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her own death. In the eighties
already made a very old woman, an
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old woman, kept periodically asking for
the intervention, asking for the search.
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At least some remains that could be
tested would have been found attesting to where
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the children had ended up. You
never knew what happened to them. They
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missed that Christmas night. What'
s clear is that they weren' t
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there. During the following years different
experts, experts from different university disciplines entered
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into a kind of heated discussion about
whether a human body would actually disintegrate in
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those conditions, considering that the little
ones' body that thinner, lighter probably,
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but there was a boy of fourteen
one out of twelve were in the
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upper part on a freezing night.
The blankets are usually not so flammable,
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they were not synthetic fabrics. So
it was complicated for some fire experts.
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The bodies should have been there charred, perhaps turned into some kind of black
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mass, but identifiable as human bodies. There were some evidence of much more
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violent fires where the fire had taken
two or three hours and bodies were recovered.
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This had not happened here. Within
what had recovered from the rubble there
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were also some figures that had not
disintegrated from ceramics, There were some plates,
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There were also some elements of wood
that had not been completely burned,
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how it was that five bodies had
disappeared until the eighties. The question remains
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and the discussion would end there when
it was established that it was difficult to
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believe that something else had disappeared.
What happened to them. Well, there
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had been several previous incidents. The
first of them was an employee, a
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job seeker went looking for George to
apply for a job. He was Italian.
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This had happened perhaps at the beginning
of a thousand nine hundred and forty
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- five. The subject had probably
just arrived fugitive from Italy, a former
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soldier, probably someone who had had
to do with the Mussolini regime and who
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came to ask for work. During
the conversation he had had with George,
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they had had a confrontation on the
subject of Mussolini. George was completely opposed
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to Mussolini, but that subject gave
him the impression that it was a brown
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shirt, that is, someone who
had been with Mussolini and seeing that the
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war was lost had fled. He
didn' t hire him, but that
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guy ended up telling him how dangerous
a fire is on his wires. Even
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though the house was quite recent.
The installation had been made recently. That
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guy turned out strange. He disappeared
without saying anything else. George wasn'
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t gonna hire him. Then there
was the weird incident, that of the
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insurance salesman. It all coincided in
a very macabre way, because that guy
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came telling him that he had been
recommended to come to see him because he
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would need insurance. Just in case
there was a fire in his house.
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This had a lot to do with
the guy I had talked to. It
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was weird. Why did they come
to offer George insurance in this place,
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away from fayet Ville, telling him
a fire from his house. But also,
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it all happened because at that time
they were coming back to the kids
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at school and that guy said he
wouldn' t like to see his kids
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dead, really burned in a fire. Why don' t you make sure
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and start later you fell into that
discussion about Mussolini. Again Mussolini, George
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ended up telling him enough, I
don' t want anything to get away
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that guy threatened him by telling you
to remember me when his children and his
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house burn and disappeared in a car
that was down two days before Christmas.
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When he returned from work with the
truck, he could see an unknown car
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parked on a curve. A little
before the house. There was a press
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inside. He didn' t know
all this told the police, but it
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didn' t do any good.
It wasn' t good enough to write
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a clue for something. He didn' t even keep the name of the
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insurance salesman. He didn' t
register it, he didn' t want
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to buy anything, he wasn'
t going to keep any cards or anything.
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One of the theories that would arise
there from all these testimonies was revenge,
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a political revenge. George had often
outsourced his opposition to Mussolini' s
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regime in front of many acquaintances,
and perhaps a vengeance from some Mussolini supporters
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who had come to the United States
fleeing the war. Do not lose sight
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of the fact that there were Italian
military contingents who went to fight at the
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front, at the front with the
Germans, at the Russian front and ended
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up defeated in horrible ways and many
fled knowing that the Russians were already coming,
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knowing that the Americans were already in
Sicily. They ended up running away
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disguised as something else, but they
fled and have probably arrived in the United
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States, if it was delicate.
But there is also another very big possibility,
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the mafia, the Italian mafi,
although Fiadville was a very safe place
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where there was no such thing.
George was a man who was traveling with
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trucks loaded with coal all the time
and was a very visible man, very
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prosperous in other communities where he was
carrying the coal, it is very likely
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that if there had been a mafia
and they had tried to extort it,
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being a tough man like George,
he would have refused and this would have
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been his revenge that so- called
insurance salesman. He was actually a mob
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envoy who was studying the house and
was studying the family to see how he
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threatened him. Any of the options
were possible. Come on There was in
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the seventies a madman who said they
had been abducted, but the question is
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what had happened, how they had
been taken out. See you had in
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the bottom six people, the oldest
was 17- year- old Mariom,
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who was looking after the others.
Then I followed one of fourteen, one
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of twelve. They weren' t
kids who were easily dominable. They would
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have made noise they would have shouted
and a few meters away was the room
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with the parents' open door they
would have heard something like it, that
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they had been taken out without anyone
noticing, but even more without Mario herself,
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in which she slept on the sofa, would have found out. One
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of the possibilities that a theory pointed
out was that the boys would have heard
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something that caught their attention outside the
house and would have gone out to see
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what it was all about while Marion
was golden. Being outside, they would
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have been kidnapped and taken for what
or why. It' s not clear.
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00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:12.119
The search in the United States was
very extensive for a long time and
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00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:15.719
nothing was found. There are those
who point out that they were most likely
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taken to the coast and taken to
Italy as a mob revenge, but at
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some point these guys would have been
able to communicate, they were not babies
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00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:35.079
and that never happened. Today,
some are theorists of this subject hold a
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much sadder end. Yes, the
boys were abducted by kidnappers, by the
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mob, by business opponents, by
political enemies. Whatever you want, they
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were killed and buried in unnamed clandestine
graves. What worse punishment than never knowing
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what happened to your children. To
you, what do you think good and
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00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:22.440
after such a gruesome account like this, what do you think if we send
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some greetings and congratulations to lighten the
atmosphere Cecilia RodrÃguez. She' s at
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Carol Highland Elementary School in Maryland,
in the United States, and she hasn
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' t written a most beautiful email
that we thank her very much. We
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are very proud that they have such
high esteem for us. We sent him
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a big hug in the middle of
winter. So far I also have the
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birthday of Gabriela Pérez MartÃnez and the
birthday of Pablo César Campos, sources that
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fulfill years near this date. So
double congratulations, congratulations on Christmas and congratulations
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on birthday, a strong hug.
And here too we have some thanks that
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are important to us. These thanks
are to the people who collaborate with the
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channel making donations throughout the videos.
In the bottom part a little heart appears
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with a sign of weights and it
is a way to make contributions to support
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the channel and we greatly appreciate it. So our enormous thanks go to Ezequiel
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Valerius, to Orian Liff to Ricardo
Montelongo, who is all the way across
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the world in New Zealand. Thank
you very much, Ricardo, for always
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keeping an eye on us. Mireya
González Betti, Sais Raúl Jiménez for Patrick
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Rosas, unconditional friend of this channel, Luis Miranda, Salvador GarcÃa, Adriana
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Realle, Carlos RodrÃguez and Juan Lozano, all of them people who help us
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move on. We send them a
big hug and now some greetings. Emmanoem
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campbell, to whom we always send
a greeting, because Ramon Alvarado, his
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wife and grandchildren, who are in
California, are always waiting. Oscar Lobo
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is a Honduran, but he'
s in the United States. We understand
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that. We wish him well that
he will find prosperity in that country and
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that he will be able to help
his people who have remained in Honduras.
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Monica Vallejos and her husband, Helmuth
Toledo, are in Chile, in the
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southern cone of the American continent,Ãngel Escobedo and her boyfriend, Gregorio,
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who are in Oregon, in the
north of the United States, that is,
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point to point, Leonardo, Benjamin
and Gisel, who makes props and
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00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:39.960
armors while listening to us hears what
father. We have some very nice ones
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that we love, because they are
objects that decorate very well any space for
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Crono Gremory, the Ruiz Hu family
that are in San Nicolás de los Garza,
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in Monterrey, Nuevo León Wow,
a very beautiful place, by the
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way, MarÃa del Carmen SolÃs GarcÃa
and his daughter Araceli, who are in
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Campeche, in the Gulf of Mexico, also a very beautiful place Yajaira Romero,
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who always listens to us. Thank
you very much, thank you all
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for joining us tonight. We hear
ourselves very soon good night and rest in
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peace or we give s







