Cementerios y fantasmas ||Relatos del lado oscuro (Podcast)

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It' s always interesting to hear
these strange stories from small places, these

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crazy stories from stories from every cemetery, it' s always very attractive.

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For years I have had the opportunity
to talk with people in many areas,

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from people from the countryside, people
from the city, people who teach,

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people from very different professions paint,
and I have always liked listening to ghost

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stories. They represent a part of
social belief. It is an interesting phenomenon,

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but, on the other hand,
it also has a whole trajectory of

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myths that also becomes very attractive in
the stories of women crying in cemeteries.

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They are very good and there are
stories of all kinds from the dark side,

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beings, strangers, events, inexplicable, reversities, stories that other minds

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prefer to ignore. You say that
a few years ago, talking with some

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people from the region of Izúcar de
Matamoros, here in the State of Puebla,

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they told us a history of a
cemetery. They said that during the

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funeral of one of their relatives they
had to wait for a subject of an

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expert opinion or something similar, making
the process prior to the handing over of

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the body and everything a little longer. The fact is, well, they

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had to meet certain requirements. In
addition, it seems that it did not

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reach one of the relatives who were
waiting for it to arrive from the United

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States for the tragic event, and
this was causing time to become longer in

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a normal cemetery in a big city. Obviously, they would not have had

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the opportunity, but in the case
of a remote region, of a small

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population, there was not much setback
in which they did. He fought in

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the evening, in what came the
box, in what came the relative coming

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from the United States, in what
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' t know where. Finally they
gave ten o' clock at night and

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were still in the cemetery after some
time of that strange adventure of being in

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a cemetery during the night. Well, they started to feel kind of uncomfortable,

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and that' s when they suddenly
noticed that they weren' t the

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only ones. There was another person
and they said that in one of the

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tombs that was a little higher up, there was a woman sitting in a

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common attitude, a lady sitting in
a tomb among the attendants began to realize

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and some of them commented with another
hear. This is so weird. A

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lady you know, no, I
don' t know who she is.

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I can' t tell from here
dark at night. The cemetery has a

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few lamps that some municipal president was
kind enough to put in, but it

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' s the only thing at some
point. One of the gravediggers of the

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men in charge there already finished doing
what he had to do. And someone

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asks you to listen and here come
at night people to some celebration. The

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answer was that yes, that eventually
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sails as is the Mexican custom,
but nothing more. Then they asked her

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about the lady who was looking over
there who was sitting in one of the

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tombs, to which she replied emphatically
that no, that there was no one,

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ma' am, but that it
was common for them to see her.

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Yeah, days go by. These
people stayed that night, they were

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very uncomfortable with the idea. Obviously, the days pass and when they have

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to return for the novenario and for
all that related to the funeral, they

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show up or in the morning time
and for not leaving said to this person

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that they went to see the tomb
and the tumbra of a woman, of

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a woman dead in nineteen hundred and
seventy- six, at twenty- eight

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years old, the subject was interesting
because during another talk that they had had

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time afterwards, someone else knew of
that woman had died from outside tragic rma

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had died, besides leaving a offspring
of children, several children and many people

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had seen her on some nights sitting
in her grave as waiting for someone.

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There' s no longer story.
Obviously, he' d lend himself to

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investigating what happened to the husband and
whether the husband wasn' t there or

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whether he was there. But they' re grave stories and that' s

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not the only one. If we
talk about graves or cemeteries, obviously those

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who would have the greatest evidence are
gravemen, but not necessarily. I'

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ve always said that cemeteries aren'
t exactly the best place to look for

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ghosts. They' re places where
people are predisposed to see things. We

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enter an environment that is not pleasing
to us, in an environment in which,

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besides we know that there are a
lot of corpses and we associate skeletons

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with death with ghosts. The reality
is that, if we listen to paranormal

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theories, the cemetery is not attractive
to an ingrained person or to a person

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who does not want to leave.
If we listen to these theories about death

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and fantasy, the central idea is
that people don' t leave because something

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attracted them here, for example.
They don' t want to leave because

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they kept a treasure, one of
the most classic versions. They don'

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t want to leave because they want
to stay with the woman or the beloved

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man. They do not want to
leave because there is a tragedy that has

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not been resolved, an injustice that
has not been resolved. They don'

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t want to leave because they panic, because they think they' re going

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to hell for a sin they couldn' t fix where all these people would

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be. If you tell us today
you have to go and we don'

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t want to leave, we'
ll probably find a suitable place. Someone

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looking for the woman or the beloved
man will want to be in the place

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where he was with that person.
He' s going to want to be

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in a place that was his own, that was safe for him. If

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I have a hidden treasure and after
death, I cannot leave because I want

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to take care of my treasure,
because I stay in the treasure and so

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on. The cemetery is not the
ideal place to look for souls in sorrow.

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They wouldn' t be there.
However, there is a collection of

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impressive phenomena. The irony is that
gravediggers and pantheon people, workers who,

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like any other person in a task, don' t tell so many stories.

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Rather they are a little reserved about
it and, above all, they

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are so used to living there that
it is not easy for them to confuse

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and see things. It is easier
than a common visitor like you or me,

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as we enter a holy field,
we begin to feel strange and suggest

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ourselves. But that there are good
stories, there are good stories. On

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top of this, there are some
very interesting things behind it. Years ago,

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an old man, by the way, told us a story about a

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cemetery in his village. The story
was of the popular domain, a town

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of queretaro over there and was also
well known. Everyone knew about that story,

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except for the locals. Of course, all the people knew of an

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old man, who was going to
the funerals. When someone was to be

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buried, this man appeared. Many
thought he was a municipal employee, because

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in addition, this began to happen
for a fairly long period of time and

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people began to notice it. The
neighbors, the people of that community,

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realized that there was an already large
man who when they were going to bury

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someone just came to stop there somewhere
nearby, not exactly where the sublet was

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going, but in a nearby area
and he was very attentive. There was

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no lack of one who had seen
that even during the blessing, when the

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priest was making the prayers, he
took off his hat. He was an

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older man, white hair, short
hair, dressed in black. Of course,

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a funeral doesn' t pay much
attention to things. One is thinking

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that the loved one has already left
in that you have to pay the expenses,

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in that you have to invite people
to eat rice and beans and have

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coffee or something. I don'
t know what' s stylized in every

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region. So little by little people
realized, but there would always be someone

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out there who would say, because
he has to be an employee. Not

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so frequent were the sepelios that would
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The holy field of a rural community
has a burial, because perhaps every twenty

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days, every month and they saw
this man coming out from somewhere and arriving

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there. The matter was going on
for some time. They even thought that

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he was an employee, that he
was someone who was approaching to rectify something,

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something until someone had the courtesy to
ask, in the small office that

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was at the entrance of the cemetery
who that person was. Just out of

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curiosity. There had been a tragic
moment when there had been several already very

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old people who had died consecutively and, in the meantime, Zepelian saw him

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again in each of the cepelians.
So someone went and asked forgiveness for the

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already large lord of black hat,
dressed in black, works here is part

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of the cemetery, not only out
of curiosity, but also for a little

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kindness to invite him to the food, because it was how he stretched himself

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ending. The cepelios invited all the
people who had attended the house where the

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wake had been made and so on. So, as they approached to invite

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the secretary and the man from the
minutes who was there in the booth,

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they had to ask him. The
answer was no. No. No.

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We don' t know of anyone
of those characteristics who works here and we

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know everyone has seen it. We' ve seen him too, but we

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don' t know who he is. The subject. It' s just

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that the person disappeared just like he
had appeared. When on some other occasion

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someone embalmed and wanted to see what
it was about, a rather unusual phenomenon

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occurred, but it is unusual for
humans, but common in us we have

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paranormals. As you approach the silhouette
or this image, it becomes less,

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become less dense, it becomes dim, you start to move away as if

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you were going towards the office and
it disappears. The phenomenon was quite tangible

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and quite visible at a certain distance. However, when this young man who

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is emboldened and wants to know what
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goes towards greys, towards grey tones, retracts, retracts and disappears. Who

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I was is a good question.
In that place there would be many people

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killed by appearance. It must have
been someone who lived in the 1930s in

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Mexico, no more at that time. It must have been someone big.

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One of the possible explanations is that
they would have buried a loved one there.

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Of the few cases in which it
would be granted for someone to ambulate

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as ghost fans in a cemetery would
be because there is one person who would

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have stayed there, buried someone loved
to be there and that would probably be

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the best reason to wander in one
more cemetery. Not the only clear one.

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In paranormal phenomena there is no single
explanation, let alone one behavior.

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But in this case they narrated that
Now is not always so apathetic, so

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far away the phenomenon. There are
times when phenomena can become disturbing, especially

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for people attending a funeral, since
it can become not only aggressive, but

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toxic. Yes, and this is
a rather more cruel phenomenon for those who

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have an extraordinary ability or a greater
ability to perceive things, that is,

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people who see dead, people who
perceive the already deceased often have problems in

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that sense. Years ago, talking
to a highly sensitive person, he told

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us several experiences. This lady,
from a very young age, began to

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have phenomena of perception of things that
others did not see. It was not

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strange to him to see people who
were there, but who the others could

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not see. On more than one
occasion he was surprised to note that no

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one paid attention to Aunt Juanita,
who was standing there by the door.

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And it turns out that Aunt Juanita
had died a few days ago and there

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the only one who knew that was
her. On several occasions, as she

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described us, of course, on
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told us, for example, scenes
of her childhood when she was sitting at

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the table talking to her grandfather,
suddenly the mother slapped her two times and

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raised her from the table. When
she asked why, the mother scolded her

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telling her not to talk nonsense that
her grandfather was dead. It' s

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been a long time since I was
talking to him and she answered Mom.

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But if my granny is at the
table and I was talking like that,

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things happened to him. He told
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had the opportunity to talk with her, he told us about events, some

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of them disturbing. For example,
on one occasion, she, being a

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teenager, was taken to the cemetery
on the occasion of the funeral of a

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family member, but as soon as
she reached the door of the municipal pantheon

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of Puebla she felt terribly uncomfortable,
terribly burdened, not knowing exactly why.

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Once it reaches the interior, the
situation becomes even worse, as it immediately

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perceives that there is someone there who, barely crossing the door, is approaching

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it quickly. There comes a point
at which she watches an older man standing

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next to her and obviously no one
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But that man breathes with difficulty or
makes a similar noise, he is terribly

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poor. It' s not corrupt, it' s not a corrupt corpse,

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let alone. It' s not
a mummy wrapped in a sheet or

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anything. Just an old man of
appearance, very poor standing next to her.

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She watches him, but she doesn' t want to say anything,

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she doesn' t want to do
anything at all. At some point.

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His despair is such that, without
saying a single word, he grabs and

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begins to walk towards the exit of
the Holy Field. The problem is,

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that thing is following her. This
man said she, a tall man dressed,

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very formal, in a grey shawl
suit. Completely his entire appearance was

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gray, regardless of whether anything in
real life would have had color at the

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time everything was gray- looking.
The gray skin is thin and follows it.

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She watches as she comes back.
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His first thought is blessed, God
already came out of this, no,

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unfortunately not for his misfortune and One
thing he would understand later is that when

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you see them it is because they
see you, he begins to walk home

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and realizes that that man comes after
her, turns around, returns and waits

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for him to go out to his
mother and his brothers, who were in

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the funeral. All the time,
that person is there. When they leave,

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they all get in a car and
leave. However, upon arriving home

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in the evening, she feels tremendous
discomfort. He doesn' t see it

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inside the house as such, but
he knows it' s there. It

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wouldn' t be until a point
in the early morning, when he wakes

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up very startling to realize that,
in the middle of the room he shared

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with his sister, there was this
guy. Over the next few days.

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That became a constant, but also
a constant despairing, since at home they

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believed that was the product of their
imagination, the product of a series of

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fantasies. To mention the subject would
have meant a good scolding, perhaps even

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having to take her to the doctor
to give her some pills and control her,

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a terrible thing. Suddenly, she, in the middle of the night,

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saw this man standing there suddenly at
noon, I would see him there

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suddenly when he arrived from school.
I was at the door. Suddenly when

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I went to school, I went
with her at some point to despair.

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Nes so he tries to ask why
he' s there. But what that

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man would have said was so strange
that it was not understood. So,

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she, desperate, yells at him
to leave, that he can' t

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do anything for him, that he
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She doesn' t quite understand what
she' s asking. After a while

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and after several interlocks or what you
of this nature ends up understanding that that

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man wants her to do something,
but he doesn' t know what.

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Desperate, she yells at him to
leave, begs him to leave, but

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that thing doesn' t go away. So it would take several weeks,

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during which time that character, that
man, continued there. The situation was

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dire because it could also appear at
any time however uncomfortable the time was and

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all I wanted was to tell him
to help something, but when he came

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to the subject he wanted to help, he could not understand what he wanted

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in his despair. Finally, she
talks to her mom, that mom,

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no matter how much you say she
doesn' t exist. If it exists,

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and I have it and I see
this and I see this and I

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see this, and I can tell
you that on the fulana date of such

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when you hit me for saying that
I was already talking to my grandfather,

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I had it in front of me
and it was like this and when I

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told you that Aunt Juanita was at
the door I saw her dressed up and

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so until the mother, in a
state of tremendous surprise, ended up realizing

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that it was true what I was
telling her. And then this girl back

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then a teenager tells her already.
Right now there' s a guy who

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followed me from the cemetery who doesn' t turn away, he' s

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dead. No one else sees it
this way than inside the house. I

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need someone to help me. Anyone
would' ve taken it out of their

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mind with this. Fortunately, the
mother knew a little secret that few people

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had shared with her and that Grandma
had the same thing. Grandma also had

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that bad habit of saying ay Mira
already died, your teo Gervacio because she

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just came to say goodbye. And
look, Aunt Gumercindita' s already dead.

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He just came to say goodbye and
so on. There was no solution

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at that time for that man to
return They went to see a known person

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who did clean jobs and that and
that and that helped them to return that

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man where he was and to stay
already through a series of branches, a

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series of things and with a series
of aids and prayers, finally it was

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again. But it wasn' t
unusual from there, when someone was suddenly

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close to going to the cemetery many
times it meant nothing when he had to

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go bring flowers to some relative,
to some well- known deceased. He

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did not necessarily find someone, but
he already knew that sometimes suddenly when turning

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Mrs Gordita who was walking back,
or Mr Major or the odd young man,

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they were not really alive and simply
had to let pass a moment and

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then start giving them light. Over
the years. He understood that there were

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a number of things that could be
done to help these people. Some of

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them had a long time, a
long time to be wandering, to be

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trapped. Others were just beginning and
were lost. The irony is that the

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same thing had happened to him entering
a museum, entering an old house,

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not necessarily the cemetery, but how
to make him good. She had a

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very peculiar practice. The first time
he spoke to them in peace, spoke

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to them calmly, prayed for them, asked for the presence of the Angels

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of Saints to help them follow their
path. He explained that they had to

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go to the great light, that
they would see, that they were not

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afraid, that it was the great
love, that it was the great forgiveness,

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that they could get out of here, etcetera, etcetera. And some

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of them agreed and felt clearly the
moment when someone was leaving even felt a

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great relief, but there were also
those others who did not want to leave,

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who were still engaged and foolish in
something. And to these, well,

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they ended up talking to them in
rude ways until they convinced them that

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some had to go away, others
just walked away at the end of the

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day. It was a tremendous experience, but not interesting. It was the

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description who could be in a grave, who could be in a cemetery.

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There were strange things too, but
in general, it was easier to find

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on the side of the road people
who had died and were still there to

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find them in the cemetery. This
subject of pantheons is very attractive for many

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things. First, because, well, people think that a place where there

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must be ghosts is a pantheon.
Well, no, it' s not

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true. It would be the other
way around, it' s a place

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where there would be little paranormal activity
derived from people taking root in a different

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way. If, for example,
someone has suffered a tragic road accident,

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he has suddenly lost his life without
being fully aware of his own death.

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He' s probably staying in that
place. This has been achieved through very

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rare things. Look it' s
not an exact science, it' s

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not a matter that is fully defined
and inalienable, but what has been identified

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is, for example, a person
who is in a state of crisis due

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to an accident that has been sudden. Someone who goes on a motorcycle at

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full speed and suddenly falls or crashes, has no chance of recognizing his own

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death. So, when after the
accident it gets up, it shakes the

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dust and says hush how close that
was to what a barbarity, nothing happened

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to me. If I' m
in one piece, I' ll wait

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a minute to see what' s
going on The thing here is that the

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minute is no such minute. A
person who has died completely loses the notion

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of time. Time ceases to be
the passing of hours, which is a

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physical measure derived from the turning of
the planet. Paranormal time or time beyond

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the current plane of existence where you
and I are. It is a time

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derived from one' s own will. It is a time when things happen,

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but there is no measure for time. The problem with this is that

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someone who stands waiting can be separated
waiting for the equivalent of hundreds of years

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or at least long enough for it
to be lost and cannot find a way

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out. So it' s not
an easy issue. But that person who

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has suffered the motorcycle accident shakes and
says Hufff' s lucky. Nothing happened

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to me. I' m gonna
wait a little while, and you'

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re gonna wait there, there,
where you are. But in addition,

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there is another interesting feature of this. According to some mediums and sensitive people

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who have had contact with already deceased
beings, with already deceased people. Another

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feature of this intermediate space between what
could be considered heaven and earth. Let

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' s call him heaven. There
will be those who call him the valhallab

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who call him the glory. Let' s call him heaven. A person

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who dies passes through this rare intermediate
stage, where everything is confusing, where

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everything is irregular and then comes a
moment of light and clarity and well,

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it is already going the other way. This rare space in the middle of

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timeless has unique features. One of
the things that has been talked about a

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lot when talking with sensitive people is
that those who have died and are there

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also have the possibility of moving.
Yes, they are acts of the will.

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The person has a very reduced will. His forms of perception have been

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limited to what he has, as
a memory, but he can move in

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those spaces. So, for example, that boy I' m telling you

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about who tragically dies in a motorcycle
accident all of a sudden for some cause,

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realizes that nothing happens where he is. You don' t know how

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long it' s been. It
doesn' t matter. It could have

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been a day, it could have
been a year, it could have been

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six months, when suddenly he says
I' m going to go to my

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house, he doesn' t even
know he' s dead. The dust

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has been shaken and he has thought
that Maravilla nothing happened to me what luck,

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huff but spent some time out of
some need, out of some anxiety.

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He says, well, I think
I' d better go home.

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That going home doesn' t require
walking home, it requires remembering where he

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was and he' s going to
be there. That' s another feature

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of this space that some call astral, et cetera. The movement does not

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depend on the attraction of moving,
but on the desire to be elsewhere.

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Now what are you going to find
who knows? You might find the house

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full of Flores, realize he'
s dead and then react and travel where

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he has to go. The other
is that he doesn' t realize anything

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and when he gets home, think
he' s lonely. This is quiet.

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Where are all I' m going
to wait for and then I can

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stand there, waiting for the next
fifty years. If at that point you

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decide to go to the kitchen to
have an eye, someone is likely to

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see you. If someone with enough
sensitivity gets there, he' s gonna

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see it, but he thinks he' s waiting for a little while,

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there' s no notion of time, so that' s why it'

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s unlikely anyone will go to the
cemetery after death. However, a very

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different fact would be, for example, the lord who leads to bury the

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woman of his life, the woman
of his entire life and that a few

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days later he will die himself will
be looking for that woman, he will

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go to the tomb to look for
her. That' s gonna be the

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presence they' re gonna meet there. Of course, unfortunately, there will

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also be another thing that usually happens
in pantheons, which are dark entities.

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They are not beings that have been
in a skin, they are not beings

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that have occupied a body in some
time, but they know that the people

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that go there are very susceptible,
very sensitive. They' re hurt,

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they' re hurt, they have
low protections. That' s what makes

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them so attractive by being there,
they' re going to find these people

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and, obviously, those dark presences
can be toxic and can also be very

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insistent. Fortunately, they do not
have the ability to come and go,

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just as I explained a moment ago, and this is all a clear theory.

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It' s not something that'
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That person who' s passed away, that motorcycle guy, who doesn

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' t know he' s dead
and wants to go home, is already

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going to be home, but that
doesn' t mean he can travel around

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the world. Not that person will
be able to go to places that he

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remembers specific that are important to him, if, for example, he suddenly

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wants to be in Paris to get
to know the Eiffel Tower. That'

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s not how it is. All
he can do is go to places that

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are important to him or that remind
him because he does it through the will.

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This in turn is a protection,
because that dark entity that is in

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the holy field, does not know
where to go. Unless there' s

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such a sensitive person to let them
follow her. Other people will feel very

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uncomfortable, they will suffer dizziness,
they will feel pulls, hair jerks,

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bites. But whatever' s there, it' s hardly going to be

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able to follow them because it'
s not in their information the place they

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' d have to go curious about. All this is not this issue of

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dark entities. Well they are in
many places, but at times it is

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an ideal place, since people arrive
in such a particular, emotional and particular

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condition as regards their personal defenses,
which are easy victims. It' s

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been my turn to talk to people, yes, of course. Recently,

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actually a person who had to attend
a cemetery had a very rare situation.

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This man narrated, he came in
not even one of the most mourners.

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I knew the deceased. He was
a friend of the family and attended the

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funeral. Being there, he began
to feel dizzy. A nice fresh morning,

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he started to feel dizzy, he
started to feel weird. He began

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to notice that something made him feel
very heavy. His first idea, obviously,

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is that maybe the sun, the
smell of the flowers and all this

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had caused him a feeling of dizziness
or something happened a while ago. He

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kept on doing that, but not
only did he spend some time, but,

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in addition, already finishing the celebration, as he walked out, he

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felt an extraordinary heaviness. He described
her as if she had a cart tied

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up and was pulling it. Lifting
feet was complicated, moving was complicated.

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No, he didn' t wake
up. He hadn' t been to

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the Velorio He didn' t feel
bad when he entered the cemetery. He

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was perfectly fine. A strong athletic
man. Suddenly you feel this weird feeling

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that you have heavy things, you
stop dry and it' s the moment

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when you perceive yourself as if you
were with something upstairs. He even has

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the clear picture that there' s
something hanging from him. When he turns

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around and tells one of his friends
he was there, he says hey,

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I feel really weird. I feel
like I have something on me. The

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friend tells him you got a dead
man. The man is told which one

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is dead. The dead don'
t come up to you, no,

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no, don' t wait for
that man. The friend begins to pray

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to him in front of him,
he plants himself, grabs his hands and

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begins to pray our father a bird
Mary, because the divine protection will cover

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you, that the Blood of Christ
will cover you, that I do not

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know how much, that the mantle
of the Virgin will cover you, etcetera,

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etcetera, etcetera? Then he begins
to give signs of the cross and

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various things to that of so many. When this man, the young friend,

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is suddenly praying to him lying there, he has the clear feeling as

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if suddenly someone here and here will
get off. That' s how it

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' s going to go down completely. Feel that strange relief that lets him

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breathe when he turns back. He
says he sensed something that he saw as

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if there was some kind of turbulence, like some sort of smoke bouquet,

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like a fading thing. He couldn' t tell any more. He didn

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' t see the hooded man,
he didn' t see the bony.

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He didn' t see any of
this. He just saw something like it

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moving like it was a small column
of moving smoke. Ending this, when

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you feel that you are already free, you can walk as if nothing runs

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away. When he realizes, he
comes after him the friend who prays still

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running to everything he gives him.
Being outside, when you already have a

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moment to breathe, he explains what
he felt. Of course, the friend

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tells you clearly you look like a
dead man. Obviously, the answer was

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unlikely to be a dead man.
There was something there and that' s

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how this is from the cemeteries stories
to. Wherever you go, you'

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re going to find him. Sometimes
you find very elegant things. Yes,

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for example, in the French pantheon
in Mexico City, it is a very

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elegant pantheon. High personalities of the
Mexican public, business people, is an

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elegant pantheon. There was what one
of the guards described some time ago.

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I saw this on a television show
in the competition, but I really liked

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what the security guard told him about
on one occasion an important funeral procession,

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a person, a lady with a
lot of money. The attendees, all

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of them were very elegant, an
impressive chariot, fine jewelry, an impressive

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marble crypt. Everything was perfect.
When the funeral is over and all those

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leave with all their elegance, there
remains a man, a lord, equally

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elegant. That' s right,
you' re so glad you' re

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standing outside. He' s seen
there by the security guard, who'

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s in his rondin. You see
it' s in the afternoon. Think

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well, sir has the right to
stay a little longer, why not.

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When they close the doors at the
time of closing, they make a general

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tour to verify that they have not
stayed in any person inside and after that

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they go to the booth and stay
there already at night. The four guards

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make a joint tour to avoid tomb
looters. But when they make the tour,

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he sees the man, the elegant
lord, he sees him standing there

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again. Then she decides to approach
him to invite him out of the cemetery

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and happens to him that as he
approaches, he disappears, just like the

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story she told him about the village. But this guard claimed that good the

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next day they saw him again the
same way. They thought it must have

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been at the time. They said
he was Mrs Dead' s husband who

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had come to accompany her, but
he was also dead. The phenomenon was

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not repeated. After a few days. I just wasn' t there anymore.

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That was a pretty harmless one,
so to speak, probably a person

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who didn' t want to leave
the deceased person and until he realizes that

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he' s already out of that
body, that' s when he'

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s on his way, it'
s possible that he' s in the

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afterlife. It' s one of
the most constant questions you' d ever

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ask yourself. If I' ve
loved my lady very much all my life

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after death, will we be together? If I' ve loved my Aunt

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Panchita very much when we die,
will we be together? The answer is

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complicated, but apparently yes and it
is possible that these people who are accompanying

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someone who has died at a given
moment can leave together on what this is

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based. Well, there aren'
t many theories about it, but one

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of the most important claims that,
at the time of moving from this world

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to the other, certain loved ones
approach to help the game. Anyway.

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It' s one of those very
interesting topics that I was talking about.

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One of the recurring phenomena after death
is the tunnel of light. It is

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not common to all cases of near- death experiences. There are those who

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live it, there are those who
do not, but but many h chas

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of the cases that are talked about, which are the people who apparently return,

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narrate an episode in which, when
crossing from one Kingdom to another,

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they meet their loved ones in the
near- death experiences that have survived and

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that have recovered. They narrate as
these beings, these already deceased people,

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with whom they meet and who are
familiar to them, tell them that they

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must return and help them to return, but at the same time they see

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them in very appropriate and generally joyful
conditions. The relative who died in a

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sad, sick, worn- out
way to the bones, when they meet

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him or when they meet him in
this trance, at this crossing, they

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find him in a very good condition, very smiling, very cheerful. So,

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broadly speaking, if we ask that
terrible question further we' re going

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to be together, probably yes,
but in a different condition. Don'

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t imagine that if in this life
we' ve had any enmity out there,

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we' ll have it in the
other da. That' s unlikely

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to happen. What happens here and
here stays at last. Now I do

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say goodbye thanking you very much for
the favor of your company. We hear

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from the dark side