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Sometimes, when you walk down a
street in some city, you can'

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t imagine the stories behind the buildings
we now see. Perhaps you, walking

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along a sidewalk in your city,
see a more or less modern building,

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perhaps built twenty years ago. But
what was there in that place, what

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stories were woven there, in that
piece of land, what things happened,

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what emotions seized the people who inhabited
this place, what fear they had,

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what sensations, what stories. All
of that, apparently and only apparently,

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sometimes remains in one place. There
are so many stories all over the world.

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Hospitals full of paranormal phenomena, some
of them abandoned long ago, but

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still have their patients. There,
old churches, old convents, barracks and

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schools were rooted, but many of
those places one hoped would be like this.

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But sometimes stories aren' t so
obvious. We begin accounts of the

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dark side for strange beings event is
inexplicable truths stories that other minds prefer to

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ignore. First let me tell you
about Mrs Dolores. Mrs Dolores was born

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in a place known as Huejoquilla,
in Jalisco, in a thousand nine hundred

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and twenty- two. Mexico was
a dangerous country. The revolution had ended

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some time ago, the Mexican Revolution
the Great Ball, but Mexico was far

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from being at peace everywhere. There
were problems, uprisings in the north,

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in the center there were problems everywhere. As a child, I didn'

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t understand that. She simply played
with what she could with the primitive toys

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there were. His mom. She
was a very young woman. She had

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married her husband, probably at the
age of fifteen or sixteen, and very

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soon pains were born, that is, she was a little girl running around

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a little girl. Dad was a
little older man. It was something in

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the country. Go to know what, but he didn' t live long

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and that was very ugly, because
in a thousand nine hundred and twenty-

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eight they killed his dad. The
pope was a Christer. I have already

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told you that in Mexico he faced
a problem after the Great Revolution, faced

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the cristera war, where a somewhat
dictatorial and despotic government. He implanted a

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series of measures that restricted religious worship, religious freedom and a lot of things.

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And the fact is that many civilians
rose up in arms to demand respect

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for their religious freedom, and this
meant shootings, bombings and Dolores' dad

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left with the Christeros, but it
was very sad because she saw him when

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they killed him. They were walking
down the street and the dad was in

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the back. Mother Dolores, the
little boy in arms and the youngest in

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the mother' s womb were there. When suddenly, turning a corner already

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in his village, near the parish, men appeared. They pushed Dad against

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the wall and stabbed him. They
were probably government people, but they came

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in civilian. She had to see
him and then found out that they had

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also finished with her uncle Panfilo and
with another relative who was a priest and

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good had been that. The mother
sank, sank in despair because, besides

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the father died, the other relatives
began to look where and very soon they

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were left homeless, without the ranch, without the animals, without even an

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tortilla to take to the mouth.
But there was also another problem and that

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was the most serious thing that had
not calmed down and had not calmed down

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to the point that he continued to
see crimes in there people who were killed,

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because he was the brother of a
Cristero or the brother of a federal

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or something and she was so afraid
that one day he grabbed his children and

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left. They didn' t have
much to go to. So they went

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to Guadalajara, the capital of the
Mexican state of Jalisco. That must have

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been about a thousand nine hundred thirty- two at some point and it didn

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' t go well. They hoped
to find relatives there, but the relatives

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received them a few days and then
asked them to leave. Then they went

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somewhere else where an aunt who didn' t want to have them either lived.

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Then they went to stop. The
fact is, one day they were

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on the street. It had been
two years since they had arrived in Guadalajara

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and were sleeping in a portal.
The children were young when they killed the

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father in a thousand nine hundred and
twenty- eight, one was not yet

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born. So when I' d
be five or six years old and the

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other one would have been seven.
Probably by the thirty- four pains I

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' d have some. He likes
eleven years old. I don' t

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know. They were very young and
she remembers a lot or remembered a lot

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when she came to godmother. The
godmother was a godmother they had at some

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point for some reason. She was
a relative of the father and one day,

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asking about the children and the mother
of pains, she was informed that

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they had gone to Guadalajara. He
went to look for them there and found

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out they were very bad. So
he went door to door asking convents churches

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until someone told him a woman with
three little children. Oh, well,

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we did see her and she got
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she must have been a woman of
about sixty. I was tired because I

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had also experienced very ugly things.
But when it came to them they were

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made to turn the world back because
the godmother told them she was going to

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take them away. She lived in
Tlaquepaque, on the outskirts of Guadalajara she

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was going to take them and there
they would have a place to be.

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Not for nothing, she was the
godmother of the deceased and she would take

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over. The godmother also had her
story. Let me tell you that things

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in Mexico were really ugly all the
time. She got married too, very

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young and couldn' t even have
children because they killed her husband in one

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of so many riots. He was
killed. So he ran out of kids.

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And no husband. It still had
its properties and it wasn' t

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bad. He took it to live
and told him a little bit about the

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house. The house was close to
the parish, in one of the streets

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of downtown Tlaquepaque. When they got
there, they were very surprised. It

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was a big, old house,
it wasn' t very well cared for.

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Only the godmother lived in that house. There was no one else,

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there was no dog, there was
no cock, there was nothing, just

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godmother. But he knows something.
In that place there were windows, there

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were doors, there was a spotlight
up there in one of the rooms.

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The godmother wasn' t very modern, there wasn' t even a radio.

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All there was was quinques that at
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and candles, lots of candles.
That was never missing She was strange to

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the house because there was this little
central courtyard. Then there were some rooms,

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there was something upstairs, the bathroom
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the old coal smoke kitchen. Come
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there was a door and you know
what there were beds for some reason.

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There were more beds in the house
than the godmother' s. So,

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when the children arrived, the first
thing he did was to put them in

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a huge tub of those old plates. He filled it with water, put

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hot stones, hot ans that he
pulled out of a kind of stove and

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then heated the water. Then he
put the kids in. They were all

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filthy, all smelly, hungry,
skeletal and godmother had with what because she

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had money somewhere over there, in
Huejoquilla, she had a ranch and here

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she had this house, but she
also had another house she rented and another

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house where there were many shops.
So she had money, she was already

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half tired, but she had a
very good heart. So he put the

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two kids in one bed, the
mom in another, and Dolores. Dolores

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was sent to sleep in a bedroom
next to her, because, as she

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was tired, she was no longer
reading well. And it turns out Dolores

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knew how to read very well and
she was very smart, she knew how

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to count very well and she was
very awake. And that became evident after

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the first nights of sleeping there talking
about the godmother, she realized that the

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ani girl had a future, she
was going to send her to school,

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but between that beginning the classes and
others she would take with her to the

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market and turns out that her hand
turned to go, holding and to go

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doing very good accounts. But the
house had something in particular, it was

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kind of weird. The first thing
Dolores remembered was that on certain nights,

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when everything was quiet, she listened
to the godmother speak her bedroom was nearby

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They were huge wooden doors, thick
walls and a spotlight up there far away

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that was useless. That' s
why I actually preferred candles, because the

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focus was so small and electrical power
failed every single time. That' s

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why she had her candle, but
on the night I suddenly heard her talk

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like she was talking to someone and
all of a sudden, in that silence

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of the night, she was running
away to the godmother to say go to

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sleep now Andale Eulalio, Go to
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' t go there? Don'
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you, don' t go there. Dolores, I didn' t know

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what it was about. He'
s been hearing it several times. Other

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times the godmother was heard more angry. Suddenly I heard him angry when I

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said I told you not to come
here, Eulalio? Do you get Eulalio?

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Release Eulalio and you heard it is
as it was, Dolores. She

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was not silly and imagined that someone
was going into the night, but the

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idea was taken away very soon when
simply seeing the godmother' s bedroom,

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she knew that there was no way
that someone would enter the night had not

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even a window outside. It was
all so strange that the truth started to

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scare her a bit, especially when
at night she heard steps coming and going,

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but she knew that the gate was
closed and no one had opened it.

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The godmother was too punctual to go
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clock at night, everyone after the
snack to bed. So no one came

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in and the godmother wasn' t
enough to be having romances. One day

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she told her mother that the godmother
was talking to a certain eulalium at night

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and that she was being scared.
She told him not to talk nonsense,

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which is probably what happened is that
the godmother was already big and that'

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s why she liked to talk alone. But that was still happening and it

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continued to happen loudly. It was
heard as many times as the Godmother spoke

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to such a eulalio and sometimes not
only for a little while there when there

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were two rooms, but or in
the morning and sometimes it was so strong

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that Dolores woke up, that she
heard clearly how the Godmother was talking to

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someone sometimes very angry. One of
those times in the morning, when they

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were already going to the market,
in the middle of the conversation and the

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gossip that she had with the Godmother, Dolores dared to ask Madrina and you

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with whom she speaks in the evenings
forgive me if I bother her. But

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then, to know if I open
the door, if I close it,

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I make up a story there.
She was very awake, Dolores, and

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the Godmother said to her daughter,
don' t pay attention is your godfather.

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She kept thinking about my best man. I' ve never seen him.

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Says my godfather' s coming,
godmother. I don' t know

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him, because he hasn' t
told me, because to meet him,

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if not my daughter, your godfather
died many years ago. That answer left

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her cold. The Godmother seemed to
be fully aware that she was talking to

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a deceased. He just told her
don' t freak out. Sometimes he

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comes in there, I' ll
have you pray for his soul because he

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can' t find rest and then
he grabs a bunch of some herbs.

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He put them in his sack and
they kept walking. But she was left

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with that situation and then they started
to pass on other things. For example,

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that day the mother had already shouted
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First they bathed the children and then, as the kids had gone out,

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they bathed pains for modesty and respect
for the lady. The fact is that

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they put Latina, put those stones
very hot so that the water warmed up

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and when it was ready, they
took out the stones and put the children

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in. On that day she took
care of pains filled Latina, grabbed the

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stones from the famous stove, which
was a kind of oven, where they

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had wood and coals there and with
that she put them and went out for

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a moment. But when he wanted
to come back, the door was locked.

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And at that moment, when he
drew his ear, because he knocked

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on the door, he heard the
water moving as if someone were bathing surprised.

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She stood there and when the mom
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hadn' t put the kids in
and she told her no more. Listen,

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you listen, Mom, there'
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the godmother took a bath. Don' t talk nonsense, your godmother won

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' t bathe these hours. Listen, Mom, you' re hearing the

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water, how it moves completely.
The mom, a little angry, said

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that like she' s moving,
the water opens the door and when the

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bath came in, she was actually
moving, but there was no one They

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felt a chill there a weird thing, because they also felt clearly how when

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they opened the door someone passed by
them. These things were happening all the

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time and there were other phenomena,
for example, suddenly you could see a

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man in a hat like a charro
walk by. There was nothing different but

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shadow. They were downstairs. After
the kitchen, there was a space where

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there was a very large table that
had two windows. This space had two

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windows to the central courtyard. At
about seven o' clock they were sitting

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outside to snack, they saw a
man with a hat passing by. When

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Dolores first saw him, she told
the Godmother. Godmother got into someone.

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The Godmother said no. No,
don' t worry, take your chocolate

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It' s okay. But Godmother, I just saw a guy pass by

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You take your chocolate It' s
okay here. Another day they saw him

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again and she was very frightened,
told him hours and Godmother got in.

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Now, yes, there' s
a thief inside. He said don'

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t worry That eulalium is your godfather
out there. That happened every day,

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some little thing happened and then,
for example, it was that day so

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ugly that day it did freak out
because first it went there with the godmother,

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already left it in her room.
He helped her because she was crooked,

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he settled her in her bed,
put her in, turned off her

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candle, grabbed hers and went to
her room. Walking. He went into

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his room, closed his door well, pulled out the blankets of his bed,

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put his candle together to lie down
and suddenly turned off his candle,

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but it wasn' t the wind, because everything was closed and he stayed

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in complete darkness, feeling clearly how
someone came and sat on the bed in

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that perfect darkness, he felt clear
how someone sat down with him. He

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was able to find his matches,
his matches, and he lit his candle

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again, and there was no one
there. Of course, when she looked

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around there was nothing, nothing,
but she felt clear how someone had sat

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down. He felt so scared.
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something like this again, lay down
and then, as soon as he turned

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off the candle, he felt someone
put him together. That time he couldn

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' t stand it and got up
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There she stayed with her, but
it wasn' t long and it wasn

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' t long before the two children
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all in fear and one day she
realized that the mother also one early morning,

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tempranito found her. I was sitting
there by the window. I was

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like crying. When you came up
and told her what' s wrong with

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mom, you' re sick.
She told him there' s nothing wrong

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with him. Mommy, you have
a problem. He didn' t move

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his head. I brought you something
so you wouldn' t be my daughter.

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No. She was very sad to
see her mom crying. He imagined

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it was out of sadness for that. Then he found out something very ugly,

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and then he heard how the mother
was talking to the godmother about what

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had happened to her that night.
And that night, even though everyone slept

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in the same place, the mother
slept on the shore. It was a

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very big bed and suddenly in the
middle of the morning, he clearly felt

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how a man got into bed,
knew it was a man, big,

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big hands. He felt how cold, cold, cold in the middle of

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the darkness fit him together, because
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In the midst of that total dimness, he could clearly feel how that

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body would fit in with it,
fit it, and stick it together.

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He felt cold, cold hands that
hurt so cold, trying to tempt her,

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he jumped up and there was no
one to see the sleeping children and

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he didn' t dare to light
the light. But he did notice that

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the bed was still crooked. Where
she was lying. She was still crooked

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and then she went and moved her
daughter, who was the one next to

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her. She was afraid that she
would leave to panic and she stood there

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and prayed and prayed all morning crying
out of the scare the godmother. He

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told her not to listen It'
s eulalium that' s out there.

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Keep hurting daughter, keep hurting poor
man you must include him in your prayers.

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Pray for him, but pray for
him. And so every night,

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when they went to sleep it got
very ugly there were times they saw a

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cat. The cat was the least, but they saw him enter the room.

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The problem is that everything was closed
and they knew they were getting there

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and first they changed pains, which
was the lady. Then the children and

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l o o o or nuns dress
them with their pajamites and lay them down.

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And just as the mother came in
with the candle already set in her

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nightgown, she closed the door.
They were going to put that on the

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bedside table and immediately they saw the
cat pass when they asked godmother Oiga Madrina

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and that cat that walks and whose
it is she laughed a lot and said

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which cat. Man. There are
no cats here, I don' t

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have a cat, but we see
a shadow of a cat and don'

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t listen to that bastard finding out
again who the unhappy one was, why

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he was there. Good question.
The thing is that they got a little

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bit used to it and he knows
why they got used to it, because

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there was nothing for them out there
in the village in Huejaquilla, what their

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dad had left them had already earned
them. The others, the relatives,

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the cousins, everyone had taken something
and there was nothing for them. There

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wasn' t a job, there
was nothing to do. So they only

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had the godmother and the godmother only
had them. So no way to leave

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her or anything. And that'
s how they moved on. But things

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happened to them kind of ugly all
of a sudden. When they arrived in

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the afternoon, they saw the shadow
passing and they had to wait for each

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other. There they stood at the
entrance, talking about other things. They

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saw those who passed by the cars
that were already passing well and they talked

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about something else in what was lost
the shadow. When they saw the cat,

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they didn' t turn off the
candle. And then, to avoid

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any more broncas one day the mother
put a candlelight and put a little saint,

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the holy child of Atocha or something
of those put it in her head

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and before going to sleep, everyone
prayed and only so bad things did not

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happen. But little by little,
the godmother also became more old and after

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the time, it must have been
around nine hundred forty, the godmother was

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already very tired, Dolores already takes
care of going to collect her rents,

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going to do her shopping, everything
that needed the godmother pain was taken care

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of and also took care of bringing
her medicine, caring for her, helping

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her to bathe. But that always
happened to them. When the godmother said

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yes now, pains, you help
me take a bath. It was necessary

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to be very careful, because if
something was scary to her, it was

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that the spectrum, the one by
which it would appear to her, because

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they had even come to see the
footprints, they barely put the water,

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threw the stones at her right away, the noise was heard. So she

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waited over there far away and then
came to open the door and then came

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to see the footprints of someone who
walked, wet footprints. If he was

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afraid of something, it was to
find an altar by which Godmother Madrina waited.

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I don' t know what it' s all about, that godmother

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laughed and said, but which one
it was. Daughter knew what she was

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talking about, because she never wanted
to bathe herself and there was pain to

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help her bathe. I loved him. He had become fond of him,

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although the scares were the scares as
that day would have some, which he

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likes eighteen or nineteen years pains.
He had found a job that he was

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leaving early. I' d studied
some secret. I' d do one

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of those things. So he worked
in a big store. He ended his

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day and returned early to the house. About six, six and a half.

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I was already there to attend to
the godmother, to help the other

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brothers, to see what was needed. But one of those days occurred to

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him. Staying by talking to a
person who was doing a few little eyes,

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very nice. He told her to
wait a little while to talk.

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They kept talking good stuff. Don' t imagine anything good. At a

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certain point in time, he apologizes
and tells him I have to go.

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I have to go to my godmother
and he started walking without realizing it was

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more than eight o' clock at
night. He opened the door to the

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house, that huge wooden door.
He went in, turned around, closed

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and took three steps. When she
felt something holding her by the hard hairs

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of the back of the braid,
she pulled it, threw it to the

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floor. He felt clearly how they
threw it and how they began to pull

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it. He started screaming like crazy, asking for help. He figured there

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was someone waiting for her and he
was going to insult her, but he

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didn' t see anyone. I
only felt those pulls, those scratches,

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as if a man really did,
because I felt that I was someone very

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strong, I was grabbing her and
I was not exactly attacking her in the

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sexual character, but punishing her,
hitting her something. The Godmother ran down

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as fast as she could and began
to pray the bird Maria and our father

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and the other, the mother,
who was back over there, came running

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also praying and saw how she twisted
and did not find that when one of

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the brothers, who was already big
by that time, came to want to

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catch her to see what was happening
to her, felt a push that threw

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him there with many prayers and blessing
in the name of the Most High that

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remained still pains, had several bruises, several scratches and there was no one.

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The door was locked. When you' re crying. I was telling

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her Godmother, Godmother, what was
that, Godmother, what happened to me,

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what was that? It said.
I don' t know. My

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daughter, my Eulalio, was never
bad. My Hermulalio, I would never

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have done that to you. Days
later they kept seeing the shadows, but

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now they looked more and worse even
when she told the Godmother, Godmother,

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we have to get out of here. We can' t be in this

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house anymore. The Godmother said to
them with tears in her eyes. I

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can' t hear my daughter,
where we' re going, where you

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' re going anywhere, Madrina,
I already work. I can pay for

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a little house, a little apartment, a few rooms, something to stay

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in, but let' s go. Godmother. You sell this. The

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Godmother did not want and did not
want for something very simple, because she

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remained attached to Eulalio, but everything
else that happened in the house had nothing

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to do with it. It got
very ugly little by little. The day

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Dolores arrived with a radio, a
radio, a radio of those big old

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guys, plugged him in somehow and
turned it on more. He was worth

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not doing it, because soon they
started falling dishes, breaking things. Well,

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the godmother had to come and ask
him to return it. The godmother

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died in' 48. It was
a thousand nine hundred and forty- eight

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and one afternoon, when Dolores went
up to check on her, she found

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her dead. He found her up
there in her snuggled bed. She was

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a little girl, she' d
already become a little girl. He must

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have been up in the' 80s
by now. I don' t know,

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really, but he was already a
very big total, because they'

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re already bringing who and they did
a funeral and they buried her. Back

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in the house. You couldn'
t be there. But you couldn'

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t be there because as soon as
the shadow came across the door, you

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saw her moving from one side to
the other. That night they heard footsteps

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throughout the house, doors were heard
opening and closing, All kinds of strange

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noises were heard, but something that
really forced them to leave there that day

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and it was forever morning whining still
with the candle of the saint, lit,

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even with all the candles of the
house, still put with the electric

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power lit because they had already put
light on it. Obviously, all of

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a sudden everything went out and,
in the middle of that darkness, they

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suddenly began to hear the crying of
a very loud baby, a crying that

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went through room by room, but
it was not that of a newborn baby,

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but that of a child, a
child of about two or three years

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old, and they heard it running
from room to room in the middle of

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that silence of this old house hearing
that made them nervous because moreover, it

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seems that that thing was not only
heard, but that it was seen.

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One of the brothers said Queralfin no
longer wanted to know anything at the time.

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Dolores, he must' ve had
a twenty- eight- year-

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old bear. Shortly after that he
married that boy with the pretty eyes that

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he had spoken to him. Some
time ago, one of his brothers went

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to live in the capital. I
had studied something. The other one also

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left very soon. Mom went to
live in pain. They had a house

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on the outskirts, a large property
of the boy' s family. So

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they all went to live there.
The godmother' s house was closed.

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He had left them to them,
left a will, giving them all their

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properties, pains and brothers. None
of them ever wanted to touch anything.

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Nothing. They didn' t want
to know anything about it, especially after

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the child' s last experience,
running crying all his spectra of godmother were

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looking for her, they were looking
for her and it was a horrible experience.

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They had to leave the place,
close it and not return It was

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time and, well one day they
had to answer for the property was theirs.

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So they started arriving at requirements,
requests, all that. They had

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to sort things out and they had
to come back. The day he returned

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pains to the house must have been
in a thousand nine hundred and sixty.

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It had been about twelve years since
the death of the Godmother and the house

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was still closed inside were her things, her furniture. Even the robbers hadn

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' t gotten involved. His furniture
was always where his frets his jar his

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things were there, upstairs the other
rooms and at the bottom the bath tub,

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where he was always with his apparatus, the one where he warmed some

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stones. He never wanted to put
on a heater. She was so lonely,

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the house so sad. Of course, they didn' t complain to

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sleep. They walked a little just
to check that it was in order,

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that there was no problem. The
house was already badly damaged. Humidity had

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affected the ceiling beams in several parts
and had begun to collapse. It wasn

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' t something rescueable. It should
be taken down. They did decide to

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work that, tear down the house
and build a building. Dolores and her

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husband had enough money. They had
done very well. So they' d

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set up an apartment building to rend
or sell something. They' d do

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it down there, set up a
big trade for someone who wanted to rent

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it, a wide space. So
they hired workers and started tearing that down.

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It was probably a house of one
thousand eight hundred and sixty. In

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the 1960s in Mexico, neither the
laws of housing nor the preservation of heritage

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were much respected. So nobody said
anything. They started tearing down and that

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' s when they found something weird
the house itself already had its own.

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It wasn' t just Don Eulalio. There were many more things, because

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when they suddenly began to lie down
one day they called him and had to

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come. There was a closed space, a room that could not be seen

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from anywhere. If you went into
one bedroom, then there was the other.

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But if you walked outside, you
didn' t notice that there was

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a big hole that had no door
or window. When the workers opened it,

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they took a strange surprise. As
they were pulling and breaking. This

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locked room showed up. They thought
there could be a treasure and some tarugo

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even learned a torch and went in
to see and there was no treasure in

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there. There were a lot of
old things, clothes, clothes, like

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weddings, like things like that and
not just that. They also found a

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00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:37.960
skeleton there. They didn' t
know if it was man' s or

413
00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:38.880
woman' s, they didn'
t have any clothes or anything. The

414
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:43.720
little fabric that was left around there
could have been from anyone else' s.

415
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:49.400
There were also spoons and there were
several things like they had shut this

416
00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:52.400
down, like that man had been
murdered in that house and put there,

417
00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:58.400
man or woman. Whatever. When
the workers called I already had that,

418
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:04.319
many years preferred not to clarify anything, they wrapped it and threw it into

419
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:08.280
the debris. He left with the
load of the debris, no one said

420
00:34:08.360 --> 00:34:12.920
anything about the objects that were there. Also then more to already found something

421
00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:16.760
else, something like a hole in
the floor. They thought again that there

422
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:21.400
were treasures and everything, but there
was nothing there. It was a very

423
00:34:21.519 --> 00:34:24.960
rare hole. There were also casserole
objects, like someone had kept it.

424
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:30.760
There they demolished everything, cleaned the
land and brought people to build their building.

425
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:37.719
And he knows something. Yeah,
they built it, and if I

426
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:42.719
' m right, it must still
be out there. The problem is that

427
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:49.480
from the first day in that place
pains happened, because she was already a

428
00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:54.679
lady. When I was on my
way there, there was always someone complaining,

429
00:34:54.840 --> 00:34:59.320
complaining about the man walking at night. They listened to him as he

430
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:04.360
walked in pure heels as if he
brought boots, boots of those that were

431
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:08.880
worn in the field, heavy boots
and claimed that why the crying child did

432
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:15.360
that. When she heard pains about
what one of her tenants told her by

433
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:17.360
God to talk to the parents of
that crying child in the early morning,

434
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:23.320
she was surprised when she asked what
that was like. That person told him

435
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:29.159
that in the early morning they heard
a child running barefoot, crying, screaming

436
00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:32.920
with a peeled cry. And well, she felt that her soul was going

437
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:38.880
to her feet blessed the place under
the pretext of the feast and I don

438
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:43.719
' t know how much they brought
a priest who went corner by corner to

439
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:47.320
corridor by corridor, stairway, blessing
and praying the exorcism of Leo XIII.

440
00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:53.480
The youngest, the one used for
houses. Looks like it worked for at

441
00:35:53.559 --> 00:36:01.159
least a while. Why, years
later, when Mrs Dolores died and they

442
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:06.719
went to make the uprising for the
purposes of the wills or something, that

443
00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:09.920
one of their children was going to
keep the building, because the thing was

444
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:15.599
not so quiet, because the people
who went to do that job claimed that

445
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:20.760
there was a strange old lady watching
them, but when they arrived there was

446
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:25.360
no one. And then down the
shadow And so until they finally had to

447
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:32.920
understand that place kept their dead.
They didn' t leave The old lady

448
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:36.719
was the godmother. The boy.
Go know who the godmother was. He

449
00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:40.599
never had children, Mr Eulalio,
and then the shadow, which seemed to

450
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:45.079
be much earlier, did not seem
to be a gift of eulalium. Then

451
00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:49.719
the guy, the loving one,
the one who slept next to you hugged

452
00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:55.559
you by the man who took a
bath. All those didn' t seem

453
00:36:55.639 --> 00:37:00.079
to be the same person, but
different spectra that stayed. There are places

454
00:37:00.159 --> 00:37:05.840
that keep their dead and the godmother
died there. So if today you plan

455
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:09.480
to rent or go live in those
streets downtown, in an old building,

456
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:17.480
think twice because it' s been
many years. And if we take into

457
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:22.760
account that many years have passed and
that some other neighbor has taken the road

458
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:27.239
to heaven, it is likely that
there you will find the charro the one

459
00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:30.639
of the shadow, the clean man, the loving man, the godmother,

460
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:35.920
the child, the cat and even
the neighbor. Yeah, if not,

461
00:37:35.960 --> 00:37:47.599
it' s that even Mrs Dolores, and well, since we' re

462
00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:54.000
focused on talk about old houses.
Now let me take you to Asunción,

463
00:37:54.360 --> 00:38:00.480
the capital of Paraguay. In this
place many people have to go through that

464
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:08.880
corner every day and probably many wonder
what happens to that construction. I can

465
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:15.880
' t give you the specifics,
because it' s a house that has

466
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:19.119
owners and that, for some reason, they still can' t sell it.

467
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:24.360
But anyone who passes by does not
stop feeling a little chill. It

468
00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:31.360
is a construction of perhaps nine hundred
and twenty and it is a very rare

469
00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:36.960
house, because it is completely English
style and it was English the owner.

470
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:45.119
Many years ago this family came and
built a house in the style of its

471
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:49.639
constructions there to remember, to no
surprise, I don' t know.

472
00:38:50.599 --> 00:38:55.199
It was a family and today people
who cross there will wonder what the story

473
00:38:55.280 --> 00:39:01.960
of this place is. Why let
me tell you that in relatively recent times,

474
00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:10.599
this site has been occupied by numerous
people, families, offices. We

475
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:16.760
' re going to put offices up
to a church, an alternative church settled

476
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:21.440
there. But as for the witnesses
and the neighbors who have the longest people

477
00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:28.440
arriving, the tenants of this construction
don' t last at all. The

478
00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:32.039
members of the church, as we
are told, lasted three or four days

479
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:37.000
and went to another place they lost
the deposit and so on, and there

480
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:39.119
are also those who tell that there
are families who have arrived a long time

481
00:39:39.119 --> 00:39:43.159
ago. Today it is very abandoned, it is not habitable, but a

482
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:50.440
long time ago they arrived and the
next morning they ran away or stayed for

483
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:53.000
several days, but never more than
a couple of weeks. People don'

484
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:58.920
t know why, and there'
s a lot of rumors, but a

485
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:02.480
friend of the canal, marce,
she does know the story. And he

486
00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:07.880
knows the complete story of the first
source, first hand. And that'

487
00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:15.920
s because her grandmother told her the
story, because it turns out that her

488
00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:22.760
grandmother lived across the street in another
house and she found out about this simply

489
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:25.760
by chance, because marcela loved to
hold her grandmother' s hand and walk

490
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:30.960
with her to shopping wherever she was
and when they went through that house,

491
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:37.679
she always had a weird feeling,
the feeling that there was something wrong,

492
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:42.039
that there was something weird in that
house. And this, moreover, was

493
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:46.840
accompanied by an increase in the speed
of the grandmother, because just as they

494
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:50.920
passed by, the grandmother grabbed her
by the hand and accelerated the pace quickly,

495
00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:54.159
quickly, quickly without turning and already
passed the house that and on the

496
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:59.760
next street, the grandmother would walk
again with her usual tranquility and appease very

497
00:40:59.639 --> 00:41:04.519
calmly. But just as they were
passing by the house, Grandma was quiet

498
00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:10.159
and speeded up almost like an athlete. Running one day, she dared to

499
00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:15.960
ask him, Grandma, what about
that house, why she' s so

500
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:20.119
lonely, because she' s abandoned, because she' s so ugly,

501
00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:23.960
why do you run When we passed
by and Grandma told her the story.

502
00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:30.679
Marcela' s grandmother was born in
a thousand nine hundred and twenty- six

503
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:38.719
and was born just there, in
Asunción, the capital of Paraguay, and

504
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:44.079
casually went to live across the street
from that place. Being small three four

505
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:49.199
years. He saw the arrival of
those people. He saw a foreign man

506
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:58.519
build in his house, evidently,
with a foreign woman, a very well

507
00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:01.360
arranged, very beautiful couple. They
came to live. They were seen to

508
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:06.880
have money, Granny' s family
was not so wealthy, but they had

509
00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:13.679
an unburdened economic position. The great- grandfather lawyer had business, they had

510
00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:15.880
an unbridled position and this neighborhood was
a high- middle- class neighborhood.

511
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:22.639
So it wasn' t uncommon for
him to build that kind of castilito,

512
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:28.639
a beautiful house and a very pretty
family. After a short time, they

513
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:34.880
realized that the family also had children, but they were very quiet, unlike

514
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:39.079
the rest of the people in that
colony who knew each other. They greeted

515
00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:44.480
each other, invited the roasts,
shared mates of that kind. That English

516
00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:50.159
family didn' t talk to anyone, they weren' t rude. If

517
00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:53.840
they met someone on the street,
they greeted politely, but that gentleman went

518
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:58.840
out every morning in his car,
which was not very common. Back then.

519
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:04.679
The families did not have a car, but that person had a car,

520
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:08.000
went out and went to work,
came back in the afternoon, put

521
00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:14.719
his car in the garage and went
into the house, the grandmother of marcela

522
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:16.360
Cristina. At that time, when
I was a little older than nine years

523
00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:22.320
old. Let' s think of
a thousand nine hundred and thirty- five

524
00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:28.480
he' s dying of curiosity because
sometimes when he walks down the sidewalk,

525
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:31.039
he gets to see two kids playing
there alone. The garden is very nice.

526
00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:36.719
So one day he breaks the rules
of the game because no one was

527
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:42.360
allowed to go there. Everyone looked
at them from a distance and the gate

528
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:45.960
came to greet them and the children
greeted them and everyone started to talk about

529
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:51.480
children' s things. She'
s nine, one of those kids must

530
00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:55.440
be eight and another person about nine. So the talk becomes fluid important things

531
00:43:55.639 --> 00:44:02.960
for them until suddenly the mother comes
out, the English lady, who approaches

532
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:08.320
and with a strong foreign accent greets
the girl and tells her that if she

533
00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:15.000
ever wants to, she can go
play with her children. She' s

534
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:17.800
invited, but she can ask for
permission. Run home and ask permission and

535
00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:24.000
they gave him permission. The thing
is that she arrived certain days when there

536
00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:30.280
was opportunity, she played the bell, the children went out and always played

537
00:44:30.360 --> 00:44:34.760
with their toys from them. She
never wore a doll, a ball,

538
00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:37.880
or anything. It was always with
their toys and always in the garden.

539
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:43.079
He never went into the house.
It wasn' t allowed. At one

540
00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:49.000
point the English lady appeared wearing a
small charolita with lemonade, delivering the lemonade,

541
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:54.199
returning, never coming out again.
At a certain point everyone' s

542
00:44:54.199 --> 00:44:59.360
home. At one point the mother
was leaving. The English lady called the

543
00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:04.119
children and these as if they were
little robots boom inside the house until leaving

544
00:45:04.159 --> 00:45:08.639
the toys, she took her little
coat or whatever went out politely, closed

545
00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:15.079
the door and went home. There
was a detail that with the passing of

546
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:22.719
days had caught his attention. The
house had a basement and that was very

547
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:28.880
rare. There wasn' t that
in this area. People didn' t

548
00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:32.079
used to have a basement, but
this house did. She didn' t

549
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:36.360
even notice when a toy went out
there and she could see that there were

550
00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:42.239
some little windows, something she commented, but the others didn' t even

551
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:45.800
do it, they were extremely reserved. Another day, while everyone is playing,

552
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:52.159
she listens to a little bird,
something that got between the branches and

553
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:58.320
runs over there and it' s
precisely close to the little windows that were

554
00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:02.519
facing the basement and as she approached
she could see that there was someone there,

555
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:07.000
another child. Inside that space,
in that very dark basement, there

556
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:10.599
was another child. She was barely
able to see him and she was already

557
00:46:10.679 --> 00:46:16.320
called to keep playing. She asked
something, but no one answered the days

558
00:46:16.440 --> 00:46:22.639
are there again a magnificent day and
those little brothers are out there very entertaining.

559
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:30.039
When she goes to the little window, she approaches and there' s

560
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:32.920
a creature. There' s a
boy. So she says hello. I

561
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:38.760
' m Cristina, what' s
your name, and that creature responds in

562
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:43.039
a very rare way. Cristina,
that is, Marcela' s grandmother realizes

563
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:46.079
that she is a sick child.
That' s what they called him back

564
00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:52.519
then, he was probably a person
with some kind of dawno syndrome, maybe

565
00:46:53.199 --> 00:46:55.400
cerebral palsy, something like that drooled
a lot and he wasn' t understood

566
00:46:55.400 --> 00:47:00.360
what he was saying. Still,
Cristin stretched out his hand and shoved it

567
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:02.440
through a hole in the window and
grabbed the little boy' s hand.

568
00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:09.239
Evidently, that creature was pleased because
she stood there holding his hand and there

569
00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:15.800
someone made a noise and she ran
with the brothers. He didn' t

570
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:21.920
ask anything, he didn' t
want to spoil that, and on subsequent

571
00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:25.480
occasions he went back into hiding to
see him and didn' t tell anyone

572
00:47:25.519 --> 00:47:30.800
until one day he couldn' t
do it anymore, and he told his

573
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:34.920
mom that, well, that'
s too bad. He was probably a

574
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:39.199
sick child and they had him hidden
there out of shame, because people thought

575
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:45.960
that was God' s punishment or
something. The fact is that she began

576
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:50.880
to see them already in different ways
and preferred to stop going to play Cristina

577
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:53.480
' s grandmother, went on with
her world, etcetera, etcetera. But

578
00:47:53.519 --> 00:48:00.559
that house was getting darker and darker. Soon the children leave where to go

579
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:04.800
out and play. Soon life began
to look different because one day the Lord

580
00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:10.360
He got another place very close,
wall with wall almost and built another house.

581
00:48:12.760 --> 00:48:16.280
They all thought it might be a
form of investment to rent, and

582
00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:22.440
in that came a woman, a
young woman, a woman from beyond Paraguay,

583
00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:28.559
and they realized that he was the
lover, because that gentleman went to

584
00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:34.079
the house often and stayed there.
Such was her flamboyance that, however,

585
00:48:34.599 --> 00:48:37.760
she had a woman who had children, still had a lover and led her

586
00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:44.639
to live there close to her.
But on top of that, it was

587
00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:49.960
notorious that the lady was sinking every
day suddenly they no longer knew it was

588
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:54.119
theirs. Someone said the lady had
died first and then the lord. The

589
00:48:54.199 --> 00:48:58.559
children were gone, the house was
no longer inhabited, and the house was

590
00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:05.280
left alone. Of course, the
question is whether anyone knew anything about that

591
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:10.920
third inhabitant, that third child,
but they didn' t know. They

592
00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:16.079
never knew. The point is that, over time, at some point the

593
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:22.280
children accept that the house will be
put for rent. And that' s

594
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:28.480
when that happens that the first tenants
arrive and they can' t be and

595
00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:30.519
run away. And of course no
one dared to ask, hear, they

596
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:34.039
scared him off or what' s
going on inside. But there were rumors

597
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:39.079
of what appeared there, of how
the crying of that ghost woman was heard

598
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:45.679
or of how the marked steps on
the floor were seen, the laughter,

599
00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:51.480
the sounds of children playing when the
house was empty and clear in the basement

600
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:57.599
there was no way in. The
feeling of sadness, of anguish of anger

601
00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:01.199
was terrible. People who entered felt
disturbed or at least that is what is

602
00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:07.360
told. It could be a legend, but Marcela' s grandmother didn'

603
00:50:07.400 --> 00:50:12.800
t used to tell things that weren' t real and something else, she

604
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:16.360
wasn' t fanciful. He was
a very severe person and when he said

605
00:50:16.360 --> 00:50:21.199
this it happened. You had to
believe that that happened. The body of

606
00:50:21.199 --> 00:50:23.800
the third child never came out.
They never saw him, maybe he even

607
00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:29.599
stayed there. The lady died of
sadness, anger, or anger at that

608
00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:34.599
mockery of her own husband. This
house was marked by that. And today

609
00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:37.320
there are those who say that,
from time to time, if you stay

610
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:45.119
there long enough, you can see
how a window opens and suddenly, if

611
00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:52.480
you stay longer, you will see
a face, a woman. Some say

612
00:50:52.519 --> 00:50:59.239
the owner never left, she got
trapped. How to know. I don

613
00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:01.199
' t know if he' s
still standing. As far as I knew,

614
00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:05.639
the house had already been put up
for sale in order to demolish,

615
00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:10.920
clean the grounds and erect something new. Maybe it' s gone, but

616
00:51:12.039 --> 00:51:17.039
it had a sad story and sad
stories sometimes make people, when they die,

617
00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:30.880
not go away and get trapped.
There you would think, and that

618
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:35.400
makes me think of another story I
heard as a child. The family I

619
00:51:35.440 --> 00:51:38.199
come from is a family of immigrants, people who came from another country and

620
00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:45.679
obviously many stories were told among them, among immigrants and some of them were

621
00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:51.679
terrifying. One that was very recorded
to me was the story of some people

622
00:51:51.719 --> 00:51:59.000
who probably arrived in the late 1940s
in Mexico. The arrival of the Spaniards

623
00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:01.679
in Mexico was in the port of
Veracruz, in the part of the coast

624
00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:07.079
of the Gulf of Mexico remains towards
the Atlantic. They embarked at some point,

625
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:12.719
either in France or in Spain.
Or in Portugal, they sailed to

626
00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:17.199
Cuba and Cuba came to Mexico.
They came to the port of Veracruz,

627
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:22.159
to a different land, to a
totally different world, to a totally different

628
00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:27.440
climate, and they told that that
was what happened to those people. The

629
00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:30.679
father of the family had fled in
the war, in the civil war,

630
00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:34.599
and the family had stayed in Spain. They couldn' t get out.

631
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:39.280
So the father came to live alone
in Mexico. Some time later, everyone

632
00:52:39.320 --> 00:52:44.079
comes to Mexico and when they arrive
they find that the father is very sick,

633
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:47.800
can not work, there is nothing
to live and the only place where

634
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:53.880
they can stay being in Veracruz is
an old house in the center near the

635
00:52:53.880 --> 00:53:00.519
port. It' s an ugly
abandoned house. In addition, this place

636
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:06.559
the port of Veracruz is a jewel, it is very nice, but it

637
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:12.199
is hot, humid and the food
is very different. Everything was different.

638
00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:15.840
So when those people arrive they encounter
a world they don' t understand strange.

639
00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:22.840
They came from northern Spain, cold
territories and entered the tropics. Well,

640
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:27.400
that' s horrible, but the
house had its own. It was

641
00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:30.559
a very old house. At the
bottom, outside, towards the street,

642
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:37.280
there was a small local food restaurant. Then there was a business of something

643
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:39.599
else, I don' t know
if a shoemaker or something, and then

644
00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:45.960
a sale business of hardware, stuff
like that. Then the interior was several

645
00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:52.039
rooms on the ground floor a courtyard
and those rooms were occupied as cellars.

646
00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:58.360
On the top three very large rooms
each faced the front with their window.

647
00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:02.519
That' s what he rented out. The bathroom was on the other side

648
00:54:02.559 --> 00:54:07.480
of the house backwards. You had
to walk down a hallway in the open

649
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:10.320
to get there, and then there
were other spaces behind that were ruined.

650
00:54:12.199 --> 00:54:15.599
The house was no longer visible if
it had ever had any color and the

651
00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:22.800
beamed ceilings showed a very evident deterioration. But this is what they were able

652
00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:27.840
to achieve and that was because a
plainclothesman lent them some pesos so they could

653
00:54:27.960 --> 00:54:32.239
live there. But everything was very
complicated. Anyway it was the only thing

654
00:54:32.280 --> 00:54:38.760
that the eldest son, at about
twenty years old, gets very soon a

655
00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:44.280
job in a fabric store where he
has to stay from dawn to dusk to

656
00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:51.800
earn a few pesos just to pay
the basics in that place. However,

657
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:58.400
since they arrived there was this feeling
of sadness. You walked into the rooms,

658
00:54:58.760 --> 00:55:00.880
and while outside they were on a
train and so many degrees of temperature

659
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:06.000
or forty- seven degrees inside,
it felt like a permanent cold. That

660
00:55:06.039 --> 00:55:10.159
was not bad, because with the
tremendous weather that made the heat unbearable,

661
00:55:10.559 --> 00:55:15.840
entering a cool room was a wonder, but it wasn' t in that

662
00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:20.880
sense. It was not a pleasant
cool, It was a rare feeling and,

663
00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:25.440
moreover, a permanent presence of an
unpleasant smell, even though the cellars

664
00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:30.800
that were downstairs and in the following
rooms were articles that were not spoiled,

665
00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:35.400
it was not food, they were
not animals, but tools and things like

666
00:55:35.400 --> 00:55:40.199
that. In those rooms there was
a penetrating smell of something putrid. I

667
00:55:40.280 --> 00:55:44.920
know you' ll think the bathroom
was broken, but the bathroom was far

668
00:55:44.920 --> 00:55:51.239
away. Back there was a bathroom. That was all there was. And

669
00:55:51.320 --> 00:55:54.280
then they didn' t realize a
detail because this was not a house as

670
00:55:54.400 --> 00:55:59.639
such, but it was enabled as
wineries. There wasn' t even a

671
00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:04.639
kitchen, so there was no way
to cook something and no money to buy

672
00:56:04.719 --> 00:56:08.599
a stove or anything. They were
going down there to order food at the

673
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:13.199
little restaurant. She was a very
kind lady, but they always looked weird.

674
00:56:14.679 --> 00:56:20.960
Those young people thought it was because
of their appearance, because they were

675
00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:24.079
foreigners, simply because of the way
they spoke. In Veracruz it is spoken

676
00:56:24.159 --> 00:56:29.159
with a very particular accent. Spanish, but those who came from northern Spain

677
00:56:29.239 --> 00:56:34.000
had a pronunciation, had a cessation
of a different pronunciation of C and z.

678
00:56:35.440 --> 00:56:38.079
It was obvious that they were foreigners
and they thought that that' s

679
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:44.639
why they stayed seeing them two or
three days after being there one good day

680
00:56:44.679 --> 00:56:51.079
asks them that woman hear sorry sir
they plan to stay a long time.

681
00:56:51.679 --> 00:56:55.039
It was an awkward question. They
couldn' t go anywhere, they had

682
00:56:55.079 --> 00:57:00.320
no money to travel anywhere. They
barely had any money to buy food.

683
00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:07.119
The answer was as much as possible. Why do you ask the good thing

684
00:57:08.760 --> 00:57:12.920
is that in this place people who
come to stay don' t stay long.

685
00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:22.519
The answer was not entirely frightening.
Nor was it a statement of horror

686
00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:27.079
simply appreciated the point and said good. We' re waiting for something to

687
00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:34.840
come out of here. Days pass
and then things begin to pass, strange

688
00:57:34.840 --> 00:57:38.480
things suddenly in the middle of the
morning, the youngest son, who must

689
00:57:38.519 --> 00:57:45.360
have been about sixteen years old,
rose up very exalted, very restless,

690
00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:51.960
claiming to have seen things hear things
in the middle of the silence of the

691
00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:55.920
night. It became very tense.
But they all gradually realized why, from

692
00:57:57.000 --> 00:58:00.800
that woman' s question, why
they intend to stay long, because no

693
00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:05.159
one stayed in this place, because
when the few lights that were in the

694
00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:09.920
wolf' s mouth went out.
It was a total darkness and in the

695
00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:16.400
middle of that darkness there were voices
people who spoke that was ugly. Back

696
00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:20.599
there, in the middle of the
walls that had been left, that had

697
00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:25.400
collapsed the roofs, there were voices
heard and they were loud voices so that

698
00:58:25.400 --> 00:58:29.599
from the back to the front it
could be heard. They were male divers.

699
00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:35.639
In the beginning it was only a
hummingbird, as friends talking they realized

700
00:58:35.639 --> 00:58:39.519
that, but there were other days
in which voices were already heard as of

701
00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:47.400
fighting orders, voices of men and
then came those other scary voices screams.

702
00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:53.480
It was a very ugly thing.
They began to be afraid, very afraid

703
00:58:53.519 --> 00:58:58.280
to the point where, instead of
occupying spaces inside that place that was very

704
00:58:58.559 --> 00:59:02.039
wide, but they all said to
go to a single room, accommodate all

705
00:59:02.119 --> 00:59:07.039
the beds in a corner and open
the window in the window was a full

706
00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:10.880
door window, so when opening it
was the avenue, there the streets,

707
00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:15.679
the bustle and let me tell you
that an international port like Veracruz, still

708
00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:22.880
at dawn had movement. They preferred
to hear the noise of the vehicles,

709
00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:28.599
of the shippers, of the whistle, of the ships, to hear that

710
00:59:28.599 --> 00:59:32.559
in the background. There was one
of those occasions. When she came down

711
00:59:32.599 --> 00:59:36.760
to greet the lady at the restaurant, by the way, she was a

712
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:43.960
very nice person, they asked her
what had happened there that if she knew

713
00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:46.159
her, that woman said good.
I don' t know the whole story,

714
00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:52.440
but there must have been some really
ugly things going on here, because

715
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:55.079
when I started working here a few
days later, I had to see a

716
00:59:55.079 --> 01:00:01.599
dead man. Like, a guy
who was renting. One morning he didn

717
01:00:01.760 --> 01:00:05.039
' t leave and two days later
he didn' t leave. No one

718
01:00:05.119 --> 01:00:09.519
saw him until he finally began to
smell in the heat of the tropics and

719
01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:14.400
all that. They called the owner
who came and opened the door and the

720
01:00:14.440 --> 01:00:20.199
boy was dead. He was in
his bed lying like this, with his

721
01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:23.599
eyes wide open, his mouth wide
open. He was dead, he didn

722
01:00:23.679 --> 01:00:25.559
' t have a picket, he
wasn' t hurt. Nobody killed him.

723
01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:31.360
He died there they say he scared
the hell out of what you wanted

724
01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:35.480
the most. Then, the man
from the store next door where they went

725
01:00:35.519 --> 01:00:38.039
to buy a light bulb to put
some more light on, told them that

726
01:00:38.079 --> 01:00:43.679
in that place they had killed some
men many years ago, because the port

727
01:00:43.679 --> 01:00:47.239
of Veracruz was the scene of the
French invasion of a Spanish invasion, of

728
01:00:47.280 --> 01:00:52.199
an American invasion of the United States, and there were shootings here very ugly

729
01:00:52.239 --> 01:00:58.840
things and that there had killed people
and up to the back they had grabbed

730
01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:00.880
as a wall of shooting, a
large wall that there was and there they

731
01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:05.360
had been given. And that'
s why you heard things. Anyone would

732
01:01:05.400 --> 01:01:10.119
have gone true, anyone would have
grabbed his malyija, his three rags that

733
01:01:10.679 --> 01:01:16.239
they brought and heard, but they
could not and could not because there was

734
01:01:16.360 --> 01:01:21.320
no other place to go. The
eldest son had talked with his boss at

735
01:01:21.320 --> 01:01:23.719
the fabric store to see if he
could help him, see if he could

736
01:01:23.840 --> 01:01:29.960
give him a loan, but he
had just arrived, he had just started

737
01:01:30.039 --> 01:01:34.960
working hard. He could buy food
and a little welfare for his brothers and

738
01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:38.239
his mother. The sick father couldn' t work. I was in a

739
01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:42.400
hospital there. All this was adding
up, so they couldn' t leave.

740
01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:49.000
Then it started to happen. Another
brother who said he saw things and

741
01:01:49.039 --> 01:01:53.920
heard things suddenly one day in the
morning, woke up and stopped. Everyone

742
01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:59.199
saw it. He moved over here. He moved over there. There was

743
01:01:59.280 --> 01:02:05.480
nothing going on, agitated, very
exalted. When the mother told her to

744
01:02:05.480 --> 01:02:10.960
go back to bed, the answer
was a series of improper, kind of

745
01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:14.880
like your wife. Don' t
tell me anything, but they noticed a

746
01:02:14.880 --> 01:02:20.920
detail. The boy had no accent
when he spoke. I didn' t

747
01:02:20.960 --> 01:02:24.840
speak with the Spanish accent, with
their own accent. He didn' t

748
01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:29.000
pronounce the letters the same way.
He spoke in a very rare way and

749
01:02:29.039 --> 01:02:31.920
they barely had time to arrive,
he had not even gone to school so

750
01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:38.079
that he had learned Mexican Spanish nothing
seemed to be another person. He acted

751
01:02:38.159 --> 01:02:44.559
differently, demanded things, shouted,
groped, tried to sit him down and

752
01:02:44.559 --> 01:02:47.559
couldn' t. It was a
very tense moment. The older brother was

753
01:02:47.639 --> 01:02:51.679
already starting to smoke and he had
a pack of cigarettes and the boy went

754
01:02:51.679 --> 01:02:55.679
and grabbed a cigarette and smoked it
like a professional, when he had never

755
01:02:55.719 --> 01:03:00.960
actually seen him smoke and never smoked. Obviously, the words he used were

756
01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:06.280
different and suddenly he fell down,
lay down and fell asleep. But that

757
01:03:06.360 --> 01:03:09.039
was only the beginning. As the
days passed, this became much more evident

758
01:03:09.119 --> 01:03:15.480
and it also became evident that it
was uncontrollable at dawn almost knocked down to

759
01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:20.159
the door and went out and walked
just back, towards the place where the

760
01:03:20.480 --> 01:03:25.599
screams and those strange things were heard. The older brother wanted to go,

761
01:03:25.800 --> 01:03:28.719
but the mom stopped him. He
said don' t go, son.

762
01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:31.039
This is so bad. Holy Christ, deliver us from all evil. I

763
01:03:31.119 --> 01:03:37.480
don' t know how much she
started rubbing. Lady at Dawn was sitting

764
01:03:37.559 --> 01:03:40.599
out there in the hallway. The
brother didn' t know what he was

765
01:03:40.599 --> 01:03:44.559
doing there, he was confused and
he didn' t know how he got

766
01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:49.039
out. In the following days,
this got worse because it was becoming more

767
01:03:49.159 --> 01:03:52.559
and more evident that at night that
was not his son, but at Dawn

768
01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:58.960
he was disoriented and did not even
know who he was. On one of

769
01:03:58.960 --> 01:04:03.679
those occasions, when the brother tried
to control him, he turned so strongly

770
01:04:03.840 --> 01:04:06.360
that he knocked him out. He
gave him two or three blows, very

771
01:04:06.360 --> 01:04:11.559
strong, as a professional, as
a street fighter, as someone did,

772
01:04:12.039 --> 01:04:15.679
he beat him, he left him
lying down and the older brother was much

773
01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:19.679
bigger, he was a very strong
man and yet that boy who was more

774
01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:27.880
of a complexion, sick and fragile, had left the older brother lying there

775
01:04:27.920 --> 01:04:31.559
and went to the back rooms.
That day, when the older brother went

776
01:04:31.559 --> 01:04:36.079
to work, the boss called him
and told him what happened to you,

777
01:04:36.719 --> 01:04:40.960
or because you' re like this, you can' t work selling fabric.

778
01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:43.760
See how you come with your face
and he told her my brother'

779
01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:46.800
s very bad. I think he
didn' t like being in this country

780
01:04:46.840 --> 01:04:51.760
and we don' t know what
to do and the house doesn' t

781
01:04:51.880 --> 01:04:57.320
know how much he told him to
see Wait, wait, wait, you

782
01:04:57.320 --> 01:04:58.360
got hit by your brother, the
skinny one. This one, yes,

783
01:04:58.440 --> 01:05:00.039
and how he could have hit you. It' s just not. I

784
01:05:00.119 --> 01:05:02.280
can' t control it. He' s got incredible strength and suddenly he

785
01:05:02.320 --> 01:05:04.480
talks like he' s not Spanish, he talks like Mexican. I don

786
01:05:04.480 --> 01:05:08.840
' t know how much curse you
add to my mother' s beating,

787
01:05:10.599 --> 01:05:11.320
I don' t know how much, son like that of so many.

788
01:05:11.519 --> 01:05:15.159
That Spanish friend tells him why you
don' t talk to Fulano about such

789
01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:18.480
in the Warehouse. He knows a
lot about these things and he' s

790
01:05:18.480 --> 01:05:21.960
going to guide you. He went
to the Warehouse to talk to Fulano about

791
01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:26.800
such that he was a man who
came from Alvarado, which is a community

792
01:05:26.840 --> 01:05:30.360
that is later and of alvarado upwards, towards the mountain, he is in

793
01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:34.519
a place of witches and witches,
which is catemaco. That man said good

794
01:05:34.599 --> 01:05:39.039
to him. What you' re
telling me is that he brings a dead

795
01:05:39.119 --> 01:05:41.559
man inside your brother, and that' s very serious. He' s

796
01:05:41.559 --> 01:05:45.280
gonna finish it. He' s
eating, no, he' s not

797
01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:48.960
eating, he' s sleeping,
he' s not sleeping, he'

798
01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:50.639
s hanging around back there every night. Then he' s gonna finish it.

799
01:05:51.320 --> 01:05:59.000
You need to cure him Look,
go with such a person in such

800
01:05:59.039 --> 01:06:02.239
a part Take him, make sure
he doesn' t say anything to him,

801
01:06:02.239 --> 01:06:03.679
and you' ll see, and
he did. He asked permission because

802
01:06:03.800 --> 01:06:08.079
he worked from Monday to Monday in
the business, that he had no rest

803
01:06:08.119 --> 01:06:14.559
days as they arrived. They were
immigrants, as that relative took advantage of

804
01:06:14.719 --> 01:06:18.119
it and it was working from eight
in the morning to ten in the evening

805
01:06:18.159 --> 01:06:23.519
of Monday until Monday. So he
asked for a permit. He had some

806
01:06:23.559 --> 01:06:27.599
fish that he had kept and with
that he took a transport with his brother

807
01:06:27.639 --> 01:06:29.960
to go to visit something for I
don' t know how much, and

808
01:06:29.960 --> 01:06:30.519
they came to that place. Just
across the door. The woman was told

809
01:06:30.599 --> 01:06:34.119
you brought a dead man and he' s a dead man of many years.

810
01:06:35.400 --> 01:06:40.920
He did his things, a lot
of things. I don' t

811
01:06:40.960 --> 01:06:45.199
know what the details were, but
they said it took a long time until

812
01:06:45.239 --> 01:06:48.360
suddenly the brother came out, making
his stomach very decomposed. He looked like

813
01:06:48.480 --> 01:06:55.599
he was dying, but he was
fine. That day they returned to the

814
01:06:55.599 --> 01:07:00.199
house, grabbed their bags, talked
to the lady of the bargain downstairs.

815
01:07:00.599 --> 01:07:03.920
They had made good friends with her
and the lady admitted them to her house

816
01:07:03.960 --> 01:07:09.480
gave them a room where they could
stay safe and quiet. Soon after,

817
01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:13.400
another relative of them, who was
in Mexico City, sent for them and

818
01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:16.519
they went there, and there they
began to make profit people, to have

819
01:07:16.519 --> 01:07:20.920
business, to grow up and never
again had problems of that kind. Or

820
01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:26.840
that, of course, from time
to time the older brother came back to

821
01:07:26.920 --> 01:07:30.320
Veracruz just to visit that place and
never stopped going to see the lady who

822
01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:33.440
became old. And every time I
visited the lady I told her a new

823
01:07:33.519 --> 01:07:42.039
story, because every time someone came
in, someone like them, horrible things

824
01:07:42.039 --> 01:07:48.320
happened to them and after the years
there were more dead until one day the

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house fell on its own. Today
there is something else, another building,

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another new thing. So I already
told you, when you walk down a

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street in an old town, it
may be that that building looks new,

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but who knows what stories are behind
it. And surely in that new building

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it still remains in memories of a
terrible past. Now I' m going

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to talk to you about another one, which is a little different. Already

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to close this program Santino tells us
an experience that his family lived many years

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ago in Viña del Mar, Chile. They came to an old house,

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a very old house, was in
good condition and was spacious, a spacious

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house. So Grandma went to sleep
in the upstairs room with her two little

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dogs. The mom went to sleep
in a room downstairs and there was a

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wooden ladder of those old ladies that
went up and on and on. Everything

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was fine. The house was fresh, comfortable, spacious, you could be

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there. Nothing had happened until one
good day, all of a sudden the

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bitches had two of those company dogs. Grandma had her little dogs. They

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barked and barked like crazy. They
were educated, they were little animals,

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accustomed to the fact that when the
owner went to sleep, the little dogs

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lay on their bed. When the
owner got up early, she opened them

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up and led them to go to
their needs. They didn' t used

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to be annoying, especially at night, unless something special happened. They barked,

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but suddenly they started barking and casually
barking towards the door. Grandma didn

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' t pay much attention to them, and the little dogs didn' t

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come out, but came back and
hid. It was totally weird that one

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day Grandma has to go to something. I was gonna be at a relative

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' s house. That night the
mother is left alone at a certain time.

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The bitches are going to their bed. They' re animals of habit

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They climb the stairs and go to
the room. Suddenly in the morning,

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the mother listens to a moving animal, a dog, a dog you have

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already heard on solid floors, not
on carpets, but on floors of solid

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material like stone marble. When a
dog walks, you hear the fingering and

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she listens to that and hears how
the ladder goes up and the first thing

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she thinks is the bitches. Strange
but the animal is very heavy, because,

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in fact, when it goes up
the ladder is heard as creaking and

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the dogs were small, small or
one of those things. Then listen to

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him again when he comes down and
hears how he walks around and surprises him.

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A few days later she listens to
him again and talks to Grandma and

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Grandma tells her, no, mija, what she' s going to do.

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That' s nonsense for you to
spend the days and keep listening to

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it. But Grandma' s already
in the house and the bitches are sleeping

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with her, with the door locked, and every time you hear that,

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the bitches are barking all over that
one day this is happening, Mom,

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why don' t you believe me. No. That' s total nonsense.

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One of those nights gets ready and
when he hears those little bumps from

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the dog' s fingernails. He
runs up to see his mom and the

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mom wakes up all angry and tells
him again bothering With that he says come

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mom, come down and lie down
there in his bed. Mom tells her

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I' m going to sleep now
what nonsense these are. When all of

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a sudden they listen to Pa.
Pa, Pa? Pa? Pa?

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Pa, outside the room and then
listen to ta ta ta, Ta tata,

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how she' s going up the
stairs. You can hear the taping

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of the joints and the tapping of
very large footprints. Only the little dogs

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were locked in the upstairs room and
at that moment they start to hear how

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they scream, how they bark.
And that' s when Grandma wakes up

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very well and starts praying. There
was nowhere a dog would go. It

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was a ghostly dog going was the
story. Who knows. They left that

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house, went to live somewhere else
because you couldn' t be there and

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they were right about that. Many
times these manifestations, which in principle would

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appear to be harmless, may be
the prelude to something much more serious.

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Sometimes these phenomena are a prior stage. They begin to soften people, to

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soften them, to take away your
defense, to make you feel that nothing

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happens until suddenly what I told you
about Veracruz happens and eventually you can no

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longer be what you would think about
all this. Very good night, thank

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you for joining me and rest in
peace or