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Three hello everyone as it is there. My name is Juan Jesús Vallejo,

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the journalist, writer and director of
the Mystery Night program on Caracol Radio.

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Our story is full of exciting facts
and great unknowns look at you. For

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example, in this history, between
the 17th and 18th centuries, an Italian

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luthia Antonio Stradivari was able to make
the most perfect violins ever made. Moreover,

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some of them have already been auctioned
for more than$ 10 million.

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But no one understands why their sound
is so perfect. It is by some

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shade of wood or, for example, in the chemistry of varnish that this

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man used what makes them sound so
special. But this is not the only

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relevant case that raises many questions about
our past. For example, it is

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necessary to investigate many things that happened
in ancient Nazi Germany, where the annenerve

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was created a whole group of intellectuals
who investigated hidden stories, coming to discover

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much more than you can imagine.
But if you want to know about this

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and much more, don' t
miss the last mystery night podcast on Caracol

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Radio Unknown story mystery night Juan Jesús
Vallejo. In a thousand nine hundred and

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thirty- five. All Germany was
under the Nazi nightmare. The world was

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still not able to see how far
that madness was going to go, to

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provoke World War II and just over
fifty million dead. At that time,

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however, amazing things also happened,
things that are still worthy of study and

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reflection today. I hate everything that
has to do with the Nazis, especially

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because they were racist and supremacists,
especially because they thought they could conquer countries

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and that they were superior to the
rest of the world. However, I

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repeat it is a time when amazing
things happened, which are worthy today to

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continue to be studied, because in
addition, they left us endless riddles in

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history. And I want to tell
you how, one day in July of

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the year nineteen hundred and thirty-
five, the one who was the right

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hand of the theater, Heinrid Hindler, the man the second most powerful man

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in the Nazi regime, created the
study society for the ancient history of the

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spirit known as the annenerve. And
it is curious how in this way,

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Henri Chindler and the entire Nazi Party
unfailingly supported all that was science and knowledge.

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They supported science so much that thousands
of patents were created during Nazi Germany.

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For example, the rockets that man
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designed by Ernest bon Brown, were
science supported by the Nazis. The first

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jets in history, the Messermich,
were science supported by the Nazis. But

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not only did they remain in the
support of science, but they also supported

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research into anything that had to do
with knowledge. When the annerve was created,

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a whole group of intellectuals to investigate
the strangest aspects of our past.

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I have to say that when I
mention this, I feel a certain envy,

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because I would have loved to work
in the annerve. One of the

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first investigations they had to do was
on the runes and one or secret the

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words. The ancient Nordic letters and
also the Nordic magic symbolology. And one

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of those runes, the rune of
life, was the symbol of the annerve.

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But the annerve came to have forty- three departments. There was one

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department, for example, for the
study of world legends, another for the

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study of sacred geography. They had
a paranormal science department. They created such

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a great empire because they never ever
limited their minds. They were able to

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open themselves to any kind of knowledge
and understood that researching that knowledge was fundamental

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to the development of a Germany as
a superpower. They tried to recover all

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the German pagan traditions to end Christianity, which they thought were a religion of

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the weak and from there also happened
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In the year nineteen hundred and forty- one, for example, Rudolf Hess,

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the third most powerful man in the
Nazi Empire, flew to Scotland to

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try to talk to We are not
clear who even say that with Guston Churchill

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himself, Britain returned Rudol HeS in
an incredible way and still today, the

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British secret archives that speak of the
arrival of Rudolphe remain unclassified. And this

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had to do with the Annenerve and
the investigations that this entity was doing sending

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Rudolphess, the third most important man
in the Nazi regime, to England when

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they were already in full war with
them. But not only that was the

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creation in the 1930s of Belvesburg Castle, a castle that he wanted recast again

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what the ancient Arthurian myths were.
There a special Henrich Himler room was sitting,

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along with twelve other SS members the
personal guard of the Theater. But

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don' t think Beldersburg Castle was
just a castle. In a group of

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fanfare, they sat around a table
and said stupid things. In Belvesburg the

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Nazis made clear what they wanted to
be part of their empire. A library

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of more than 12, 000 volumes, where sacred objects, such as the

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Holy Grail, the Ark of the
Covenant, were spoken of, objects that

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were sought by the Nazis. Some
of those objects such as, for example,

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longines, for example, what is
the spear that supposedly crosses the Costado

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de Cristo, which was recovered from
Vienna, ended up in his power and

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in the castle of Belvesburg there were
a lot of holes to go putting those

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relics that were searching for the world. And it is curious because, when

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the Nazi regime collapsed in a thousand
nine hundred and forty- five, the

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first to enter the anenerbe are the
Soviets, nothing remained. We don'

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t know if they found any kind
of relics or sacred objects that we still

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don' t know where they are
today. There are conspiracies that tell us

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that their objects may be hidden in
Antarctica, South America or in some lake

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in Europe. The point is that, I repeat, this story is worth

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investigating, because notice that the Nazis
were fools, criminals, murderers, racists,

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but to have such an open mind
and to support knowledge and science without

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fissures made them have the greatest technological
development in less years than the entire history

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of humanity. A real feat that
I believe continues to give us today a

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message. When you investigate history,
when you look at the reality around us,

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do not put barriers in your mind, let your mind fly, because

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when the mind flies, you can
find hidden truths that today can try to

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be revealed. My name is Juan
Jesús Vallejo. What you want to follow

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me on social networks, in my
twitters atróba Juang Vallejo, Juan j Vallejo,

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on Instagram, on Facebook Juan Jesús
Vallejo. And this is another mystery

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night show. And here what we
do is mystery journalism. We put the

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facts on the table and you decide
what' s behind it and what'

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s not. To see the strangest
aspects of our past, which is the

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one that most troubles you, what
story, how the great pyramid that happened

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on Easter Island was made, what
medicine was like in ancient times, how

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it developed, how the walls of
Saxahuaiman were created in Peru, in the

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Inca Empire what is the episode of
the ignored history that most surprises you that

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this is the program today. That' s why I started with this introduction

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talking about the baby and how the
Nazis did see our past in a fantastic

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way, but to dig it up
and try to look for a lot of

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stories that got lost good guys,
I' ve been almost two months away

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from Bogotá. If you notice that
tonight everyone or something here, Alejandro Bernal

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will be on the take because you
have come with a rather important bronchitis problem.

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I' ve traveled the way to
Santiago in these two months. I

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' ve been traveling around Morocco.
The people who follow me on social networks

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will have seen video I come.
It' s been a short week.

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I was in Turkey watching the temples
of gobe clipe the oldest temples in the

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world. In those journeys of author
that I make with you, to the

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people of the mystery family, a
family of mystery and all the people who

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have traveled with me on these two
journeys Camino de Santiago and Turkey, a

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strong embrace to all and a great
affection to all because you do not imagine.

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Well, then, how is this
atmosphere of beautiful people looking for spirituality

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on the Way of James or looking
for pure and hard mystery and also spirituality

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in Turkey. For me it is
a pleasure to make that kind of trip

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and, although I have arrived exhausted
as on this occasion, tremendously happy to

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be here, I realize that,
although I am a citizen of the world,

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my home and my home are in
Bogotá. I am tremendously happy to

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be here again in my home,
in this country that is my home,

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with its flaws and virtues, as
any country in the world has, and

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I' ve already zapped every day
a couple of arepas that don' t

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imagine what missed them, so I' m happy to be around again.

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Well, you know that all these
author trips are on a website that is

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Juan Jesús Vallejo trip. Com from
22 September to 1 October of this year,

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I am making a trip to Egypt, to sail that river Nile so

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that you can understand magic that has
been written in its temples for thousands of

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years, that give few squares,
but there are still places for that trip.

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I repeat, 22 September to 1
October. There are people who ask

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me Egypt, my God, what
fear, because Aganza is next door and

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so Egypt is not involved in the
conflict in Israel. He' s a

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super safe country if not hate.
I wouldn' t go. I have

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friends who have been there this very
week There is everything super normal and,

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besides, it is the perfect year
to go to Egypt, because half the

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people of conventional tourism will go,
with which and then they will want to

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go again all. So nothing I
mean, I encourage you to do whatever

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you want. That trip from September
22nd to October and we started without any

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further direction. Alejandro Bernal won that
he didn' t see you for almost

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two months. You can' t
imagine how many people have asked me about

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you on the journeys Juan I sa
ludo for You, for all the companions

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of you that you had on these
trips, on this journey through the old

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continent, for your country. A
greeting for Richie also, of course,

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a huge hug for the people who
consume this content through the podcast that we

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publish every week on the YouTube channel
of Caracol Radio Juan Gess. It'

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s wonderful to be back here again
in the cabin looking at our faces.

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I think the magic of making live
radio is something else. I didn'

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t already have a win, lack
of trementa the sight that we do a

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lot of program putting interviews, and
such because it is also a complex schedule.

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I have to understand that people have
been with us on Saturday night,

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because they have been with us many
times in the family and we have a

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detailed interview, but this small part
of making radio live. I used to

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throw him out of menon buff a
barbarity. Not good enough that we burn

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radio for us is in our life, what we are doing right now in

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front of the microphone about your wonderful
introduction, juanje and it must be remembered

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that you and I said at some
point that, without being sympathizers of the

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national socialists, we run away worked
in the enervi or be happy to have

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that budget to investigate the Holy Grail, the Ark of the Alliance, please

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call me and clear and also,
making expeditions to the city of Atanis in

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Egypt, making expeditions in Tibet,
for example, doing expeditions in the south

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of France, looking for the Holy
Agriar, doing expeditions in the Caucasus,

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that some years ago there were remnants
of dan Energe, that is, looking

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for the Atlantida in Bolivia, Juan
Ge, that is to say, it

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was a Vergel. The greatest intellectuals
and the greatest experts in mystery and Gnosticism

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were part of the baby boiled at
the time Juange. So wonderful that tour

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you were doing And on this occasion
we are going to have as a guest

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David Zurdo, a man who is
going to make us a very interesting tour,

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that will show us that not everything
ancient is archaic, but that there

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are many developments throughout Juange history that
even surpass current technology and that there is

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an unknown story, an unknown story
that is worth reviving, as did the

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ann in Herbe about that. That' s why I took that as a

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reference and before I started the interview
with David Zurdo. If I told you

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what the unknown story is or the
ignored story, which you love the most,

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which you would like the most,
then juange. You know I'

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m obsessed with pyramids. Someday I' ll go with you, but I

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' ll explain to someone how he
did that. I mean, I know

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there' s a lot of theories, there' s a lot of hypotheses,

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but for me the great secret of
what technology and what knowledge it was

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made with was created that impressive monument
is a real obsession. For me it

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is a world icon notice that many
years ago, when we did a chain

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vote, it was when I worked
at Millennial Tres WOW, more than fifteen

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years ago, a vote was taken
on what the object was the most mysterious

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thing in the world. And until
the last day I was winning the syndon

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and the last one say the great
pyramid that I' ve been supporting.

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I hate that I understood it to
be the icon of mystery worldwide. And

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when you' re in front,
you feel so small that that feeling that

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you' re commenting on now is
multiplying by ten. Wow. Yeah,

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' cause it' s not big
and ridiculous. One thing is done that

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says to see that I travel the
world. I' ve never seen anything

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like this, but not even minimally
similar. So, then, of course,

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something that impacts And well, gentlemen, the interview with David' s

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left- handedness starts. Oh yeah, and today I' m lucky to

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have here that I haven' t
had my good friend David Zurdo for centuries.

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David, how macho, how long
without seeing you, uncle yes,

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yes, juage that it was about
time, no longer needed. It is

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true that the mutual rivers, because
they have prevented us from connecting or getting

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the agendas to fit before. But
you know that I' ve loved being

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with you and talking about issues that
are passionate to you, to me and

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to me what everyone. Well,
then, thank you so much for making

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a hole in your schedule. It
must be said that David Zurdo, a

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writer, a journalist, is a
writer. How many novels you have published

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David and how many languages they have
translated novels. I think there are fourteen

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or fifteen languages to nineteen and books
in total more than fifty. But,

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well, there' s everything too
and with pseudonym and all kinds of novel

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things. Of course they are less
put on to make them sobvio, but

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they are fourteen or fifteen what lidad. And I, with seven books,

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thought I' d written a lot
of stain until I met you. But,

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well, there' s worse.
There' s worse. Yeah,

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yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Nothing, nothing, because novels and

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books are highly recommended. I hope
by Amazon you can get some here in

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Latin America. Anyway, hey,
David thought I' d make a potpourri

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out of what mysteries and riddles have
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Says the journalist you have a book
called a hundred mystery, which you published

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a few years ago, what pushed
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the mysteries that hit you the most. Well, it' s a book

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I wrote with journalist José María Inigo. A monster from the television media,

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from the radio, has already passed
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practically taught me, for almost everything
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that, to dedicate myself also to
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radio, also the incursions on television. With himself I was in some program

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and the truth is that he was
the one who brought the mystery to Spain

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to television before the mythical programs of
Dr Jiméndez del Oso and those who came

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after him were not programs dedicated only
to mystery, but he was very interested,

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and then his programs, which were
Lay Knights, which would now be

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called more form of interviews, because
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many times to someone related to the
world of mystery that besides and I make

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a small point, I asked him
but you believed in it and said look.

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I preferred not to think, because
there were very rare things Sometimes and

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I said I don' t want, but he was very interested then,

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taking advantage of that, he tube
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I remember cug was mythical. Well, José Maria came in good. This

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program is heard a lot in Latin
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everyone knows who is Ciñigo. And
it' s just that I remember that

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once he came on a show of
his to some kind of saying that he

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was an alchemist and turned lead into
gold a move. So I know I

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think I still live today on the
Internet, but no one. No one

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could get him to fraud The guy
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live. First it was direct.
Then the guy was called Risa Saanfer was

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a Frenchman who, also in the
singer was married also to another singer more

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famous than him. Duality is a
very rare thing, but he said something

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like that it was the reincarnation of
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and live. He did it there, for it would be a trick of

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prestidigitation. I don' t say
that I don' t know what he

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did, but there were jewelers,
there were chemicals that were there with him,

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but with him half a meter from
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there on a thing with a lead
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I don' t know if it
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the previous test in France to bring
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but here I don' t know
if it was one of the jewelers or

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one of the chemists who had made
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into gold and did the tests that
were done to confirm that something is time,

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even if you can' t know
that the law if it' s

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twenty- four kilates of twenty or
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was gold. There I don'
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t do it, but the fact
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at least in these matters. I
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certain choice that doesn' t mean
we' re either gullible or naive,

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is that when something we can'
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t do is directly and simply deny
if it' s there. This gentleman

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probably did a trick at ninety-
nine comma nine percent, but that zero

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comma one percent is very valuable and
very interesting from the intellectual point of view,

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I think, because sometimes good when
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famous. This is if you don' t believe anything, because sometimes you

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' re going to let go of
things that are very interesting in life and,

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above all, that the facts are
what they are. I think just

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like you with ninety- nine comma
ninety- nine percent, this gentleman did

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was a pre- pre- pre- distictation trick, that is, the

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word of illusionism, which he did
very well, because he didn' t

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catch anyone worth it. He made
it super cool, which also has its

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merit. Now we' re going
to get into another mystery series It'

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s okay that they' re there
and they seem fascinating to me, that

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they have nothing to do with a
man who goes to a TV show and

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charges money for making a sheath,
but they' re facts and evidence and

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things that are there and that challenge
us. Well, I think it'

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s always between mystery journalism and skepticism. The scepticism that every day is more

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stale, that is, it is
negationism, that is. I don'

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t even mean the videos are m
from the pentagon. Not that, it

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doesn' t exist. But if
it comes out pentagon liberal, if they

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are there, if we are tempted, has appointed a director to investigate it,

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then at least it must be admitted
that they will not be aliens if

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it is enough, but man who
do not know what they are, but

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who says it Congress of the United
States and accepts it Nassa. What else

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you got? Yeah? Yeah?
Yeah? Yeah? What more beings?

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Yeah? Is it brutal? Dude, is it brutal? Let' s

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start doing a little review of the
story taken a little bit like Script your

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book of the hundred mysteries Look.
I have picked up a number of themes

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here and one of those that I
am passionate about as the cover that I

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have behind me is the ancient Egypt. And you. One of the mysteries

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it puts is medicine in ancient Egypt, because thousands of years ago it reached

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some levels that today seem impossible to
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the headline would be this one.
They were the first doctors to deserve the

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title of doctors, not healers or
shamans, but doctors. They were called

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Sunu Sunus I do not know very
well what it is, because you know

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that of course, the transcripts of
the Egyptian are very complicated. I have

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heard Sunusnu say that if it comes
from the Anglo- Saxon world and in

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fact there is a very famous novel. Some say that it is the first

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modern historical novel, which is sinue
the Egyptian of Mika Baltar and curiously goes

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to the protagonist sinue is one of
these ZUU, a doctor who was formed

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in the house of life. And
the interesting thing about it is that at

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that time the Egyptians began to take
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Why. Because ancient times thought,
for example, a disease is given to

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you by the gods, so what
did the doctors, including the Egyptians,

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still threaten the gods with hear if
you don' t cure this sick person,

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they won' t make vows to
you or they won' t take

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you here or they won' t
worship you or you' ll be forgotten.

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He did that kind of thing,
but the first ones who realize that

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the disease may come from outside the
body. Not all of them, and

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I say, are obviously not modern
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They were the first to realize this. So really, because I don'

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t know how to compare them with
those that existed in the world let'

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s say ancient, and then later
entering the Greek or Greco- Roman world,

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for the Egyptians were the first to
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think that, at the very least, it must be claimed, because perhaps

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we have kept the part I say
in a more folkloric general sense that hears

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super interesting Egypt. Their image,
that attraction that has all the old construction,

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but they have a lot more.
They' ve got a lot more.

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For example, the Egyptians also had
board games. Now that we'

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ve said about prestidigitation. They had
and were very fond of magic and,

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in fact, they took it as
something they already knew was false. I

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mean, we couldn' t think
they weren' t fools. The ancients

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didn' t know it was a
trick, but they loved it. As

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today, of course, magicians prefer
people who like to see the trick that

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tries to break it. Well,
for the Egyptians it was this and I

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say as far as the doctors are
concerned, those Sunu are the first ones

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who deserve the title. They deserve
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in history. Name. It'
s funny here a number of things.

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For example, one goes to the
dual temple of Conombo and in the dual

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temple of Conombo, at the end
that it is, there is a series

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of engraving with the surgical material of
the time thousands of years ago of the

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temple Conombos, a hallucinating tolemaic reconstruction. I have been with doctors there and

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I have been told Juan ge It
is that the instruments are exactly the same

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as those I have in the operating
room Today there is a character who investigated

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clearly that there is a very curious
character who is owed that he is considered

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the father of Egyptian medicine, which
is without hottet Inhoter left us hundreds of

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healing formula. I mean, if
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gotta give him honey with I don' t know what? With Tacataco,

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I don' t know what?
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and Jote also says he was behind
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look you' re saying it.
They' re prescriptions. It is not

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only psalms or prayers to implore that
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is what makes the difference. That' s what makes a difference. Yeah,

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anyway, inside the Egyptian doctors there
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was I don' t know if
I knew, the poop testers. Not

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the poop testers. There were no
human poop testers because they put a stick

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in the tongue depending on what the
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Ah it was an analysis of Ephesians
but the old clear, indeed,

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yes, but notice that this we
can laugh. But the Greeks later said

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myths as if, for example,
I think it had been not sure whether

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the son or the great disciple of
esculapio of the god of medicine who had

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torn his head that to make him
some kind of healing, obviously had not

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healed and had put God there to
screw his head back so that he would

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continue to live. And that'
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were already doing. What you'
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in perspective. It' s really
amazing in this there are many more things.

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me fundamental. We have to put

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it in perspective. It must be
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the Egyptian, because they did not
stay, that we had a spiritual sea,

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that they also thought yes, of
course, but they wrote that recipe

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for them to pass from one to
another. For evils. They created surgical

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instruments, performed surgical interventions, created
a birth chair so that women could give

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birth at the back of the temple
in Conombo, the largest instrument that is

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reflected is a birth chair for women, as they squatted, clear in what

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position and how to make them as
little pain as possible. Start using anesthetics

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like the opium case and they really
were geniuses, I mean, they were

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geniuses because, besides, I think
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empire and all paleces take many centuries
to get that vision back, especially because

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Christianity forbade everything, everything was satanic
and everything was terrible. Exactly John Gei,

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as David Zurdo, forerunners of bacteriology, told us, that is,

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what they were explaining about these gentlemen
who were trying the stern, as John

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Jesus rightly said, is basically what
is being done today through instruments is done

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in this case by experts in bacteriology
who imagine the level of progress from that

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point of view of medicine that the
former Egyptian John had that yes, indeed,

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cured fractures all super super well,
that is, authentic geniuses the Egyptians.

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And we' re still here on
mystery night. We were talking to

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David Zurdo about the wonder of ancient
times, Egyptian medicine, the creation of

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modern medicine. As man takes advantage
of the knowledge of natural elements to create

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recipes and be able to cure and
not only recipe, but surgical material to

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be able to operate and be able
to end different diseases. And the interview

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with David Zurdo continues ah Yes,
yes, yes, the ancient Egypt,

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the truth is good, as the
Claine of the Ministry of Tourism says,

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Egypt the country where everything began and
is true clear. Yes, yes,

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that is, all the modern arts
science all start in Egypt, although also

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the ancient Sumeria had yes. Obviously, it doesn' t come out to

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anything, but it' s true
that it' s where you can say

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that the cauldron is the center.
Yes, the first city, yes,

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the first necropolis built in stone to
history, the first stone building in history.

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To this day it remains the great
pyramid of Thoseth more than four thousand

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five hundred years ago and, moreover, incredible, as they do the gate

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of the Necropolis of Sakara. All
polished perfect. That is the truth that

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they are a thing that seems to
be from another world that has then evolved,

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by the way, because after they
stopped knowing how to make certain constructions

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when they had, say, been
a period without doing it. Those also

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give us an idea of what they
did was difficult. Not only look at

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the constructions, even things that,
from the point of view, are a

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little bit more curious. The carving
of the diorite right now is a stone

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of hardness nine hard avente sheath.
The statue that Fren is made of orite

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of tremendous hardness just like Fren was
four thousand five hundred years ago after now

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carved little or nothing zero at the
beginning glass of horita. That statue and

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now that Fren carved super well the
basalt that also very hard and then they

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stopped doing it. They didn'
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Of course they didn' t know
how to do it. That'

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s why, yes. That'
s why there' s a theory that

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is that they say that, maybe, these techniques came from a world before

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our world kind of lanced or things
like that and so they do melbo as

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we want, because there they don' t get whimsical and they think that

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this is a raving. No.
No. First of all it doesn'

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t have to be by itself,
but you can even talk about it as

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a metaphorical concept, an earlier civilization, a golden age. You don'

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t usually say you' re uncle
before. And that' s not crazy.

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We don' t know if it' s true, but it certainly

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isn' t crazy. No,
no, and besides, the Egyptians have

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it in their own legends. Increasing
the land of ancestors, where men and

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gods lived together and other civilizations.
Of course, yes, yes, indeed,

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with which one must be attentive to
that. But, well, in

409
00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:28.279
your book, a hundred mysteries,
you put in male things that I'

410
00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:31.799
ve never read before, and it' s, for example, why the

411
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:36.839
Stradivarius violins are the ones that sound
the best in the world and there'

412
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.160
s been no balls for a lutier
to make you a violin like the Extradivarius,

413
00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:40.200
which I don' t know what
it costs at an auction. But

414
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:45.160
I think that if several billion such
depends on the Stradivari and because they are

415
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:49.160
not all the same, for example, we are going to go in parts,

416
00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:52.319
because this is all very complex.
I have always been fascinated by the

417
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:57.000
violin, because it is what could
be called the first perfect instrument, the

418
00:32:57.039 --> 00:32:59.880
first musical instrument created by the human
being. We do not speak of the

419
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:01.720
voice, which is always said to
be even more perfect of the instruments,

420
00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:06.440
but created by the human being,
it is the first that achieves perfection before

421
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:10.000
and since then the yoli of a
thousand seven hundred much are already manufactured.

422
00:33:10.119 --> 00:33:16.359
Let' s say following the same
pattern Escladivari had a neighbor in Cremona because

423
00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:19.319
it was the best place. In
other words, they are said to be

424
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:22.759
overtotaling for the wood that was in
that area a forest that had a series.

425
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:24.680
Let' s say very hard winters
that made the wood very dense.

426
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:29.359
And then that' s also part
of the secret of these great luthiers,

427
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:31.640
like this one from Varius, which
is the most famous, but the neighbor

428
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:38.960
was WARNERI Warnery from YESU Then he
signed that is going to say equivalent to

429
00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:44.000
Estradivarison. They are just as good, so to name them the Paganini violinists,

430
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:46.920
the perhaps most famous violinist in history, before in our time it is

431
00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:52.160
already taught in music academies also that
there are a hundred or two hundred or

432
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:54.279
three hundred paganinis to daism around swarming
around the world. In the nineteenth century

433
00:33:54.319 --> 00:33:58.759
there were only two Paganini Sarasate who
was Spanish, who were of the same

434
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:01.920
level. Well, then Paganini preferred
to use a warnerri rather than a stativari,

435
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:06.720
why, because it sounded stronger and
he already realized that people applauded more

436
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:10.559
if it was soaring stronger than something
they spoke very well. The eye was

437
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:15.800
also called the cannon, the violin
and the canon. Well, the point

438
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:19.079
is that that wood that, by
the way, a luthier today can go

439
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:23.480
to cremona and buy, because it
is stored in wood stores to make a

440
00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:28.480
new violin, an anchelo or whatever, or a viola with wood of the

441
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:32.400
same wood that Stradivari Warneri used in
his day or the rest of the neighbors

442
00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:37.239
of that street where the luthiers were. Well, here' s the thing.

443
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:42.360
No one has succeeded in replicating the
sound of a Stradivarius, but it

444
00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:44.239
is also because it is very difficult
to know whether it succeeds or not.

445
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:47.840
The wood of a violin improves over
time and with what is played unlike,

446
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:52.800
for example, a piano, a
piano sounds the best day that sounds is

447
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:55.440
the day that leaves the factory and
from there it goes worse. It deteriorates,

448
00:34:57.000 --> 00:34:59.440
it deteriorates, it feels bad to
the wood of the sound, but

449
00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:04.000
the violin. Then what happens that
until two hundred years go by we won

450
00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:07.480
' t know if someone today has
managed to stage a stand. There'

451
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:09.880
s a professor from the University of
Texas who gives tam or this one from

452
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:13.960
Texas. I think that' s
the one he said he got. APA

453
00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:19.000
has made some auditory spectra and such
the sound of estadivar and by means of

454
00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:21.480
a mixture, that is, it
attributes it more than to wood to a

455
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:23.400
varnish. A varnish that, by
the way, juange has many legends,

456
00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:29.039
those varnishes of the stativaries, because
it was also said that they could have

457
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:34.079
human blood, because he had written
in a Bible, at the end of

458
00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:37.679
the Bible, in the recipe of
that secret varnish that had then disappeared with

459
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:40.920
the time that or that he had
been burned by one of his relatives in

460
00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:44.480
an outburst. Well, I'
ll be a devil or something. Then

461
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:47.920
the legends are very beautiful, because
in the end the music is said to

462
00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:52.559
be the good one, because the
language to speak to God does not,

463
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:54.039
but for some it would also be
the language to speak to the devil.

464
00:35:54.760 --> 00:35:58.840
That' s what the triton did
The famous triton, which was forbidden.

465
00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:00.519
You weren' t burned by the
bonfire you' ve come to say for

466
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:06.079
using it. But that is to
say, a musical formula that if you

467
00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:08.559
used it in music, it was
considered to be dissolute, it was like

468
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:12.679
to tempt the devil and it was
satanic. Yeah, I mean, this

469
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:15.639
is all clear, it' s
fantastic, but I mean, there may

470
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:19.800
be better violins out there, even
that sound really good in a hundred years

471
00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:22.679
or two. But right now,
juange. We cannot know well, for

472
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:28.400
he was seeing and sold an extradivarius
at sixteen million dollars. Yes, yes,

473
00:36:29.159 --> 00:36:31.280
so that you fall back and that
is, the secret to the best

474
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:35.400
not in wood, but the varnish, which is what I thought to give

475
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:39.800
the touch to the wood of moisture, forgiveness, elasticity, such all this.

476
00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:44.800
Yes, yes, in the end
it may be that, but the

477
00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:46.400
wood, obviously, has a lot
to do with it as well. And

478
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:51.480
what a luthier friend of mine says, that good cello also says that there

479
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:55.719
is basically also a part of pure
myth, and this he counted on a

480
00:36:55.920 --> 00:37:00.519
case that happened to Joshuabel is one
of the or perhaps the most famous olinist

481
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:04.880
there is right now. He wanted
to buy a new violin. Well new,

482
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:07.480
I mean a violin is new,
because then it would be worse.

483
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:10.760
And then at the store of one
of the most famous Rutyros, which I

484
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:15.280
think is already closed, I was
in Paris. This lutier prepared him,

485
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:19.079
for ten or twelve violins in a
room so that he could prove them.

486
00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:24.000
And when, after several hours this
Joshuabel went out and asked him the good

487
00:37:24.400 --> 00:37:29.000
Luthier, because you liked some and
he said he does not get to convince

488
00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:31.159
me. No one said even the
number that was the six. Yeah,

489
00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:34.719
and he said no no why you' re saying that. And he says

490
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:37.960
no,' cause those regulars.
You just know. I am. Abel

491
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:42.679
failed to distinguish in a stradivarius.
Well, man, let' s just

492
00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:45.880
say it' s true that there' s a little myth here and I

493
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:47.400
' m not just emitting, but
artistic effectichism. Also not that you'

494
00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:50.920
re okay, but that heavy that
the guy can' t tell. An

495
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:54.039
extradiaries and professional screenwriter was the best
in the world. In fact, if

496
00:37:57.239 --> 00:38:00.480
people pay thousands of dollars to go
see him and the guy couldn' t

497
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:04.880
tell at a stadium of various.
What a complicated guy. It is also

498
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:07.960
true that the ten that this man
put on him were high- level violins.

499
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:12.280
Logically, he didn' t put
a violinchino of those hundred euros not

500
00:38:12.760 --> 00:38:15.920
aha well well anyway, well,
I would learn to play violin with one

501
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:20.920
of twenty five They didn' t
say any idea of music. Hey commented

502
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:25.280
that the famous legend that certain musicians
came to make a pact with the devil

503
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:30.880
and how we were with the violin
Paganini. Why Paganini is the most famous

504
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:35.559
in this regard in history. And
Paganini is said to have made a covenant

505
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:39.039
with Satan because for Nini he was
one of the first publicity geniuses. Juange

506
00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:45.239
was an annate and magnificent publicist.
Then those legends were encouraged by him.

507
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:51.880
He made those people tell that when
he played they looked like hands that were

508
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:54.360
in the shadow behind him, that
moved their fingers over the violin and all

509
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:58.800
this what he told you before used
the and the canon, the violin,

510
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:02.800
the Barnedi that sounded louder. He
encouraged the legends that what he was doing

511
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:08.800
was so prodigious that it was impossible
for a human being to get it then.

512
00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:14.079
All this was a pure and hard
propaganda maneuver, very similar to the

513
00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:19.039
one made the following century that doctor
remembers Boronov saying that he implanted you with

514
00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:22.760
testicles of monota hacias and you became
younger and this made invented the before and

515
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:24.960
after no no, but the funny
thing is this but for a moment that

516
00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:28.880
he did to Nator France the Nobel
Prize in Literature, of course they put

517
00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:35.039
testicle of monkey. Yeah, well, they were some. They' re

518
00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:38.400
called some. How they say satellites
around the character' s own, that

519
00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:43.119
is, they' re not taking
yours off and putting others on, but

520
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:46.239
they had four balls in your school
as they were placed around the pieces,

521
00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:50.119
as if they were satellites. Well, the thing is, he made up

522
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:53.239
the thing about the pictures from before
there being curved with a sad face and

523
00:39:53.440 --> 00:39:57.239
so on and then the other one
that went well made up or in a

524
00:39:57.239 --> 00:39:59.800
new coat. Or whatever, for
this Nini pays already did in that nineteen.

525
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:04.800
Then all these questions encouraged them.
He invented ongamen, made the legend

526
00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:10.920
run that he had killed one of
his lovers to hide his voice for diabolical

527
00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:15.440
arts. Of course, in one
of his violins, that violin had to

528
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:21.599
be pawned, and then he got
it back because the devil made the guy

529
00:40:21.639 --> 00:40:24.039
in the pawn shop stay so enthralled
by the music that he gave it back

530
00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:27.960
to him. That is, a
series of things that were born because yes

531
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:31.440
and those that were encouraged by him
remained a legend around the character and this,

532
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:35.239
for me, I play, has
one I think is the most interesting

533
00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:39.599
thing, a very valuable lesson is
that we are the humans, we tend

534
00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:43.400
to that very mitoman, that is, and for me, for bad,

535
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:46.400
When a character is no longer questioned
in a general way, he is getting

536
00:40:46.440 --> 00:40:51.559
more and more and more praised and
seems to be, in the end he

537
00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:53.599
pays ninis as the only violinist that
there was in the history that I already

538
00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:59.639
say today there are 100 Paganinis 200
three hundred, because the concept of being

539
00:40:59.639 --> 00:41:01.719
the best violinist. All these concepts
are because humans like to have references,

540
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:06.320
but they do not exist in reality. Not only that, but when he

541
00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:12.039
' s looking for an aura of
mystery that turns you back and you become

542
00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:15.719
a legend like my God, Paganini
made a pact with the devil and he

543
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:20.280
was so crazy that he came to
murder one of his lovers so that his

544
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:24.000
voice would be inside a violin through
a satanic ritual. And I know what

545
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:30.639
makes people morbid. Uncle in Marquez
is pure and hard marketing. Man,

546
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:34.239
I mean, they' re pretty
clear. He was a genius, not

547
00:41:34.320 --> 00:41:38.360
just the violin. Yeah, he
was a genius. Uncle is wrapping everything

548
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:45.599
in that magical aura, although for
marketing geniuses, Nazis, uncle I believe

549
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:49.920
that, of course, yes marketing
geniuses throughout history, to Nazis, which

550
00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:52.679
I always say the same as what
Adolf Hitler creates was the greatest sect of

551
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:57.920
the 20th century that we were born. He brained an entire nation thanks to

552
00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:02.760
marketing, advertising with a guy who
was Joseph Gebels at the head. Well,

553
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:08.599
it has to be said when I
studied audiovisual realization, the concept of

554
00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:14.039
modern documentary is created by Lenny rien
Fest, as it is the triumph of

555
00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:17.559
the will Tornas and such and all
history, the putting on the scene,

556
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:22.519
with the strum with the flag,
with the swastika. All I mean,

557
00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:30.599
it was that return to paganism and
the truth and the essence of the Aryan

558
00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:35.079
people. And in more, they
could not do it, but they were

559
00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:38.840
going to make a capital, which
was Germania, that was designed. But

560
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:43.719
she' s occupied with what that
story was like. There are two previous

561
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:46.760
things to say about Gervania. First
he was going to replace Berlin, because

562
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:50.400
Berlin was the Nazi city of us
all Germany, that is, in the

563
00:42:50.440 --> 00:42:54.880
elections Hilder always had the lowest percentage
of votes in Berlin and he bothered him.

564
00:42:55.519 --> 00:42:58.480
Of course, he didn' t
like anything. I' m taking

565
00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:01.199
over Berlin, I' m taking
over half Berlin. I leave a few

566
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:02.719
little things at Blandenburg' s door
and that' s it. But I

567
00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:07.199
took charge drank Berlin and made a
new city, a gigantic city that with

568
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:12.360
alberesper the architect who also later was
Minister of Armament, but that was above

569
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:16.559
all the architect of head we are
going to say to fill those megalomaniac ideas,

570
00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:21.599
absolute, gigantic, they wanted to
make an immense city that besides and

571
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:24.079
this really is not a way of
speaking, they said that they left beautiful

572
00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:29.159
ruins after a thousand years like the
Roman ones, that is, this was

573
00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:32.480
the level of thought that they had
and then they had the model of the

574
00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:36.360
whole city that, by the way, they reached the bunker of Berlin,

575
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:38.880
that there was not enough space there
and they had an entire room with the

576
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:40.960
model, that is, the delirium. It has to be recognized that it

577
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:44.880
was quite large, especially because,
moreover, when we say architects, we

578
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:47.679
will say more. I don'
t know what to call it, not

579
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:52.760
just important, but more philosophical.
The loss of the human proportion is something

580
00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:57.960
that eliminates from architecture its true reason
for being you. You can have a

581
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:00.519
very large work the pyramids of Egypt, you can have a very small work,

582
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:06.239
a building or a house, but
there has to be a human proportion

583
00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:09.280
related to the sense of that construction. And the Germania was only lawless because

584
00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:14.960
if it was not lawless, for
example, by a sense of Rome,

585
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:17.800
I whatever it is, that is, love of God makes you make a

586
00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:22.920
very large basilica, but I always
insist with a relative proportion, at least

587
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:27.719
or indirectly, related to the German
human. Germania was the gigantic by the

588
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:31.559
gigantic an example, the Great Palace
of the people that will have been seen

589
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:36.679
has in fact been seen in series
such as, for example, the guardian,

590
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:37.079
not the man of the castle.
What' s his name. The

591
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:43.719
series is in the form of Night
Castele, yes or High Castle. Well,

592
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:47.960
this one shows up and that gigantic
building that was for people to gather

593
00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:52.400
inside. When I was full of
people, I don' t know if

594
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:57.719
there were two hundred and fifty zero
people covered, two hundred and fifty myths,

595
00:44:57.840 --> 00:45:01.599
yes, yes, a madness could
come to rain by the condensation of

596
00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:04.719
the steam itself of those inside.
It could rain that was rain, that

597
00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:07.360
gives steam from the lungs. Well, it' s just that the flashlight,

598
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:10.599
the top of that dome, the
dome. Let' s imagine it

599
00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:14.639
as another dome. They had the
upper part, another cupulite than with a

600
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:17.960
flashlight to bring in some light,
because they were buildings, also without windows.

601
00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:22.039
Well, that dome was more or
less large like that of St Peter

602
00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:28.239
of Rome, and that was the
small part above. The arch of triumph

603
00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:31.760
they had prepared was forty- nine
times more volume than that of Paris Goddess,

604
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:37.719
that is to say the total madman
of madmen, especially because it would

605
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:40.760
not have worked, because today it
is known. At that time it was

606
00:45:40.840 --> 00:45:45.960
not known Berlin has a suuelo that
is not able to sustain that pressure.

607
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:52.079
Then either you make a foundation that
is impossible also because they are not technically

608
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:54.280
encompassing either by materials or by anything. Or if that city had not sunk

609
00:45:54.360 --> 00:46:00.280
by itself projected and imagined by Hilder
as t do all that in the background

610
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:02.400
imagined that, unfortunately, it was
set in motion, but in the end

611
00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:07.960
and less badly, it ended up
being destroyed. Yes, Germania was a

612
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:12.400
mess, and I' ve seen
a model, model photos and so on,

613
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:15.360
and that sounds like a cure to
me, and then I always thought

614
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:16.239
the same thing. Let' s
say we see this. They were always

615
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:21.440
on the subject of the Germanic spirit
and such, but like the ancient Germans,

616
00:46:21.639 --> 00:46:25.760
like the ancient Celtics, they made
some constructions of Chichi porra that were

617
00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:29.760
all made of wood and not very
large. In the background, Germania appeared

618
00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:32.480
the new Rome, yes, what
Rome itself intended. Athens, yes,

619
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:37.039
a city that had buildings I know, like the temple of Diana or the

620
00:46:38.360 --> 00:46:43.559
mausoleum such things in the pantheon was
what they intended. But that' s

621
00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:46.559
for the much bigger beast, because
I don' t know if this is

622
00:46:46.599 --> 00:46:52.880
something Germanic as such or as it
was then, but they liked it to

623
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:53.880
be immense, and I don'
t quite understand that obsession with giants either.

624
00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:58.840
Perhaps the previous century came an architecture, the futuristic architecture was called.

625
00:46:58.880 --> 00:47:00.719
I' m not sure. There' s a barquitecto who' s French,

626
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:04.719
said the Luis Boulet. They were
very inspired by him, who also

627
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:07.559
made designs. They were never put
into practice, but they were huge giants.

628
00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:12.480
For example, Newton' s cenotaph
is the most famous one he was,

629
00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:15.159
as you see images. If there
are no designs. If you'

630
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:19.800
re looking on the Internet for this
Newton note by Tian Luis Bullet, you

631
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:23.880
' ll see the size of that
which had a kind of gigantic sphere to

632
00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:29.400
get inside the style of this village
palace that we said before that they had

633
00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:32.199
some little holes inside that as it
looked like they were the stars when it

634
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:36.679
was day, because the people inside
had a vault so huge that it looked

635
00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:37.599
like the night sky, that well
it didn' t get done, but

636
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:39.119
they got a little inspired by these
ideas. I think it' s the

637
00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:43.480
issue of not pretending, but saying
I' m the one who' s

638
00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:45.480
made it bigger, because I'
m the one who has the most power.

639
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:47.000
I mean, it' s like, for example, the subject of

640
00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:50.519
scratching, the biggest thing in the
world today would swear that it' s

641
00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:52.119
the burcalif that' s on the
Arab lookout in Dubai. They' re

642
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:54.920
already doing it for over a mile
and crazy. So well, now,

643
00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:59.400
for example, there is a project
that is ridiculous, for example, as

644
00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:05.280
now Mosja Meding Salman, the king
of Saudi Arabia is crazy and is saying

645
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:08.039
that the gulf has to be the
new Europe. And I don' t

646
00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:10.519
know. If you heard the speech
he said a few months ago, I

647
00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:13.239
think he even bought formula one and
stuff like that. Yeah, yeah,

648
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:15.800
yeah, well, yeah, he' s taken you on golfers by paying

649
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:21.679
Cristiano Ronaldo a million with football.
Well, they' re gonna make a

650
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:25.000
city called The Line. Yes,
it is absurd the walls of Cristal,

651
00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:30.480
but very large, a city that
is a line with the walls of Cristal

652
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:34.519
in the middle of a stinking desert
in which I wanted to put three million

653
00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:38.000
people. Today or yesterday an article
came out that has now been chao back

654
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:42.400
and already wants that which comes into
three hundred fifty thousand that remains a bestiality

655
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:45.920
and that does it simply to say
no, Nowbia, Saudi has a place

656
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:50.079
in the world and we are able
to do this, even if what it

657
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:55.800
does is stupidity. And I like
this Germania, I mean, I'

658
00:48:55.800 --> 00:49:00.519
m going to prove my power.
I am the new Great Empire. Berlin

659
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:05.079
is going to be the new Rome. Well Berly no Germania is going to

660
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:10.360
be the new Rome with those buildings
that were complete and absolutely ridiculous. I

661
00:49:12.199 --> 00:49:15.960
think that ego that we humans have
is something that from time to time is

662
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:19.280
like a cyclical. And now I, for example, have seen the Line

663
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:22.119
project that has begun to build this
city, the one that was going to

664
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:27.440
live a million people, now they
say that three hundred thousand. Right now,

665
00:49:27.599 --> 00:49:30.719
while I was going over the interview, you' re looking at an

666
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:36.480
article they' re already saying maybe. It is not concrete, because it

667
00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:40.119
is stupid, that is, a
city that is a straight glazed line that

668
00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:44.880
in the beginning wanted it to be
up to one hundred and seventy kilometers in

669
00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:46.719
the middle of a stinking desert,
that is, the least functional thing in

670
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:50.679
the world. But it' s
going to prove that I have all the

671
00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:54.159
power of petrodollar and I' m
here to create as some kind of technology

672
00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:57.360
applied to a futuristic city, in
the city that I find horrible. No,

673
00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:01.159
I mean, they don' t
even have the air to breathe,

674
00:50:02.039 --> 00:50:05.119
not everything is put in there.
I think it' s a horrible thing.

675
00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:08.320
But in the end delusions of greatness, Benhamed Pin Salman, what a

676
00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:12.159
man. If there' s one
thing that seems to have merit, if

677
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:13.559
it' s true, I don' t know if you know this.

678
00:50:14.239 --> 00:50:19.800
He bought the east painting of da
vinci. The pantoktok is a certain controversy

679
00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:22.280
they say that they have it in
the bathroom the yacht to poop has a

680
00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:28.679
guy da vinci in the male milk. I mean, anyway, hello to

681
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:31.400
Mr Jamen Bill Sanman. By the
way, Alejandro Bernal and I are here

682
00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:37.519
at your disposal. We make you
much cheaper financials than delineated we leave you

683
00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:45.840
an advertising that will freak you out
and here we continue on mystery night.

684
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:52.960
And we were talking about that unknown
story, about that ignored story, about

685
00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:58.159
so many things that happened and caught
up in one of the most exciting issues

686
00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:01.840
of the 20th century, the riddles
surrounding Nazism. And we were talking about

687
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:07.760
that big fiater project that was the
new Rome, that Germania. And good

688
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:14.079
as this ego makes characters worldwide.
I also believe that today they do not

689
00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:19.239
try to copy Germania, but yes, somehow make mega projects that, when

690
00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:22.559
analyzed, says my God how they
spend so much money. In making a

691
00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:25.199
project that from the minute one can
see that it is absurd, but good.

692
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:30.039
I think that so much power and
so much money make humans go a

693
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:35.559
little bit out of their minds.
But, well, we were into the

694
00:51:35.679 --> 00:51:40.400
Nazi riddle and the interview with David
Zurdo continues like this. Yes, or

695
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:45.800
something perfectly useless is that sometimes that
problem, something that does not contribute or

696
00:51:45.199 --> 00:51:49.480
that does not, whether human beings
advance, because the case of Germany is

697
00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:53.199
this. When the Greeks or Romans
create their great monuments, they make a

698
00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:59.800
breakthrough in the style of architecture,
Germania engineering was not that. It was

699
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:02.400
just being what you say is showing
muscle and you say I have the biggest

700
00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:06.440
of everything, because I can,
already ready. I' m a Wande

701
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:08.079
hunger in the world and something bigger
than you, because I can and you

702
00:52:08.159 --> 00:52:12.519
' re not a loser already ready. And well and little we have evolved

703
00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:16.440
by seeing the projects you have right
now. Now there was Saudi In that

704
00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:22.679
regard and speaking of the advertising of
the Nazis, Adolf Hitler draws along with

705
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:27.400
Rudol Hess if I remember correctly.
It was a symbol, which is the

706
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:30.400
hebastic one, which is still scary, although it should not be scary,

707
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:31.840
because it is not a symbol that
had to be scary. But why they

708
00:52:31.880 --> 00:52:36.559
design the plastic and what it means
to have good is that in the end

709
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:38.920
the symbols are loaded. Let'
s say clearly they' re loaded with

710
00:52:39.000 --> 00:52:40.840
history, then it' s scary. That' s why, not because

711
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:45.519
the elastics are so many cultures.
In fact, because in the Hindu example

712
00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:49.119
itself there are swastikas with Buddhism,
not the swastikas is in many places.

713
00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:54.119
Well, this is a decorative motif
of the ancient Greeks. The swastika already

714
00:52:54.519 --> 00:52:58.679
exists, I say, there are
many places. Man comes from Sanskrit in

715
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:01.000
this case, but he may have
chosen any other name of the beloved flea

716
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:08.400
in Hilder' s time. Interestingly, this symbol was very fashionable. You

717
00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:14.480
had used Juange before Gildrablo. Kipling
had used it on the covers of his

718
00:53:14.559 --> 00:53:17.320
books. He put it as a
symbol. It was the Anglo- Indian

719
00:53:17.320 --> 00:53:22.239
plan. There was no decoration of
the United States postal service, which had

720
00:53:22.280 --> 00:53:27.960
a swastika, a decoration for postmen
that merged very well. In other words,

721
00:53:28.039 --> 00:53:34.159
it has been used in many areas
until there was one is that it

722
00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:36.800
was then used as well. But
let' s say with Hilder when the

723
00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:40.920
Olympics And so, but there were
advertising campaigns in the United States, some

724
00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:45.920
companies, not to say names,
but some important ones, that used the

725
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:46.960
elastics as if emblem, because it
was very attractive. And it is true

726
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:52.960
that it is very powerful Hitler that
in Germany the swastika already began to appear

727
00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:58.119
in all the esotericism this of the
society of Bril tule all these things of

728
00:53:58.199 --> 00:54:01.280
Malander, Labashk and all orientalism,
the one that is fashionable, because he

729
00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:07.800
chose the symbol because it seemed to
him that hypnotic. The white background to

730
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:10.119
highlight it from the flag because he
designed it in person. Indeed, he

731
00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:14.639
had architectural studies, good painting.
He tried to be a painter a couple

732
00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:17.079
of times and they rejected him that
they might have taken him because so bad

733
00:54:17.079 --> 00:54:21.920
a painter. Not what it was
like compared to the horror that one rode

734
00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:24.119
later. But well and then,
the red background of the flag was to

735
00:54:24.199 --> 00:54:30.639
disturb the communists and to confuse,
because he intended to be that touch of

736
00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:35.960
National Socialist Socialism Party, which was
not well known where they were going.

737
00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:42.480
And then create that flag that we
can imagine today as the symbol. It

738
00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:44.679
is that it is the symbol of
more than one thing, because one can

739
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:47.000
say of terror, well, terror, of terror of evil also in part,

740
00:54:47.599 --> 00:54:53.039
but of political evil, of corruption, of the human being to the

741
00:54:53.639 --> 00:54:57.760
extreme that got a people that was
at that time is that we just forget

742
00:54:57.760 --> 00:55:01.760
it. Germany was possibly the most
educated country in the world. And that

743
00:55:01.800 --> 00:55:05.960
country, which was like this in
the thirty- third year, when power

744
00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:12.119
comes, becomes the country that commits
the supreme horror of human history. If

745
00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:15.079
we look at the proportion of what
that country looked like, because of course

746
00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:17.920
we can' t talk about me, that I know the Hittites that maybe

747
00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:22.360
killed a lot of people, but
they did it with a code that is

748
00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:24.239
very far from ours, but that
of the Germans of thirty- three and

749
00:55:24.280 --> 00:55:27.960
then, already, of course,
thirty- nine forty- five was not

750
00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:34.159
so. Then that symbol that has
become something, because that hypnotic. Hilder

751
00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:37.679
realized it was like that. This
also makes us see that it was not

752
00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:42.119
a coincidence, that everything was plotted
with a lot of intelligence. What happens

753
00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:45.599
is that intelligence does not have to, as we see it going together neither

754
00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:47.440
to humanity, nor to goodness,
nor to piety, nor to anything like

755
00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:52.000
that nothing. If the Nazis,
for example, on an economic level,

756
00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:59.480
were milk, an economic revolution was
made in Germany, tremendously brutal industrial.

757
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:05.480
The problem is the new dark nuance
that they had of if you don'

758
00:56:05.519 --> 00:56:07.280
t think the same as I kill
you and besides, I' m superior

759
00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:10.039
to you for what I would be. Ademan is the problem at the root

760
00:56:10.119 --> 00:56:14.760
of the racel. Then the power
you have said of propaganda, because Germany

761
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:17.079
and this is very curious, because
I, who am a great fan of

762
00:56:17.159 --> 00:56:21.159
the history of World War II,
both politics and war, but above all

763
00:56:21.199 --> 00:56:24.039
politics, that of the history of
the Nazi Party of Hilder and its minions.

764
00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:30.360
And so I didn' t know
this that I discovered we' re

765
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:34.320
going to say watching a documentary series
recently and I understood something that had always

766
00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:36.639
caught my attention. It' s
very curious. It is when the Nazis,

767
00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:40.519
in the mid- thirties, decide
that the German people cannot enter,

768
00:56:40.840 --> 00:56:45.760
they cannot buy in Jewish shops,
that it had been something like because direct,

769
00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:49.360
that is, it is already to
say not among that Jewish commentary was

770
00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:52.760
the Jews are very bad and that
is it. But that was not the

771
00:56:52.840 --> 00:56:55.119
case when they made the first move
so that people would not buy in the

772
00:56:55.119 --> 00:56:58.320
Jewish community. Most Germans. He
paid no heed, for he said,

773
00:56:58.519 --> 00:57:00.960
but not if I have always bought
that or the books. For whatever it

774
00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:07.039
is, then Gebels had to organize
a two- year campaign with lies about

775
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:10.280
performances and crimes of all kinds that
the Jews had been doing, so that

776
00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:16.239
the people would end up believing that
the Jews were really worse than they were

777
00:57:16.239 --> 00:57:19.880
and that they were the bad guys
in the film. But it took two

778
00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:22.880
years, that is, it was
not something repentant, because sometimes it seems

779
00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:23.840
that the people, moreover, had
gone mad overnight, because it is not

780
00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:29.000
the power of propaganda made by people
who know how to do it and who,

781
00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:32.400
moreover, have no scruples. Well, besides, Joseph Gebell is a

782
00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:37.440
genius. You know one of the
things that scares me the most when I

783
00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:44.280
read I read the Gebels propaganda law
and so it' s been a few

784
00:57:44.320 --> 00:57:45.840
years since you had, for example, in principle, that it' s

785
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:52.320
called the furera, which is called
transposition, transposition that when a political enemy

786
00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:59.280
of yours tells an incontestable truth,
that is, it turns out that this

787
00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:05.440
lord of this robot political party and
it' s incontestable because there are the

788
00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:07.440
bills all about how theft transpositions don' t talk about what you know you

789
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:09.480
' re going to lose. Insult
him and attack him, no, because

790
00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:15.599
you were stealing because you and completely
deflect the conversation, do not get involved

791
00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:17.480
in a conversation that you have lost. To this day, I see Spanish

792
00:58:17.599 --> 00:58:22.360
politicians are the same as all more
Nazis than Hitler had. Uncle, no,

793
00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:23.039
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

794
00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:23.039
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

795
00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:23.039
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

796
00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:23.039
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

797
00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:23.039
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

798
00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:23.039
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

799
00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:23.039
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

800
00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:23.039
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

801
00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:23.039
no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

802
00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:23.039
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

803
00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:23.400
no, no, no, no, no, no. Then you

804
00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:28.480
get caught with another luck. You
get caught in a fucking corruption case.

805
00:58:29.079 --> 00:58:31.480
And it' s not you who
steal more than me, but yours doesn

806
00:58:31.960 --> 00:58:35.840
' t talk, yeah, not
you. Besides, it' s an

807
00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:38.039
unnoble thing to say. In general. A lot is also done about the

808
00:58:38.119 --> 00:58:42.440
history of different peoples that if some
have been more evil than others and so

809
00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:45.639
on. When you say look,
let' s talk about what has been

810
00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:49.119
the history of humanity and the others
are considerations apart. But what you'

811
00:58:49.159 --> 00:58:51.079
re saying is true, it'
s still used today because it works.

812
00:58:51.400 --> 00:58:54.400
Unfortunately, because it works. There
is no way for us to see the

813
00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:58.280
kind of political leaders in Spain and
here in Colombia, in you everywhere.

814
00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:02.239
Yeah, I mean, it'
s a horrible thing, well, but

815
00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:08.199
these gentlemen developed such fabulous technology.
In the third rule and for example,

816
00:59:08.239 --> 00:59:13.159
recently I was in the United States, I was freaked out by a plane,

817
00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:17.480
the Messermich, which is the first
jet in history and relationship. Yes,

818
00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:21.360
yes, indeed, I saw a
messer then they improved it. There

819
00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:25.000
was a second version of the Messermitch
several, the horte on the ballator.

820
00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:29.159
That was a reaction, too.
Yeah, and then they showed me a

821
00:59:29.239 --> 00:59:30.000
plane, man, I don'
t remember the name I went crazy on.

822
00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:34.960
I was wearing a very rare antenna
and they told me it was the

823
00:59:35.079 --> 00:59:38.079
first plane I could fly at night
and maneuver perfectly at night. Yeah,

824
00:59:38.159 --> 00:59:40.280
I know you' re saying,
I don' t know exactly what it

825
00:59:40.320 --> 00:59:43.519
can be, but they did have
one that was rocket propulsion. Yes,

826
00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:46.199
others that were of reaction the month
demit was of reaction, the wine of

827
00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:51.199
propulsion, a rocket, and then
it was the flying wings, the hortens

828
00:59:51.320 --> 00:59:55.000
or the gout, the geo that
were also carried engines of reaction, as

829
00:59:55.159 --> 00:59:59.880
engines that are then used very soon
after the war. Already the planes that

830
01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:04.880
we all know, the know this
love, for example American or Russian,

831
01:00:05.239 --> 01:00:07.039
when they start with the mich that
already carry that kind of engines, that

832
01:00:07.239 --> 01:00:10.719
is, the Germans in the forty- four are already using these planes.

833
01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:14.199
What happens that month to Smith,
which, if I' m not mistaken,

834
01:00:14.360 --> 01:00:15.679
was the m two hundred and sixty- two. I think it'

835
01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:19.880
s what it' s called.
Couldn' t work well, not by

836
01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:22.159
the plane. You know why it
was because they didn' t have pilots.

837
01:00:22.679 --> 01:00:27.079
If they didn' t have pilots
and they didn' t have manufacturing

838
01:00:27.079 --> 01:00:29.320
capacity, he' d tell me. But even though the last ones who

839
01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:31.519
arrived in the forty- four still
could something, they were not efficient.

840
01:00:32.320 --> 01:00:36.880
That' s why I couldn'
t get it. Imagine if the war

841
01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:40.000
had begun in thirty- nine,
but forty- six, having this one

842
01:00:40.199 --> 01:00:45.199
rise one and sub two, the
first missiles of history, and having and

843
01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:50.280
having planes that when one was at
that time went the maximum. I think

844
01:00:50.280 --> 01:00:55.119
four hundred an hour or they'
re going to seven hundred, seven hundred

845
01:00:55.119 --> 01:01:00.400
and high per hour. If I
had been a guy, they had fuel

846
01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:02.639
consumption problems too, because there was
always the power. You know no,

847
01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:06.239
but it' s true. The
v two the rocket, the first rocket

848
01:01:06.280 --> 01:01:08.280
in the study, is the first
human object to come out of the atmosphere.

849
01:01:08.840 --> 01:01:12.159
Yeah, and he comes back in? Sure, he could stay out,

850
01:01:12.199 --> 01:01:14.280
but he was coming back in.
And that' s who he is.

851
01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:17.039
He is then the precursor of the
United States Saturn V rocket. This

852
01:01:17.079 --> 01:01:21.119
is Fome Brown, who creates the
flying bomb thing, the b one and

853
01:01:21.239 --> 01:01:24.800
the rocketo two, that is,
German technology, German science. Actually,

854
01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:29.880
that' s why I used to
say that the Germans were a country,

855
01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:31.000
the world' s paimatilisate. They
didn' t have half the great musicians,

856
01:01:31.719 --> 01:01:37.480
writers, scientists. All that was
German for a century and a half

857
01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:39.719
are more important. Einstein, let' s forget. He was Jewish,

858
01:01:39.920 --> 01:01:43.840
but German Jew, yes, clear
and formed in Germany. I mean,

859
01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:45.199
it' s good. And there' s one thing that' s very

860
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:49.880
curious. How the creators of the
atomic bomb were all Jews. Dude,

861
01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:53.719
the one who devised it was a
Hungarian. The Jews two were urey was

862
01:01:53.960 --> 01:01:59.000
OFHB, of course, he was
in the garlic. Then there was also

863
01:01:59.079 --> 01:02:02.239
Edward Teller who was near and who
will be of Italian origin, but there

864
01:02:04.280 --> 01:02:07.719
were many that were scientists expelled from
the area of influence, not only Germans,

865
01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:10.840
but because urai if I am not
wrong the Hungarian, but yes,

866
01:02:12.119 --> 01:02:15.639
and then all that were expelled because
the Nazis thought that, besides that it

867
01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:17.599
was science, we are going to
say as corrupt, or that relativity,

868
01:02:17.960 --> 01:02:20.000
that it was a kind of Jewish
lie. And such a good thing,

869
01:02:21.480 --> 01:02:23.440
because that caused in part that they
lost the war. So, well,

870
01:02:23.519 --> 01:02:27.199
where they give them, they take
them that they usually say no, no,

871
01:02:27.559 --> 01:02:30.159
yes, the truth, that'
s a pretty poetic justice story.

872
01:02:30.280 --> 01:02:32.639
A little yes, but then what
does seem very strong to me and this

873
01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:37.519
is mentioned in your book is that
there are a series of ten scientists like

874
01:02:37.599 --> 01:02:42.159
Erne Pom brownque it is not clear
up here, next to the man it

875
01:02:42.360 --> 01:02:47.360
was ethical, not because Nepon Brown
belonged to the SS To the personal guard

876
01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:50.880
of the fine and saw how thousands
of people died. In the case he

877
01:02:51.000 --> 01:02:53.679
actually used the constancy capo where mittelber
did to make the b two up and

878
01:02:53.880 --> 01:03:00.840
the Americans arrive and do the paper
clip operation and here for skins to the

879
01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:05.960
sea and take more than a thousand
scientists. I think it was yes,

880
01:03:06.199 --> 01:03:09.039
yes, the most famous. Perhaps
it is precisely Gornal Fomen Brown, but

881
01:03:09.079 --> 01:03:14.119
there is also the second, so
to speak, Heisenberg, which is the

882
01:03:14.159 --> 01:03:17.159
principle of determination of Heisenberg, which
is the one that makes us not know

883
01:03:17.159 --> 01:03:20.920
whether there is really in the world
of microscopic, quantum or no chance.

884
01:03:21.639 --> 01:03:25.320
This is from the time of Heisenberg. We owe it to him that great

885
01:03:25.639 --> 01:03:30.960
debate that we may never skip the
real solution, because we cannot, in

886
01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:32.800
principle, know. But the fact
is that of the German scientists, who

887
01:03:32.840 --> 01:03:37.440
were designers, engineers, scientists,
pure and hard of all kinds of chemicals,

888
01:03:38.119 --> 01:03:42.320
all this was a career, not
from the United States anymore, so

889
01:03:42.400 --> 01:03:45.320
we know the American operation more.
It was a race among the English for

890
01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:50.039
a SITH, on the one hand, the Americans, which then the English

891
01:03:50.039 --> 01:03:52.800
withdrew a little bit, but the
English also and especially the Soviets, threw

892
01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:59.039
themselves over Germany to capture all possible
scientists or people related to the world of

893
01:03:59.039 --> 01:04:01.440
science, technology and each took those
who could and took them to their country.

894
01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:06.320
In fact, so much is the
space race. It is said that

895
01:04:06.599 --> 01:04:12.000
he was almost German, because in
the United States a joke came out in

896
01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:15.960
a newspaper. In one of these
let' s say several vignettes that looked

897
01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:19.199
like two satellites were going to cross
into space. Then the one would put

898
01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:26.519
Russian USA and the other would put
f FCP good s SSR, which would

899
01:04:26.639 --> 01:04:28.559
be URS the URS. Even the
two went across and as they crossed,

900
01:04:29.039 --> 01:04:31.199
the two ou fiders said in mind
Floynd that it is called God Adrigo in

901
01:04:31.280 --> 01:04:35.320
German, that is, each in
one place, but they spoke in German

902
01:04:35.800 --> 01:04:39.559
or not, for that was true, that is, and of course what

903
01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:43.280
happens, that this is the most
questionable part, is the ethical part.

904
01:04:44.119 --> 01:04:45.599
Sure, you say people he'
s done. Some of them were not

905
01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:49.599
completely clean scientists. Heisenberg himself,
though in the Nazi atomic bomb development program,

906
01:04:49.679 --> 01:04:54.960
was neither a Nazi nor anything like
that. But WN bombard, yes,

907
01:04:55.159 --> 01:04:58.320
yes, it was. He showed
up with Walt Disney, doing even

908
01:04:58.400 --> 01:05:00.559
space career promotion. You know state. Two are things that lead us to

909
01:05:00.639 --> 01:05:03.800
think if, in the end,
the reason for state historical convenience, because

910
01:05:03.880 --> 01:05:08.280
if you do and you don'
t, you stay behind. But it

911
01:05:08.280 --> 01:05:10.800
' s very sad. I also
tell you that it is very sad that

912
01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:13.639
the same moment that there are wars, and how we are going to scandalize

913
01:05:13.639 --> 01:05:16.760
all of this. Another is a
little more of that barbarity and human madness.

914
01:05:18.199 --> 01:05:20.199
Is it too complex? Is it
too complex? Look from the same

915
01:05:20.239 --> 01:05:24.320
Newremberg trials, that the other day
I interviewed a lawyer about this thing that

916
01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:27.559
he' s pulled out a trial
book and such for the Caracol program.

917
01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:30.800
He said no. But how you
judged all the Nazis and in the party

918
01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:32.760
you didn' t make there were
twelve million people. It' s impossible,

919
01:05:33.039 --> 01:05:36.000
it can' t, I mean, you have to judge the ringleaders

920
01:05:36.079 --> 01:05:39.920
and so the people that I'
ve moved all this and so here the

921
01:05:39.960 --> 01:05:41.760
issue is ethical, that is,
and what they' re going to tell

922
01:05:41.760 --> 01:05:43.199
you is all the same. The
other day I was with a man who

923
01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:46.079
works for the company, he told
me we didn' t have to,

924
01:05:46.239 --> 01:05:48.119
because if the Russians weren' t
going to take him. It is what

925
01:05:48.599 --> 01:05:51.360
has no ethical issue, without any
ethical issue. No, no, no,

926
01:05:51.480 --> 01:05:56.360
before the Russians take it I already
Chao okay yeah, sure, it

927
01:05:56.519 --> 01:05:59.760
' s already sad, but I
don' t know uncle to be a

928
01:05:59.760 --> 01:06:01.840
Huen Ju. Pacifism also passes.
You do not have the pacifist. When

929
01:06:01.960 --> 01:06:04.159
Hitler came to power and knew what
he was doing, he stopped being pacifist,

930
01:06:04.639 --> 01:06:08.599
not because he was no longer in
spirit, but because the problem you

931
01:06:08.679 --> 01:06:13.320
have if we use different decks to
play or you use marked cards, because

932
01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:17.280
you can' t face it.
And, of course, imagine if on

933
01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:19.480
one point you hear that this looks
like I' m going to defend the

934
01:06:19.480 --> 01:06:21.119
lack of ethics. It' s
not like that much less. But if,

935
01:06:21.159 --> 01:06:26.599
for a more ethical, more humane
question, the Allies had not made

936
01:06:26.639 --> 01:06:29.880
war against the Nazis, how it
was done, then perhaps, right now

937
01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:33.239
we call ourselves all Nazis. You
know then and speaking also, it'

938
01:06:33.639 --> 01:06:36.559
s yes clear good. That'
s the thing, that' s not

939
01:06:36.599 --> 01:06:39.679
what you say. It' s
very complex. It' s very complex

940
01:06:39.760 --> 01:06:45.119
and put your opinions down here on
the YouTube channel. Yes, everyone has

941
01:06:45.239 --> 01:06:46.599
their opinion, because it' s
a subject. I think it' s

942
01:06:46.599 --> 01:06:51.960
very complex. Well, all these
ethical components that we' ve said made

943
01:06:54.239 --> 01:06:58.000
good the Nazi extertors, that is, the Peper Clip operation, m of

944
01:06:58.119 --> 01:07:03.639
more than a thousand scientists brought to
the United States and erased their past.

945
01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:11.360
The Soviets on whom they could.
But it must be remembered that if we

946
01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:15.280
came to the moon, it was
thanks to Nazi science, to Mr Ernet

947
01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:19.679
po Brown, to all the scientists
who were with him, to the creator

948
01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:25.880
of space medicine, Goubertus Strudel,
who a few years ago removed all the

949
01:07:25.920 --> 01:07:30.719
prizes he had and all that was
around him, since it was shown that

950
01:07:30.760 --> 01:07:35.119
he was, for example, involved
in experiments he did with children. So,

951
01:07:35.800 --> 01:07:40.360
well, that' s the reality
and I' ll take that conclusion

952
01:07:40.440 --> 01:07:45.039
from David Zurdo. Not the war
between humans is something so crazy that what

953
01:07:45.119 --> 01:07:53.079
comes out later is still completely absurd
and ethical, kinetic none. But well

954
01:07:53.519 --> 01:07:59.000
that doesn' t like it or
not in our history nature and that'

955
01:07:59.039 --> 01:08:00.760
s what today' s show is
about to hear about it. They invented

956
01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:05.599
a concept called the Wonder WAFE.
Yes, they were like fantastic weapons,

957
01:08:06.320 --> 01:08:11.400
that in those fantastic weapons were the
uv one and w of the quates of

958
01:08:11.440 --> 01:08:15.599
history. In that Wonder Waffer we' re talking about a very real thing.

959
01:08:15.079 --> 01:08:19.760
The Messermichs were the first. There
was a reaction from the story that

960
01:08:19.760 --> 01:08:26.079
what David Zurdo said honest eye that
if there had been a plane in Messermich

961
01:08:26.159 --> 01:08:29.079
a year or two before, because
it means that all those prototypes, many

962
01:08:29.119 --> 01:08:34.079
of these prototypes, were in Penemunde
and when they find out about Pnemunde,

963
01:08:34.840 --> 01:08:38.800
their secret base and bombard it and
everything is delayed. And so. But

964
01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:44.840
imagine if they hadn' t bombed
Openemunde, the B two and the Messer

965
01:08:45.039 --> 01:08:47.359
Mich aircraft developed before, that the
problem when Messermins develop is that there are

966
01:08:47.359 --> 01:08:53.800
no pilots anymore Beware that the world
was talking German today, but this Wander

967
01:08:53.920 --> 01:09:01.159
Wafe has up to a version two
to zero, which is a thing called

968
01:09:01.319 --> 01:09:09.479
die glock. What milk is this
one of the day. Before answering your

969
01:09:09.560 --> 01:09:13.319
question, Juan Ge, I want
to contextualize something about the second bafe,

970
01:09:14.399 --> 01:09:17.520
because we have to bear in mind
that, although they represented in a way,

971
01:09:17.880 --> 01:09:21.760
the great advance that they had logical, technological, scientific and engineering,

972
01:09:23.199 --> 01:09:27.640
which had a good number of the
components of the socialist national. The GUNDFAFE

973
01:09:27.840 --> 01:09:34.000
were a concept that was encouraged by
the Nazi Propaganda Ministry. Then there was,

974
01:09:34.520 --> 01:09:40.680
of course, a great why not
say it, promotion goal, to

975
01:09:41.119 --> 01:09:45.600
show what is new the newspaper world
was the brightest, the most powerful and

976
01:09:45.720 --> 01:09:49.119
the most technological and that had weapons
that no one else could have and that

977
01:09:49.239 --> 01:09:54.399
no one else could develop. Well, this was the slurs of juange,

978
01:09:54.800 --> 01:09:59.199
valley trouble down here, but good
nothing. Yeah, yeah, they invented

979
01:09:59.279 --> 01:10:03.239
the mesmerisms. This is worth getting
her up at her age. I remember

980
01:10:03.279 --> 01:10:09.840
when the war between Russia and Ukraine
began. Yeah, the invisible Russian planes

981
01:10:10.079 --> 01:10:15.039
the aita missiles are, where are
they? Where are the Russian hypersonic missiles,

982
01:10:15.239 --> 01:10:17.720
where are they? When he went
out through Mirputing and said when the

983
01:10:17.800 --> 01:10:20.439
tankers came in, ninety, the
war was over, where the east ninety

984
01:10:20.439 --> 01:10:27.840
are. In other words, Russia
has been lying for many years about the

985
01:10:27.920 --> 01:10:30.600
military technology that has been demonstrated,
unfortunately, in a conflict in which thousands

986
01:10:30.600 --> 01:10:34.520
of people have died and continue to
die that is not good for shit.

987
01:10:35.640 --> 01:10:42.680
In this case, with more technology
than the Russian proportion, let us not

988
01:10:42.760 --> 01:10:46.000
be fooled. Yes, of course, because the Germans did seasonally yes,

989
01:10:46.119 --> 01:10:53.600
yes, yes, conventional war.
Eye with this then was a propagandistic element,

990
01:10:53.800 --> 01:10:57.600
but with a real fucking base exactly
Jorge and in that PFE board concept,

991
01:10:57.800 --> 01:11:02.399
weapons of war were created like the
Ubots who were Juan that a series

992
01:11:02.439 --> 01:11:08.920
of submarines that had the ability to
launch ballistic missiles in the early 1940s.

993
01:11:11.239 --> 01:11:16.479
Be the loin. If you imagine
having conceived that an absolute madness. As

994
01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:21.520
you also define submarines as a project
that was known as the electrophoto was electrobot,

995
01:11:23.119 --> 01:11:28.039
it was a submarine that operated with
electricity and could make deep dives.

996
01:11:29.520 --> 01:11:31.920
But for me, I entered these
Dabafe bonds, one of the craziest and

997
01:11:32.039 --> 01:11:36.199
where they would have done so,
I would have already been chapo by the

998
01:11:36.199 --> 01:11:42.279
national socialist lords. The type 11
submarine was a submarine that was going to

999
01:11:42.760 --> 01:11:47.520
have a folding seaplane and that was
going to have the ability to get out

1000
01:11:47.640 --> 01:11:50.479
of the water and fly. Not
at high altitude. But if a series

1001
01:11:50.520 --> 01:11:59.640
of flights will be a kind of
Juange device that exactly submarine carriers, an

1002
01:12:00.079 --> 01:12:06.399
instrument that the Japanese actually came to
manufacture could carry exactly three seaplanes and in

1003
01:12:06.479 --> 01:12:12.520
addition those seaplanes wanted to carry bombs
from Peste bubonin only part of delivering the

1004
01:12:12.520 --> 01:12:15.000
United States. When the surrender was
signed in Tokyo, they delivered what was

1005
01:12:15.079 --> 01:12:17.479
there, I think there were three, already six. So they gave themselves

1006
01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:23.600
to the effective gringos, exactly Juan
Que, and probably the most todontic,

1007
01:12:23.840 --> 01:12:27.239
apart from the fact that I am
going to speak to them about it,

1008
01:12:27.880 --> 01:12:30.640
was the submarine class H Juan Que, a patent that arose in a thousand

1009
01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:33.520
nine hundred thirty- nine to make
us the idea of what this submarine was.

1010
01:12:33.880 --> 01:12:36.960
Well, it' s more than
your sailor in a class h carrier

1011
01:12:38.039 --> 01:12:43.279
was going to have the ability to
mobilize more than one hundred and forty zero

1012
01:12:43.279 --> 01:12:47.399
tons. In nineteen hundred and thirty- nine they wanted, apart from that,

1013
01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:53.000
to incorporate eight twenty- inch guns. They wanted this plane carrier to

1014
01:12:53.199 --> 01:12:58.479
be the ultimate weapon, class H
N N U, within this second baffet

1015
01:12:58.479 --> 01:13:00.079
of the Nazis, Juange. It' s not that if they hadn'

1016
01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:02.359
t done stupidity it' s in
Chile' s least marked war, he

1017
01:13:02.359 --> 01:13:04.319
wasn' t a good military man. If I had, we still speak

1018
01:13:05.359 --> 01:13:12.960
German on Romel' s case.
They wouldn' t have, they'

1019
01:13:13.039 --> 01:13:15.359
d have razed in World War II. But good, but thank God,

1020
01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:19.000
at the end of the darkness there
is always a light and we are going

1021
01:13:19.159 --> 01:13:26.119
to talk about one of the most
fantastic, that would be ten what and

1022
01:13:26.159 --> 01:13:30.560
here we continue in mystery night and
we were talking about the wonder WAFE,

1023
01:13:32.159 --> 01:13:39.479
the impossible weapons, between quotation marks
that were developed in the Second World War

1024
01:13:39.640 --> 01:13:43.520
by Germany Lazi, the Messermitch,
for example, the first jets in history,

1025
01:13:43.960 --> 01:13:47.000
it raises one and it raises two, the first rockets of the underwater

1026
01:13:47.079 --> 01:13:53.760
history that are thought impossible carriers that
would have made the course of the war

1027
01:13:53.840 --> 01:13:59.520
change. And there' s one
who' s talking about this Wonder Offe

1028
01:13:59.600 --> 01:14:05.640
in quotes, between the compilation,
the curiosity, the disturbing reality. And

1029
01:14:05.680 --> 01:14:09.840
there is very important do, but
the most important, with much difference from

1030
01:14:10.239 --> 01:14:15.000
the diglog that was this of the
di block juange, better known as the

1031
01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:21.159
bell, a device that would have
had the ability to challenge gravity with anti

1032
01:14:23.600 --> 01:14:28.039
- gravitational properties and even travel in
time. This looks like the script of

1033
01:14:28.159 --> 01:14:31.399
a science fiction movie, but it' s amazing. And to talk about

1034
01:14:31.479 --> 01:14:35.079
Ten what juange we need to talk
about and Gold Whitzowski. It turns out

1035
01:14:35.159 --> 01:14:42.239
that this is a Polish researcher who
made this story of Diez Lock very popular

1036
01:14:42.319 --> 01:14:45.199
in the early 2000s, twenty-
four years ago. And this was based

1037
01:14:45.760 --> 01:14:54.640
on information that this man received from
a Polish secret service agent who was talking

1038
01:14:54.920 --> 01:15:01.239
to Whittowsky and told him that he
had in his possession a documentation, which

1039
01:15:01.800 --> 01:15:06.640
had the statements of the interrogation of
a CSS officer named Jacob Sporrenberg SG.

1040
01:15:11.119 --> 01:15:15.319
And it turns out that when I
saw Towsky he received this information that he

1041
01:15:15.399 --> 01:15:20.680
gave to this Polish secret agent of
this Jacob Sporting Bergh. The details that

1042
01:15:20.880 --> 01:15:27.119
this BAFFENEFSS officer commented on were mind- blowing. According to Sporrenberg, in

1043
01:15:27.720 --> 01:15:32.520
a thousand nine hundred and forty-
three, Juane Adolph Hitla appointed Hams Camla

1044
01:15:32.880 --> 01:15:40.399
Camla was an engineer who had made
part of the development of the uvdos missiles

1045
01:15:40.520 --> 01:15:44.560
next to Ferner Bon brown Era.
We could say that one of the best

1046
01:15:44.720 --> 01:15:48.760
Nazi engineers there was at the time, and Hitler asked him, demanded that

1047
01:15:48.920 --> 01:15:56.520
he develop a weapon that had anti- gravitatory capabilities to be able, thus

1048
01:15:56.800 --> 01:16:01.800
having a war advantage over the allies. According to this interrogation, Hams Camla

1049
01:16:01.920 --> 01:16:09.399
was working on a secret base Juange, which was called jer Raiza, which

1050
01:16:09.880 --> 01:16:14.960
was located in the Sudetens, on
the border between Germany and the Czech Republic

1051
01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:18.000
and that base is super real and
today you can still visit exactly those kilometers,

1052
01:16:18.880 --> 01:16:23.520
tunnel Cyclometers, that is, there
is no doubt, exactly Juang and

1053
01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:28.800
beginnings of that year basically began to
do the work to develop this bell.

1054
01:16:30.359 --> 01:16:34.199
It is die and block that was
basically a structure that, as its name

1055
01:16:34.279 --> 01:16:41.079
says, in the form of a
bell that would be between two seven meters

1056
01:16:41.359 --> 01:16:47.000
high and a width of three seven, that would have properties of hard metal

1057
01:16:47.279 --> 01:16:54.079
and heavy and reitero, as Sporrenberg
would have said in this interrogation, had

1058
01:16:54.079 --> 01:16:59.720
anti- gravitation properties. The unusualness
of this story and why not say something

1059
01:17:00.239 --> 01:17:03.159
of the most mysterious Juange is that, according to Sporrenberg, when Camla brought

1060
01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:10.119
this group of Nazi scientists together to
perform the relevant tests to verify the functioning

1061
01:17:10.239 --> 01:17:15.159
of this artifact. Of the seven
Nazi scientists who were working directly, five

1062
01:17:15.239 --> 01:17:20.800
of them died in strange circumstances.
It is not known whether it was in

1063
01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:29.079
this case related to having been testing, being experimented with this artifact or whether

1064
01:17:29.359 --> 01:17:32.079
they simply disappeared in some fortuitous way. The truth is, these five men

1065
01:17:32.439 --> 01:17:39.000
died. And this is where this
story is tied to the PPER operation that

1066
01:17:39.279 --> 01:17:43.880
to contextualize our perpey- copier listeners
the Second World War is over and the

1067
01:17:43.960 --> 01:17:48.520
Americans make a pact with the Nazis
to take some of the brightest scientists and

1068
01:17:48.600 --> 01:17:55.479
minds to work on the American side. Of course more than a thousand took

1069
01:17:55.560 --> 01:17:59.359
two others exactly among them one of
the most designated Ferner bon Brown, the

1070
01:17:59.720 --> 01:18:03.520
eighteenth of the bony rockets, who
ended up working for the right NASA and

1071
01:18:03.560 --> 01:18:08.880
being a hero in the United States, exactly and basically the man who is

1072
01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:12.960
responsible for the Americans coming to the
moon in this case. So important this

1073
01:18:13.039 --> 01:18:17.680
story turns out that, according to
Porrenberg Juange, when the Nazis literally saw

1074
01:18:17.920 --> 01:18:26.079
the war lost, Kamla decides to
meet with the Americans and decides to negotiate

1075
01:18:26.199 --> 01:18:32.800
my freedom for technology and knowledge of
how to develop the bell. That is

1076
01:18:33.079 --> 01:18:38.760
one of the hypotheses that has emerged
in this regard. Another states that the

1077
01:18:38.960 --> 01:18:44.479
Nazis would have taken this device on
a submarine and brought it here to South

1078
01:18:44.600 --> 01:18:48.640
America, along with other important hierarchs
such as Adolf Hitle, who, as

1079
01:18:48.640 --> 01:18:54.520
you know, Abel Basti, is
one of the biggest riders who defends this

1080
01:18:54.520 --> 01:18:57.880
thesis. The truth is that to
this day, Juange has not been able

1081
01:18:57.960 --> 01:19:01.680
to find a document is p sol
about the existence of diek block. But

1082
01:19:02.159 --> 01:19:06.880
if there is the base, if
there was the engineer, if there was

1083
01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:11.880
the development and something very important,
Juan Ge the truth is that Adolf Hitra

1084
01:19:11.920 --> 01:19:15.960
if he aimed to develop any amount
of exti technology and why not say it,

1085
01:19:16.680 --> 01:19:21.720
how more exciting for a Nazi than
to tell him that he would have

1086
01:19:23.000 --> 01:19:26.800
a gun, that he would challenge
the gravity and with which he would be

1087
01:19:27.159 --> 01:19:29.399
able to travel in time for what
that applied. Well, I mean,

1088
01:19:29.520 --> 01:19:31.600
there' s a few things in
there that are confusing and other things that

1089
01:19:31.680 --> 01:19:34.960
are so clear to me. And
if they would make this story real,

1090
01:19:35.039 --> 01:19:41.920
let' s see in those documents
what he talks about and the shock to

1091
01:19:42.079 --> 01:19:46.960
see is talked about actually, that
is, they create this bell to kill

1092
01:19:47.039 --> 01:19:50.560
people in a war, if a
gun, they create it as a weapon.

1093
01:19:50.560 --> 01:19:54.600
And in addition, there is talk
of a compound that is being a

1094
01:19:54.720 --> 01:20:00.720
five hundred twenty- five, that
is a compound that they put in chemical

1095
01:20:00.199 --> 01:20:06.039
between two coaxial rotors, and that
this chemical compound, being between those two

1096
01:20:06.119 --> 01:20:11.640
rotors, was able to kill people
around 200 meters and doing those experiments of

1097
01:20:11.760 --> 01:20:16.520
how to kill people And such and
with a kind of chemical weapon, mechanical

1098
01:20:17.359 --> 01:20:23.520
chemistry, is when they begin those
effects of anti- gravity and sheath that

1099
01:20:23.560 --> 01:20:27.560
they didn' t even expect themselves
and then I think they didn' t

1100
01:20:27.680 --> 01:20:31.279
know how to investigate this gets silver
kill or clear, because antigravity would have

1101
01:20:31.279 --> 01:20:33.720
some fucking applications. What is true
is that this antigravity thing and if they

1102
01:20:34.079 --> 01:20:39.600
were able to develop it, a
German scientist who was Rudol Shewer, who

1103
01:20:40.560 --> 01:20:45.079
is the famó who designs the famous
flying saucers of the Nazis, exactly that

1104
01:20:45.239 --> 01:20:50.960
is the only way for that kind
of flying saucers to somehow come to work.

1105
01:20:54.800 --> 01:20:59.000
Couldn' t be conventionally powered.
It had to be by force,

1106
01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:05.520
with a kind of propulsion that challenged
gravity. And it' s funny how

1107
01:21:05.680 --> 01:21:12.000
many Omnis researchers say those buckets that
arrive here take advantage of the same gravity

1108
01:21:12.039 --> 01:21:14.279
of the earth exactly before it.
Gravity is a force. If we had

1109
01:21:14.359 --> 01:21:20.600
the technology, I think I know
how to take advantage of clear hatred and

1110
01:21:20.720 --> 01:21:25.560
they came to that scientific principle.
Clearly, John could have developed it,

1111
01:21:25.720 --> 01:21:29.239
and about what you say not only
this Nazi engineer. María Orcich, who

1112
01:21:29.359 --> 01:21:34.119
belonged to the brill society within what
was Tule society, a very deep subgroup

1113
01:21:34.199 --> 01:21:40.359
within Tule society. In order to
contextualize the listeners, María Orsic, one

1114
01:21:40.439 --> 01:21:45.560
of the most important visionaries within the
Socialist National, a very beautiful woman of

1115
01:21:45.720 --> 01:21:49.680
Austrian origin, a woman who,
according to the information, through automatic writing,

1116
01:21:50.439 --> 01:21:57.760
was able to channel messages from beings
of the constellation of Taurus, who

1117
01:21:57.760 --> 01:22:04.680
provided her with a plan with which
anti- vital technology could be created.

1118
01:22:05.239 --> 01:22:09.800
As you will know, the Nazis
sought not only knowledge through science, but

1119
01:22:09.880 --> 01:22:15.439
through myth. At the same time
he hides them. For this plan in

1120
01:22:15.479 --> 01:22:20.600
Herve they had forty- three departments
there to investigate that thing that we like

1121
01:22:20.600 --> 01:22:26.479
exactly, exactly John, so,
by Uro, on the other hand,

1122
01:22:27.159 --> 01:22:30.039
they could clearly have come to this
knowledge. Yeah, sure, and there

1123
01:22:30.119 --> 01:22:31.720
' s too many details. Not
only the east compound of being a five

1124
01:22:31.760 --> 01:22:38.479
hundred and twenty- five, but
the dishes that rough design is sheware i

1125
01:22:38.479 --> 01:22:41.000
e. And you have to say
one thing and a store, a documentary,

1126
01:22:41.920 --> 01:22:45.640
a subject that struck me a lot, a documentary about this, and

1127
01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:50.439
it' s that there was a
filming of one of the first tests that

1128
01:22:51.319 --> 01:22:56.840
Bon Brown did with a rocket long
before the Nazi Germany rant of the twenties,

1129
01:22:57.439 --> 01:23:00.800
so you watch the video and you
die of laughter because it' s

1130
01:23:00.920 --> 01:23:03.600
a rocket and it shoots, it
turns around, it falls and it'

1131
01:23:03.600 --> 01:23:04.399
s a cake that, I mean, it' s ridiculous. Okay,

1132
01:23:05.720 --> 01:23:11.840
everybody laughed at him and the Nazis
said it' s silly. Someone'

1133
01:23:11.840 --> 01:23:15.600
s done it so far. He' s putting in a liquid fuel,

1134
01:23:15.680 --> 01:23:19.479
a rocket is making him not come
give him money and give the equipment and

1135
01:23:19.479 --> 01:23:24.000
investigate and notice what made the final
financial sky, that is, don'

1136
01:23:24.119 --> 01:23:27.880
t laugh, because it' s
a start. The idea is good,

1137
01:23:28.319 --> 01:23:33.920
yes financitate it and in that male
sense these people were an incredible thing.

1138
01:23:34.479 --> 01:23:40.640
That' s why the big developed
countries are investing the most. That research

1139
01:23:40.720 --> 01:23:45.479
and development animal investigates a thousand things
and of those a thousand things one will

1140
01:23:45.520 --> 01:23:49.119
work and now that your economy changes
exactly effectively. Gentlemen, well we hooked

1141
01:23:49.199 --> 01:23:54.520
up with this the Nazis, we
loved the subject as a blind, and

1142
01:23:54.600 --> 01:23:58.600
we were talking to David Zurdo,
with our good friend on the Nazi issue,

1143
01:23:58.880 --> 01:24:03.199
and now we were going to change
from you to keep moving forward on

1144
01:24:03.279 --> 01:24:09.239
unknown stories, the redundancy that have
happened in history and the interview with David

1145
01:24:09.239 --> 01:24:12.760
Zurdo continues like this. And to
close a topic that I' m passionate

1146
01:24:12.880 --> 01:24:15.920
about because it' s a topic
that our friend Newton liked and dedicated everything

1147
01:24:15.039 --> 01:24:19.560
to and that he spent more time
in his life than making the theory of

1148
01:24:19.640 --> 01:24:27.479
what gravity was and how it is
to decipher the Code of the Bible that,

1149
01:24:28.199 --> 01:24:30.000
according to Newton, we palmed it
in the two thousand and sixty.

1150
01:24:30.359 --> 01:24:33.000
What' s this about the Bible
code? Then came a mathematician and real,

1151
01:24:33.079 --> 01:24:36.239
Michael Drourning, gave him this two
point. Well, there are several

1152
01:24:36.239 --> 01:24:40.000
codes ofÁvila, but let'
s say the extended bar. The first

1153
01:24:40.079 --> 01:24:43.840
five books of the Bible for the
Christian world are The Pentateuch, for the

1154
01:24:43.880 --> 01:24:46.039
Jewish world are the Torah, but
they are the same five books made,

1155
01:24:46.199 --> 01:24:51.119
the same. Moreover, they are
evidently in Hebrew, they have been saying

1156
01:24:51.159 --> 01:24:54.920
for many centuries. It is debatable
if they have not changed, if there

1157
01:24:54.920 --> 01:24:57.960
have been alterations, but in theory, if someone makes a copy of the

1158
01:24:58.000 --> 01:25:00.520
Torah and is wrong in a single
letter, it must be buried, destroyed.

1159
01:25:00.560 --> 01:25:02.800
But it must be ruled out.
Well, in any case, it

1160
01:25:02.840 --> 01:25:06.960
' s been known for a long
time that they' re say a collection

1161
01:25:08.039 --> 01:25:12.279
of letters that are always the same. This is important when it is in

1162
01:25:12.359 --> 01:25:15.279
clear Hebrew, when it is seen
to be the original or the original or

1163
01:25:15.319 --> 01:25:18.840
the most original, at least we
have, because maybe a part was written

1164
01:25:18.920 --> 01:25:23.119
in another older language. Who knows, but what has come is in Hebrew

1165
01:25:23.239 --> 01:25:27.159
when it is translated into English,
Spanish or Chinese. Obviously, that'

1166
01:25:27.239 --> 01:25:30.920
s already broken. Well, what
happens that the letters for the Jews,

1167
01:25:30.960 --> 01:25:35.800
also for the Greeks, have a
numerical value. But for the Jews there

1168
01:25:36.119 --> 01:25:42.640
was the gemacy that is the art
of saying that when a word has when

1169
01:25:42.800 --> 01:25:45.960
converting words into letters forgive numbers one
value and another has the same value.

1170
01:25:46.720 --> 01:25:49.680
There is a mystical connection between them. I' m going to explain it

1171
01:25:49.680 --> 01:25:51.560
a little better, because maybe this
isn' t well understood. For example,

1172
01:25:51.680 --> 01:25:56.840
the aleph is a value one,
that is, of memory, but

1173
01:25:56.920 --> 01:25:59.840
the jud then, perhaps, is
a value seven and the tau is the

1174
01:26:00.239 --> 01:26:02.920
ten. So, if a word
is written with these three letters, you

1175
01:26:02.960 --> 01:26:06.920
can add their values and it comes
out for me that I know, for

1176
01:26:06.920 --> 01:26:11.079
example, seventeen. If another word
with more or less letters, because the

1177
01:26:11.199 --> 01:26:15.000
values are different, it also gives
seventeen for the Jews. In one of

1178
01:26:15.039 --> 01:26:20.640
the currents of thought is that they
have a connection. Let' s say

1179
01:26:20.640 --> 01:26:24.960
mystical what happens. Of course,
if you explore the Bible with those letters

1180
01:26:25.039 --> 01:26:29.319
thinking that there is a coded message
from God himself, no less than I

1181
01:26:29.439 --> 01:26:33.079
know that it inspires it according to
tradition, of course you can find messages

1182
01:26:33.159 --> 01:26:38.680
that can give you information far beyond
that which is in the text itself We

1183
01:26:38.680 --> 01:26:41.880
will call it clear, as a
christograph of the Torah would say, there

1184
01:26:42.039 --> 01:26:45.039
is a phrase that is that everything
that has been is and will be is

1185
01:26:45.039 --> 01:26:48.119
in the Torah. That is what
the ancient Jews think then clear and now

1186
01:26:48.399 --> 01:26:54.800
also clear that it happens that in
the end you are supposed to find those

1187
01:26:54.880 --> 01:26:57.560
messages or that key that allows you
to decipher God' s plan. Well,

1188
01:26:57.560 --> 01:27:00.520
well, actually, what you were
saying, Newton was one of the

1189
01:27:00.520 --> 01:27:02.800
great scholars, also of alchemy,
is that in Newton' s time,

1190
01:27:03.199 --> 01:27:05.840
alchemy wasn' t a science that
was devoted to disa laugh or something so

1191
01:27:06.079 --> 01:27:09.720
it seems that now of the alchemists
is that they didn' t know what

1192
01:27:09.760 --> 01:27:12.439
they were saying was that it was
a very serious thing. I think the

1193
01:27:12.520 --> 01:27:17.279
boom of this too is to understand
in the West the Jewish cabal, which

1194
01:27:17.399 --> 01:27:20.079
is thousands of years old, because
the Jewish one finished it what she thinks

1195
01:27:20.239 --> 01:27:26.920
is that Jesus Christ. What brutality
I have just said that God, that

1196
01:27:26.920 --> 01:27:30.399
God, that the moment of creation
not only occurs in the past, but

1197
01:27:30.680 --> 01:27:34.239
is constant. Today people are born, everything is created, so and so

1198
01:27:34.720 --> 01:27:39.960
that God can communicate with us in
that act of creation through the number of

1199
01:27:40.119 --> 01:27:44.680
colored letters and so and so clearly
speaking what is the connection, which is

1200
01:27:44.720 --> 01:27:49.720
the complicated. Indeed, then you
take the Torah which is the Old Testament.

1201
01:27:50.920 --> 01:27:57.520
You take the Hebrew tone and then
you start looking for code numbers to

1202
01:27:57.680 --> 01:28:00.119
look for messages from God that have
not been warned, which is going to

1203
01:28:00.119 --> 01:28:03.039
happen, for example, tomorrow,
as Newton did, which is that he

1204
01:28:03.119 --> 01:28:06.359
dedicated his whole life. This is
what happens is that there are a lot

1205
01:28:06.439 --> 01:28:12.039
more like letter soups, relocating letters
in different ways, looking for similarities in

1206
01:28:12.359 --> 01:28:15.279
numerical series, that is, there
are many ways to do it, even

1207
01:28:15.359 --> 01:28:17.319
turning the tora around and looking the
other way around. I mean, it

1208
01:28:17.399 --> 01:28:20.119
' s very complex, logically,
but it' s what you' re

1209
01:28:20.119 --> 01:28:24.239
trying to do. Yes, finding
that message or those divine messages. And

1210
01:28:24.359 --> 01:28:27.439
then there came a mathematician, Michael
Dronning, who lined himself with the Lo

1211
01:28:27.439 --> 01:28:30.119
Bible Code. The mathematician was Yahur
Rips. Mike tons Ni was the New

1212
01:28:30.720 --> 01:28:34.399
York reporter who did it. Famous. Mike Honding wrote the famous book,

1213
01:28:34.560 --> 01:28:39.359
the secret code of the Bible,
but it was him and already hur Rips

1214
01:28:39.439 --> 01:28:42.479
is the mathematician that what he did
was say okay. Well, now that

1215
01:28:42.560 --> 01:28:45.880
we have computers, let' s
do this better. We are not going

1216
01:28:45.920 --> 01:28:49.760
to do it by hand, nor
are we going to do a computer program

1217
01:28:49.960 --> 01:28:54.560
that allows us to perform searches in
reason, a series of mathematical criteria,

1218
01:28:54.720 --> 01:28:59.319
which is the repositioning of letters,
the repositioning of series. Let' s

1219
01:28:59.359 --> 01:29:01.760
just put it down right away.
This is all very complex. You wouldn

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01:29:01.760 --> 01:29:04.079
' t have to make drawings to
understand the best. No, but the

1221
01:29:04.119 --> 01:29:09.439
fact is that, looking in those
letters for hidden messages, because programmed by

1222
01:29:09.439 --> 01:29:13.239
computer, they found one that was
dramatic in its day, which is the

1223
01:29:13.319 --> 01:29:16.800
death of Isaac Rabin, who was
the Prime Minister of Israel, this happens.

1224
01:29:17.039 --> 01:29:19.359
It seems to me that it was
in' 93 that they tried to

1225
01:29:19.359 --> 01:29:23.399
warn him. He says good.
He can' t believe this and then

1226
01:29:23.439 --> 01:29:28.279
it turns out they go and murder
him effectively, as predicted well. For

1227
01:29:28.560 --> 01:29:32.039
a skeptic you may think it'
s obviously a coincidence. I think chance

1228
01:29:32.119 --> 01:29:35.840
exists. Found what a lot of
people think, I think they exist,

1229
01:29:36.079 --> 01:29:39.920
and there are times when there are
coincidences. We see it It can often

1230
01:29:39.960 --> 01:29:43.159
be a coincidence, that is,
no, not a sheik, but it

1231
01:29:43.239 --> 01:29:45.720
' s a striking enough chance not
to think it' s a coincidence and

1232
01:29:45.720 --> 01:29:49.000
that' s it. Maybe,
or maybe not. Yeah. Sure,

1233
01:29:49.039 --> 01:29:51.960
sure, he' s clear and
he' s looking forward to it,

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01:29:51.960 --> 01:29:55.760
so here he comes. Rabin'
s murder made him famous in the world

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01:29:56.119 --> 01:29:59.239
and Radin' s murder just changed
the history of Israel and the Middle East,

1236
01:29:59.680 --> 01:30:04.319
because he signed the wave agreements that
could then be carried out. David

1237
01:30:04.359 --> 01:30:10.680
Zurdo, my friend, how I
have fun with you going over the most

1238
01:30:10.760 --> 01:30:13.560
unusual parts of history. I want
to thank you because you' ve made

1239
01:30:13.600 --> 01:30:15.159
a hole in your schedule that I
know is so messed up that Romano'

1240
01:30:16.039 --> 01:30:20.239
s leg is not happy. I' m happy every time I interview you

1241
01:30:20.319 --> 01:30:26.279
and see you in Madrid, soon, we' ll have some canes and

1242
01:30:26.279 --> 01:30:30.439
some good tapas. All right,
listen to how you can follow people and

1243
01:30:30.479 --> 01:30:31.359
stuff, but I know who you
want to follow. Some, you can

1244
01:30:31.479 --> 01:30:34.520
special that something. You can mostly, Twitter is the only thing I have,

1245
01:30:34.760 --> 01:30:41.479
whatever it' s called now that
X doesn' t, well it

1246
01:30:41.880 --> 01:30:44.680
' s David Zurdo arroba or it' s my full name David Zurdo.

1247
01:30:44.800 --> 01:30:50.479
All followed one left is with z
We already know that Zurdo would be for

1248
01:30:50.600 --> 01:30:53.479
only the Spaniards, say by the
cet. So rare, no, but

1249
01:30:53.680 --> 01:30:58.239
good and then on the website,
for example, of RTV, which is

1250
01:30:58.359 --> 01:31:01.039
Spanish television radio, because there are
podcasts of the programs that I am doing

1251
01:31:01.159 --> 01:31:05.880
or where I collaborate. Not that
your podcast is called the main one,

1252
01:31:06.079 --> 01:31:09.680
which is the program I present,
it' s called the past. It

1253
01:31:09.720 --> 01:31:13.119
' s not what was very good
anymore, mate, because super recommended that

1254
01:31:13.199 --> 01:31:15.560
podcast of the past is no longer
what it was. Friend, little brother

1255
01:31:15.600 --> 01:31:18.359
of a hug and see us in
Madrid right now is worth a hug to

1256
01:31:18.439 --> 01:31:23.840
You and everyone. Come ta later, Chauch. I enjoy communian whenever I

1257
01:31:23.880 --> 01:31:29.039
interview Day Zurdo, which is a
huge intercurrent. I don' t know

1258
01:31:29.079 --> 01:31:35.640
how many books have forty fifty simple, impossible languages or apart, it'

1259
01:31:35.720 --> 01:31:39.640
s better person being human. And
I' m looking forward to those canes,

1260
01:31:40.880 --> 01:31:45.159
those canes in Madrid, and I
think it' s been a review

1261
01:31:46.039 --> 01:31:50.640
of a number of facts that make
us have to rethink history and not just

1262
01:31:50.640 --> 01:31:55.359
that. Look at this last story. The book that becomes so famous of

1263
01:31:56.039 --> 01:31:58.960
Michael Dronning, that I was really
wrong in mathematicians, is called rips surnames

1264
01:31:59.000 --> 01:32:02.279
the one who pulls out this computer
program and starts looking for that kind of

1265
01:32:02.399 --> 01:32:08.600
message. And why not and why
you can' t be right. The

1266
01:32:08.760 --> 01:32:14.560
cava, the bean and that kind
of message. They' re telling us

1267
01:32:14.640 --> 01:32:17.199
information about things that are going to
happen. And Isaac Newton dedicated his whole

1268
01:32:17.319 --> 01:32:21.439
life to this more for a certain
year two thousand sixty. According to Mr

1269
01:32:21.520 --> 01:32:25.960
Newton, we' re going to
fuck that at this juncture with climate change

1270
01:32:26.079 --> 01:32:28.880
and more than a madman out there
who has nuclear power who wants to go

1271
01:32:28.960 --> 01:32:32.520
to war, because the same thing
wasn' t so crazy. I have

1272
01:32:32.560 --> 01:32:35.560
been lucky, for example, to
be in that fet that is today'

1273
01:32:35.640 --> 01:32:45.600
s World Cabal Center in Israel.
And no uncle is exciting. I mean,

1274
01:32:45.680 --> 01:32:51.159
I recognize that when I was giving
us a Jewish cabalist talk and so

1275
01:32:53.119 --> 01:33:00.000
the talks were masterful, that is, they first saved us from quantum physics.

1276
01:33:00.720 --> 01:33:02.960
And how to this of what is
above and below it seemed in all

1277
01:33:03.079 --> 01:33:10.359
these ancient texts. And such is
no longer speaking for speaking, but there

1278
01:33:10.399 --> 01:33:14.279
is an invisible world that is connected
with this. And then, speaking of

1279
01:33:14.319 --> 01:33:18.439
that invisible world, did we get
a flip- floppy globe? With this,

1280
01:33:19.399 --> 01:33:23.560
it will be the earth globe that
the type Y is going to do

1281
01:33:23.600 --> 01:33:31.079
and whatever it did to me was
putting the music of the world according to

1282
01:33:31.159 --> 01:33:36.199
the latitude from north to south it
is worth what the music will be like

1283
01:33:36.319 --> 01:33:45.000
in Central Africa, how the Caribbean
sounds, how it sounds in the United

1284
01:33:45.159 --> 01:33:48.680
States and how are the civilizations that
inhabit there and they talked about how it

1285
01:33:48.680 --> 01:33:50.600
is a universal vibration and how about
ours. Mind comes out a music that

1286
01:33:50.680 --> 01:33:55.640
matches how we' re living and
such stories and I don' t know

1287
01:33:55.640 --> 01:34:00.680
what. Then of course you get
that talk a rabbi wow flips it'

1288
01:34:00.800 --> 01:34:05.560
s a pass. I thought it
was a super, super crazy thing.

1289
01:34:05.720 --> 01:34:11.239
No. Then, of course,
I do not refuse as did the ann

1290
01:34:11.279 --> 01:34:17.880
in herrbe to see really beyond the
apparent, to investigate that it is worth

1291
01:34:17.960 --> 01:34:21.920
that very broad knowledge. Yes,
broader than science. Science is a method

1292
01:34:21.960 --> 01:34:27.640
of knowledge, it' s something
much broader and it' s worth scuba

1293
01:34:27.720 --> 01:34:31.039
diving and getting in. Around there, John G Isaac Newton had a concentration

1294
01:34:31.119 --> 01:34:36.560
of heavy metals fourteen times higher than
that of any other human being. And

1295
01:34:36.720 --> 01:34:41.960
this is a fascinating story because it
turns out that this man, in his

1296
01:34:42.079 --> 01:34:45.800
youth, apart from being obsessed with
the Bible and having been one of the

1297
01:34:45.960 --> 01:34:49.600
most brilliant physicists and scientific minds of
all time, actually Isaac Newton wanted to

1298
01:34:49.800 --> 01:34:56.840
be an alchemist and from a very
young age began to perform such a number

1299
01:34:56.880 --> 01:35:05.039
of juange experiments with antinomial arsenic lead
that when they examined his remains recently,

1300
01:35:05.760 --> 01:35:14.920
British scientists determined that in Mr Isaac
Newton' s hair there are fourteen times

1301
01:35:15.039 --> 01:35:19.159
as many heavy metals as in any
other human being in history. Testing alchemy,

1302
01:35:19.520 --> 01:35:25.439
testing alchemy. John ge and another
surprising fact of this is that,

1303
01:35:25.560 --> 01:35:29.960
according to these men, it is
possible that Isaac Newton, one of the

1304
01:35:30.039 --> 01:35:34.239
brightest minds history, after doing those
experiments of alchemy, could have had hallucinations,

1305
01:35:34.800 --> 01:35:42.680
for having contact with these substances John
Gessi, hallucinations perhaps saw the theory

1306
01:35:42.720 --> 01:35:45.760
of relativity, of reality, forgiveness
of gravity, of the gravity of age.

1307
01:35:47.800 --> 01:35:55.920
Everything is exactly exploring another plane of
consciousness. Perhaps it allowed him to

1308
01:35:56.039 --> 01:36:00.880
find the key to gaining access to
another knowledge, a very, very,

1309
01:36:01.000 --> 01:36:04.239
very sneaky character of people who criticized
him a lot, who was very bad

1310
01:36:04.359 --> 01:36:10.680
human being and who was super cruel
And such you know that they made him

1311
01:36:10.760 --> 01:36:11.840
lord So, then, he had
to go to the Chamber of Sorrows.

1312
01:36:13.159 --> 01:36:15.560
You know the only sentence he uttered
all the time he was in the House

1313
01:36:15.600 --> 01:36:21.079
of Lords. Please close the cold
window. It is the only phrase he

1314
01:36:21.079 --> 01:36:26.680
uttered in the world of politics that
interested him in politics. That' s

1315
01:36:27.319 --> 01:36:31.279
good for me to fall. That
makes me like Mr Isaac Newton. Anyway,

1316
01:36:31.479 --> 01:36:34.520
end up with a smile. I
think it' s always a very

1317
01:36:34.520 --> 01:36:39.159
positive thing. Alejandro Bernal, a
friend who is happy, after almost two

1318
01:36:39.159 --> 01:36:41.960
months, to be here again,
in Bogotá, in house, here on

1319
01:36:42.079 --> 01:36:45.640
Caracol Radio, to be in contact
with the listeners through the probe and to

1320
01:36:45.760 --> 01:36:50.000
do what we know, to do, which is to talk about mystery and

1321
01:36:50.119 --> 01:36:54.199
journalism of mystery, to do what
we love most, which is to do

1322
01:36:54.199 --> 01:36:58.039
Radio Juange. And as a conclusion
of this episode, I believe that David

1323
01:36:58.239 --> 01:37:01.640
Zurdo shows us once again that not
everything ancient is archaic, that we have

1324
01:37:01.680 --> 01:37:04.960
to look at the past with much
respect. As Davis himself said, the

1325
01:37:04.960 --> 01:37:09.159
people of the past were not stupid
to see. I think it is a

1326
01:37:09.319 --> 01:37:13.279
precept that must be re- evaluated
above all and that is being re-

1327
01:37:13.960 --> 01:37:15.960
evaluated fortunately, in our day.
There is knowledge that surpasses us, that

1328
01:37:16.439 --> 01:37:21.479
far surpass us and that has to
do with peoples, ancient cultures and civilizations.

1329
01:37:21.840 --> 01:37:25.760
So it is an invitation to look
at the past with more respect,

1330
01:37:25.960 --> 01:37:30.000
with more admiration and, above all, to learn to build ourselves from our

1331
01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:35.439
roots, to take the best of
those ancient peoples and hopefully, to bring

1332
01:37:35.600 --> 01:37:41.680
them into our time and hopefully,
from a perspective and an optics that will

1333
01:37:41.680 --> 01:37:43.479
help us evolve. As a species. Juan ge and they can follow me

1334
01:37:43.560 --> 01:37:48.159
on social networks, on Instagram,
in alebernal press arroba Instagram abernal Prez con

1335
01:37:48.199 --> 01:37:51.680
les. Thank you very much,
Jorge, Good, little sir. Hereje

1336
01:37:51.840 --> 01:37:56.279
says I love the interview like the
one done with David Zurdo, because I

1337
01:37:56.279 --> 01:38:00.319
get into a fantastic past, a
past that is worth learning from, that

1338
01:38:01.039 --> 01:38:06.479
is worth learning even from some villains, as were the Nazis, because even

1339
01:38:06.960 --> 01:38:15.359
in the darkest soul in the world, there is always a light. So

1340
01:38:15.399 --> 01:38:18.880
it' s great that we look
at our past so that certain things don

1341
01:38:19.600 --> 01:38:26.720
' t happen again and it'
s great for us to look at that

1342
01:38:27.439 --> 01:38:30.960
human talent has been able to cross
the boundaries of the time we' ve

1343
01:38:30.960 --> 01:38:35.119
done wonderful things. And that light
and that ability to do wonderful things is

1344
01:38:35.239 --> 01:38:42.479
what always makes us have an eternal
ability to dream as well. Never lose

1345
01:38:42.600 --> 01:38:46.159
it. Neither do you. Never
stop believing, never stop dreaming and never

1346
01:38:46.560 --> 01:38:51.279
forget that we live in a magical
world, because it is full of mystery