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As a matter of fact, everyone' s in there now. My name

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is Juan Jesús Vallejo. I'
m a journalist, writer and director of

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the Mystery Night program on Caracol Radio. I send you a greeting from the

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city of Istanbul. At the bottom
of this window behind me, you will

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be looking at the Bosphorus Strait separating
Europe from Asia. It is like a

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sort of rumor that appears in countless
ancient cultures the existence of other humanities before

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it. Or it will sound,
for example, the story of the Greek

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philosopher Plato, who in two of
his works, the Timeo and the Critias,

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told us of the Lántida, an
island on which men and gods lived

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together on the face of the earth
and which had a technology that even today

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we feel impossible. But this is
not the only case. There are others,

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such as, for example, the
Moo continent, of which civilizations like

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the Maya tell us, in this
case, a fantastic continent with a technology

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also possible, but in the Pacific
Ocean. But if you want to know

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about this and much more, don' t miss the last mystery night podcast

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on Caracol Radio. Lost civilizations,
a humanity before it, a humanity that

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was left on horseback between myth and
legend, entire lost continents, like Lántida,

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like Lemuria, a time adored before
man created those that we think are

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the first civilizations of the earth,
as it is, for example, the

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ancient Sumeria. However, more and
more it is up to us to rewrite

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the history and appearance, for example, of the gobeclitepe temples in Turkey that

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have to go back to more than
twelve zero years of age, make us

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see our past with other eyes,
and that is that we have a history

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that not only does not stop rewriting, but that we have a history that

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should begin to open up to other
possibilities, possibilities in which we think that

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men and gods walked together on the
face of the earth And that is that

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throughout this planet there were countless legends
and myths that open up to us from

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another, We speak of other worlds
that were on this, not only the

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famous Atlantis that Plato described to us, for example, Poseidonia, to the

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south of Italy, Lemuria in the
Pacific Ocean, Hyperborea, to the north

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of the Atlantic Ocean, continents that
remained, as I said before, on

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horseback between myth and legend, but
that would be the only way to explain

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that their existence was real. It
is the only way to understand that we

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have myths that are shared throughout the
world, such as, for example,

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the flood myth, that share more
than two hundred cultures in the world,

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such as the fact that there are
pyramids and that they are buildings of worship

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to the gods in places like Africa, in Egypt, in places like Indonesia,

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in particular with a padan, in
Asia or, for example, in

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Caral, in Peru. And it' s like, suddenly that ancient world,

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where men and gods walked together,
collapsed and from there we had to

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start walking again. And now archaeology, science and research are bringing us closer

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and closer to that world of legend
that every second becomes more real to us.

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And I imagine those worlds of legend
with fantastic technology, with a technology

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that is possible even to come from
other worlds, building gigantic temples, moving

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stones that could weigh millions of kilos. And this is not a metaphor or

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a vulgar lucubration, because, for
example, in Balbeck, in Lebanon,

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we have a carved and moved stone
that weighs with forgiveness more than two million

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kilograms. Or, for example,
when we go to Egypt and go to

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the Rosa granite quarry and we see
an unfinished obelisk that had a million,

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that had, that has a million, two hundred thousand kilograms and they were

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carving it because they were planning to
move it. How they had that capacity.

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In ancient times we had another very
advanced humanity and this disappearance. Or

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it was beings of the stars who
came here and were the forgers of that

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world of legend, creating the foundations
of a mother civilization. Everything is lost

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in the dawn of time, in
a time of magic and legend that we

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are going to walk through today.
My name is Juan Jesús Vallejo. What

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the facts on the table and you
decide what' s behind it and what

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' s not. You believe that
there really was the Atlantis Lemuria Hiperborea,

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the avalanche of which we were found, for example, by the ancients.

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Celtic all your comments and opinions through
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In the second fortnight of this month
of September of the year two thousand twenty

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- four I will be walking again
Egypt, walking next to the wonder of

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the Pyramids on the plateau of Giza, or sailing and enjoying the magic of

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the Nile. All that interests you
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this trip to Egypt and we start
without further delay. Alejandro Bernal, partner

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friend, how you are very good
then for you also for our guest except

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for this program, Miguel Labrador,
from Spain, and an hour is huge

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for all those who consume this content
that we are posting every week through the

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YouTube channel of Caracol Radio. On
this occasion juange, as you well mentioned,

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in the introduction lost continents, mythical
lands of Atlantis to Hiperboria. Echoes

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of a past where perhaps mankind came
to a splendor, at a golden age,

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as some researchers attribute. And we' re going to be examining these

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myths, these stories, an exciting
walk through the pure and hard mystery.

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on YouTube if they had the opportunity to

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travel to the past, but there
could only be one of those continents about

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this, a lost world and perborea
Atlántida lemoria to Lyrias and why Guau.

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As you well know, Juan Ge
has always fascinated me with occultism and esotericism.

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I mean, I was actually on
an editorial project about it. So,

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because of that closeness and that taste, Hyperborea, because for socialist nationals

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it was the origin of the area
race to see if it actually existed and

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in fact, a fact of which
I hope to expand later, if you

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allow us. The podcast and it
is said that long ago he played in

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Ge even atlanteans and hyperborians were in
a confrontation and the Atlanteans did not want

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to confront the hyperbories because of their
portentous, not good size of Nazi.

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Then you talked about it calmly,
which was really crazy. It has been

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so convinced that Hiperboria existed, that
we will then give the historical basis that

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this island, with this civilization,
existed and they were convinced that they were

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defending directly from hyperboreans and that then
they mixed some malandrines, they mixed with

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another race and we went out the
rest of mortals, like me that my

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gone one meter seventy and I'
m bald. Well then, here are

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the imperfects of the world against Nazism
and absolutism, of course. So so

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good, and we' re going
to start now without nuance also with our

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luxury guest, which is the second
time he' s here on mystery night.

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A few months ago we did another
podcast with Miguel Labrador, who was

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called if he titled The Stones of
the Gods, which has a hundred and

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a thousand reproductions, and here we
have it again tonight. Miguel Labrador,

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my friend, how are you,
how are you? I already wanted to

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go back with you to talk about
our passions. And the truth is that

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enchanted, no, and the truth
is that good already for what you are

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commenting, because it is going to
be a very, very interesting topic and

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is one of the cornerstones of what
has always impassioned me, of that possible

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stage, that previous humanity that reflects
in the book. And I' m

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saying it' s one of the
cornerstones of the book, because I think

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it' s the fundamental thing to
start seeing that before those five zero years

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we have as civilizational history. Well, I think a long time ago and

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when I say a lot of time, I say thousands of years ago,

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there was a civilization. I do
believe, moreover, that that civilization or

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civilizations had that golden age and that
I had already questioned it for many years,

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when the Sumerians themselves that are in
theory, those who initiate the civilization

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that we have already seen, as
you said well before, with gobe cletepe

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that there was, it is already
certain that there were peoples with the capacities

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much more than we thought. But
of course I, when I see the

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Sumerians who invented practically everything and who
suddenly or leave their myths with that mythical

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arata of a people, supposedly very
much before them and who above were superior

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and knowledge and abilities and for them
it was a golden age. I have

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already begun to really question whether,
indeed, the Sumerian were the first.

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No. Okay. Little by little
we' re seeing that we don'

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t. And then, then,
as you said well, there are a

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lot of myths that, as I
always say, in the end the myths

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are proving most as true. So, I think it' s more serious

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than we' ve often seen and
legends don' t come out of nowhere.

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Miguel Bueno. The first thing I
want to say to all the people

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who are listening to us is that
the book of Michael Labrador is called The

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Stones of the Gods. Here,
in Latin America, you get it super

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easy or you get into Amazon or, you put the stones of the gods,

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Miguel Labrador, and that' s
where the book Good appears. Let

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' s start it, let'
s dedicate these first two blocks of the

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program to what I think is not
only the classic of the classics, but

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perhaps of these previous worlds, which
I think is best documented, which I

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think we can get closer to their
existence. And you correct me now,

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Michael, if you do not agree
with anything, it is good that it

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is Atlantis, because Atlantis turns out
to tell us about it a super important

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Greek philosopher, who is Plato around
the year three hundred and sixty BC,

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in two works of his, the
time and the critias. And what Plato

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tells us in these two works is
that Solon, the wise man went to

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Egypt, which was the country that
had the oldest knowledge, and there alone

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in the wise man spoke to the
priests of Sais. And the priests of

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Sais told him hear Solon, before
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and they tell a story to Solon, the sage of that great island

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that has a lot of canals,
where it could be reached, where men

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and gods lived together, where there
were huge walls of a metal alloy or

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walls that could be made of stone, but covered by a metallic ally that

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was called oricalco, that we do
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it had gold, it had bronze, possibly and some kind of metals.

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So and they describe a world with
a really amazing eye technology with this that

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this also engages with the same Egyptian
traditions that tell us about the land of

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ancestors and where there was a great
cataclysm, those a God and from there

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came men to what is the banks
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really. And besides, there is
a subject that is very clear to me

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also in this with what technologies the
pyramids of the gita plateau were built,

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because with our idea that we have
now I do not see it feasible.

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And besides, it' s curious
how what' s originally attributed to the

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fourth dynasty, that I don'
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the early dynasties had better technology than
the last ones, so this technology was

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lost came from very old, when
it is usually the other way around.

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Civilizations evolve from a lesser technology to
a greater technology and you leave in ancient

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Egypt And I when every year,
well, I, every year, travel

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with these author trips and I stand
in front of the statue of quefren,

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the statue of Diorita that is in
the Cairo Museum, that Miguel Labrador has

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seen for sure and I tell people
to see that this statue has more mystery

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in itself than the pyramid, because
how they were able to carve a stone

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right now, a rock with hardness
nine, that see the eyelids of the

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perfect Pharaoh, nails, detail And
to me, when an archaeologist arrives and

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tells me they did not take another
stone of now throw sand and rub,

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I say yes, and my grandmother
sang the tradiata in the mornings at eight

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in the morning. Not at all
to me and if not to be done

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in front of me, I see
it, I believe it, but nobody

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has. Then. The theory looks
very beautiful, but fatal practice. How

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was your lan research on Atlantis,
which you give a very extensive chapter in

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your book. And there for me
I already say it was like one of

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the bases. No, because of
course it' s true and I like

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to clarify it. On the one
hand, I understand perfectly that many archaeologists,

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that many historians, when you start
to hear something about Ltidad, you

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kind of repelled it not, but
in part I understand it because I think

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that, for example, we in
this program are going to put it a

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very serious point, point of view
and using it well. But I understand

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that it has always been a word, or many times a word that has

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been used for everything and in a
very, very, very, very,

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I do not know if to say, contemptuous, but certainly, not very

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positive. Then I say always with
a lot of respect, because already I

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say it has not always been used
well, not anymore I say what caught

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my attention from the lance is that
then it just coincided. No, because,

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as you mentioned before, of course
to Solon, in the time of

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Solon, we are talking about the
six hundred BC, but of course they

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had told him in the six hundred
BC that they were nine zero years ago,

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that is, that we are talking
just eleven six hundred years ago.

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In the previous program we talked about
gober take in depth that was just abandoned,

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well, abandoned, covered eleven six
hundred years ago. It' s

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not funny how things start to fit
in. It' s not impressive when

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I find out about it, because
of course I didn' t know.

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Yes, I knew which platoon,
indeed that of soleon, but of course

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I had never thought until relatively recently
what time it referred to. No,

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because, well, being before the
time of the first dynasties of Egypt,

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well, it could be six thousand
years ago, seven, one thousand years,

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eight thousand. No. No,
but it' s just eleven hundred

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years ago and they talk about that, too, about that island that disappears,

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and so on. Then, of
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' s starting to fit in.
So much in the end you say is

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that in the end the myths are
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it has happened and that those knowledge
and very recently I saw a program of

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Dr Miquel, the architect who made
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he commented all that. Not that, for example, the Pythagorean theorem,

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no, no, it' s
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it' s four zero years ahead. Not then, that is to say

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many times we thought that the Egyptians
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well, we do know what tools
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the twelfth or eighteenth dynasty, but
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really the knowledge they had was incredible, but incredible for now not to

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talk about four zero, in theory, four five hundred years ago, and

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those of the glasses of now are
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thousand years old. Yes, I
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that just what fits are the most
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we try to put it with what
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I say in the end I really
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actually happen and all the tests that
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going to do there goes to and
what you were also saying about the Nazis

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themselves, they are indeed saying it
ale because they are absolutely obsessed and the

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correct me itself gives you that you
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subject. I believe Himler himself,
not Hitler, but Himler, the head

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of the SS. I think he
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of the most wonderful places for me
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They weren' t there. I
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did leave the Tibet area of Nepal, that race area, as I understand

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it, but for them those survivors
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among other things, at four thousand
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area of Lake Titicaca. It would
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of survival. I don' t
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like Miguel. And so it is
that at that time the great explorer who

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stood out in this search for Atlantis
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a man who had an adventurous spirit
and who had come to privileged information by

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an Austrian military man who had been
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in Brazil, and the man had
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land of Tiaguanaco. When Edmund Kist
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the baby, which was the institution
with which the Nazings were looking for this

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kind of relics, treasures and origins
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it from a scientific point of view, as he Nunkis got the funding.

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He was in South America about the
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man began to do an investigation and
publish several articles there for the press.

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There are several magazines in Germany,
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for him Atlantis was in South America, it was specifically in Bolivia and that

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for him, clearly, this site
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society, of that mythical people from
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' s more, he went further. He even made a pretty interesting theory

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about the sun door. One of
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For ednun Kis it was a calendar
that related a great cataclysm that would

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have occurred in our world millions of
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the Atlanteans, in which, therefore, it was shown how the earth and

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the moon would have been involved in
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our planet. A rather interesting hypothesis
that adds up to what you say,

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Miguel Yeah, that, that.
What Alejandro Renal is talking about is that

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it' s brutal. Well Edmund
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' s Gate of the Sun and
the theory of world ice, is that

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the Nazis were obsessed with the fact
that there was a great cataclysm about twelve

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zero years ago or even older.
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talk about the Dranger, the Ranger
Drajas Me is the fatal name Valen in

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the next hour that yes, it' s true there was a cataclysm and

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it' s scientifically proven. But
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a tremendous silver cataclysm. This hyperborean
went to hell called the script of the

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program as usual and then they left
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on the planet, like Tibet.
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Tibet or for this reason the issue
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comment on the following, and that' s why I got in here.

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I don' t know if Miguel
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in front of you, too,
this tremonacs in wonder, me in front

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of the sun door. I hit
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hours. It' s crazy,
the sun door is a piece. It

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' s all about carving a single
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the place where it was originally set, but they raised and already but fixed

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what Alejandro Bernal said, that Edmounkies
said that the door of the Sun could

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be a calendar that would tell us
about a great world cataclysm. Check it

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out. The important thing is that
if you go to the door of the

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Sun and one of the things you
see at the door of the Sun you

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see a few rows of a thing
that the trumpeters call, which are cherubs

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that are playing fanfare, a lot
of censsymbols miss and then, in the

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central part above we have a character
that they call the God Llorón, who

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is a priest, a priest of
great power. It is evident that they

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have in their arms two ceremonial glasses
of each of the elbows eye. With

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this hangs a trophy head a human
head amputated and mummified, and he is

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crying. That' s why they
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say it' s a viracocha representation. It is absolutely not clear who the

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weeping god is, then that priest
who is crying, but who, even

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if he is a man of great
power and such down, those trumpeters as

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anuntantio fanfarrias like those of the Apocalypse, and such that he then gathers us,

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gathers the Bible to Ivan. It' s not casual. That'

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s very rare, which is what
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the Yaguanako sun. Yes, there
about everything you said and I had been

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told that their original location would be
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temple. Well, you really don' t know. And then it is

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also that, apparently, the fake
had always thought that that break, which

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has truth at the top, with
a corner that had been the product of

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lightning. Then there they told me
not that it was because of the transfer

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that broke because well, it took
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had really been by lightning. But, indeed, the information that I had

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was indeed that it was a matter
of living on cocha. But well,

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we don' t really know who
was viracocha how at all either. There

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' s really a lot of performances, but you know who I really was.

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But then it is a figure the
less enigmatic and whatever it was also

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because those investigations feared kills. Well, that possible venusine calendar that would more

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or less put me right. I
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zero or seventeen thousand years ago.
It would not theoretically coincide in that area

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if it were indeed a Venus calendar, but of impossible times. Again we

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would go even further behind time,
I say be Kitep then already make that

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mole in a single piece with that
level of detail. I think it'

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s impressive. We were talking to
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of Tiaguanaco, made in a single
block of stone so that people understand cia

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guanaco, although this I explain several
times. Basically, Tiaguanaco is on three

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levels. As the boy arrives.
Level where you are is the level where

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the door of the Sun is.
That is, the door of the sun,

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it would be on a cosmic religious
level that is marking time for us,

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the moment we are in. Although
that door of the sun may well

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tell us about the past. If
you follow that straight flat. There is

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an underground temple called the calasasayas if
I remember correctly, and it is an

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underground temple that would in principle be
a representation of the underworld, where a

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series of faces appear that come out
of the wall as if they came out

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from beyond. But in the part
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the right, as you enter through
the door I make you one on the

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right, there are the remains of
an ancient pyramid that is known as the

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acapana, the place with which men
would communicate with the gods and again a

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pyramid, but it is very rare. What a pity that the British dynamite

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her, because it would have been
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upper part is truncated and in the
middle there was water and to the surroundings

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of that water, of that pool, Andean stones that brought from many miles,

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which are magnetic and besides I made
it up to a documentary. You

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put a compass on it and it
goes crazy. He does one thing they

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brought magnetic stones for, and supposedly
they didn' t know about magnetism,

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sheath, or anything. It'
s a very rare thing that cosmogony is

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reflected in Tiaguanaco. The world of
the gods, the cloak of the world

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in which we live, at the
door of the Sun, the underworld,

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the Calasasaya or underground temple and really
many mysteries. About the dating of Aunt

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Guanaco. There are people who say
that they think they are five thousand years

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old and if we want to curl
the curl more, there appears an archaeological

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proof that is the Magna fountain,
where in that stone fountain we have and

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writes in ancient Sumerian that it is
five thousand years old, because the truth

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that edmont kis the only problem that
was NAPFI. But, otherwise, he

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was very smart, because he realized
that Tiwanako is something tremendously strange, very

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difficult to put into history. And
also fed by another book that at the

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time was published by Tule society to
contextualize the listeners Tule society, a group

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of apparently study and Nazi intellectuals who, through reviving the old Nordic traditions,

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wanted to revive what for them was
their primordial culture, their original culture,

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the area culture. And it turns
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two, Tule' s sociedature serves
the book Atlantis, the origin of the

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Aryans of Carl George Setge, and
this man had a very interesting hypothesis.

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He said that the origin of the
German race was the Aryan race and that

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it would have degenerated. Notice how
nas the Nazis put everything at their convenience

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had been generated by beginning to combine
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' s society had gone into decline. A great cataclysm had happened and the

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survivors of that mythical Atlantean race had
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highest parts of the world to try
to protect themselves, bring knowledge and maintain

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the legacy of the race area.
So edmun Kist, who already knew that

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book, also inspired by this theory
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Juange to check all this out.
I mean, it was a bergel.

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What the Nazis had in that respect
was clear and good. They stood up

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to the movie Dineana Jones is that
in that sense the archaeology and the fantastic,

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i e, I theo theo mecan
bad because they were racist and such,

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but come on I would have sung
worked in the n nerve, not

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the snow, but notice. In
addition, there is a bittersweet story,

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obviously that Edmond Kins gets from the
Bolivian government, which could reach up to

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twenty meters, could dig up to
twenty meters in Teagoanaco Observe. What we

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could have gotten the penalty in quotation
marks because it was joy, is that,

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as the Nazis lose the war,
then they stop investigating, they have

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to go back or they have to
run away, but they are not there

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then, well, I say,
it' s bittersweet, because fortunately,

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the Nazis lose the war, but
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I think I mentioned it in the
previous program when I interviewed eight Galician for

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the book that he spent three years
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He, well, he' s
made a discovery that I' m

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looking forward to making that at last, because well, it' s flippy

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what' s been discovered and I' m saying I asked him month ago

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and well several months ago if I
was finally going to get it out,

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because I was going to get it
out in October November. But the man,

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as he is there, so involved
in the Lula project in Saudi Arabia,

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because he has not yet been able
to. But even though it doesn

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' t go where I' d
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But it does show that we have
a lot left, because to see what

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guanaco and that it is incredible and
that tea guanaco. It' s good,

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it' s already amazing, but
that' s what it is.

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And then I also had one thing
here when I was there, because I

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thought more or less that. Yes, you can comment that what I could

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go through, because it was more
or less the whole dimension of the archaeological

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site, nothing, nothing. Nacho
Ga said to me that it is a

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barbarity what there is and little by
little they will narrow down. But that

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is a huge place and I already
say that discovery in part is because it

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has been possible to dig in an
area where it had not been excavated and

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have found spectacular that I, as
soon as I can, want it mystery

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night upset you, you do not
count, but I do not. Please,

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I loved it badly. But actually, that' s good. And

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so there are archaeologists who have thought
that the lántida could be Aunt Guanako,

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also because of the fact that it
is next to Lake Titicaca and it would

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be easy for there to be there. Well, also walls that were lost.

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Or whatever, but navigation and as
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that Tia is a possibility. I
don' t shut anything down. What

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is true is that I believe that
Tiaguanako has a thousand mysteries yet to be

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discovered. I didn' t know
if the fact that you' ve said

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now that the archaeological area is really
a lot bigger and that there' s

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nothing left to excavate everything and I' m not surprised at that puna that

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' s four zero meters high and
something that' s good. There are

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people who say that you Guanacoo is
five zero years old. It' s

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a fabulous place and one day I' d like to come back to you.

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I also wanted to comment, well, your research on Atlantis, apart

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from that we have commented on this
whole story of Tiaguanaco, begins with the

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island of Santorini, because there are
also many researchers who think that the island

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of Santorini. Well, Santonini Island
would be part of what was left of

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00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:36.119
a great volcanic eruption, of a
much larger island, and there civilization could

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00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:39.880
have developed ahead, although it would
not be beyond the columns of Hercules,

412
00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:46.760
as the time and the platoon critia
say. But it would be a possibility

413
00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:52.599
you investigated about Santorini and Michael'
s athletics. Yes, there in Santorini,

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00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:57.039
Well, the best known is the
city of Acrotiri, which is very

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00:34:57.079 --> 00:35:01.960
visited. Then the top of the
island for the theme of the chapter of

416
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:09.840
angular folio stones, is also a
rather interesting site. But above all good

417
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:16.239
demands me in the field of Acrotiri, because it is true that by four

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00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:23.519
thousand years ago, the quality of
life that these people had was impressive.

419
00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:29.000
That is, when you go there
and see everything that is the SAWE system,

420
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:35.800
how they slept anti- seismic characteristics
CRV could not avoid with that explosion

421
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:42.280
that has been of the greatest that
the human being has ever lived. Imagine

422
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:45.920
no, then, it' s
true that that does draw attention to the

423
00:35:45.960 --> 00:35:50.800
extent to which they had an impressive
quality of life. And well, because

424
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:57.360
there was that catastrophic event and they
had such advanced capacity for the time.

425
00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:00.920
I don' t believe it,
I frankly put it in the book,

426
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:05.599
but because it' s one of
the theories I' ve heard most about

427
00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:07.079
people who know a lot more about
us and Alejandro, I' m sure

428
00:36:07.079 --> 00:36:12.480
you too. Yes, of course, then, but well, I personally

429
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:20.480
think that although in that whole area, yes indeed, it was a very

430
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:22.880
advanced area, but good because of
what you said, among other things,

431
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:27.400
it is true that a couple of
things coincide, but there are others that

432
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:32.079
have nothing to do with it.
I have put more in that, not

433
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:38.960
because we are Spanish, but because, really well, where we stand,

434
00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:44.960
because of what platoon says and because
of the evidence that comes out little by

435
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:52.159
little. Unfortunately, not for the
Spaniards themselves, who have always never valued

436
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:55.719
what we have and what we have
done. You have to come Americans,

437
00:36:57.039 --> 00:37:00.880
you have to come to Germans to
tell us in our house what we may

438
00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:05.679
have, especially in the area of
Doñana Park. But, well, it

439
00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:08.840
was a place called the fennel marsh, where a German university said that for

440
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:13.760
them there were the remains of Atlantis. I was in the fennel marsh.

441
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:20.000
Really good. It would be like
diving in chocolate, but it is true

442
00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:25.360
that seeing clearly what would be a
rectangular structure looks crystal clear and that is

443
00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:29.639
artificial. That is why the German
archaeologists said, then, perhaps clearly like

444
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:32.960
the marsh of Doña Ana in the
province of Huelva, in Spain. For

445
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:37.280
people who did not know it thousands
of years ago, it was not so,

446
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:40.920
but it was much more flooded and
there were many more channels and so

447
00:37:42.000 --> 00:37:49.280
on, for it could easily have
been Atlantis or the mythical tartesa that is

448
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:53.079
also spoken of in the Bible and
where it is commented how the ships of

449
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:59.760
Tarsis, for example, went to
the ancient Phoenicia and traded the whole Mediterranean.

450
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:01.000
He comments on it in the Bible. The city of Tartesos has been

451
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:06.360
searched for a thousand and has once
never been found. Tartesian treasures have been

452
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:09.119
found enough. The greatest treasure that
has been found in Spain is the treasure

453
00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:13.880
of the carambolo, which is a
Tartesian treasure. There' s no doubt

454
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:16.880
about it And besides, it'
s funny how archaeologists catalogue what' s

455
00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:21.039
tartesio. Something appears in southern Spain
that is neither Roman nor Greek. So

456
00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:27.760
they say tarte or Phoenician. For
it is true that Tartessius is Greek,

457
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:31.039
it is not Phoenician, it is
not Roman, it is not Tartesian,

458
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:34.679
yes, yes, no. And
then they' ve found themselves mostly in

459
00:38:34.679 --> 00:38:38.800
extreme, because of course they do
agree that they can also be their survivor.

460
00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:43.320
Not that, because as ruano cancho, for example, it is in

461
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:45.360
the average hour of the serene and
in extreme, near Badajoz, where I

462
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:52.039
am, since it is a place, the edaje that spectacular and it is

463
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:57.519
known that the rocks red rocks.
I think it' s not there that

464
00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:04.800
they have had to go up there
not from that area of Huelva or Cadiz,

465
00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:08.119
and it' s true that it
has those symbols, it has Egyptian

466
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:13.639
symbols that you say well, it' s a little strange that and now

467
00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:20.440
the burgundy, which is the great
discovery in gureña, because it is revealing

468
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:23.599
many things that, as you say
well, yes the good experts, because

469
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:24.840
they are placing it like the tartesososos. But there' s the big doubt.

470
00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:31.000
If the troubles were really that biblical
tarsis that I think is possible.

471
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:37.400
The academics are almost more than not. Well, they know a lot more

472
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:40.639
than I do. But, for
example, I notice a lot about the

473
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:45.199
great work of Claudio Lozano, which
we have already made, friends, and

474
00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:53.320
this great archaeologist, professional diver,
he does justly date a minergic events,

475
00:39:54.239 --> 00:40:01.199
as geologists say they would coincide with
dates that, indeed, on that date

476
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:06.400
of the peoples of the sea,
on dates when the Romans also suffered those

477
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:12.880
events and then much as three five
hundred years ago, true, indeed three

478
00:40:13.239 --> 00:40:17.679
thousand five hundred years ago. All
right, so also events make twelve zero,

479
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:21.360
that is to say clear. That' s why, for example,

480
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:25.239
on the slopes of strike, to
cover the water, you have to throw

481
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:29.519
a lot for the bottom, that
is, it doesn' t immediately cover

482
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:30.880
you as it is usually used on
all the coasts, not but it is

483
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:34.440
like a platform. And he explained
to me that it was precisely because,

484
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:39.039
as there has been so many a
tsunami thing in the end, there has

485
00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:42.840
been done as a platform and then
you are already falling. But of course,

486
00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:49.119
they have discovered many old things and
anchors, very old from millennia ago,

487
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:54.719
but of course, kilometers inside,
that is, there clearly that work

488
00:40:54.760 --> 00:41:00.559
to me seems fascinating, because although
it does not have to prove that Atlantis

489
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:06.639
was there, but it does coincide
with finding those vestiges of thousands and thousands

490
00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:10.599
of years ago and clear for that
area of kilometers inside to go to cost,

491
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:15.719
for imagine or that there was on
an island. Yes, several things,

492
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:20.159
it does seem to me like a
job to follow very closely and good

493
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:25.320
for something. James Cameron, too, takes the knowledge of Claudio Lozano and

494
00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:30.519
makes that wonderful documentary of Finder Atlantis, which, well, I haven'

495
00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:32.280
t seen it. I' d
love to see it. I haven'

496
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:37.880
t seen it, Uncle, but
many do think that the real location of

497
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:44.800
Atlantity would really be around the marsh
of Guadalquivir, which is in Huelva Alejandro

498
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:49.960
Manal Juan Hey, if it isn' t in the marsh with no eyes,

499
00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:53.559
is in Spain, because I have
still done according to an investigation that

500
00:41:53.599 --> 00:42:00.880
is the public last year by some
researchers of patriot of you, headed by

501
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:07.679
Sergio Aleu Juan, which turns out
that in an area in Cadiz they found

502
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:15.159
Juange, some rather strange submerged structures. There were Sanlúcar de Barrameda, I

503
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:21.159
remember, and Chipiona did a Juange
dive last year and found strange structures that

504
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:27.719
could be a mix between natural and
artificial structure. According to Sergio to Leo,

505
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:34.199
the researcher who led this initiative,
they found a wall of sixty-

506
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:38.239
three meters long and five meters high
and a height of two four meters wide

507
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:44.679
and a second wall that would be
at least twenty- eight meters long.

508
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:50.599
When they dived into that area of
Spain, they say it is preliminary to

509
00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:54.719
establish that these structures, in fact, would have had a working origin and

510
00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:59.639
so on. But, considering this
myth and the characteristics of what they found,

511
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:02.519
it is not a letter that could
be a vestige of Atlantis in Spain.

512
00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:07.199
Yes, there are many researchers who
have placed him there in the Gibra

513
00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:10.280
Strait area of Gibraltar, because,
moreover, like Plato' s text,

514
00:43:10.679 --> 00:43:15.880
he speaks to us of beyond the
columns of Hercules, beyond the Strait of

515
00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:20.760
Gibraltar. And right there is the
area of cad the provinces of Cadiz and

516
00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:25.079
Huelva, which also there are a
number of ancient remains and have appeared those

517
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:30.679
remains also that have to do with
Tartesian culture and many people relate Tarsis to

518
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:37.960
Atlantis. Well, it' s
a possibility and it' s curious because

519
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:38.960
in Spain in general, archaeologists don' t do it at all. This,

520
00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:44.599
I mean, has to come from
German archaeologists or Mira. A few

521
00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:49.440
months ago we interviewed Miguel Blanco and
there are pyramids in Spain that are those

522
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:53.519
of Huima, and Spanish archaeologists always
discarded them. While Torallarda arrived he was

523
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:58.199
one of the best archaeologists in the
world and said no, i e 100

524
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:01.239
% sure are artificial. This is
not that the peasants have thrown stones here,

525
00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:07.360
because the stones are topped giving shape
to the step pyramid. I mean.

526
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:12.239
It' s not like that and
it' s good and it'

527
00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:13.440
s a private park, not even
public. I mean, they' re

528
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:17.039
very embarrassing and very unfortunate things about
the country in which you were born.

529
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:22.719
But anyway in the movie. Hey, Miguel, I don' t want

530
00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:23.639
to finish this block without asking you
about a place I haven' t been.

531
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:29.760
But I would love someone who links
him to Atlantis or who relates him

532
00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:34.239
directly more to that mother culture of
humanity, which appeared at the same time

533
00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:37.719
in different places thousands of years ago. And it is the island of Malta,

534
00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:44.599
because the island of Malta has a
thousand and one mysteries and a hypogee

535
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:49.360
of hal Safieni if I remember correctly
that it is five zero years old.

536
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:52.880
What can you tell us about the
mysteries of Easter Island and whether or not

537
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:59.880
you see it in relation to Atlantis? There, in Malta, Here it

538
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:04.840
returns to the same thing done,
although, for example, the Great Jesus

539
00:45:04.960 --> 00:45:07.480
streetd he thinks it is one of
the candidate sites, not because it is

540
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:12.719
true that apparently some temples have been
found under the sea, so it is

541
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:15.840
clear if the temples on the surface
of Malta are about five zero years old,

542
00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:21.840
of course, those that are submerged
must be more. And then those

543
00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:25.639
famous card ruths, those tracks,
car tracks, car tracks on the rocks

544
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:30.920
that they couldn' t explain or
that we don' t know how old

545
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:34.519
it is, it' s not
impossible. Moreover, it has already been

546
00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:37.519
shown that even if they call it
that, but it has nothing to do

547
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:39.960
with cars, or anything, because
there are many circulars others that do,

548
00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:42.960
but it has been seen. I, in fact, went to see one

549
00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:46.199
that actually miss the sea, and
there are many who have followed the track

550
00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:50.320
and continue on the Sea Sea Mal
and some say that until I could reach

551
00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:55.000
the Italian coasts, Sicily, then
well, I am not clear, but

552
00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:59.920
it is true that to me what
impressed me is that I, in fact,

553
00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:04.079
went with an intimate friend that for
me is the one who knows most

554
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:07.639
about ta the boards of Menorca and
the navetas and others, that is José

555
00:46:07.679 --> 00:46:14.000
Luis López, And what surprised us
is that used to seeing the megalithic sites

556
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:20.159
of Menorca. We expect something more
or less similar, because it goes to

557
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:22.559
the temples, especially, for example, those of Gillantilla, is that they

558
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:30.039
are spectacular, they are enormous,
they are from in some of a spectacular

559
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:32.880
perfection and we return again. That
giganty is that it remains as part of

560
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:37.000
a temple that was an absurd thing, big, but that' s what

561
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:40.119
I' m saying. I didn' t expect it to be so big

562
00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:45.039
and it' s a lot,
it' s a thousand years old.

563
00:46:45.079 --> 00:46:46.360
Also yes, in fact, the
oldest is that there is, curiously,

564
00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:52.400
the oldest, as always the greatest, the best done and so on and

565
00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:57.440
so forth and as the Pogeo said
well. It surprised me a lot,

566
00:46:57.440 --> 00:47:00.239
too. I was surprised that,
apparently, it' s a place that

567
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:06.559
' s like an MRI camera.
Then I read that it was practiced there.

568
00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:12.320
I think that the issue of the
one hundred and eleven megalciums that apparently

569
00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:16.519
has that, apparently it was the
scientist, has no capacity of those sound

570
00:47:19.079 --> 00:47:23.719
capabilities would affect the human body,
which is a subject that I would like

571
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:30.280
to one day if I have time, to put the subject of what the

572
00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:34.280
solfegium calls. No and I say
that I was very surprised because it is

573
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:40.440
a spectacular site, also of construction
for me, brutal under the earth and

574
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:45.480
then more suited with another of the
mysteries that I have found myself all over

575
00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:49.760
the world and especially in the most
mysterious places, which is the subject of

576
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:53.719
elongated skulls. Well, in Malta
it' s also happening I was looking

577
00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:58.239
for it right now on my cell
phone while talking to you and I wanted

578
00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:00.880
to ask you why, because we' re going to bar it for that

579
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:01.320
one that comes to people. Well, for people to come up with an

580
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:07.719
idea. Halsa Fieniy is a hypogeum, it is a very old stone temple,

581
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:12.239
five thousand years old which is also
an underground temple. This is a

582
00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:15.960
super weird thing. Then there'
s gigantia that I' ve seen these

583
00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:19.800
representations between what it would be like
to be an absurd thing. I mean,

584
00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:23.280
we' re talking about a civilization
so far ahead of its time,

585
00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:31.360
and in the hypogee of Hal Safieni, it' s where a series of

586
00:48:31.559 --> 00:48:37.599
skulls appear that have all the mystery
of the world that they want to put

587
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:38.079
you in and more because some are
elongated and then one thing is that they

588
00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:40.320
don' t have. What is
called the occipital suture or something is what

589
00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:45.800
it is called does not remember its
future occipital, that is our sagitt sagittal

590
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:52.559
crater, our skull has a series
of different bones that are united, then

591
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:55.440
clear so that the skull can grow, because here skulls that do not have

592
00:48:55.480 --> 00:49:00.960
that and can not be explained from
any photo. I mean, it was

593
00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:05.960
a genetic anomaly, it' s
a super crazy thing. What do you

594
00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:07.920
think of all this? I'
m going to have to cut you a

595
00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:09.280
titular mun, but we' re
going back in the next block, so

596
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:15.360
look. It is also curious because
that same story, when I went with

597
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:19.639
my wife and my wife, among
other things, setiologist and happened the same

598
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:25.280
thing in ica in ica, yes
clear on the other side of the world,

599
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:30.800
because still the skulls with that deformation, well, they are skulls that

600
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:36.000
the volume more or less would be
normal, less those of Paracas, that

601
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:37.920
that does not explain them and forgiveness. I had said icaa on that it

602
00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:40.840
is next door to Caracas. So
those of Paracas. It' s true

603
00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:44.800
that there' s my wife,
who' s super scientific and doesn'

604
00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:46.039
t believe according to what things.
Such told me oysters that this is a

605
00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:52.920
scratch, because one thing is that
you, from child to good baby with

606
00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:59.119
a series of tablets and so on, can go modifying the shape of the

607
00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:02.840
skull that I imagine who if you
want, who you want to look like

608
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:07.280
and it' s so important,
how important it must be when you do

609
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:09.800
that to a baby and I have
a three- year- old girl and

610
00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:12.599
I can' t think of anything
in the world. No, why not.

611
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:15.559
But of course what my wife said
is true that there are skulls that

612
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:21.880
are three or four times a normal
skull. Of course what I' m

613
00:50:22.000 --> 00:50:22.719
telling you, the number is human
cran. It' s about a thousand

614
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:30.199
eight hundred cubic centimeters and there'
s one joint that' s three thousand

615
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:32.400
two hundred. Of course you can
deform a skull, but you can'

616
00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:37.280
t make it the big double.
That' s how I say my wife

617
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:39.039
said what you can never change the
volume. You can' t expand the

618
00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:43.440
volume, so you can modify it, but the volume and then over.

619
00:50:43.599 --> 00:50:46.880
There are some who were with red
hair that also draws attention to an area

620
00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:51.719
where that could not exist if there
were no mad red perio, almost nothing,

621
00:50:51.920 --> 00:51:02.280
and we were talking about the elongated
skulls of the Safieni halb hypogeum,

622
00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:07.320
where we have elongated skulls. People
are right in ancient times to appear to

623
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:12.239
the gods, but they don'
t have occipital suture, that is,

624
00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:15.000
we don' t know how this
person' s skull grew. And this

625
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:22.719
was linking Miguel Labrador to Paracas'
skulls, which are crazy because indeed,

626
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:30.079
your biologist wives. One thing is
that I, my 800 cubic centimetres of

627
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:35.119
skull, deformed them and again that
I have twice the skull. That'

628
00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:39.639
s impossible and on top with red
hair. It' s a super absurd

629
00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:45.960
thing, as if there really was
another humanity. It' s a very

630
00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:50.840
crazy thing and this Malta thing right
in that hypogeum is also a very strange

631
00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:52.840
thing. A hypogeum that has a
look at a story. For example,

632
00:51:52.440 --> 00:51:58.159
the traditions of the island tell us
that snake priests lived there, who were

633
00:51:58.199 --> 00:52:00.639
able to heal. And other than
this, all the people who like the

634
00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:07.280
theory of reptilians, are fascinated by
the snake priests and pods. And all

635
00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:10.440
this as if the rivers were salt, yes, as if they were priests

636
00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:15.039
who could be transformed into serpents.
It is a tradition, of an oral

637
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:20.320
tradition of the island of Malta.
And besides, while he was here the

638
00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:23.320
reporter was telling us a story to
Miguel Labrador, Alejandro Bernaliam that we were

639
00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:30.360
both with an open mouth flipping,
because it turns out that once on a

640
00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:37.119
visit from a school, part of
what I will say from the hypogeum of

641
00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:38.559
hal Safieni collapsed and there were thirty
victims and a lot of strange phenomena.

642
00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:45.960
What happened, Miguel? Yes,
there was an unfortunate accident that happened as

643
00:52:46.039 --> 00:52:52.000
the school class passed, apparently with
thirty children and several teachers, as there

644
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:59.360
was a collapse and they died.
And then I was called the story that

645
00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:04.760
Mercedes Pullman told me, who is
an anthropologist who is vice president of the

646
00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:09.000
Spanish society Anthropology, to which I
belong, who impressed me that I did

647
00:53:08.719 --> 00:53:17.039
not know and was that after that
accident, a worker, an employee of

648
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:23.039
the British embassy, who made an
article Luis Jessup, because this woman at

649
00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:30.320
the time passed by and I say
a person known there on the island we

650
00:53:30.519 --> 00:53:35.079
are talking many years ago. And
so, this woman apparently wanted to enter

651
00:53:35.119 --> 00:53:40.280
the areas that, for security and
other reasons, were vetoed to the general

652
00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:49.679
public. And, well, she
comments that the guide she was going with,

653
00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:53.800
because when she commented that she wanted
to go to one of the funeral

654
00:53:53.880 --> 00:53:59.360
chambers of type, that he suddenly
kind of didn' t want to go

655
00:53:59.440 --> 00:54:01.199
in and so on and said well, you can come in. But this

656
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:06.880
is up to you under your responsibility, you to whatever you want, but

657
00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:09.320
then they say you made a lifeline, with a scarve and stuff and with

658
00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:15.440
a candle. Then she left alone. And well, what counts, then,

659
00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:22.719
is that suddenly in that Cavity,
because there are several creatures of a

660
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:29.840
huge size, in a humanoid form
and that were covered with hair from the

661
00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:35.679
head to the feet. Imagine,
that is, the surprise that she had

662
00:54:35.760 --> 00:54:42.400
the fear and besides that just at
that moment a gust of wind extinguishes her

663
00:54:42.440 --> 00:54:45.280
candle, I mean that she puts
her hair on the edge and on top

664
00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:50.559
of me. She literally says that
at that moment she felt something wet and

665
00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:54.159
slippery brushing her, that is,
of course, she starts screaming, starts

666
00:54:54.199 --> 00:54:59.119
screaming and the friends who were out, of course, went, went for

667
00:54:59.239 --> 00:55:02.960
it ran the good, because I
imagine that is a scare that she never

668
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:09.880
forgets. But there' s another
thing that' s more than she'

669
00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:12.519
s coming back to time. When
the shock comes a little, she comes

670
00:55:13.159 --> 00:55:17.760
back because she needs answers, she
wants to ask things, she wants to

671
00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:22.719
ask the guide that touches her on
that day, because she comments on the

672
00:55:22.719 --> 00:55:27.239
guide that allowed her to enter there
because in theory, it could not have

673
00:55:27.800 --> 00:55:30.519
been done and she gave the description
of that person, since she of the

674
00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:34.239
guide, because apparently she did not
work. It didn' t exist,

675
00:55:35.320 --> 00:55:40.679
it didn' t exist, so
I have a story. Curious and good

676
00:55:40.719 --> 00:55:46.000
that gives enough respect, it was
not scary enough, is that it is

677
00:55:46.119 --> 00:55:51.639
a place full of mystery and legend, because there are no written texts that

678
00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:55.599
tell us neither what kind of rituals
or what happened. There it simply remains

679
00:55:55.639 --> 00:56:00.039
in the oral tradition of the island
of snake priests, which I do not

680
00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:05.599
find at least curious that this lady
says that what she felt was a repaired

681
00:56:05.679 --> 00:56:07.280
thing and a thing like a snake. But it' s so crazy.

682
00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:12.320
Alejandro Bernal, I think I wanted
to comment on something Juan that I find

683
00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:15.960
fascinating that when I talk to you
about Atlantis look at yourself, as we

684
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:20.599
have done almost that a tour of
the globe we started in Tiaguanaco, here

685
00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:24.480
in Bolivia, in South America,
then we went to Spain, marsh of

686
00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:30.079
the Hinojos, then Cadiz, passing
through the island of Santorini, also in

687
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:30.920
Europe, then we are talking about
the island of Malta. But what if

688
00:56:31.000 --> 00:56:36.239
I told you that there are a
number of researchers who say that Atlantis was

689
00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:42.599
in Japan, in something that is
known as Johnaguni and is a fairly interesting

690
00:56:42.679 --> 00:56:49.880
story. Joarge because in nineteen hundred
and eighty- seven, a professional bus

691
00:56:50.039 --> 00:56:54.159
that Chajiro Aracate. It turns out
that this man liked to dive in various

692
00:56:55.280 --> 00:57:01.760
areas and decided to make one in
that year in Okinawa, and was really

693
00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:10.519
surprised when he observed some rather particular
structures a few meters below the sea,

694
00:57:10.840 --> 00:57:21.000
structures similar to safets, pyramid-
like structures and some stones that seemed carved

695
00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:24.360
under the ocean in that area of
Japan. It turns out that the University

696
00:57:24.440 --> 00:57:31.159
of Ruku was a person of the
research and a number of professors and also

697
00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:37.400
anthropologists have been carrying out research on
it and at this moment, the hypothesis

698
00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:45.639
that has circulated through the media and
also from various academic institutions is that,

699
00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:51.159
in this case, Johnagoni would have
a natural origin, but that these stones

700
00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:57.679
would have been carved by artisans or
builders, something that I find fascinating.

701
00:57:57.719 --> 00:58:00.280
Juan Gabe. In fact, I' m going to share images with you

702
00:58:00.280 --> 00:58:04.000
through my twitter. Rage to lebernate
three kles to realize the impressive that is

703
00:58:04.119 --> 00:58:09.039
Johnaguni. In one thousand nine hundred
and ninety- eight a great earthquake occurred

704
00:58:09.079 --> 00:58:12.599
in this part of Japan and in
Okinawa. Well, in Japan it always

705
00:58:12.679 --> 00:58:15.880
trembles is one of the most indica
areas in the world. A great juange

706
00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:22.679
earthquake and structures very similar to the
sigurats of Iraq appeared. Deep down,

707
00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:29.360
in that part of the sea,
in Okinagn Japan, I reiterate one of

708
00:58:29.360 --> 00:58:32.519
the possible places of Atlantis, in
this case, in the East Thuvee.

709
00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:37.159
But look, I think that there, more than Atlantis and as the podcast

710
00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:43.960
is called, disappeared civilization, we
would have to talk about Moon or Lemuria.

711
00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:49.480
And it' s just that,
like we' re talking about Atlantis

712
00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:52.079
and Hyperborea would be something else,
that other world that the Nazis were looking

713
00:58:52.119 --> 00:58:55.639
for, the one that was north
of the Atlantic Ocean. It is still

714
00:58:55.679 --> 00:59:05.880
curious that a theologian named Phillip LUBICG
Strapper in the 19th century, in particular,

715
00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:09.360
said that for lemurs on the island
of Madagascar to see lemurs in India,

716
00:59:09.599 --> 00:59:15.800
lemurs are monkeys with a very long
tail. The only way that this

717
00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:22.400
species was in those two places is
that there was a large middle continent or

718
00:59:22.519 --> 00:59:27.119
an island in the middle that would
have been used as a bridge by this

719
00:59:27.239 --> 00:59:32.360
kind of primates. And then this
whole thing started diving in history. Johnagunni

720
00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:37.159
' s is spectacular because what Alejandro
says and you can see the photos on

721
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:42.000
his twitter is good because the best
part of the platforms burn is natural but

722
00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:47.039
there are stairs carved between one part
and the other so that it can be

723
00:59:47.079 --> 00:59:52.000
uploaded and there are footage of that. And that' s totally and absolutely

724
00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:58.119
artificial. And there is something very
curious also, and it is that in

725
00:59:58.280 --> 01:00:04.559
India there is a series of legends
that tell us about Kumari Kandam Kumari Kandan,

726
01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:12.000
which would be a great island that
opened between Sri Lanka and southern India.

727
01:00:12.599 --> 01:00:15.360
And with this now I saw you
relate this to Easter Island. But

728
01:00:15.400 --> 01:00:22.159
first he wants to speak Miguel Verdad, Yes, there what you are commenting

729
01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:25.800
John Auri Claudio Lozano, of the
archaeologist with whom I also count in the

730
01:00:25.800 --> 01:00:30.679
book, is already the one who
is specialist in the area of the park

731
01:00:30.679 --> 01:00:34.280
of Doñana de Vuelva. In addition
to the warranty, he was there,

732
01:00:34.840 --> 01:00:37.679
as I say, professional diver.
I was about to go, but nothing.

733
01:00:38.199 --> 01:00:45.960
You can' t leave the main
island of Statokio and so on,

734
01:00:45.159 --> 01:00:46.599
and it' s a place I' ve got pending. But, for

735
01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:51.920
example, I also ask viewers to
look at the naga complex called Naga.

736
01:00:53.239 --> 01:01:00.360
There' s a series of monoliths
there that are the least suspicious, very

737
01:01:00.360 --> 01:01:07.039
suspicious, and besides, archaeologists don' t know what kind of time we

738
01:01:07.039 --> 01:01:08.920
' re talking about. They don' t know that kind of jobs,

739
01:01:09.199 --> 01:01:16.360
where they come from. And then, what I always say I understand many

740
01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:22.599
times that archaeology, because it is
very difficult to change paradigms, because I

741
01:01:22.679 --> 01:01:25.840
don' t know if it comments
on the previous program, but I say

742
01:01:25.880 --> 01:01:29.400
it quickly I say that, especially
to me what I like the most is

743
01:01:29.440 --> 01:01:34.119
the topic of poriangular stones, that
one day, when you want so we

744
01:01:34.119 --> 01:01:37.639
can touch it. I remember that
when I go to the palace to see

745
01:01:37.679 --> 01:01:43.159
the Imperial Palace, he takes it
out, well, because I inform myself,

746
01:01:43.440 --> 01:01:46.320
as I do in all my travels, even if this one was not

747
01:01:46.400 --> 01:01:49.440
eminently archaeological, taking away the area
of Naga. Well, I see it

748
01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:54.760
' s a 16th- century imperial
temple, the Emperor, hero, etcetera.

749
01:01:55.199 --> 01:02:00.239
And I remember that it was my
wife who doesn' t know the

750
01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:04.280
story just so she' s super
scientific and so she was the one who

751
01:02:04.360 --> 01:02:08.519
told me hey, Miguel, at
the base of this palace it' s

752
01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:14.199
not the stones these porriangulars that you
always talk and that we' ve visited

753
01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:15.880
in so many places, and I
said it can' t be because this

754
01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:16.880
is a reconstruction. These since the
17th century and so on. Well,

755
01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:21.760
then, fixed the face of a
fool who wouldn' t stay that I

756
01:02:21.800 --> 01:02:25.079
am the heterodox and, in theory, the specialist in priera foliangulares. When

757
01:02:25.199 --> 01:02:30.400
the months of coming from Japan,
I find an article from the University of

758
01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:37.920
Tokyo in which they recognize that the
Imperial Palace is built on a megalithic temple

759
01:02:38.079 --> 01:02:45.400
of an unknown millennial age and that
they do not know by whom it is.

760
01:02:45.280 --> 01:02:47.920
That' s why I always say
that if it happens to me that

761
01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:52.480
I am the heterodox and above in
theory a specialist in polyangular stones, how

762
01:02:52.480 --> 01:02:59.519
is it not going to happen to
someone who only, because it looks at

763
01:03:00.199 --> 01:03:01.440
the official issues, that it is
very difficult that I understand it, because

764
01:03:01.719 --> 01:03:05.079
it has happened to me then.
But I already say in Japan, apart

765
01:03:05.159 --> 01:03:09.679
from Johnagunni Naga, for example,
it is a place that seems spectacular to

766
01:03:09.679 --> 01:03:14.840
me, very unknown, but that
has jobs that have nothing to do with

767
01:03:14.920 --> 01:03:17.840
Japanese history, much less, and
that is thousands of years too, and

768
01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:22.039
there would remain a reminiscence of that
Lemuria muho on Easter Island, from my

769
01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:25.760
point of view, which is the
most isolated place in the world, three

770
01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:31.440
hundred kilometers from the American coast,
two thousand three hundred kilometers from the Marquesas

771
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:37.159
Islands, the most isolated point in
the world on the planet and where two

772
01:03:37.199 --> 01:03:42.519
completely different cultures lived, where they
left stone statues that look at the sky

773
01:03:42.599 --> 01:03:47.280
that are called Moai with a lot
of mysteries since you were those statues are

774
01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:52.719
of pumice stone and, instead of
making a cylinder of stone, move it

775
01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:58.519
and then carve it in the altars
where the aus were put, they carved

776
01:03:58.519 --> 01:04:01.800
them already in shape, but in
the quarry and move them and the stones

777
01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:05.079
have no scratches, when I repeat, they are of pumice stone and only

778
01:04:05.079 --> 01:04:13.599
with strips. And besides, where
there was a writing that is as they

779
01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:17.320
call the ancient pascuenses qa rongo rongo
smoke. The wood that speaks and that

780
01:04:17.360 --> 01:04:24.079
writing is very similar to another scripture
that has never been translated, which is

781
01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:27.880
the one that we appear in the
fucking Jarapa, in Pakistan, in those

782
01:04:27.920 --> 01:04:33.840
two cities that are five 500 years
old. Easter is crazy and that would

783
01:04:34.039 --> 01:04:41.320
also put us on the table that
there really was that big island called Moo.

784
01:04:42.119 --> 01:04:44.960
It is curious the legends of Easter, what you say that King Hottomatua

785
01:04:45.079 --> 01:04:49.199
arrived on the island and that he
came from a great island that sank,

786
01:04:49.719 --> 01:04:57.519
which they called Hiva, that is, in the legends there are a series

787
01:04:57.639 --> 01:05:01.880
of facts and events that are very
clear. You want to plead something.

788
01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:08.440
Alejamiel did. There is also one
thing I learned there, not because in

789
01:05:09.440 --> 01:05:13.400
my old lady to Easter Island,
I coincided with the flight from Santiago,

790
01:05:13.840 --> 01:05:18.320
Chile to Easter with a Chilean archeologist. And, well, obviously we got

791
01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:21.880
them talking and so forth. And
what I didn' t know is that,

792
01:05:21.960 --> 01:05:29.679
as you were saying, they'
re volcanic rock and they' re

793
01:05:29.880 --> 01:05:32.880
relatively, relatively easy to work with. But of course, what I didn

794
01:05:32.960 --> 01:05:36.320
' t know was that there was
also a couple of them at basalt.

795
01:05:38.519 --> 01:05:42.519
Sure, what' s the problem
with the tallest year. In fact,

796
01:05:42.719 --> 01:05:45.920
I' ll take pictures of you
there, one that, for example,

797
01:05:46.360 --> 01:05:51.119
thanks to her I discovered, because
it' s abandoned, it' s

798
01:05:51.159 --> 01:05:54.800
thrown away, but it' s
abandoned, that is, in an area

799
01:05:54.920 --> 01:05:56.440
where there' s no Rangers,
or anything, and besides, it'

800
01:05:56.440 --> 01:05:59.079
s in pieces, but it'
s basalt. Of course what is the

801
01:05:59.639 --> 01:06:05.679
problem that, like the most advanced
tools of the time, are supposedly basalt.

802
01:06:06.559 --> 01:06:12.360
You with basalt, you can work
the volcanic rock moais, but you

803
01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:19.880
can' t work with very difficult
basalt i basalt. It can' t

804
01:06:20.239 --> 01:06:27.400
be clear then. It has already
been shown that they should have more advanced

805
01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:32.760
tools, once again than they have, than is stipulated. Then I was

806
01:06:32.840 --> 01:06:40.239
surprised to see that moai thrown away
by pieces that I already say that,

807
01:06:40.400 --> 01:06:44.360
indeed, what this woman told me
I am not going to let you accompany

808
01:06:44.440 --> 01:06:47.000
and this you will like. Indeed, he left me as a stone to

809
01:06:47.119 --> 01:06:53.000
see that there was basalt. I
didn' t know what broke it,

810
01:06:53.320 --> 01:06:56.280
because it' s a hard rock. The assault is super hard, man,

811
01:06:56.840 --> 01:07:00.480
and very hard to work. The
Egyptians used to make basalt figures,

812
01:07:00.519 --> 01:07:02.840
now all the ones they sell are
fake. There' s no basalt.

813
01:07:03.719 --> 01:07:05.639
Of course, yes, it'
s very false. Yeah, yeah,

814
01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:10.880
there' s nothing basalt, it' s super hard and very hard to

815
01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:13.519
work. It' s amazing.
Not four thousand years ago or five thousand

816
01:07:13.559 --> 01:07:15.679
years ago they made basalt figures and
now that they sell you they' re

817
01:07:15.679 --> 01:07:18.599
fake. No one works basalt in
Egypt. Yeah, yeah, exactly complicated

818
01:07:18.719 --> 01:07:23.639
these days. It' s really
crazy. Alejandro Bernal wanted to comment.

819
01:07:24.519 --> 01:07:29.400
Juan g To me it has always
seemed fascinating, not only the finds of

820
01:07:29.440 --> 01:07:32.000
Easter Island. What you lived,
look at what Miguel told us, I

821
01:07:32.039 --> 01:07:36.320
did not know that there were mujais
of basalt and that I too have been

822
01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:45.119
hallucinated, because precisely this possibility poses
what technology they had used to build these

823
01:07:45.239 --> 01:07:48.119
moais of basalt. Juan, which
is something impressive, I or made fascinating,

824
01:07:48.239 --> 01:07:51.320
had never heard of it. I
was on the island, no one

825
01:07:51.400 --> 01:07:57.400
told me anything, but well it
will be my turn to return to Easter

826
01:07:57.480 --> 01:08:02.039
Island to look for that moa and
basalt that yes, that I had absolutely

827
01:08:02.119 --> 01:08:08.840
no idea and Easter Island what would
give us clues or proofs is basically from

828
01:08:08.920 --> 01:08:13.960
that famous, that famous land of
Moo or Lemuria. Lemuria is the name

829
01:08:13.960 --> 01:08:16.720
given to it in the 19th century, in Antiquity. Well, what has

830
01:08:16.720 --> 01:08:20.520
been said to Kumari Kantan also for
the Hindus, that is, when different

831
01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:26.439
legends and stories appear, the passers- by called him Jiva who tell us

832
01:08:26.439 --> 01:08:31.479
about the same thing when the river
sounds water carries for me is not free

833
01:08:31.560 --> 01:08:35.760
at all. Another of the places
you mention in you, another of the

834
01:08:35.880 --> 01:08:43.600
submerged islands or of the lost civilizations, would be Poseidonia, since there are

835
01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:46.039
texts that Romans who tell us that
there was an island to the south of

836
01:08:46.079 --> 01:08:55.319
the Italic Peninsula, where there were
some lavish temples and in the middle of

837
01:08:55.399 --> 01:09:00.119
that island a great temple to the
god possession. This can be confused with

838
01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:03.520
the lántida and it can be a
confusion in history, in the world of

839
01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:11.560
legend Miguel, but Mira is that
I don' t want to get over

840
01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:14.960
the subject. I can tell an
anecdote about Easter. Of course I want

841
01:09:14.960 --> 01:09:18.359
to, because now I have remembered
one thing that happened to me that I

842
01:09:18.439 --> 01:09:23.319
think will interest you, because when
I was on Anaquena beach I know Jorge,

843
01:09:23.720 --> 01:09:30.399
beautiful spectacular, that has several moais. Yeah, well, I think

844
01:09:30.439 --> 01:09:33.760
they were no and then, from
behind another and I remember there' s

845
01:09:33.800 --> 01:09:36.399
an area already at the end of
everything, that there' s a lot

846
01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:41.560
of sand still on the beach.
And I remember that, well, then,

847
01:09:41.600 --> 01:09:45.239
whatever motive it was, it didn' t get close to that sand

848
01:09:45.239 --> 01:09:48.239
zone. And I' m more
of a follower of the rules, so,

849
01:09:48.439 --> 01:09:50.960
well, I didn' t go
into that area. But my wife,

850
01:09:51.079 --> 01:09:56.199
because she always passed a little bit
of the rules and she, well,

851
01:09:56.520 --> 01:10:00.720
to take pictures of the Moha Almohay
who was behind her, she did

852
01:10:00.840 --> 01:10:03.119
decide to get a little bit into
the sand thinking that nothing was going on.

853
01:10:04.760 --> 01:10:09.119
Well, there' s the Rangers. I' m not going to

854
01:10:09.199 --> 01:10:12.720
do the name of Moscas for saying
my name after he told me what he

855
01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:15.880
said to me, not the truth
that he' s made a tremendous joke

856
01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:19.199
on us. He went after my
wife, but like with the whistle or

857
01:10:19.560 --> 01:10:21.760
I' m going to report you, I' m going to call the

858
01:10:21.760 --> 01:10:25.600
police. I don' t know
what doesn' t and although it'

859
01:10:25.640 --> 01:10:28.199
s true that something already, there
came a time when I got angry because

860
01:10:28.239 --> 01:10:30.800
it seemed too much to me,
but at first I did leave it because

861
01:10:30.840 --> 01:10:32.960
I said good to see if my
wife finds out that if she doesn'

862
01:10:32.960 --> 01:10:34.920
t get through I hear it doesn' t happen. Well, after the

863
01:10:34.920 --> 01:10:38.680
first apologies I already say. Then
I think the men went a little too

864
01:10:38.680 --> 01:10:42.399
far. Yeah, well, I' m already a little involved, no,

865
01:10:42.840 --> 01:10:45.960
but then look at you talking and
so on, hey Look, I

866
01:10:45.960 --> 01:10:48.720
said if I' m going,
I' m a member of the Spanish

867
01:10:48.720 --> 01:10:48.720
socity atropology, if I' m
doing a study, I don' t

868
01:10:48.720 --> 01:10:54.399
know what. Well, in the
end we ended up half friends, no,

869
01:10:54.600 --> 01:10:58.439
and when we already took trust.
Of course I made a little observation

870
01:10:58.520 --> 01:11:00.479
that he told me, so look, I' m going to give you

871
01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:02.199
and why. Because I said to
see everywhere that you have seen it or

872
01:11:02.239 --> 01:11:08.359
jesus, everywhere there is a ranger
stand, but well, a very small

873
01:11:08.640 --> 01:11:15.159
post, without a security. This
is a super small island that there is

874
01:11:15.239 --> 01:11:18.119
no one, but well, they
have that security on them, because some

875
01:11:18.199 --> 01:11:23.359
of the cherry tree, because it
has done it climbs the man, they

876
01:11:23.359 --> 01:11:26.279
climb the mos. Oh, a
fourth ear. I don' t know

877
01:11:26.359 --> 01:11:29.960
what, which was the last thing
I heard. We have to always pay

878
01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:32.760
just for sin the, but I
did give myself What caught my attention is

879
01:11:32.800 --> 01:11:38.720
that there were several Rangers there and
a rather prepared car and so on I

880
01:11:38.720 --> 01:11:41.319
said good, because here it is
clear that you are more aware with another

881
01:11:41.319 --> 01:11:43.680
place. Look, look, I' m gonna ask you something, since

882
01:11:43.720 --> 01:11:47.039
you' re an investigator. You
told me you saw the car. I

883
01:11:47.079 --> 01:11:49.880
looked deeper. I made myself you
see that device, but the truth is

884
01:11:49.880 --> 01:11:53.880
that a very rare device. He
says look, that' s an infrared

885
01:11:53.920 --> 01:12:00.000
theme and so on, and night
camera and he says that car doesn'

886
01:12:00.119 --> 01:12:03.079
t always move looking over here well, especially to the sand and he says

887
01:12:03.159 --> 01:12:11.439
look at me, the only thing
I can tell you that here once it

888
01:12:11.479 --> 01:12:14.359
was excavated because well, it'
s true that, as you know,

889
01:12:14.880 --> 01:12:16.640
there was a tidal wave that took
the moais back and it says well,

890
01:12:17.159 --> 01:12:19.479
because the time afterwards a excavation was
done. I don' t know what

891
01:12:19.560 --> 01:12:25.039
something was seen, something was discovered, it was covered up and since then

892
01:12:25.119 --> 01:12:29.199
the most guarded place in the whole
island where there are more moais, a

893
01:12:29.239 --> 01:12:34.720
place to see, more prepared and
this car that is worth a pasta because

894
01:12:34.720 --> 01:12:38.279
you can' t, you can' t step on, you can'

895
01:12:38.279 --> 01:12:42.760
t see, you can' t
touch, you can' t dig,

896
01:12:43.760 --> 01:12:48.600
and we have orders to be constantly
watching that piece of sand where it puts

897
01:12:48.680 --> 01:12:50.359
forbidden past what crazy I ask for
and they haven' t given any indication

898
01:12:50.359 --> 01:12:53.199
of what sheath and there they didn' t excavate. You can' t

899
01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:58.399
see they dug. Years ago they
dug you up and covered it up again

900
01:12:58.479 --> 01:13:01.439
and that place better guarded all over
the island and already here I guided it.

901
01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:04.640
But what is it told me,
I have no idea. I swear

902
01:13:04.720 --> 01:13:09.760
to you, Miguel, you have
to get the watchman drunk, take us

903
01:13:09.960 --> 01:13:15.720
a shovel or, of course,
but the amount was something, it was

904
01:13:15.800 --> 01:13:19.079
big, so because it was a
piece that I really didn' t notice

905
01:13:19.079 --> 01:13:24.279
in the beginning, yes, that
it was ahead of the MOAI, that

906
01:13:24.399 --> 01:13:26.279
had been displaced by that tsunami that
happened. I think in the 1960s or

907
01:13:26.399 --> 01:13:30.079
1960s, but I didn' t
give it much importance either. And,

908
01:13:30.319 --> 01:13:32.439
well, for some reason, I
don' t know, but it'

909
01:13:32.479 --> 01:13:36.319
s true that I didn' t
notice and of course my wife, less

910
01:13:36.319 --> 01:13:39.319
importance was given to her when she
got in. But I' m telling

911
01:13:39.399 --> 01:13:42.720
you the outrage that threw us out
and that the man threatened to call the

912
01:13:42.760 --> 01:13:45.359
police and so on and then I
understood why not, because it' s

913
01:13:45.439 --> 01:13:51.399
clearly the most enimatic place in the
whole island that' s hidden there under

914
01:13:51.399 --> 01:13:56.680
that sand. Here, then,
hopefully, someday archaeologists can dig that up

915
01:13:56.720 --> 01:14:00.279
and bring it out to public light. I loved it, it fascinated me.

916
01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:05.760
In addition, I was able to
interview the world Edward, who is

917
01:14:05.880 --> 01:14:13.239
the anthropologist who drew a relationship between
different fumes and how they related on the

918
01:14:13.359 --> 01:14:17.520
island map to different constellations. Then
he made a very interesting article about that,

919
01:14:17.560 --> 01:14:23.479
a very important scientific study about that
and about the knowledge of the stars

920
01:14:24.039 --> 01:14:27.760
that were on Easter Island, something
that no one had ever done and that

921
01:14:27.880 --> 01:14:32.560
is unique Remind me write me crazy
about Whatsapp that he passed me the article.

922
01:14:33.079 --> 01:14:40.840
He had a good time, long
time, but I' m looking

923
01:14:40.920 --> 01:14:44.039
for him and I' ve got
him, I' m sure, I

924
01:14:44.039 --> 01:14:45.479
' m looking for him and I' ll pass him to you. And

925
01:14:45.520 --> 01:14:49.119
the truth is that' s not
Easter. It speaks to me not only

926
01:14:49.239 --> 01:14:53.880
of a world that disappeared that in
Lemuria, but of a magical world where

927
01:14:55.039 --> 01:15:00.680
there is a technology that still puts
us against one side. String, for

928
01:15:00.680 --> 01:15:04.039
example, when Miguel Labrador now told
about the subject of the eastern basalt moai

929
01:15:04.319 --> 01:15:09.319
and it was something he had no
idea about. Also wooden moa, moaica

930
01:15:09.439 --> 01:15:13.960
cowed. I don' t know
if you knew that much smaller. And

931
01:15:13.960 --> 01:15:16.880
so and so, it' s
an island where two different signs lived that

932
01:15:16.880 --> 01:15:21.079
ended up killing each other, human
beings. You know that we are not

933
01:15:21.079 --> 01:15:31.760
very, we are not very much
for sharing things today going through a lot

934
01:15:31.880 --> 01:15:35.159
of lost worlds, but that they
left us a legacy that is tangible,

935
01:15:35.560 --> 01:15:39.279
that you can see, that is
there, that is palpable. A legacy

936
01:15:39.279 --> 01:15:45.840
full of mystery. And when we
were in the first block that we were

937
01:15:45.840 --> 01:15:49.000
talking about Easter Island and Lemoria,
I asked Miguel Labrador about the issue of

938
01:15:49.119 --> 01:15:54.159
the island of Poseidonia, that I
don' t know to what extent it

939
01:15:54.199 --> 01:15:57.680
is a myth, a reality in
the Roman world and that, perhaps it

940
01:15:57.720 --> 01:16:00.920
was confused with Atlantis. I'
m not sure. Island that was to

941
01:16:00.960 --> 01:16:04.359
the south of the Italic Peninsula,
where I commented before that there was in

942
01:16:04.520 --> 01:16:11.079
the center a great temple in honor
of the God possessed you How you see

943
01:16:11.560 --> 01:16:15.600
the story of Poseidonia, Michael,
Well, there Posidonia, Well, that

944
01:16:15.680 --> 01:16:19.079
was called by the Romans paestum No, because, as you well say,

945
01:16:19.479 --> 01:16:23.399
it was to the south of Italy, very close to Naples. And it

946
01:16:23.439 --> 01:16:26.680
is true that good, as the
name says, for it would be closely

947
01:16:26.720 --> 01:16:30.199
related to the name of the god
Posidon, the God of the seas and

948
01:16:30.279 --> 01:16:35.399
oceans, who would later be known
more by Neptune. And there, well,

949
01:16:35.439 --> 01:16:40.840
it is known that they were the
Sibarites, the natives of Sibaris,

950
01:16:41.359 --> 01:16:45.199
the ancient Calabria, who were the
first to arrive, but always after that

951
01:16:45.199 --> 01:16:51.560
enigmatic village that was there. And, well, the truth is, even

952
01:16:51.760 --> 01:16:57.039
though I insist, I' ve
put all these places in the book.

953
01:16:57.119 --> 01:17:02.920
But I don' t think it' s like Atlantis either. I think

954
01:17:02.920 --> 01:17:06.800
he doesn' t have that much
evidence, but, well, he would

955
01:17:06.800 --> 01:17:13.279
agree in some respects with what Plato
said, because he was inhabited long before

956
01:17:13.279 --> 01:17:19.279
the Greeks. There has also been
talk of a golden age that is practically

957
01:17:19.279 --> 01:17:23.920
forgotten and I say, as the
people are not known, that it has

958
01:17:23.920 --> 01:17:27.760
been inhabited even by the Greeks themselves, because it has this halo of mystery.

959
01:17:28.079 --> 01:17:31.680
But, yes, apparently what you
said has been found huge columns and

960
01:17:31.720 --> 01:17:39.000
walls that surrounded the main temples just
half of the whole island, which is

961
01:17:39.000 --> 01:17:42.760
a little bit Plato' s description, also of Atlantis And of course,

962
01:17:44.079 --> 01:17:48.399
being so close to the Vesuvio of
Elenna, for it is not surprising that

963
01:17:48.439 --> 01:17:53.399
there also happened the same thing as
in Santorini, that the volcano that knows

964
01:17:53.640 --> 01:17:58.760
that it has had a lot of
lutions, since it would not be so

965
01:17:58.840 --> 01:18:03.800
well strange, obviously, that there
was a very advanced civilization there and that

966
01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:08.119
it was destroyed by the Volcano itself. I mean, well, yeah,

967
01:18:08.159 --> 01:18:11.960
it has several coincidences, but we' re back to the same thing.

968
01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:15.119
I think that what said platoon beyond
the columns of the ass is in the

969
01:18:15.159 --> 01:18:20.399
end good, because we have to
look beyond, at least in the Atlantic,

970
01:18:20.560 --> 01:18:25.520
that the word itself goes forward,
because it also tells you no.

971
01:18:25.800 --> 01:18:29.600
But Idonia, on the other hand, knows whether or not that part of

972
01:18:29.680 --> 01:18:36.600
that mother civilization could indeed exist in
the peoples of the Mediterranean. And now

973
01:18:36.680 --> 01:18:43.439
let' s start with what would
be the remains in our culture, what

974
01:18:43.479 --> 01:18:49.239
that previous mother culture is. And
I think there' s nothing clearer,

975
01:18:49.600 --> 01:18:55.840
unlike the famous universal flood, because
it' s in the Old Testament,

976
01:18:56.359 --> 01:18:59.640
it' s in the Bible.
We think it' s a Christian issue.

977
01:19:00.119 --> 01:19:03.640
It goes Jewish, since the Old
Testament is Jewish, but far from

978
01:19:03.680 --> 01:19:10.439
it. There are two hundred different
cultures and the first time it appears is

979
01:19:10.479 --> 01:19:15.880
in the ancient Sumerian texts. When
they tell us about the poem of gilgames

980
01:19:15.880 --> 01:19:21.199
in particular, here he would not
be you a pishing Miguel Angel Labrador,

981
01:19:21.319 --> 01:19:26.720
how was your research on the flood
more than two hundred different cultures. Indeed,

982
01:19:26.720 --> 01:19:30.880
that surprised me, because I always
comment on it. What happened to

983
01:19:30.920 --> 01:19:34.039
me is that you said it perfectly, because of course I know about the

984
01:19:34.119 --> 01:19:39.520
flood, because you know it from
religious classes and so on, and you

985
01:19:39.520 --> 01:19:43.479
always think that a religious myth is
good and that there is nothing else behind

986
01:19:43.479 --> 01:19:47.720
it. And of course, it' s funny because when you actually know

987
01:19:47.800 --> 01:19:55.880
that the Bible absorbs from those Sumerian
stories that would be five zero years old,

988
01:19:56.640 --> 01:19:59.159
of course, there you start to
think there' s something else.

989
01:19:59.319 --> 01:20:03.760
And then what I did at the
same time surprised me, is when I

990
01:20:04.840 --> 01:20:10.199
know the popol boo not what would
be the sacred Bible of the Mayans of

991
01:20:10.279 --> 01:20:15.520
the preclassic period that I already say
had always been said until just fifteen years

992
01:20:15.560 --> 01:20:19.319
ago that the powder was so similar
to the Bible that it had always been

993
01:20:19.840 --> 01:20:26.039
said that it was simply because the
Spaniards, upon their arrival, well,

994
01:20:26.239 --> 01:20:30.159
obviously manipulated the popolb so that it
was so similar. When you discover a

995
01:20:30.199 --> 01:20:34.159
site, also wonderful that I could
visit, that is the pyramid of the

996
01:20:34.479 --> 01:20:41.920
viewpoint, the pyramid of the so
much in the viewpoint that would have the

997
01:20:41.960 --> 01:20:45.119
frieze where the populbus appears, of
course it is from the Mayan preclassic,

998
01:20:45.119 --> 01:20:47.800
with which we are. We were
leaving 200 years ago, so it was

999
01:20:47.840 --> 01:20:54.520
impossible for the Spaniards to do anything
then. Sure. That surprises me.

1000
01:20:54.720 --> 01:20:57.600
And when I do the research for
the book, that' s when I

1001
01:20:58.680 --> 01:21:05.039
realize it, because we always have
two hundred or so very similar stories around

1002
01:21:05.119 --> 01:21:12.319
the globe. I do always say
so too that about seventy. Yes,

1003
01:21:13.560 --> 01:21:19.079
because of proximity to space time,
it would be very plausible that those cultures

1004
01:21:19.079 --> 01:21:24.520
that were stuck yes, that they
knew them by direct transmission. No,

1005
01:21:25.000 --> 01:21:29.760
but we have one hundred and thirty, more than one hundred and thirty that

1006
01:21:29.760 --> 01:21:31.720
could not be known. Not me, for example, because I have the

1007
01:21:31.840 --> 01:21:38.439
Masais. The Masais have a story
not that humans and a golden age became

1008
01:21:38.600 --> 01:21:44.479
more corrupt. No, and that' s why God wanted to destroy them.

1009
01:21:44.520 --> 01:21:47.640
No. Then we have good,
for in the north of America,

1010
01:21:47.920 --> 01:21:53.079
for the Eskimos, not the people
of Sinuit, for there was a great

1011
01:21:53.279 --> 01:21:57.720
earthquake, a flood that has caused
everything in ancient Greece, for we have

1012
01:21:57.760 --> 01:22:00.760
of Eucalion, the son of promise
No, who was saved with his wife

1013
01:22:00.840 --> 01:22:05.359
from the flood caused by Zeus in
Rome. It' s Jupiter, who

1014
01:22:05.359 --> 01:22:11.000
sends the flood with Neptune' s
help. And then we have that Nordic

1015
01:22:11.000 --> 01:22:15.760
mythology, Polynesian Celtics. The Indian
Easter Isolation is a question. I didn

1016
01:22:15.760 --> 01:22:17.319
' t, I was in Tikal, I didn' t get to the

1017
01:22:17.319 --> 01:22:21.640
lookout. I don' t know
if it' s still as complex as

1018
01:22:21.720 --> 01:22:25.760
it was 20 years ago, that
you have to go on mule and it

1019
01:22:25.760 --> 01:22:28.079
' s like five days not going
and going back. So it' s

1020
01:22:28.159 --> 01:22:33.479
a heavy heavy expedition, so it' s your turn to make tremendous heat

1021
01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:38.960
with a dampness. The cool thing
is that you do it through an authentic

1022
01:22:39.119 --> 01:22:45.800
Mayan path of the preclassical era.
And it' s amazing, because besides,

1023
01:22:46.039 --> 01:22:50.800
the type of trees is I don' t know what trees they were,

1024
01:22:51.199 --> 01:22:55.000
but they' re from these trees
that measure fifty to sixty meters and

1025
01:22:55.000 --> 01:22:58.279
notice. It is known that conquerors. I think it was Ancortes who passed

1026
01:22:58.319 --> 01:23:02.520
by and passed by. He did
not realize, that is, he did

1027
01:23:02.560 --> 01:23:05.399
not get to know the attendance of
that city. So it' s amazing

1028
01:23:05.680 --> 01:23:10.560
already at that time there was all
food in the jungle and it' s

1029
01:23:10.600 --> 01:23:14.319
true that it' s already getting
hard. In addition, it is forced

1030
01:23:14.399 --> 01:23:19.359
for the group that goes, it
is forced to lead to antiophic, because

1031
01:23:19.439 --> 01:23:23.680
the odds that can give you a
next snake. I, for example,

1032
01:23:23.760 --> 01:23:30.239
did find a good element, a
good black scorpion near the shop, where

1033
01:23:30.239 --> 01:23:34.720
I was very close. He passed
by. Well, then. For safety.

1034
01:23:34.840 --> 01:23:40.520
It' s clear you have to
wear the antiophic. But it'

1035
01:23:40.560 --> 01:23:46.439
s true, though hard. It' s a spectacular tracking ticking and above

1036
01:23:46.479 --> 01:23:50.920
all, when you get there to
the lookout, which is a pyramid that

1037
01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:56.680
eye, it' s an official
pyramid that is the highest in all America,

1038
01:23:57.640 --> 01:24:00.680
with seventy- two meters, but
it' s being investigated if it

1039
01:24:00.720 --> 01:24:01.840
goes, because you don' t
know if the base. It is thought

1040
01:24:01.920 --> 01:24:09.000
to be natural but there are archaeologists
who are doubting whether that is artificial.

1041
01:24:09.079 --> 01:24:13.199
Since that' s artificial, it
would break all the records and have a

1042
01:24:13.239 --> 01:24:15.520
hundred and ninety meters. I'
d swear it' s the next item.

1043
01:24:15.560 --> 01:24:19.520
There is a discussion about the pyramid
of tremendous dance, because the Maya

1044
01:24:19.560 --> 01:24:24.880
good to see in quotation marks and
cheated okay, used a hill that was

1045
01:24:25.720 --> 01:24:29.439
that it was natural and above put
the pyramid, although perhaps the hill was

1046
01:24:29.520 --> 01:24:32.439
not natural. But anyway, it
has to be very spectacular, because from

1047
01:24:33.359 --> 01:24:40.119
its use that base is higher than
the pyramid of Keops. It' s

1048
01:24:40.119 --> 01:24:43.560
huge. If that' s what
I' m saying, I' m

1049
01:24:43.840 --> 01:24:45.279
sorry, or good grief, you
don' t have to remove all the

1050
01:24:45.279 --> 01:24:48.800
trees either. No, but of
course, the jungle itself takes you away

1051
01:24:48.880 --> 01:24:55.279
from being really aware of how high
it is not me the images I have

1052
01:24:55.319 --> 01:24:59.760
with the drone yes, you do
see that it is a very high pyramid.

1053
01:24:59.840 --> 01:25:02.279
But of course, if they removed
all the vegetation, well, it

1054
01:25:02.319 --> 01:25:04.560
' s just to remove the hiccups, because it' s amazing. And

1055
01:25:04.600 --> 01:25:09.479
in fact, also what' s
a little sad not to see the original

1056
01:25:09.560 --> 01:25:13.880
state, because I say all the
jungles have eaten it, because there are

1057
01:25:13.920 --> 01:25:16.560
miles around that are made. It' s all artificial. Everything is artificial,

1058
01:25:16.560 --> 01:25:23.880
there are platforms made by the Mayans
and that was gigantic And not to

1059
01:25:23.920 --> 01:25:28.000
think that in that without a single
tree in its original time, well,

1060
01:25:28.119 --> 01:25:30.560
it is that I could not fit
in the head at that moment imagine,

1061
01:25:31.279 --> 01:25:39.520
because from the pyramid of the viewpoint
in front of a kilometer or something,

1062
01:25:40.199 --> 01:25:43.000
you had the pyramid of the jaguar. And it' s just, of

1063
01:25:43.039 --> 01:25:48.920
course, the whole route without a
single tree painted all red, it didn

1064
01:25:48.960 --> 01:25:51.840
' t have to be brutal.
You could have climbed to the top of

1065
01:25:51.960 --> 01:25:55.399
the pyramid or it doesn' t
leave, yeah, that' s it.

1066
01:25:54.600 --> 01:25:58.399
Hey. It happened to me too, because of these stories of mine.

1067
01:25:58.520 --> 01:26:00.720
So, from bun grandparents that I' m starting to get too.

1068
01:26:04.039 --> 01:26:09.439
I started doing the Mayan road,
but well, for some stories I didn

1069
01:26:09.439 --> 01:26:14.880
' t see coming in now.
I felt a little conned and I'

1070
01:26:14.920 --> 01:26:16.880
m a very patient person, but
when I lose her, I lose her.

1071
01:26:17.600 --> 01:26:25.680
And then, well, I talked
to the manager that without losing with

1072
01:26:25.800 --> 01:26:30.720
respect, but well, I felt
pretty angry. Then the man told me

1073
01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:38.840
he was right, so I had
to cancel that trip walking, but the

1074
01:26:39.560 --> 01:26:43.800
man notice how I would look that
he got me a helicopter. He got

1075
01:26:43.800 --> 01:26:46.079
me in the Ecostro because I say
I get a little angry. But when

1076
01:26:46.079 --> 01:26:49.920
I get angry, I get angry
and the man told me to look if

1077
01:26:49.960 --> 01:26:56.800
I get you a helicopter and take
you there and you' re going to

1078
01:26:56.880 --> 01:26:59.960
be alone we fix it and I
said yes, well, yes, you

1079
01:27:00.159 --> 01:27:01.920
' d fix it pretty well,
well, because the man got me a

1080
01:27:01.920 --> 01:27:05.119
helicopter and he took me there.
When I look at it I take it

1081
01:27:05.239 --> 01:27:08.920
to you yes, yes, yes, yes, well, it is also

1082
01:27:09.000 --> 01:27:13.520
a way to go super expensive.
But I say at last, for this

1083
01:27:14.279 --> 01:27:16.279
good man, for I must admit
that he did well in the end,

1084
01:27:16.600 --> 01:27:23.880
because when I nullified I turned around. I said I' m going to

1085
01:27:23.920 --> 01:27:28.000
get into the motives. Yes,
that I was very sorry not to see

1086
01:27:28.119 --> 01:27:30.760
one of my dreams, well,
my dream that made ten the pajamides was

1087
01:27:30.800 --> 01:27:35.520
discovered fifteen years ago or something like
that and it gave me a lot of

1088
01:27:35.520 --> 01:27:39.800
anger, no, but well,
the real man who was very resolutional and

1089
01:27:39.840 --> 01:27:42.600
with me fixed it. At the
moment he told me to hear if I

1090
01:27:42.680 --> 01:27:45.239
get you the helicopter and take you
because I don' t want you to

1091
01:27:45.239 --> 01:27:47.359
leave without knowing that pyramid and I
said, well, we fixed it and

1092
01:27:47.359 --> 01:27:50.279
here the discussion ends. Well,
the next day after dicaster, I'

1093
01:27:50.359 --> 01:27:54.159
ll take myself in the morning.
He left me there a good time and

1094
01:27:54.359 --> 01:27:59.239
of course there was no one then
I went up and that' s why

1095
01:27:59.239 --> 01:28:02.159
I took the images is with drone
because of course no one could tell me

1096
01:28:02.239 --> 01:28:04.600
not to get anything out, because
I was alone and it was amazing.

1097
01:28:04.720 --> 01:28:09.640
I mean, it was spectacular,
but, well, I, anyway,

1098
01:28:09.880 --> 01:28:15.039
I recommend it, no, but
what a crazy guy, what a crazy

1099
01:28:15.119 --> 01:28:17.920
town. I think it' s
huge, I think it' s even

1100
01:28:19.319 --> 01:28:23.239
bigger than Tical that' s completely
abandoned there in the middle of the jungle.

1101
01:28:23.319 --> 01:28:26.720
It is also true that there is
an ecological problem there, although if

1102
01:28:26.840 --> 01:28:31.119
you load those trees and just as
there is no fear enough to take part

1103
01:28:31.119 --> 01:28:35.439
of the lung of the Amazon from
the world. And well, but it

1104
01:28:35.479 --> 01:28:40.279
has to be a wonder and I
recalculate with this lookout pyramid. It'

1105
01:28:40.399 --> 01:28:45.039
s where that dilute apopeia for the
Mayas appears. Indeed, there it is

1106
01:28:45.319 --> 01:28:51.159
shown that, although it is very
similar to the Bible, it was not

1107
01:28:51.279 --> 01:28:57.880
the Spaniards who wrote it, but
that, well that the Mayans at the

1108
01:28:57.880 --> 01:29:01.239
time, in addition to their beginnings
of the Two of Christ, well,

1109
01:29:01.680 --> 01:29:06.920
they knew of a story that was
very similar to the deluge of the Bible,

1110
01:29:08.680 --> 01:29:13.079
so obviously something happened and from there
leads us to that which also very

1111
01:29:13.640 --> 01:29:18.079
little time ago has discovered the science, the geology, specifically that is the

1112
01:29:18.159 --> 01:29:24.039
Janger Draa. We' re gonna
get into it, because this is like

1113
01:29:24.159 --> 01:29:26.920
the gobe cletepe thing No, I
mean, it' s had to rewrite

1114
01:29:26.920 --> 01:29:30.760
the story. There was nothing before
five thousand five hundred years we were stuck

1115
01:29:30.800 --> 01:29:35.720
in caves and all this that we
have talked about throughout the program of these

1116
01:29:35.840 --> 01:29:41.119
lost civilizations and so on we arrived
if it was science. It shows us

1117
01:29:41.319 --> 01:29:47.439
that there was an event about twelve
eight hundred years ago, which is when

1118
01:29:47.600 --> 01:29:55.000
the glaciation ends and suddenly, there
is a tremendous climate collapse in the land

1119
01:29:55.159 --> 01:30:00.600
and the sea level rises one hundred
and twenty- five meters. It is

1120
01:30:00.880 --> 01:30:02.720
so and besides that there are two
characters who talk a lot about this,

1121
01:30:03.199 --> 01:30:08.560
Roberts Cotchi, and each one has
a different theory. And I' ll

1122
01:30:08.600 --> 01:30:14.479
say it Graham Hancock, how is
this story of Janger Drayas, Miguel,

1123
01:30:15.319 --> 01:30:17.039
yes, there I say it went
to. The best thing is also that

1124
01:30:17.039 --> 01:30:21.760
we are talking about all these discoveries
in the last twenty years. It is

1125
01:30:21.760 --> 01:30:30.640
not curious how the major paradigms have
broken in recent times. And, as

1126
01:30:30.760 --> 01:30:33.079
you were saying, there' s
Farm in Janco, on the one hand,

1127
01:30:33.720 --> 01:30:36.960
with his theory and Robertso on the
other. I had the chance that

1128
01:30:38.399 --> 01:30:42.600
there was also an atmosphere not very
good. I had the opportunity to be

1129
01:30:42.640 --> 01:30:46.760
at a congress where the two of
them were and they gave each other a

1130
01:30:46.760 --> 01:30:53.239
lot of cane. Yeah, but
I' m saying a lot, a

1131
01:30:53.239 --> 01:30:57.600
lot of street. I' ve
been there a little overwhelmed, but I

1132
01:30:57.680 --> 01:31:01.119
say I had the opportunity to have
dinner with them for a while, I

1133
01:31:01.159 --> 01:31:04.800
was with Robert Sock and then and
with his wife and then another tip with

1134
01:31:04.880 --> 01:31:06.239
Graja Hanco, they weren' t
going to put them together. It was

1135
01:31:06.239 --> 01:31:12.720
clear, I was clear about that
and I was the Hanja and look at

1136
01:31:12.720 --> 01:31:16.760
it. It' s funny,
because they both give so many explanations and

1137
01:31:16.840 --> 01:31:20.159
so many scientific evidences that I do. My conclusion is that I think the

1138
01:31:20.199 --> 01:31:25.760
two things that they talk about happened. I think they both happened. And

1139
01:31:25.800 --> 01:31:28.560
why now let' s see,
because, on the one hand, we

1140
01:31:28.840 --> 01:31:30.560
' re with Farm in Hanco,
that he talks to people who don'

1141
01:31:30.600 --> 01:31:32.680
t know. Graham Hanco, who
is a gentleman, who is a super

1142
01:31:32.800 --> 01:31:36.840
famous writer, who has made countless
books about this other humanity and lost civilizations

1143
01:31:36.880 --> 01:31:41.520
and Robert Scott became very famous for
some tests made by the sphinx of Giza,

1144
01:31:42.039 --> 01:31:45.840
proving that it was far before history. He continues to me, indeed,

1145
01:31:46.439 --> 01:31:53.279
because thanks to Hanco, on the
one hand, this man with trials

1146
01:31:53.279 --> 01:31:56.640
I insist. We' re talking
about both of you having scientific evidence.

1147
01:31:56.720 --> 01:32:00.600
They can' t be very meterodox. Well, Robert soft is a professor

1148
01:32:00.640 --> 01:32:05.439
at Boston University. Nothing more and
nothing less. And Janco graja, I

1149
01:32:05.600 --> 01:32:12.399
understand that he may be confused in
many theories, but he has some knowledge

1150
01:32:11.039 --> 01:32:15.840
that are many times exceeds people.
It' s very pro- good,

1151
01:32:16.079 --> 01:32:17.279
so it' s stuck in Hanco. On the one hand, he comments

1152
01:32:18.119 --> 01:32:23.520
that a series of meteorites, specifically
of the taurides that pass now, I

1153
01:32:23.520 --> 01:32:27.840
do not remember, but every x
years for near the earth, as they

1154
01:32:27.840 --> 01:32:30.239
fell through the area of Greenland.
That' s proven. That is to

1155
01:32:30.359 --> 01:32:34.800
say, in Greenland there has been
covered remains of meteorites that have fallen and

1156
01:32:34.840 --> 01:32:39.600
then also, because all the sedimentation
that there was to drag the ice to

1157
01:32:39.640 --> 01:32:45.279
the south and so forth, and
that could cause, moreover, that the

1158
01:32:45.439 --> 01:32:49.239
current of the Gulf, because it
had a certain modification that to let those

1159
01:32:49.279 --> 01:32:55.960
who are responsible for the climate know, for it is that current of the

1160
01:32:56.039 --> 01:33:00.479
Gulf that encompasses much of the world
and that is that fall of meteorites.

1161
01:33:00.479 --> 01:33:03.920
It would indeed coincide with about twelve
thousand eight hundred years. That, on

1162
01:33:04.000 --> 01:33:09.000
the one hand, summarizing it a
lot then came back. On the other

1163
01:33:09.000 --> 01:33:15.079
hand, I attend the geologist,
professor at Boston University. He speaks of

1164
01:33:15.159 --> 01:33:18.760
the fact that, as is known, astronomers know that there is a solar

1165
01:33:19.199 --> 01:33:24.720
maximum activity every eleven zero years,
that we have already spent those eleven zero

1166
01:33:24.760 --> 01:33:28.159
years, many years ago, that
is, that at any time there may

1167
01:33:28.279 --> 01:33:34.319
be another rise, another level of
solar activity, because the sun is cyclic

1168
01:33:34.439 --> 01:33:38.600
like everything in this life. Then
the sun seems to be that every eleven

1169
01:33:38.760 --> 01:33:44.079
thousand and peak years, because it
has that increase of activity and as I

1170
01:33:44.119 --> 01:33:49.880
say twelve zero years ago also because
there was that element of solar activity.

1171
01:33:51.640 --> 01:34:00.279
What casuaría could perfectly cause that his
life of sudden temperature has been twelve zero

1172
01:34:00.359 --> 01:34:06.880
years ago that caused that rise of
one hundred and twenty- five meters that

1173
01:34:06.960 --> 01:34:11.960
you mentioned earlier. So, well, just as the two things have been

1174
01:34:12.039 --> 01:34:15.319
shown, and above all, solar
activity is cyclical, because I think it

1175
01:34:15.359 --> 01:34:20.279
actually happened that, on the one
hand, those pieces of those meteorites fell,

1176
01:34:21.079 --> 01:34:26.039
from the taurides in the Greenland area, because to what has been demonstrated

1177
01:34:26.199 --> 01:34:28.560
and then, on the other hand, that there was that solar activity,

1178
01:34:29.039 --> 01:34:34.800
with which, because undoubtedly, that
was a bal conjunction and that destroyed everything

1179
01:34:35.119 --> 01:34:41.199
and that hence everyone, all the
cultures, practically the world, especially I

1180
01:34:41.239 --> 01:34:46.079
suppose that at the level of oral
transmission, because we have left those echoes

1181
01:34:46.199 --> 01:34:53.600
of the flood, of that flood
of course is not that it is a

1182
01:34:53.640 --> 01:34:58.800
subject that seems super crazy to me, not more that it coincides with that

1183
01:34:58.840 --> 01:35:02.600
maximum solar, of course, that
it is scary if it touches us now,

1184
01:35:02.720 --> 01:35:05.960
because supposedly, the good cycle,
the solar cycles, that is eleven

1185
01:35:06.079 --> 01:35:11.640
years old. Not good, I
don' t say shorties. The shorts

1186
01:35:11.680 --> 01:35:15.840
are short, they are eleven years
and now we are this year. We

1187
01:35:15.960 --> 01:35:20.159
started the decline, in the twenty- four. But, well, it

1188
01:35:20.239 --> 01:35:25.520
' s also going to be very
hot. But not that it' s

1189
01:35:25.600 --> 01:35:29.880
scary to match this again and along
with those evidence that those meteorites fell,

1190
01:35:30.520 --> 01:35:34.119
so of course the earth was very
cold. Suddenly it would warm up a

1191
01:35:34.159 --> 01:35:40.880
lot and melt a real barbarity of
ice. Now we have a climate that

1192
01:35:40.920 --> 01:35:45.720
' s a little scary. But
this would clearly justify the theme of the

1193
01:35:45.720 --> 01:35:49.439
flood. And this seems to me
to be something very, very remarkable.

1194
01:35:49.680 --> 01:35:54.800
It' s true that your book
is a highly recommended wonder of Miguel Labrador

1195
01:35:54.800 --> 01:35:59.159
' s book. The stones of
the gods have four minutes left. So

1196
01:35:59.159 --> 01:36:04.920
we have time to make a close
and a proper reflection on all these lost

1197
01:36:05.000 --> 01:36:10.279
worlds that are there and that tell
us about a much more magical and far

1198
01:36:11.119 --> 01:36:16.239
more mysterious past. So, Miguel
Labrador, your book is on Amazon super

1199
01:36:16.399 --> 01:36:20.239
recommended and there you have the time
you need to give your conclusion and your

1200
01:36:20.319 --> 01:36:24.720
close friend. Yes, in the
end, God is already talking about what

1201
01:36:25.359 --> 01:36:30.720
we have been talking about today,
because to comment that I am only forty

1202
01:36:30.800 --> 01:36:35.439
- six years old, I mean
that it is not many years, nor

1203
01:36:35.560 --> 01:36:39.479
not, but of course I as
a child, because I have been going

1204
01:36:39.479 --> 01:36:42.960
through this. It' s impossible, so listen, because in the end

1205
01:36:42.960 --> 01:36:44.720
it' s happened. We weren' t talking about it now with the

1206
01:36:44.720 --> 01:36:48.520
rain. We talked about it with
civilizations before the Sumerians. And it'

1207
01:36:48.560 --> 01:36:53.920
s true that the nineties that for
me is the decade where the most paradigms

1208
01:36:53.920 --> 01:36:58.640
fall down, because we find a
clip gobe no longer say before the Sumerians,

1209
01:36:59.039 --> 01:37:01.600
well in what we find twice as
long back, with a civilization that

1210
01:37:01.680 --> 01:37:05.760
was able to do all that amount
And what we need to know, which

1211
01:37:05.840 --> 01:37:10.760
is that we have known the one
hundred and fifty every fifty mass places and

1212
01:37:10.880 --> 01:37:14.800
for examples, which is that it
is incredible. I mean, I mean,

1213
01:37:14.800 --> 01:37:14.800
I mean, I mean, I
mean, I mean, I mean,

1214
01:37:14.800 --> 01:37:14.800
I mean, I mean, I
mean, I mean, I mean,

1215
01:37:14.800 --> 01:37:15.279
I mean, I mean, I
mean, I mean, Now he

1216
01:37:15.279 --> 01:37:16.840
' s lucky enough to be there
shortly. Not that if you envy me,

1217
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three sales say that there may be
healthy envy, no, because I

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don' t have a real father' s life. That is to say,

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then I already invite you some canes
in Madrid that you pass, yes,

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yes, because I already tell you
with that discovery, with the discovery

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of channel that we also had to
go almost twice the time, not of

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the culture chavín or of the Olmecs, with the discovery of the yanger drayas,

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with the discovery of the viewpoint.
In the end, everything indicates to

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us and that is what I want
to hear, that these myths of those

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who spoke of the primordial cultures and
that in many cases give us twenty thousand

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laps. Every time the years go
by, I think we' re going

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to evolve, we can evolve tremendously
and have all the technology in the world,

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but we' re going back in
a spectacular way. I mean,

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I' m afraid of where we' re going then. I have more

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and more respect if I had it
before, I have it more and more

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because of previous cultures And what they
wanted to explain to us is that there

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is another life, there is possibility
of a golden age, but that I

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believe it goes not through the material, but more into the spiritual. And

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now, when I am reading now
many things about neuroscientists and people as exceptional

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as a maria, the Spanish supuch
or najarez that are beginning to show how.

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There are things I have always thought
were esoteric and had no real basis.

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How is the subject of meditation and
so on. And yet, the

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scientific neuros are explaining no. No, you don' t forgive this.

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What people five or six, seven
thousand years ago that improves knows how,

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but they knew. Well, now
science is proving that it has a real

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basis. No, and then I
say, I pay more and more attention

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to what previous peoples told us,
because I was much wiser than we were.

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And I think that golden age that
is reflected because in the end all

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this to me and that' s
why I put it in the book,

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I have done it above all perhaps
for the hope of thinking that the human

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being in a time or in several
epochs, actually came to live in harmony

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with nature, with ourselves and I
think that with a lot of effort,

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I think we could come again.
Not now, I mean, we'

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re going back. But, well, why not, maybe we started rethinking

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things and going back to that golden
age that I think did exist. Well,

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my friend, what a beautiful teaching
the wisdom of the ancient peoples that

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we forgot and we have a society
that is becoming much more degraded and what

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a pity, but what great truth? Alejandro Anarto conclusion of your close friend.

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Very quickly Juange, William Ryan and
Walter Pirman, in nineteen hundred and

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ninety- eight, professors at the
University of Colombia demonstrated how the Black Sea

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could be formed after the universal flood, after the last great of this great

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thaw that occurred twelve thousand years ago. According to his studies, the Black

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Sea grew daily more than ten centimeters
in that period. A very interesting scientific

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study and I believe that everything that
we were exploring in this program Juan gesún

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echoes of a wonderful past, of
a golden age and clearly, whenever we

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talk about these topics, of these
riddles of the past, Juan ge.

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For me it is a puzzle where
pieces are missing and that makes it extremely

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fascinating. And I can be followed
on social networks, on Twitter, Instagram

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and tiktok, in arroba, alevernal
pres with me and if you like my

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01:40:53.319 --> 01:40:59.279
work, I invite you to subscribe
to my YouTube channel. Mandragora Mysteries Mandragora

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Mysteries on YouTube. Well, ma' am, what I can tell you

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is that I' ve been lucky
enough to go to many of these places

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that mark the past of humanity,
of another humanity, of Aguanaco, Easter

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Island, Egypt. And, indeed, when you see those wonders that did

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those ancient societies, what you think
is that there really was another world.

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Let us not deceive ourselves, a
world also where endless war, but also

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a world that learned to live in
balance with what surrounded them. A world

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that learned to whisper in the ear
to the ancient gods a world where magic

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was real. Too bad this twenty- first century of gross science and politics

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is ending our soul. And never
forget that we live in a magical world,

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because it is full of mystery