MARATON DE RELATOS DE MIGRANTES / HISTORIAS NUEVAS Y RECOPILACION DE HORROR / L.C.E.

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This next story comes from a woman, a woman who, like so many

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who come in precarious situations, decide
to make the difficult decision to abandon everything

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they know, that is, their
culture, their nationality, their family,

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to get something better, to have
a more Prosperous future, although of course,

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to get to this future you have
to go through different places, difficult

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places and, as is the subject
of today, which is of migrants,

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clearly are places in which people must
not enter. This woman tells that this

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story unfolds in a desert, an
inhospitable desert far from virtually any city or

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village. That night she was chased
for something and also a group to travel

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with for her bad luck. Those
people who were told were going to help,

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they ended up hurting them even more, completely leaving them to their fate

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in that desert. Luckily for her
and her family, they lived to tell

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this experience. His story is as
follows. My name is Constance Arriola.

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Interestingly, this story was just told
to me relatively recently. A rather experience

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that happened to my mother when she
and my father migrated to the United States

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back in the year two thousand.
I wasn' t there yet, but

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my mother was already pregnant with me. This experience was very disturbing and very

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traumatic for my mother, so in
all her life I had kept it absolutely

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secret. Only she knew it and
so did my father, for he was

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present when all this happened. The
thing is, I had nightmares. I

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' ve had this kind of nightmares
all my life, since I remember my

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dreams. It' s not a
nightmare that dreams all the time, but

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it' s a nightmare that I
dealt with year after year. Sometimes the

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dream and every time the dream feels
very alive, as if it is really

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running, as if something really haunts
me. I' ve dreamt since I

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was a kid, that I'
m in a desert. Everything is at

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night the absolute darkness. I go
running and what follows me is a woman

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with long hair, black hair,
pale face with a grimace that produces real

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terror. Just seeing her. She
stretches out her hands to try to reach

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out to me and that' s
why I can see them her hands are

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disgusting, also horrifying. These are
equally pale with pointed yellow nails, as

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if they were claws trying to reach
me, and just when it is almost

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on the verge of reaching me,
I always wake up. It' s

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a nightmare I' ve had since
I was a kid and I' ve

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told my mother a lot of times. Today, since I have some maturity,

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he has dared to tell me this
experience. And all this unites.

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It happens that when they migrated in
that year two thousand for their bad luck,

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the people they hired to pass them
were completely tyrants. They had very

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bad luck. My parents and the
people who go with them once they had

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passed them to the United States.
Those colliers forced them down in the middle

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of the desert and began to separate
the men from the women. My father

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explains that he took my mother by
the arm, but those men were armed

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and in a very abrupt way,
almost putting the gun on my father'

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s head, he made me release
my mother from the wrist. They separated

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him and took the women somewhere a
little far away. They could still be

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seen from a distance. Perhaps they
had been removed for a few fifteen meters.

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That' s where another car is
coming up. This was a sedan

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car, but what my mother drew
attention to is that the rear seats of

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this car were not found either the
co- pilot' s seat. It

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was a car that looked basically like
a box. He only had one seat

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and it was the driver' s
seat. They quickly began to separate the

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women and she realized that the younger
ones, which we could say the ones

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that were good to see were separated, were putting them practically aside from this

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car. This had all the signs
of being a bad thing, for it

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is not a surprise that, upon
arriving in a new country, bad people

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will try to take advantage of this. And it is well known that women

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who are beautiful are taken for other
kinds of trades, practically to profit at

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their expense. My mother was very
afraid at the time. She was begging

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and praying that she would not be
chosen, but it was practically impossible for

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her not to be chosen. She
was twenty- one at the time,

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thin and pretty. She was two
months pregnant with me at the time,

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but her belly was not noticeable at
the time. She was deeply terrified.

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When at that one of the girls
ran away obviously desperate, knowing what was

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going to stop her from the future, then another and then another and my

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mother was fourth. In fraction of
seconds, men are dispersed by running them.

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My mother stayed in the desert in
the middle of the night, they

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had taken their coats off. It
was so cold. She ran and ran

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and hid. My mother remembers she
hasn' t run a few meters.

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She wasn' t looking to get
disoriented either. She ran long enough to

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make sure she wasn' t being
chased and at that very moment she lay

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down in the sand. In those
dry kills and cactus, and there he

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waited looking away at the lights of
the car and the vans, listening to

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all the fuss, men, screaming
in all directions. Apparently, the women

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had not been the only ones who
had run away, but also the men.

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And as if this were not enough, my mother started hearing detonations.

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There were three detonations of a short
weapon. After this, she slapped her

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head, stopped looking at the road
and that' s when she heard the

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engine of both vehicles start and leave. She was still trembling, she was

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extremely frightened and very cold. When
she suddenly begins to look at the panorama,

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she looks one way, sees the
other and her eyes guide her to

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a lump that is moving there,
in the distance to the case, about

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five meters away. This lump moves
very strangely and is approaching it as it

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approaches and once his eyes have become
accustomed to the darkness of the night in

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that desert, I can see that
it was a woman. This woman crawled,

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crawled in a very strange way to
both extended arms, holding only with

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the palms and with the tips of
her feet, the knees held them high

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and and and going out to both
ends as if it were some kind of

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tarantula. This my mother surprised him, but it was more the fear I

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had of meeting those armed men who
continued to look at that woman who,

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as she approached, was adopting a
more normal pose, we could say.

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He got up on two legs and
approached my mother. She reached out to

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her hand and told her that she
would guide her with the other migrants.

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My frightened mother believed this woman'
s dress was strange. She was dressed

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completely in black. His long and
lactated hair reached to the hip. His

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skin was pale, so pale that
he could easily see it in the dark,

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just like his eyes. That woman, almost without asking him, took

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her by the wrist with a force, though not violent, but very possessive,

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a force she had never felt before
and began to pull her into the

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desert. What my mother thought at
the time was, maybe she was one

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of the women who came in the
van. This was strange to them,

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for although there were several men,
women, and even some young men of

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fourteen and fifteen years old, none
of them were dressed like that in any

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of them had pale skin. She
was remembering this and this whole situation became

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even more strange to her. She
realized that the direction this woman was taking

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her was the opposite of the road
and that was where she stopped her,

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or rather wanted to stop her a
little bit told Mira calm down. The

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others are over there, my husband' s group are over there and I

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' m running into the desert.
I think it' s more than obvious

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that running in any direction in the
desert at the border is more than a

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sentence. Obviously, they knew they
had to have identified the road, because

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it would inevitably lead them to a
town, to a city. It was

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what they wanted to do. But
this woman didn' t pay attention to

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him. She kept pulling it and
she kept pulling it and, for the

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most part, that my mother was
trying to let go, she wouldn'

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t let it go. The way
I was grabbing it was like a plastic

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was being it, as body heat. That woman didn' t imitate him.

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Nor was it freezing, but it
was very strange, as if it

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were at room temperature, that is, not alive or dead. My mother,

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in one of her attempts to be
grappling with that woman to let go

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of her already practically begging her,
realizes the nails this woman has are yellow

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and long and pointed. At that
moment, my mother remembers she was wearing

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a nail clipper. It was one
of her pants bags and this short fingernails

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brings a small razor with some edge
and it was the same one she used

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to grab that woman' s arm
and put it over her with all her

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strength. It wasn' t going
to be a very deep cut, but

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it was enough for me to miraculously
let go. It worked as soon as

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he released it. My mother took
the run, running and running towards the

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road, while that woman followed her
and kept running only meters away from her,

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shouting also in a very horrifying way, as if she were completely deranged.

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My mother ran and ran in a
matter of a few minutes managed to

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arrive with something some people who were
from her group. Luckily, when he

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went back, as the other people
did have a lamp, they lit up

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the desert, at least where my
mother was running to realize that no one

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was chasing him. She was coming
alone. That woman had disappeared, luckily,

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and as the minutes passed, they
met more people, including my father.

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Sadly, not everyone in the group
was located. Some ran with the

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bad luck of getting caught and put
them back in the truck with the pulleys.

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Others just ran away and who knows
how far they got. That night

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they got lost. My mother kept
this for so many years and told me

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so recently, because that woman she
saw in the desert fits the same characteristics

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that is the woman I dream of
and I think they will have noticed that

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I was not yet born when this
happened. I think it was at the

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time that this woman took my mother
by the arm, since my mother says

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that thing wasn' t a ghost, it wasn' t a spectrum,

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it wasn' t paranormal. She
says it was some creature, something that

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dwells in those hidden and inhospitable places
of this world that wanted to catch her

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that night. Maybe he loved her
or he loved me. That woman or

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that strange thing never showed up again
in our lives. People who live very

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close to the border have many anecdotes
that tell somewhat sad anecdotes and also creepy

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if you see it in a certain
way, this story happens to a senior

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person, a person who, as
they tell me in the story, was

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barely able to hold on with a
cane. It had been years and years

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and he for living on the border. I had seen numbers and numbers of

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migrants, families, the elderly,
adults, young people and children try to

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cross and also face the various adversities. Sadly, not everyone succeeds and the

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people who fail to do this,
who leave their lives on the road,

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are people who cannot rest and who
feel in these places still trying to reach

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that future, still trying to cross
the border. His story is as follows.

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My name is Gerardo Hernández. The
experience I want to tell you belongs

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to my grandfather. This happened many
years ago. In fact, my grandfather

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is no longer with us. He' s already passed away. My mother

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' s family is from the country' s border. My grandfather' s

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house, where my mother had grown
up, was almost stuck to the border.

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From his house you could see that
huge metal fence, that wall that

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divided Mexico from the United States.
My grandfather was always a friend of migrants.

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He understood that they were people in
need, that they were mostly not

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Mexicans, but from other countries very
much to the south of America. Among

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them, he met children, including
the elderly, who had the dream of

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moving to the United States. He
knew many success stories, but many more

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of those who did not succeed.
He says that on one occasion, as

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I told you, these caravans,
these small groups of migrants were made up

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of people of different ages and among
them were even teenagers, traveling completely alone,

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without family, without supervision. Many
people believe that migrants sometimes travel in

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families. Not that all the kids
who go there in that caravan are sure

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to go with their family. But
the truth is that in those lower countries,

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teenagers of thirteen, fourteen and fifteen
years of age choose to abandon everything

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and leave in these caravans and it
is not necessarily that they have family.

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Many of these adolescents or practically children
are people who were abandoned. They are

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people who have grown up all their
lives on the street and because last hope

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is to move to another country,
improve their quality of life. But obviously,

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traveling alone and not even having maturity
or knowing how to move into that

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country. Many of these young people
remain at the border. Many of them

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only travel with what they have.
You don' t bring food to much

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water, but you know well that
water sooner or later is not enough to

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satisfy a stomach. My grandfather that
night, when this happened to him,

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he was walking down the street.
He was with his cane. He was

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about seventy- nine, seventy-
eight years old and in that he saw

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a young man. There goes the
mountain behind the back of the neighborhood.

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Further there was that wall. He
saw this young man sitting there squatting around

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holding his feet with his hands.
Because of the cold weather, as it

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was the months of October, he
thought he was a migrant. A caravan

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had recently passed and because of this, some migrants who failed to get to

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the United States stayed in Mexico,
in that city to get a job.

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It was common to see these migrants, sleeping among the mountains in some streets

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that were not very crowded. But
what moved my grandfather’ s heart most,

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unlike the other migrants he had seen, is that he seemed to be

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a young man between the ages of
thirteen, not much more, and that

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he was completely alone. And in
case this wasn' t enough, his

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appearance was thin, but very thin. Nearly his skin was attached to the

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bones. He just hugged and tried
to get warm. My grandfather, at

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that time, had gone out of
the shop for some bread and when he

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saw this boy he approached him slowly
with his cane. When he was very

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close to him, he asked the
boy what you' re doing here where

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you' re from. The boy
replied that he was coming from Honduras,

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that, as he suspected, he
was traveling completely alone. My grandfather just

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bent his head I couldn' t
believe what I was hearing and then asked

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him you' re hungry. The
boy replied that yes, that he had

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not eaten in days and that he
had not been able to get food in

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exchange for favors. He also explained
that he had tried to cross, but

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that it was useless. Me or
grandfather at that moment among all the darkness

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that had buried his cane in the
sand, opened the bread and while he

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did this, holding very well the
bag, as they were shaking his hands

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and he was an adult lord and
trying that no bread would fall to him

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due to the wind that blew very
but very loud and iced, raised his

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gaze again to see that boy and
offer him a piece of bread. What

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my grandfather has in mind was to
invite him to dinner and help him,

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even for that night. But when
he looked back at this boy, he

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saw that the space was empty.
The boy had disappeared in a matter of

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seconds, in which he looked down
at the bag, prepared it and offered

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it to him. My grandfather looked
one way and looked the other way.

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It was all a mountain with sand. The houses behind their backs were somewhat

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removed. The boy could still have
moved us so fast. And it'

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s at that moment that my grandfather
realized that he had seen an almita,

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maybe some young man who tried to
get to his dream, but he never

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got it. Inevitably, this young
man died because of the famine that had

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a case that adds to many others, so many souls in sorrow that they

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cannot rest in peace. As I
said earlier, many people try to cross

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different countries. Some do it alone
completely, which is very dangerous, although

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they have no other left, but
others do it as a couple or as

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a family, and this was the
case. A young couple who was passing

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by and the mother of whom this
story tells was that woman with a great

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heart, what empathy is very easy
with the other people who, as soon

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as she can help, decided to
help this couple without thinking a bit about

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what was traveling with them. While
he wanted to help, he did not

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know at all what that couple was
dragging a really sad past that generated in

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an entity that we could not say
if it was bad, dark demonic,

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but that in one thing, if
it is very clear, this entity that

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now accompanies them, took advantage of
the suffering of this couple to find in

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them a means by which to dwell
in this world. His story is as

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follows. My name is Ricardo Soleto. I' m gonna tell you something

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that happened to my mother and me. A lot of migrants pass through here.

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In fact, the authorities, mostly
the national guard and the military,

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keep migrants on this site for more
than anything, take their names and carry

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a count within what can be controlled
of the people who are entering the country.

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Of course these people are going to
go all over the country to the

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United States and among these caravans are
many people who are very exposed, children,

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young people, adolescents, pregnant women, elderly people. And my mother,

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whenever she saw the caravans, selected
the people who might be in very

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precarious circumstances, either because of their
clothes, or because of what they brought

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with them, even because of their
condition if she saw them very thin or

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very demacrated. My mother offered them
shelter and food, as the authorities held

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him for about a day. And
on that day, because these people have

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to eat. While the authorities gave
them food, this was not enough for

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everyone and they only split once and
ready, so many migrants were left hungry.

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My mother offered them food and shelter. On that occasion, my mother

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saw a couple, a young couple
who did not go beyond the age of

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twenty- five. The truth is, it was very precarious. The boy

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wore a broken short above his knee. He wasn' t wearing shoes,

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his feet were all scratched, wounded, his shirt was holed. The woman

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also dressed you understand very much but
very worn and carried with them simply a

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bale of clothes, what caught my
mother' s attention is that this couple

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expressed itself very well and in case
this was not little that inspired her confidence.

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The girl was carrying a child,
wearing it wrapped between several blankets.

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He always stuck to him. He
never let go of it or gave it

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to the boy He kept it glued
to her like it was part of his

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body. Probably a first- time
mom. My mother invited them to the

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house in an uninhabited room that she
had on the outside warm enough and well

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equipped for her to spend a pleasant
night with bathroom with bed. These young

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people were deeply grateful, so much
so that the boy offered to clean the

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entire courtyard. My mother told him
it wasn' t necessary, but the

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boy did. He also cleaned the
entrance and stuff. I was deeply grateful

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for what my mother had given them. When they were having dinner, my

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mother realized that even for food,
the girl didn' t want to let

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go of the child. My mother
told him many times that she took care

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of him in what she ate,
but she didn' t want to.

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I simply declined the offer generously.
The girl ate a hand and her boyfriend.

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On the other hand, he didn' t seem to care. The

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boy did not pay the slightest attention
to the child that this eye was still

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wrapped in Sheets and Sheets. My
mother remembers that, at that point in

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the night, the boy had not
even carried the child, had not even

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pampered him, had not touched him, had not charged him, so she

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thought that maybe that child was only
the child of the girl, although I

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missed this at a point of dinner, the boy gets up and leaves.

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My mother doesn' t remember very
well if she went outside or went to

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the bathroom. The fact is,
that girl and my mother were left alone.

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I was at this point outside.
My mother approaches the girl and asks

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her how much the child has.
The smiling girl tells him he' s

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three months old and he' s
pretty big and heavy. My mother extends

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her hand to touch the child and
only touches those sheets, those rags in

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which obviously, the girl brings him
in tangled and feels like a little hand

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grabs her by the finger. My
mother, at that moment she starts talking

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to the girl about the child.
He just feels like he' s holding

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her finger. He even calls it
tight. The boy' s strong.

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The girl, with a smile answers
that yes and that she is healthy,

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that it was the most important thing
at the time. The groom returns,

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the girl goes to bed and lies
next to the boy, extends his arm

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and rests next to him. After
talking to the groom, my mother tells

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him that she has blankets, has
special baby sheets, also some oils that

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were from some family nephews, but
she had grown up. Obviously, they

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didn' t occupy that anymore.
The boy is very grateful for the intentions,

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but tells him that they are not
necessary, that they do not carry

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any children. My mother is surprised
by this, she says, but hey,

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your wife, your girlfriend has a
kid. The boy' s not

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yours. The boy says yes or
good. Somewhere you' ll see,

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my girlfriend was pregnant about a year
and a half ago. The boy,

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if he was mine, we were
looking forward to it. I was a

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kid who had brought us together more
as a family, but what happened is

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that my girlfriend had a mishap.
The child was ahead of him at seven

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months of age and was born with
some complications. The doctors told us that

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they had to take very special care, a clearly expensive care and that in

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our village we had not to move
to a city and also pay for the

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treatment of the child, an effort
that I made, but the situation did

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not improve. It didn' t
matter if I had two or three jobs.

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The treatment was simply too expensive.
There were times when I couldn'

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t afford it. We were even
left without eating the child ended up dying.

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We lost him when he was three
months old. It was at that

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moment that I decided to emigrate,
we planned it and everything, but my

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girlfriend didn' t look so good. She was very affected by the loss

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of our child and I can understand
it, as she spent the whole day

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with him. I went to work
and only expected better times to come,

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but she had to deal with everything
every time the child got bad, every

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time the child did not respond,
She had to deal with it, while

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I only sent her money. So
much so that she was in shock once

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our son passed away. And since
then she acts as if the child is

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still with us, although clearly she
is not. Grab any towel to any

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lump and start ploughing it. I' ve tried to talk to her before,

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but it' s much worse.
He starts screaming, gets hysterical and

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even once tried to take his life. That' s why I let her

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go on with it. My only
hope is to move to the United States,

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along with her, get a good
job and give her psychiatric help.

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You can see that in the United
States they have so many methods and they

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have better specialists who may be able
to cure them by bringing them into their

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own. Once I had told all
this to my mother, she was extremely

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surprised and it was at this moment
that she said hey. But the child,

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the child who brings it right now, yes, she' s really

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not making it up, because I
approached him and touched him. The boy

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grabbed my finger and pressed it hard. The boy suddenly changed his face and

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told him" Doña" seriously,
yes, yes, I was with him.

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He grabbed my finger. Kid rap
domete got up and what he was

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afraid of was that, maybe,
his girlfriend in his madness had stolen a

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boy from the caravan. It wouldn' t be the first time, it

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would be the second time she tried
to find a replacement. He approached her

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slowly. My mother behind him,
they took the blankets just as slowly lifting

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them without the girl realizing and they
were unrolling them one by one for the

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end realizing that there was nothing.
They were just more lumps of rag clothes

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made ball inside. My mother at
that time is extremely terrified, as she

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remembers very well that the child had
touched her at once my mother. Try

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not to go around this, at
least not with the boyfriend present. But

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that night she came with me and
stayed up all night talking to me all

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this story and that she had grabbed
the baby and told them something alex I

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don' t know if it'
s because maybe it was suggested, but

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I remember when that couple came into
the room where they were going to stay,

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I opened the door and let them
in and when they passed in front

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of me, when that girl passed
in front of me, I heard a

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cry that came from the supposed child, a small cry like that that made

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by the children when they moved.
I thought it was a real baby.

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I had no doubt to believe otherwise. The next morning, this couple thanked

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my mother for all the attentions and
left with the guard and the other migrants.

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My mother no longer touched on the
subject with the boy, but it

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is already more than certain what she
felt that night, perhaps, the despair,

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the sadness, the desire to be
the mother of that girl, the

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desire she had to raise her son, were perhaps enough to materialize something,

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something that is not a child,
but that is certainly attracted by this girl

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to take the form of one,
because they say that depressive energies, desperate

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energies, attract evil spirits that take
advantage of these. That was my story,

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greetings to the whole Community, the
haunted crypt, just like this first

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story that this man tried to migrate
to another country and on the way when

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tiredness, hunger, everything was falling. When he had just thrown in the

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towel. Something came out, something
helped him, but that something wasn'

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t from this world. He lived
an entirely paranormal event. His story is

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as follows. This experience came from
my father. My father worked in the

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United States about eight or ten years
ago. He worked a long time there

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with the money he earned, made
us a house and gave studies to me

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and my brothers. This was not
always the case. In fact, before

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I was born, he was working
here in Mexico. He had a certain

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fear of going to the United States, especially because of certain stories that were

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told. It wasn' t paranormal
stories, it wasn' t ghost stories,

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it was practically tragedy stories. Some
migrants were unable to reach the United

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States. Many of these perished and
continue to do so along this path.

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But despite this, my father was
friends with other people who had left,

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as is popularly said to be wet. They had arrived in the United States

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and had done relatively well. One
of them had told my father that he

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had gotten a very good job and
that not only was that good news,

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but that these entrepreneurs who were from
the countryside occupied more people, but they

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didn' t want to bring anyone
in. They wanted to bring in friends

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or family of the same employees they
already had. For their part, they

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had no problem, that these employees
were of another nationality and had no documents.

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Analyzing the paycheck, my father saw
that it was a good opportunity,

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so he enlisted, saved money and
started the trip. It has to be

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said that three of his friends had
gone to the United States, but only

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two had with two he continued to
arrive. One of these friends had died

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along the way. My father says
he heard about his friend' s death

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from the family. The body had
been found and because of the conditions in

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which the body was found, they
could not show it to the family.

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He was only recognized by signs,
by tattoos, by the credentials he carried

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and also by other belongings that had
been found. But, however, the

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body could not show it above all
because of the condition in which this friend

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was in, to say the least, a name. His name was Tomás.

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Tomás was said to have suffered what
other large numbers of immigrants suffer daily,

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leaving them miles before reaching the border
or in the desert. They simply

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keep their money and leave them there
adrift, often without knowing where they are,

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whether in Mexico or in the United
States. My father went with a

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very positive mentality and thought he was
going to run with good luck, but

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it turns out this wasn' t
the case. My father had the same

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bad luck as Tomás not to make
the story longer, not to fall into

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some details and just focus on my
father' s paranormal experience, is that

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he reached the Rio Bravo. They
had practically abandoned them. My father was

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without money, hungry and sleepy.
He remembers that he had not eaten about

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four days, three days, and
those same days he had also not slept,

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staggering, even sleeping for minutes while
walking as if he were sleepwalking.

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He went into this river and began
to walk in it. He says he

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saw everything cloudy. He does not
know whether by sleep or by the absence

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of food, but far away where
the darkness of the night allowed him to

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see. Because this happens during the
night, as migrants said it was the

415
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:52.039
right time to pass by the river. It was a time when the border

416
00:40:52.079 --> 00:41:00.599
patrol doesn' t have much visibility
and you can hide easily. One of

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00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:07.800
the tips was that if you saw
a van, some officer and you were

418
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:13.199
still in the river. If he
had some condition to swim or to hold

419
00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:19.679
his breath under the water, you
had to use it at that time,

420
00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:27.760
so he immediately thought it was a
patrol. He immediately dived underwater. My

421
00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:37.880
father could endure certain minutes underwater,
but due to tiredness, due to hunger,

422
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:45.280
he was fainting below. He doesn' t know how many minutes passed,

423
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:47.760
but you' re not sure.
If he started to lose the air

424
00:41:47.800 --> 00:41:53.920
under the water and he just didn' t care. I didn' t

425
00:41:53.960 --> 00:42:00.800
have enough strength to surface. He
only says that everything went dark and closed

426
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:08.760
his eyes and fainted. That'
s how he feels someone' s carrying

427
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:13.079
him by taking him by the arm
and shoulder. Somebody pulls it out of

428
00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:15.880
the water. He says that by
turning his head and looking at the person

429
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:22.119
he sees that it is Thomas,
Take his friend, the one who had

430
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:28.599
supposedly passed away. He looks at
it and asks where we are, what

431
00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:34.519
we are doing. My father remembers
perfectly all the talk he had with him.

432
00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:42.880
They talked about childhood stuff, stuff
about her adult life, stuff about

433
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:47.480
her family. It was as if
his lifelong friend had him in front of

434
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:54.559
him. My father remembers that,
despite being wandering, despite feeling very bad

435
00:42:54.639 --> 00:43:01.559
at that time, he tells Tomás
hears, but you' re supposed to

436
00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:08.599
be dead, that maybe you haven' t been watched a couple of months

437
00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:15.039
ago at your house what you'
re doing here. Thomas, in spite

438
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:21.800
of everything, my father was aware
that his friend had passed away, but

439
00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:29.920
even though he was asking him these
questions, Thomas did not answer. He

440
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:37.559
simply changed the subject or changed the
subject or laughed. My father came out

441
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:43.760
of the river, walked next to
him in the desert. They were walking,

442
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:51.280
they were chatting in the cold desert, when Thomas gave him a bracelet,

443
00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:58.519
a bracelet that was very characteristic of
him. On this bracelet he wore

444
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:02.440
a saint, which is Saint John. This deo gave it to my father

445
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:09.760
and then they kept talking. My
father doesn' t remember at what point.

446
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:17.320
Tomás, from one moment to another, disappeared, no longer walking next

447
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:25.840
to him as if the wind had
taken him further out of nowhere. However,

448
00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:35.880
that bracelet was still held by my
father. He kept it in a

449
00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:38.920
wooden box he carried, a box
in which he kept certain things locked.

450
00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:47.440
This key was indispensable to open the
box. My father put the bracelet in

451
00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:55.719
there to keep it very well and
as time passed, this bracelet disappeared anyway.

452
00:44:57.880 --> 00:45:04.400
Fortunately, my father arrived at his
destination and with a surprising story to

453
00:45:04.440 --> 00:45:12.599
tell At that time, my father
believed that this was an insurance misunderstanding because

454
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:22.239
of the conditions in which he was
going had hallucinated everything. Indeed, someone

455
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:25.519
had helped him out, but that
person might have been a migrant, perhaps

456
00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:32.199
another person he did not know,
but because of hunger, because of sleep,

457
00:45:32.559 --> 00:45:37.400
because of the precarious conditions in which
he was walking that person perhaps distorted

458
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:49.480
his face and believed it was Thomas. He thought Tomás was helping him get

459
00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:54.960
out of the river. This was
my father' s thought for a while,

460
00:45:55.199 --> 00:46:02.400
like for the first six months.
But now, decades later, he

461
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:10.079
believes something else entirely. He believes
that his friend lost his life in that

462
00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:20.360
stretch and that what happened is nothing
else, but the last consideration of friendship

463
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:28.400
that they had. Thomas helped him
not to perish in the same place where

464
00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:34.280
he had done so, for many
souls are said not to leave the place

465
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:45.840
where they die. There is much
criticism of the border patrol or the police

466
00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:55.159
or army guarding the entrances to a
particular territory or country. Of course,

467
00:46:55.480 --> 00:47:01.519
there are governments and there are laws
and rules that you have to taste with

468
00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:07.639
all the people who are coming in. No one can enter illegally. The

469
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:14.119
experience that follows comes from one of
these officers, or rather some stories that

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00:47:14.239 --> 00:47:22.519
are counted among them. It seems
that, in a way we could say

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00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:32.039
it almost daily or for some seasons, migrants die in their attempt to cross

472
00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:40.400
and it is so much their conviction
to arrive in that country that even many

473
00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:47.199
of these souls do not know that
they have already died and they are still

474
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:53.719
walking that they are still trying to
reach their destination. My name is Camila

475
00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:58.440
Gallego I' d like to tell
you about my father' s experience.

476
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:04.519
I currently live in Texas. I
have both nationalities, so to speak.

477
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:12.880
I' m Mexican from my mother
and American from my father. My father

478
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:19.920
is a border police officer, he' s done it for many years,

479
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:24.840
and I' d like to tell
you one of those experiences he' s

480
00:48:24.840 --> 00:48:32.199
had over those years. You see
there are certain things that border police say

481
00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:37.920
and also people who live near the
border between Mexico and the United States.

482
00:48:39.079 --> 00:48:47.320
In addition, it is to say
that on a daily basis or for certain

483
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:58.639
seasons immigrants trying to spend, obviously
some of them inexperienced, young children families

484
00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:04.199
who unfortunately die on the road.
My father says it is not uncommon to

485
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:13.559
see crosses or photographs or belongings of
some person lying in the desert or worse,

486
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:19.840
even remains of what a person or
a human being would be, both

487
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:30.079
children, women, men and also
babies have been found. It is inevitable

488
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:36.920
and because of this it is that
a legend is created Or beyond a legend,

489
00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:45.039
it is an event that practically everyone
in the border police force sold by

490
00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:49.760
day and is the next. My
father says that sometimes, when they go

491
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:54.480
in the truck or even in quadrimotos, they see in the distance what could

492
00:49:54.519 --> 00:50:00.519
be said shadows, shadows of people
walking in the desert, either at night,

493
00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:08.320
which is when it passes the most
or during the day. Even my

494
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:15.280
father says that when he sees these
shadows, obviously he and his colleagues or

495
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:22.039
any cop thinks they' re migrants
for obvious reasons, they have to go

496
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:27.320
after them. The rules and their
functions have to be tasted. But something

497
00:50:27.360 --> 00:50:32.679
curious happens, or rather disturbing,
that is, when they get to the

498
00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:42.199
place where they are supposed to have
seen those migrants walking, no one is

499
00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:49.039
found anymore. These migrants disappear and
then, when they set out to look

500
00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:55.000
for them, either around the area, doing a survey in the area,

501
00:50:55.320 --> 00:51:01.840
they realize that there are crosses or
belongings of some person near the place.

502
00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:13.119
These belongings are not new or have
dropped someone recently. They are belongings that

503
00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:19.760
take a long time and even if
they do, because, as I said

504
00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:27.920
before, sometimes human remains are found
in the sands, in the stones,

505
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:32.239
people who did not endure the road
and end up dying in the middle of

506
00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:37.039
it. Not a few times has
this happened to my father to see in

507
00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:44.559
the night the shadows of the souls
of the migrants who tried to cross that

508
00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:52.280
border. Many of them did not
arrive and, apparently, still in another

509
00:51:52.360 --> 00:52:00.320
life. They still keep walking.
Yet they still persist in reaching their goal.

510
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:16.199
Their souls simply do not rest.
Many transports have been used to take

511
00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:22.119
people from one place to another.
There' s a train and that'

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00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:27.719
s where this story happens. While
this family was transported in it, they

513
00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:38.719
met a strange passenger, who made
them live a paranormal experience. His story

514
00:52:39.800 --> 00:52:53.400
is as follows. My name is
sure Henry. This experience I want to

515
00:52:53.440 --> 00:53:00.199
share with you is not mine.
They told me about it a long,

516
00:53:00.519 --> 00:53:07.599
long time ago, it already came
from a migrant, although I knew him

517
00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:15.280
only a few weeks ago I managed
to recognize that every time he told me

518
00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:23.239
it was 100% real His gaze
changed, his voice changed and even began

519
00:53:23.239 --> 00:53:29.639
to tremble. I' ll start
at the beginning. I am originally from

520
00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:36.440
Reinosa and, as you know,
migrants pass there to cross over to the

521
00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:42.480
other side, to the United States. Many of them come from other countries,

522
00:53:44.280 --> 00:53:51.480
Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador,
etc. As I say to you

523
00:53:51.559 --> 00:53:57.599
many years ago. I was a
13- year- old preteen at the

524
00:53:57.599 --> 00:54:02.760
time. When my mother, along
with me, meets a family of migrants,

525
00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:07.920
I' m going to be honest
with them. I don' t

526
00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:13.880
remember which country they came from,
but their accent makes me something familiar,

527
00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:21.079
the Guatemalan. The fact is that
we found them and these migrants were hungry,

528
00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:27.559
had had a few lousy days and
were trying to cross to the United

529
00:54:27.559 --> 00:54:32.159
States. My mother, being a
very busy lady and especially, touching her

530
00:54:32.320 --> 00:54:38.920
heart a lot. Seeing that they
were bringing children, she offered to feed

531
00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:43.880
them. He gave food to both
the couple and the children, and then

532
00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:49.559
offered them his yard to camp and
to sleep for a couple of hours.

533
00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:54.800
Our house wasn' t too big, so they fit better in the yard.

534
00:54:55.360 --> 00:55:00.039
This family was there for about two
weeks and in him those two weeks

535
00:55:01.039 --> 00:55:09.400
they told us everything they had to
go through from their country to this There

536
00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:15.719
was a story, in particular that
left me trembling and it is very strong

537
00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:20.599
if you think about it well happens
when they were on their way to Acá.

538
00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:27.199
There is a train, a train
that in those years was in operation

539
00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:35.840
and even now is still in operation. The beast is nicknamed. This train

540
00:55:35.960 --> 00:55:42.360
transports many migrants. In fact,
there are photos both on Facebook, YouTube,

541
00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:49.320
Google where you can see this.
Many families, children, grandparents,

542
00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:55.079
men, women travel aboard this train, crossing much of Mexico, more specifically

543
00:55:55.079 --> 00:56:00.559
the south and part of the center
of the country, because on this trip

544
00:56:00.639 --> 00:56:08.480
this person tells me that he lived
this experience. Here comes a disturbing fact

545
00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:13.079
that perhaps most people do not like
to hear, and that is that some

546
00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:22.840
migrants, whole families or some young
older adults who cannot with the trip that

547
00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:30.119
they go short, whether it is
money food, are left in the way

548
00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:37.920
and, being migrants, having no
papers, are simply lost. This happened

549
00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:46.000
even aboard the beast. This man
says it was night when they were being

550
00:56:46.079 --> 00:56:54.639
transported by this train. Some people
were asleep. Other people were awake and

551
00:56:54.679 --> 00:57:00.480
rightly so, the breeze, the
noise of the train or the movement of

552
00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:05.559
the train with the tracks. Some
people can' t sleep with that and

553
00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:12.119
even more thinking about the problems they
carry, this man thought his whole family

554
00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:20.159
was asleep. He was sitting there
watching them with the breeze of the air

555
00:57:20.199 --> 00:57:24.679
and the moonlight, and in that
he was struck by a voice. This

556
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:32.039
voice came from behind him was a
warm voice, a low but very friendly

557
00:57:32.119 --> 00:57:37.239
voice. When he turned this person, he said he saw a man,

558
00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:45.400
a man of some fifty and so
years old, lying in the cold iron.

559
00:57:46.400 --> 00:57:52.400
His body was very thin, although
he had clothes on and these clothes

560
00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:58.159
covered most of his body. You
could see from how loose she was and

561
00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:05.119
from her fingers, that this gentleman
was in a terrible condition, but this

562
00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:12.480
person did not find it strange.
Many migrants travel in these conditions, some

563
00:58:12.639 --> 00:58:21.159
worse. Even this person was smoking
and this man had spoken to him precisely

564
00:58:21.199 --> 00:58:25.199
to give him a cigarette, one
of those cigarettes he had in his hand.

565
00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:34.320
Being traveling in these conditions, people
become very supportive. They know what

566
00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:37.599
the other one' s going through. So this person, without much thought,

567
00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:45.800
gives him the cigarette the other man
lights up without getting up very barely

568
00:58:45.880 --> 00:58:54.159
manages to hold his arm stretching it
and even shaking towards this person' s

569
00:58:54.159 --> 00:59:01.320
arm. Take the cigarette and start
smoking it. This migrant offers him food,

570
00:59:02.960 --> 00:59:07.000
he wants to share with him what
a small cookie he had, he

571
00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:14.039
couldn' t give him much,
just a couple of them, because he

572
00:59:14.079 --> 00:59:20.840
also had to give food to his
family. But this gentleman declined. He

573
00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:22.119
didn' t want any cookies,
he didn' t want any food.

574
00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:30.599
He just wanted the cigarette. Between
the talk. He told her that the

575
00:59:30.599 --> 00:59:37.840
cigarette calmed her desire to eat.
Therefore, he preferred to smoke a cigarette

576
00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:44.280
rather than eat something and he could
be seen in his appearance these two men

577
00:59:44.280 --> 00:59:51.800
began to speak the other without getting
up, while this migrant was sitting still

578
00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:58.679
looking towards his family, towards the
tracks and as this train was passing them.

579
00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:06.239
They talked about different things, different
subjects. They held this conversation for

580
01:00:06.320 --> 01:00:10.519
about five minutes, a little bit
more or a little less. When that

581
01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:16.400
conversation comes to an end, it' s not like they' ve cut

582
01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:21.800
it off. It just comes to
an end. Both remain silent, but

583
01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:27.599
for fractions of seconds, as this
person' s daughter gets up and obviously,

584
01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:32.719
this migrant pays attention to her,
asks her if she can' t

585
01:00:32.800 --> 01:00:38.519
sleep or has nightmares, but the
girl has none of that. In fact,

586
01:00:38.599 --> 01:00:44.320
her daughter tells her she hasn'
t been able to sleep all night.

587
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:50.880
Then his wife gets up and tells
him the same thing. They were

588
01:00:50.920 --> 01:00:59.519
both lying down, but they couldn' t sleep. They were just lying

589
01:00:59.639 --> 01:01:07.519
down and both had risen because they
had heard this man speak. His wife

590
01:01:07.639 --> 01:01:12.119
asked him what he was talking to
and he immediately explained what he was talking

591
01:01:12.159 --> 01:01:16.599
to the person behind, who was
a good guy and had even shared cigarettes.

592
01:01:20.280 --> 01:01:23.679
But her daughter joins the conversation right
now and she tells her dad,

593
01:01:24.119 --> 01:01:30.679
but you haven' t been talking
to anyone. I' ve been watching

594
01:01:30.679 --> 01:01:35.639
you. I' m lying down, but I' m seeing you.

595
01:01:37.159 --> 01:01:43.119
The daughter was thirteen years old at
the time she was lying down, but

596
01:01:43.159 --> 01:01:46.400
she was lying down in the direction
of the father. The wife was watching

597
01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:51.440
it. On the other hand,
she was lying in the opposite direction.

598
01:01:51.559 --> 01:01:58.159
They had both heard. To this
father speak, but they had not heard

599
01:01:58.320 --> 01:02:01.599
who had answered him. The daughter
tells Mira Dad I saw you, I

600
01:02:04.159 --> 01:02:09.079
saw you and I heard you,
but only You I didn' t see

601
01:02:09.079 --> 01:02:15.039
anyone else. That man. From
there he has not moved and has not

602
01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:22.280
uttered a single word. I'
m seeing you both. This person,

603
01:02:22.199 --> 01:02:30.079
this migrant, begins to argue with
them two and the solution that he comes

604
01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:36.880
up with and perhaps also logical,
was simply to turn around and wake up

605
01:02:36.960 --> 01:02:40.559
the other migrant to see, in
fact, that he was talking to him.

606
01:02:40.679 --> 01:02:47.239
He was asleep there. This person
turns around, moves it a little,

607
01:02:49.519 --> 01:02:52.440
but it doesn' t work.
He begins to move it stronger and

608
01:02:52.480 --> 01:02:58.440
stronger and stronger and stronger and feels
like this body, the body of this

609
01:02:59.280 --> 01:03:08.639
man is numb, he is petrified, he was totally stiff. This person

610
01:03:08.840 --> 01:03:15.599
keeps moving it. Try to wake
him up, but he realizes when the

611
01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:21.880
minutes pass. He realizes when he
starts touching his face, that cold,

612
01:03:22.440 --> 01:03:31.440
petrified face. That person wasn'
t going to move. This person had

613
01:03:31.559 --> 01:03:40.320
died and had not recently been living
for a long time because of the conditions

614
01:03:40.360 --> 01:03:45.880
in which he was seen. Obviously, this person, as every parent would

615
01:03:45.920 --> 01:03:51.119
do, as every husband would,
took his family, took his daughter,

616
01:03:51.199 --> 01:04:00.000
his children, his wife and walked
more wagons forward. They found it a

617
01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:04.840
little slow. If I heard them
settle down, they left that body,

618
01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:13.639
that body of a migrant who had
died on that train. To be honest,

619
01:04:14.039 --> 01:04:19.079
they say they couldn' t do
anything was still a long way from

620
01:04:19.079 --> 01:04:23.280
getting there and wasn' t the
only person who would surely lose his life.

621
01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:30.159
That night, this person tells me
that this gentleman, that subject lost

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his life because of hunger or maybe
something like that. His appearance, as

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he describes it, was cadaveric and
despite the passing of the years, this

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person says that he will never forget
that night when he spoke to a dead

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man. There have been some transports
that have been used for these migrants and,

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as they do everything, there has
been a market for these people.

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There are some people who are engaged
in transporting them to protect them, of

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course, with an economic benefit.
The work of these people is not cheap

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and, above all, is not
even safe. Some of these people do

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not care about the lives of the
others who travel and have surely seen in

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some news reports that they are sometimes
abandoned on certain roads. It is a

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questionable job, but on this occasion
we have a story that comes from one

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of these former workers. He doesn' t work on it anymore, but

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he does want to tell us an
experience that happened to him when he took

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the wrong vehicle. He realized that
everything that was said about certain curses,

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both on roads and in vehicles,
are real. Sometimes, migrants who lose

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their lives in certain places never leave
there to torment them as souls who cannot

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rest in peace. His story is
as follows. My name is Jaime Lopez.

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I' ll tell you about my
father' s experience. A few

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years ago he dedicated himself to a
trade, which here at the border.

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It' s a defendant, although
it' s not legal that we said

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at the time we were going through
a very difficult time. The whole family

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needed money and my father got a
job this way. He was going to

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be a chicken. A lot of
Mexicans will know what that means. For

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those who do not know, chicken
is the name given to the person who

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is responsible for transporting migrants from one
place to another, or from one country

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to another. My father did not
transport people from Mexico to the United States,

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but if he housed them in a
house to which he was special for

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that and then transported them to another
house near the border, once he had

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left them there. Another person was
in charge of passing those migrants to the

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United States. My father, for
obvious reasons, did not work alone and

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in that job he met many bad
people and also good people, people who

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like him, were there for needs
and other people who were more than clear

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that he only cared about money and
cared little, as migrants came from one

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place to another in a certain way
had rules. They didn' t want

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them to get too attached to migrants, even if children came. My father

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is a noble person of heart,
if you want to say so, and

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because of this he had many problems. When there was a problem that the

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authorities were close to or if the
migrants they could find were in danger,

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he would give up the trip,
return, take certain precautions and of course

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this would delay some trips, but
just as my father, who was a

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very conscious person who was carrying human
beings, were families. There are other

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people who don' t care about
that. For them it' s a

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simple order and those people are merchandise
and they don' t care at all

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to leave them stranded anywhere safe.
You' ve heard very unfortunate news about

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vans, trucks being abandoned with these
people inside and this was the case of

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a partner of my father. He
was the opposite of him. He didn

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' t care. In fact,
it is believed that he left many migrants

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half way clear to save themselves.
He wanted to make money, he just

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didn' t care if it was
coming or not. He just excused himself.

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And so did other people. On
one day, my father was given

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the order to transport these people to
one of these houses at the border.

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My father followed the order of order. Everything was spying on him, he

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checked the truck they had given him, and he realizes it' s this

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fellow' s truck named Fabrizio.
It was the truck he always used.

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My father didn' t like the
idea, but in that way they had

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no other way. My father went
up to all the people and started with

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the trip. Everything went well in
the course of the journey, but everything

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changed when he came back for obvious
reasons, he came only completely alone the

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box that had been in the back
where he had placed all the people came

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totally empty. It was a van, so it' s very strange.

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When he starts to hear blows coming
from that empty box, he listens to

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them first tenuously and then these same
blows sound louder and louder and louder until

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flatly my father cannot ignore all this
noise. You have to see why so

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much Alboroto, maybe one of the
people stayed inside the box doesn' t

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know, although it' s strange, because he always checks and that night

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was no exception. He checked the
box to be completely empty. It stops

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in the middle of the road,
those dirt roads where there is almost desert

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on both sides. Obviously, to
do this job he used secondary roads.

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He didn' t go on roads, not even on roads that were guarded.

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He gripped gaps, dirt roads,
everything that was most discreetly possible.

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He was just miles down the road
from the van. He goes to the

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box and opens it and if he
finds anything, he doesn' t come.

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Alone. What you find is about
four or five children. These kids

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who came in the box had a
very scary, very delusional look. They

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had their clothes torn, their skin
was blue. But the detail that most

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surprised him, the detail that left
him disturbed for that night and for a

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long time afterwards, is that these
children, when turning to see him,

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drawing his attention with my father'
s flashlight, he could see that these

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children had no eyes, no teeth, no tongue, because these children turned

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and smiled at him. They had
no eyes, they only had basins,

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and in smiling only my father saw
a simplicity and absolute darkness inside his mouth.

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My upset father leaves the box open. He didn' t have,

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he didn' t have the courage
and he wasn' t focused enough to

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close it. He just ran into
the truck, turned it on and started

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the march. He accelerated, accelerated
to no more power, while those blows

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kept ringing and kept ringing behind him. The metal box. For obvious reasons,

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one can distinguish very well the stroke
from the slaps. My father didn

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' t stop until he got to
this house. He went down completely pale

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and even he didn' t have
to say anything, because his companions just

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when they saw him, those peasants, those ranchers, asked him what happened.

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Something bad happened with the package.
You had a problem even getting caught

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by the police, but nothing like
that. My father, simply at that

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moment, could not articulate any words. He only pointed the box at him

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over and over again. Obviously,
her companions went and saw that she was

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open, but when they searched her
they saw nothing. There was no one

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inside her. My father, after
this, firmly refused to use that truck

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again. He knew that Fabrizio had
done something wrong now pursued him and that

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he had left so to speak.
That damn van, which these kids always

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live in, was too much of
a coincidence for the kids. No one

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had had a similar expert in any
truck had anything like this happened. When

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the other partner arrived, he simply
refused to continue using that truck that was

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his. When asked, and even
my father, when they were alone,

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I asked him why and what he
had seen. He had lived the appearance

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of those children, but he did
not answer him. And even more so

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when my father asked him that what
he had done, that something bad had

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been done in that truck, that
answer never came to him he never wanted

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to answer. After this, my
father was fired, not for this reason,

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but for the previous ones already said. He was a person who cared

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a lot about migrants and that was
not convenient. But despite this, my

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father is more than sure that Fabrizio
did something, something totally atrocious and that

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is why those children keep tormenting that
truck. That was my story. Thanks

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to the whole Community and the haunted
crypt for allowing me to share it