Misterio en la montaña _ Incidente Khamar Daban || Relatos del lado oscuro (Podcast)

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Campism. It can be a very
pleasant experience. Traveling to the mountainous areas,

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exploring on the banks of some beautiful
river can be a great experience.

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However, it can also be very
dangerous. Proof of this is the file

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of the atlov passage of which we
have a video out there on the channel

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and which does not stop surprising us. But it doesn' t stop surprising

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us that that' s not the
only case that hides something beyond. I

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invite you to stay with us tonight, because tonight we' re going to

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talk about the Kamar Daban file,
stories from the dark side, strange beings,

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happening is inexplicable stories that other minds
prefer to ignore. Let me take

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you back. In the early part
of the year one thousand nine hundred and

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ninety- three in a certain region
of Siberia, in the district of Ikursk,

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in the city of Petrovlovsk, a
group of young people is preparing for

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an excursion. It' s not
winter. Obviously, the excursion will take

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place in August, about eight months
later. However, camping expeditions tend to

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be prepared with a lot of time, especially because these people are part of

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groups of camping, hiking or various
things that require permits, updates, training.

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A guide has to be presented Let' s go. It is complicated

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to prepare one of these trips,
because entering the mountains is always dangerous.

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These young people are going to go
to a region south of Lake Baical,

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in an area known as Camar da
Ván, a beautiful area full of rivers.

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It also has some mountains and some
peaks not very high. Some of

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these peaks are two thousand three hundred
meters above sea level. Keep in mind

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that Mexico City is two thousand and
two hundred. So it' s not

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that bad. It is certainly an
excursion that would be considered more or less

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grade four or three. It is
not the most adventurous, because a grade

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six excursion involves a greater risk.
Only persons with certain qualifications could be authorized

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to do so. In this case
it is a group of young people,

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some of them very young. The
main guide is liuda, if you allow

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me, In this program we will
not mention the full names or surnames of

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the people involved out of respect and
also out of consideration, no full name

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will be mentioned. Liuda is the
guide. She' s a forty-

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one- year- old woman.
She' s a woman who' s

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been camping for over 20 years.
He has a master' s degree in

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mountain sports, has several records,
has numerous expeditions everywhere and specifically to the

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region, to the Kamar Daván mountain
range. He' s got a great

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experience. You know what the routes
are, you know how to make this

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more entertaining. She knows the milestones
of the road and is also a very

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prepared woman. She has an amazing
physical condition at age forty- one with

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a daughter of sixteen. She is
a single, working woman who attends a

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school where she is also a camp
teacher. Da courses is a personajazo.

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Besides, she has the respect of
a lot of people, because she'

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s the kind of woman she demands
as a teacher. He demands because he

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knows what his students are going to
face. It' s not anything.

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In the Siberian region temperatures can be
incredibly low. The coldest spot on the

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planet is there where the coldest inhabited
village is in Siberia. So the people

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who travel make scale campism in these
regions have to be very well prepared,

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both physically and psychologically. That is
where this capacity as a widow comes in

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to demand from her young students,
but also to give them much preparation.

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It' s eight months. It
looks like a huge distance, but in

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those eight months. Not only is
the route being prepared, provisions are being

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prepared or permits are being requested,
the group has to have internal cohesion.

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Tremendous. One of the girls who
is going to accompany you is not much

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of a widow' s liking,
because on some previous trip you had a

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crisis. During the trip he got
tired and didn' t want to go

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on. However, because the family
has asked for help and so on,

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it has been accepted. That is
why so much work is being done.

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The group has to be very integrated, very united. They all walk at

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the same time, they all help
each other, they all play and joke,

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but they all have to form a
luud group. You know perfectly well.

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One of its strongest members is from
this or team is Sasha. Sasha

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' s 23 years old. It' s incredibly strong. He' s

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a very very robust guy. While
he' s not a giant, if

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he' s an athlete with a
spectacular physical condition, swimming kayak background race,

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let' s go a tipazo.
In addition, he is a very

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trusted widow’ s guide. This
boy started working with her from the age

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of twelve, that is, they
are at least ten or eleven years old

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hiking, mountaineering. Together there is
full widow trust. He' s got

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it like he' s his own
son. Tatiana is also found. Twenty

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- four years, multiple climbs,
multiple expeditions, has been with luda on

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three or four occasions. Besides these
are very well- prepared people. Then

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come the Dennis boys. Dennis is
19 years old athletic, gleaned, cheerful,

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excellent walking excellent athlete, a lot
of experience. He' s also

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been with luda on other trips.
Valia Valia is a young woman who works

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in the countryside, is a farmer' s daughter, is a daughter from

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a time near perestroicaa, but still
reached a Soviet period. So she'

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s very trained, very athletic,
very strong. She' s used to

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this. He lives near the region. He' s been in the mountains

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many times when he was seventeen.
She' s a real athlete. It

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' s not very high, it' s not very robust, but it

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' s incredibly strong. Victory is
also found. What they call sixteen years

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a beautiful girl, with an incredible
smile, with a terrific temperament. She

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' s not the best athlete of
all. She' s not the strongest.

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However, it has a very good
attitude and this group has been very

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well integrated. Even if they don' t have to meet to train,

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they usually talk to others, they
even play some other sports, even if

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they don' t have a relationship. And the smallest is Timour, a

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boy of origin from the Mongol region
who also has a family historical history of

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mountaineering. This kid born in the
mountains, grew up in the mountains,

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He' s used to Siberian winter, he' s used to all this.

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He' s really very good at
what he does. He has an

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incredible physical condition and knows many secrets
of the mountain, all of them by

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themselves have guided groups in other expeditions. So they' re not exactly rookies

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While organizing everything, other groups also
go to the same area. A kind

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of general event has been organized in
such a way that many groups are going

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to go in the summer to this
same region and specifically in the same days.

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It' s kind of a competition. In fact, the daughter of

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Liuda herself, who is sixteen years
old, no one is going to lead

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another group that is going to follow
that same route. They' re not

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going together. Obviously, everyone leads
their own way, because if it is

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not funny, but they will find
themselves at a certain point in the way

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and from there they will follow a
third group, which is considered the support

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group. It follows another path and
the fact is that they all meet at

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the same point and from there they
go on until they reach the end of

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the route. It' s a
tour that will take about ten days.

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It' s not anything. It' s 70 kilometers of hiking and mountain.

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These are very impressive places. The
bank of the river is full of

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vegetation of life, there is cold
crystal clear water. Don' t lose

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sight of the fact that we'
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the tropics. Here even in the
summer it can be cold, but the

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landscapes are amazing. As they go
into the mountain. The forests are left

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behind and the peaks reach a steep
area. The peaks are particularly arid.

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There is very low vegetation, a
lot of rock, the wind blows very

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loud and the nights can become incredible. A totally starry awning in the winter,

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temperatures can be less than fifty degrees, but in the summer the temperatures

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in the wooded area can be about
twenty degrees Celsius, quite comfortable, quite

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pleasant. When you reach the top
of the mountains, the wind can cause

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the temperature to drop a little,
but in a normal summer the temperatures are

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eighteen twenty degrees. When liuda is
preparing all this it is expected that it

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can be cold inside the equipment.
Not only do they carry supplies for two

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thousand four hundred calories a day.
This is one thing that is calculated.

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It' s not by chance that
I throw a lot of stuff into my

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suitcase and walk away. Feeding is
not calculated on these expeditions. It'

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s calculated to give two thousand four
hundred calories. But also, with practical

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products from canned meat, cereals,
chocolate bars, tea flours. It takes

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a generous supply of water. Pills
are taken for different things, from fevers

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malaise of altitude, because even when
the height is not so considerable to two

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thousand three hundred meters above sea level, if you get to feel some discomfort

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for people who are not used to
this, the evil of height and you

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lose some capacity is affected to the
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So there may be some predictions,
but liuda knows that in the upper part

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of the mountains, the wind can
be particularly cold, so they are equipped,

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they wear camp boots, they wear
inside under the outer clothes, they

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wear a kind of leggins or clothes
adjusted to the body above, they wear

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loose clothes, wool shirts, they
wear windbreakers and, although they are not

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prevented for a winter snow storm,
much less if they carry, for example,

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plastics, a series of thick polyethylene
sheets with which one can not cover

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a kind of raincoats. The tents
are also waterproof. They carry slipping bugs

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and, just in case you always
take something that is known as primus grill,

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a small burner that is inserted in
a compressed gas tank and that serves

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in case of an extreme wind to
heat meals, to heat the environment,

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etc. They' re very preventable. Families have a lot of confidence in

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widows. She has guided groups for
years when August came, everything is ready,

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everything is perfect. On August 2nd
the group moved to it until arriving

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at a place known as Morino.
Morino is the last station on the train.

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From there the tour will begin.
The weather is great. The weather

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part that has been ordered two days
before reports that it will be sunny and

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very clear, which means an excellent
mountain hike. They begin to walk and,

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indeed, the result is tremendous.
They start walking and advance beautifully.

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Every smile sun see them, they
are full of life, they are very

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happy. These images that I share
with you now reflect that. A group

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of happy young people happy doing things, walk to the edge of a river.

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After a few kilometers they begin to
enter the forest that surrounds the river

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and begin the ascent. Everything'
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made well in advance. You have
four meals a day. Why I'

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m telling you all this. It' s important. Make me four meals

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a day on the way. In
addition, they also take some small extra

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supplies. For example, at a
certain time while walking you can eat a

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chocolate, you can eat a snack
snax cookie. Let' s call him.

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The fact is that they also carry
a generous supply of water that is

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replenished in the river before they depart. From there the bags are bags of

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camping and they are prevented. Everything' s going perfectly well. The weather

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is great. There are jokes,
there are laughs, there are games,

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four of August of a thousand nine
hundred ninety- three have reached the peak

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known as retrans Liatov two thousand two
hundred fifty meters above sea level. They

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camp there and for their bad luck, it starts to rain. A storm

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from South Mongolia has begun to reach
the area and the rain has begun.

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They' re in heights, if
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s torrential. In fact, in
the cities in the lower part it has

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caused flooding because it is copious,
incredibly copious and very cold. Even though

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it is summer and would be expected
in temperatures of twenty degrees, the reality

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is that nightfall is about four degrees. The rain has been very intense,

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even before they can establish the camp
as they go down, because they have

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already reached the peak they were now
going down, They have wet a lot

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and the ground is very slippery to
the point where liuda chooses not to reach

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the forest, but to look for
an intermediate point where to establish a camp

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and stay there. He knows that, under those conditions, with constant pertinent

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rain, the floor incredibly slippery.
Not only is it exhausting for young people,

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but it is also very dangerous.
They' re wet, they'

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re cold, they' re hungry, they' re very tired because in

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addition, the things they carry with
the water have become heavier before the end

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of dusk they set up a camp. They are about two hundred or three

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hundred meters from the next peak,
where there is also an old relay station,

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an ancient repeater of the rest of
the Soviet Union from the years of

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the Soviet Union. This place,
however, is not the ideal place to

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camp In that everyone agrees. It' s on a hillside near the beak.

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There' s no trees around,
there' s no protection, and

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the wind is rushing through the night. Young people remain inside tents, unable

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to set fire. The wind is
very intense and there is a lot of

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rain. But in addition, the
site as such does not contain much vegetation.

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So there' s no firewood,
so they cook that night using the

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prime grill is the only fire tool
they have. They eat and rest the

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night. It' s tremendous.
It' s so cold. Obviously,

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they' re very wet at dawn, they' re incorporated and they'

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ve been camping a little. They
get to light a fire, have breakfast

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and then. They pick things up, roll up the slipping backs, pick

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up the tents. There is still
drizzle so these polyethylene plastic sheets are placed

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that wrap them like raincoats and start
the descent. They' re a little

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more stocked up. After having been
able to eat something hot and they walk

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to the fucking meeting, is the
valid young Valía of seventeen years, goes

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as tip of the group. After
him follows Denis, Victoria after, in

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the end comes Sasha Alexandra, the
strong young man of twenty years, is

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the one of confidence, it is
the one that carries most of the luggage.

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He' s a very strong man, very reliable in every way.

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It' s the last one in
line. They are advancing the ground is

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still very wet, very skitish so
they advance with difficulty. The tipper Valia

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Valentina moves a little faster than the
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a light, thin young woman,
small her weight, allows her to advance

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a little bit more without the risk
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etcetera. However, Sasha, the
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heavier and carries more luggage, is
the one who has the most work to

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go forward and that makes it take
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11: 00 in the morning.
Already fully clarified. There' s already

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some sun. Some clouds have dissipated, even though everything is still very wet

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and more rain is coming. The
fact is that at that time they suddenly

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get to hear a scream. It' s a weird scream. It'

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s a cry of pain, but
at the same time it' s a

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cry that comes out very deep in
the chest. It' s not the

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classic scream of someone who twists to
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Widow the group guide. The forty- one- year- old woman turns

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and observes that the last in line, Sasha, her dear, Sasha,

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her child who has accompanied her all
her life, is holding her neck and

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screaming. As he rotates and makes
strange movements, she runs to him while

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he plummets, falls to the ground. Liuda quickly approaches and the rest of

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the group leaves the bags aside,
leaves the sleeping bags aside and moves in

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that direction. The girl who is
in front of Valentina in what takes away

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that takes a little while and returns
walking only to see the distance that the

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liuda guide shakes strongly Sasha, who
is lying on the floor. It has

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abundant foam in its mouth that mines
through the corners and can distinguish something that

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fills it with fear. He'
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the nose is all stained with blood, and he has severe seizures,

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but he doesn' t react.
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widowed. He yells at him,
tries to shake him, turns to the

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young and tells you to move forward. Advance those boys back to where Valia

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is, the seventeen- year-
old girl in that direction. When they

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hear another scream similar to the first
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guide, when they turn around,
it is shaking, it is on its

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knees next to the body or Sasha. Having these rare convulsions and they come

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to distinguish how it begins to bleed
from the eyes, how it begins to

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bleed from the ears and then falls
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As you watch this, suddenly two
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very strange things. Tatiana, twenty- four, a strong athlete who tries

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to reach out to her widow,
comes running to touch her, to shake

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her, for something, but before
she can do anything, she starts shaking

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herself, screaming, trying to grab
her neck as if she wanted to untie

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herself, as if she could not
breathe. He rips his clothes off,

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tries to tear off some of his
clothes, shakes and falls to the floor.

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It begins to crawl, but in
a totally disconcerting act, it begins

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to hit a rock. As I' m telling you, there' s

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a rock in there and she starts
hitting her head against that rock until it

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' s totally motionless, unconscious.
It doesn' t move a few meters

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from there is Dennis, Valia,
Victorilla and Timur looking at each other,

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but before they can do anything.
Suddenly Timur and Victoria begin to run,

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to run, to move, but
erratically in a very rare attitude. As

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they hold their throats, they touch
their faces, they hold on, they

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tear off clothes, and suddenly Dennis
and Valia observe that when they begin to

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mine the blood on their faces.
Both Timur and Victoria begin with spasms falling

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to the ground and stopping moving.
Dennis pushes Valia and tries to get her

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away from there He tells her to
run, to run. Downhill, let

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them run. They don' t
know what it is Run. They'

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ve been behind some rocks all the
time, run, run, and he

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himself tries to run after her,
but very soon he begins to suffer the

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same convulsions. When Vallya turns,
she looks at him with red eyes and

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starts dripping blood. All Dennis does
at the time is push Valia down.

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It pushes it with all its strength, making it slide and slide down the

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steep slope in the middle of the
mud, and then fall off shaking and

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standing still. Valia gets to hold
some of her luggage and walks away from

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there in the direction of the forest. The forest is already relatively close to

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a kilometer and a half, it
gets there and hides. Stay there and

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bring with you your suitcase that you
managed to hold. In the case of

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the suitcase is his sleeping bag,
a tent, a plastic covering and some

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minor provisions. What I was wearing
at the time waits and waits. He

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doesn' t dare look out there. He' s afraid to get out.

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You don' t know what happened. He feels a terrible panic,

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which prevents him from moving. He
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She' s not quite sure what
she saw. Her senses are deceiving her

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At times she totally loses consciousness.
He doesn' t know how long it

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' s been, but suddenly it' s night and it' s so

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cold it' s starting to rain
again, a kind of temporary shelter where

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the Dawn stays is alive. Surprisingly, she' s alive and she can

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' t believe it herself. When
it dawns and sees that she is alive,

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she collects her things and decides to
go up and see what happened.

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When he gets there, they'
re all dead. Obviously, in the

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last places where she saw them they
remain. Sasha, the strong man,

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is terit lying over there. On
top of him is luuded the guide in

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this rare position was on his knees
and he has gone off and they follow

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the same position. Tatiana is on
the side with her head severely beaten against

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a rock. Dennis is right there
where he pushed her. That' s

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it. He' s got blood
drain. She' s got some kind

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of weird gesture on her face Valia' s 17- year- old,

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little freaked out by what she'
s seeing. He doesn' t lose

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his mind or lose his mind.
And what he does is close his eyes

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to the corpses, because they'
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eyelids of all of them. Then
he goes to the baggage of the guide,

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where he takes a plane, a
compass, takes supplies, collects the

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remains of supplies of his companions,
which he places in his own luggage and

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begins to walk. Not far.
From there is the old relay station,

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the repeater a wooden structure that did
not locate it. At the evening of

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that terrible moment of August 4,
they could not locate her. Otherwise,

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they had gone to take refuge.
There, in a safe place, he

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kept a sort of small cabin inside
a sheltered hole, but when Valia arrives

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at this place, he realizes a
detail. Although the facility no longer operates,

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there is still a long row of
poles that descend from the mountain towards

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the forests, it goes in and
you can see it in the distance.

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She intuits that those posts must have
carried somewhere. They were poles that fed

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electrical energy and probably with some kind
of signal or something that repeater. So,

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how much they should carry somewhere.
If there are poles, the poles

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must lead to a village and there
you can ask for help. Start walking,

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but don' t lose sight that
this is Siberia. Walking here is

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hard. The soil is still wet
and as it progresses into the forest complex

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branches, fallen obstacles. The first
day, overnight, you can make fire,

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you can eat something. The second
day continues to walk, following the

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row of posts. It' s
not easy. The third day arrives at

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the end of the line. The
poles end up in an abandoned village.

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It' s two or three cabins
that are abandoned. There' s no

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one, now, there' s
nothing. This was from the Soviet era

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of the 1960s or 1970s. It' s totally abandoned. There is no

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trace of anything left, overnight and
protected by a cabin can be a little

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uer of fire, you can eat
something else. It' s hot that

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night. The next morning he restarts
the walk, hears the noise of a

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river nearby and knows that the river
reaches somewhere. So he starts walking.

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By this time, when it reaches
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He' s been wandering in the
woods for several days, his supplies

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are running out. She' s
very tired, she' s been exposed

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to the cold, she' s
got her clothes hurt, dirty very dirty

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from the mud of the branches of
all this. But when the river arrives,

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there is another problem. The river
bank is really very difficult to walk

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because it is rocks and more rocks
everywhere. In a very rare act and

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still in full use of his faculties. Valia starts taking things out of her

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back pack, from her suitcase,
among others, takes out her lipien bach,

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the sleeping bag and spreads it over
the weeds on the river bank.

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This is the classic emergency camper signal. Something' s going on. That

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' s why I put here my
tent or my sleeping bag or something a

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blanket, something to let them know
I' m in trouble. After that

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he washes his face with cold water
from the river, washes himself a little

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and stands there. This is Siberia
and even when it' s summer there

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aren' t many people. The
campers moved on. In fact, Widow

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' s daughter should have found her
on day five. Not finding her,

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she went on her way thinking that
they had been delayed and in order not

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to delay her own group, she
moved on. So the other groups have

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already advanced. No one knows what
has happened to the group of Valia and

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her friends and she is alone on
the bank of a river in the middle

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of the absolute solitude and remains there. On August 10th of a thousand nine

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hundred and ninety- three, fortunately, a group of callaquis people who traveled

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in kayaks along the river rafting and
hiking suddenly observe on the shore the slipping

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bach placed in the vegetation, a
sign of a situation of risk. So

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they stop the march straight away,
they watch a girl, because she looks

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like a little girl. She'
s skinny standing on the shore only in

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a shirt of little rays and her
missing pants yell at her, signal her,

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but she doesn' t respond.
One of the men who travels in

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the kayaks decides to bring his kayak
there, but the current is strong.

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So you advance them and then you
have to go back. It' s

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quite a period to come back,
but she has a very great anxiety because

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that little girl standing there alone in
the middle of nowhere is dead if they

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don' t pick her up.
Alexander Kaminiski is one of the men who

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are in kayaks, in canoes,
you are in these rafting ships, and

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he is the one who, in
part of the group, approaches there.

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They manage to get to where this
young lady is who finally reacts when she

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sees them, but she can'
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say much. He hugs one of
these men completely glued together, he keeps

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moving and he keeps crying. You
see that it' s very cold,

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it has a kind of cough,
precisely because of the exposure, it has

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a little fever, it' s
also having chills. Obviously, he'

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s in shock. This girl is
in shock. They can' t make

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the one that reacts at first.
One of them carries with him an endowment

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of vodka to raise body temperature and
give him vodka. She' d had

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a little drink at some party,
but she' d never had a few

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drinks before. So she feels like
she scrapes her throat and this makes her

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react a little bit. But in
addition, the intake of vodka causes the

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body temperature to rise a little,
makes it recover a little and manage to

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climb it in the kayak. But
they are far from everything, far from

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everything at all. They' re
in the middle of nowhere. The path

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these men are going to follow,
in their boats, in their kayaks,

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will take them four days to reach
the next town. They have provisions,

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no problem, they can take it, they speed up the pace and during

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those days they eat, they are
replenished, they look a little better,

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but they are not right to say
what happened. When they arrive in Sliudianka,

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the only population on the way,
they hand it over to the police,

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informing the local authorities that something happened. And that is when it becomes

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known that a tragedy had occurred,
when she begins to explain to which group

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she belonged, it is known where
the group departed, who they were,

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it is taken note of all this
and a voice of alert is immediately given.

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But by the time all this happens, it' s already August 18.

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It' s been many days since
that group had that. The young

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woman is still unable to explain well
what happened. All you' re saying

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is they' re all dead,
but he can' t even point out

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where they are. But in addition, the climate is beginning to deteriorate.

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And it would not be until the
twenty- first day, three days later,

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when a helicopter leaves in search of
the injured hikers, of these injured

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hikers. At the same time,
another group had also suffered a mishap and

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had been lost. So the helicopter' s looking for them, but it

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can' t find them. It
would not be until the twenty- fourth

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day, when they happen to find
the other group that is lost, they

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pick them up from the place where
they are with the helicopter and while they

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make the maneuver and turn around to
return, they locate the sinister group in

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the peak that close to the repeater. They distinguish them it is easy to

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wear colorful clothes. There are showy
things. Sleep bags are colorful. The

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tents that were tied behind their backs
are eye- catching. So they don

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' t have much trouble going down
or the show is terrible. What you

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find there is terrifying. The bodies
are just like they died. There has

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been no alteration of the bodies.
No one' s taken anything, except

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the eyes are gone. Obviously,
the scavengers. The crows have devoured the

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eyes first. So there are no
eyes. The bodies show peculiar signs,

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among others. They' re inflaming. The decomposition process has already begun for

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some time now and they are already
in the next process, which is a

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process of that partial ponification, a
kind of mummification that occurs when the temperature

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is adequate, the environmental conditions are
adequate. Decomposition does not occur in the

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same way that in tropical terrain they
are inflamed. Obviously, rescuers realize other

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things. For example, in two
of the bodies they are only in light

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clothes in the lower part, that
is, they have removed brigatory clothes and

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are in a kind of leotard mayons
leggins, as you want to love him.

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Three of them don' t have
shoes or have lost one of the

412
00:35:47.159 --> 00:36:07.559
shoes. The stage is not flattering. They collect the bodies that are taken

413
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:13.639
to the authorities where an autopsy is
performed. However, the autopsy leaves many

414
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:21.280
questions. The official report points out
that Sasha, like the other youths in

415
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:30.480
the group, had died of hypothermia
and that they had presented paradoxical nudity That

416
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:32.760
is why they had taken off their
clothes. As for the guide, fight

417
00:36:32.960 --> 00:36:38.639
her not. She had died of
a heart attack, a massive heart attack.

418
00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:45.639
I had ended her up there in
that position while I was trying to

419
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:49.199
help Sasha. The following investigations determined
that the guilt was a widow, who

420
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:54.239
had risked the group. The guide
had risked the group by making them camp

421
00:36:54.360 --> 00:36:59.559
on that hillside, where the wind
was blowing in a frightening way. It

422
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:04.239
was a tremendous good, there was
a lot of moisture, they were very

423
00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:07.239
wet and it was very cold.
That was the report. The bodies were

424
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:15.400
handed over, buried and the matter
ended there. However, Valia, the

425
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:22.679
seventeen- year- old, Valentina
would survive and some time later she would

426
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:25.719
be able to describe once past,
the post- traumatic stress disorder, the

427
00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:32.519
shock she had experienced, describing these
scenes I have told her, these scenes

428
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:39.280
where she saw people bleeding from the
eyes, from the ears of the mouth,

429
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:46.679
foaming, convulsions and dying suddenly.
The description of this immediately began to

430
00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:55.000
awaken a lot of anxiety about the
fact that a person dies of hypothermia has

431
00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:59.639
certain characteristics. In fact, pulmonary
edemas are generated by freezing in the vessels

432
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:06.960
of can pines, which ends by
breaking and bleeding the person internally presents a

433
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:13.320
very peculiar facial coloration. There are
lesions from frostbite in the gastric mucosa and

434
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:19.559
lesions from frostbite also in the cerebral
cortex, etcetera, etcetera. Paradoxical nudity

435
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:23.599
was well embossed. It is a
phenomenon that occurs when people in advanced hypothermia

436
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:30.599
near death begin to undress. Even
though they are suffering advanced hypothermia and are

437
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:37.079
near death from the cold, they
begin to take off their clothes. All

438
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:43.800
of this bouncing off the stage,
but not at all. For many,

439
00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:47.840
the case was an obvious case.
The youths had climbed a mountain, got

440
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:53.039
wet all night. They were wet, could not make fire, could not

441
00:38:53.199 --> 00:39:01.400
eat they were hungry, were weak
exposed and died of hypothermia. Another detail

442
00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:08.079
is that during the autopsy The general
review determined that they had a low protein

443
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:17.239
issue. They had protein loss similar
to a type of anemia due to poor

444
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:22.599
nutrition, and this had been a
concomitant factor for hypothermia to be galloping and

445
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:27.840
end them. Case closed, if
you want to see it, so is

446
00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:32.199
case closed. However, very soon
voices began to emerge that said that is

447
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:38.760
not so. The guide was a
great one and an incredibly experienced woman was

448
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:45.119
fully equipped. They had eaten four
times a day more snacks or, as

449
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:49.000
you would call it, along the
way, these people were not undernourished.

450
00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:59.039
They had been prepared for months and
had only been raining for three days.

451
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:05.079
At what point could there have been
this poor nutrition. On the other hand,

452
00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:09.360
the first to fall was Sasha,
the strong man, the most resilient,

453
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:15.199
the most prepared for this. After
that, Liuda had died of a

454
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:20.320
heart attack and had, however,
presented the same signs. There was bleeding

455
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:23.400
from the ears, from the eyes
of the nose, evidence that it was

456
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:28.679
no longer there when the bodies recovered
because it had rained and obviously, they

457
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:31.639
had been washed. And these things, like foam and bleeding, had dissipated.

458
00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:39.639
Many days had passed, but questions
followed because she was so light,

459
00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:44.920
that she was not the strongest of
the group even when she was an athletic

460
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:50.639
girl, accustomed to work, who
worked in very hostile environments because of her

461
00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:54.239
own family work. Why she had
not suffered this, at least in an

462
00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:59.159
advanced degree. All I had was
some kind of flu, a cold,

463
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:04.239
a cold response, whatever you wanted
to call a flu case, but I

464
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:07.519
wasn' t in hypothermia condition,
and I didn' t have any signs

465
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:10.199
of hypothermia. It was cold,
but it was logical. I was by

466
00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:16.920
a river in a wooded area.
It made sense. The questions cannot be

467
00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:23.800
answered and the case is closed,
of course, and many researchers are then

468
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:30.719
still trying to ask themselves what really
happened. And that' s where the

469
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:35.559
mystery begins. The bodies showed no
signs of violence. That' s obvious.

470
00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:40.079
There were no physical injuries, except
those that the victory itself had been

471
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:45.280
made on the head, self-
injured against the rock, not beaten as

472
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:50.400
in the case of Atloven' s
file, where there were very rare signs

473
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:57.239
representing an assault. In this case
there was no direct assault, no signs

474
00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:00.559
of violence, nothing was missing,
there had been no theft, but there

475
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:08.480
were also several questions. The group
of no one to the daughter of Liuda

476
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:13.159
was a few kilometers from there,
in the same environmental conditions, with the

477
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:17.039
same level of equipment, even with
less preparation, because nobody was sixteen years

478
00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:22.480
old. She was very young,
which reveals that this climb, this expedition,

479
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:25.280
was not of high risk. Group
three, the control group, was

480
00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:30.920
three kilometres beyond, in the same
weather conditions, with less preparation, and

481
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:37.119
did not suffer any damage. When
the bodies were recovered, another group had

482
00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:44.440
strayed, which meant they had less
chance of survival. They were lost and,

483
00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:47.039
however, found them alive. Why
this group, which was so prepared,

484
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:53.639
had good equipment even had primus stoves
that allowed them to eat hot food

485
00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:59.519
even in the galley, even with
the rain they could eat hot food using

486
00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:07.000
the small prime grills. Why these
died. But besides, there was another

487
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:09.079
huge question. Why did it happen
at eleven in the morning and not at

488
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:13.079
three in the morning or at five
in the morning shortly before dawn, when

489
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:16.800
is the coldest moment? Why at
eleven o' clock in the morning they

490
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:21.199
suddenly died of hypothermia, when at
eleven o' clock in the morning,

491
00:43:21.400 --> 00:43:27.920
according to the weather report of that
day, at that time there was sun

492
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:30.920
yes, it had rained copiously.
There was probably ice because of the combination

493
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:35.840
of height, rain and wind.
It is likely that there was ice,

494
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:40.079
that they were all very wet,
but by eleven in the morning they had

495
00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:44.199
already had breakfast which revealed that they
were conscious and in use of their faculties.

496
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:49.760
Hypothermia neutralizes that, a person who
is under the effects of hypothermia loses

497
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:59.559
the use of his mental faculties,
does not reason delusion sees things in this

498
00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:06.880
case had had breakfast. If Valia' s testimony is true, these people

499
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:09.559
were in full use of their faculties
and at eleven o' clock in the

500
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:15.440
morning something killed them and then comes
the possible theories. What happened to them?

501
00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:20.239
The theory that he killed some spy
or some group of spies because they

502
00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:25.119
saw something inappropriate. One of the
hypotheses that were discussed at that time is

503
00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:30.480
that the young people witnessed some experiment
of something that was being done and saw

504
00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:35.000
something that they shouldn' t have
and that' s why they were killed.

505
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:38.639
It doesn' t make much sense. Precisely in August and those days

506
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:45.159
of August there were many tourists in
this area. It is a place that

507
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:47.360
is visited with a lot of regularity. In August, in the summer,

508
00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:52.599
when there are no classes, campers
go up there because it is a beautiful

509
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:57.800
walk. There were a lot of
people because of it Valia survived because there

510
00:44:57.800 --> 00:45:00.320
were tourists in the river. They
were tourists coming from Ukraine nor were they

511
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:08.480
from the region. Then it is
not ruled out that there would have been

512
00:45:08.599 --> 00:45:13.760
a macabre experiment that killed them hypothermia. That hypothesis, which is the official

513
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:15.360
one, does not have much coherence
either. So he explained something to her

514
00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:22.039
that they ate. There is a
terrible possibility that, during the journey,

515
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:25.599
while they were in the forest area, they would most likely have eaten things

516
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:31.880
from the forest as part of their
training. They had to collect from fungi

517
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:37.599
roots, things that could be eaten, learned, distinguished, prepared, consumed

518
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:42.840
and that would serve as food in
the event of an expedition. It was

519
00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:49.000
a survival practice. However, they
had left the forest long ago, at

520
00:45:49.199 --> 00:45:53.480
least 24 hours outside the forest.
Intake, for example, of a toxic

521
00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:58.480
fungus, affects within two to three
hours. It' s too fast.

522
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:06.199
He would have killed them even the
very night they had eaten that made no

523
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:09.800
sense of contaminated water. Contaminated water
was one of the theories that have been

524
00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:15.440
handled most frequently, and is that
the Bayal Lake on many occasions, during

525
00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:19.360
the tests that are done there,
have been found, let' s say,

526
00:46:21.880 --> 00:46:25.880
high amounts of some toxic substances.
Proof that certain regions of Siberia were

527
00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:32.000
tested from chemical tests, nuclear tests, etc, but did not reach that

528
00:46:32.079 --> 00:46:37.480
point. Proof of that is that
people in kayaks didn' t die.

529
00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:45.079
One of the strongest hypotheses that has
been discussed is that they were exposed to

530
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:53.400
a nerve agent, a neurotoxic gas. And that theory is a very strong

531
00:46:53.480 --> 00:47:00.840
and very interesting theory. You will
see in the 1990s still being part of

532
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:07.679
the Soviet Union in the process of
determining Perestroika and becoming Russia and separating all

533
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:15.559
this. There was still evidence of
certain chemical warfare toxic agents. One of

534
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:20.599
them was Novi Choc Five. I
was in the process of testing. The

535
00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:24.440
Novi Chock had been designed and tested
since the late seventies, but in the

536
00:47:24.920 --> 00:47:29.760
nineties and still up to ninety-
one ninety- two, tests were carried

537
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:34.599
out for the use of Novi chok
five as a toxic agent for nervous people.

538
00:47:36.239 --> 00:47:43.400
The effects of this toxic agent are
terrible, because it inhibits neural connection.

539
00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:49.800
The different agents that make the nerve
connection are inhibited and concentrated in other

540
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:53.599
parts of the body, which causes
people to suffer convulsions delusional hallucinations and,

541
00:47:55.800 --> 00:48:02.280
moreover, as it affects the blood
circulation at the cerebral level, it causes

542
00:48:02.360 --> 00:48:09.880
bleeding by ear, nose and eyes, which hypothermia does not do. But

543
00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:16.480
the novi choc also has a unique
peculiarity. It is water soluble, which

544
00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:22.239
means it can remain in water bodies
for a long time. Their concentration,

545
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:25.639
however, for example, in a
lake or in a river quickly dissipates and

546
00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:30.199
does not become deadly or lethal in
degree, which could be by direct contact.

547
00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:36.960
However, if a test is performed
and the agent remains on the ground,

548
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:43.519
when the rain occurs it dissolves and
when the next day there is the

549
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:49.960
sun evaporates and since it is heavier
that the air remains at ground level in

550
00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:58.159
low areas, the young may have
been exposed to the novi crash accidentally,

551
00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:02.800
of course, there is no one
who says so we were testing Novichak,

552
00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:07.880
but it is known that early in
the early ninety- three, in the

553
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:12.840
middle of Siberian winter, tests were
done in the region. The theory that

554
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:16.760
is currently believed to be more accurate
is that this is not a mysterious case,

555
00:49:16.800 --> 00:49:22.360
it is not a paranormal case,
but a case of human perversity.

556
00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:27.880
The site could have been tested with
some nerve agent, which was trapped in

557
00:49:28.440 --> 00:49:32.679
the snow, dissolved in the water, with the thaw integrated into the ground

558
00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:38.239
and with the rains, the sun
the wind. At the worst moment When

559
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:43.000
it begins to see a little heat, that morning of August 5, nine

560
00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:47.440
hundred and ninety- three, that
begins to come off the ground and immediately

561
00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:53.239
thereafter. These young people walk toward
a bag of this substance that fulminates Sasha.

562
00:49:54.519 --> 00:50:00.239
When Liuda approaches to try to help
him, he sucks the same thing

563
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:04.800
and kills her. When Victoria approaches, she kills her. When Tatiana approaches,

564
00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:09.280
she kills her, Liuda goes to
the front. She' s moved

565
00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:15.400
a little further up and casually passed
through this toxic bag, but the others

566
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:20.519
haven' t. When Luda moves
away, Dennis still receives this substance,

567
00:50:20.760 --> 00:50:24.119
which also begins to evaporate from the
area where Widow is living because the next

568
00:50:24.239 --> 00:50:32.400
day the wind has dispersed. This
is a theory. You can' t

569
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:38.440
just assert a conspiracy theory. What
is a fact is that six young people

570
00:50:40.039 --> 00:50:47.760
are dead in the following years from
whom we have not intentionally revealed. A

571
00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:53.360
complete man, refused to give interviews, changed his home, went to live

572
00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:58.880
in another region terrified by the ghosts
chasing him. The ghosts I mean the

573
00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:02.960
terror, what horror he lived for. Many times they asked him if he

574
00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:08.000
was lying. She did not respond, it would not be, until a

575
00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:13.199
long time later near, to two
thousand eighteen, when she would give an

576
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:15.360
interview where she would narrate that that
was what she saw. She saw that

577
00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:21.079
and described it, but then she
hasn' t given interviews again. He

578
00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:22.239
refuses. He doesn' t want
to know. It doesn' t mean

579
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:27.599
anything. He doesn' t want
to be asked doesn' t want to

580
00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:30.800
live that again They were friends and
they' re dead. Another hypothesis that

581
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:37.440
has been handled is that she suffered
a hallucination. However, it would have

582
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:40.880
been a very rare hallucination and a
person who was exposed to hypothermia, who

583
00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:46.360
was already hallucinating and delirious would hardly
have managed to go to the forest,

584
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:52.000
survive, return, close his eyes, recover supplies, walk for four days,

585
00:51:52.320 --> 00:51:53.599
get to ask for help, etcetera, etcetera. His level of reasoning

586
00:51:53.639 --> 00:52:00.800
was full. I was conscious,
lucid, thinking and acting. Something killed

587
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:20.280
those young people and we most probably
never know the truth. And now,

588
00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:23.719
to disperse the attention and atmosphere a
little bit, I would like to send

589
00:52:24.519 --> 00:52:30.880
some greetings Rosa Pérez and her co- workers, the girls who are always

590
00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:36.159
working. They work at Hollinger Metal
Age in Virginia and listen to us while

591
00:52:36.199 --> 00:52:38.880
they' re working there in the
United States, which we' re very

592
00:52:39.199 --> 00:52:42.000
happy to be able to accompany them
to Nanny Grayer and she' s been

593
00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:44.920
around for years. So we sent
him a big hug to gok upstairs.

594
00:52:45.840 --> 00:52:49.760
She sends many greetings to her children. Unfortunately he hasn' t been able

595
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:52.480
to be with them in a few
days and misses them so much. But

596
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:55.079
everyone sees the show if we take
advantage of it to send a big hug

597
00:52:55.079 --> 00:52:59.199
to everyone. We have them very
much in mind. José Luis Martínez,

598
00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:04.000
who is in Dolores and Hidalgo,
turned out to be just a great congratulations.

599
00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:07.599
José Luis en Dolores Hidalgo is a
very nice place in Guanajuato in Mexico.

600
00:53:07.000 --> 00:53:14.800
We also want to send a hug
to a person who already finds us

601
00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:19.000
among us, already there, an
older man who always fought, who is

602
00:53:19.079 --> 00:53:22.360
reminded with great affection that his children
and his relatives held him in a very

603
00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:28.599
high esteem and that now he is
already in a very quiet place, where

604
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:34.760
he is surely laughing at our stories. Don Cornelio Pedro Guevara, may you

605
00:53:34.760 --> 00:53:38.719
rest in peace. We send his
whole family a hug where they find peace,

606
00:53:38.960 --> 00:53:46.079
the tranquility of comfort and the hope
of meeting again. For Lilly Monster,

607
00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:51.119
Lilly Monster is a follower of the
channel that is always with us,

608
00:53:51.719 --> 00:53:55.280
is always accompanying us and wants to
congratulate and greet very strongly her children Abby

609
00:53:55.320 --> 00:54:00.800
and Abner, who are always with
her accompanying us on the program. Thank

610
00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:04.239
you very much, Lilly. We
send him a big hug and we appreciate

611
00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:07.679
that they are always on the channel
with us talking with all friends. We

612
00:54:07.719 --> 00:54:12.840
would also like to congratulate Mariel Robles
and Juan Carlos, who have been here

613
00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:15.559
for years. Juan Carlos is congratulated
on the part of the workshop in detail

614
00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:22.480
by his friends for a hug.
We also want to congratulate Edith Rodríguez,

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Iras mart Encial Washington, Cedrick Arteaga, Laura Andrea Alfaro García and is Colombian,

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but is in Norway. He hears
us on the hospital guard while he

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' s with the nurses and birthdays. Then it' s a hug to

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all of them. Thank you so
much for joining us. Edrick Iras.

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Thank you so much for being with
us. Congratulations. Moisés Salas congratulates Natalia

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Romero. She is in Santa Cruz
de la Sierra, in Bolivia, on

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the other side of the continent,
and we are very pleased that you can

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accompany us. Notice that father are
so far away in Norway, in Bolivia,

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in the United States. And yet, it unites us with the same

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language, the same language, the
same word, the same way of speaking,

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although sometimes we find noticeable differences such
as having or having and things of

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that style and the words are a
little different, but in the end we

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listen and understand each other, and
that gives us great pleasure. Fernanda Ramírez

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congratulations from her husband, Daniel Ortiz. She was the one who started hearing

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us on the radio. But Daniel
is also listening to us and of course,

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some greetings for Dalia Guevara and her
husband Benjamin Kasasa, who are on

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an anniversary and good that always gives
us pleasure. Martín Diego Baltasar and Silvia

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Mejía, Marco Antonio Otelles and their
wife who are in Tequisquiapan, in Mexico,

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Lucero Hernández Curiel and their husband Mario
Velázquez, who also accompany us together.

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Victor Morales junior and his father,
Victor Morales senior, who accompany us

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on the program and we are very
pleased. They want Vázquez and Antonio Rodríguez,

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who are in El Salvador, Victor
a la Torre and his wife,

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Barbie Margarita Vivanco, always accompany us
and clearly thank us for the donations that

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make us reach through the videos tony
eight eight, eight Silvia Hernández, Raúl

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Jiménez, Adriana Reale the most elves
that is always very present. Patrick Rosas,

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of course, always present hes and
Maite Valdés, Anaís Aragón. Thank

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you very much to all of you
and I would like to comment Look,

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we give many greetings, but we
do not have enough time for all of

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us. Sometimes we feel sorry for
not being able to congratulate people in time,

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not being able to greet everyone is
something we do with great pleasure.

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We have been asked many times how
much we charge to send a greeting,

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not for God, how we will
charge to greet a friend, a person

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who accompanies us. It' s
not just that sometimes so many of us

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get together that it gets a little
bit difficult, but that' s where

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we' re going out slowly with
all the greetings, which gives us great

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pleasure and so we say goodbye to
you tonight wishing you a very good night

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and rest in peace. The O
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