May 1, 2024

Incidente Ovni Manises, avión en riesgo || Relatos del lado oscuro (Podcast)

Incidente Ovni Manises, avión en riesgo || Relatos del lado oscuro (Podcast)

Un avión perseguido por un ovni, asediado y apunto de chocar, tiene que desviar su ruta... ¿será cierto?

Un avión perseguido por un ovni, asediado y apunto de chocar, tiene que desviar su ruta... ¿será cierto?

Conviértete en un seguidor de este podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/relatos-del-lado-oscuro--5421502/support.

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When talking about OMNI, there is
usually someone who has a good explanation.

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And even this is also the case
in academia. When a person in a

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field, for example, university,
comments on something related to the OMNI theme,

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there is always someone who has a
good explanation, perfectly logical, reasonable

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of why it cannot be real.
Most of the time, these explanations,

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which are quite logical, lack something
primary knowledge of the evidence, as well

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as simple lack of knowledge of the
major cases. A very different thing is

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to see some lights at three o' clock in the morning, coming out

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of a party with four or five
liquids inside and seeing some lights in the

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sky for a group of people in
their right mind or aviation professionals to see

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something and report it. The vast
majority of skeptics could not tell which case

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is which or have not thoroughly studied
each case. They haven' t gone

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to the technical reports, which makes
it very difficult to believe them and deny

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the possibility that this is real.
But, moreover, denying the possibility of

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this being real is very dangerous,
because if it is real, they have

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many more elements than we, that
is, visitors. The others, the

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outsiders, are more likely than we
to survive a confrontation. I don'

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t believe it. Stay with me
stories of the dark side for strange beings,

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events, unexplainable stories that other minds
prefer to ignore. The signal.

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On the 11th of November, one
thousand nine hundred and seventy- nine,

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around eight hundred and thirty at night, the alert and rescue service of Madrid,

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Spain, the Spanish capital, begins
to receive a strange signal. The

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signal comes at the emergency frequency,
which is one hundred and twenty- one

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five Mega Hearts, but it'
s an unusual signal. It is a

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sign that could be interpreted as a
maritime SS, but at the same time,

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it is an anomalous signal, because
it does not come in Morse code

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does not have a standard coding for
one thousand nine hundred seventy- nine.

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It lacks a format that can be
interpreted and therefore the teams that should identify

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this signal cannot and the technicians,
when listening to it, listen to a

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series of sounds that cannot be translated
into a message, which is very rare.

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The sound comes more or less from
a location about forty miles north of

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Valencia. Through the triangulation of the
signal, they can locate different listeners can

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locate about forty miles north of Valencia. This signal misses the intermittent signals.

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It' s not very strong.
It' s not, as I say,

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the usual codes. And, in
fact, if it were in a

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regular code, it could have from
a Morse code a European key that in

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nineteen hundred and seventy- nine sent
a series of bips that gave indications about

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who was sending the signal, etc. If it were an emergency beacon,

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for example, a ship that has
shipwrecked and releases its emergency beacon indicating position,

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indicating the name of the vessel,
indicating times, etc. If it

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were a plane, the same thing
would send a signal. But this is

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not so. The concern makes that
at different nearby airports they are contacted by

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the Madrid Rescue service close to this
area asking if they have an emergency.

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Above all, they focus on airports
where there is minor aviation, i e

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planes, helicopters n n n n
NS devices, which would probably not be

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very equipped and would be candidates to
send a signal of this style. But

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none of the airports in the area
has anything to report. You contact the

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nearby ports on the Mediterranean coast and
there is no sign either. There is

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no ship that would have sent an
emergency and the signal, moreover, does

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not correspond to any of this.
There are no loss reports, no emergency

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reports, and yet, periodically,
it' s ice. This rare signal

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rescue people contact flight control and flight
control contact in turn with aircraft in transit.

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The Iberia five hundred fifty- eight, the Iberia flight five hundred fifty

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- eight and the Iberia flight two
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At that time they contact them to
ask if they have picked up any

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anomalous signals. The first, ib
N five five eight, reports having heard

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nothing. However, Iberia' s
two- thirty- one claims to have

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listened to that signal to which they
refer for a while. Before. Precisely,

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both planes were on a route that
crossed near the point that was marked

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forty miles north of Valencia. The
signal as such represented nothing, but it

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was strange. I had a frequency, I had a certain intention. It

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wasn' t a regular interference.
It was not, for example, the

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interference caused by a new cell phone
antenna that has just been put into operation

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or the rays coming from a solar
explosion. No. No, no,

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this was a sign with an intention
only that it wasn' t coded.

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It was checked, of course,
it was Czech, it was sent to

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the military authorities to check it to
see if they knew. Perhaps it was

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a sign, for example, of
the Soviet bloc, the superpeetic block,

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the iron curtain, all those countries
had some different codes, but that was

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not the case. It didn'
t match anything. And this was more

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worrying because there were no U S
military aircraft in the area in the search

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of ships and aircraft. At that
time, it should be noted that Spain

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had an agreement with the United States, a military agreement and aircraft from an

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American air base. There were boats
in the Mediterranean, in Spanish territorial waters,

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both in the Mediterranean and in the
Galician Sea, throughout this region.

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That' s right, they contact
them, but it' s not their

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signal. After this, the signal
is still listening to the flight. While

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this whole matter of the abnormal signal
is happening a flight of air work and

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links a Spanish aviation company is in
transit from Salzburg, in Austria, towards

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Tenerife. It is a flight of
tourists 100 and peak of tourists on board,

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mainly Austrians and Germans. The flight
is leaving Salzburg. So he plays

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track on Mallorca, on the island
of Mallorca, in Palma de Mallorca,

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in the middle of the Mediterranean.
Spanish lands there to refuel a required scale.

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The captain on board is Francisco Javier
Lerdo de Tejada, a young man,

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thirty- four years old. His
co- pilot is Ramón Suazu and

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they also carry an aviation mechanic who
acts as a kind of flight engineer,

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Francisco Rodríguez. The flight has been
impeccable and is that the captain, even

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when he is young, has about
eight zero hours of flight and has quite

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experience in this precise plane. It' s a super carabel, it'

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s a French plane they liked a
lot. The Carabel is a birector.

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It' s a little plane that
has two engines in the back. It

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is not supersonic, much less,
but it is a fairly reliable plane,

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although it is to be noted it
has no technological apparatus like those of today.

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It was a plane that flew with
the knowledge and ability of the pilots,

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so the pilots used to be quite
capable people. The aircraft normally arrived

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in Palma de Mallorca, fuel fuel. The passage descends, cools a little,

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re- boards and prepares for takeoff. Minutes later around eleven o'

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clock in the night, the TAE
two hundred ninety- seven, as was

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the nomenclature of this flight, takes
track and takes off again, an impeccable

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take- off without any problems.
The captain in line of the plane.

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The route, as you can see
on the map right now, is a

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route that crosses from Salzburg through Europe, reaches the Mediterranean, arrives Palma de

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Mallorca and, after Palma de Mallorca, crosses towards the South Atlantic, crossing

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Spanish territory and then exiting the Ocean
and arriving in Tenerife. It is a

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route that in nineteen hundred and seventy- nine and at eleven o' clock

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at night is not particularly traveled by
any other flight. Captain weaving fart.

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A few minutes later he' s
lifting the plane to about twenty- five

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zero feet reporting to flight control without
novelty. Taking advantage of the flight control

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issue, contact Captain Lerdo de Tejada
of the TIE two ninety- seven to

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ask him if he could attempt to
locate the strange signal. Just Lerdo says

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yes. His co- pilot Suazo
moves the radio controls and locates the frequency

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one hundred and twenty- one five
and at first they hear nothing. However,

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just a few moments later, the
TAE two ninety- seven would correct

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that by ensuring that they are capturing
the strange signal. So far, you

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' ll think wow what an awesome
thing, a sign you don' t

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know what' s quiet all about. The fact is that, in mid

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- flight, Captain Lerdo de Tejada
and his co- pilot Suazu manage to

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locate that strange signal and, in
fact, just like the flight controllers and

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like the rescue people of Madrid,
they fail to identify what it is about.

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The way it is transmitted would correspond
to an emergency beacon of some sort,

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but at the same time, the
message does not exist, there is

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no such, there is no logic, it is unintelligible, it cannot be

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identified. As they continue to advance
on their route at twenty- five thousand

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feet high, the signal suddenly becomes
much stronger, much stronger, to which

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both pilots of the plane report that
the signal is intensifying, not knowing that

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minutes later things could become very tense. The flight TAE two ninety- seven

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is twenty- five thousand feet high, in the night are eleven and a

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quarter or eleven and twenty of the
night, more or less it is flying

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over an area of sea between Palma
de Mallorca and Spanish mainland territory. When

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they suddenly decide to turn off the
cabin lights to see if they can locate

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something that catches their attention at that
instant where they are, they can see

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the distance, the coast lights and
they can give better data. They turn

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off the lights inside the flight cabin, look around to see what there is

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if they can distinguish something. And
that' s when suddenly the flight engineer,

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as he gets out of his seat
to have a little eye, informs

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the captain. Captain, there'
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high- intensity red lights. They' re on the left side a little

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behind. But very soon they stop
being in the back and are a little

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ahead of the left side. The
captain does not hesitate to contact flight control

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and ask if there is traffic near
him. Flight control responds no. To

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what he insists. There are some
lights that are located at our ten hours,

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about the same altitude on the left
side. Flight control insists there'

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s no traffic in the air.
The captain radiates again saying there are two

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intense red lights, flying at our
height, at our same speed on the

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left side, at ten hours.
Please check. They' re between three

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and five miles. Captain, you' re flying alone. Persecution. After

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hearing that the captain is flying alone, obviously, there is a slightly unpleasant

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feeling in the cabin. If flight
control doesn' t have anyone else in

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the air, what are those lights
that are there? The three cabin crew

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have been watching them, but not
only them, but also from the passenger

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flight cabin, one of the flight
girls, one of the stewardesses, has

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also seen through the window these strange
lights that are at the same height of

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the plane. So there is a
growing nervousness of new account. The captain

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re- contacts flight control in and
insists on telling him traffic and is approaching

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again. You are informed Captain you
are alone as an evasive action. The

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Lerdo de tejada captain decides to increase
the height of the plane, to rise

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to flight level twenty- eight thousand, that is, to raise the plane

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about three thousand feet. He tries
to do this, but he realizes a

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problem. Not only do the lights
go up, but they go up a

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lot faster than he does, and
they' re at a higher flight level,

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as if they' ve heard exactly
what Captain Lerdo is saying, weaving

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through the radio. The problem is, when it gets to that flight level,

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the lights are already there and now
they' re very close. The

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TAE two ninety- seven is not
a plane that can do great maneuvers.

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It' s a device designed for
a comfortable flight, so it' s

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not an acrobatic plane. He can' t turn and do stings. It

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doesn' t have that capacity.
I would put the aircraft at risk,

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so nervously insist again, please check
who' s here with us at that

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time. Flight control tries to contact
other airports in the area first, but

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there is nothing. Barcelona, one
of the airports or flight controls it contacts

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reports that they don' t know
what it' s about, they don

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' t have anything on their radars. Flight control then changes and enters the

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primary radar, but its primary radar
is a simple radar, it has nothing.

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There they are blank. When they
contact the nearest military base, it

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reports that they don' t have
anything either. However, ignorant of other

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aspects, those report to the shingle
captain that they do not have anything in

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flight. However, the famous sticker, air army flight control and military control

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in Benydorm, with a powerful radar
Yes you have it only that no one

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has told you, while Captain Lerdo
of Tejada is arguing whether or not there

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is anything and trying to contact a
Spartax who is flying over there to ask

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them if they see anything in Venidorm, with the powerful radar over there,

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which is a primary radar with discrimination
and with a lot of new sensors.

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You' re looking at Captain Lerdo
de Tejada' s blip and the TAE

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two ninety- seven and you'
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as close as half a mile and
that are there are objects, they

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' re real, they' re
physical. There' s something that'

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s litate stepping on Captain Lerdo de
Tejada' s tail and on the flight

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bringing two ninety- seven to twenty- eight thousand feet high over the Mediterranean.

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The nervousness on board the cabin becomes
evident even though they still don'

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t know how sticky they are seeing
that on their screens. They are seeing

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it very, very close and suddenly
they are no longer where they believed,

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but now there is one in front, there is one on one side and

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there is another beyond. The lights
have changed position dangerously close, dangerously close.

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It' s hard not to feel
nervous when something' s spinning around

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you and nobody knows what it is
but besides, they do it with amazing

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speed. Suddenly they' re in
this position. Suddenly they change like there

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' s nothing, like there'
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no strength, like nothing? They
simply change move up they go down around

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that plane that slowly advances in the
middle of the sky and in the middle

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of the night, flight control asks
the captain if he feels in need of

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a interceptor to take off, if
the situation is there and if he requires

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a military fighter plane to reach him
to escort him. The captain says yes,

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they do. You don' t
know what it is but you need

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it, only there' s a
time problem. According to what the captain

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is seeing from the cabin, as
well as his co- pilot, Suazu

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and his onboard mechanic, that is
getting more complicated every moment, so suddenly

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the captain reports to flight control.
I' m heading to Valencia, Valencia

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route change point Prepare me to go
to Valencia, just like without many technical

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languages, without many terms, with
an obvious nervousness and a shortened voice.

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It is being reported, on the
one hand, that the damn sign of

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the one hundred and twenty- one
five has become very intense and, on

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the other hand, that those lights
that are literally escorting him do not leave

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him alone, so it is without
further turning and heading towards Valencia. Manises

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Airport is the most convenient airport so
you decide to head there. It'

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s not just going to change the
route anymore, it' s going to

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land, it' s going to
land. Such is the nervousness that is

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invading them that they decide to land. But there is a problem, and

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the problem is that the plane had
fuel to get to Tenerife. So,

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I just took off a few minutes
earlier. It' s full of fuel.

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He can' t land would have
an excessive weight that wouldn' t

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allow him to take a lead.
Surely you need to fly over Manises airport

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using fuel until you reach the maximum
landing weight and those objects, those objects,

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whatever, are there and are accompanying
you. When they transfer flight control

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with control tower Manises starts to grow
a nervousness because control tower is seeing flight

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TAE two ninety- seven, but
it is also seeing its companions. It

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' s such a tense moment that
the captain is constantly asking you see them

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They' re there, they see
them, and the report is even more

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frightening because they' re seeing them, but they' re not just the

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plane' s own crew. Right
now they' re being seen in a

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control tower and when the rumor spreads, different employees begin to leave the airport,

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both the military, which is a
little ahead, and the civilian and

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the witnesses observe that. Upon the
arrival of flight two ninety- seven,

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the alarm is declared. The flight
has changed its route and is heading at

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full speed with full fuel load with
many problems. This alarm immediately causes the

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airport director to leave the dinner he
was having at the airport restaurant and head

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to the runway to observe the movements
and preparations. When he is there he

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realizes that many of the people who
work at the airport, technical mechanics,

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are seeing the sky and in the
sky are distinguishing large red spheres that suddenly

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change from red to white and suddenly
change to green. No, don'

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t kid yourself. They' re
not aviation lights from some ship in mid

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- flight. They are very large
and of great intensity, in addition to

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changing height. When they bring you
binoculars, you can see them with binoculars

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through the radio. Question Tower of
Control, they' re watching it and

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Tower of Control responds. We'
re looking at some lights. Mr Director,

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there' s something in heaven.
The director rides in a van that

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takes him to military service where the
military module is. Upon arrival he meets

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the commander of the garrison of the
air army, who is standing outside with

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huge binoculars. Seeing that with the
eyes of a very surprising dish because about

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twenty soldiers, all of them belonging
to the army of the air are seeing

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the same thing. The strange lights
that come and go that suddenly move away

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and suddenly approach. Don' t
tell me they' re planets, there

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' s no way they were.
At the same time, the two ninety

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- seven is spinning around the airport
with a growing nervousness, because that thing

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is getting closer and closer. At
a certain point, the Lerdo captain of

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Tejada decides it' s over and
lands. When they manage to touch track,

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they land gently, they manage to
roll to the platform. When they

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stop the plane and descend, there' s a livid look on his face.

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It would take them a long time
to make up the plane' s

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own staff, the cabin people,
the passengers, the supercharge, etc.

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They all have this same nervousness.
What was going to be a very quiet

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flight to Tenerife in the middle of
the night. Now it' s become

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crazy. The sky was calm,
the wind was calm, there were no

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adverse conditions. Everything was perfect for
a perfect flight, except for this thing

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that chased them. But when they
touch track and get to the platform and

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look up, those are still there
after the days. A massive investigation would

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be organized that would interview the pilot, the co- pilot, the mechanic,

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the supercharge that saw the things to
another of the supercharges, the ground

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personnel of the airport, the control
tower personnel, the military personnel that saw

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it, and an impressive file would
be assembled about thirty people who would be

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considered category A. As for the
investigation of the OMNI phenomenon, that is,

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people used to seeing the sky,
used to identifying airplanes, used to

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handling detection devices. They could not
explain what they saw, but what few

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knew at that moment was that the
request of the weaving captain for an interceptor

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was already given. Yes, let
me explain the mirah when all this is

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happening and from sticky they detect that
the TAE flight two hundred ninety- seven

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is escorted by these strange objects,
whose radar echo cannot identify except as something

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solid. The head of that control, of that center, together with the

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air army personnel, order the take- off of an interceptor. An interceptor

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is a supersonic plane, heavily armed, modern and very equipped. It'

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s a dassolt mirage f one for
the time was a great plane. On

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board it is located in Captain Fernando
Cámara. They haven' t exactly told

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you he' s after you.
They have only told him to fly to

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Valencia leaving the airfield of the plains, from the military base of the plains,

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flying to Valencia. It' s
a relatively short flight for an airplane

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that reaches supersonic speeds. However,
to be unclear what the mission is flies

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at about a thousand kilometers per hour. While this happens with the takeoff of

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the lookout about the same time the
captain was reporting what he saw. It

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' s an interesting sequence of events
because the TAE pilot two ninety- seven

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doesn' t know that the glue
radar has detected the objects. Flight control

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people don' t know they'
ve been detected and they don' t

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know they' ve cleared a target. The fact is that Captain Fernando Cámara,

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who would later become a colonel in
the Air Force, moves about a

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thousand kilometers per hour in search of
those strange echoes. But very soon he

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begins to realize that something is not
quite right and he will see why as

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he communicates with his own flight control, military control. He realizes there'

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s a totally anomalous interference. When
he stops speaking through the race microphone,

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a very rare interference enters, a
series of sounds, clicks, very rare

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blips, as if there was a
communication, But it is a communication that

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he does not understand, that he
cannot identify, But at times it seems

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to block his radio system, but
just press the microphone, the signal gives

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no longer listening, but the signal
is transferred to control. So when he

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presses the microphone to talk or opens
the microphone to talk and says nothing,

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the ones who listen to it are
the control ones, but neither can they

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identify what it is about. And
the signal is very strong. As you

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keep flying in the direction. He
was valent. The signal is intensifying,

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but the problem is not only that. The real problem occurs when suddenly all

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the alarms on the plane are threat
detection alarms. This device had a series

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of sensors that detected any threat.
For example, if you are going to

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be shot by a radar- directed
missile immediately from or your plane has been

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located and is at risk. The
same thing, if there' s an

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infrared missile you' ve been sent, it detects that there' s an

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infrared in flight and it' s
protected. The problem is he doesn'

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t know who caught it and he
doesn' t know what the hell'

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s going on, because he doesn' t see anything and even when he

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has a little radar inside the cockpit, he doesn' t detect anything.

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When he talks to his flight control, they tell him there' s nothing,

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they don' t know what it
is and he keeps flying. The

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concern grows because while he captain,
Chamber is flying over a kind of triangle

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that forms between the Mediterranean, Valencia
and Palma de Mallorca. Out there the

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APR two hundred ninety- seven is
also in the air, but he doesn

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' t know it. The people
on the commercial plane don' t know.

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Captain Camera is spinning when suddenly he
also looks at the lights. Look

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at the lights, the lights that
were also seeing the people on the ground

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who had seen the commercial flight pilots. Everyone' s fine being this and

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the radar glued the devenirm, the
powerful one is detecting everything. The captain

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speeds up his plane to full power. He' s ready, of course

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he' s ready. He'
s a very old, very combative pilot.

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So it accelerates all its power to
reach those lights. But the more

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he tries to reach them, the
more that progresses. It' s a

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game of cat and mouse, because
suddenly that' s behind it. These

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bliebs these echoes of threat. These
warning signals locate where the threat comes from,

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and suddenly the threat is pointing it
through the front, through the nose

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of the plane, but suddenly it' s behind. He' s changed

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his position, even though the captain
hasn' t changed. This is a

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very rare game, because they have
it all over them flanked as if there

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were several enemy planes trying to bring
it down. It' s a very

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tense moment. The captain makes several
evasive maneuvers, turns the plane, moves

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until he finally locates in front of
one of these red spheres of an intense

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red of great size and approaches when
he approaches a little, The only thing

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that can distinguish is that that is
not a sphere. The object that is

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emitting intense red light is a physical
object with a cup shape as if it

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were a kind of triangle. A
cone that' s flying is too big.

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It must be in the largest diameter
about 200 meters. It' s

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something you can' t explain.
He doesn' t know what it is.

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He' s trying to get closer
so he can record it with the

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onboard camera, but he can'
t do it. That simply departs already

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after about an hour and a quarter, an hour and twenty of being in

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the air, the plane begins to
be scarce of fuel and is ordered to

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return to the plains and take track. Persecution has been absolutely fruitless. He

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hasn' t even gotten close and
those are still there. It would take

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a while for them to disappear when
Captain Camera touches track immediately writes a report

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of what he has seen. This
report would be incorporated into the general report

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of the Air Army along with all
the testimonies, but they have no response

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to the military report. Of course
the air army would gather all this into

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a huge file, a file of
about three hundred and twenty sheets, which

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included the testimonies of the different pilots
involved, the testimonies of the ground personnel,

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both military and civilian, the people
of the camer, the readings of

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the radar, transcripts, recordings of
the flight booths, recordings of the communications

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of the different involved, all in
a very extensive report that would be classified

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over the next fifteen years. It
would be shared through specific channels with the

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French army, with the French area
force, to make them aware of this,

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since the plane involved was of French
origin. However, the report would

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not be made more aware of this. However, even when it was not

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made public, they would give a
statement. The statement would be blunt and

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would ensure that there was no obni
there that it had all been a confusion.

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Yes, as you imagine, a
simple confusion. When he wondered what

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he had been confused with. This
was assured, within the panel of experts,

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that it had been a sighting of
planets and that, obviously, they

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had been confused believing that the planets
had movement. It was also said that

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it could have been the lights of
an oil facility that would refine the slag,

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the scraps that could have been a
whole confusion and a point. The

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report, as I say, would
remain classified for fifteen years, but in

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itself the report does not seem to
consider many things, although it is a

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very extensive report. Several parts of
the report that was released are not the

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direct report of Captain Chamber, there
is not Venidorm' s report, it

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is not. Nor is there another
report of the military who were on the

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ground at the time. It'
s strange, but what was released doesn

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' t add up to anything either. As for the press. The press

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would show this. The press would
be responsible for spreading tremendous notes, some

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of them very striking, as planes
forced by the omnis to land were about

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to be shot down by the omnis. Omnis take the sky and almost throw

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a plane and stuff like that.
The press report had a very peculiar feature.

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Yes, the classic feature of any
omni report presented the subject as ridiculous.

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Even when they flaunted this, even
when they talked a lot about it.

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The reality is that I was going
with a very clear tendency to present

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witnesses as incapable, as fanciful,
as confused. Even the shingle captain was

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pointed out as a young man with
some personal problems at home and who was

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under a lot of stress from a
personal situation. I do not know to

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what extent a personal situation would have
led a captain to descend with all that

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this implies the cost for the company
was enormous to get a plane down ahead

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of time, as to use fuel
without need. All this affected the cost

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of that flight and, of course, this captain put at risk his prestige,

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his name, his pt below.
Something wasn' t ingenuity. The

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captain might have had some personal stress, but the first to see the lights

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was the onboard mechanic. The second
was Suazu, the co- pilot,

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so he was not imposing anywhere.
The conclusions, as you can imagine,

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were forceful. On the one hand, when some specialists in aeronautics were consulted,

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it was said that everything had been
a painful confusion and that the TAE

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pilots two hundred and ninety- seven
had thought that those lights, which were

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actually the burners of the scrappers,
were flying saucers. The burners of the

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rotters are yellow, not red.
Second, there were some specialists in physical

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and meteorological phenomena who claimed that it
was a morgan fata, a mirage.

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A mirage does not occur at that
height and at night there was a problem

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with that. Of course, no
one bothered to know what it was.

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Then to explain the mysterious radar echoes, it was assured that it was a

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thermal investment refraction and that the Benidorm
radar, the very powerful filming of Benidorm,

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had confused the signals and that some
inexperienced operators had interpreted that as metallic,

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when in reality it was simply something
meteorological. It should be noted that

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Benidon' s radar was the centrepiece
of the entire early detection system. The

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technicians who operated it weren' t
the classics that were making the milli were

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specialized technicians. They were people who
had a future in military service. He

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wasn' t a temp. They
had been trained by the American armed forces

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under an aid program. This wasn' t bouncing anywhere. Now, as

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for the other thing, there was
a specialist who said no. This was

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the work of the Americans. The
US military had participated in a military exercise

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in the area a short time ago, an exercise in which Spanish aircraft had

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to attack an American aircraft carrier that
used blocking technology to neutralize its radars,

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neutralize its radios, prevent them from
attacking it. This was different, very

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different. But above all it became
more different when they contacted the US Strategic

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Command in the Mediterranean region and in
the region of the Spanish coast and replied

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that they did not have any apparatus
in flight, no ship in that area

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at that time, nor were they
doing any military exercise and that, therefore,

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that was not theirs. So there
were a lot of questions left.

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Some time later, when the Captain
Chamber was interviewed lying colonel of the Air

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State Army s NS, he joyfully
put saying," My God, I

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have flown thousands of times over the
refinery of the scavengers and those lights are

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not what I saw that night"
I didn' t even have the slightest

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resemblance to the burners in the scavengers. So, at the end of the

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day, the Omni Manises incident,
as it is known, was a flying

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demonstration of the mightiness of these artifacts, whatever they may have come from.

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They were there and they were playing
cat and mouse with a plane loaded with

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passengers in the middle of the night. It is clear that if they had

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wanted to bring him down, they
would have had no problem. They were

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affecting the fighter plane electronics. It' s obvious they knew it was a

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fighter plane. They knew that this
device would try somehow to approach. So

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his technology was blocked far above what
human devices could have. So, starting

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from this information and collecting all the
data that has been lost. That is

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where we face a case in which
ordinary explanations as planets, refraction in the

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atmosphere by a tármic reversal, fata, morgana, of course, burners,

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etcetera. It doesn' t make
sense. And if we listen to the

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Central American Agency' s classification manual, the CIA, this is an incident

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of the highest hierarchy. Pilots,
combat pilots, radar operators, flight control

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operators, ground personnel, airport personnel, aviation personnel, all saw the same

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thing at the same time on the
same night, without communicating with each other.

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That' s a bigger case.
That is why you have perhaps been

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denied so many times. What do
you think and now without s NS allows

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it, what do you think if
we send some greetings and congratulations. A

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congratulations first, that nothing very special, is a birthday congratulations to Eduardo Sabugal

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Machadén, writer, friend of this
program, a person who has accompanied us

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throughout the years always and that birthday. So there' s going to be

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a big hug from the whole team, a thank you for so many years

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of being with us. Happy birthday
and then another important birthday for us.

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Birthday Mr Jesús Rosas, October 22nd
birthday. We send him a great congratulations

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because the next day, 23rd October, doctor' s day, and it

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turns out that he is a doctor, but not only does he turn out

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to be a doctor, but it
turns out that he is Patrick Rosas'

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dad for all of us who are
on this show, we know who Patrick

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Rosas is, a friend of the
channel who is always on the chat,

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who is always talking with the group
of friends who come every night to participate,

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a great friend of this channel,
so we are very happy to congratulate

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Jesus Rosas his dad, both on
his birthday for the doctor' s day,

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a hug until now. Thank you
very much and good we will continue

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with some greetings. Manuel Carlos Teón
greets his mother Amanda or Chea a strong

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hug over there. Then we have
some important congratulations here for Eddi Gastón Alvarado,

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for our dear Teresa Honda, who
listens to us far away in Japan,

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in the Land of the Emerging Sun, a pleasure to be able to

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congratulate Teresa Honda, even if she
is a little late for her healthy Hidalgo,

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for Beatriz Martínez and her daughter Paula
Isabela, we send a strong hug

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to both of them. We also
want to send a hug to Emmanuel,

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from his mom Norma Ramírez, a
hug to both of them. Thank you

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Itzel Daniela from her mother Alejandra,
contreras who congratulates her on her birthday Nailea

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her mother Juani Mesa congratulates her very
much for Abdiel her mother, He and

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Morales congratulates her very much, Sebastian. Sebastian is congratulated by his grandmother,

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María Medina Rodríguez. So it'
s fine and we send a big hug

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to you all thank you so much
for always accompanying us. Eva, Margarita

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Martínez Maruvilla Vicencio sends her to congratulate
César Gerock Valdés from Lidia Masis, who

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also sends her a very strong hug. Thank you so much for all those

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hugs and greetings. And now,
if I may, we' re going

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to send a few greetings to Jose
Quesada and his wife Laura Adorantes, who

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are in Idaho, in the United
States. JavierÁvila Pérez, he'

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s in Guadalajara. A hug,
Javier, thank you for joining us.

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Adriana ortiz Mena, she' s
a pediatrician who listens to us on the

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hospital night shift. Oh, shit. It must be very exciting and we

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will always be grateful to the doctors
for their efforts. They are very valuable

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and clear Alejandro Macial and his sons, Johan, Daniel and Tadeo, who

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listen to us all together. We' re really excited about that. Benjamin

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Zamora Villarreal and his mother, who
listen together to Idea Costa Cortés and his

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son, Andrés Jiménez, who are
in San Andrés, Tuxtla in Veracruz,

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in a beautiful, hot tropical place. Beautiful is a lovely place San Andrés.

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Héctor Estrada and Karen Maya, Ida
Cero XV and their husband Raúl,

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who listen to us in Chicago,
ILLINOI in the United States, mimí Loredo

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who is in Monterrey, in the
north of the Mexican Republic, Edwin Valdés,

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who accompanies us from Naucalpan, in
the State of Mexico, Silvana Montenegro,

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and Claudio Berton Soto, who are
in Córdoba, Argentina, to the

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other end of the world. Thank
you very much to all of them.

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And all of you for joining us
last night. We thank you very much

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for your presence, good night and
rest in peace. O n r