Puertas a otros mundos

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For everyone, as it is there. My name is Juan Jesús Vallejos and

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journalist, writer and director of the
Mystery Night program on Caracol Radio. A

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command a greeting from the city of
Fez, the Medina, which has more

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than eight thousand alleyways like this the
largest maze that has been built on the

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face of the earth. The ancient
shamans made contact with their gods places that

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were considered sacred, and then,
in these sacred places they made monuments to

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contact them, to be closer to
the divinity. For example, pyramids were

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made on the Giza plateau. For
example, on Easter Island Moay statues were

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built that looked at the sky or
unique natural landscapes, such as the Atacama

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desert in Chile, where geoglyphs were
left, which also marked those encounters with

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the divine. And in those encounters
with the divine, strange lights always appeared.

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Today we call them Omnis. But
if you want to know about this

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and much more, do not miss
the last podcast reported Mystery on Caracol Radio

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doors to another world always the way
through its corridors. I have the same

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feeling that I' m in a
place that' s a door to another

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world. I am referring to the
temple of Avidos in Egypt, the temple

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of Setti, First, the temple
that was made right in the place where,

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according to Egyptian tradition, the very
head of the god Osiris appeared,

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at a time when men and gods
walked together on the earth and there a

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temple was erected full of mystery and
one of the things that most troubles me

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is that it has several rooms with
stone doors that give to nothing. They

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just heard me well, stone doors
that give to nothing and in each of

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those doors the name of a different
god. For example, there is one

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that is consecrated to God Orus,
to the hawk- headed warrior God,

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and there the Egyptians performed rituals to
get in direct contact with those ancient and

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mysterious Gods a place that was key
to the ancient pilgrimages in Egypt, as

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the inhabitants of the banks of the
Nile were convinced that from the temple of

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Avidos one could speak to the gods. It was the place that opened the

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pras door to the duat beyond the
world where the beings of light who lived

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on earth live. And, in
particular, the first one to appear who

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opened the doors to you to the
beyond was the god Osiris and the temple

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of Avidos was and is the House
of Osiris. And when you' re

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there you think it was just religion
and it was just prayers. Or it

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really was something else. The temple
of Avidos was and is, although we

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do not know how to use it, an interdimensional portal, a portal that

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opens the doors to other worlds and
is not only the Temple of Avidos worldwide.

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There are many more. In Egypt, a key place, what for

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many is the tomb of Pharaoh who
observe that for me it is not.

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It' s funny the great pyramid
of Giza. After the studies a Russian

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university did it prove to be an
electromagnetic capacitor? For what did the ancient

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Egyptians make a stone mole as much
as one hundred and thirty- seven meters

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which today has one hundred and forty- six in its original form, to

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be an electromagnetic condenser. And I
say, this kind of places, these

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places, this place is no other
point than a phone to talk to the

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gods, places besides that have been
marked in ancient traditions, as, for

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example, is the case of Stoneheinge
in England, the place where the druids

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spoke to the sun and thousands of
people flocked there in the equinoxes and in

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the solstices to see how sacred men, how the shamans were able to speak

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to the stars. For me an
ancient knowledge that today has been lost and

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in many of these places also a
constant appearance of strange lights in the sky,

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as if they were the vehicles of
the gods that come here to earth,

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on horseback between legend and reality.
But an unquestionable fact, sacred places

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for the ancient cultures that many have
taken and sacred men took 100 percent as

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interdimensional doors, as a space from
which we can speak with divinity, with

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gods, with the sun, with
those strange gods that dwell in the stars.

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My name is Juan Jesús Vallejo.
What you want to follow me on

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on Instagram, on Facebook Juan Jesús
Vallejo. And this is another mystery night

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show. And here what we do
is mystery journalism. We put the facts

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on the table and you decide what' s behind it and what' s

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not. What do you think of
these places were really portals to another dimension.

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They were phones to talk to the
gods, phones we can no longer

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use today. I' d like
to see your opinion with the numeral mystery

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Caracol. You know I' m
doing an author' s trip. From

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22 September to 1 October this year. I will be making a trip to

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Egypt, to the Nile Country,
to walk by the pyramids and marvel at

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its mystery and be happy to live
the magic of sailing the Nile, visiting

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some of the most enigmatic temples in
the world. All the information on that

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trip to Egypt. You have it
on the website. Three Trips Juan Jesús

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Vallejo com I repeat, Three Trips
Juan Jesús Vallejo com and we start without

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further delay. Alejandro Bernal, partner
friend, how you' re doing so

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well. Juange a greeting to you
also for all those who consume this content

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through the podcast that we publish on
the YouTube channel of Caracol Radio. While

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you were talking in the introduction Juange
about these interdimensional portals. I believe that

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there is no culture in ancient times
and in the history of our world that

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has had a greater connection with another
reality, as was Egyptian culture. John

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Gel temple of avid these great portents, this connection that the Egyptians had with

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orion, that way of representing their
gods, their way of regulating themselves with

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the beyond in their temples, in
their monuments, something wonderful and in this

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opportunity we will make a tour through
different continents, in different places in the

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world, to analyze various dimensional portals, in this case, together with an

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expert like Ricardo González Corpacho and if
you like my work, I invite you

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to subscribe to my YouTube channel.
Mandragora Misterius Mandragora Mysteries on YouTube. Indeed,

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friends, we have Ricardo González and
what you have said is super important.

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Then we' ll comment on the
interview. But, indeed, the

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three pyramids of the Guitza Plateau represent
the belt of orion on earth, that

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is, they represented three stars directly
here and it may be chance it can

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be a religious theme, because they
represented those stars the dual of the world

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in which the gods lived, in
the afterlife or at best. It is

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because of some question that today we
do not know, but yes or yes,

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a great mystery. Egypt is a
very special country and I assure you

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that the magic of those ancient gods
is felt when you touch the stones of

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the temples, that there is on
the banks of the Nile and as you

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have said, we have a good
friend the second time we have him here

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to Ricardo González Corpancho, researcher,
writer and interview with Ricardo González Corpancho starts.

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Thus, I do not know why
there are places that are marked from

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eternity, places that for ancient cultures
were no more or less than places where

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the ancient gods lived, places where
shamans and sacred men were to come into

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contact with the hereafter. If we
go, for example, to ancient Egypt,

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we have priests who, in very
specific places, as is, for

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example, the temple of amun Ra, Insigua, said they were able right

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there to talk to the Neteru.
The neterus would be the spirits of the

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cosmic gods who were always accompanying us
and do not ask me why I had

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to be insecurities and not elsewhere.
Thus, even there was Alexander the Great

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himself to crown himself as Pharaoh of
Egypt. And it' s funny that

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a lot of these places, not
to say directly at all. In addition,

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strange phenomena are seen that have to
do with light spheres of light or

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lights in the sky, where it
seems that the very gods are winking at

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us from the stars. But the
one who knows a lot more than I

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do about these kinds of places that
many call places of contact, of strong

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interventional. In our good friend who
interviewed a couple of months ago, Ricardo

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González Corpancho, who has a book
that is called contact places, a book

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that you can get through Amazon here
in all of Latin America, a super

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recommended book where he tells us his
research and personal experiences in different places on

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the planet. Ricardo González Corpancho,
thank you so much again for being part

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of Mystery Night Hi Jo Jesús Hi
Ale. Thank you very much for the

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kind invitation Hey Ricardo in the other
program that, well, at this time

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will already have enough of four hundred
zero reproductions. The other program you did

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with us told us about your personal
experiences of contact from a very young age

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and how that pushes you to change
your life and in this case, in

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addition, this book in places of
contact, to run the world. When

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the restlessness arose in you describe this
book and why, well that book I

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published it with Lucian editions of the
Planet Group in the year two thousand eighteen,

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when at that time I fulfilled about
twenty- five years of these journeys,

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of these trips, of these investigations, when everything had started in my

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country of origin, in Peru,
as I told them in the previous interview,

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following the observation of these anomalous objects
my country and the investigations that I

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began to carry out in this regard, not only my own experience as a

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witness of contact, but also examining
the testimony of other people who led me

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to travel to the Andes, to
the Amazon rainforest, to isolated places where

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we knew I was producing many testimonies
that did not always come to light.

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Then there I discovered that many times
this phenomenon, whatever its nature, seemed

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to repeat itself in certain special points
of Peru, these sacred places that my

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ancestors called huacas sanctuaries special. And, obviously, when I was traveling to

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other countries, first invited for congresses, defology or conferences, I took the

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opportunity to stay a few more days
and travel to other similar points where the

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phenomenon was reported and coincided, like
Peru, with myths legends, magical places,

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full of mystery that were succeeding in
oral traditions, in the comments of

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people who always happened something there.
Then one thing took me to the other

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and I walked many places, not
only the known and wonderful, as we

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could now speak here you make an
excellent reference to the mysteries of Egypt.

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We could talk about Montejasta, Cusco
and so many other enclaves, but we

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also traveled to other less known points, even some very dangerous, which,

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although they had a very important mystery
fame, it was not easy to go

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to them, such as the snoring
saw or the cave of the stems,

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to mention two concrete cases. I
did not convince myself that places of contact

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are very important, very important sometimes
as important or more important than the same

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phenomenon that occurs there. And the
good thing you' ve done isn'

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t just going to the places.
It is the historical research you have done

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of the same, apart from collecting
testimony or your own experiences. If you

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want, we' re gonna go
well, it' s not gonna give

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you time on the show or do
half. I' m telling you,

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it' s okay, but in
other months, I' ll be bothering

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you again until one day you send
me to the joint and you don'

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t pick up my phone. I' m not worrying you. Don'

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t worry Ricardo the cuzco in Quechua
means the navel. They tell us the

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ancient traditions that came out of four
brothers from somewhere in the completely unknown Andes,

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and one of them, manco Cápac, threw a golden javelin so that

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where he fell to create his empire
and fell to a very concrete point,

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besides the Cuzco, which is a
temple where one connects with the sun,

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which is the coricancha. From that
coricanchas, for the Incas there were lines

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of energy that were called ceques,
and those ceques united the sacred places,

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not only of Peru, but much
beyond the borders of Peru. How was

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your approach to Cuzco and to all
this history that I have made a small

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introduction and that, indeed, for
the Incas the center not of Peru,

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the center of its empire and the
world would be Cusco, which you mention.

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There are two classic legends, the
most widespread in the Andes about the

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beginning of the Tawa Inti empire its
Tawa four inti the noon sun, because

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the name of the sun was not
inti, but it was you that comes

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from the coquina intis when it is
at noon, anti when it just dawns

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and conti when it hides. And
Suyu or his is the region. It

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was a wonderful Andean confederation that had
a history of thousands of years ago,

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but that had their boom later with
the empire. And these two legends we

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mentioned. First, the coya,
the lau titicaca speaks of a mancocapa marriage

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that mamaoyo and the other of the
Ayar brothers who have described well, which

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arise from the underground world of Lukupacha, and then nail some elongated element,

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a golden javelin, a golden cane. Some did not interpret it as being

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the place where the empire should be
founded, its capital, a nod to

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agriculture, to fertile land. But
I think this is something else, because,

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curiously, as you also explain,
from there arise those imaginary lines or

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dry lines in Quechua, which not
only grouped special places of the Panacas,

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Huaca sanctuaries, a spatial organization,
but grouped something much broader that seemed to

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be aligned with other places away from
the CUSCO, beyond the current borders of

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Peru and that could be following a
fractar pattern. In fact, today it

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is known that the mythical route of
Viracocha would lie in the famous figure of

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the chacana, the portal of time, the stairway of time, the square

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Cross, which has as center of
different points. You can use it with

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Lake Titicaca as a nuclear enclave,
or you can use it with Cusco as

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a nuclear key. Obviously, as
I said minutes ago, investigating the theme

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of hom and the close encounters precisely
the places where grus or contact group of

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of ofology, where there were many
testimonies of all this in certain regions of

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Peru, fit with the points marked
by the chacana, places like Incaahuasi,

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like Marcauaz and the Pope of the
Ingenio or of there is the line of

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Nasca, the region of Achumarca or
the badly called Gate of Aramu Muru,

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which in reality is Amaru snake Murus
Seed, the seed of the snake among

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so many other points. So I
have no doubt, as you can deduce

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that the places of contact respond to
a phenomenon that we have not finished understanding

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rationally, why certain places have a
higher incidence of energy as if they were

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window areas. It will be by
its mineral composition, it will be by

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some distinctive geological element of the area, by napas, by greater cosmic ionization

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in the area, that is,
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every soto was studied in Andean cosmogony
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but all over the world. You
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Europe the leile lines and all that
theory that circulates around the location of the

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pinkies that we call in Peru huancas, so the same technology, because I

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call technology the same information that is
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it is the same knowledge that spreads
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I mean, it' s like
some kind of atabic memory that can come

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from time back from when there were
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Alemuria. Or we have no idea
what, but yes, it' s

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very curious, that is, you
said it when you marked places like Stonehange

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in England or Carnak in France,
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This is not casual, but it' s that we go to Easter

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Island and it' s the same
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we have on Moai, but look
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blah blah, it' s that
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called archeoastronomy and that also relates us, these exact places and those menirs and

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those sites with constellations in a direct
way. We see it very clearly on

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the plateau of Giza, with the
three pyramids that are the belt of orion

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on the earth, which represented the
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to the beyond where the gods live. But if it goes as I was

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saying Easter Island, look. The
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to go and interview Edmundo, Edward
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he was the first to say no
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looking at different constellations that the ancient
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them, or simply that he thought
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repeated again and again and it seems
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For me, it' s no
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Ricardo thinks. I agree, it' s not casual at all. In

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fact, in this book that you
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lot of emphasis on Orion. Orion, although it is an arbitrary grouping of

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stars that are separated. For example, Orion belt are separated by one hundred

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and six hundred light years. We, in perspective, see them as having

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one side to the other, but
you are very separate. However, that

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figure in the sky or that sector. Stellar was very important to different peoples

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of the earth and some legends,
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there or when one departed, when
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or travel to that place, as
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and that refeta to the duet,
the starland of Osiris. So that some

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group moai observe orion, such as
the research that Eduards did and also a

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university of the Canary Ideas, as
you well know, or even that the

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orion correlation of the research that did
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which has had an echo and a
great controversy. Today other places in

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the world have been found that seem
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some way with orion or even with
the beaches. Right now, I remember

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the shock stone Chinchai, the ritual
stone of the temple of Chavín, of

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oantaren in the Peruvian arts, which
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if it is not orion on the
beaches, being the players suddenly some

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place of greater cap, as the
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t think it' s by chance
just because they' re grave luminaries in

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the sky, but because something we
don' t know much more deeply involves

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those places in space. I do
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the source of some beings, of
some civilizations or of some forces or of

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some inspiration, of some knowledge,
as we would like to call it,

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which arrived on earth, which our
ancestors knew. And with this I am

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making clear I am saying that Machu
Pichu in my country, or the Nasca

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lines or the pyramids of Egypt that
we talked about at the beginning of this

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interview, have been literally built by
extraterrestrial beings. I personally don' t

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think so. However, if I
am convinced that the official history of these

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great cultures has great gaps and I
would not be surprised that, even if

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it has not been built by beings
from other worlds, that our ancestors,

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if they have agreed to a privileged
knowledge, have arrived from the stars or

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from some golden age of a mythical
civilization, whatever it may be, but

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that it puts the official theory that
has been spreading all this time in trouble

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and, indeed, at the key
of all this is the following. It

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does not mean that these kinds of
works have had to be made extraterrestrials or

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absolutely things of these, but that
was done with a technology and knowledge that

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has been lost today. And it' s funny that I, for example,

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introduce him to praise, for example, about Stone Hange. It is

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curious that Nestone Hans appeared the famous
archer' s tomb of a man who

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came thousands of miles in Antiquity and
played his life to get there, to

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this place, to Stone Hange.
Then it was simply religious issues, or

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those places, for example, were
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It is that I believe that this
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look at all the places we have
here in Colombia, which could be

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interdimentional portals, such as San Agustín, Runas de San Agustín, which is

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the largest necropolis in America, South
America and which was a place that for

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the ancients was a step further and
came to bury there and did not serve

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five kilometers to the right, to
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What do you think of this,
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given a very specific key to this, and it' s that relationship of

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those monuments, of those stone testaments
that were erected by ancient civilizations and their

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relationship, either with some energy,
some secret that is hidden underground or their

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relationship to the stars. And this
is where I come to mind, not

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only something you commented on in the
introduction regarding how the Egyptians would have represented

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the belt of orion through the three
pyramids, which but or two for example,

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Juange, something that has recently been
catalogued as the oldest pyramid in the

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world Bunu, a padang in Indonesia
that would go back, according to the

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last measurements that twenty- seven thousand
years ago, an absolute madness Juang And

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in this context, Grandhan Hancock,
one of the experts who was most investigating

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these pyramids, says that he was
possibly chosen at that point, even looking

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up to the sky, representing an
astronomical event that could have occurred millennia ago,

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a way that he had in the
cultures of ancient Juange, to represent

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things that happened in heaven and that, at least from his point of view,

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were messages that gave them their gods. And the most important thing that

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with a padam is still today a
place of worship for people living in the

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area. A real mystery and,
as always in pyramidal form, we were

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talking about the enigma that some places
in the world, marked by history,

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by tradition, collected from anthropological sources
that speak to us, were places that

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sacred men, shamans and ancient priests
used as telephones to talk to the stars.

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Ricardo González Corpancha was giving us some
data about Egypt and his interview continues

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ah Yes, indeed, totally agree
with you. I don' t know

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if Alejandro Bernal wants to comment,
too. I mean, for me.

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The pyramids of Iza were not made
by aliens. Now they have come up

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with a technology that today does not
exceed but by goal. I' m

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clear of that, too. That
technology comes from preterite worlds like Atlantis Lemuria,

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where men and God lived together.
Or that technology was given directly by

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God who came from the stars.
If I did, they would describe a

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book that would live three. But
I simply believe that there is an open

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mind when we look at the past
Alexander ernar John, unique of a golden

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age, as we have been analyzing
in various programs here at Mystery Night,

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the echoes not only of a knowledge, but of a technology that at some

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point mankind had. Now, we
don' t even know how it developed

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or whether someone or something bequeathed to
them this technology or this knowledge that allowed

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these ancient civilizations to create these portents. Juan that, since we are talking

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here about South America with Ricardo and
since he is a person who has had

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the opportunity to know both our continent, you make reference in your book on

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Atacama. I believe that, indeed, Atacama is one of the most important

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points of sighting and contacts, not
only from South America, but from all

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over the world. What can you
tell us about that portal, that contact

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site represented by Atacama in Chile Ricardo
could make a complete program and we would

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be short if we talked about Atacama. I' m going to summarize all

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this into three headlines. The first, that there is an anomaly that we

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have been investigating for a long time, that the information arose by messages of

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extraterrestrial origin that at the time,
when all this came, that anomaly was

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not so widespread, had not paid
so much attention to it. Those messages

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arrived at the beginning of the year
two thousand one and only after the year

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two thousand eight, NASA had to
publish two articles and information about the anomaly

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of the South Atlantic that in that
area, on the continent, was occurring

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the depression of the electromagnetic field of
the earth, which has been expanding and

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has generated a great vorte to call
it, so today it has its spearhead

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in the Atacama desert. According to
my knowledge and the news that I have,

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beyond NASA' s reassuring explanation,
officially that this is by no means

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a precursor to an investment by magnetic
peoples. I have other information that probably

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this phenomenon, which was perhaps cyclical
on our active planet or in growing some

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contact zones and among them those involved
in its perimeter, and here is the

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Atacama desert, just its spearhead right
now. The second headline is that this

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place was forced by the Tiahuanaco culture, which made rituals and pilgrimages towards volcanoes

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in that region, such as the
Licancaabur, where a very controversial glass sphere

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had already been found, also no
more or less than by the diver Enrique

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García, who was a diver of
the French Grofo Ocean already accused and I

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interviewed several times the archeologist, Dr
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lives San Pedro de Atacama, who
was the one who took the photo and

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told me her experience of how to
find in the Atacama Volcano that glass sphere

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that was taken by the Russian.
The time for her, she kind of

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stopped and experienced a series of visions. It is an extraordinary case, so

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it is likely that the area has
underground mysteries, as the famous Madame Bla

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Vásquez, the author of the secret
use, believed to have traveled to the

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Atacama desert and claimed to have received
a map of what is the underworld of

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the Incas, all those labyrinths that
would be found under this desert. And

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just in case it was all a
little bit within my contact experience. We

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talk about my book Earth Two,
I claim to have received some information in

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contact experiences, where these human-
looking beings maintain that we could travel to

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the neighboring stellar system Alpha Centauri to
protect our species in the event that things

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in our world could not be balanced. We talk about the dangers of extinction,

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climate change, our wars in the
previous program. Well the takeoff platform

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for that secret space project that we
are going to call the Ark is neither

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cape cane or the old Baikonur cosmodrome, of the then Soviet sounds, but

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it would be the Atacama desert,
where it is currently located on a large

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plateau called Chahnantor, the Alma observatory, with its sixty- six antennas that

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curiously also scan Malfacentauri, a no
minor detail. And with this I close

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that chagnantor in the local language Kunsa
means the place of takeoff. Perhaps a

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memory of the future. So Atacama
has a lot of mysteries. Good Lord

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I didn' t have that information
and you just left me in shock.

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I have been lucky enough to be
in Atacama and, indeed, that is,

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there is a place called Tamarugar'
s Pampa where we are going to

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see a series of geoglyphs that are
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I mean, Nazca has more mystery, because Nazca can only be seen from

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heaven. This is simply seen from
the road. Or if you stop to

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see the symbols that are memories of
a preterite era where there were caravans from

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Tiahuanaco to that area of the coast
and another area of the Andes and it

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was always a sacred place, what
happens is that with this answer what you

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have told us eye with this I
think it is very important that that type

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of sacred places and contact portals would
be living entities, because this anomaly of

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the South Atlantic, which is changing
and is suddenly putting Atacama in a very

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particular position on a geomagnetic level.
This would give you certain particularities where our

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star visitors would be talking to us
and they' d be saying guys.

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There may be the key for you
to contact, for you to talk to

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us or for things to happen,
which is the same thing the shamans were

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looking for before. It would be
like this. Or I' m skating.

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I think it has an important basis
for this hypothesis, because to see

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something I have learned by researching this
topic and living it from within things that

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rose in science fiction, but that
happened and I have tried and I keep

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trying to try to understand everything that
happened to me. These beings have incredible,

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magical abilities. They can show up
wherever they want. You can remember

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a case told by a compatriot of
mine, a commander of the air force,

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Julio Chamorro, who were in a
region of Lake Titi, where the

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border of Bolivia and Peru also arrives, reaches the anomaly of the South Atlantic,

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that is, it extends almost to
the south of Cusco. Imagine it

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' s a very large area.
In fact, the Atacama Desert extends to

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Peru. True Ama also involves in
southern Peru, technically geologically speaking, but

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when we talk about Atacama, Atacama
in the middle of the matter is northern

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Chile, the area that is close
to the town of San Pedro de Atacama,

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but it is much wider. But
returning Chamorro, he told me that

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in the Titicaca he was with a
group of soldiers and the night they are

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surprised by a huge tubular object that
was heading a large mountain called the sacred

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apu and the military were frightened and
began to prepare the battery of rockets to

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charge the object. They didn'
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they didn' t know it was
a new sophisticated armament of some neighboring

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country of protos of Chile, and
Julio Chamorro intended to say don' t

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shoot him let him say that he
moved very low with elegance of space and

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tremendous apparatus that saw him all the
Unity, the whole unit got inside the

403
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:21.639
mountain, that is, it didn' t crash, that is, it

404
00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:24.679
entered into the mountain. As if
there was a door, then these beings

405
00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:32.079
have the possibility to appear and get
where they are. However, when they

406
00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:38.280
do so in places where natural conditions
are already ideal, they are breaking fewer

407
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:44.840
protocols. I' ll explain.
They' re breaking fewer protocols, they

408
00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:47.840
' re affecting less the planet where
they' re acting, and obviously Atacama

409
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:52.679
is one of their places. Not
what wonders if you want, you leave

410
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:54.840
me alluded to that information. If
it' s because a lot of people

411
00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:59.199
are going to be thinking this,
you hear, but you' re not

412
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:01.679
going to make us over the map
of the world as some kind of map

413
00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:05.679
of what those contact places are.
We are starting in Latin America, the

414
00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:09.840
Cuzco, would be a sacred city
for the Incas, where the Iti Churing,

415
00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:15.199
the children of the Sun, contacted
the energy of the sun and the

416
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:19.599
energy of the stars. The exact
point, plus for this would be the

417
00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:23.800
Curicancha. Although there are other sacred
places like Machu Picchu, like Sakai Waman

418
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:30.199
and others we have gone to the
Atacama desert. We already have two points

419
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:32.119
in Latin America. But before I
go through Latin America or change continent,

420
00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:37.599
forgive me for asking you about details
of that sphere that you say found a

421
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:44.039
jazz diver cut in a mountain,
because that story didn' t know her

422
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:47.639
and left me on show. How
was that story that this guy found something

423
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:52.559
there like in a sacred apu and
that left them in shock. How is

424
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:57.199
that story, because I didn'
t know Ricardo. It happened in the

425
00:37:57.239 --> 00:38:01.880
nineties and, in fact, is
in my book places of contact with the

426
00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:09.199
photography of the sphere that the said
archeologist Ana María Varón took. They were

427
00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:16.400
doing a series of inspections, of
investigations and suddenly the diver when he enters

428
00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:22.079
the lagoon that is in the crater
or, be it at the top of

429
00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:23.960
the volcano of Cancaburu, that is
more than six zero meters high, that

430
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:29.800
is to say in the lagoon of
the crater or, It is a complex

431
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:32.559
investment, because it is an investment
of very high mountain. And he sees

432
00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:37.079
something brilliant he pulls out the sphere. The interesting thing when he pulls out

433
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:40.599
the sphere and shows it to the
archeologist, because the archeologist had to make

434
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:45.679
an inventory of everything that was found
there, from things that had no explanation

435
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:51.960
in some recent gadget to others that
suddenly, in fact, found a motor

436
00:38:52.760 --> 00:39:00.639
of a kind of pumping system to
be able to drain into the lagoon,

437
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:05.079
because they were also treasure hunters And
well, there appeared the engine from where

438
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:08.079
it came from. It was not
an expeditionary group from Chile, but from

439
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:13.559
Europe. Well, it doesn'
t matter, but the point is that

440
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:16.159
they failed and dropped the bomb so
no one could see that they had taken

441
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:19.199
it there inside the crater. Then
he went into everything and in the middle

442
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:22.559
of it was the sphere of Cristal, which seemed to have a brightness in

443
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:28.840
the depth and that' s why
he caught it how disturbing it was that

444
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:34.039
when Henry Garcia raises his hand and
the show says because there are two versions,

445
00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:36.960
one that slips, but what they
were telling me there in San Pedro

446
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:39.280
de Atacama. It just started to
warm his hand, like burning his glove

447
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:45.800
and had to let go. Then
he dropped it, went back in and

448
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:51.880
couldn' t find the scene,
the skeptical version, the extreme Okan knife.

449
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:59.119
It' s just that it was
some sphere, some martilugio, I

450
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:04.239
don' t know what kind,
and that it made a magnifying glass effect

451
00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:07.199
and burned his hand and fell and
didn' t find it again and that

452
00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:08.320
there' s nothing strange about it. And what the doctor did to María

453
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:13.920
Varón, that feeling like time was
stopping and a series of visions and it

454
00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:20.079
was all a suggestion to a doctor
in archaeology who was sick of turning things

455
00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:25.159
around in San Pedro de Atacama.
I don' t believe it. Okay.

456
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:31.440
The point is, the sphere could
have been. It could have been

457
00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:38.920
one of the offerings of the priests
of Tiahuanaco, because they also faced or

458
00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:44.519
left crystals in some places. That' s what we know. It'

459
00:40:44.639 --> 00:40:47.199
s a possibility, but this is
an extrudinary case, because they would be

460
00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:52.480
marking that this area is very important
and good. In the book I comment

461
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:58.519
on a story we had there,
an experience of contact where with my expeditionary

462
00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:04.159
team at the end of the year
two thousand three, in the month of

463
00:41:04.239 --> 00:41:09.559
November, to be more accurate,
we saw the appearance of an elongated object,

464
00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:16.199
perhaps like the one that saw in
his day, the Moorish Chamorro,

465
00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:21.440
elongated surrounded by a cluster of lights
floating over the green lagoon. It was

466
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:24.199
a terrible thing to do. We
all saw it and at that moment no

467
00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:30.079
one satimo was encouraged and stopped to
take a photograph because cameras had in an

468
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:37.199
instant it is synodized as drunk,
as stopped in trance, because you are

469
00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:39.880
contemplating something wonderful and very close to
some Inca reuinas that are at half height

470
00:41:39.880 --> 00:41:45.159
of this volcano. In the Atacama
and Le Cankaburu appeared a strangely dressed man

471
00:41:45.159 --> 00:41:52.880
about fifty feet tall, a giant. Several of us saw it, several

472
00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:58.119
of us saw it with the hair
cano and long up to the shoulders and

473
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:01.880
dressed as a kind of enterrizo of
a metal monkey adjusted the next day in

474
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:06.960
the morning. Although this looks like
a science movie. Fiction showed up in

475
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:10.679
several vans. So in caravan they
came to our camp and kicked us out

476
00:42:10.760 --> 00:42:19.440
and there were people from NASA wow
Ysron they gave us the official explanation is

477
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:25.119
that that group, which commanded Brian
gossip the official version is that both this

478
00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:32.320
North American astronomer and his companion Dr
Carroll were there to investigate stremophiles, that

479
00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:38.840
is, very small, microscopic life
forms that could grow in indomitable conditions,

480
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:44.239
like the lagoon of the Summit of
Licacabo. But for those things of life,

481
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:49.079
the following year I attended a conference
of the NASA Center of California as

482
00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:54.360
one more spectator to see his advances, his research, a public conference and,

483
00:42:54.960 --> 00:42:59.679
curiously, when he arrived at the
conference, present in o o or

484
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:04.639
the conference Dr Carroll, Brian grispey
and all those who had been with me

485
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:07.840
in Atacama and who had invited us
to retire besides that he had asked me

486
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:10.480
about the man subject and the things
that were going on there and I raised

487
00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:15.559
my hand in the auditorium and told
them, but all that you are commenting

488
00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:20.760
on the conference was not what I
saw there. You remember my Bryan we

489
00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:24.679
talked and you asked me this.
You asked me that in the auditorium and

490
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:30.079
you tell me you don' t
know him, sir, and he threw

491
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:35.159
you out of there, not me. The Atacama Group threw me and my

492
00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:38.480
entire team out and when I was
in California the following year, I was

493
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:44.400
not aware of it. I remember
my partner at the time, a Mexican

494
00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:49.000
American who lived in San Jose,
California, told me Ricardo didn' t

495
00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:52.840
ask any more questions that you'
re going to get in trouble. And

496
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:57.000
and we need you more here to
keep coming to America and wow, crazy

497
00:43:57.079 --> 00:44:00.440
or crazy because how curious non-
scientific NASA have an interest in that And

498
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:04.719
I tell you one thing, the
fact that you' ve had a tremophile

499
00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:07.039
doesn' t give them permission or
right to be thrown out of a place

500
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:12.400
that I imagine is a natural park. And there' s something there enough,

501
00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:17.320
strange enough to close the Atacama issue. The glass sphere is somewhere or

502
00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:23.280
it was lost then in the lake
forever. He lost Jim forever. Nothing,

503
00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:31.480
for we would be touched. Keep
looking with efforts that have led to

504
00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:36.039
failure. Well, it' s
nothing for us to do another expedition there

505
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:38.480
to see if we can find it. Hey we' re in Latin America,

506
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:42.880
so we' ve been to Cuzco, we' ve been to the

507
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:45.519
Atacama desert. If you want to
continue, then a little further south before

508
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:50.440
going north. And if we go
south, we have to go to Argentina,

509
00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:53.239
where you live. And you also
live, in one of the most

510
00:44:53.280 --> 00:45:00.360
famous places of contact in the world, which is Mount Uritorco, there was

511
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:07.280
an all- famous sighting that also
left a mark, a burn in a

512
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:12.639
place that is Mount Pajarillo Tremendo,
where there were many witnesses, where I

513
00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:19.039
believe that also a living in investigations, even by the Argentine army, how

514
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:24.440
it is to be ruritorco and by
place of contact such important Ricardo. Here

515
00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:30.480
too we are in another mess or
Jesus, because we could spend several programs

516
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:32.519
talking only in cycles of tor ro. In fact, right now, as

517
00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:37.159
you rightly say. I am in
my house in chapels of the mountain at

518
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:42.960
the foot of this mountain, which
is not very high, spider the two

519
00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:47.159
thousand meters of height, but it
is the highest point of the small mountains

520
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:51.679
of the province of Córdoba, in
the heart of Argentina. This place was

521
00:45:51.679 --> 00:45:59.280
already famous, at least locally for
oral traditions. The legends of the natives

522
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:07.920
who lived the Camiare rune or the
Eia camiaren, better known as the comechingones,

523
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:13.840
a derogatory name that sounds quite funny, perhaps for some who meant something

524
00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:19.239
like the inhabitants of the caves,
if they accepted their Sanaviron origin of Santiago

525
00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:22.320
del Estero. But what we care
about is legends. And the legends spoke

526
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:27.760
of lights that were not bad light, as it is said here in Uruguay,

527
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:32.480
in Argentina, the fatuous fire organic
light that proceeds decomposition of animals from

528
00:46:32.519 --> 00:46:37.480
whatever it is and that has confused
the gauchos to whatever you want. They

529
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:42.440
were not lights, they approached,
they communicated, they expressed themselves, they

530
00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:45.199
spoke as if they were intelligent entities. One of the first to investigate this

531
00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:52.599
was Professor Alfredo Terrera, Guillermo Alfredo
Terrera, professor of the University of Córdoba,

532
00:46:52.079 --> 00:47:00.880
sociologist, anthropologist and mazón that in
the sixties the lectures or mysteries of

533
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:05.159
the uritorco, because he claimed to
have received, in the late 1930s,

534
00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:09.719
an object of power by another soterico, by Ferio Luises Herrera, an object

535
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:15.000
called El Batón de Mando, a
Ritrified volcanic rock that also generated a thousand

536
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:21.400
polemics, debates, opinions and good
fabio being for the South American lufology bull

537
00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:28.920
made a lot of friendship with Terrera
and began to invite him to his television

538
00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:34.360
program Fourth dimension in Argentina and also
the magazine of the same name, and

539
00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:40.000
obviously Uritorco jumped to fame began to
lie many people. Uritorco is tremendously famous,

540
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:46.599
not only in Latin America, but
worldwide. For all that is behind,

541
00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:52.679
that is, by the famous sighting
that he left was footprint on the

542
00:47:52.760 --> 00:47:57.239
mountain, on the mountain of the
Pajarillo, the amount of lights that there

543
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:00.039
are there this type of places.
Well, here it mixes up a little

544
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:04.760
bit of everything, because you'
re already showing up these uphological sects and

545
00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:07.880
everything that goes through your head.
But if it is a place that has

546
00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:15.800
an anthropological history, that of the
indigenous, comechingones that had it as a

547
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:20.920
door and this very curious, not
to the stars, to an inner world,

548
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:27.119
to the city of herx and this
is a very curious thing, as

549
00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:31.239
if the beings that came from the
stars could be able with some kind of

550
00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:38.000
technology that we totally do not know, they could also be able to live

551
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:42.320
under the earth. What does Alejandra
Barrar Juan think that for me this that

552
00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:49.239
you are commenting has to go or
rather goes hand in hand with recent research

553
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:55.719
that the Pentagon has done on characteristics
of unidentified polar artifacts. Their characteristics transmediate

554
00:48:55.800 --> 00:48:59.880
that possibility that they have to go
in the air, in the space,

555
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:04.880
on the water or under it.
And in fact, Juan ge Ricardo was

556
00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:08.440
telling us and other witnesses in which
you have also collected testimonies and I have

557
00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:15.039
also been able to speak as many
times, these strange unidentified flying artifacts seem

558
00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:22.000
to get inside the mountains, as
if these artifacts were made with a material

559
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:28.599
that was able to traverse any solid
or any liquid on our planet, with

560
00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:32.960
a technology and with properties that exceed
our knowledge, that exceed our understanding.

561
00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:39.039
And again I would also go hand
in hand with the most recent leaks of

562
00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:45.199
official videos of the Pentaburo Juange of
how the vast majority of these devices get

563
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:51.679
underwater. It appears that it is
something that is beneath the liquid bodies of

564
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:57.559
our world and there are a lot
of casuistic witnesses who affirm the clear relationship

565
00:49:57.599 --> 00:50:04.159
between these unidentified flying devices and large
mountain chains as if in the electromagnetism of

566
00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:07.800
these great chains that are in parts
of the world it also attracts them and

567
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:14.800
allows them to realize that kind of
portents. How many images are there of

568
00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:19.639
spheres of light entering the volcano or
postepetl Es in Mexico, or, for

569
00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:24.199
example, reminds Rafael Mercado of the
interview we did with the Peruvian investigative journalist

570
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:31.760
a few months ago, telling us
the case also of the appearance that they

571
00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:37.199
enter the volcanoes that surround the city
of Arequipa. That' s by chance.

572
00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:40.119
I honestly don' t think so. Juan Jessin go very far.

573
00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:46.239
The enormous number of testimonies of people
who in Huaica' s rock have observed

574
00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:52.800
how the lights seem to get inside
the mountain. Also Juan Gelus, who

575
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:58.679
you collected in Nupsa Boyacá, who
also have that similarity. Indeed, friend

576
00:51:09.519 --> 00:51:16.199
and we were interviewing rich Ricardo González
Corpancho, who was telling us about the

577
00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:22.679
amount of strange luminous phenomena around the
uritorco hill and also telling us about the

578
00:51:22.719 --> 00:51:29.519
indigenous tradition that tells us that the
site is the door to an unknown underworld

579
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:36.800
called the city of RX. And
the interview with Ricardo González Corpancho continues ah

580
00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:39.400
yes, but the gout that ate
the glass happened, as you well mentioned,

581
00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:43.480
in the year eighty- six.
This was already the series on the

582
00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:47.760
cake, as we say, when
an abnormal object after a storm or seem

583
00:51:47.800 --> 00:51:52.320
more accurate, the object appears in
the middle of a storm. But after

584
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:55.159
the storm and the appearance of this
object, a kind of lenticular apparatus that

585
00:51:55.400 --> 00:52:01.320
brought in a reddish light, a
mark is observed the next day on the

586
00:52:01.320 --> 00:52:06.280
hillside of a hill called Pajarillo,
which is not right here in the chapel

587
00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:08.800
of the mountain. It is far
from a few kilometers, it is in

588
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:16.039
the area of crumbling of the moon, about thirty minutes drive from the chapel

589
00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:22.159
of the mountain going north and the
footprint about a hundred meters long and fifty

590
00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:30.280
wide. He drew a lot of
attention because it could not be a sparkle,

591
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:34.920
a globular ray of the aforementioned storm, although the skeptics said it was

592
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:38.119
a fire provoked to bring tourism in
Capilla del Monte. It' s a

593
00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:43.079
hypothesis, but why they didn'
t do it in the ritorco and why

594
00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:45.239
they would have done so far to
the little man thirty minutes by car.

595
00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:52.280
It' s extremely, extremely rare. I remember when Juan Joveenítez was here

596
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:58.920
right here in my house and we
were talking about that topic and he was

597
00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:04.559
commenting to me, reaffirming that I
was in command with Fernando Jiménez del Oso

598
00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:06.320
for the shooting of the routes of
the Mystery. If my memory did not

599
00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:10.880
betray me, eighty- nine years
had been with the Spanish technical team and

600
00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:15.639
the apparatuses had all kinds of interferences
when they were in the footprint, besides

601
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:22.400
that they felt things, happened to
them, things that are not expressed in

602
00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:27.400
the documentary. For obvious reasons.
The interferences also commented silo, so the

603
00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:31.239
footprint to the bird was what it
was, but it finished transforming, as

604
00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:37.159
I say, Capilla del Monte into
an Argentine Roswell keeping the distance. And

605
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:42.400
this enclave is very famous, because
events continue to occur apparitions, not of

606
00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:47.119
lights and objects in the sky necessarily, but also of these luminous entities that

607
00:53:47.440 --> 00:53:52.760
have given so much diffusion to the
myth of ers the interdimensional city that is

608
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:57.440
supposedly under the ritorco I call this
zone the Great Borders. In fact,

609
00:53:57.519 --> 00:54:00.800
one of my last books is called
Al Bortez, which are research on this

610
00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:04.760
matter. Yes, of course,
because Capilla del Monte, indeed, is

611
00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:08.960
the Argentine Rockwell and if you rush
me, the South American Rockwell, because

612
00:54:09.000 --> 00:54:14.000
I think it' s the point
of contact, at least to which all

613
00:54:14.039 --> 00:54:17.760
the sufologists go And a lot of
curious people to see if they see those

614
00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:20.920
lights to see if they see those
beings. And yet, there was an

615
00:54:20.920 --> 00:54:25.360
anthropological story behind the comechingon Indians that
the name is horrifying, that they put

616
00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:30.800
it and the famous baton of command, that famous baton of command. Fernando

617
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:35.280
jimene Droso spoke to me, that
in peace he rests, that he must

618
00:54:35.360 --> 00:54:38.400
be seeing this from the stars.
He told me about the famous cane and

619
00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:43.800
to me people who told me that
you grabbed the cane and felt a super

620
00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:46.239
strange feeling as if the cane had
a vibration. Then they told me that

621
00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:50.440
the cane if it broke, that
if it was lost, it was not

622
00:54:50.440 --> 00:54:54.280
clear, because it was an indigenous
object of power or being an ancestral object.

623
00:54:55.159 --> 00:55:02.119
You know where the cane with which
I met is. Guillermo Alfredo is

624
00:55:02.159 --> 00:55:07.840
already dead, but that cash.
What it says is the object. It

625
00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:15.960
is broken between fragments and a box
is hidden, not even here, in

626
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:19.280
the province of Córdoba, but a
stay in the province of Buenos Aires,

627
00:55:19.599 --> 00:55:23.119
which I do not know its exact
location. Apparently one family member has it

628
00:55:23.119 --> 00:55:28.840
and although they have offered him significant
amounts of money, another family member is

629
00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:31.960
alleged to me and even though it
is broken, as I say, he

630
00:55:32.039 --> 00:55:37.320
has not wanted to sell it.
I believe that the archaeological discovery is authentic.

631
00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:45.760
I have clues to consider it and
I think it has a role or

632
00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:52.639
you, a very important ritual role
in what Apur and Torco represent in this

633
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:55.960
area, that you have to see
it in context that it would be maybe

634
00:55:55.960 --> 00:55:58.440
another time to talk about it,
because it is very long. In the

635
00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:01.400
red hill pictograms, the connection against
the go that is in the rioja a

636
00:56:04.480 --> 00:56:08.000
lot of things that are really extraordinary. But this cane is fragmented today.

637
00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:16.480
But it was part of an object
that supposedly wanted to possess some members of

638
00:56:16.639 --> 00:56:22.000
Nazi Germany who arrived in Argentina.
This is true. If there is no

639
00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:25.360
world, there is no delusional conspiracy
theory, that is, here, even

640
00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:31.960
before the end of World War II, members of the Argentine CSS arrived and

641
00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:37.079
had a series of rituals practices linked
to spiritism, with the search for sacred

642
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:40.519
objects, as happened in their day
in Europe, also here in Argentina and

643
00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:49.159
until recently Interpol of Comisón many objects
in a secret place in the northern part

644
00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:53.440
of Buenos Aires. The videos are
on YouTube and I interviewed myself as cop

645
00:56:53.480 --> 00:57:00.960
Interpol, who led the operation.
This was not in any strange opiration in

646
00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:07.280
the sense that there was a body
of intellectuals who called themselves the anenerve And

647
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:10.800
from the anenerve in Germany a lot
of expeditions were sent to countless places in

648
00:57:10.840 --> 00:57:15.519
the world, from the search for
the Holy Grail, on another, ran

649
00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:19.360
in France to the search for Narca, Alianza and Argentina. It was one

650
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:25.679
of the places in Spain. Indeed, that was Henris Hiller, no more

651
00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:30.840
or less for the search, the
search for Atlantis, in Bolivia, in

652
00:57:30.840 --> 00:57:34.360
Tiaguanaco. The lin Herve also led
her here on the continent. So,

653
00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:39.800
as Ricardo says, it' s
an absomically logical fact, exactly, to

654
00:57:39.960 --> 00:57:45.760
the comment. One more thing is
that in Ricardo' s book he makes

655
00:57:45.199 --> 00:57:50.320
a reference to a place that,
unfortunately, I did not know and that

656
00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:52.320
is part of a country that we
often overlook, but that is very important

657
00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:57.920
and of which we have a lot
of audience, that is Uruguay, and

658
00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:02.719
he refers to the aurora that remains
in the department of Salto in Uruguay and

659
00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:07.599
that you include in your book as
a place of contact, because it is

660
00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:09.960
important in Latin America, in South
America, specifically, the aurora in Uruguay.

661
00:58:10.079 --> 00:58:15.000
Ricardo is very important and, in
fact, following the omnis incidents of

662
00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:20.639
the aurora between Salto and Paysandú,
as you say at the end of the

663
00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:24.800
decade to the seventies, is that
many pilgrims, Argentines, esoteric mystics who

664
00:58:24.880 --> 00:58:31.880
went to the estancia of Tototona the
owner of that ranch. I don'

665
00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:38.000
t know what you say in Colombia
ranch here say stay very large farm,

666
00:58:38.480 --> 00:58:44.679
a farm and a farm of at
least 500 hectares. It' s actually

667
00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:49.920
a lot bigger. And there appeared
these objects, which left marks with symbols

668
00:58:50.840 --> 00:58:55.800
in the field, on this farm, where many people claimed to have been

669
00:58:55.880 --> 00:59:00.559
cured of diseases and well, I
met prena Tototona. She passed away.

670
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:05.800
He received me substance, something that
was not usual, and told me that

671
00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:12.079
he received visits from illustrious characters,
including always according to him, from Nielandstrom

672
00:59:12.079 --> 00:59:17.480
himself, the astronaut of the mission
to Polonce who was in Uruguay clandestinely,

673
00:59:17.760 --> 00:59:22.159
did not visit her official that is
marked on another date. Then, the

674
00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:28.760
esoteric pilgrims of Argentina, already in
the early eighties went to Uruguay to try

675
00:59:28.880 --> 00:59:32.400
to penetrate that farm and be with
Tona and to tell them their contacts,

676
00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:38.519
the experiences that had happened there.
And he told some researchers, among them

677
00:59:38.559 --> 00:59:43.760
Fabio Serpa himself, that it was
his fellow, both Uruguayans, that the

678
00:59:44.239 --> 00:59:49.719
lights that were corporatized in human forms, head, trunks, tremities like the

679
00:59:50.320 --> 00:59:58.000
mythical Maya, a female entity was
also in the cer urritorgo. Then it

680
00:59:58.039 --> 01:00:01.280
was a rebound from this experience,
although it was known of the lights,

681
01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:07.280
the phenomena that occurred in the vicinity
of Capilla del Monte, that Serpa followed

682
01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:12.960
that research route, so Tona told
him connects with Guillermo Alfredo Terrera and here

683
01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:16.159
is born, therefore, all mythology, that has a real base of beings

684
01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:22.400
like Maya, wi, Taicón and
Panticuama, et cetera, that manifest from

685
01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:27.559
the sports of the uritorco. But
this began in Aurora, which has many

686
01:00:27.599 --> 01:00:30.519
controversies, many opinions, but to
this day there is activity in the area.

687
01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:34.920
No one can enter the estate.
The family doesn' t want to

688
01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:37.719
know anything about it. But,
well, many groups are organized, the

689
01:00:37.719 --> 01:00:44.760
contact ufology group and I must even
say just omni, that mix Marian apparitions

690
01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:52.199
with other things and come together around
the room to have virgin sightings or somni

691
01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:57.320
dressings. But there are two thousand
three, one thousand four, one thousand

692
01:00:57.360 --> 01:01:00.599
five zero people. It' s
a very sociological thing. Very important that

693
01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:04.400
case. For example, I admit
I didn' t know him either.

694
01:01:04.480 --> 01:01:08.840
Perhaps it is not as historically documented
anthropologically as that of the uritorc. But

695
01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:13.519
that' s why I don'
t get to be important, because if

696
01:01:13.519 --> 01:01:16.440
there are a lot of sightings,
there we' ve done a tour of

697
01:01:16.480 --> 01:01:21.519
South America that I think we'
d have more places here in Bogotá,

698
01:01:21.880 --> 01:01:22.440
for example, we have the Peña
de Juaica or we have Nopsa. We

699
01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:28.360
have nops in Boyacá. I have
not collected as many omi testimonies in my

700
01:01:28.480 --> 01:01:31.039
life as the day I was ANOPSA
in no opsa Boyacá. This is so

701
01:01:31.079 --> 01:01:37.440
absurd that Mount Aranda, from which
a priest comes out in lights. I

702
01:01:37.519 --> 01:01:40.159
don' t remember if it was
at the end of the early 19th century,

703
01:01:40.360 --> 01:01:43.000
the uncle already became a sucker,
climbed to the top of the mountain.

704
01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:45.440
He made him an exorcism, put
a cross on him, and the

705
01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:51.119
lights are still visible. But the
guy exorcised the mountain because he said it

706
01:01:51.159 --> 01:01:54.719
was clear that the lights are demons. Well, how will it be that

707
01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:59.880
Ennapsa' s shield has a man. The mayor decided to put an omni

708
01:02:00.000 --> 01:02:01.280
excuiosi most curious. It' s
one thing that, in a certain detail.

709
01:02:01.719 --> 01:02:05.519
Yes, the Knopsa theme is super
curious and not so well known.

710
01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:08.679
Everyone in Colombia knows about Jaica'
s rock. No Psa, no,

711
01:02:08.800 --> 01:02:13.320
but I' m telling you,
Nopsa. That is, anyone you ask

712
01:02:13.400 --> 01:02:16.360
Denopsa has seen the lights coming out
of the hill, going down or up

713
01:02:16.440 --> 01:02:22.559
or lights entering the hill into the
hill. Aranda' s name. It

714
01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:28.320
' s an absurd thing. There
are people who have also had many experiences

715
01:02:27.599 --> 01:02:30.440
on that mountain. But, well, closing down a little South America,

716
01:02:30.679 --> 01:02:36.519
because it doesn' t give time
to see if hopefully we get Asia,

717
01:02:36.760 --> 01:02:38.960
let' s go north of the
state, to the United States, because

718
01:02:39.039 --> 01:02:40.719
I know you have a place there
where you had a very spectacular experience.

719
01:02:42.079 --> 01:02:45.840
Something you were telling us in the
other interview, which is Mount Shasta.

720
01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:52.639
Why is Mount Yasta another of these
interdimensional portals. We continue with the same

721
01:02:52.639 --> 01:02:55.599
mess that fairy one of these places
is for an entire program and still would

722
01:02:55.639 --> 01:03:02.159
be very tight, very narrow and
short. Montshaster is a mountain, an

723
01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:07.360
ancient volcano located north of the State
of California, in the United States,

724
01:03:07.760 --> 01:03:12.639
but centuries ago it is known as
a sacred place both by local natives,

725
01:03:13.199 --> 01:03:19.199
the Modock, as well as by
other American tribes such as the famous hopping

726
01:03:19.679 --> 01:03:25.119
that in his day chatting one of
his White Bear leaders with the great researcher

727
01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:31.639
and scientist Justeph Blunrich, the same
one who was ceptic of the Somnia apparitions

728
01:03:31.639 --> 01:03:36.360
and the Bible, and ended up
publishing a book entitled The Spaceship of Zekiel.

729
01:03:36.960 --> 01:03:38.840
I mean, the guy came out
of his ass. He interviewed White

730
01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:44.159
Bear Leader Hoppey, and he told
him that his ancestors came from a sunken

731
01:03:44.239 --> 01:03:50.280
region in the Pacific, called Kashkara. This was also investigated in his day

732
01:03:50.320 --> 01:03:53.400
by a great Catalan researcher Andreas Fabre
Kayser. Not many investigated this formation,

733
01:03:53.920 --> 01:04:00.280
but Kashkara sank for unknown reasons.
Some say by catatrophe in nas de ural

734
01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:02.960
is, volcanic erusion. Whatever it
was, they were in the Pacific Ocean.

735
01:04:03.480 --> 01:04:08.880
Then some gods of the stars,
according to this legend from the players

736
01:04:09.239 --> 01:04:15.000
and flying shields came to Cashcara,
rescued several clans and took them to the

737
01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:19.440
Americas at three points, in particular, always according to the researchers who came

738
01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:24.960
to speak with white bear, may
the leader Hoppey rest in peace. The

739
01:04:25.039 --> 01:04:30.559
three places were going, then,
from south to north, not so south

740
01:04:31.639 --> 01:04:41.159
palenque. Then we found a very
important place for forgiveness, the auto eticaca

741
01:04:41.159 --> 01:04:48.159
Palenque and the very important place Monte
jaster Ok, whether that is to say

742
01:04:48.239 --> 01:04:51.920
that tautoman the Titicaca side, that
reminds me of Tiahuanaco. There they brought

743
01:04:53.000 --> 01:04:56.840
the groups that rescued these beings from
the sky of Cashcara. The other place

744
01:04:56.960 --> 01:05:00.760
Palenque in Mexico and the very important
landlord that we are talking about now,

745
01:05:01.159 --> 01:05:06.599
Monte yasta affirming that, in the
concrete case of the mountain yasta its descendants

746
01:05:06.599 --> 01:05:15.000
continued to live in the underground world, which aroused a series of hypothesis of

747
01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:18.159
Lemurians living within the Yastar mountain,
which is, in my humble view,

748
01:05:18.480 --> 01:05:25.920
a technical error of information, because
Lemuria, according to legends that so popularized

749
01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:30.119
the tosophia in the nineteenth century,
was located between Africa and Madagascar, in

750
01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:36.119
the Indian Ocean and in the case
of the Pacific Ocean. It was another

751
01:05:36.239 --> 01:05:41.960
mistake called Moo because of a misinterpretation
of the Mayan codex and a series of

752
01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:46.800
stories, because many confuse Lemuria with
Moo and it was the shell of the

753
01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:53.239
Hopie Indians or the jiva that you
will have heard when you went to Rapa

754
01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:58.039
Nui Pascuense exactly what the pascuenses speak
in Peru we call him in the Andean

755
01:05:58.119 --> 01:06:00.920
movement Hatton Pachamama, the Mother Earth. In short, the question is that

756
01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:05.800
mountains yastas since that time has been
of mystery, but obviously, sightings are

757
01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:11.079
and contacts interdimensional doors what happens in
their pine forest and either in Ciscy Julake

758
01:06:11.159 --> 01:06:15.239
or on top of the mountain,
in Samfland, where I usually meet more

759
01:06:15.320 --> 01:06:20.400
than twenty years ago. Every year
we go to groups there and have invited,

760
01:06:20.840 --> 01:06:26.360
at least in my particular case,
journalists or renowned researchers of the OMNI

761
01:06:26.440 --> 01:06:31.519
theme for contacts by appointment where these
beings had told us what day and on

762
01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:38.199
what schedule they were going to appear
and come with us very important researchers such

763
01:06:38.239 --> 01:06:41.800
as Michae Salah, Paola Harris in
Grand Cameron, among others, people of

764
01:06:41.880 --> 01:06:45.639
the BUFON, also who were with
us and these objects appeared. So it

765
01:06:45.639 --> 01:06:51.400
is a place of contact, although
also and with this I close local esoteric

766
01:06:51.480 --> 01:07:00.440
groups more linked to modern metaphysics,
as metaphysics for you to understand me here

767
01:07:00.480 --> 01:07:04.760
in South America, of conniments of
the series Gea de Rubén, sedeña plus

768
01:07:05.280 --> 01:07:11.719
that metaphysics of new era, plus
Newage. They say that Montejasta is also

769
01:07:11.760 --> 01:07:15.719
an enclave of ascended teachers and speak
of Saint Germain' s apparitions. In

770
01:07:15.719 --> 01:07:19.159
other words, everything is as convoluted
as there are chapels of the Mount and

771
01:07:19.199 --> 01:07:26.360
as it happens in any place of
contact, where everything ends up becoming a

772
01:07:26.360 --> 01:07:32.159
sociological phenomenon, but underneath the mountain
of sand is the diamond, which is

773
01:07:32.199 --> 01:07:36.599
the truth of base. I think
it becomes a sociological phenomenon, because for

774
01:07:36.599 --> 01:07:43.440
thousands of years these lights have appeared
and there are also appearances of these beings

775
01:07:43.480 --> 01:07:48.639
that are reflected in local legends and
anthropology of the area. But then people

776
01:07:48.760 --> 01:07:53.760
interpret it differently and the one that
goes with the mind, because super esoteric,

777
01:07:54.199 --> 01:07:57.400
because they think it is Saint Germain
or I don' t know what.

778
01:07:58.119 --> 01:08:01.840
Other people think it' s confirmation, other people think it' s

779
01:08:01.960 --> 01:08:08.360
the virgin and other people, because
they try to see it perhaps from another

780
01:08:08.360 --> 01:08:09.800
type of optics, as maybe it
can be in our case. Listen,

781
01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:15.920
I said one thing before we go
on that we have about twenty- five

782
01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:18.399
minutes or so left, which is
to see if we get to Asia,

783
01:08:18.720 --> 01:08:23.760
okay, but you said you do
that kind of meeting once a year on

784
01:08:23.760 --> 01:08:26.239
the Seasta Mountain or somewhere else.
If someone wants to go to those kinds

785
01:08:26.279 --> 01:08:30.359
of meetings or things, how they
get in touch with you or your team,

786
01:08:30.520 --> 01:08:32.359
how do people say Hey, because
I want to go with Ricardo González

787
01:08:32.439 --> 01:08:36.199
Corpancho this year that comes to the
Mount yasta or to. I don'

788
01:08:36.199 --> 01:08:39.920
t know where I' m possibly
pointing at one, uh,' cause

789
01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:42.840
you' re not gonna believe it. I' m investigating the phenomenon for

790
01:08:42.880 --> 01:08:45.000
not 30 years and I' ve
never seen any of them, so it

791
01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:48.439
' ll be your turn. But
to see something very important, not that

792
01:08:48.840 --> 01:08:53.600
in fact I spoke it with a
dear friend in common, as is Jesús

793
01:08:53.640 --> 01:08:59.800
Callejo Cabo in that we had been
at a solidarity congress in Murcia and s

794
01:08:59.840 --> 01:09:04.159
or s to be together at a
table chatting and eating rich things, those

795
01:09:04.159 --> 01:09:10.119
tapestries typical of Spain, that they
are rich a delight and chatting with him,

796
01:09:11.239 --> 01:09:14.279
I wondered but how it is that
in Yasta O, in Monte Perdido,

797
01:09:15.079 --> 01:09:17.840
in Pirineo, every year they meet
and every year they have scheduled sightings.

798
01:09:17.920 --> 01:09:19.439
I said no. No, it
is not so, that is,

799
01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:25.239
every year we meet in the context
of what I call field workshops, where

800
01:09:25.239 --> 01:09:30.640
we discuss the phenomenon is like those
open conferences in the field nature that were

801
01:09:30.720 --> 01:09:38.359
made in the beginning of lofology,
in California, in Spain, in Spain

802
01:09:36.920 --> 01:09:44.479
also in many places and suddenly there
have been ufological events that have been registered

803
01:09:44.479 --> 01:09:49.279
or not. Another thing is the
scheduled sightings that also do not spend all

804
01:09:49.399 --> 01:09:54.960
the time during these thirty years.
Only on eight occasions have we been invited

805
01:09:55.039 --> 01:09:58.760
to these researchers or journalists specializing in
men, only eight times in thirty years,

806
01:09:59.680 --> 01:10:03.920
and they have been very specific circumstances
where we have been marked the coordinates

807
01:10:03.960 --> 01:10:10.479
so that these phenomena can be given
and to verify not my contact, my

808
01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:14.479
experience in my investigation, but to
give some kind of wink signal of whatever

809
01:10:14.520 --> 01:10:17.840
it was to motivate other scholars to
investigate. In fact, the case of

810
01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:21.600
Pabla Harris and like these closures,
is also very famous, because, in

811
01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:27.000
addition to seeing these objects, he
saw an entity accompanied by nine other people

812
01:10:27.079 --> 01:10:30.800
and this took a turn of 180
degrees in Paola. Harris. I think

813
01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:39.119
it was a very important move by
them whoever they are, because they played

814
01:10:39.199 --> 01:10:43.079
one of the most influential people of
English- speaking lofology, who is close

815
01:10:43.119 --> 01:10:47.000
friend of the intimate heinek family friend
of Jack Vallee, that thanks to her

816
01:10:47.079 --> 01:10:50.960
I had Paul Heiner here at my
house and we had a conference conference and

817
01:10:51.479 --> 01:10:57.159
also that Jack Valet had a video
interview that I also presented at my congresses,

818
01:10:57.319 --> 01:11:00.840
that is, one of the most
influential people of lofology was touched by

819
01:11:00.920 --> 01:11:04.279
them. She was the researcher who
only relies on the sensible, the ration

820
01:11:04.520 --> 01:11:10.520
of the highly credible specifics, the
hard ephology. Well you' re gonna

821
01:11:10.920 --> 01:11:15.039
see us and when he saw them
it was an athshun and then for her

822
01:11:15.039 --> 01:11:17.960
or that' s Shuster, it' s not tremendous for people who haven

823
01:11:17.960 --> 01:11:20.279
' t understood. And such a
good Alenheine, who is a gentleman who

824
01:11:20.319 --> 01:11:25.319
started on a scientific level in cooperation
in the Blue Book project in the United

825
01:11:25.359 --> 01:11:30.840
States. When the U S government
investigates this allen Heine, the U S

826
01:11:31.159 --> 01:11:32.560
government gets frog because then he says
he hears they forced me to lie.

827
01:11:32.880 --> 01:11:36.399
And also here a lot of cases
that can' t be explained, and

828
01:11:36.479 --> 01:11:41.000
it' s the character, for
example, who was Steven Spielberg' s

829
01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:45.760
advisor in the movie Encounters of the
Third Guy and the other character he'

830
01:11:45.760 --> 01:11:47.119
s talking about, Jack Valet.
Well, he' s a world-

831
01:11:47.359 --> 01:11:53.039
renowned astrophysicist, because he investigates not
only the OMNI theme, but also the

832
01:11:53.079 --> 01:11:57.720
whole story behind it in very famous
books, such as Passport Amagonia. But

833
01:11:57.720 --> 01:12:00.199
I don' t answer the question
how can people be with you, contact

834
01:12:00.279 --> 01:12:04.319
you so I can go to those
open talks that aren' t going to

835
01:12:04.319 --> 01:12:06.880
come or man. That you can' t promise. You traally your instagram

836
01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:13.760
or something like you never know.
You can contact my work through my official

837
01:12:13.840 --> 01:12:18.279
website, which is Ricardo González Official
com and on social networks like Ricardo González

838
01:12:18.439 --> 01:12:24.279
Corpancho, on Facebook and on Instagram. That' s perfect. If anyone

839
01:12:24.279 --> 01:12:28.000
wants to sign up for any of
your trips that I already tell you,

840
01:12:28.119 --> 01:12:31.039
I' ll sign up anyway,
hey good. No one can really promise

841
01:12:31.079 --> 01:12:36.560
to look omnis Ricardo González Corpancho,
or anyone else. But if we don

842
01:12:36.600 --> 01:12:40.560
' t go to one of these
places in one night and don' t

843
01:12:40.640 --> 01:12:44.439
look at the sky of the stars, the somnis at your house won'

844
01:12:44.439 --> 01:12:46.279
t go. And it' s
funny because he' s lost a little

845
01:12:46.319 --> 01:12:53.279
bit He hasn' t lost a
lot of the soul that had previously made

846
01:12:53.359 --> 01:13:00.319
Omni alerts People went to the country
and were late in the morning and shared

847
01:13:00.359 --> 01:13:04.479
experiences and talks if you made friends, and that world, unfortunately, then

848
01:13:04.479 --> 01:13:10.560
disappeared. I lived it ten years
ago, but less and less. And

849
01:13:10.560 --> 01:13:13.039
I think that, above whether you
see lights or not to go to one

850
01:13:13.079 --> 01:13:15.079
of these places, like Mount Chasta, which are sacred, ancient places,

851
01:13:15.520 --> 01:13:19.000
and spend a night there, you
don' t even have to stay to

852
01:13:19.039 --> 01:13:21.439
sleep anymore, I mean, you
can stay a few hours and then you

853
01:13:21.520 --> 01:13:26.039
go to a hotel. I think
it' s magical. I think it

854
01:13:26.119 --> 01:13:32.119
' s magical because it reconnects with
the energy of ancient samanism of ancestral peoples

855
01:13:32.119 --> 01:13:35.760
and just come out of almost looking
back at the stars that I think puts

856
01:13:36.199 --> 01:13:41.359
us in our place in the universe. Juanes in magical places, places with

857
01:13:41.560 --> 01:13:45.840
a very special vibration, and I
remember many times I treated you with microphones.

858
01:13:45.239 --> 01:13:51.119
We were talking to you, juanje
of how clearly these kinds of activities

859
01:13:51.119 --> 01:13:55.560
were lost, of those alerts or
my crowds that were doing in your country

860
01:13:55.560 --> 01:14:00.840
towards the decade of the seventies and
eighties, that were social phenomena that you

861
01:14:00.920 --> 01:14:04.359
did not imagine, the number of
people who came to imagine you are doing,

862
01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:09.079
being making a live broadcast at this
moment and someone saying we see a

863
01:14:09.119 --> 01:14:13.000
light to such part and suddenly,
all people were concentrating on the phenomenon.

864
01:14:13.199 --> 01:14:15.760
It was a wonderful thing. I, of course, listened to them deferred,

865
01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:19.840
but I found it impressive to hear
those recordings Juange at that mythical time

866
01:14:19.920 --> 01:14:26.640
of lufology and what Ricardo González Corpancho
was talking about by Alan Heinek Juan.

867
01:14:26.720 --> 01:14:31.600
It should be remembered that in the
Blue Book project there were more than seven

868
01:14:31.680 --> 01:14:35.760
hundred cases that do not have an
official explanation. I look at the more

869
01:14:35.800 --> 01:14:42.439
than seven hundred that, in fact, thanks to the public OMMI hearing that

870
01:14:42.439 --> 01:14:46.239
took place in the United States Congress
last July, parliamentarians promised that they would

871
01:14:46.279 --> 01:14:51.000
review some of those seven hundred cases, they were going to review some of

872
01:14:51.039 --> 01:14:56.039
that case study to verify if,
in fact, the Government of this country

873
01:14:56.079 --> 01:15:00.520
was carrying out OMIS research programs,
which we all know that, but they

874
01:15:00.600 --> 01:15:03.880
officially do not declare it, and
more with a character like Shan Kird Patrick,

875
01:15:04.199 --> 01:15:09.079
that what it does is to deny
everything, because we are quite complicated

876
01:15:09.079 --> 01:15:12.319
in that. Juan just made me
want to throw up when you said without

877
01:15:12.399 --> 01:15:15.399
kir Patrick that the guy who headed
to the office after Luis Elizondo, who

878
01:15:15.399 --> 01:15:18.520
suddenly says there' s nothing here. Yes, there' s no evidence

879
01:15:18.640 --> 01:15:21.119
of anything here and already pathetic,
they keep lying to us. Anyway,

880
01:15:21.319 --> 01:15:38.439
we were longing for those times in
history when we were going to look at

881
01:15:38.560 --> 01:15:42.560
the stars and see if strange lights
appeared. I think we' re in

882
01:15:42.640 --> 01:15:45.359
another time now, in Internet time, and you' ve missed some magic

883
01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:48.199
and romanticism. But well, apart
from being a chive grandfather, you have

884
01:15:48.239 --> 01:15:53.800
to adjust to the times and keep
traveling and keep seeing that. Nobody'

885
01:15:53.880 --> 01:15:57.279
s gonna change it for me.
Finally, gentlemen, and the interview with

886
01:15:57.399 --> 01:16:01.279
Ricardo González Corpancho continues ah Yes,
let' s close to Latin America,

887
01:16:01.479 --> 01:16:05.520
because yes, forgive America Latin America
that there are more places worth. This

888
01:16:05.640 --> 01:16:14.159
would be for three programs, but
let' s start jumping and if we

889
01:16:14.239 --> 01:16:18.119
jump to the other side, let' s go to Spain, because you

890
01:16:18.159 --> 01:16:23.479
talk about San Sebastián, Garabandal and
that place is tremendously special. I'

891
01:16:23.479 --> 01:16:26.840
ve been there. I' ve
been doing a report for a show called

892
01:16:26.960 --> 01:16:31.800
the Fourth Millennium. You interviewed a
lot of witnesses. We also interviewed doctors

893
01:16:31.920 --> 01:16:36.680
who were, for example, when
the phenomena happened. I don' t

894
01:16:36.680 --> 01:16:40.000
remember the case right now. I' m going to sum it up a

895
01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:45.720
little bit. She' s four
very little girls. Suddenly, one night

896
01:16:45.760 --> 01:16:50.239
they' re in an alley,
they say they hear a thunderstorm, and

897
01:16:50.359 --> 01:16:57.399
a lady basically invites them up until
they go up to a place. How

898
01:16:57.439 --> 01:17:00.800
would I explain in places go up
a goat' s way. Practically then

899
01:17:00.880 --> 01:17:06.079
it is a planada where there is
a series of trees and so and I

900
01:17:06.119 --> 01:17:10.199
of that case, then you give
me a hand to say in which year

901
01:17:10.239 --> 01:17:13.760
it was that I don' t
remember right now. In the sixty-

902
01:17:13.960 --> 01:17:18.159
one sixty- one, well I
interviewed a doctor, one of the doctors

903
01:17:18.159 --> 01:17:23.960
who was there, and that interview
I will never forget. There are those

904
01:17:24.039 --> 01:17:28.560
totals there in the fourth millennium report, because the guy told me no I

905
01:17:28.560 --> 01:17:31.680
was skeptical and I went there as
skeptical because I thought the girls were making

906
01:17:32.560 --> 01:17:40.039
fraud and he tells me to stick
the eyeball to a girl and he didn

907
01:17:40.119 --> 01:17:44.199
' t close his eye. That' s what no one' s falsifying

908
01:17:44.199 --> 01:17:46.680
me about. Those girls were in
a trance and seeing something I don'

909
01:17:46.720 --> 01:17:48.640
t know what it was. He
says, but that' s impossible.

910
01:17:49.000 --> 01:17:53.520
I mean, it' s impossible
for me to pinch your eye and you

911
01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:56.319
close my eyelid and tell me it' s impossible. That' s completely

912
01:17:56.319 --> 01:18:00.199
impossible. That testimony struck me.
I was very shocked. There are also

913
01:18:00.279 --> 01:18:06.800
all over the area sightings, omnis
and so forth a lot and for many

914
01:18:06.840 --> 01:18:12.239
people what the girl saw was the
virgin and the virgin gave them a series

915
01:18:12.279 --> 01:18:17.520
of messages, some of them even
quite apocalyptic. If I remember correctly for

916
01:18:17.600 --> 01:18:21.079
many, it is a subject of
faith and belief. To this day it

917
01:18:21.199 --> 01:18:26.199
goes if Canada is still full of
ex- votos of people carrying to ask

918
01:18:26.239 --> 01:18:30.960
things to the virgin and others simply
think it was the fantasy of some girls.

919
01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:35.119
But I assure you that if you
watch the original videos of how the

920
01:18:35.399 --> 01:18:45.119
girls go up their backs on their
knees up the slope until they get to

921
01:18:45.199 --> 01:18:46.720
that planada, you' re not
going to believe that. It' s

922
01:18:46.880 --> 01:18:50.600
not fraud to me either. How
was your experience and your research in San

923
01:18:50.600 --> 01:18:57.920
Sebastián de Gravanda? To Ricardo I
went more than once to Garabandal first thanks

924
01:18:57.960 --> 01:19:02.119
to an investigation of a local goddess
such as Jezabel Bega Castellón, a dear

925
01:19:02.119 --> 01:19:10.800
friend, because we were tracking for
references, for data, for documents that

926
01:19:10.840 --> 01:19:16.720
in the area already had testimonies of
lights that flew over the area and that

927
01:19:16.800 --> 01:19:25.399
there was a disposition of stone pillars
like little ones that were aligned with the

928
01:19:25.479 --> 01:19:30.000
pine forest where the girls had contact
with the mythical sagra rock, as you

929
01:19:30.000 --> 01:19:35.239
know. Then I went to investigate
that and to find one of these stony

930
01:19:35.279 --> 01:19:39.800
sanctuaries that, in fact, in
one of these trips I was colorful Fernández,

931
01:19:40.399 --> 01:19:45.600
with contreras, with urresti and good. Indeed, the evidence was there

932
01:19:45.079 --> 01:19:51.359
and we also interviewed a lot of
people, that is, already entered in

933
01:19:51.399 --> 01:19:57.920
years of what was lived in that
decade of the sixties. The main seer

934
01:19:58.359 --> 01:20:02.279
Conchita González, with no longer found
in Garabandal. I know he' s

935
01:20:02.399 --> 01:20:05.840
in a city in the United States. I' m trying to contact her.

936
01:20:05.880 --> 01:20:09.600
I wrote a book that is unpublished, which is called The Secret of

937
01:20:09.640 --> 01:20:13.960
Mary, which is my investigation of
Marian apparitions, because I believe in my

938
01:20:14.079 --> 01:20:18.479
opinion that the appearance of what has
been the appearance of Garabandal is the key

939
01:20:18.520 --> 01:20:27.520
appearance that highlights Fatima Guadalupe, it
is itun in Egypt, fraud or not

940
01:20:27.560 --> 01:20:33.640
what has happened Medugori whatever one wants. I believe it is the key event

941
01:20:33.640 --> 01:20:39.439
and, in fact, I believe
that You and Bernal have at some point

942
01:20:39.520 --> 01:20:44.800
referred in their program to the prophecies
of Benjamin Solar and Parra Bichini in Jain

943
01:20:44.800 --> 01:20:50.520
Solari. For Bechini he had already
prophesied in his controversial pre- mortem drawings,

944
01:20:51.159 --> 01:20:55.760
his icographs, which he began to
receive since the year nine hundred and

945
01:20:55.920 --> 01:21:00.560
thirty- eight, that the Virgin
would appear in a village of Spain,

946
01:21:00.239 --> 01:21:04.680
that would deliver a message and this
fit perfectly with the Garabandar case, because,

947
01:21:04.840 --> 01:21:10.199
according to the testimony with Chista González, who as they well mentioned,

948
01:21:10.359 --> 01:21:14.079
all kinds of paranormal phenomena, livitations, hosts that fell from the sky and

949
01:21:14.159 --> 01:21:15.840
were placed in the tongue, that
punctured them everywhere. A Jesuit who was

950
01:21:15.840 --> 01:21:18.600
skeptical, the Hebrew father son I
want to see her, I want to

951
01:21:18.640 --> 01:21:20.239
see that I bro the virgin via
the virgin. Then he died, that

952
01:21:20.279 --> 01:21:26.880
is to say, and submitted himself
that same day passed from everything not then

953
01:21:26.880 --> 01:21:31.039
that the appearance of this lady,
of light, of this entity, in

954
01:21:32.319 --> 01:21:36.520
an answer to the Silence of the
Vatican, before the message of fatima that

955
01:21:36.520 --> 01:21:41.079
by evening should have been made known
in a thousand nine hundred and sixty,

956
01:21:41.079 --> 01:21:45.199
did not. John 23 just began
to officially spread in the time of Benedito

957
01:21:45.279 --> 01:21:48.439
sixteen, which he did not read
completely either. According to my news,

958
01:21:48.640 --> 01:21:53.079
what I was able to gather on
my travels to Portugal. Then somehow the

959
01:21:53.119 --> 01:21:58.079
appearance or the entity or intelligence behind
these apparitions is seen and said very well.

960
01:22:00.840 --> 01:22:05.039
Then I am going to appear in
Spain and gave more data than,

961
01:22:05.359 --> 01:22:13.319
in fact, according to my news, Conchita González travels to Italy, meets

962
01:22:13.359 --> 01:22:16.800
with Pope Pablo Vito Pablo Sexto,
who was skeptical of this whole story.

963
01:22:17.359 --> 01:22:23.159
But when the appearances of Egypt occur
in Seitú, a year after the end

964
01:22:23.199 --> 01:22:29.039
of the Six- Day War and
then interview Conchita González with a great contactee,

965
01:22:29.399 --> 01:22:34.279
the stigmatized Pio de Pieltrechina, who
dies a few years later, there

966
01:22:34.319 --> 01:22:40.680
one begins to assemble one of the
unknown and most fascinating stories of contactism,

967
01:22:41.119 --> 01:22:46.079
consés del cielo, places of contact
that existed forever, that is not something

968
01:22:46.119 --> 01:22:49.560
that should call our attention within the
Marian apparitions, because, as well as

969
01:22:49.560 --> 01:22:55.079
garbandaria, it was a sacred place
in ancient times with these stone pillars And

970
01:22:55.159 --> 01:22:59.680
what I just explained if we go
back to the apparitions of Guadalupe, in

971
01:22:59.279 --> 01:23:02.159
En s México, in the hill
of the ppeya there was adored Cuaticre,

972
01:23:02.680 --> 01:23:06.399
to toneing It is much before the
experience of Juan Diego 500 thirty- one

973
01:23:06.479 --> 01:23:10.680
and Cova de Iria, in Portugal, also in a sacred place with countless

974
01:23:10.760 --> 01:23:14.840
sightings of angels and Vaina, long
before Faltima, where it was the dance

975
01:23:14.840 --> 01:23:18.399
of the sun and thousands of people
not only saw that object that it was

976
01:23:18.439 --> 01:23:28.800
an angel, but that took away
from the hair. Okay. Anyway,

977
01:23:29.039 --> 01:23:33.279
there' s a lot of fabric
to cut here good. Basically, summarizing

978
01:23:33.279 --> 01:23:36.560
in San Sebastián de Garabandal, a
place where you have said phenomena. You

979
01:23:36.640 --> 01:23:43.560
are one of the most tremendous that
I have been lucky enough to travel so

980
01:23:43.680 --> 01:23:48.239
many decades in Spain, which is
a country that I love many places that

981
01:23:48.239 --> 01:23:54.600
are incredible, incredible, but Garabandal
is one of the serious things in that

982
01:23:54.600 --> 01:23:58.800
country. Yeah, yeah, they
made me. Thank you because you were

983
01:23:58.960 --> 01:24:01.439
talking about St Mary of Zeitun.
I have once commented on this in the

984
01:24:01.479 --> 01:24:05.439
April program of nineteen hundred and sixty- eight in a very humble neighborhood of

985
01:24:05.439 --> 01:24:12.880
Cairo. Well, it looks.
Yes, yes, you have to go

986
01:24:13.039 --> 01:24:16.319
to Bueno I every year, because
I take the people who arrived, I

987
01:24:16.399 --> 01:24:23.439
take them to Afeitum And well,
since Santa Maria de Zeitún is so exceptional

988
01:24:23.479 --> 01:24:28.880
that a photographer Oacir Rick had time
one night to put a camera trip and

989
01:24:28.960 --> 01:24:32.279
make a photograph that was front page
to New York Times in April of one

990
01:24:32.319 --> 01:24:35.319
thousand nine hundred and sixty- eight
and that I always carry in my wallet.

991
01:24:35.359 --> 01:24:36.920
I don' t know if you
see her or not there she is.

992
01:24:38.479 --> 01:24:42.840
That' s the original, the
image, all the details you have

993
01:24:42.840 --> 01:24:45.319
in your wallet. I always carry
it in my wallet because Santa Maria de

994
01:24:45.520 --> 01:24:49.159
Feitún on a personal level. And
this is on a personal level and I

995
01:24:49.359 --> 01:24:54.560
am neither Catholic nor Christian. For
me it is one of the places that

996
01:24:54.920 --> 01:24:59.079
gives me the most peace in the
world, the energy and what one feels

997
01:24:59.159 --> 01:25:03.600
in Santa Maria de t that in
that particular place, is a bubble with

998
01:25:03.760 --> 01:25:08.600
all the chaos and all that is
around in that neighborhood is a bubble and

999
01:25:08.640 --> 01:25:13.680
it is an unexplained magical thing.
I agree what I have felt in Santa

1000
01:25:13.720 --> 01:25:16.840
Maria and you Ris very special and
with my traveler that every year one of

1001
01:25:16.920 --> 01:25:20.359
the stops in Cairo is Santa Maria
de Ti Tun, I have had experiences

1002
01:25:20.359 --> 01:25:27.239
of super curious respect and I just
came to tell you the story of the

1003
01:25:27.239 --> 01:25:30.279
apparitions. Now there' s a
video in Spanish. It is also to

1004
01:25:30.319 --> 01:25:33.840
put a video in Spanish where you
see some of the photographs you can buy

1005
01:25:33.840 --> 01:25:40.159
this photo. Well, it'
s three cents pregnant and I' ve

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01:25:40.199 --> 01:25:43.560
had some experiences with both the travelers
I carry and personally, because it'

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01:25:43.600 --> 01:25:46.640
s a place that gives me tremendous
peace. Well, the naser himself ordered

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01:25:46.680 --> 01:25:49.800
the Cairo light to be cut off, and that keeps popping up. The

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01:25:49.880 --> 01:25:55.359
Vatican sent a commission from Saria to
the next correct Egypt. Yes, because

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01:25:55.399 --> 01:25:58.920
he was a socialist. He did
not like the theme of the Virgin very

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01:25:59.000 --> 01:26:02.239
much and that does continue to appear
and for me it is a very special

1012
01:26:02.239 --> 01:26:08.119
place. Alejandro Bernal wanted to comment
on that about sebastian of garabandal on your

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01:26:08.159 --> 01:26:11.680
YouTube channel hidden behind the shadow.
There is an episode that is titled how

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01:26:11.680 --> 01:26:16.760
the UFO phenomenon has influenced religion,
where we expose the record of a resident

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01:26:16.880 --> 01:26:21.399
of the area, where one literally
sees the OMNI sighting of an object,

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01:26:21.640 --> 01:26:29.600
making really impressive movements. Juange to
also invite Ricardo and all listeners to watch

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01:26:29.720 --> 01:26:34.760
this video how the OMNI phenomenon has
influenced religion. A testimony, a video

1018
01:26:34.840 --> 01:26:40.600
document about an impressive sighting in that
region of Spain. Jon Yes, indeed,

1019
01:26:41.680 --> 01:26:44.039
our good friend who passed us those
videos, I just lost the name.

1020
01:26:44.359 --> 01:26:46.279
I' ve got it over here. Alfonso. Alberto A Alberto,

1021
01:26:46.640 --> 01:26:53.000
Alberto, I forget milk. Alberto, Casa, Alberto Casa, passed us

1022
01:26:53.119 --> 01:26:56.720
those videos and just like when he
wanted to, Ricardo passed you the contact,

1023
01:26:57.079 --> 01:27:01.199
because he has videos of Omnis there
in garavandarse knows how to band Omnia

1024
01:27:01.199 --> 01:27:03.800
' s theme there. I think
he' s the best. So it

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01:27:03.840 --> 01:27:08.640
' s a fascinating story. Well
let' s see if it gives us

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01:27:08.680 --> 01:27:13.279
time to one in Asia, good
or Africa, because talking about interdimensional portals

1027
01:27:13.319 --> 01:27:17.640
and not mentioning Egypt is like getting
kicked out of snails. Okay then I

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01:27:17.760 --> 01:27:24.079
think he plays and another day I
annoy you Ricardo in a few months and

1029
01:27:24.079 --> 01:27:26.319
we do others. And it'
s in Egypt. I think that is,

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01:27:26.479 --> 01:27:30.960
we cannot trace interdimensional portals without talking
about Egypt, without r of Egypt,

1031
01:27:30.039 --> 01:27:36.960
without talking about the three huge pyramids
on the Giza plateau. I always

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01:27:38.079 --> 01:27:40.800
tell the people who accompany me when
we go to Giza, we' re

1033
01:27:41.199 --> 01:27:44.159
there and you' re seeing what' s supposed to be from the fourth

1034
01:27:44.239 --> 01:27:45.479
Dynasty, that I don' t
think I know about the fourth Dynasty.

1035
01:27:45.720 --> 01:27:48.920
You' re going to walk another
world. What was done there, what

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01:27:49.159 --> 01:27:54.119
happened there, has no explanation for
me and is a will in stone that

1037
01:27:54.159 --> 01:28:00.159
challenges us. The ancient Egyptians thought
that the Duat was represented by the three

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01:28:00.239 --> 01:28:08.760
stars of the constellation Orion. And
really, how Robert Bauball Adrian Gilberts,

1039
01:28:09.239 --> 01:28:13.640
the researchers, demonstrated. The three
pyramids would be reflecting the orion belt on

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01:28:13.640 --> 01:28:17.000
earth, not only in its formation, but even in its size and so

1041
01:28:17.079 --> 01:28:23.039
on, what it thinks of the
mystery of mysteries. Dear friend Ricardo Well,

1042
01:28:23.039 --> 01:28:30.399
in Egypt is a fascinating country,
incredible and very shocking in all aspects.

1043
01:28:31.199 --> 01:28:34.960
And if we talk about places of
contact, I think Egypt is one

1044
01:28:35.039 --> 01:28:43.159
of the most important regions of the
world, and I' m short beyond

1045
01:28:43.159 --> 01:28:45.960
the pyramids that I' m going
to return to in a few minutes.

1046
01:28:45.000 --> 01:28:49.279
But there are many other places in
Egypt that are incredible and where there are

1047
01:28:50.319 --> 01:28:55.760
even no constructions, for example,
the Sinai Peninsula, the Ereb Mount where

1048
01:28:55.880 --> 01:29:00.079
Moses had his contact with the divinity, which received the tables of the law

1049
01:29:00.159 --> 01:29:04.279
We have had sightings and experiences when
we have made expeditions to the temple there

1050
01:29:04.279 --> 01:29:08.119
we have slept on the summit.
We have waited for dawn, as many

1051
01:29:08.119 --> 01:29:14.359
do, not the mountain that usually
everyone ascends, but the one that is

1052
01:29:14.760 --> 01:29:18.119
involved with the orthodous monastery of Saint
Catherine, which they really know the truth.

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01:29:19.079 --> 01:29:25.239
So said this, suddenly to the
pyramid is without subtracting the great pyramid

1054
01:29:25.319 --> 01:29:29.000
of Guisa, without subtracting merit,
to its construction, to its geometry,

1055
01:29:29.159 --> 01:29:33.640
to its architectural wonder, is not
as important as the place where it was

1056
01:29:33.640 --> 01:29:39.760
built. That' s my theory. As we speak of the Marian apparitions,

1057
01:29:40.319 --> 01:29:44.239
the sightings of Omnis, Sometimes the
place was already important. Then the

1058
01:29:44.319 --> 01:29:49.000
pyramid would be just an amplifier,
a wonderful place that was placed in an

1059
01:29:49.119 --> 01:29:53.680
area where, perhaps even though this
is incomprehensible, what I' m going

1060
01:29:53.680 --> 01:29:57.640
to say, lines of strength come
together or where there was some historical event

1061
01:29:57.880 --> 01:30:02.520
in the past and placed there those
pyramids of stew. Now, having said

1062
01:30:02.520 --> 01:30:09.239
this, the force catalysts that are
built like temples in ancient Peru, and

1063
01:30:09.239 --> 01:30:12.680
this we know very well for their
geometry, for their building material, as

1064
01:30:12.720 --> 01:30:17.319
their day. Also in the case
of the great pyramid, scholars said,

1065
01:30:17.960 --> 01:30:25.760
as otodun that in the King'
s Chamber, the material of the Chamber

1066
01:30:25.800 --> 01:30:28.560
or is the sarcophagus of the King' s Chamber, has fifty- five

1067
01:30:28.680 --> 01:30:32.800
percent quartz silicon and that, by
empathy as sound, it can generate an

1068
01:30:32.880 --> 01:30:35.560
electrical floor effect, that is,
through mantras or some ritual with sound.

1069
01:30:38.199 --> 01:30:43.079
I think that all that is not
by chance and we have experienced it on

1070
01:30:43.079 --> 01:30:46.159
occasions that we had some moment of
intimacy beyond tourism, within the great pyramid,

1071
01:30:46.640 --> 01:30:51.359
all this, obviously, could sound
like conjecture and for an orthodox archaeologist

1072
01:30:51.479 --> 01:30:58.640
or historian. The things we'
re talking about and they' re tearing

1073
01:30:58.640 --> 01:31:02.439
up the clothes right now. But
all Egyptian culture speaks of these gates to

1074
01:31:02.439 --> 01:31:05.880
the afterlife, these blind doors,
these places that connect with the stars.

1075
01:31:08.000 --> 01:31:11.720
There are a number of traditions.
For example, the Rosicrucians know much about

1076
01:31:11.720 --> 01:31:15.439
Egypt in the mystical sense. I
know it by my own flesh, because

1077
01:31:15.439 --> 01:31:20.279
I have that formation of decades that
over the centuries, throughout the centuries archaeologists,

1078
01:31:20.479 --> 01:31:27.119
many God who were the sacrutes,
investigated the place initiatically understood that certain

1079
01:31:27.319 --> 01:31:31.319
temples of Egypt connect in no two
or edges of the earth to connect with

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01:31:31.399 --> 01:31:36.600
the Duat and also with other places
that have been wildly taken out of context

1081
01:31:36.680 --> 01:31:42.439
with the mythical halls. So it' s not necessarily hell or the dark

1082
01:31:42.560 --> 01:31:45.840
or the catacombs of Anubis, as
some say. All this is very complex

1083
01:31:45.880 --> 01:31:50.880
to explain, but yes, Egypt
is one of the portals to the beyond

1084
01:31:51.439 --> 01:31:56.159
and also to space. Indeed,
I am clear and curious, too,

1085
01:31:56.560 --> 01:31:59.680
because when I take people from each
of the temples, I feel different things.

1086
01:32:02.399 --> 01:32:05.279
I, for example, the temple
that connects me most with the stars,

1087
01:32:05.319 --> 01:32:11.560
which is curious, because one of
their intentions was to connect with the

1088
01:32:11.560 --> 01:32:14.479
stars. It is the temple of
Dendera, the temple of the goddess Attor,

1089
01:32:14.760 --> 01:32:18.239
the house of Attor, where on
its terrace we will see the Zodia.

1090
01:32:18.279 --> 01:32:21.399
Well, Dendra' s zodiac,
it was stolen by the French Okay,

1091
01:32:21.960 --> 01:32:27.119
but we have a replica of Detendra' s zodiac, because on that

1092
01:32:27.239 --> 01:32:30.119
terrace there were rituals where men were
twinning their fate with the stars. And

1093
01:32:30.520 --> 01:32:34.199
for me it' s super curious
and places that I' ve never been

1094
01:32:34.199 --> 01:32:38.640
telling you before I start, I
want to go this year if God wants

1095
01:32:38.720 --> 01:32:41.960
me to go to buuraf amugur Upson
on my own. Well, it'

1096
01:32:42.039 --> 01:32:44.920
s two temples, okay, but
it' s only good. Neither one

1097
01:32:44.960 --> 01:32:48.119
of them is well preserved. But
it' s a crazy thing because they

1098
01:32:48.119 --> 01:32:53.239
' re really from the fifth dynasty
and it' s a temple that has

1099
01:32:53.279 --> 01:32:56.359
nothing to do with how the rest
of the temples are built, because it

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01:32:56.439 --> 01:33:00.520
was just for the Saraon or the
Pharaoh or some priests, where there'

1101
01:33:00.560 --> 01:33:05.479
s a geome figure in the center
that' s from alabaster behind, an

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01:33:05.520 --> 01:33:10.960
obelisk that symbolized the ray of sun
with which ra creates life on earth and

1103
01:33:11.039 --> 01:33:15.680
a very small temple and in a
place to get in direct contact also with

1104
01:33:15.720 --> 01:33:17.520
the stars, the pharaoh or the
priests. I want to go see those

1105
01:33:17.960 --> 01:33:21.840
places because he' s talking about
that face and we don' t talk

1106
01:33:23.359 --> 01:33:30.760
about the side aspects of the journey
beyond. You don' t expect a

1107
01:33:30.760 --> 01:33:31.840
thousand places. Guys, we'
re getting to the end of the interview.

1108
01:33:31.920 --> 01:33:38.199
I feel sorry for another day we
do something else or I will bother

1109
01:33:38.279 --> 01:33:42.479
you enchanted in a few months Ricardo
whenever I talk to you is a pleasure,

1110
01:33:43.640 --> 01:33:46.560
because learn a lot you are a
brave to tell not only your experience,

1111
01:33:46.640 --> 01:33:49.319
but also you have documented yourself,
you have traveled to places and you

1112
01:33:49.399 --> 01:33:54.000
teach people of culture. And that' s what I find most wonderful,

1113
01:33:54.079 --> 01:33:57.680
because the mystery of culture. We' ve done a history program today.

1114
01:33:58.159 --> 01:34:02.560
Yet, through its most fantastic aspects. But those fantastic aspects remain an intrinsic

1115
01:34:02.600 --> 01:34:09.439
part of all human beings on the
planet. Ricardo, my friend, your

1116
01:34:09.439 --> 01:34:12.640
conclusion, your closure, your social
networks, so that people can follow you

1117
01:34:12.880 --> 01:34:16.760
and must follow this book, which
is places of contact that, I repeat,

1118
01:34:17.640 --> 01:34:20.399
you can find very easy through Amazon
throughout Latin America and in Spain,

1119
01:34:21.560 --> 01:34:27.680
thanks to you son, Jesus and
Amen ale Bernal, for his invitation and

1120
01:34:27.840 --> 01:34:32.640
also for everything they are doing.
My only conclusion is that, as we

1121
01:34:32.760 --> 01:34:36.359
search for a place of contact,
we are looking for ourselves. It'

1122
01:34:36.399 --> 01:34:43.039
s like a mirror. We are
simply remembering and for those who want to

1123
01:34:43.199 --> 01:34:46.680
follow my work, as I said
they can find me social networks like Ricardo

1124
01:34:46.680 --> 01:34:53.039
González Corpancho, on Facebook, on
Instagram, on my official website, Ricardo

1125
01:34:53.319 --> 01:34:57.039
González Official, point how we are
alone. Thank you, my friend,

1126
01:34:57.279 --> 01:34:59.359
of course you' re not here
until you have a big hug. I

1127
01:34:59.399 --> 01:35:02.000
wish you well on your travels and
we will stay in touch. And so

1128
01:35:02.119 --> 01:35:06.239
ended the interview with Ricardo González Corpancho, that the truth has seemed wonderful and

1129
01:35:06.239 --> 01:35:11.560
I have not given us time.
We haven' t had time to get

1130
01:35:11.600 --> 01:35:15.439
into Asia, that is, it' s already in Africa. We could

1131
01:35:15.439 --> 01:35:18.239
have commented on another site, but
look at the number of places in Latin

1132
01:35:18.239 --> 01:35:21.359
America. I was thinking about Asia, I was, for example, thinking

1133
01:35:21.439 --> 01:35:28.359
about the island of Java, the
temples of Borogudur, which is the largest

1134
01:35:28.439 --> 01:35:31.199
Buddhist temple complex in the world,
where there are pyramids, for example,

1135
01:35:31.199 --> 01:35:35.319
that are mind- blowing. I
was thinking about Cambodia, the temples of

1136
01:35:35.359 --> 01:35:40.279
Ancor. By the way, the
Asian Sudista is getting super- fashiony to

1137
01:35:41.239 --> 01:35:45.439
make mystery author trips. I promise
that next year I will go because it

1138
01:35:45.520 --> 01:35:48.880
is a destination that I want,
I want to open and open it in

1139
01:35:48.920 --> 01:35:53.640
conditions and document myself a little bit
more on site of those places that have

1140
01:35:53.720 --> 01:35:58.239
a lot to do with Buddhism,
plus and that are authentic by such interdimensional,

1141
01:35:59.479 --> 01:36:02.399
but well, there are four less
missing from the program and I'

1142
01:36:02.439 --> 01:36:05.439
m going to ask Alejandro Bernal if
they would give you the option of getting

1143
01:36:05.479 --> 01:36:06.600
a plane to go to one of
those places tomorrow, which one would catch

1144
01:36:06.600 --> 01:36:11.159
it and why. Well, I
think that, as you will know Juange

1145
01:36:11.239 --> 01:36:15.880
and I have manifested it in various
podcasts here on mystery night, because Egypt

1146
01:36:16.119 --> 01:36:19.319
is really the most enigmatic and most
wonderful place in the world. I think

1147
01:36:19.359 --> 01:36:24.560
being in the temple of Avidos,
being inside the Pyramid, the great pyramid,

1148
01:36:24.760 --> 01:36:29.600
keos or appreciating that great magic and
mysticism of Egypt seems wonderful to me.

1149
01:36:30.560 --> 01:36:35.960
But Juan Ge, staying with one
who is South American and as well

1150
01:36:35.960 --> 01:36:41.960
we talked about it also in other
spaces, Juan gees for some researchers,

1151
01:36:42.560 --> 01:36:46.199
at least for the national socialists,
specifically, for the Nenervel vestige of Atlantis,

1152
01:36:47.000 --> 01:36:49.399
here, in Latin America. I
would love to go to tiaguanaco,

1153
01:36:49.880 --> 01:36:55.239
I would love to appreciate the Puerta
del Sol. That apparent calendar, at

1154
01:36:55.279 --> 01:37:00.039
least so, was seen by ednun
keys of one of a cataclysm that occurs

1155
01:37:00.159 --> 01:37:06.479
on our planet millions of years ago, the vestige of a highly technological civilization,

1156
01:37:06.960 --> 01:37:12.199
highly advanced and that plays that will
in stone that legacy of that Gate

1157
01:37:12.199 --> 01:37:15.319
of the Sun. I really want
to know that part of our continent play.

1158
01:37:15.560 --> 01:37:17.319
Yeah, it' s a wonder, it' s a mystery.

1159
01:37:17.359 --> 01:37:23.279
Not because, moreover, speaking of
interdimensional portals, go Titicaca is fundamental,

1160
01:37:23.960 --> 01:37:28.079
not only the temples of the Sun
and the Moon that are on the Bolivian

1161
01:37:28.119 --> 01:37:31.399
side, but the Andean legends tell
us about Viracocha, not the viracocha that

1162
01:37:31.479 --> 01:37:39.560
all came out of Lake Titicaca and
from there spread the culture around the known

1163
01:37:39.640 --> 01:37:44.359
world and that were responsible for the
knowledge of the Incas. I mean,

1164
01:37:44.520 --> 01:37:46.800
it' s a very, very
magical place and it' s normal for

1165
01:37:46.880 --> 01:37:51.319
the Nazis, through the energy of
that group that they had of intellectuals,

1166
01:37:53.279 --> 01:37:56.159
to search the world. And one
of the places that they thought might be

1167
01:37:56.199 --> 01:38:00.520
a vestige of Atlantis and ancient,
of the ancient civilization in which men and

1168
01:38:00.560 --> 01:38:04.960
God lived together was thiaguanaco, which
has min enigmas, for example, the

1169
01:38:05.159 --> 01:38:11.600
fountain Magna, a fountain of stone
where inscriptions in ancient Sumerian appear. So,

1170
01:38:12.840 --> 01:38:15.439
yes, of course, it'
s a wonderful place, because I

1171
01:38:15.479 --> 01:38:20.319
' m looking forward to exploring the
Far East right now, that is,

1172
01:38:20.479 --> 01:38:25.560
Southeast Asia. Yeah, Southeast Asia. Those places I was telling you about,

1173
01:38:25.760 --> 01:38:30.960
not just Java and Urupal. You
have to go to Concta in a

1174
01:38:30.000 --> 01:38:33.920
palan in Indonesia, but already the
trip is going to be a little long

1175
01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:36.840
and then also, for example,
go to China, Go to China to

1176
01:38:36.960 --> 01:38:43.760
the mountains of Gudán, the mountains
where the spirits of the immortals live,

1177
01:38:44.359 --> 01:38:47.119
with which you can communicate the fathers
of Taoism. You saw him at Kunfupanda

1178
01:38:47.800 --> 01:38:55.039
Vale. That' s basically the
monasteries and temples of Gudan. Then,

1179
01:38:55.159 --> 01:39:00.239
because all that, my friend,
your closing and your conclusions, Ricardo González

1180
01:39:00.600 --> 01:39:08.359
Colpancho, we made a selection and
a tour of different places in the world,

1181
01:39:09.079 --> 01:39:13.119
various interdimensional doors, and I keep
something that you said in the interview

1182
01:39:13.159 --> 01:39:17.239
that seems super punctual and super important
to me when it comes to addressing these

1183
01:39:17.239 --> 01:39:23.439
themes here in mystery night, and
that is that we made a historical tour

1184
01:39:23.479 --> 01:39:27.640
through the eyes of magic. At
all times we talked about history, we

1185
01:39:27.640 --> 01:39:31.560
speculated, we gave data, we
gave dates, we gave researchers, we

1186
01:39:31.720 --> 01:39:36.399
gave names, but we wanted to
see it through magic, history, mysticism.

1187
01:39:36.920 --> 01:39:43.279
And I think spaces like these show
that mystery is culture that we can

1188
01:39:43.479 --> 01:39:47.479
always revive and re- analyze history
with the eyes of a child, with

1189
01:39:47.600 --> 01:39:51.119
the eyes of curiosity, with the
eyes of magic, of mystery and of

1190
01:39:51.199 --> 01:39:56.840
the enormous questions that we still have
to answer in our world and I can

1191
01:39:56.840 --> 01:40:00.199
follow on social networks on Twitter,
Instagram and tiktok in arroba a bernal pres

1192
01:40:00.399 --> 01:40:03.800
and if you like my work,
I invite you to subscribe to my YouTube

1193
01:40:03.960 --> 01:40:11.800
channel. Mandragora Misterius Mandragora Mysteries on
YouTube. And I usually say that I

1194
01:40:11.840 --> 01:40:17.520
am convinced that those points marked by
our ancestors in different places on the planet

1195
01:40:17.800 --> 01:40:24.359
are places where our imagination and our
soul can fly, it can get closer

1196
01:40:24.439 --> 01:40:29.920
to the gods, it can get
closer to the divine, it can feel

1197
01:40:30.079 --> 01:40:34.600
the light of the Angels and see
with our mind what may be in far

1198
01:40:35.039 --> 01:40:40.279
- away worlds and other stars.
It was done by the ancient shamans and

1199
01:40:40.399 --> 01:40:44.920
by the ancient priests of those sacred
sites. Today, we, with our

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01:40:45.000 --> 01:40:49.159
technology, already seem unable to dream
and never, never forget that we live

1201
01:40:49.239 --> 01:41:00.279
in a magical world, because it
is full of mystery