June 19, 2024
La búsqueda extraterrestre

Megaestructuras extraterrestres
Juan Jesús Vallejo habla sobre el físico Freeman Dyson, cuando en los años sesenta teorizó sobre la posibilidad que civilizaciones extraterrestres utilizarán la energía de una estrella completa; para esto había que...
Megaestructuras extraterrestres
Juan Jesús Vallejo habla sobre el físico Freeman Dyson, cuando en los años sesenta teorizó sobre la posibilidad que civilizaciones extraterrestres utilizarán la energía de una estrella completa; para esto había que hacer alrededor de la estrella, superestructuras para así poder absorber la energía. Esto haría que las estrellas obserbadas desde la tierra mostraran diferente anomalías desde un telescopio.
En este capítulo nos cuenta que la teoría de Dyson ha sido noticia, lo que probocó que diferentes grupos de investigación de universidades de prestigio mundial localizaran diferentes estrellas en el firmamento que podrían estar cubiertas con estas famosas megaestructuras.
La ciencia lo que está haciendo ultimamente es buscar civilizaciones extraterrestres.
Conoce más detalles sobre estas investigaciones.
¡Descubre más sobre los hallazgos extraterrestres en este episodio fascinante!
Juan Jesús Vallejo habla sobre el físico Freeman Dyson, cuando en los años sesenta teorizó sobre la posibilidad que civilizaciones extraterrestres utilizarán la energía de una estrella completa; para esto había que hacer alrededor de la estrella, superestructuras para así poder absorber la energía. Esto haría que las estrellas obserbadas desde la tierra mostraran diferente anomalías desde un telescopio.
En este capítulo nos cuenta que la teoría de Dyson ha sido noticia, lo que probocó que diferentes grupos de investigación de universidades de prestigio mundial localizaran diferentes estrellas en el firmamento que podrían estar cubiertas con estas famosas megaestructuras.
La ciencia lo que está haciendo ultimamente es buscar civilizaciones extraterrestres.
Conoce más detalles sobre estas investigaciones.
¡Descubre más sobre los hallazgos extraterrestres en este episodio fascinante!
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Or, in fact, time all
the way there. My name is Juan
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Jesús Vallejos and journalist, writer and
director of the Mystery Night program on Caracol
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Radio. In the 1960s, a
physicist Freeman Dyson theorized about the possibility of
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extraterrestrial civilizations using the energy of an
entire star to do this. He had
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to make superstructures, mega structures around
that star so he could absorb his energy.
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This would make those stars, if
viewed from the ground, give different
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anomalies in the telescope. Well,
then, what was theorized in the sixties
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of the last century, just a
few weeks ago has been news, and
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it is that different group of research
cordiaes by universities of world prestige have located
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different stars in the firmament that could
be covered by one of these famous megastructures
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of dison and is that science what
is doing lately and this is very newsable,
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is that it has taken seriously to
look for extraterrestrial civilizations. But if
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you want to know about this and
much more, don' t lose the
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mystery night podcast on Caracol Radio the
extraterrestrial search night and mystery Joan Jesús Vallejo.
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It was a normal afternoon, just
like any other. I am talking
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about July of the year nineteen hundred
and ninety- six and that afternoon a
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peasant from the Spanish province of jaén
of a village called the villains, went
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out for a walk, as he
did every afternoon in that afternoon, in
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those summer days when it was about
sunset and it was less hot. Well,
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this Mr DionisioÃvila, an illiterate
peasant, did not know how to
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read or write. He went out
to walk quietly and sat down, as
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he did so many other times,
right next to a small Era, it
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was a place where the wheat is
threshed. Well, and when DionisioÃvila
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was sitting there, he commented and
I was lucky enough to be with him,
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he commented how suddenly he saw a
semi- spherical metallic object. That
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intrigued him and thought that semi-
spherical metal object would be some kind of
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good container of forest services. But
he intrigued him, so he got up.
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It approached until the semispheric, metallic
object and just when it was a
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few meters near it already very close. He comments that there is a moment
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when when when the object passes certain
meters, it kind of blurs it makes
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him very nervous, he turns back, he sees perfectly the object and when
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he sees again perfectly the object,
he comments on how there are two women
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and a man. He didn'
t talk about aliens or anything like that.
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Just two women and a man.
And John ge said to me There
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were two women and a man,
because they had very tight suits and they
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were noticed what was in the crotch, with which two women and a man.
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That' s how I talked about
it. There was this gentleman and
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just when he' s looking at
those beings, I repeat being of his
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hand like you and as I was
saying he had a little olive in his
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skin. But perfectly normal, lying
in a dark grey monkey, he comments
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how at that very moment from the
ship he comes out as a spherite of
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light that falls right at his feet, looks at him, looks down and
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realizes that it is a stone with
a series of engravings. Curious because on
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that stone there was an engraving that
was a stick, a zero and a
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stick as if it were a hundred
one, but completely straight. The stick.
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Palito, zero stick, just stick, zero stick is what he saw.
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Also, in that semi- spherical
metallic object, when DionisioÃvila bends
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down and takes that stone with that
engraving. When raising his head, he
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sees neither the semi- spherical metallic
object nor the three beings who were looking
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at him. Scared to death,
he runs away and leaves for his home.
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Weeks later, two reporters I know
pretty well. I' m friends
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with them. I worked with them
for many years. In addition, two
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reporters working at that time in Enigma
magazine, Lorenzo Fernández Bueno and Iker Jiménez,
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today very well known. One presents
documentaries on Discovery Channel and the other
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runs a program called Cuarto Millennio in
Spain on television. Well, then,
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these two friends, who are reporters, are headed for s to this locality.
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De Jaén because there were also people
who had filmed in those same days
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of July of the year nineteen hundred
and ninety- six. They had filmed
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an omni, there were a lot
of witnesses to a luminous object at night
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one night. And it' s
very curious because when I' m with
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Lorenzo and he tells me this story, he tells me about the stick zero
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stick. I' m telling you, you' re not gonna believe it,
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but that' s the same thing
in the same symbols. A friend
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of mine made them for me His
name is Sad. A few days ago
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Juan told me about Gas Foolishness.
I say I tell you that he has
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made me the same symbols. And
he also told me that it' s
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a type of writing that' s
called tipinag berever writing. And, well,
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that' s what' s left. I was told no more the
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stone and the symbols of the stone. All this has already been done by
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a well- known writer named JJ
Benitez. I sent a letter to JJ
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Benita. JJ BenÃtez called me on
the phone that we' re having lunch.
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That' s where I met him. Then I worked with him.
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In this case I calculate a couple
of years or more And when I am
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with Juan José BenÃtez and we comment
this story and show me the symbols that
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are in the stone and there is
the stick zero stick as it appeared in
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the object of hemispheric, metallic call
it an omnic what I think was also
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we said well, because we will
interview someone who really knows about this and
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we went to interview a Mr Rashir
Rahadmet, who was belonging to the European
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Arab Foundation. And he' s
quite a scholar in Berber issues in North
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Africa. And it' s funny
because when we' re sitting there asking
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this gentleman to hear zero stick stop
a Berber word, yes or no,
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and he told me for me I' m not clear about this. I
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' m not sure. I don' t know why you ask me this
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and so on and we just turned
our heads to the right and there was
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a poster of a stone in a
museum in Rabat and right in the middle
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it carries the symbols sticks, zero
stick, which are the word them or
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them. And this thing I'
m telling you is not science, fiction.
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It was lived by a servant.
You have asked me many times in
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networks want me to tell this story. I told it in a book,
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in the Andalusian operation. He never
told it here on Caracol Radio. I
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promise on my YouTube channel if it' s hidden behind the shadows and it
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' s, but good one day. I' m counting it here on
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Caracol Radio. With all luxury of
detail, because it is a very,
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very, very long investigation that lasted
year and my milk reflections and if we
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have them and they are trying as
one with us, in this case,
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through one of the oldest alphabets that
exists in the world, the typhinaj,
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as if thousands of years ago they
had been here, in North Africa and
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had been in contact with civilizations that
had an ancient criture and they also learned
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to do it, to express themselves
through that writing. Zero stick, stick
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them or them. It would be
said, to be exact, neither without
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them nor of them, an eternal
message that looks at us from the stars
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and that makes us reflect and makes
us think about really we have them in
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front of us and we are still
not able to understand ourselves with them or
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maybe they come here. They watch
us, they don' t wink,
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but they leave us to our free
will. The lords who are in the
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stars and the science that is increasingly
seeking life out of our planet as well.
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And that' s what today'
s program is about, how far
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science is coming, and how far, for example, new scientific research is
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coming that is covered by the pentagon
in news that, for sure, or
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will intrigue our fellow stars who occasionally
wink at us to remind us that they
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are still there. My name is
Juan Jesús Vallejo. What you want to
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follow me on social networks, on
my tweets Juan que Vallejo, Juan j
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Vallejo, on Instagram, on Facebook
Juan Jesús Vallejo. And this is another
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mystery night show. And here what
we do is mystery journalism. We oppose
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the facts on the table and you
decide what is behind it and not what
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you think of this story that I
have told you at the beginning of the
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program, in the introduction the famous
case Villares, in the town of Los
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Billares, Jaén Andalusia, Spain,
which, in the end the dessert,
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was possibly one of the most important
omni cases of the decade of the nineties
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at the Spanish level, sure and
if I hurry, at the European level,
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they too. Or of them three
letters Palo zero Palo that were written
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thousands of years ago in the Sahara
desert and that today also continue to be
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written. The tiffinac That alphabet is
an alphabet that is still completely alive.
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You know I' m doing copyright
trips. The information of these trips is
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available on the website three Viajes Juan
Jesús Vallejo com I repeat Viajes Juan Jesús
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valle com From September 22nd to October
1st of this year I will be in
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Egypt walking by the magic of the
pyramids and navigating the Nile to immerse us
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in all the mystery of some temples
that boast this river of life and that
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have a magic that today remains intact
and I assure you after forming. Whatever
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you want to point to that trip. I repeat all the information on the
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website Viajes Juan Jesús Vallejo com and
we start without curse. Alejandro Bernal,
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partner friend, how you are Very
well, Juan, I have a greeting
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for you, also for Richie in
the controls, for our exceptional guests of
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this program. Rodrigo Bravo from Chile, Fernando I from Brandan from Argentina,
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also a huge embrace for all the
people who consume this content through the podcast
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that we publish on the YouTube channel
of Caracol Radio Juange today a program of
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net current on the OMNI phenomenon,
on scientific projects, on news at the
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media level, on this great mystery
that we are so passionate about you think
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about what I commented on at the
beginning. We' re already obsessed now
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with looking for biosignature exoplanet. I
don' t know that in the universe
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with remains of life we asked both
Fernando and Rodrigo that they sure know they
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' re going to go to that
kind of news, because they say that
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soon they' re going to publicly
announce that life has already been found outside
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the earth, but you don'
t find it a bit curious, this
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a little paradoxical. Come look at
the stars and we have cases are sample
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mignos that are here, even that
handle very ancient alphabets, as is the
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case of the berber Juange. And
especially because I think that this scientific approach,
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while very respectable, I think that
we are also forgetting to see our
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world and who tells us if on
our planet we have been coexisting with a
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different civilization than the human one I
have made is an approach that I hope
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to talk about later here in the
program a research from Harvard University that poses
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this possibility, which is really amazing. Indeed, looking at the stars and
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perhaps the stars have come down here
and we have them in front of us
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and we have not been able to
see them, not because we have a
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mind, perhaps too much optus in
a certain sense. And those who know
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a lot about the OMNI phenomenon are
the guests we have tonight, who have
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already heard them countless times. They
are regular collaborators of mystery night and for
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me it is a pride and pleasure
that they are here tonight and we start
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for Chile, for the lands of
the South. There, in Punta Arenas,
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is our friend Rodrigo. Bravo Rodrigo, friend, Good night, how
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you are, Juan Jesús, Good
night, I hear you, I listen
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perfectly, friend, very good night. I vote to Saluarte the same,
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Alejandro and for Fernando, who then
does not also look to give his health
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a special hug from the southern Punta
Arenas, all snowy, all white,
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expected temperatures of fifteen years under zero
goes this week, so we are enjoying
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the winter in full. That'
s good, because I love doing a
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show. Yes, Chile, Argentina, Colombia, all South American brothers here
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tonight go that is also there listening
to us and being part again at night
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of mystery our good friend Fernando gil
de Bran, who is the director of
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the YouTube channel the sign science and
mystery. Where I assure you that you
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are going to find the best interviews
of the Omni theme in the whole continent,
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because I do not know how Fernando
is able to interview everyone, who
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then we do not have to ask
about the issue of Omua. It'
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s an asteroid and a villo ed
that since I think chafs is when Argentina
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goes, it' s going to
take a ferné there when with Fernando Seguro,
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Mr Avilo ep professor at Harvard University, Fernando, fellow friend, good
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night, how you are good,
but very good night juange and everyone.
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So, thank you, Rodrigo,
thank you Sale, thank you for the
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happy invitation to be tonight sharing these
mysteries and also the science that finally messes
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with the mysteries and opens the fourth. That' s where you just nailed
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him and that' s what it' s all about tonight' s show.
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Science seems to suddenly come out of
the closet and say good. Listen
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let' s start looking at the
stars and this extra program we' re
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doing, because the other day Rodrigo
told me, Bravo like this in private
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told me listen Juan that you have
seen the news that has come out on
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the subject of Dyson' s spheres. For people to understand, understand this.
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There was a physicist in the 1960s, Freemandison, who commented that a
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great civilization might come to have the
acidic layer of using the energy of a
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star. So, to do that, to use the energy of a star,
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I would have to do it around
that star. Let' s say
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imagine putting a bunch of satellites,
solar partners to catch that energy either like
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some kind of big belt, or
make some kind of bubble. And if
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this really is physical theory Freemandison'
s, Dyson' s spheres are real
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this would be observable. They would
be stars that have a different light from
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the rest of the stars and suddenly, science has started to investigate this seriously
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and different universities, such as Upsala' s in Sweden, as they have
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selected a group of stars in objects. It' s seven stars. They
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' re not such a scattered group. Seven stars who are convinced that they
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could obey this pattern said by physicist
freemandson Rodrigo Bravo. Why did you get
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so caught up in this news Good
Look. I was mainly struck by the
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type of publication where this became known. Note that this publication, as well
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as you will teach from Upsala University, of an astrophysicist I understand, is
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being his doctorate, the young MatÃas, suazo along with eight, actually nine,
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because she joins a researcher named Gabriela
Contardo of the International School of Advanced
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Studies of Italy. They published an
article in the Monty and notais of Royal
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Astronomic Society, that is, the
monthly news of the Royal Astronomical Academy or
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the Astronomical Society, which is an
academic journal of category K or are Q
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one, that is, those that
have a greater percentage not only of observations,
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but also of scientific rigour. And
in that magazine there' s an
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article on this whole thing. This
magazine was created. I understand that in
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a thousand eight hundred and so much
around, pigeon, I do not remember
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the exact record, but I read
that it was from the end of one
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thousand eight hundred. There after,
maybe Fernando can give me that exact article
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ready. It turns out that it
is a journal specialized in what is astronomy
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specialized in studies, etc, etc, etc, linked to space exploration and
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the search for information of our scientific
knowledge. But through space and they,
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in a fairly neat study, as
you well say, you managed to understand
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that of the five million stars you
observed, you managed to understand that there
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are seven that have an excessive temperature
or infrared heat. So, those seven.
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The only way you can explain these
observations for now is that they are
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simply associated with what Dyson' s
spheres are, which are these superstructures that,
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in one other way, take a
sort of radiation in order to simply
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get energy. But for that structure
to be built or for them to excel
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those structures is because there' s
a fabrication behind some kind of super-
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super- advanced intelligence. And that' s where this dispute or this sort
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of controversy comes from, because,
although they raise it as in working hypothesis,
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the fact that it is already published
in a magazine of this category or
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of these characteristics simply makes it clear
that today, as Fernando did his introduction
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here in I take advantage of greeting
and provided that the last time this in
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his program is with fever, he
ends up, very sick, he is
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with a flu, those terrible.
He finally pointed it out, science is
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opening up now, it' s
not that it' s opening up,
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it' s that it' s
being public and we' re echoing this
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kind of information, because scientists are
the ones who are most open to these
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and those who deny these are the
pseudo- scientists, the negators who,
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in one other way, try from
a very positivist point of view, to
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deny this possibility, taking into account
that, in addition, these academics.
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This group that published in this magazine
points out or as an extra fact that
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here is a very interesting topic.
This is an infrared observation and our,
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our detection systems of this type of
temperature, of this kind of behavior,
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especially the stars that are scattered in
the universe. It was via the Galla
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satellite that one is located about five
million kilometers of the earth and that they
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clearly observe it in an infrared way. But yes, everything that has been
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achieved today with information through infrared filters
or captures, visible ultraviolet, etcetera,
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etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. What
is observable today is simply about a four
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comma five percent. From there there
are twenty- seven percent that I have
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called dark matter, which does not
shine. Therefore, it cannot be captured
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under any type of system. Today
known by earth or by us, by
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our technology, by our science,
but it can only be grasped by the
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movement that it has to say,
through its gravity, through the forces that
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are exercised. That' s that
kind of dark matter. And so all,
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so and all, Adding that twenty- seven percent dark matter, along
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with the four comma five of the
visible, is almost sixty- eight percent,
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which is absolutely and recognizable. Not
if you do that is defined as
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dark energy and that we have no
idea what it is whether or how it
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behaves, or what it does.
Therefore, this type of approximations, like
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the one that made the most days
soazo the other with Gabriela with delay,
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are the tip of the iceber of
what it means to transparentize what our universe
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is is that Rodrigo to see you
have explained it magisterially and I think the
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key is the following. First.
We really don' t know what'
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s more than ninety percent of the
universe around us. We don' t
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know what dark matter or dark energy
is. But, on top of that,
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the key to everything is what you' re saying that there was in
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a scientific journal of that category,
an article on the search for extraterrestrial civilizations.
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That three or four years ago,
I think I was and unthinkable,
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that is, just with a scientist
coming in and saying hey, we'
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re going to do some research to
look for traces. It is that clear
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the article very good what they are
doing, looking for traces of extraterrestrial technologies
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and, moreover, much more advanced
than ours in a scientific study that selects
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seven stars of between five million.
Then, in addition, there is also
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another study of an Italian university that
is selected fifty- three stars. But
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this, this, this is all
key, I mean, a few years
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ago, tell me rhodrig for our
friends who are listening to us. That
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' s what they' re going
to then play your podcast. Please go
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to the academic Google and put matÃas
faso two thousand twenty- four and that
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' s where this article directly leads
you to the magazine article and you can
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download it. It' s a
very, very complex technical language, but
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translating it you can have a moment, which is what they tried to explain
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in this pay But and what you' re saying sorry nothing, nothing at
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all. You can interrupt me when
you want a friend here. This is
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a chat between friends and I think
super important in this paradigm shift that there
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has been that we suddenly see a
scientific article looking for extraterrestrial civilizations. I
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think one of the keys is a
man called abilo ev that in the year
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two thousand seventeen, after he caught
an asteroid coming from outside the solar system,
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called omoa or mua. He'
s talking directly about how this could
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be an interstellar ship. I could
not. He claims it' s an
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interstellar ship. He' s facing
all the scientists, but of course Mr
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He' s the president of Harvard
astronomy, which is that he' s
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not just any prude of life and
he' s taking it and he'
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s going to make an expedition to
look for another object. Interstellar that has
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fallen out of the solar system to
the waters of Papua and finds small splinters
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that clearly came out of the solar
system. And Fernando Hildebran has interviewed Viloed
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and hears Fernando You who have been
investigating the OMNI phenomenon for so many years
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and you know it well, before
scientists hated us and gave us an interview
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less yet And suddenly and suddenly this
change and that you on your YouTube channel
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on the science and mystery signal,
have this kind of character talking about the
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man phenomenon. This is a radical
paradigm shift. Fernando. Absolutely, you
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absolutely know that I want to refer
to something that said ebernal at the beginning,
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when reference was made to this paper
that comes out of Harvard, from
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anthropological and psychology researchers who talk about
the possibility of the existence of crypto terrestrial
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life, of a civilization hidden between
us and you know that I just contacted
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Ãvilar to ask him for a hand
for these boys to be on the program.
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So most likely you can interview some
of the scientists that made this paper,
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which is super interesting and all thanks
to our friend Abilo, uh he
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' s practically a friend of the
house. I can' t believe it
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because you imagine what you were saying
just five years ago, you thought about
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science about these issues. I was
talking to a utopia. Yeah, yeah,
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well, they' re here and
collaborating. It' s not very
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crazy. I mean, let'
s see you interview Villo ef why you
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think this guy' s sorry.
From what I' m going to say,
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he threw enough balls at her to
confront the whole academic world, the
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whole scientific world, and say,
gentlemen, that I love a ship from
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another world and I take out a
book and I' m going to go
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look for objects of interest to the
Pacific and I' m going to say
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a word and I' m a
machine on the subject of astronomy and I
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' m going to tell you something
else I care about your shit, it
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' s okay that it' s
brutal. Why do you think it was
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abellodeve Fernando you know him Mira.
The truth is, knowing him a little
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bit, barely what I know him. I think because he' s a
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real scientist. I think that in
recent decades and this I have seen unfortunately
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represented in people who say to themselves
scientists and have lost curiosity. We have
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seen science arm itself with quintites and
arm itself with quintites, mainly motivated by
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the need for a budget. No, and it' s a reality.
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Scientists need budget to be able to
continue operating, to do their research,
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but it is also true that scientists
sign statements of non- declassification of content
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with private companies that contrast is that
there is an international scientific community, but
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that international scientific community suffers from many
practices that large corporations try to apply to
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it. And the reality is that
this has led to a stage of science
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that the scientists themselves, below you
tell Mira, is not exactly the best
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moment that science has gone through,
at least from the point of view of
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asking us new questions in the fields
that have already started a long time ago
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with people who asked uncomfortable questions at
uncomfortable times and started looking against tide in
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those fields. Fields are still being
investigated. It is always a challenge in
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the whole sense, in life and
in science, that has reached a point
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in the picture some scientists that have
almost become some religious scientists, it gets
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quite complicated, because there we get
more involved with dogmatic questions and that it
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would be very good to analyze it
from an anthropological point of view, because
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something that has to serve us as
a tool to understand reality, to understand
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that we have around, can be
turned, can be transformed into a prison
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of thought. It seems to me
that what ABILOEB has achieved in recent years
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is to break with that prison of
thought, along with another good number of
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American scientists, Latin American Europeans.
In Latin America there are great, great
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examples and leaving the house to ask
uncomfortable questions and begin to realize what I
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think, which are new fields of
science that are going to open up a
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stronger and more traceable path. What' s more, I tell you something
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that a biologist friend of mine always
tells me, that he' s a
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great scientist, a paleontologist here in
Argentina who really admires a lot and tells
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me to be scientific. You don' t have to do that to someone
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who went to a college and has
a degree. There is also civil science,
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urban science, field science. We
all do science by experiencing reality,
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looking for answers to the things we
don' t find and from there to
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the academic state. Sometimes time passes, but when the burden of proof is
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important enough. It ends with a
flowering, as is this in the case
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of the search for extraterrestrial and,
for example, the identified smelling objects.
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Let us be Habi has done so, in addition to a very important scientific
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movement, also a movement would tell
him, according to my personal understanding,
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a very important political movement, planting
an observatory looking for flying objects identified on
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the roof of the main building of
Harvard University. He didn' t go
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to put it in his house or
some friend' s house. He didn
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' t plant them on Harvard'
s roof. This is a statement of
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principle. It is a declaration of
principles that seeks to break with this cage
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of thought in order to dare to
ask new questions that will lead us.
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How we sometimes talk with valet to
new answers What we need then. I
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' m glad this happens. I
am happy that we are taking these steps
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and that we meet with these works, such as the paper on Dyson'
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s spheres, as the paper on
cryptoterrestrials. I think these are things that
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feed us a lot. But besides, they' re fine, they'
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re opening the door for us to
understand that reality is much more than we
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think and that we have to achieve
that to survive as a civilization. Finally,
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gentlemen, reality is much more complex
than we thought, because, as
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Rodrigo Bravo told us, more than
ninety percent of the universe around us do
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not know what. It' s
but there' s one thing that'
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s very clear. What you have
already said is not only the science involved
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in something that until now seemed impossible
to us, that was La la,
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the search for extraterrestrial life, with
a broad view, not with that cage
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of thought, as our friend Fernando
Hillebram was speaking to us, but that
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what is suddenly a group of scientists
abandons flagmen. That' s how much
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ev will have come up behind,
like the boys who have done the study
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of the dison spheres what they have
done suddenly, that is, science has
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to be protected by free thought.
There are a lot of facts and things
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that are there. We' re
going to investigate it and this is a
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whole political, philosophical, human media
issue. Behind a paradigm shift in the
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science of Ajandra Bana Juan hey It
is that, precisely about what Fernando was
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talking about, a few moments ago, a series of scientists from Harvard University,
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in the company of researchers from a
group of scientists known as The Human
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Florshin Program, put forward an alternative
hypothesis for non- human intelligences who were
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living with us on our planet and
who were responsible for the development of this
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technology that clearly exceeds us and Juan
Gesto was published in the New York Post
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a few days ago and, according
to these experts, these men of science,
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there would be four possibilities of this
new terrestrial crypto concept, these non
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- human intelligences that would be living
with us. The first of these would
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be human cryptoterrestrials that would be a
possible advanced ancient civilization that could have been
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destroyed, but which continued to exist
in the present form of humans. The
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second possibility would be cryptoterrestrials or minids
or theropods, which could be an alleged
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technologically advanced non- human civilization that
could have evolved to live in stealth.
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The other typology that these scientists established
is that of terrestrial cryptos, extraterrestrials that
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would be aliens that could have come
from space or from the future. This
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very interested hypothesis San Juange because it
already raises the possibility of the crononautas.
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Then these extraterrestrial beings, who would
have come from elsewhere in the universe or
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from the future, would have camouflaged
themselves to live hidden with us on earth
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and on our natural satellite, on
the moon. And the last definition these
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scientists establish is the cryptoterrestrials in magic. The authors of this paper, as
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Fernando pointed out, compared these entities
as angels or divine beings, beings who
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would be part of the mythologies of
religions, these beings who would have accompanied
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us since man was man, who
would be less technological beings, but who
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would have a high spiritual burden.
What you just told me looks like milk
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to me. Remember that when I
got here today at the studio in snail
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me you said hey, John got
a tan. I don' t know
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what and I told you to tell
him. I didn' t know it
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and I haven' t read it
and I' m saying it, but
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you' ve obviously documented telling it. I see Fernando Gillebrand knew him too.
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I don' t know if Rodrigo
bravo. Now I' m going
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to ask him. It' s
just that I' m sorry. I
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get excited because it looks like milk
to me. I mean, let'
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s see. They are talking about
an advanced civilization that is possible to disappear.
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Let' s say, let'
s say with the hand of God,
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the unearthly master, as we talked
about Atlantis, Lemuria, that humanity,
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before humanity that had a supertech and
could disappear. But they are talking
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to us about ansi in alien,
about how space travelers who can come from
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the future arrived, who were also
on the moon. Here we have spoken
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of the ruin of the Moon.
And when I got the statements from Aran
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Davis, NASA' s telecommunications engineer, telling me that I had seen images
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of ruins on the moon of the
famous elementals, angels, goblins, demons
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are also magical beings that seem to
travel, that they are interdimensional and that
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in different places that are like doors
in this world, there appears to be
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suddenly an article in Harvar University'
s Jarp a study on this. This
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is not a paradigm shift that I
want to meet these people to invite them
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for drinks and to eat a good
roast. I mean, I think it
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' s incredible rhodrig, bravo.
What do you think? I mean,
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this is a male bomb. Yeah, well, I, in that sense,
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I' m pretty. I don' t know it' s optimistic,
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but I think and here in this
program we talked about it here there
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was a uncovering and that stake split
the two thousand twenty- two thousand twenty
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- one. So, obviously,
this allows for freedom of movement. Here
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is a Chilean author named Antonio Escarmeta, who has a very entertaining novel that
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is called that and that gives rise
to the fact that today all this that
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used to be the almost table conversation. Or even if, as Ferdinand rightly
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said, those who spoke this otherwise
were crucified. Yes, of course,
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Jack himself was worth the same mico
Caku how many times, or more,
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the same Abby Love, who published
his book the two thousand twenty, at
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a time before this open report,
the pentagon of two thousand twenty- one.
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Two thousand and twenty was caught by
his colleagues. I mean, to
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this day. There are some assets
that you are transmitting in another frequency when
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the reality we realize is going all
that way. But this I don'
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t, I don' t see
it casually I in that sense, maybe
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I have my apprehensions and I'
m a little more cautious because of course,
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all these possibilities are right here.
So do we. As for historical
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knowledge, we are limited by the
time we have recorded. Written. There
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are certain precedents that we don'
t handle earth movements of water and back
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there, anything is possible. But
I go a little further and go more
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than what might have happened in time. Already from behind, I' m
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keeping an eye on what' s
happening and what' s going to happen
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in a very short time. For
the future I explain to myself I am
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super concerned and I make an analogy
with science fiction, that science fiction,
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in a way, has given us
certain lights about how science, technology,
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innovation, etcetera, and so on. I worry, for example, what
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is being planned with the moon,
a plan of exploitation of the moon,
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that is, you see it is
science fiction when we read the time machine
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and see that in one of the
trips in an adaptation that there was a
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movie. I believe that the two
thousand two, on one of his travels,
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the person or this protagonist Alexander,
I do not know how much he
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went into the future and saw that
civilization had evolved and that, in fact,
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he observes the moon that is split
as in various parts. Of course
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that brought terrible consequences for the tides, et cetera, et cetera. Well,
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today what is being planned to try
to pull out the three helium and
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do mining surveys in the first place, and secondly, it has a platform
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or a sort of natural space station
for future missions, whether it' s
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Mars to the other side. So, to me all this that we are
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today fascinated by because they are giving
us little crumbs of information that have already
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been discussed and discussed many years ago
by some thinking entities of our environment,
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everything is driven. I believe that
because, just as we discussed it here
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from this classification that departed the two
thousand twenty- one, it has a
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term date that in two thousand twenty- six, But what are we going
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to tell the two thousand twenty-
six that there are vestiges of a possible
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past activity or life on Mars Chuta. For many of us it is going
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to make a novelty that is actually
going to explode and there is going to
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be a mining exploitation on the moon, because today, whatever it is,
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we are looking for a decarbonization of
the earth, the energy matrices are changing,
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but in the long run it also
goes hand in hand with the developments
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themselves, because in a world where
we are going to do in a certain
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way, I do not mean governed, but there is going to be a
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coercion with artificial intelligence, with robotics, there is going to be a very
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important amount of human beings that are
going to be between useless quotations, without
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trades, without employment and energetically we
have to keep it. So I point
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out that this is going, on
the one hand, with a development,
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with a search, but, on
the other hand, also with giving us
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more or less the guidelines of where, where our culture goes, our civilization,
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our innovation and, of course,
those who are above ruling. Because
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this problem is that today we see
it as almost far away or as utopian
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as if it were analogically science fiction
being around the corner. Then there the
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information that the day is giving us, as well as gradually is fascinating.
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For those of us who have been
involved in this for several years, it
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' s good that it' s
transparent. But, on the other hand,
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I also think it goes hand in
hand with a back load, down,
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an added value that so, if
we don' t look at it
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between lines, they' re going
to make us a golea again. As
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always, what you say. I
think it' s clear. We have
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to look at everything as a whole. I mean, I think thanks to
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characters like Abillo ev also for all
the somni leaks that there were since December
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of the year two thousand seventeen by
people of the Pentagon. By the way,
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there is now a very good Pentagon
report that Alejandro Bernal is going to
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tell us, too, of a
sighting that has taken place in Ontario in
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which this year two thousand and thirteen, but the story is very good and
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has been made public. Now you
have to see everything as a whole and
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in that set it is a change, I think it is okay then I
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also want Fernando' s opinion,
not in time, because in a good
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minute the computer, but then I
ask Fernando' s opinion. It is
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a total and absolute paradigm shift,
that is, to see a study of
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people who are at Harvard publicly on
a scientific level, speaking of a humanity
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before humanity of extraterrestrial visits, in
the ancient Antia in Alien, the series
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in which I have participated several times, by the way, of History Channel,
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to tell us about all this,
which I do not know, that
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they are looking for spheres of Dyson, looking for remains of alien civilizations that
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are palpable. All this is a
paradigm shift at the same time as what
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Rodrigo, Rodrigo Bravo, has proposed
to us we have to leave the earth.
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So or yes and Stephen Hawking already
said, either we get out of
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the land or we go to hell
because we' re brutes, because we
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' re ruled by politicians and politicians
are the most corrupt and ungrateful people in
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the world. Climate change such I
don' t know what. Then clear
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fundamental the first look at the moon
for geomining exploitation. You think of some
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of those who are listening to this
and without putting the comments on YouTube,
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which you hear later on the podcast
on YouTube. You think some of us
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human beings are going to share the
moon. The Chinese and the gringos are
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no longer there sticking with cakes,
because the problem is that you don'
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t need to put the lunar base
anywhere. It has to be at the
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South Pole that there' s a
lot of water, but with that water
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you have hydrogen, you have fuel. People can drink clear, it'
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s super key, it' s
just in the south, so it'
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s funny, because gringos, who
are very pragmatic, they' re clear,
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they' ve already made their army
of stars, they' ve already
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made their aerospace force to stick with
the Chinese as they come up to me,
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that is, we human beings are, we' re the milk and
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here we' re still on mystery
night and we' re talking about this
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paradigm shift so tremendous that they'
re seeing in science, where suddenly it
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seems that they' re no longer
afraid to look for traces, of extraterrestrial
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civilizations through Dyson' s spheres,
of those superstructures that have to have advancements
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surrounding a star to use their energy, which they' re able to do
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even for example, with studies like
this group of people from Harvard University talking
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about visitors to the stars thousands of
years ago and how they could influence our
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civilizations, even the emergence of interdimensional
beings that were taken as angels and as
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demons. And I would like,
Fernando Hilderran, what do you think of
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this wonderful Harvard study and what do
you also think, for example, Fernando,
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of this paradigm shift that well,
I think scientists also come out of
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the closet, because we need to
look at the stars. We have no
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choice but to end up coming out
of planet Earth exactly my dear John,
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which we are totally agreed upon.
Allow me to approach you a greeting to
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our common friend, Fernando or Esquera
who is listening to the program. How
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good to greet the family to give
a strong hug, to Fernando, to
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Sara, to his father- in- law, to Ernesto and to see
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if he comes to Egypt, that
they disgust me to know if he comes
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in Egypt this year, to see
to see very well, very well,
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very well. I love it,
I love it and I pass. I
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greet the family, Lords, who
are very attached to the community, who
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follow my channel listening to your show
tonight and always listen to it so they
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00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:35.079
are all fascinated. So what our
dear friend said a few minutes ago is
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very interesting, because this idea of
the spatial exploitation of what is coming.
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I understand that Rodrigo is out there
a little worried about all this, but
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it also seems to me that there
is a rhetoric in this whole story that
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we should review. Not because I
think I understand that what Rodrigo wanted to
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communicate to us, which is because
I will know in person the weekend of
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the serene, what he tried to
communicate to us is that, somehow there
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is like a media move to distract
the attention of some things that are perhaps
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more important through others that may not
be so much or that we already know
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or have studied it. I understand
that point of view because, somehow,
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those of us who are fond of
these subjects so many years ago, who
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study them, who follow them,
who do journalism, who or who do
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research, there are things that we
have been talking about decades ago, but
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the general public has not even the
faintest idea that there is a word that
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is called, that is Confusing as
a terrestrial crypt, that is to say
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hidden terrestrial or in the shadows.
And if tomorrow the news is given that
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non- human intelligences exist and this
is confirmed by universities and governments and is
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also launched as a world news and
in the middle it is added that they
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not only exist, but also come
here with us on our planet. It
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occurs to me that crumbling, in
trade exchanges, in religions, in all
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social strata is going to be quite
important. So this is something that we
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don' t have to lose sight
of, because in reality, it gives
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me the feeling that the paradigm shift
is taking place through a visual change of
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reality, because, after all,
if the United States, or China or
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Russia want to exploit the moon and
extract the biots that we know or don
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' t, it changes absolutely nothing, that we agree, no, it
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doesn' t change absolutely anything.
One of the Presidents most dear to the
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American people was the Shane end Gerald
and what happened to those who killed him
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the truth, for everything in the
government they wanted. So much because,
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according to the most interesting investigations,
there was a plot that included the Central
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Intelligence Agency, where it is more
to say that all that information has not
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yet been released, when it should
have been released a few years ago.
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Then friend the feeling that we are
actually looking at our navel a little bit
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and here are important things happening,
because it is that talking about the topic
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of terrestrial cryptos, which is tremendously
interesting, and I share the enthusiasm that
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someone has with this topic. You
know that a while ago I was interviewing
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you with another scientist who is very
open on this subject, who is Kevin
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Canut esx astrophysicist of NASA today.
Castro' s boss was from astrophysics at
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Albany University, which he told me
because I say there which is the best
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hypothesis. Only aliens. I call
me Mira. I developed a study as
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a simulation to try to see how
many advanced civilizations there could be in our
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galaxy and from there, how many
could have survived themselves so that we could
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begin to colonize the galaxy and those
civilizations, how many could have found us
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and how long ago? It turns
out that the result that inherited us is
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who would have found us approximately according
to these simulations that he also presented at
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the Institute max Planck of Physics in
Germany as a presentation and as a scientific
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project that in addition, applauded him
very much and everyone took note. He
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gave him that they would have found
us about three hundred thousand years ago.
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So look out for this, because, for example, Kevin Cano' s
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crypto- terrestrial hypothesis is that these
extraterrestrials found planet Earth three hundred thousand years
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ago and settled in the seas and
oceans. That' s why we don
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' t see it all the time, because we know more about the surface
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of Mars than about our own oceans. It' s more deserved look so
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selegated. He said in the seventies
that he well thought that he had lived
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intelligently from the Universe, but that
there was something that did not close him
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to the phenomenon, nor was it
the periodicity of the insistence of the appearances
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of the phenomenon. Then it says
clearly it was there at the tip.
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Only one more logical step was missing. The next logical step is that they
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do not come from the stars to
our planet all the time to visit us,
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as if they did the author tour
of our friend Jorge Vallesco to Egypt,
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but they already live on our planet
or live next to the Great Pipe
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No, then they are already installed
here. That' s the idea of
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the paper that I also very interesting
hal puref for those who do not know
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hal purev It was the founder of
the project Stargates, together with Rutzer tark
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In the seventies, in this project
of Remote division, where they were psychics
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to deal exactly with the CIA,
trying to spy on the avietics through Remote
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vision, seeing the United States that
they were doing. And this man has
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another paper of is a few years
of the year two thousand twenty, which
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is called Ultraterrestrial Models, which is
also based on a book I highly recommend
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is from a very little known gentleman
is called mc Famis. Well, he
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actually died, took his own life, and his girlfriend ends up publishing this
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book called the Outer Ones, where
he proposes hypothesis basically of everything we now
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know, how the terrestrial cryptos.
In fact, that book is mentioned in
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this paper that Berna was just showing
us, and it is very interesting to
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note the subject of Dawson' s
spheres in all of this. I think
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Rodrigo brought a key theme there,
because it' s not the only work
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that talks about Dyson' s spheres
that appointed him. For example, there
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are other works that are very interesting
about stars that appear and disappear in the
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universe, a work directed by the
University of Stockholm in Sweden and where they
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detected the disappearance of one hundred and
fifty thousand celestial objects. And the best
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of all is that the only explanation
and it has nothing to do with civilizations
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that the Earth would have formed in
these stars some kind of anomalous black hole
637
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that swallowed them. It' s
the only way to explain it if you
638
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don' t have to jump into
extraterrestrial civilizations by building Dyson feras, which
639
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:05.239
then makes them less visible in the
field, in the astronomical field. Now
640
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here I go with this to that
if there are several civilizations out there spinning
641
00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:15.320
around, as Alvin Carro says,
it is very likely that they have found
642
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us many years ago, that they
have settled here. And I' ll
643
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throw them one more you know.
What it says I saw Canut say most
644
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likely is that they' ve been
here so long, that they think they
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own the planet and that when we
started with nuclear anger they were worried about
646
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what we can do with their property. That is why they began to show
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themselves more assiduously and especially in front
of the military forces of the great powers.
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And one thing you said that I
think it' s mega brutal,
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that I freaked him out and I
didn' t know this. I need
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to see more. The sign that
in mystery is clear is that this Mr
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Kevin canut this scientist, what he
is defending from that that came here three
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hundred thousand years ago beings from another
world and settled under water. He'
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s safe, not people, he' s strong. Uncle I know or
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don' t know that fact on
account, I didn' t know any
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other source. Forgive me. It' s not that I hear it very
656
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well and I' m going over
there. Excuse me. You know I
657
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left another source, because I say
I have to talk to someone who'
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s working in the seas as long
as he can tell me there' s
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going to be what data we can
find here. So it wasn' t
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Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet I' ve
been talking to for several months. Tin
661
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Gallaudet is a retired U S Navy
oceanographer. He continues to work on a
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project to which he can talk to
the U S Navy and is one of
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the most vocal people about the strange
things found in the seas. And he
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asks it straight. I' m
telling you, look at Glaudio in a
665
00:58:04.320 --> 00:58:07.280
private chat pre- moutorized to comment. You think they may be installed in
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the seas. To be, for
example, a strategist who arrived a long
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time ago and settled in the seas. And he says yes to me.
668
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It seems to me that this is
the most correct hypothesis of all possible.
669
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That' s the hypothesis I'
m following, that is to say,
670
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it' s something that' s
not only part of a scientist at a
671
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university analyzing the data they' re
finding, but the United States Navy itself,
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because it also told me that they' ve already made observation projects about
673
00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:43.239
it and they' re still doing
it. She is concerned about this because
674
00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:46.559
they encounter objects that move under water
at speeds that are impossible and not from
675
00:58:46.679 --> 00:58:52.559
now on from making escaras. So
there we have the transmedia effect, objects
676
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that can move under the water,
in the air, in space or go
677
00:58:55.320 --> 00:59:00.599
into space and come back under the
water as if nothing technology that we don
678
00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:04.239
' t have, but well it
could be talking now. You' re
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00:59:04.280 --> 00:59:07.400
doing what you do. Jorge reminds
me to throw you a data that filtered
680
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me from a very important observatory before
the program, because it seems that it
681
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can also be a headline when seen. I don' t remember you now.
682
00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:20.960
That whole question isn' t what
we' re going to see.
683
00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:23.840
I thought it was so important for
me to hear from this Kevin canut Vale
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00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:30.280
man. For the following, to
see after the leak of the Pentagon'
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s reports from December of the year
two thousand seventeen, what is clear is
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that the relationship between the OMNI phenomenon
and the seas and the oceans was much
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00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:44.440
greater than we imagined, because what
the American pilots tell us is that those
688
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lights came out from under the water
and it is even more apparent that they
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have a base near the island of
Guadalupe, as it became clear after the
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00:59:54.199 --> 00:59:59.199
incidents of the us that year two
thousand four. If it' s wrong
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00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:02.079
I don' t believe an Alejandro
Bernal who Kevin Canut is for people to
692
01:00:02.079 --> 01:00:07.920
dimension. Juan, professor of physics
at the University of Albany, one of
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01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:13.960
the greatest scientists who, from the
rigor of science, is worth the expression,
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01:00:14.079 --> 01:00:19.840
has been involved in OMNI research.
He is currently part of the Galileo
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01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:24.800
project, which is being flagged by
the University of Harbard with exactly avilo juang
696
01:00:24.800 --> 01:00:28.559
Well, master, this gentleman did
not know him. I seem to remember
697
01:00:28.599 --> 01:00:31.400
that I do. Rodrigo Bravo.
What do you think of this Kevin Canut
698
01:00:31.400 --> 01:00:35.800
investigation? I' ve been freaked
out by the data that Fernando Gillebran released
699
01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:42.039
to us. Yeah, it'
s an important fact, but I mean,
700
01:00:42.079 --> 01:00:44.440
it' s not that I think
it' s logical. What happens
701
01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:50.840
is that we understand that three-
quarters of the sea planet is clear.
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01:00:51.679 --> 01:01:00.920
So, obviously, at the start
of an ophthalmic classification, it is absolutely
703
01:01:01.039 --> 01:01:07.280
plausible that these data, especially from
the seas, are becoming much more transparent
704
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:13.239
today. That is to say,
there is a report that we analyzed in
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01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:16.440
the book Ni from Chile, which
is by Pedro Sarmiento and Gamboa in 1,
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01:01:16.480 --> 01:01:22.360
500 eighty, which is written in
his memoirs by a Spanish navigator who
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01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:24.599
made the crossing by the Magellan stricho, instead of coming from the Atlantic to
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01:01:24.719 --> 01:01:27.679
the Pacific, did it the other
way around. Since then with being Atlantic
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01:01:27.719 --> 01:01:32.559
and in one of his navigations,
he sees a red object come out from
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01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:38.320
the water that after coming out of
the water, flies over the water to
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01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:42.119
the island that, in this case, on the island Tierra del Fuego,
712
01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:49.119
climbs a small hill, transforms its
texture from something, circulates to something elongated,
713
01:01:49.800 --> 01:01:53.039
changes color and disappears well, what
is that? To this day we
714
01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:57.440
are still trying to understand what that
is, because, as you point to
715
01:01:57.519 --> 01:02:02.800
records of American aviation, what I
know about navigators from all over the planet.
716
01:02:05.559 --> 01:02:09.800
In short, but you can do
the same thing or to that paradigm
717
01:02:09.880 --> 01:02:16.960
shift, to the paradigm shift that
has already been proposed since the fidelgada of
718
01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:25.079
the sixties, with what the revolution
of science means and that it was already
719
01:02:25.079 --> 01:02:36.360
following the same connectivity, by the
same hyperconnection, globalization as a technological phenomenon
720
01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:39.159
is being much more appreciated and understood
by all people. Therefore, it is
721
01:02:39.559 --> 01:02:45.480
already more difficult to keep saved than
perhaps before kept the day. She is
722
01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:51.639
much more transparent Now, from information
you have to do, of course,
723
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:55.960
a gearchization, a hierarchy, that
is, with that conceptual historical principle of
724
01:02:57.679 --> 01:03:00.400
seeing the cases that are relevant,
those that have the most contunence in terms
725
01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:05.360
of testimonies, in terms of witnesses, the qualification of the blind, etcetera,
726
01:03:05.760 --> 01:03:10.280
etcetera. To also understand how much
of that, On the one hand,
727
01:03:10.639 --> 01:03:15.639
you can make this famous comparative theory
and you can realize that we are
728
01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:21.960
under the same type of manifestation or
phenomenon or in its effect, you cannot
729
01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:25.079
generalize, but at the same time, these are things that have different origins.
730
01:03:25.119 --> 01:03:28.280
I don' t know if you
understand me. I understand myself,
731
01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:35.440
because we try as much as possible
to give a probable explanation to these manifestations.
732
01:03:36.239 --> 01:03:39.639
But when we do that casuistic analysis
like I pointed out of 1,
733
01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:45.599
500 eighty, there are those from
American aviation and so we can see a
734
01:03:45.599 --> 01:03:50.119
lot of cases. In making this
comparison, we realize the characteristics, that
735
01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:57.159
there is a certain diversity that would
allow us at the same time also to
736
01:03:57.280 --> 01:04:02.280
hypotheize that it cannot necessarily be this
same origin, that is, certain intelligences
737
01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:05.760
are inserted here in the water.
Perfect. It is one of the possibilities,
738
01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:11.000
but there are also others that go
hand in hand with another type of
739
01:04:11.199 --> 01:04:15.880
the same thing that we are talking
about the amount of amount of energy or
740
01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:19.000
quantity of elements that we don'
t even understand that are handled in the
741
01:04:19.679 --> 01:04:24.719
universe and, on the other hand, our ability to understand, understand,
742
01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:30.000
observe and record them. So I
agree with that possibility, I agree with
743
01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:33.960
that hypothesis, but I think that
this is much broader still, that is,
744
01:04:34.199 --> 01:04:39.679
it is an advance, of course, but I would not also focus
745
01:04:39.800 --> 01:04:43.760
100% on that, but that
there I believe that the word transmedia,
746
01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:51.480
at least serves to be able to
encompass or encapsulate these manifestations. But I
747
01:04:51.519 --> 01:04:58.639
insist it gives its texture, given
the records that there are with higher quality
748
01:04:58.639 --> 01:05:02.760
and conditions. This is more complex
for me, because the characteristics of the
749
01:05:02.840 --> 01:05:08.440
phenomenon make it very diverse and that, therefore, can have an absolutely different
750
01:05:08.599 --> 01:05:13.119
origin from each other. Indeed,
that which Rodrigo Bravos has said the key
751
01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:17.679
and is the great problem of the
phenomenon. As you want to explain everything
752
01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:23.119
with a single theory, one and
only hypothesis. One way there' s
753
01:05:23.119 --> 01:05:27.920
no way. That' s why
I thought it was so brilliant about these
754
01:05:28.440 --> 01:05:33.079
Harvard people' s earthly cry,
because it tells us about four possibilities and
755
01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:36.400
that, besides, it' s
not so close. There may have been
756
01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:42.239
several going through the story and the
Keding Canut. I keep doing the wave
757
01:05:42.320 --> 01:05:45.559
with this guy from now on to
my idol, because to say that they
758
01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:48.559
can be under water apart from them, what Rodrigo Bravo says, that maybe
759
01:05:48.599 --> 01:05:51.400
everything can' t be explained like
this, but that a good part does
760
01:05:51.519 --> 01:05:55.719
look like shit to people, I
didn' t want to comment, yes,
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01:05:55.880 --> 01:05:59.800
Juan, that precisely about what we
were talking about that Vincanut I think
762
01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:03.719
is not only one of the most
privileged scientific minds regarding this type of research,
763
01:06:03.800 --> 01:06:08.400
but, as Fernando Juange said,
this man used a computer simulation to
764
01:06:08.400 --> 01:06:13.039
be able, from the point of
view of a computer tool, to develop
765
01:06:13.159 --> 01:06:20.840
this theory. It' s not
just elucubration. There is a scientific sustenance
766
01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:30.639
around this does not seem tremendous to
me and here we continue in mystery night
767
01:06:30.320 --> 01:06:41.440
today talking about how a small group
of brave scientists are breaking a spear and
768
01:06:41.519 --> 01:06:46.519
clearly backed by science within more prestigious
universities like Harvard, are looking for signs
769
01:06:46.880 --> 01:06:55.280
of intelligent life and not only in
the stars, but this lord as though
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01:06:55.400 --> 01:07:00.559
they give canut even here on earth, under water, beings from another world
771
01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:05.599
living among us for no more or
less than three hundred thousand years. But
772
01:07:05.719 --> 01:07:09.480
another of the things we had to
get into that program, because it'
773
01:07:09.679 --> 01:07:18.440
s hot news, is that a
Pentagon Defense Department contractor gets obsessed, after
774
01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:23.119
having a om NI sighting of the
year two thousand thirteen, has been investigating
775
01:07:23.199 --> 01:07:30.960
it year with the support of the
Pentagon, all this official information and it
776
01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:38.519
turns out that, moreover, it
would have captured to some extent what the
777
01:07:38.639 --> 01:07:41.079
propulsion system of these ships of another
world is like. Alejandro Bernal, who
778
01:07:41.239 --> 01:07:45.719
spent the 28th of August of the
year two thousand thirteen in Ontario, for
779
01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:50.039
John according to the information published a
few days ago by the British daily Daily
780
01:07:50.079 --> 01:07:55.119
Mail, a research on purpose led
by the ufologist Robert Powell, one of
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01:07:55.199 --> 01:08:00.000
the most important in the world.
That twenty- eight August of two thousand
782
01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:03.280
need, at nine and forty at
night, outside Ontario, there was a
783
01:08:03.320 --> 01:08:10.519
group of three men who were hunting. It' s a common practice in
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01:08:10.519 --> 01:08:15.279
North America. When one of these
three men, who belonged to the Pentagon
785
01:08:15.560 --> 01:08:24.119
as a contractor, suddenly juangates,
he watches over him an impressive elongated artifact.
786
01:08:24.680 --> 01:08:28.760
According to this man' s testimony, he' d be half the
787
01:08:29.079 --> 01:08:33.239
size of a football field. According
to his predictions, he would be the
788
01:08:33.359 --> 01:08:41.800
next one hundred and seventy feet long
sixty feet wide and twenty feet high and
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01:08:42.279 --> 01:08:46.239
flew slowly over these three hunters.
It had like a kind of a good
790
01:08:46.439 --> 01:08:50.840
way, to put it in some
gross way, a bar and like two
791
01:08:50.880 --> 01:08:55.600
dishes, one exactly golden here,
a bar, a dish, one side,
792
01:08:55.760 --> 01:09:00.560
a dish and out exactly juange and
another particular detail about this artifact,
793
01:09:00.880 --> 01:09:05.199
not just about the size. It
had a strange glow like indigo blue plasma
794
01:09:05.439 --> 01:09:13.039
very very intense, which surrounded it
according to this witness. Not only was
795
01:09:13.239 --> 01:09:17.359
this brightness strange, this plasma enveloping
it, but according to him and the
796
01:09:17.479 --> 01:09:24.920
other witnesses. It issued a series, a series of lights that were quite
797
01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:29.159
coherent. A very soft, very
diffuse light, similar to a more similar
798
01:09:29.199 --> 01:09:32.359
light, to a laser that this
man used to say to a conventional light
799
01:09:32.359 --> 01:09:36.640
bulb. Turns out this Pentagon contractor
wasn' t meeting two other men who
800
01:09:36.680 --> 01:09:41.520
were in this hunting experience. They
went back to the jef they rented.
801
01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:45.840
He had a hunting rifle with a
target and one of them was carrying a
802
01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:51.640
sony Hd camera. They were watching
this object for seven minutes. The Pentagon
803
01:09:51.760 --> 01:09:57.359
contractor looked at this object with the
eye of his rifle. In fact,
804
01:09:57.600 --> 01:09:59.960
one of the people who was with
him told him at the time that he
805
01:10:00.159 --> 01:10:01.720
would shoot. Clearly, this man
did not say it, did not do
806
01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:05.760
it, simply wanted to see it
in more detail and said something very interesting
807
01:10:06.279 --> 01:10:13.479
John, that he had neither propulsion
mechanisms nor wings, and this was upon
808
01:10:13.479 --> 01:10:17.359
them. Turns out one of these
men grabbed his sony Hd camera and decided
809
01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:25.079
to film or attempt to film this
device and it turns out that Juang basically
810
01:10:25.079 --> 01:10:28.720
didn' t work. It went
out immediately as if a kind of electrostatic
811
01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:34.319
had emerged that prevented this device from
working properly. According to the testimony of
812
01:10:34.359 --> 01:10:41.760
this Pentagon contractor, this huge artifact
began to slowly move away and on the
813
01:10:41.840 --> 01:10:47.399
horizon an artifact of the same size
joined him and suddenly, at an unusual
814
01:10:47.600 --> 01:10:55.520
speed, disappeared in the firmament says
this man that, unfortunately, this video
815
01:10:55.960 --> 01:11:01.880
test did not have the largest house. However, the video was analyzed by
816
01:11:02.119 --> 01:11:06.760
Newhone experts, probably the most important
OMNI research group in the world and the
817
01:11:06.840 --> 01:11:13.720
most trained. Juange and the experts
of the Newfunta, after examining this video
818
01:11:13.800 --> 01:11:17.399
recorded by these men determined that if
you can see it, it is a
819
01:11:17.439 --> 01:11:20.159
video where static white noise is seen. I mean, I don' t
820
01:11:20.319 --> 01:11:26.119
know how to see any more,
but, according to Newphone experts, clearly
821
01:11:26.239 --> 01:11:32.159
a few small pulses that can be
seen in this recording would have a perfect
822
01:11:32.159 --> 01:11:38.000
pulsation function. They have a consistent
pulse, a pulse that' s not
823
01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:42.720
random. Juan who passed it,
passed the images through an exact spectrometer the
824
01:11:42.760 --> 01:11:45.439
spectrometer. What it basically does is
to compose the image into a series of
825
01:11:45.439 --> 01:11:53.399
numerical parameters. So what happens with
this that that filming, although you see
826
01:11:53.479 --> 01:11:56.399
it and say good, because it
is white noise and such if you pass
827
01:11:56.520 --> 01:12:01.560
it through a spectrograph pectometer, sorry, so to see a whole series of
828
01:12:01.640 --> 01:12:09.119
numbers and graphics and so that they
are complete and absolutely abnormal, because what
829
01:12:09.199 --> 01:12:14.680
they are reflecting is that what was
recording was and what was nearby was an
830
01:12:14.760 --> 01:12:23.880
electromagnetic field to brutal absurdity and that
that indigo blue light, that plasma that
831
01:12:24.079 --> 01:12:30.079
would cover the ship was by the
electromagnetic energy so tremendous that it had this
832
01:12:30.279 --> 01:12:35.399
exactly juange cachar. According to this
Pentagon contractor and these New Foune experts who
833
01:12:35.439 --> 01:12:41.920
examined this material and who took care
of this case, this device would require
834
01:12:42.439 --> 01:12:50.199
an energy of one hundred and sixty
million batons that it would be able to
835
01:12:50.279 --> 01:12:56.319
function in this way, according to
the initial calculations, this contractor told the
836
01:12:56.680 --> 01:13:00.640
Department of Defense, Juan Genne,
this Daily Mail article, that clearly because
837
01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:05.000
it belongs to the work it has, because it has seen many artifacts,
838
01:13:05.159 --> 01:13:10.560
many patents, and this was something
that it had never seen in its life
839
01:13:10.640 --> 01:13:14.039
and much less in the year two
thousand thirteen, something absolutely anomalous. He
840
01:13:14.119 --> 01:13:18.399
provided this information to Mr Robert Powell, this great researcher Juange and, as
841
01:13:18.479 --> 01:13:23.680
a specific fact for us to realize
the magnitude and amount of energy this artifact
842
01:13:23.760 --> 01:13:29.840
would need. For example, there
is a nuclear power plant in Fort Colon,
843
01:13:30.359 --> 01:13:33.640
Nebraska, which produces four hundred and
seventy- eight million batiums, that
844
01:13:33.760 --> 01:13:41.359
is, this ship that this Pentagon
contractor observed would need thirty- three percent
845
01:13:41.520 --> 01:13:46.279
of the power of this central nuclear
plant to be able to move Juange and
846
01:13:46.439 --> 01:13:49.640
above all, according to NEOPHONE experts, this video would be the first physical
847
01:13:50.159 --> 01:13:57.840
and tangible proof of how the OMNI
phenomenon can generate electroxta charges that affect apparatuses
848
01:13:58.319 --> 01:14:06.399
and that affect our reality is that
this is key. First, first,
849
01:14:06.680 --> 01:14:14.399
to know how these pots work.
Electromagnetic energy. It' s worth an
850
01:14:14.520 --> 01:14:21.239
electromagnetic energy that somehow has to be
so well connected to Earth' s gravity.
851
01:14:23.079 --> 01:14:25.840
I don' t know how or
how, but that has to be
852
01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:30.119
connected there. And then, because
when an OMNI shows up, you turn
853
01:14:30.159 --> 01:14:32.600
off your car, turn off the
radio, turn off the camera, turn
854
01:14:32.600 --> 01:14:36.520
off. So, the amount of
electromagnetic energy that, around that electrostatic,
855
01:14:38.319 --> 01:14:43.319
I don' t know and there' s no way that absolutely anything works.
856
01:14:43.399 --> 01:14:46.279
So that' s good, this
gentleman took the scare of his life,
857
01:14:46.960 --> 01:14:54.279
but thank you, thanks to that
scare. We know a little bit
858
01:14:54.479 --> 01:14:59.319
more and this seems magnificent to me. Dear friend Fernando gille branc what do
859
01:14:59.439 --> 01:15:03.880
you think of this new case protected
again by the pentagon. I don'
860
01:15:03.920 --> 01:15:09.000
t know if Luis Elizondo is leaking
that kind of thing or where they come
861
01:15:09.000 --> 01:15:13.079
from again, but I think this
investigation is magnificent and it' s been
862
01:15:13.079 --> 01:15:17.039
made public. I find it magnificent, especially because of the idea that goes
863
01:15:17.880 --> 01:15:23.359
to us and already analyzing what we
can find tomorrow with a total declassification,
864
01:15:23.720 --> 01:15:26.640
which is something that I talked to
Speef in bases a couple of months ago
865
01:15:26.720 --> 01:15:32.199
in an interview believe, and it
is this idea of the energy sources that
866
01:15:32.439 --> 01:15:38.960
could be related to the phenomenon.
And this has to do a little bit
867
01:15:39.079 --> 01:15:45.680
also with the idea of cryptoterrestrials,
because everything can be connected to the idea
868
01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:57.199
that these intelligences or are ways of
generating energy that absolutely change our understanding of
869
01:15:57.920 --> 01:16:05.960
what it is basically to establish an
energy self- sufficiency system. I believe
870
01:16:06.039 --> 01:16:12.439
that there is one of the keys, as you were saying, to what
871
01:16:12.439 --> 01:16:15.640
can happen and a little bit of
the paradigm changes to what Rodrigo was pointing
872
01:16:15.720 --> 01:16:24.119
at. It gives me the impression
that, by deepening this, by having
873
01:16:24.279 --> 01:16:30.000
more and more data, this object
is launching thirty- three percent of the
874
01:16:30.079 --> 01:16:36.239
energy production of a nuclear- centered
one into a pulse. He talks to
875
01:16:36.319 --> 01:16:42.600
us about two things. First,
that none of the enormous energy production,
876
01:16:43.119 --> 01:16:46.680
but I think I say it also
escapes us because talking to engineers about these
877
01:16:46.760 --> 01:16:51.520
issues, the first thing that jumps
to the table is the issue of energy
878
01:16:51.680 --> 01:16:58.640
efficiency, and energy efficiency is perhaps
one of the biggest problems we have.
879
01:17:00.119 --> 01:17:05.159
Every time we touch a wire in
our homes or a machine that is electric,
880
01:17:05.960 --> 01:17:11.560
that raises temperature, that we feel
that it is warm, for example,
881
01:17:11.800 --> 01:17:15.399
if we are going to grind coffee
the grinder, if it is electric,
882
01:17:15.640 --> 01:17:21.600
we touch it, if it is
a little heated, that warms that
883
01:17:23.119 --> 01:17:28.479
wasted energy, that transforms and is
released in the mode of heat. One
884
01:17:28.479 --> 01:17:32.479
of the great problems we have as
a civilization and at the engineering level is
885
01:17:32.600 --> 01:17:39.720
energy efficiency. It is to make
the best possible use of energy. And
886
01:17:40.039 --> 01:17:45.279
if we could take advantage of 100% of the energy we produce and our
887
01:17:45.319 --> 01:17:50.319
devices, our technology would be much
more efficient so that we wouldn' t
888
01:17:50.319 --> 01:17:54.159
be wasting it. We' d
even have less trouble than we have.
889
01:17:54.239 --> 01:17:59.960
But imagine if we can suddenly have
access to any of the energy production systems
890
01:18:00.079 --> 01:18:03.199
of these devices that, apparently in
efficiency, are doing very well, because
891
01:18:03.319 --> 01:18:09.640
if they would not disintegrate by heat, because if they would not have too
892
01:18:09.800 --> 01:18:14.119
serious problems. Imagine if we could
get our hands on any of this would
893
01:18:14.279 --> 01:18:20.920
be a resounding change due virtually all
over the planet, which would also be
894
01:18:20.960 --> 01:18:26.600
the end of a huge energy business
for many. Speaking of fossil fuels,
895
01:18:27.079 --> 01:18:32.479
talking about different types of energy storage. That is why the issue of total
896
01:18:32.680 --> 01:18:39.119
declassification. That is why it is
the idea that some governments already have in
897
01:18:39.399 --> 01:18:44.560
their possession the remains of these devices
and that they have tried to reverse engineering
898
01:18:44.640 --> 01:18:48.319
or that they are in fact working
with devices developed on the basis of reverse
899
01:18:48.319 --> 01:18:53.199
engineering. Well, it gives us
the pattern that if that' s really
900
01:18:53.239 --> 01:18:59.039
what' s coming in the future, it' s now. But also
901
01:18:59.680 --> 01:19:04.199
this totally unknown, because we have
no idea how it can happen. So
902
01:19:04.319 --> 01:19:15.000
to round off Colonel Carneil was presenting
himself at the Soult Conference in New York
903
01:19:15.159 --> 01:19:24.800
a month ago. And this conference
is a conference exclusively for top- notch
904
01:19:24.960 --> 01:19:30.720
investors from all over the planet,
financial brokers, economists, everyone, the
905
01:19:30.800 --> 01:19:35.560
economy and finance was there. Three
conferences have been held for years in New
906
01:19:35.640 --> 01:19:42.159
York, another in Asia and the
other in the Arab oil countries. And
907
01:19:42.279 --> 01:19:47.239
the coma is that Carneyll worked with
David Grash at UAPTS. He showed up
908
01:19:47.319 --> 01:19:53.359
and said the non- human intelligences
are here with us. I have no
909
01:19:53.600 --> 01:19:57.840
doubt. They' re already here
and this is something we need to understand
910
01:19:58.119 --> 01:20:02.039
and begin to connect to our business
systems, because where all this information is
911
01:20:02.039 --> 01:20:06.199
released, the first thing you'
re going to suggest, which is the
912
01:20:06.800 --> 01:20:12.199
environment, the energy environment. So
attention a lot. Look at that See
913
01:20:12.239 --> 01:20:14.439
what I' m saying. Fernando
hir de Bland. It is very key,
914
01:20:15.520 --> 01:20:20.960
because this case is not only a
case that I would have recorded that
915
01:20:21.079 --> 01:20:26.319
I had left a physical sample of
what the omnis propulsion system is like?
916
01:20:27.640 --> 01:20:30.840
It is that if the issue of
propulsion of the Somnis, if anyone ever
917
01:20:30.960 --> 01:20:34.479
dominates it, can copy it or
we understand it, that will give a
918
01:20:34.560 --> 01:20:40.479
brutal amount of silver, which is
what I believe is also behind a good
919
01:20:40.920 --> 01:20:45.319
clear part of the som investigations nor
the Pentagoni. To see that in New
920
01:20:45.560 --> 01:20:50.680
York Times came Mr Ester, physicist
Eric W. David, saying he was
921
01:20:50.720 --> 01:20:54.520
analyzing the remains of ships from another
world that I don' t say.
922
01:20:54.560 --> 01:20:58.159
I said it New York Time and
commented on it Mr This I repeat Eric
923
01:20:58.159 --> 01:21:03.520
W. Davis, a Pentagon contractor, and this would explain the tremendous,
924
01:21:05.079 --> 01:21:15.760
tremendous military secrecy that we have and, in addition, in that wonderful marriage
925
01:21:15.840 --> 01:21:24.159
that certain private corporations like Bigelow Aeroespece
have in the United States with this type
926
01:21:24.439 --> 01:21:30.880
of research projects of the phenomenon m
and this one at the end of Plata
927
01:21:30.880 --> 01:21:35.479
Rodrigo Bravo. What do you think
of both the Ontario case and these implications,
928
01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:39.479
because in the end it is a
moment of implications in which the military
929
01:21:39.760 --> 01:21:44.239
is and the business is. Yes, it strikes me, first of all
930
01:21:44.680 --> 01:21:48.239
that I' m glad Buffon is
still working, because there was a time
931
01:21:48.319 --> 01:21:53.880
that was very silent and inside the
files, this case is, his number
932
01:21:53.880 --> 01:21:56.960
sixty- four thousand two hundred and
eighty- two, and that' s
933
01:21:56.960 --> 01:22:01.319
no less. Wow. On the
other hand, this case promptly attracts attention
934
01:22:01.720 --> 01:22:05.439
concepts such as plasma that there project
to ask Fernando to see if good.
935
01:22:06.119 --> 01:22:10.119
In fact, it will move us
this weekend in a foological meeting that there
936
01:22:10.119 --> 01:22:15.199
is in the serene in Chile,
by virtue of the museum, the first
937
01:22:15.239 --> 01:22:20.479
museum of the UFO, that was
created here and well, what happened with
938
01:22:20.640 --> 01:22:25.439
that publication project that spoke of plasma
and that, in a way, we
939
01:22:25.479 --> 01:22:30.359
solved fifty percent of the cases that
we had there with as unidentified, because
940
01:22:30.520 --> 01:22:36.880
here they need plasma, they speak
of harmonic resonance, they speak of energy
941
01:22:36.960 --> 01:22:44.600
disturbance and there as you point out
we go to electronic war. There is
942
01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:48.920
a book written by a fellow countryman, yours Daniel Varcárcel, which is very
943
01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:54.840
interesting, which is called intelligence and
electronic warfare, the secret battle of the
944
01:22:55.520 --> 01:22:58.880
magicians, if I am not mistaken, and which describes what electronic war of
945
01:22:59.000 --> 01:23:04.319
defense means, but which in this
type of phenomena, anomalies or manifestations has
946
01:23:04.399 --> 01:23:10.199
been reflected in not many, but
in almost every opportunity, with disturbances,
947
01:23:10.560 --> 01:23:15.680
with blockades, with all that we
have tried to do from a military point
948
01:23:15.760 --> 01:23:24.840
of view to dominate the electromagnetic spectrum. These things seem to be handled or
949
01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:29.680
moved at that level of frequencies,
because they block everything, and not just
950
01:23:29.760 --> 01:23:32.840
block, but, by doing a
little review and a wink at paroufology,
951
01:23:32.960 --> 01:23:39.119
they also cause effects in one other
way, the witnesses, perhaps by those
952
01:23:39.239 --> 01:23:43.840
same electromagnetic waves you will know what
is the disturbance that is generated, because
953
01:23:43.840 --> 01:23:47.920
yes or yes. There are certain
situations that are, on the one hand,
954
01:23:48.119 --> 01:23:54.359
absurd or disconnected, but, on
the other hand, they are shaped
955
01:23:54.439 --> 01:23:58.520
and those disturbances go hand in hand
with this kind of wave missions. Then
956
01:23:59.239 --> 01:24:02.039
it strikes me, because there are
a lot of cases that have similar characteristics.
957
01:24:02.079 --> 01:24:05.760
There is one that immediately came to
mind that was famous, the famous
958
01:24:05.760 --> 01:24:14.359
Ovnil of Bien Watters at the base
in Rundelton Forrest, in December of one
959
01:24:14.479 --> 01:24:17.479
thousand nine hundred and eighty, where
you started this program, making known that
960
01:24:17.560 --> 01:24:24.680
there was in certain a sort of
binary code of itself ball stick ball,
961
01:24:25.159 --> 01:24:29.159
yes, well, one of the
main witnesses of that case Sergeant Major Jim
962
01:24:29.319 --> 01:24:33.800
Penningston, here on the opportunity to
meet in person in the United States,
963
01:24:34.159 --> 01:24:39.279
in the two thousand and seven the
famous Washington Conference. He in his book
964
01:24:39.439 --> 01:24:44.520
In Country in Brundelston Forrett. There
are six pages that are dedicated to taking
965
01:24:44.600 --> 01:24:49.039
out the pictures of his notebook,
where he simply wrote down these codes that
966
01:24:49.399 --> 01:24:55.760
came to his mind after going to
touch the apparatus that was in front of
967
01:24:56.520 --> 01:25:00.399
this whole group of special forces that
surrounded him. Rodrigo I' m sorry
968
01:25:00.479 --> 01:25:03.760
I didn' t know that.
One of the witnesses of rendeng Hand Forrest
969
01:25:03.920 --> 01:25:09.600
Forgive me my English is pathetic,
I know, one of the witnesses of
970
01:25:09.640 --> 01:25:13.640
this very important British case, says
that in his mind he began to pick
971
01:25:13.840 --> 01:25:17.319
up a code and put it in
a notebook, of course. Of course,
972
01:25:17.319 --> 01:25:19.960
and there are six pages of an
appendix to your book. That book
973
01:25:20.079 --> 01:25:26.039
was written with the other witness,
who is John Burregots and Jim Forgiveness,
974
01:25:26.079 --> 01:25:30.960
and with Nick Pop, who was
like the articulator and compiler, and in
975
01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:35.640
his book that in the two thousand
fourteen there are six pages where the binary
976
01:25:35.760 --> 01:25:41.359
code is, the message binary code, which are several pages of his notebook,
977
01:25:41.840 --> 01:25:45.680
because he not only wrote down the
symbols that he was able to perceive.
978
01:25:45.720 --> 01:25:48.119
In this because we understand that a
group of special forces went to surround
979
01:25:48.239 --> 01:25:53.720
something that was introduced within this military
camp. That' s it, a
980
01:25:53.840 --> 01:25:59.199
thousand nine hundred and eighty Cold Wars. There is a strong movement on the
981
01:25:59.279 --> 01:26:02.439
part of such a thing gets involved
and, obviously, everyone thought it was
982
01:26:02.920 --> 01:26:06.039
some apparatus of the Soviet Union.
Then they surround him and realize that he
983
01:26:06.079 --> 01:26:10.600
actually had as much shape as certain
lights that didn' t go or go,
984
01:26:10.920 --> 01:26:16.079
no, no, they weren'
t, let' s say,
985
01:26:16.119 --> 01:26:20.479
you know, you know, for
that one, and this guy, when
986
01:26:20.520 --> 01:26:26.359
he realizes that it sounds completely,
doesn' t let him run out of
987
01:26:27.159 --> 01:26:29.840
his rifle and part and comes and
touches this question and when he touches it
988
01:26:29.840 --> 01:26:30.279
he realizes that it was like a
smooth, metallic and hot material. He
989
01:26:30.359 --> 01:26:34.760
says that like an iron, an
ironing plate of hot clothes and next to
990
01:26:35.560 --> 01:26:40.399
where he put his hand there was
a series of symbols that he wrote down
991
01:26:40.520 --> 01:26:46.039
in his notebook. But when he
comes back, he has in this immediate
992
01:26:46.199 --> 01:26:51.800
memory a series of binary code,
which are six pages that are in his
993
01:26:51.920 --> 01:26:56.279
little notebook and that he takes the
photograph out of his notebook, which for
994
01:26:56.359 --> 01:27:00.840
him is like the most important material, because well, it would have been
995
01:27:00.840 --> 01:27:04.000
a perfect idea of him. But
it turns out that the next day it
996
01:27:04.079 --> 01:27:10.800
was even Colonel Charthart who only saw
this efficient and that when they were the
997
01:27:10.880 --> 01:27:16.159
next day, on the spot,
seeing that there were also electromagnetic disturbances that
998
01:27:16.319 --> 01:27:20.119
even today there is a collective demand
from these witnesses, because they were subjected
999
01:27:20.720 --> 01:27:25.840
to radiation and the army is,
that is, the force of the United
1000
01:27:25.920 --> 01:27:30.760
States denied them that possibility. As
a result, some died of cancer from
1001
01:27:30.880 --> 01:27:33.520
this observation. Yes, sir,
and these were bad. Even one was
1002
01:27:33.560 --> 01:27:39.119
abducted and was fatally healthy. We
had lost time certine. I don'
1003
01:27:39.159 --> 01:27:41.920
t remember the guy' s name, I mean, if that story'
1004
01:27:41.920 --> 01:27:44.680
s a look. One day we
do a program on that case, because
1005
01:27:44.760 --> 01:27:46.960
it' s very accurate. And
there, besides everything, the next day,
1006
01:27:47.279 --> 01:27:53.560
when they were there were electromagnetic disturbance
and movement, very similar impulses,
1007
01:27:53.720 --> 01:27:57.840
to which we just pointed out from
the year two thousand thirteen. So,
1008
01:27:58.760 --> 01:28:03.560
if you start to do this as
a comparative theory. We realize that there
1009
01:28:03.640 --> 01:28:10.159
are certain patterns that are repeated and
that clearly help us not. I think
1010
01:28:10.159 --> 01:28:15.640
they make us worse. But as
we draw key pieces from these reports,
1011
01:28:15.119 --> 01:28:19.479
we realize that there are features that
are very similar and one of those is
1012
01:28:19.800 --> 01:28:26.680
precisely this kind of arbonic resonance or
electromagnetic pulsation, which are, on the
1013
01:28:26.800 --> 01:28:30.119
one hand, disturbing and, on
the other hand, cause side effects on
1014
01:28:30.199 --> 01:28:34.439
people. It is a topic that
is tremendous and the story of that British
1015
01:28:34.520 --> 01:28:42.520
military base that are also up to
the recordings of them when they are following
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01:28:43.239 --> 01:28:45.760
a light that are getting into military
installation lists, there is one that has
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01:28:45.840 --> 01:28:50.359
a sense of time lost as if
time had also stopped and it had been
1018
01:28:50.399 --> 01:28:56.720
x times adduced. It' s
crazy. I didn' t know that
1019
01:28:56.840 --> 01:28:59.960
data Rodrigo told us that the guy
when he puts his hand, they start
1020
01:29:00.279 --> 01:29:03.039
going a binary code to the head
and some symbols. And so I'
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01:29:03.079 --> 01:29:06.520
d like to see the symbols,
because if they have to do with the
1022
01:29:06.520 --> 01:29:10.479
Te case, I' m going
to send the photos and I' m
1023
01:29:10.560 --> 01:29:14.000
going to talk confecting when I'
m going to go to Chile, because
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01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:15.199
I have the contact and we can
talk. I hope you can interview Jin
1025
01:29:15.239 --> 01:29:18.680
Penninstone to deepen this topic. Not
very good. I' m gonna pass
1026
01:29:18.720 --> 01:29:23.199
you the billiards case. I don' t think I' ve ever given
1027
01:29:23.239 --> 01:29:27.479
you everything that the stone symbols appeared
and so remind me this week by Whatsapp
1028
01:29:27.560 --> 01:29:32.560
and I' ll pass it to
you and the symbols and so that it
1029
01:29:33.600 --> 01:29:41.319
' s crazy and clear, all
this leaves a series of electromagnetic brand and
1030
01:29:41.399 --> 01:29:45.319
see in white and bottle. In
other words, they are several key cases
1031
01:29:45.359 --> 01:29:47.960
that have been investigated in depth so
take and when there are the military,
1032
01:29:48.199 --> 01:29:53.199
it is an advantage because they have
a much greater investigative capacity than that of
1033
01:29:53.199 --> 01:30:02.399
a foot folog and they make it
clear to us that this propulsion system effectively
1034
01:30:02.600 --> 01:30:09.399
prevents mechanical objects from working. Such
can disturb our health. How many cases
1035
01:30:09.479 --> 01:30:11.800
there are of people who have been
close to one. I have finished badly
1036
01:30:12.319 --> 01:30:15.039
look what happened here in Colombia,
in the sixty- nine arts and io
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01:30:15.039 --> 01:30:20.119
bel Múdez, for being close to
an identified flying object. And this is
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01:30:20.239 --> 01:30:26.920
data that push us forward and I
think it' s something magnificent. My
1039
01:30:27.000 --> 01:30:30.880
friend Fernando gir de ben has to
comment on this that Rodrigo Bravoca has told
1040
01:30:30.880 --> 01:30:33.199
us. You know, when you
guys talk, you give me a tip
1041
01:30:33.279 --> 01:30:40.960
that you leave me in shoc I
didn' t know that part of this
1042
01:30:40.960 --> 01:30:44.680
case and it left me in shock. What do you think, buddy look
1043
01:30:44.720 --> 01:30:48.800
what is telling us is that what
is telling us, Rodrigigo Vos takes me
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01:30:49.079 --> 01:30:56.159
to the beginning of the program also
because it is super interesting how things are
1045
01:30:56.199 --> 01:30:59.760
connecting and going ivanando with what happens
today. In fact, Rodrigo, yes,
1046
01:30:59.840 --> 01:31:04.079
let' s absolutely try to do
an interview there, because I would
1047
01:31:04.079 --> 01:31:11.159
be delighted. You know this idea
of the zero stick stick that you also
1048
01:31:11.239 --> 01:31:16.640
described at the beginning of this broadcast, that you could talk to JS who
1049
01:31:16.680 --> 01:31:26.119
later found it in this language of
Antiquity. Yeah, but one thing to
1050
01:31:26.119 --> 01:31:29.920
swallow my idea of doing. When
I take out the three words that are
1051
01:31:29.960 --> 01:31:35.119
in the stone, I put the
inscription to rashirras admed of the Foundation in
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01:31:35.239 --> 01:31:40.680
the Arabs and tell him this is
a sentence in the final you tell me
1053
01:31:40.680 --> 01:31:45.359
yes, sure and that is why
you put me in contact with the Adu
1054
01:31:45.439 --> 01:31:47.840
caran in order to be able to
translate it. But I was with a
1055
01:31:48.039 --> 01:31:56.520
professor of history at the University of
Usdah and I did the same thing and
1056
01:31:56.640 --> 01:32:00.640
he told me the same thing.
It was a trick that you can'
1057
01:32:00.720 --> 01:32:04.239
t make up a handwriting. You
understand that I spent it, for example,
1058
01:32:04.479 --> 01:32:10.279
I passed it through two historians,
that is, without them ever assuming
1059
01:32:10.359 --> 01:32:14.720
the source. Whatever it was,
it' s just one thing that'
1060
01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:17.920
s why I got so caught up
in the desert it' s waved so
1061
01:32:18.760 --> 01:32:23.119
many times in the desert and all
those pods, no, but it'
1062
01:32:23.119 --> 01:32:25.560
s just crazy. So when I
give the data Rodrigo Bravo, I say
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01:32:25.640 --> 01:32:29.279
milk pass me the information in case
they match anything. No. I don
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01:32:29.399 --> 01:32:30.800
' t know out of curiosity,
I' m sorry Fernando I cut you
1065
01:32:30.800 --> 01:32:34.520
off all the time. No,
not because of this, because in reality
1066
01:32:34.600 --> 01:32:43.239
this is what we are passionate about
finding these kinds of relationships that are not
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01:32:43.399 --> 01:32:47.600
necessarily always at first sight, but
are only sometimes found even in a form
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01:32:47.720 --> 01:32:53.840
of fortune. Yes, you.
You imagined that if we suddenly ask this
1069
01:32:53.920 --> 01:32:58.319
man what he saw in this binary
code sop, what is it that he
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01:32:58.359 --> 01:33:05.319
perceived and half looks for a stick
zero stick even clear far, which adds
1071
01:33:05.319 --> 01:33:11.880
even more to the idea of cryptoterrestrials, because we are talking about a writing
1072
01:33:12.000 --> 01:33:15.720
that is thousands of years old and
that Paris at a close encounter in the
1073
01:33:16.279 --> 01:33:25.239
nineties in Europe and AparÃs at another
close encounter in the eighties. I think
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01:33:25.359 --> 01:33:30.000
it was also in a country that
also appears in South America. And another
1075
01:33:30.119 --> 01:33:32.680
thing to see, Juan Joventez and
I, well, all day long we
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01:33:32.720 --> 01:33:35.840
do a show and I invite you
both and well, in this case you
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01:33:35.880 --> 01:33:42.119
interview me away from me you interview
me and I tell the stories. It
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01:33:42.319 --> 01:33:45.800
all comes from that when j jota
de Benitez and I sit with this gentleman
1079
01:33:45.880 --> 01:33:51.119
I repeat Rashirras Admes of the Arab
Euro Foundation, when we begin to ask
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01:33:51.279 --> 01:33:56.239
him about the writing and so we
say hear him. There is a place
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01:33:56.479 --> 01:34:00.760
in Algeria, which is the Tasili, where there appear some ungrateful beings and
1082
01:34:00.880 --> 01:34:04.880
there as if they were aliens in
a place called Jabar, in the valley
1083
01:34:04.960 --> 01:34:11.720
of the giants, in tama Check, there is writing. He tells me
1084
01:34:11.800 --> 01:34:15.520
yes clear as much as you want, because what was invented there. I
1085
01:34:15.560 --> 01:34:19.680
was like what and then I signed
to Silly and I saw it already and
1086
01:34:20.079 --> 01:34:24.760
I filmed it clear in Javar,
in the valley of the giants, where
1087
01:34:24.840 --> 01:34:28.399
all the aliens are. And just
in that area, in the Tasilis,
1088
01:34:29.560 --> 01:34:32.880
there' s writing, writing that
hasn' t translated a lot of caravan
1089
01:34:32.960 --> 01:34:36.920
inscriptions, it hasn' t translated
a damn thing that I' ve been
1090
01:34:36.920 --> 01:34:39.800
there exactly. It' s not
like they' re telling me, that
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01:34:39.880 --> 01:34:45.319
means the professional crazy guy forgives faith
Just tell him it' s crazy because
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01:34:45.319 --> 01:34:45.800
I' m gonna throw you away
now. I' m gonna throw something
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01:34:45.960 --> 01:34:50.119
at you now to keep you awake
all morning. You don' t think
1094
01:34:54.680 --> 01:34:59.600
so, no, you don'
t like what I love. You love
1095
01:35:00.319 --> 01:35:02.199
this kind of thing I love it. I love it. Now we are
1096
01:35:02.800 --> 01:35:06.000
going to get back into the realm
of science, because we were talking about
1097
01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:13.720
change, about paradise, about scientists, about these men and women who break
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01:35:14.399 --> 01:35:18.840
up with the cage of thought and
suddenly encourage those questions. Turns out you
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01:35:18.840 --> 01:35:24.319
' re talking a lot to Garry
Noland, who' s a pathologist at
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01:35:24.359 --> 01:35:26.439
Stanford University, was the Nobel Prize
candidate. He wasn' t given to
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01:35:26.520 --> 01:35:32.439
talk about aliens. It is one
of the types that is one of the
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01:35:32.560 --> 01:35:38.640
members of the Foundation only one of
the founders of the Fundación Sol Nada.
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01:35:38.800 --> 01:35:45.000
He' s really a genius.
Turns out you' re a pathologist and
1104
01:35:45.119 --> 01:35:48.840
he' s been developing for many
years. There was a study for the
1105
01:35:49.199 --> 01:35:53.800
intelligence and defense services of the United
States, but he reviewed, in fact,
1106
01:35:54.039 --> 01:35:57.239
with another doctor Kift Green. The
point is this, that' s
1107
01:35:57.319 --> 01:36:00.359
the big question. There' s
a DNA print to look for. It
1108
01:36:00.359 --> 01:36:08.079
turns out that talking a lot with
Garry Nolan one afternoon, speaking for Whatsapp
1109
01:36:08.159 --> 01:36:11.279
before an interview, I say good, because it' s very interesting the
1110
01:36:11.359 --> 01:36:14.079
work he' s doing with the
experimenters. They are the ones who take
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01:36:14.199 --> 01:36:17.720
out this study in which we begin
to talk about experimenters and sequels, which
1112
01:36:17.760 --> 01:36:23.760
leaves the phenomenon about people who have
been very close, for example, who
1113
01:36:23.760 --> 01:36:29.760
mature in the skin, neurological lesions, tinnitus or ringing in the ears,
1114
01:36:29.920 --> 01:36:34.159
etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, problems in the eyes,
1115
01:36:34.720 --> 01:36:39.560
dental programs, a lot of questions. They take out this leaking paper,
1116
01:36:40.039 --> 01:36:44.199
which has to go to a secret
Pentagon commission and also the Senate to also
1117
01:36:44.359 --> 01:36:50.000
evaluate the possibility of reviewing reverse engineering, understanding what the systems of proportion would
1118
01:36:50.039 --> 01:36:58.439
be from the physical sequelae in humans. Well, he does this study,
1119
01:36:58.840 --> 01:37:02.039
shares this information, but he'
s left with a discovery, so it
1120
01:37:02.079 --> 01:37:08.279
' s very interesting, because he
works with a group of U S Navy
1121
01:37:08.359 --> 01:37:14.920
and Air Force pilots and also remote
dividers attention with this. He works with
1122
01:37:15.039 --> 01:37:19.319
both remote viewers and pilots and he
finds himself doing these studies. This is
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01:37:19.399 --> 01:37:23.000
much longer. I' m going
to be super summary. Dale, Dale,
1124
01:37:23.119 --> 01:37:31.960
what' s in the experimenters is
a different brain configuration than the brain
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01:37:32.119 --> 01:37:34.560
configuration of the rest of humanity.
Too bad we' ve reached the end
1126
01:37:34.600 --> 01:37:40.560
of the program. They' re
warning me, Garryon Lan A whole genius
1127
01:37:40.560 --> 01:37:44.760
and infiltrators. We would one day
have to make a program other than that
1128
01:37:44.800 --> 01:37:47.399
possibility that there are beings from another
world who are infiltrated into our society.
1129
01:37:47.800 --> 01:37:53.600
We reach the end of the program
and have thirty seconds each to give the
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01:37:53.600 --> 01:37:56.479
conclusion, the closure and your social
networks. Rodrigo bravo, my friend,
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01:37:56.840 --> 01:38:00.880
you have thirty seconds to close.
Very funny. Thank you for the invitation,
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01:38:00.319 --> 01:38:06.520
as always a very interesting degree,
always at your disposal. My twitter
1133
01:38:06.880 --> 01:38:12.760
or x rice, Bufon, Instagram, ego yon under Buffon a hug.
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01:38:13.279 --> 01:38:23.279
Thank you so much 30 Thank you
very much for the invitation. Arm Turn
1135
01:38:23.439 --> 01:38:29.880
find me simply put the signal on
YouTube and it will look like channel and
1136
01:38:29.960 --> 01:38:33.039
if not, throw Science and Mystery
also on YouTube and they will find my
1137
01:38:33.119 --> 01:38:36.079
channel and if not, they can
also find it on Instagram, where we
1138
01:38:36.079 --> 01:38:39.000
are quite active. Thank you,
thank you for the invitation. It'
1139
01:38:39.039 --> 01:38:41.960
s always a pleasure to be with
you friends. Thank you very much,
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01:38:41.960 --> 01:38:45.800
friends. We highly recommend that YouTube
channel, the Signal Science and Mystery Juan
1141
01:38:45.840 --> 01:38:50.720
one of the programs where we have
had the most news and current in the
1142
01:38:50.800 --> 01:38:55.840
Omni phenomenon privileged to be part of
this panel and can follow me on Instagram
1143
01:38:55.880 --> 01:39:00.560
in arroba abernal Press. We'
re not alone. The phenomenon is not
1144
01:39:00.680 --> 01:39:03.760
much more complex. He looks at
us not only from the stars, from
1145
01:39:03.880 --> 01:39:09.560
under the water, or perhaps from
his neighbor' s balcony. And never,
1146
01:39:09.600 --> 01:39:13.760
never forget that we live in a
magical world, because it is full of mystery
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Or, in fact, time all
the way there. My name is Juan
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Jesús Vallejos and journalist, writer and
director of the Mystery Night program on Caracol
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Radio. In the 1960s, a
physicist Freeman Dyson theorized about the possibility of
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extraterrestrial civilizations using the energy of an
entire star to do this. He had
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to make superstructures, mega structures around
that star so he could absorb his energy.
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This would make those stars, if
viewed from the ground, give different
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anomalies in the telescope. Well,
then, what was theorized in the sixties
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of the last century, just a
few weeks ago has been news, and
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it is that different group of research
cordiaes by universities of world prestige have located
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different stars in the firmament that could
be covered by one of these famous megastructures
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of dison and is that science what
is doing lately and this is very newsable,
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is that it has taken seriously to
look for extraterrestrial civilizations. But if
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you want to know about this and
much more, don' t lose the
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mystery night podcast on Caracol Radio the
extraterrestrial search night and mystery Joan Jesús Vallejo.
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It was a normal afternoon, just
like any other. I am talking
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about July of the year nineteen hundred
and ninety- six and that afternoon a
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peasant from the Spanish province of jaén
of a village called the villains, went
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out for a walk, as he
did every afternoon in that afternoon, in
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those summer days when it was about
sunset and it was less hot. Well,
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this Mr DionisioÃvila, an illiterate
peasant, did not know how to
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read or write. He went out
to walk quietly and sat down, as
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he did so many other times,
right next to a small Era, it
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was a place where the wheat is
threshed. Well, and when DionisioÃvila
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was sitting there, he commented and
I was lucky enough to be with him,
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he commented how suddenly he saw a
semi- spherical metallic object. That
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intrigued him and thought that semi-
spherical metal object would be some kind of
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good container of forest services. But
he intrigued him, so he got up.
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It approached until the semispheric, metallic
object and just when it was a
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few meters near it already very close. He comments that there is a moment
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when when when the object passes certain
meters, it kind of blurs it makes
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him very nervous, he turns back, he sees perfectly the object and when
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he sees again perfectly the object,
he comments on how there are two women
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and a man. He didn'
t talk about aliens or anything like that.
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Just two women and a man.
And John ge said to me There
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were two women and a man,
because they had very tight suits and they
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were noticed what was in the crotch, with which two women and a man.
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That' s how I talked about
it. There was this gentleman and
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just when he' s looking at
those beings, I repeat being of his
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hand like you and as I was
saying he had a little olive in his
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skin. But perfectly normal, lying
in a dark grey monkey, he comments
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how at that very moment from the
ship he comes out as a spherite of
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light that falls right at his feet, looks at him, looks down and
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realizes that it is a stone with
a series of engravings. Curious because on
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that stone there was an engraving that
was a stick, a zero and a
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stick as if it were a hundred
one, but completely straight. The stick.
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Palito, zero stick, just stick, zero stick is what he saw.
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Also, in that semi- spherical
metallic object, when DionisioÃvila bends
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down and takes that stone with that
engraving. When raising his head, he
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sees neither the semi- spherical metallic
object nor the three beings who were looking
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at him. Scared to death,
he runs away and leaves for his home.
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Weeks later, two reporters I know
pretty well. I' m friends
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with them. I worked with them
for many years. In addition, two
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reporters working at that time in Enigma
magazine, Lorenzo Fernández Bueno and Iker Jiménez,
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today very well known. One presents
documentaries on Discovery Channel and the other
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runs a program called Cuarto Millennio in
Spain on television. Well, then,
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these two friends, who are reporters, are headed for s to this locality.
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De Jaén because there were also people
who had filmed in those same days
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of July of the year nineteen hundred
and ninety- six. They had filmed
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an omni, there were a lot
of witnesses to a luminous object at night
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one night. And it' s
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Lorenzo and he tells me this story, he tells me about the stick zero
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stick. I' m telling you, you' re not gonna believe it,
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but that' s the same thing
in the same symbols. A friend
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of mine made them for me His
name is Sad. A few days ago
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Juan told me about Gas Foolishness.
I say I tell you that he has
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made me the same symbols. And
he also told me that it' s
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a type of writing that' s
called tipinag berever writing. And, well,
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that' s what' s left. I was told no more the
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stone and the symbols of the stone. All this has already been done by
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a well- known writer named JJ
Benitez. I sent a letter to JJ
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Benita. JJ BenÃtez called me on
the phone that we' re having lunch.
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That' s where I met him. Then I worked with him.
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In this case I calculate a couple
of years or more And when I am
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with Juan José BenÃtez and we comment
this story and show me the symbols that
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are in the stone and there is
the stick zero stick as it appeared in
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the object of hemispheric, metallic call
it an omnic what I think was also
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we said well, because we will
interview someone who really knows about this and
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we went to interview a Mr Rashir
Rahadmet, who was belonging to the European
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Arab Foundation. And he' s
quite a scholar in Berber issues in North
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Africa. And it' s funny
because when we' re sitting there asking
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this gentleman to hear zero stick stop
a Berber word, yes or no,
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and he told me for me I' m not clear about this. I
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' m not sure. I don' t know why you ask me this
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and so on and we just turned
our heads to the right and there was
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a poster of a stone in a
museum in Rabat and right in the middle
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it carries the symbols sticks, zero
stick, which are the word them or
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them. And this thing I'
m telling you is not science, fiction.
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It was lived by a servant.
You have asked me many times in
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networks want me to tell this story. I told it in a book,
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in the Andalusian operation. He never
told it here on Caracol Radio. I
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promise on my YouTube channel if it' s hidden behind the shadows and it
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' s, but good one day. I' m counting it here on
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Caracol Radio. With all luxury of
detail, because it is a very,
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very, very long investigation that lasted
year and my milk reflections and if we
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have them and they are trying as
one with us, in this case,
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through one of the oldest alphabets that
exists in the world, the typhinaj,
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as if thousands of years ago they
had been here, in North Africa and
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had been in contact with civilizations that
had an ancient criture and they also learned
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to do it, to express themselves
through that writing. Zero stick, stick
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them or them. It would be
said, to be exact, neither without
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them nor of them, an eternal
message that looks at us from the stars
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and that makes us reflect and makes
us think about really we have them in
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front of us and we are still
not able to understand ourselves with them or
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maybe they come here. They watch
us, they don' t wink,
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but they leave us to our free
will. The lords who are in the
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stars and the science that is increasingly
seeking life out of our planet as well.
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And that' s what today'
s program is about, how far
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science is coming, and how far, for example, new scientific research is
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coming that is covered by the pentagon
in news that, for sure, or
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will intrigue our fellow stars who occasionally
wink at us to remind us that they
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are still there. My name is
Juan Jesús Vallejo. What you want to
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follow me on social networks, on
my tweets Juan que Vallejo, Juan j
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Vallejo, on Instagram, on Facebook
Juan Jesús Vallejo. And this is another
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mystery night show. And here what
we do is mystery journalism. We oppose
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the facts on the table and you
decide what is behind it and not what
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you think of this story that I
have told you at the beginning of the
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program, in the introduction the famous
case Villares, in the town of Los
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Billares, Jaén Andalusia, Spain,
which, in the end the dessert,
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was possibly one of the most important
omni cases of the decade of the nineties
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at the Spanish level, sure and
if I hurry, at the European level,
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they too. Or of them three
letters Palo zero Palo that were written
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thousands of years ago in the Sahara
desert and that today also continue to be
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written. The tiffinac That alphabet is
an alphabet that is still completely alive.
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You know I' m doing copyright
trips. The information of these trips is
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available on the website three Viajes Juan
Jesús Vallejo com I repeat Viajes Juan Jesús
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valle com From September 22nd to October
1st of this year I will be in
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Egypt walking by the magic of the
pyramids and navigating the Nile to immerse us
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in all the mystery of some temples
that boast this river of life and that
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have a magic that today remains intact
and I assure you after forming. Whatever
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you want to point to that trip. I repeat all the information on the
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website Viajes Juan Jesús Vallejo com and
we start without curse. Alejandro Bernal,
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partner friend, how you are Very
well, Juan, I have a greeting
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for you, also for Richie in
the controls, for our exceptional guests of
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this program. Rodrigo Bravo from Chile, Fernando I from Brandan from Argentina,
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also a huge embrace for all the
people who consume this content through the podcast
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that we publish on the YouTube channel
of Caracol Radio Juange today a program of
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net current on the OMNI phenomenon,
on scientific projects, on news at the
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media level, on this great mystery
that we are so passionate about you think
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about what I commented on at the
beginning. We' re already obsessed now
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with looking for biosignature exoplanet. I
don' t know that in the universe
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with remains of life we asked both
Fernando and Rodrigo that they sure know they
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' re going to go to that
kind of news, because they say that
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soon they' re going to publicly
announce that life has already been found outside
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the earth, but you don'
t find it a bit curious, this
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a little paradoxical. Come look at
the stars and we have cases are sample
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mignos that are here, even that
handle very ancient alphabets, as is the
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case of the berber Juange. And
especially because I think that this scientific approach,
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while very respectable, I think that
we are also forgetting to see our
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world and who tells us if on
our planet we have been coexisting with a
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different civilization than the human one I
have made is an approach that I hope
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to talk about later here in the
program a research from Harvard University that poses
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this possibility, which is really amazing. Indeed, looking at the stars and
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perhaps the stars have come down here
and we have them in front of us
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and we have not been able to
see them, not because we have a
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mind, perhaps too much optus in
a certain sense. And those who know
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a lot about the OMNI phenomenon are
the guests we have tonight, who have
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already heard them countless times. They
are regular collaborators of mystery night and for
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me it is a pride and pleasure
that they are here tonight and we start
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for Chile, for the lands of
the South. There, in Punta Arenas,
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is our friend Rodrigo. Bravo Rodrigo, friend, Good night, how
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you are, Juan Jesús, Good
night, I hear you, I listen
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perfectly, friend, very good night. I vote to Saluarte the same,
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Alejandro and for Fernando, who then
does not also look to give his health
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a special hug from the southern Punta
Arenas, all snowy, all white,
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expected temperatures of fifteen years under zero
goes this week, so we are enjoying
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the winter in full. That'
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show. Yes, Chile, Argentina, Colombia, all South American brothers here
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tonight go that is also there listening
to us and being part again at night
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of mystery our good friend Fernando gil
de Bran, who is the director of
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the YouTube channel the sign science and
mystery. Where I assure you that you
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are going to find the best interviews
of the Omni theme in the whole continent,
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because I do not know how Fernando
is able to interview everyone, who
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then we do not have to ask
about the issue of Omua. It'
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s an asteroid and a villo ed
that since I think chafs is when Argentina
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goes, it' s going to
take a ferné there when with Fernando Seguro,
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Mr Avilo ep professor at Harvard University, Fernando, fellow friend, good
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night, how you are good,
but very good night juange and everyone.
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So, thank you, Rodrigo,
thank you Sale, thank you for the
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happy invitation to be tonight sharing these
mysteries and also the science that finally messes
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with the mysteries and opens the fourth. That' s where you just nailed
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him and that' s what it' s all about tonight' s show.
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Science seems to suddenly come out of
the closet and say good. Listen
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let' s start looking at the
stars and this extra program we' re
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doing, because the other day Rodrigo
told me, Bravo like this in private
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told me listen Juan that you have
seen the news that has come out on
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the subject of Dyson' s spheres. For people to understand, understand this.
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There was a physicist in the 1960s, Freemandison, who commented that a
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great civilization might come to have the
acidic layer of using the energy of a
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star. So, to do that, to use the energy of a star,
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I would have to do it around
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imagine putting a bunch of satellites,
solar partners to catch that energy either like
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some kind of big belt, or
make some kind of bubble. And if
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this really is physical theory Freemandison'
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this would be observable. They would
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the rest of the stars and suddenly, science has started to investigate this seriously
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and different universities, such as Upsala' s in Sweden, as they have
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selected a group of stars in objects. It' s seven stars. They
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' re not such a scattered group. Seven stars who are convinced that they
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could obey this pattern said by physicist
freemandson Rodrigo Bravo. Why did you get
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so caught up in this news Good
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type of publication where this became known. Note that this publication, as well
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as you will teach from Upsala University, of an astrophysicist I understand, is
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being his doctorate, the young MatÃas, suazo along with eight, actually nine,
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because she joins a researcher named Gabriela
Contardo of the International School of Advanced
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Studies of Italy. They published an
article in the Monty and notais of Royal
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Astronomic Society, that is, the
monthly news of the Royal Astronomical Academy or
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the Astronomical Society, which is an
academic journal of category K or are Q
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one, that is, those that
have a greater percentage not only of observations,
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but also of scientific rigour. And
in that magazine there' s an
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article on this whole thing. This
magazine was created. I understand that in
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a thousand eight hundred and so much
around, pigeon, I do not remember
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the exact record, but I read
that it was from the end of one
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thousand eight hundred. There after,
maybe Fernando can give me that exact article
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ready. It turns out that it
is a journal specialized in what is astronomy
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specialized in studies, etc, etc, etc, linked to space exploration and
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the search for information of our scientific
knowledge. But through space and they,
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in a fairly neat study, as
you well say, you managed to understand
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that of the five million stars you
observed, you managed to understand that there
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are seven that have an excessive temperature
or infrared heat. So, those seven.
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The only way you can explain these
observations for now is that they are
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simply associated with what Dyson' s
spheres are, which are these superstructures that,
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in one other way, take a
sort of radiation in order to simply
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get energy. But for that structure
to be built or for them to excel
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those structures is because there' s
a fabrication behind some kind of super-
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super- advanced intelligence. And that' s where this dispute or this sort
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of controversy comes from, because,
although they raise it as in working hypothesis,
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the fact that it is already published
in a magazine of this category or
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of these characteristics simply makes it clear
that today, as Fernando did his introduction
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here in I take advantage of greeting
and provided that the last time this in
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his program is with fever, he
ends up, very sick, he is
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with a flu, those terrible.
He finally pointed it out, science is
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opening up now, it' s
not that it' s opening up,
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it' s that it' s
being public and we' re echoing this
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kind of information, because scientists are
the ones who are most open to these
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and those who deny these are the
pseudo- scientists, the negators who,
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in one other way, try from
a very positivist point of view, to
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deny this possibility, taking into account
that, in addition, these academics.
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This group that published in this magazine
points out or as an extra fact that
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here is a very interesting topic.
This is an infrared observation and our,
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our detection systems of this type of
temperature, of this kind of behavior,
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especially the stars that are scattered in
the universe. It was via the Galla
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satellite that one is located about five
million kilometers of the earth and that they
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clearly observe it in an infrared way. But yes, everything that has been
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achieved today with information through infrared filters
or captures, visible ultraviolet, etcetera,
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etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. What
is observable today is simply about a four
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comma five percent. From there there
are twenty- seven percent that I have
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called dark matter, which does not
shine. Therefore, it cannot be captured
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under any type of system. Today
known by earth or by us, by
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our technology, by our science,
but it can only be grasped by the
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movement that it has to say,
through its gravity, through the forces that
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are exercised. That' s that
kind of dark matter. And so all,
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so and all, Adding that twenty- seven percent dark matter, along
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with the four comma five of the
visible, is almost sixty- eight percent,
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which is absolutely and recognizable. Not
if you do that is defined as
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dark energy and that we have no
idea what it is whether or how it
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behaves, or what it does.
Therefore, this type of approximations, like
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the one that made the most days
soazo the other with Gabriela with delay,
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are the tip of the iceber of
what it means to transparentize what our universe
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is is that Rodrigo to see you
have explained it magisterially and I think the
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key is the following. First.
We really don' t know what'
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s more than ninety percent of the
universe around us. We don' t
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know what dark matter or dark energy
is. But, on top of that,
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the key to everything is what you' re saying that there was in
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a scientific journal of that category,
an article on the search for extraterrestrial civilizations.
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That three or four years ago,
I think I was and unthinkable,
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that is, just with a scientist
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re going to do some research to
look for traces. It is that clear
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the article very good what they are
doing, looking for traces of extraterrestrial technologies
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and, moreover, much more advanced
than ours in a scientific study that selects
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seven stars of between five million.
Then, in addition, there is also
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another study of an Italian university that
is selected fifty- three stars. But
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this, this, this is all
key, I mean, a few years
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ago, tell me rhodrig for our
friends who are listening to us. That
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' s what they' re going
to then play your podcast. Please go
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to the academic Google and put matÃas
faso two thousand twenty- four and that
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' s where this article directly leads
you to the magazine article and you can
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download it. It' s a
very, very complex technical language, but
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translating it you can have a moment, which is what they tried to explain
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in this pay But and what you' re saying sorry nothing, nothing at
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all. You can interrupt me when
you want a friend here. This is
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a chat between friends and I think
super important in this paradigm shift that there
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has been that we suddenly see a
scientific article looking for extraterrestrial civilizations. I
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think one of the keys is a
man called abilo ev that in the year
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two thousand seventeen, after he caught
an asteroid coming from outside the solar system,
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called omoa or mua. He'
s talking directly about how this could
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be an interstellar ship. I could
not. He claims it' s an
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interstellar ship. He' s facing
all the scientists, but of course Mr
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He' s the president of Harvard
astronomy, which is that he' s
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not just any prude of life and
he' s taking it and he'
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s going to make an expedition to
look for another object. Interstellar that has
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fallen out of the solar system to
the waters of Papua and finds small splinters
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that clearly came out of the solar
system. And Fernando Hildebran has interviewed Viloed
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and hears Fernando You who have been
investigating the OMNI phenomenon for so many years
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and you know it well, before
scientists hated us and gave us an interview
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less yet And suddenly and suddenly this
change and that you on your YouTube channel
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on the science and mystery signal,
have this kind of character talking about the
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man phenomenon. This is a radical
paradigm shift. Fernando. Absolutely, you
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absolutely know that I want to refer
to something that said ebernal at the beginning,
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when reference was made to this paper
that comes out of Harvard, from
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anthropological and psychology researchers who talk about
the possibility of the existence of crypto terrestrial
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life, of a civilization hidden between
us and you know that I just contacted
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Ãvilar to ask him for a hand
for these boys to be on the program.
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So most likely you can interview some
of the scientists that made this paper,
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which is super interesting and all thanks
to our friend Abilo, uh he
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' s practically a friend of the
house. I can' t believe it
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because you imagine what you were saying
just five years ago, you thought about
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science about these issues. I was
talking to a utopia. Yeah, yeah,
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well, they' re here and
collaborating. It' s not very
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crazy. I mean, let'
s see you interview Villo ef why you
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think this guy' s sorry.
From what I' m going to say,
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he threw enough balls at her to
confront the whole academic world, the
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whole scientific world, and say,
gentlemen, that I love a ship from
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another world and I take out a
book and I' m going to go
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look for objects of interest to the
Pacific and I' m going to say
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a word and I' m a
machine on the subject of astronomy and I
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' m going to tell you something
else I care about your shit, it
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' s okay that it' s
brutal. Why do you think it was
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abellodeve Fernando you know him Mira.
The truth is, knowing him a little
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bit, barely what I know him. I think because he' s a
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real scientist. I think that in
recent decades and this I have seen unfortunately
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represented in people who say to themselves
scientists and have lost curiosity. We have
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seen science arm itself with quintites and
arm itself with quintites, mainly motivated by
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the need for a budget. No, and it' s a reality.
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Scientists need budget to be able to
continue operating, to do their research,
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but it is also true that scientists
sign statements of non- declassification of content
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with private companies that contrast is that
there is an international scientific community, but
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that international scientific community suffers from many
practices that large corporations try to apply to
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it. And the reality is that
this has led to a stage of science
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that the scientists themselves, below you
tell Mira, is not exactly the best
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moment that science has gone through,
at least from the point of view of
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asking us new questions in the fields
that have already started a long time ago
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with people who asked uncomfortable questions at
uncomfortable times and started looking against tide in
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those fields. Fields are still being
investigated. It is always a challenge in
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the whole sense, in life and
in science, that has reached a point
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in the picture some scientists that have
almost become some religious scientists, it gets
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quite complicated, because there we get
more involved with dogmatic questions and that it
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would be very good to analyze it
from an anthropological point of view, because
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something that has to serve us as
a tool to understand reality, to understand
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that we have around, can be
turned, can be transformed into a prison
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of thought. It seems to me
that what ABILOEB has achieved in recent years
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is to break with that prison of
thought, along with another good number of
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American scientists, Latin American Europeans.
In Latin America there are great, great
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examples and leaving the house to ask
uncomfortable questions and begin to realize what I
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think, which are new fields of
science that are going to open up a
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stronger and more traceable path. What' s more, I tell you something
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that a biologist friend of mine always
tells me, that he' s a
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great scientist, a paleontologist here in
Argentina who really admires a lot and tells
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me to be scientific. You don' t have to do that to someone
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who went to a college and has
a degree. There is also civil science,
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urban science, field science. We
all do science by experiencing reality,
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looking for answers to the things we
don' t find and from there to
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the academic state. Sometimes time passes, but when the burden of proof is
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important enough. It ends with a
flowering, as is this in the case
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of the search for extraterrestrial and,
for example, the identified smelling objects.
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Let us be Habi has done so, in addition to a very important scientific
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movement, also a movement would tell
him, according to my personal understanding,
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a very important political movement, planting
an observatory looking for flying objects identified on
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the roof of the main building of
Harvard University. He didn' t go
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to put it in his house or
some friend' s house. He didn
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' t plant them on Harvard'
s roof. This is a statement of
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principle. It is a declaration of
principles that seeks to break with this cage
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of thought in order to dare to
ask new questions that will lead us.
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How we sometimes talk with valet to
new answers What we need then. I
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' m glad this happens. I
am happy that we are taking these steps
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and that we meet with these works, such as the paper on Dyson'
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s spheres, as the paper on
cryptoterrestrials. I think these are things that
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feed us a lot. But besides, they' re fine, they'
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re opening the door for us to
understand that reality is much more than we
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think and that we have to achieve
that to survive as a civilization. Finally,
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gentlemen, reality is much more complex
than we thought, because, as
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Rodrigo Bravo told us, more than
ninety percent of the universe around us do
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not know what. It' s
but there' s one thing that'
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s very clear. What you have
already said is not only the science involved
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in something that until now seemed impossible
to us, that was La la,
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the search for extraterrestrial life, with
a broad view, not with that cage
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of thought, as our friend Fernando
Hillebram was speaking to us, but that
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what is suddenly a group of scientists
abandons flagmen. That' s how much
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ev will have come up behind,
like the boys who have done the study
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of the dison spheres what they have
done suddenly, that is, science has
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to be protected by free thought.
There are a lot of facts and things
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that are there. We' re
going to investigate it and this is a
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whole political, philosophical, human media
issue. Behind a paradigm shift in the
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science of Ajandra Bana Juan hey It
is that, precisely about what Fernando was
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talking about, a few moments ago, a series of scientists from Harvard University,
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in the company of researchers from a
group of scientists known as The Human
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Florshin Program, put forward an alternative
hypothesis for non- human intelligences who were
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living with us on our planet and
who were responsible for the development of this
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technology that clearly exceeds us and Juan
Gesto was published in the New York Post
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a few days ago and, according
to these experts, these men of science,
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there would be four possibilities of this
new terrestrial crypto concept, these non
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- human intelligences that would be living
with us. The first of these would
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be human cryptoterrestrials that would be a
possible advanced ancient civilization that could have been
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destroyed, but which continued to exist
in the present form of humans. The
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second possibility would be cryptoterrestrials or minids
or theropods, which could be an alleged
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technologically advanced non- human civilization that
could have evolved to live in stealth.
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The other typology that these scientists established
is that of terrestrial cryptos, extraterrestrials that
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would be aliens that could have come
from space or from the future. This
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very interested hypothesis San Juange because it
already raises the possibility of the crononautas.
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Then these extraterrestrial beings, who would
have come from elsewhere in the universe or
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from the future, would have camouflaged
themselves to live hidden with us on earth
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and on our natural satellite, on
the moon. And the last definition these
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scientists establish is the cryptoterrestrials in magic. The authors of this paper, as
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Fernando pointed out, compared these entities
as angels or divine beings, beings who
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would be part of the mythologies of
religions, these beings who would have accompanied
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us since man was man, who
would be less technological beings, but who
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would have a high spiritual burden.
What you just told me looks like milk
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to me. Remember that when I
got here today at the studio in snail
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me you said hey, John got
a tan. I don' t know
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what and I told you to tell
him. I didn' t know it
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and I haven' t read it
and I' m saying it, but
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you' ve obviously documented telling it. I see Fernando Gillebrand knew him too.
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I don' t know if Rodrigo
bravo. Now I' m going
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to ask him. It' s
just that I' m sorry. I
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get excited because it looks like milk
to me. I mean, let'
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s see. They are talking about
an advanced civilization that is possible to disappear.
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Let' s say, let'
s say with the hand of God,
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the unearthly master, as we talked
about Atlantis, Lemuria, that humanity,
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before humanity that had a supertech and
could disappear. But they are talking
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to us about ansi in alien,
about how space travelers who can come from
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the future arrived, who were also
on the moon. Here we have spoken
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of the ruin of the Moon.
And when I got the statements from Aran
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Davis, NASA' s telecommunications engineer, telling me that I had seen images
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of ruins on the moon of the
famous elementals, angels, goblins, demons
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are also magical beings that seem to
travel, that they are interdimensional and that
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in different places that are like doors
in this world, there appears to be
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suddenly an article in Harvar University'
s Jarp a study on this. This
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is not a paradigm shift that I
want to meet these people to invite them
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for drinks and to eat a good
roast. I mean, I think it
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' s incredible rhodrig, bravo.
What do you think? I mean,
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this is a male bomb. Yeah, well, I, in that sense,
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I' m pretty. I don' t know it' s optimistic,
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but I think and here in this
program we talked about it here there
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was a uncovering and that stake split
the two thousand twenty- two thousand twenty
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- one. So, obviously,
this allows for freedom of movement. Here
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is a Chilean author named Antonio Escarmeta, who has a very entertaining novel that
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is called that and that gives rise
to the fact that today all this that
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used to be the almost table conversation. Or even if, as Ferdinand rightly
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said, those who spoke this otherwise
were crucified. Yes, of course,
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Jack himself was worth the same mico
Caku how many times, or more,
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the same Abby Love, who published
his book the two thousand twenty, at
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a time before this open report,
the pentagon of two thousand twenty- one.
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Two thousand and twenty was caught by
his colleagues. I mean, to
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this day. There are some assets
that you are transmitting in another frequency when
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the reality we realize is going all
that way. But this I don'
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t, I don' t see
it casually I in that sense, maybe
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I have my apprehensions and I'
m a little more cautious because of course,
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all these possibilities are right here.
So do we. As for historical
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knowledge, we are limited by the
time we have recorded. Written. There
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are certain precedents that we don'
t handle earth movements of water and back
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there, anything is possible. But
I go a little further and go more
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than what might have happened in time. Already from behind, I' m
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keeping an eye on what' s
happening and what' s going to happen
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in a very short time. For
the future I explain to myself I am
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super concerned and I make an analogy
with science fiction, that science fiction,
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in a way, has given us
certain lights about how science, technology,
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innovation, etcetera, and so on. I worry, for example, what
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is being planned with the moon,
a plan of exploitation of the moon,
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that is, you see it is
science fiction when we read the time machine
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and see that in one of the
trips in an adaptation that there was a
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movie. I believe that the two
thousand two, on one of his travels,
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the person or this protagonist Alexander,
I do not know how much he
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went into the future and saw that
civilization had evolved and that, in fact,
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he observes the moon that is split
as in various parts. Of course
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that brought terrible consequences for the tides, et cetera, et cetera. Well,
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today what is being planned to try
to pull out the three helium and
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do mining surveys in the first place, and secondly, it has a platform
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or a sort of natural space station
for future missions, whether it' s
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Mars to the other side. So, to me all this that we are
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today fascinated by because they are giving
us little crumbs of information that have already
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been discussed and discussed many years ago
by some thinking entities of our environment,
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everything is driven. I believe that
because, just as we discussed it here
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from this classification that departed the two
thousand twenty- one, it has a
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term date that in two thousand twenty- six, But what are we going
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to tell the two thousand twenty-
six that there are vestiges of a possible
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past activity or life on Mars Chuta. For many of us it is going
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to make a novelty that is actually
going to explode and there is going to
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be a mining exploitation on the moon, because today, whatever it is,
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we are looking for a decarbonization of
the earth, the energy matrices are changing,
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but in the long run it also
goes hand in hand with the developments
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themselves, because in a world where
we are going to do in a certain
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way, I do not mean governed, but there is going to be a
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coercion with artificial intelligence, with robotics, there is going to be a very
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important amount of human beings that are
going to be between useless quotations, without
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trades, without employment and energetically we
have to keep it. So I point
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out that this is going, on
the one hand, with a development,
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with a search, but, on
the other hand, also with giving us
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more or less the guidelines of where, where our culture goes, our civilization,
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our innovation and, of course,
those who are above ruling. Because
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this problem is that today we see
it as almost far away or as utopian
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as if it were analogically science fiction
being around the corner. Then there the
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information that the day is giving us, as well as gradually is fascinating.
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For those of us who have been
involved in this for several years, it
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' s good that it' s
transparent. But, on the other hand,
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I also think it goes hand in
hand with a back load, down,
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an added value that so, if
we don' t look at it
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between lines, they' re going
to make us a golea again. As
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always, what you say. I
think it' s clear. We have
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to look at everything as a whole. I mean, I think thanks to
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characters like Abillo ev also for all
the somni leaks that there were since December
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of the year two thousand seventeen by
people of the Pentagon. By the way,
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there is now a very good Pentagon
report that Alejandro Bernal is going to
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tell us, too, of a
sighting that has taken place in Ontario in
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which this year two thousand and thirteen, but the story is very good and
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has been made public. Now you
have to see everything as a whole and
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in that set it is a change, I think it is okay then I
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also want Fernando' s opinion,
not in time, because in a good
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minute the computer, but then I
ask Fernando' s opinion. It is
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a total and absolute paradigm shift,
that is, to see a study of
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people who are at Harvard publicly on
a scientific level, speaking of a humanity
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before humanity of extraterrestrial visits, in
the ancient Antia in Alien, the series
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in which I have participated several times, by the way, of History Channel,
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to tell us about all this,
which I do not know, that
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they are looking for spheres of Dyson, looking for remains of alien civilizations that
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are palpable. All this is a
paradigm shift at the same time as what
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Rodrigo, Rodrigo Bravo, has proposed
to us we have to leave the earth.
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So or yes and Stephen Hawking already
said, either we get out of
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the land or we go to hell
because we' re brutes, because we
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' re ruled by politicians and politicians
are the most corrupt and ungrateful people in
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the world. Climate change such I
don' t know what. Then clear
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fundamental the first look at the moon
for geomining exploitation. You think of some
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of those who are listening to this
and without putting the comments on YouTube,
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which you hear later on the podcast
on YouTube. You think some of us
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human beings are going to share the
moon. The Chinese and the gringos are
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no longer there sticking with cakes,
because the problem is that you don'
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t need to put the lunar base
anywhere. It has to be at the
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South Pole that there' s a
lot of water, but with that water
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you have hydrogen, you have fuel. People can drink clear, it'
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s super key, it' s
just in the south, so it'
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s funny, because gringos, who
are very pragmatic, they' re clear,
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they' ve already made their army
of stars, they' ve already
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made their aerospace force to stick with
the Chinese as they come up to me,
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that is, we human beings are, we' re the milk and
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here we' re still on mystery
night and we' re talking about this
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paradigm shift so tremendous that they'
re seeing in science, where suddenly it
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seems that they' re no longer
afraid to look for traces, of extraterrestrial
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civilizations through Dyson' s spheres,
of those superstructures that have to have advancements
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surrounding a star to use their energy, which they' re able to do
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even for example, with studies like
this group of people from Harvard University talking
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about visitors to the stars thousands of
years ago and how they could influence our
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civilizations, even the emergence of interdimensional
beings that were taken as angels and as
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demons. And I would like,
Fernando Hilderran, what do you think of
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this wonderful Harvard study and what do
you also think, for example, Fernando,
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of this paradigm shift that well,
I think scientists also come out of
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the closet, because we need to
look at the stars. We have no
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choice but to end up coming out
of planet Earth exactly my dear John,
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which we are totally agreed upon.
Allow me to approach you a greeting to
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our common friend, Fernando or Esquera
who is listening to the program. How
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good to greet the family to give
a strong hug, to Fernando, to
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Sara, to his father- in- law, to Ernesto and to see
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if he comes to Egypt, that
they disgust me to know if he comes
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in Egypt this year, to see
to see very well, very well,
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very well. I love it,
I love it and I pass. I
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greet the family, Lords, who
are very attached to the community, who
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follow my channel listening to your show
tonight and always listen to it so they
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are all fascinated. So what our
dear friend said a few minutes ago is
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very interesting, because this idea of
the spatial exploitation of what is coming.
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I understand that Rodrigo is out there
a little worried about all this, but
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it also seems to me that there
is a rhetoric in this whole story that
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we should review. Not because I
think I understand that what Rodrigo wanted to
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communicate to us, which is because
I will know in person the weekend of
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the serene, what he tried to
communicate to us is that, somehow there
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is like a media move to distract
the attention of some things that are perhaps
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more important through others that may not
be so much or that we already know
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or have studied it. I understand
that point of view because, somehow,
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those of us who are fond of
these subjects so many years ago, who
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study them, who follow them,
who do journalism, who or who do
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research, there are things that we
have been talking about decades ago, but
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the general public has not even the
faintest idea that there is a word that
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is called, that is Confusing as
a terrestrial crypt, that is to say
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hidden terrestrial or in the shadows.
And if tomorrow the news is given that
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non- human intelligences exist and this
is confirmed by universities and governments and is
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also launched as a world news and
in the middle it is added that they
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not only exist, but also come
here with us on our planet. It
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occurs to me that crumbling, in
trade exchanges, in religions, in all
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social strata is going to be quite
important. So this is something that we
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don' t have to lose sight
of, because in reality, it gives
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me the feeling that the paradigm shift
is taking place through a visual change of
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reality, because, after all,
if the United States, or China or
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Russia want to exploit the moon and
extract the biots that we know or don
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' t, it changes absolutely nothing, that we agree, no, it
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doesn' t change absolutely anything.
One of the Presidents most dear to the
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American people was the Shane end Gerald
and what happened to those who killed him
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the truth, for everything in the
government they wanted. So much because,
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according to the most interesting investigations,
there was a plot that included the Central
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Intelligence Agency, where it is more
to say that all that information has not
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yet been released, when it should
have been released a few years ago.
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Then friend the feeling that we are
actually looking at our navel a little bit
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and here are important things happening,
because it is that talking about the topic
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of terrestrial cryptos, which is tremendously
interesting, and I share the enthusiasm that
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someone has with this topic. You
know that a while ago I was interviewing
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you with another scientist who is very
open on this subject, who is Kevin
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Canut esx astrophysicist of NASA today.
Castro' s boss was from astrophysics at
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Albany University, which he told me
because I say there which is the best
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hypothesis. Only aliens. I call
me Mira. I developed a study as
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a simulation to try to see how
many advanced civilizations there could be in our
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galaxy and from there, how many
could have survived themselves so that we could
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begin to colonize the galaxy and those
civilizations, how many could have found us
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and how long ago? It turns
out that the result that inherited us is
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who would have found us approximately according
to these simulations that he also presented at
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the Institute max Planck of Physics in
Germany as a presentation and as a scientific
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project that in addition, applauded him
very much and everyone took note. He
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gave him that they would have found
us about three hundred thousand years ago.
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So look out for this, because, for example, Kevin Cano' s
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crypto- terrestrial hypothesis is that these
extraterrestrials found planet Earth three hundred thousand years
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ago and settled in the seas and
oceans. That' s why we don
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' t see it all the time, because we know more about the surface
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of Mars than about our own oceans. It' s more deserved look so
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selegated. He said in the seventies
that he well thought that he had lived
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intelligently from the Universe, but that
there was something that did not close him
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to the phenomenon, nor was it
the periodicity of the insistence of the appearances
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of the phenomenon. Then it says
clearly it was there at the tip.
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Only one more logical step was missing. The next logical step is that they
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do not come from the stars to
our planet all the time to visit us,
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as if they did the author tour
of our friend Jorge Vallesco to Egypt,
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but they already live on our planet
or live next to the Great Pipe
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No, then they are already installed
here. That' s the idea of
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the paper that I also very interesting
hal puref for those who do not know
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hal purev It was the founder of
the project Stargates, together with Rutzer tark
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In the seventies, in this project
of Remote division, where they were psychics
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to deal exactly with the CIA,
trying to spy on the avietics through Remote
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vision, seeing the United States that
they were doing. And this man has
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another paper of is a few years
of the year two thousand twenty, which
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is called Ultraterrestrial Models, which is
also based on a book I highly recommend
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is from a very little known gentleman
is called mc Famis. Well, he
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actually died, took his own life, and his girlfriend ends up publishing this
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book called the Outer Ones, where
he proposes hypothesis basically of everything we now
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know, how the terrestrial cryptos.
In fact, that book is mentioned in
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this paper that Berna was just showing
us, and it is very interesting to
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note the subject of Dawson' s
spheres in all of this. I think
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Rodrigo brought a key theme there,
because it' s not the only work
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that talks about Dyson' s spheres
that appointed him. For example, there
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are other works that are very interesting
about stars that appear and disappear in the
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universe, a work directed by the
University of Stockholm in Sweden and where they
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detected the disappearance of one hundred and
fifty thousand celestial objects. And the best
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of all is that the only explanation
and it has nothing to do with civilizations
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that the Earth would have formed in
these stars some kind of anomalous black hole
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that swallowed them. It' s
the only way to explain it if you
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don' t have to jump into
extraterrestrial civilizations by building Dyson feras, which
639
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then makes them less visible in the
field, in the astronomical field. Now
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here I go with this to that
if there are several civilizations out there spinning
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around, as Alvin Carro says,
it is very likely that they have found
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us many years ago, that they
have settled here. And I' ll
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throw them one more you know.
What it says I saw Canut say most
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likely is that they' ve been
here so long, that they think they
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own the planet and that when we
started with nuclear anger they were worried about
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what we can do with their property. That is why they began to show
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themselves more assiduously and especially in front
of the military forces of the great powers.
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And one thing you said that I
think it' s mega brutal,
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that I freaked him out and I
didn' t know this. I need
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to see more. The sign that
in mystery is clear is that this Mr
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Kevin canut this scientist, what he
is defending from that that came here three
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hundred thousand years ago beings from another
world and settled under water. He'
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s safe, not people, he' s strong. Uncle I know or
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don' t know that fact on
account, I didn' t know any
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other source. Forgive me. It' s not that I hear it very
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well and I' m going over
there. Excuse me. You know I
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left another source, because I say
I have to talk to someone who'
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s working in the seas as long
as he can tell me there' s
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going to be what data we can
find here. So it wasn' t
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Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet I' ve
been talking to for several months. Tin
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Gallaudet is a retired U S Navy
oceanographer. He continues to work on a
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project to which he can talk to
the U S Navy and is one of
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the most vocal people about the strange
things found in the seas. And he
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asks it straight. I' m
telling you, look at Glaudio in a
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private chat pre- moutorized to comment. You think they may be installed in
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the seas. To be, for
example, a strategist who arrived a long
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time ago and settled in the seas. And he says yes to me.
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It seems to me that this is
the most correct hypothesis of all possible.
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That' s the hypothesis I'
m following, that is to say,
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it' s something that' s
not only part of a scientist at a
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university analyzing the data they' re
finding, but the United States Navy itself,
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because it also told me that they' ve already made observation projects about
673
00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:43.239
it and they' re still doing
it. She is concerned about this because
674
00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:46.559
they encounter objects that move under water
at speeds that are impossible and not from
675
00:58:46.679 --> 00:58:52.559
now on from making escaras. So
there we have the transmedia effect, objects
676
00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:55.239
that can move under the water,
in the air, in space or go
677
00:58:55.320 --> 00:59:00.599
into space and come back under the
water as if nothing technology that we don
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00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:04.239
' t have, but well it
could be talking now. You' re
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00:59:04.280 --> 00:59:07.400
doing what you do. Jorge reminds
me to throw you a data that filtered
680
00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:13.440
me from a very important observatory before
the program, because it seems that it
681
00:59:13.559 --> 00:59:17.920
can also be a headline when seen. I don' t remember you now.
682
00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:20.960
That whole question isn' t what
we' re going to see.
683
00:59:21.440 --> 00:59:23.840
I thought it was so important for
me to hear from this Kevin canut Vale
684
00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:30.280
man. For the following, to
see after the leak of the Pentagon'
685
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:34.800
s reports from December of the year
two thousand seventeen, what is clear is
686
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that the relationship between the OMNI phenomenon
and the seas and the oceans was much
687
00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:44.440
greater than we imagined, because what
the American pilots tell us is that those
688
00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:50.480
lights came out from under the water
and it is even more apparent that they
689
00:59:50.599 --> 00:59:53.880
have a base near the island of
Guadalupe, as it became clear after the
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00:59:54.199 --> 00:59:59.199
incidents of the us that year two
thousand four. If it' s wrong
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00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:02.079
I don' t believe an Alejandro
Bernal who Kevin Canut is for people to
692
01:00:02.079 --> 01:00:07.920
dimension. Juan, professor of physics
at the University of Albany, one of
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01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:13.960
the greatest scientists who, from the
rigor of science, is worth the expression,
694
01:00:14.079 --> 01:00:19.840
has been involved in OMNI research.
He is currently part of the Galileo
695
01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:24.800
project, which is being flagged by
the University of Harbard with exactly avilo juang
696
01:00:24.800 --> 01:00:28.559
Well, master, this gentleman did
not know him. I seem to remember
697
01:00:28.599 --> 01:00:31.400
that I do. Rodrigo Bravo.
What do you think of this Kevin Canut
698
01:00:31.400 --> 01:00:35.800
investigation? I' ve been freaked
out by the data that Fernando Gillebran released
699
01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:42.039
to us. Yeah, it'
s an important fact, but I mean,
700
01:00:42.079 --> 01:00:44.440
it' s not that I think
it' s logical. What happens
701
01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:50.840
is that we understand that three-
quarters of the sea planet is clear.
702
01:00:51.679 --> 01:01:00.920
So, obviously, at the start
of an ophthalmic classification, it is absolutely
703
01:01:01.039 --> 01:01:07.280
plausible that these data, especially from
the seas, are becoming much more transparent
704
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:13.239
today. That is to say,
there is a report that we analyzed in
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01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:16.440
the book Ni from Chile, which
is by Pedro Sarmiento and Gamboa in 1,
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01:01:16.480 --> 01:01:22.360
500 eighty, which is written in
his memoirs by a Spanish navigator who
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01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:24.599
made the crossing by the Magellan stricho, instead of coming from the Atlantic to
708
01:01:24.719 --> 01:01:27.679
the Pacific, did it the other
way around. Since then with being Atlantic
709
01:01:27.719 --> 01:01:32.559
and in one of his navigations,
he sees a red object come out from
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01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:38.320
the water that after coming out of
the water, flies over the water to
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01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:42.119
the island that, in this case, on the island Tierra del Fuego,
712
01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:49.119
climbs a small hill, transforms its
texture from something, circulates to something elongated,
713
01:01:49.800 --> 01:01:53.039
changes color and disappears well, what
is that? To this day we
714
01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:57.440
are still trying to understand what that
is, because, as you point to
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01:01:57.519 --> 01:02:02.800
records of American aviation, what I
know about navigators from all over the planet.
716
01:02:05.559 --> 01:02:09.800
In short, but you can do
the same thing or to that paradigm
717
01:02:09.880 --> 01:02:16.960
shift, to the paradigm shift that
has already been proposed since the fidelgada of
718
01:02:17.000 --> 01:02:25.079
the sixties, with what the revolution
of science means and that it was already
719
01:02:25.079 --> 01:02:36.360
following the same connectivity, by the
same hyperconnection, globalization as a technological phenomenon
720
01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:39.159
is being much more appreciated and understood
by all people. Therefore, it is
721
01:02:39.559 --> 01:02:45.480
already more difficult to keep saved than
perhaps before kept the day. She is
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01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:51.639
much more transparent Now, from information
you have to do, of course,
723
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:55.960
a gearchization, a hierarchy, that
is, with that conceptual historical principle of
724
01:02:57.679 --> 01:03:00.400
seeing the cases that are relevant,
those that have the most contunence in terms
725
01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:05.360
of testimonies, in terms of witnesses, the qualification of the blind, etcetera,
726
01:03:05.760 --> 01:03:10.280
etcetera. To also understand how much
of that, On the one hand,
727
01:03:10.639 --> 01:03:15.639
you can make this famous comparative theory
and you can realize that we are
728
01:03:15.760 --> 01:03:21.960
under the same type of manifestation or
phenomenon or in its effect, you cannot
729
01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:25.079
generalize, but at the same time, these are things that have different origins.
730
01:03:25.119 --> 01:03:28.280
I don' t know if you
understand me. I understand myself,
731
01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:35.440
because we try as much as possible
to give a probable explanation to these manifestations.
732
01:03:36.239 --> 01:03:39.639
But when we do that casuistic analysis
like I pointed out of 1,
733
01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:45.599
500 eighty, there are those from
American aviation and so we can see a
734
01:03:45.599 --> 01:03:50.119
lot of cases. In making this
comparison, we realize the characteristics, that
735
01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:57.159
there is a certain diversity that would
allow us at the same time also to
736
01:03:57.280 --> 01:04:02.280
hypotheize that it cannot necessarily be this
same origin, that is, certain intelligences
737
01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:05.760
are inserted here in the water.
Perfect. It is one of the possibilities,
738
01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:11.000
but there are also others that go
hand in hand with another type of
739
01:04:11.199 --> 01:04:15.880
the same thing that we are talking
about the amount of amount of energy or
740
01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:19.000
quantity of elements that we don'
t even understand that are handled in the
741
01:04:19.679 --> 01:04:24.719
universe and, on the other hand, our ability to understand, understand,
742
01:04:25.360 --> 01:04:30.000
observe and record them. So I
agree with that possibility, I agree with
743
01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:33.960
that hypothesis, but I think that
this is much broader still, that is,
744
01:04:34.199 --> 01:04:39.679
it is an advance, of course, but I would not also focus
745
01:04:39.800 --> 01:04:43.760
100% on that, but that
there I believe that the word transmedia,
746
01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:51.480
at least serves to be able to
encompass or encapsulate these manifestations. But I
747
01:04:51.519 --> 01:04:58.639
insist it gives its texture, given
the records that there are with higher quality
748
01:04:58.639 --> 01:05:02.760
and conditions. This is more complex
for me, because the characteristics of the
749
01:05:02.840 --> 01:05:08.440
phenomenon make it very diverse and that, therefore, can have an absolutely different
750
01:05:08.599 --> 01:05:13.119
origin from each other. Indeed,
that which Rodrigo Bravos has said the key
751
01:05:13.199 --> 01:05:17.679
and is the great problem of the
phenomenon. As you want to explain everything
752
01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:23.119
with a single theory, one and
only hypothesis. One way there' s
753
01:05:23.119 --> 01:05:27.920
no way. That' s why
I thought it was so brilliant about these
754
01:05:28.440 --> 01:05:33.079
Harvard people' s earthly cry,
because it tells us about four possibilities and
755
01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:36.400
that, besides, it' s
not so close. There may have been
756
01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:42.239
several going through the story and the
Keding Canut. I keep doing the wave
757
01:05:42.320 --> 01:05:45.559
with this guy from now on to
my idol, because to say that they
758
01:05:45.800 --> 01:05:48.559
can be under water apart from them, what Rodrigo Bravo says, that maybe
759
01:05:48.599 --> 01:05:51.400
everything can' t be explained like
this, but that a good part does
760
01:05:51.519 --> 01:05:55.719
look like shit to people, I
didn' t want to comment, yes,
761
01:05:55.880 --> 01:05:59.800
Juan, that precisely about what we
were talking about that Vincanut I think
762
01:06:00.119 --> 01:06:03.719
is not only one of the most
privileged scientific minds regarding this type of research,
763
01:06:03.800 --> 01:06:08.400
but, as Fernando Juange said,
this man used a computer simulation to
764
01:06:08.400 --> 01:06:13.039
be able, from the point of
view of a computer tool, to develop
765
01:06:13.159 --> 01:06:20.840
this theory. It' s not
just elucubration. There is a scientific sustenance
766
01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:30.639
around this does not seem tremendous to
me and here we continue in mystery night
767
01:06:30.320 --> 01:06:41.440
today talking about how a small group
of brave scientists are breaking a spear and
768
01:06:41.519 --> 01:06:46.519
clearly backed by science within more prestigious
universities like Harvard, are looking for signs
769
01:06:46.880 --> 01:06:55.280
of intelligent life and not only in
the stars, but this lord as though
770
01:06:55.400 --> 01:07:00.559
they give canut even here on earth, under water, beings from another world
771
01:07:00.639 --> 01:07:05.599
living among us for no more or
less than three hundred thousand years. But
772
01:07:05.719 --> 01:07:09.480
another of the things we had to
get into that program, because it'
773
01:07:09.679 --> 01:07:18.440
s hot news, is that a
Pentagon Defense Department contractor gets obsessed, after
774
01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:23.119
having a om NI sighting of the
year two thousand thirteen, has been investigating
775
01:07:23.199 --> 01:07:30.960
it year with the support of the
Pentagon, all this official information and it
776
01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:38.519
turns out that, moreover, it
would have captured to some extent what the
777
01:07:38.639 --> 01:07:41.079
propulsion system of these ships of another
world is like. Alejandro Bernal, who
778
01:07:41.239 --> 01:07:45.719
spent the 28th of August of the
year two thousand thirteen in Ontario, for
779
01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:50.039
John according to the information published a
few days ago by the British daily Daily
780
01:07:50.079 --> 01:07:55.119
Mail, a research on purpose led
by the ufologist Robert Powell, one of
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01:07:55.199 --> 01:08:00.000
the most important in the world.
That twenty- eight August of two thousand
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01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:03.280
need, at nine and forty at
night, outside Ontario, there was a
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01:08:03.320 --> 01:08:10.519
group of three men who were hunting. It' s a common practice in
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01:08:10.519 --> 01:08:15.279
North America. When one of these
three men, who belonged to the Pentagon
785
01:08:15.560 --> 01:08:24.119
as a contractor, suddenly juangates,
he watches over him an impressive elongated artifact.
786
01:08:24.680 --> 01:08:28.760
According to this man' s testimony, he' d be half the
787
01:08:29.079 --> 01:08:33.239
size of a football field. According
to his predictions, he would be the
788
01:08:33.359 --> 01:08:41.800
next one hundred and seventy feet long
sixty feet wide and twenty feet high and
789
01:08:42.279 --> 01:08:46.239
flew slowly over these three hunters.
It had like a kind of a good
790
01:08:46.439 --> 01:08:50.840
way, to put it in some
gross way, a bar and like two
791
01:08:50.880 --> 01:08:55.600
dishes, one exactly golden here,
a bar, a dish, one side,
792
01:08:55.760 --> 01:09:00.560
a dish and out exactly juange and
another particular detail about this artifact,
793
01:09:00.880 --> 01:09:05.199
not just about the size. It
had a strange glow like indigo blue plasma
794
01:09:05.439 --> 01:09:13.039
very very intense, which surrounded it
according to this witness. Not only was
795
01:09:13.239 --> 01:09:17.359
this brightness strange, this plasma enveloping
it, but according to him and the
796
01:09:17.479 --> 01:09:24.920
other witnesses. It issued a series, a series of lights that were quite
797
01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:29.159
coherent. A very soft, very
diffuse light, similar to a more similar
798
01:09:29.199 --> 01:09:32.359
light, to a laser that this
man used to say to a conventional light
799
01:09:32.359 --> 01:09:36.640
bulb. Turns out this Pentagon contractor
wasn' t meeting two other men who
800
01:09:36.680 --> 01:09:41.520
were in this hunting experience. They
went back to the jef they rented.
801
01:09:42.000 --> 01:09:45.840
He had a hunting rifle with a
target and one of them was carrying a
802
01:09:45.960 --> 01:09:51.640
sony Hd camera. They were watching
this object for seven minutes. The Pentagon
803
01:09:51.760 --> 01:09:57.359
contractor looked at this object with the
eye of his rifle. In fact,
804
01:09:57.600 --> 01:09:59.960
one of the people who was with
him told him at the time that he
805
01:10:00.159 --> 01:10:01.720
would shoot. Clearly, this man
did not say it, did not do
806
01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:05.760
it, simply wanted to see it
in more detail and said something very interesting
807
01:10:06.279 --> 01:10:13.479
John, that he had neither propulsion
mechanisms nor wings, and this was upon
808
01:10:13.479 --> 01:10:17.359
them. Turns out one of these
men grabbed his sony Hd camera and decided
809
01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:25.079
to film or attempt to film this
device and it turns out that Juang basically
810
01:10:25.079 --> 01:10:28.720
didn' t work. It went
out immediately as if a kind of electrostatic
811
01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:34.319
had emerged that prevented this device from
working properly. According to the testimony of
812
01:10:34.359 --> 01:10:41.760
this Pentagon contractor, this huge artifact
began to slowly move away and on the
813
01:10:41.840 --> 01:10:47.399
horizon an artifact of the same size
joined him and suddenly, at an unusual
814
01:10:47.600 --> 01:10:55.520
speed, disappeared in the firmament says
this man that, unfortunately, this video
815
01:10:55.960 --> 01:11:01.880
test did not have the largest house. However, the video was analyzed by
816
01:11:02.119 --> 01:11:06.760
Newhone experts, probably the most important
OMNI research group in the world and the
817
01:11:06.840 --> 01:11:13.720
most trained. Juange and the experts
of the Newfunta, after examining this video
818
01:11:13.800 --> 01:11:17.399
recorded by these men determined that if
you can see it, it is a
819
01:11:17.439 --> 01:11:20.159
video where static white noise is seen. I mean, I don' t
820
01:11:20.319 --> 01:11:26.119
know how to see any more,
but, according to Newphone experts, clearly
821
01:11:26.239 --> 01:11:32.159
a few small pulses that can be
seen in this recording would have a perfect
822
01:11:32.159 --> 01:11:38.000
pulsation function. They have a consistent
pulse, a pulse that' s not
823
01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:42.720
random. Juan who passed it,
passed the images through an exact spectrometer the
824
01:11:42.760 --> 01:11:45.439
spectrometer. What it basically does is
to compose the image into a series of
825
01:11:45.439 --> 01:11:53.399
numerical parameters. So what happens with
this that that filming, although you see
826
01:11:53.479 --> 01:11:56.399
it and say good, because it
is white noise and such if you pass
827
01:11:56.520 --> 01:12:01.560
it through a spectrograph pectometer, sorry, so to see a whole series of
828
01:12:01.640 --> 01:12:09.119
numbers and graphics and so that they
are complete and absolutely abnormal, because what
829
01:12:09.199 --> 01:12:14.680
they are reflecting is that what was
recording was and what was nearby was an
830
01:12:14.760 --> 01:12:23.880
electromagnetic field to brutal absurdity and that
that indigo blue light, that plasma that
831
01:12:24.079 --> 01:12:30.079
would cover the ship was by the
electromagnetic energy so tremendous that it had this
832
01:12:30.279 --> 01:12:35.399
exactly juange cachar. According to this
Pentagon contractor and these New Foune experts who
833
01:12:35.439 --> 01:12:41.920
examined this material and who took care
of this case, this device would require
834
01:12:42.439 --> 01:12:50.199
an energy of one hundred and sixty
million batons that it would be able to
835
01:12:50.279 --> 01:12:56.319
function in this way, according to
the initial calculations, this contractor told the
836
01:12:56.680 --> 01:13:00.640
Department of Defense, Juan Genne,
this Daily Mail article, that clearly because
837
01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:05.000
it belongs to the work it has, because it has seen many artifacts,
838
01:13:05.159 --> 01:13:10.560
many patents, and this was something
that it had never seen in its life
839
01:13:10.640 --> 01:13:14.039
and much less in the year two
thousand thirteen, something absolutely anomalous. He
840
01:13:14.119 --> 01:13:18.399
provided this information to Mr Robert Powell, this great researcher Juange and, as
841
01:13:18.479 --> 01:13:23.680
a specific fact for us to realize
the magnitude and amount of energy this artifact
842
01:13:23.760 --> 01:13:29.840
would need. For example, there
is a nuclear power plant in Fort Colon,
843
01:13:30.359 --> 01:13:33.640
Nebraska, which produces four hundred and
seventy- eight million batiums, that
844
01:13:33.760 --> 01:13:41.359
is, this ship that this Pentagon
contractor observed would need thirty- three percent
845
01:13:41.520 --> 01:13:46.279
of the power of this central nuclear
plant to be able to move Juange and
846
01:13:46.439 --> 01:13:49.640
above all, according to NEOPHONE experts, this video would be the first physical
847
01:13:50.159 --> 01:13:57.840
and tangible proof of how the OMNI
phenomenon can generate electroxta charges that affect apparatuses
848
01:13:58.319 --> 01:14:06.399
and that affect our reality is that
this is key. First, first,
849
01:14:06.680 --> 01:14:14.399
to know how these pots work.
Electromagnetic energy. It' s worth an
850
01:14:14.520 --> 01:14:21.239
electromagnetic energy that somehow has to be
so well connected to Earth' s gravity.
851
01:14:23.079 --> 01:14:25.840
I don' t know how or
how, but that has to be
852
01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:30.119
connected there. And then, because
when an OMNI shows up, you turn
853
01:14:30.159 --> 01:14:32.600
off your car, turn off the
radio, turn off the camera, turn
854
01:14:32.600 --> 01:14:36.520
off. So, the amount of
electromagnetic energy that, around that electrostatic,
855
01:14:38.319 --> 01:14:43.319
I don' t know and there' s no way that absolutely anything works.
856
01:14:43.399 --> 01:14:46.279
So that' s good, this
gentleman took the scare of his life,
857
01:14:46.960 --> 01:14:54.279
but thank you, thanks to that
scare. We know a little bit
858
01:14:54.479 --> 01:14:59.319
more and this seems magnificent to me. Dear friend Fernando gille branc what do
859
01:14:59.439 --> 01:15:03.880
you think of this new case protected
again by the pentagon. I don'
860
01:15:03.920 --> 01:15:09.000
t know if Luis Elizondo is leaking
that kind of thing or where they come
861
01:15:09.000 --> 01:15:13.079
from again, but I think this
investigation is magnificent and it' s been
862
01:15:13.079 --> 01:15:17.039
made public. I find it magnificent, especially because of the idea that goes
863
01:15:17.880 --> 01:15:23.359
to us and already analyzing what we
can find tomorrow with a total declassification,
864
01:15:23.720 --> 01:15:26.640
which is something that I talked to
Speef in bases a couple of months ago
865
01:15:26.720 --> 01:15:32.199
in an interview believe, and it
is this idea of the energy sources that
866
01:15:32.439 --> 01:15:38.960
could be related to the phenomenon.
And this has to do a little bit
867
01:15:39.079 --> 01:15:45.680
also with the idea of cryptoterrestrials,
because everything can be connected to the idea
868
01:15:45.760 --> 01:15:57.199
that these intelligences or are ways of
generating energy that absolutely change our understanding of
869
01:15:57.920 --> 01:16:05.960
what it is basically to establish an
energy self- sufficiency system. I believe
870
01:16:06.039 --> 01:16:12.439
that there is one of the keys, as you were saying, to what
871
01:16:12.439 --> 01:16:15.640
can happen and a little bit of
the paradigm changes to what Rodrigo was pointing
872
01:16:15.720 --> 01:16:24.119
at. It gives me the impression
that, by deepening this, by having
873
01:16:24.279 --> 01:16:30.000
more and more data, this object
is launching thirty- three percent of the
874
01:16:30.079 --> 01:16:36.239
energy production of a nuclear- centered
one into a pulse. He talks to
875
01:16:36.319 --> 01:16:42.600
us about two things. First,
that none of the enormous energy production,
876
01:16:43.119 --> 01:16:46.680
but I think I say it also
escapes us because talking to engineers about these
877
01:16:46.760 --> 01:16:51.520
issues, the first thing that jumps
to the table is the issue of energy
878
01:16:51.680 --> 01:16:58.640
efficiency, and energy efficiency is perhaps
one of the biggest problems we have.
879
01:17:00.119 --> 01:17:05.159
Every time we touch a wire in
our homes or a machine that is electric,
880
01:17:05.960 --> 01:17:11.560
that raises temperature, that we feel
that it is warm, for example,
881
01:17:11.800 --> 01:17:15.399
if we are going to grind coffee
the grinder, if it is electric,
882
01:17:15.640 --> 01:17:21.600
we touch it, if it is
a little heated, that warms that
883
01:17:23.119 --> 01:17:28.479
wasted energy, that transforms and is
released in the mode of heat. One
884
01:17:28.479 --> 01:17:32.479
of the great problems we have as
a civilization and at the engineering level is
885
01:17:32.600 --> 01:17:39.720
energy efficiency. It is to make
the best possible use of energy. And
886
01:17:40.039 --> 01:17:45.279
if we could take advantage of 100% of the energy we produce and our
887
01:17:45.319 --> 01:17:50.319
devices, our technology would be much
more efficient so that we wouldn' t
888
01:17:50.319 --> 01:17:54.159
be wasting it. We' d
even have less trouble than we have.
889
01:17:54.239 --> 01:17:59.960
But imagine if we can suddenly have
access to any of the energy production systems
890
01:18:00.079 --> 01:18:03.199
of these devices that, apparently in
efficiency, are doing very well, because
891
01:18:03.319 --> 01:18:09.640
if they would not disintegrate by heat, because if they would not have too
892
01:18:09.800 --> 01:18:14.119
serious problems. Imagine if we could
get our hands on any of this would
893
01:18:14.279 --> 01:18:20.920
be a resounding change due virtually all
over the planet, which would also be
894
01:18:20.960 --> 01:18:26.600
the end of a huge energy business
for many. Speaking of fossil fuels,
895
01:18:27.079 --> 01:18:32.479
talking about different types of energy storage. That is why the issue of total
896
01:18:32.680 --> 01:18:39.119
declassification. That is why it is
the idea that some governments already have in
897
01:18:39.399 --> 01:18:44.560
their possession the remains of these devices
and that they have tried to reverse engineering
898
01:18:44.640 --> 01:18:48.319
or that they are in fact working
with devices developed on the basis of reverse
899
01:18:48.319 --> 01:18:53.199
engineering. Well, it gives us
the pattern that if that' s really
900
01:18:53.239 --> 01:18:59.039
what' s coming in the future, it' s now. But also
901
01:18:59.680 --> 01:19:04.199
this totally unknown, because we have
no idea how it can happen. So
902
01:19:04.319 --> 01:19:15.000
to round off Colonel Carneil was presenting
himself at the Soult Conference in New York
903
01:19:15.159 --> 01:19:24.800
a month ago. And this conference
is a conference exclusively for top- notch
904
01:19:24.960 --> 01:19:30.720
investors from all over the planet,
financial brokers, economists, everyone, the
905
01:19:30.800 --> 01:19:35.560
economy and finance was there. Three
conferences have been held for years in New
906
01:19:35.640 --> 01:19:42.159
York, another in Asia and the
other in the Arab oil countries. And
907
01:19:42.279 --> 01:19:47.239
the coma is that Carneyll worked with
David Grash at UAPTS. He showed up
908
01:19:47.319 --> 01:19:53.359
and said the non- human intelligences
are here with us. I have no
909
01:19:53.600 --> 01:19:57.840
doubt. They' re already here
and this is something we need to understand
910
01:19:58.119 --> 01:20:02.039
and begin to connect to our business
systems, because where all this information is
911
01:20:02.039 --> 01:20:06.199
released, the first thing you'
re going to suggest, which is the
912
01:20:06.800 --> 01:20:12.199
environment, the energy environment. So
attention a lot. Look at that See
913
01:20:12.239 --> 01:20:14.439
what I' m saying. Fernando
hir de Bland. It is very key,
914
01:20:15.520 --> 01:20:20.960
because this case is not only a
case that I would have recorded that
915
01:20:21.079 --> 01:20:26.319
I had left a physical sample of
what the omnis propulsion system is like?
916
01:20:27.640 --> 01:20:30.840
It is that if the issue of
propulsion of the Somnis, if anyone ever
917
01:20:30.960 --> 01:20:34.479
dominates it, can copy it or
we understand it, that will give a
918
01:20:34.560 --> 01:20:40.479
brutal amount of silver, which is
what I believe is also behind a good
919
01:20:40.920 --> 01:20:45.319
clear part of the som investigations nor
the Pentagoni. To see that in New
920
01:20:45.560 --> 01:20:50.680
York Times came Mr Ester, physicist
Eric W. David, saying he was
921
01:20:50.720 --> 01:20:54.520
analyzing the remains of ships from another
world that I don' t say.
922
01:20:54.560 --> 01:20:58.159
I said it New York Time and
commented on it Mr This I repeat Eric
923
01:20:58.159 --> 01:21:03.520
W. Davis, a Pentagon contractor, and this would explain the tremendous,
924
01:21:05.079 --> 01:21:15.760
tremendous military secrecy that we have and, in addition, in that wonderful marriage
925
01:21:15.840 --> 01:21:24.159
that certain private corporations like Bigelow Aeroespece
have in the United States with this type
926
01:21:24.439 --> 01:21:30.880
of research projects of the phenomenon m
and this one at the end of Plata
927
01:21:30.880 --> 01:21:35.479
Rodrigo Bravo. What do you think
of both the Ontario case and these implications,
928
01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:39.479
because in the end it is a
moment of implications in which the military
929
01:21:39.760 --> 01:21:44.239
is and the business is. Yes, it strikes me, first of all
930
01:21:44.680 --> 01:21:48.239
that I' m glad Buffon is
still working, because there was a time
931
01:21:48.319 --> 01:21:53.880
that was very silent and inside the
files, this case is, his number
932
01:21:53.880 --> 01:21:56.960
sixty- four thousand two hundred and
eighty- two, and that' s
933
01:21:56.960 --> 01:22:01.319
no less. Wow. On the
other hand, this case promptly attracts attention
934
01:22:01.720 --> 01:22:05.439
concepts such as plasma that there project
to ask Fernando to see if good.
935
01:22:06.119 --> 01:22:10.119
In fact, it will move us
this weekend in a foological meeting that there
936
01:22:10.119 --> 01:22:15.199
is in the serene in Chile,
by virtue of the museum, the first
937
01:22:15.239 --> 01:22:20.479
museum of the UFO, that was
created here and well, what happened with
938
01:22:20.640 --> 01:22:25.439
that publication project that spoke of plasma
and that, in a way, we
939
01:22:25.479 --> 01:22:30.359
solved fifty percent of the cases that
we had there with as unidentified, because
940
01:22:30.520 --> 01:22:36.880
here they need plasma, they speak
of harmonic resonance, they speak of energy
941
01:22:36.960 --> 01:22:44.600
disturbance and there as you point out
we go to electronic war. There is
942
01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:48.920
a book written by a fellow countryman, yours Daniel Varcárcel, which is very
943
01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:54.840
interesting, which is called intelligence and
electronic warfare, the secret battle of the
944
01:22:55.520 --> 01:22:58.880
magicians, if I am not mistaken, and which describes what electronic war of
945
01:22:59.000 --> 01:23:04.319
defense means, but which in this
type of phenomena, anomalies or manifestations has
946
01:23:04.399 --> 01:23:10.199
been reflected in not many, but
in almost every opportunity, with disturbances,
947
01:23:10.560 --> 01:23:15.680
with blockades, with all that we
have tried to do from a military point
948
01:23:15.760 --> 01:23:24.840
of view to dominate the electromagnetic spectrum. These things seem to be handled or
949
01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:29.680
moved at that level of frequencies,
because they block everything, and not just
950
01:23:29.760 --> 01:23:32.840
block, but, by doing a
little review and a wink at paroufology,
951
01:23:32.960 --> 01:23:39.119
they also cause effects in one other
way, the witnesses, perhaps by those
952
01:23:39.239 --> 01:23:43.840
same electromagnetic waves you will know what
is the disturbance that is generated, because
953
01:23:43.840 --> 01:23:47.920
yes or yes. There are certain
situations that are, on the one hand,
954
01:23:48.119 --> 01:23:54.359
absurd or disconnected, but, on
the other hand, they are shaped
955
01:23:54.439 --> 01:23:58.520
and those disturbances go hand in hand
with this kind of wave missions. Then
956
01:23:59.239 --> 01:24:02.039
it strikes me, because there are
a lot of cases that have similar characteristics.
957
01:24:02.079 --> 01:24:05.760
There is one that immediately came to
mind that was famous, the famous
958
01:24:05.760 --> 01:24:14.359
Ovnil of Bien Watters at the base
in Rundelton Forrest, in December of one
959
01:24:14.479 --> 01:24:17.479
thousand nine hundred and eighty, where
you started this program, making known that
960
01:24:17.560 --> 01:24:24.680
there was in certain a sort of
binary code of itself ball stick ball,
961
01:24:25.159 --> 01:24:29.159
yes, well, one of the
main witnesses of that case Sergeant Major Jim
962
01:24:29.319 --> 01:24:33.800
Penningston, here on the opportunity to
meet in person in the United States,
963
01:24:34.159 --> 01:24:39.279
in the two thousand and seven the
famous Washington Conference. He in his book
964
01:24:39.439 --> 01:24:44.520
In Country in Brundelston Forrett. There
are six pages that are dedicated to taking
965
01:24:44.600 --> 01:24:49.039
out the pictures of his notebook,
where he simply wrote down these codes that
966
01:24:49.399 --> 01:24:55.760
came to his mind after going to
touch the apparatus that was in front of
967
01:24:56.520 --> 01:25:00.399
this whole group of special forces that
surrounded him. Rodrigo I' m sorry
968
01:25:00.479 --> 01:25:03.760
I didn' t know that.
One of the witnesses of rendeng Hand Forrest
969
01:25:03.920 --> 01:25:09.600
Forgive me my English is pathetic,
I know, one of the witnesses of
970
01:25:09.640 --> 01:25:13.640
this very important British case, says
that in his mind he began to pick
971
01:25:13.840 --> 01:25:17.319
up a code and put it in
a notebook, of course. Of course,
972
01:25:17.319 --> 01:25:19.960
and there are six pages of an
appendix to your book. That book
973
01:25:20.079 --> 01:25:26.039
was written with the other witness,
who is John Burregots and Jim Forgiveness,
974
01:25:26.079 --> 01:25:30.960
and with Nick Pop, who was
like the articulator and compiler, and in
975
01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:35.640
his book that in the two thousand
fourteen there are six pages where the binary
976
01:25:35.760 --> 01:25:41.359
code is, the message binary code, which are several pages of his notebook,
977
01:25:41.840 --> 01:25:45.680
because he not only wrote down the
symbols that he was able to perceive.
978
01:25:45.720 --> 01:25:48.119
In this because we understand that a
group of special forces went to surround
979
01:25:48.239 --> 01:25:53.720
something that was introduced within this military
camp. That' s it, a
980
01:25:53.840 --> 01:25:59.199
thousand nine hundred and eighty Cold Wars. There is a strong movement on the
981
01:25:59.279 --> 01:26:02.439
part of such a thing gets involved
and, obviously, everyone thought it was
982
01:26:02.920 --> 01:26:06.039
some apparatus of the Soviet Union.
Then they surround him and realize that he
983
01:26:06.079 --> 01:26:10.600
actually had as much shape as certain
lights that didn' t go or go,
984
01:26:10.920 --> 01:26:16.079
no, no, they weren'
t, let' s say,
985
01:26:16.119 --> 01:26:20.479
you know, you know, for
that one, and this guy, when
986
01:26:20.520 --> 01:26:26.359
he realizes that it sounds completely,
doesn' t let him run out of
987
01:26:27.159 --> 01:26:29.840
his rifle and part and comes and
touches this question and when he touches it
988
01:26:29.840 --> 01:26:30.279
he realizes that it was like a
smooth, metallic and hot material. He
989
01:26:30.359 --> 01:26:34.760
says that like an iron, an
ironing plate of hot clothes and next to
990
01:26:35.560 --> 01:26:40.399
where he put his hand there was
a series of symbols that he wrote down
991
01:26:40.520 --> 01:26:46.039
in his notebook. But when he
comes back, he has in this immediate
992
01:26:46.199 --> 01:26:51.800
memory a series of binary code,
which are six pages that are in his
993
01:26:51.920 --> 01:26:56.279
little notebook and that he takes the
photograph out of his notebook, which for
994
01:26:56.359 --> 01:27:00.840
him is like the most important material, because well, it would have been
995
01:27:00.840 --> 01:27:04.000
a perfect idea of him. But
it turns out that the next day it
996
01:27:04.079 --> 01:27:10.800
was even Colonel Charthart who only saw
this efficient and that when they were the
997
01:27:10.880 --> 01:27:16.159
next day, on the spot,
seeing that there were also electromagnetic disturbances that
998
01:27:16.319 --> 01:27:20.119
even today there is a collective demand
from these witnesses, because they were subjected
999
01:27:20.720 --> 01:27:25.840
to radiation and the army is,
that is, the force of the United
1000
01:27:25.920 --> 01:27:30.760
States denied them that possibility. As
a result, some died of cancer from
1001
01:27:30.880 --> 01:27:33.520
this observation. Yes, sir,
and these were bad. Even one was
1002
01:27:33.560 --> 01:27:39.119
abducted and was fatally healthy. We
had lost time certine. I don'
1003
01:27:39.159 --> 01:27:41.920
t remember the guy' s name, I mean, if that story'
1004
01:27:41.920 --> 01:27:44.680
s a look. One day we
do a program on that case, because
1005
01:27:44.760 --> 01:27:46.960
it' s very accurate. And
there, besides everything, the next day,
1006
01:27:47.279 --> 01:27:53.560
when they were there were electromagnetic disturbance
and movement, very similar impulses,
1007
01:27:53.720 --> 01:27:57.840
to which we just pointed out from
the year two thousand thirteen. So,
1008
01:27:58.760 --> 01:28:03.560
if you start to do this as
a comparative theory. We realize that there
1009
01:28:03.640 --> 01:28:10.159
are certain patterns that are repeated and
that clearly help us not. I think
1010
01:28:10.159 --> 01:28:15.640
they make us worse. But as
we draw key pieces from these reports,
1011
01:28:15.119 --> 01:28:19.479
we realize that there are features that
are very similar and one of those is
1012
01:28:19.800 --> 01:28:26.680
precisely this kind of arbonic resonance or
electromagnetic pulsation, which are, on the
1013
01:28:26.800 --> 01:28:30.119
one hand, disturbing and, on
the other hand, cause side effects on
1014
01:28:30.199 --> 01:28:34.439
people. It is a topic that
is tremendous and the story of that British
1015
01:28:34.520 --> 01:28:42.520
military base that are also up to
the recordings of them when they are following
1016
01:28:43.239 --> 01:28:45.760
a light that are getting into military
installation lists, there is one that has
1017
01:28:45.840 --> 01:28:50.359
a sense of time lost as if
time had also stopped and it had been
1018
01:28:50.399 --> 01:28:56.720
x times adduced. It' s
crazy. I didn' t know that
1019
01:28:56.840 --> 01:28:59.960
data Rodrigo told us that the guy
when he puts his hand, they start
1020
01:29:00.279 --> 01:29:03.039
going a binary code to the head
and some symbols. And so I'
1021
01:29:03.079 --> 01:29:06.520
d like to see the symbols,
because if they have to do with the
1022
01:29:06.520 --> 01:29:10.479
Te case, I' m going
to send the photos and I' m
1023
01:29:10.560 --> 01:29:14.000
going to talk confecting when I'
m going to go to Chile, because
1024
01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:15.199
I have the contact and we can
talk. I hope you can interview Jin
1025
01:29:15.239 --> 01:29:18.680
Penninstone to deepen this topic. Not
very good. I' m gonna pass
1026
01:29:18.720 --> 01:29:23.199
you the billiards case. I don' t think I' ve ever given
1027
01:29:23.239 --> 01:29:27.479
you everything that the stone symbols appeared
and so remind me this week by Whatsapp
1028
01:29:27.560 --> 01:29:32.560
and I' ll pass it to
you and the symbols and so that it
1029
01:29:33.600 --> 01:29:41.319
' s crazy and clear, all
this leaves a series of electromagnetic brand and
1030
01:29:41.399 --> 01:29:45.319
see in white and bottle. In
other words, they are several key cases
1031
01:29:45.359 --> 01:29:47.960
that have been investigated in depth so
take and when there are the military,
1032
01:29:48.199 --> 01:29:53.199
it is an advantage because they have
a much greater investigative capacity than that of
1033
01:29:53.199 --> 01:30:02.399
a foot folog and they make it
clear to us that this propulsion system effectively
1034
01:30:02.600 --> 01:30:09.399
prevents mechanical objects from working. Such
can disturb our health. How many cases
1035
01:30:09.479 --> 01:30:11.800
there are of people who have been
close to one. I have finished badly
1036
01:30:12.319 --> 01:30:15.039
look what happened here in Colombia,
in the sixty- nine arts and io
1037
01:30:15.039 --> 01:30:20.119
bel Múdez, for being close to
an identified flying object. And this is
1038
01:30:20.239 --> 01:30:26.920
data that push us forward and I
think it' s something magnificent. My
1039
01:30:27.000 --> 01:30:30.880
friend Fernando gir de ben has to
comment on this that Rodrigo Bravoca has told
1040
01:30:30.880 --> 01:30:33.199
us. You know, when you
guys talk, you give me a tip
1041
01:30:33.279 --> 01:30:40.960
that you leave me in shoc I
didn' t know that part of this
1042
01:30:40.960 --> 01:30:44.680
case and it left me in shock. What do you think, buddy look
1043
01:30:44.720 --> 01:30:48.800
what is telling us is that what
is telling us, Rodrigigo Vos takes me
1044
01:30:49.079 --> 01:30:56.159
to the beginning of the program also
because it is super interesting how things are
1045
01:30:56.199 --> 01:30:59.760
connecting and going ivanando with what happens
today. In fact, Rodrigo, yes,
1046
01:30:59.840 --> 01:31:04.079
let' s absolutely try to do
an interview there, because I would
1047
01:31:04.079 --> 01:31:11.159
be delighted. You know this idea
of the zero stick stick that you also
1048
01:31:11.239 --> 01:31:16.640
described at the beginning of this broadcast, that you could talk to JS who
1049
01:31:16.680 --> 01:31:26.119
later found it in this language of
Antiquity. Yeah, but one thing to
1050
01:31:26.119 --> 01:31:29.920
swallow my idea of doing. When
I take out the three words that are
1051
01:31:29.960 --> 01:31:35.119
in the stone, I put the
inscription to rashirras admed of the Foundation in
1052
01:31:35.239 --> 01:31:40.680
the Arabs and tell him this is
a sentence in the final you tell me
1053
01:31:40.680 --> 01:31:45.359
yes, sure and that is why
you put me in contact with the Adu
1054
01:31:45.439 --> 01:31:47.840
caran in order to be able to
translate it. But I was with a
1055
01:31:48.039 --> 01:31:56.520
professor of history at the University of
Usdah and I did the same thing and
1056
01:31:56.640 --> 01:32:00.640
he told me the same thing.
It was a trick that you can'
1057
01:32:00.720 --> 01:32:04.239
t make up a handwriting. You
understand that I spent it, for example,
1058
01:32:04.479 --> 01:32:10.279
I passed it through two historians,
that is, without them ever assuming
1059
01:32:10.359 --> 01:32:14.720
the source. Whatever it was,
it' s just one thing that'
1060
01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:17.920
s why I got so caught up
in the desert it' s waved so
1061
01:32:18.760 --> 01:32:23.119
many times in the desert and all
those pods, no, but it'
1062
01:32:23.119 --> 01:32:25.560
s just crazy. So when I
give the data Rodrigo Bravo, I say
1063
01:32:25.640 --> 01:32:29.279
milk pass me the information in case
they match anything. No. I don
1064
01:32:29.399 --> 01:32:30.800
' t know out of curiosity,
I' m sorry Fernando I cut you
1065
01:32:30.800 --> 01:32:34.520
off all the time. No,
not because of this, because in reality
1066
01:32:34.600 --> 01:32:43.239
this is what we are passionate about
finding these kinds of relationships that are not
1067
01:32:43.399 --> 01:32:47.600
necessarily always at first sight, but
are only sometimes found even in a form
1068
01:32:47.720 --> 01:32:53.840
of fortune. Yes, you.
You imagined that if we suddenly ask this
1069
01:32:53.920 --> 01:32:58.319
man what he saw in this binary
code sop, what is it that he
1070
01:32:58.359 --> 01:33:05.319
perceived and half looks for a stick
zero stick even clear far, which adds
1071
01:33:05.319 --> 01:33:11.880
even more to the idea of cryptoterrestrials, because we are talking about a writing
1072
01:33:12.000 --> 01:33:15.720
that is thousands of years old and
that Paris at a close encounter in the
1073
01:33:16.279 --> 01:33:25.239
nineties in Europe and AparÃs at another
close encounter in the eighties. I think
1074
01:33:25.359 --> 01:33:30.000
it was also in a country that
also appears in South America. And another
1075
01:33:30.119 --> 01:33:32.680
thing to see, Juan Joventez and
I, well, all day long we
1076
01:33:32.720 --> 01:33:35.840
do a show and I invite you
both and well, in this case you
1077
01:33:35.880 --> 01:33:42.119
interview me away from me you interview
me and I tell the stories. It
1078
01:33:42.319 --> 01:33:45.800
all comes from that when j jota
de Benitez and I sit with this gentleman
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I repeat Rashirras Admes of the Arab
Euro Foundation, when we begin to ask
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him about the writing and so we
say hear him. There is a place
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in Algeria, which is the Tasili, where there appear some ungrateful beings and
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there as if they were aliens in
a place called Jabar, in the valley
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of the giants, in tama Check, there is writing. He tells me
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yes clear as much as you want, because what was invented there. I
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was like what and then I signed
to Silly and I saw it already and
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I filmed it clear in Javar,
in the valley of the giants, where
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all the aliens are. And just
in that area, in the Tasilis,
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there' s writing, writing that
hasn' t translated a lot of caravan
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inscriptions, it hasn' t translated
a damn thing that I' ve been
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there exactly. It' s not
like they' re telling me, that
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means the professional crazy guy forgives faith
Just tell him it' s crazy because
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I' m gonna throw you away
now. I' m gonna throw something
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at you now to keep you awake
all morning. You don' t think
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so, no, you don'
t like what I love. You love
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this kind of thing I love it. I love it. Now we are
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going to get back into the realm
of science, because we were talking about
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change, about paradise, about scientists, about these men and women who break
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up with the cage of thought and
suddenly encourage those questions. Turns out you
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' re talking a lot to Garry
Noland, who' s a pathologist at
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Stanford University, was the Nobel Prize
candidate. He wasn' t given to
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01:35:26.520 --> 01:35:32.439
talk about aliens. It is one
of the types that is one of the
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members of the Foundation only one of
the founders of the Fundación Sol Nada.
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01:35:38.800 --> 01:35:45.000
He' s really a genius.
Turns out you' re a pathologist and
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he' s been developing for many
years. There was a study for the
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intelligence and defense services of the United
States, but he reviewed, in fact,
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with another doctor Kift Green. The
point is this, that' s
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01:35:57.319 --> 01:36:00.359
the big question. There' s
a DNA print to look for. It
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turns out that talking a lot with
Garry Nolan one afternoon, speaking for Whatsapp
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01:36:08.159 --> 01:36:11.279
before an interview, I say good, because it' s very interesting the
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work he' s doing with the
experimenters. They are the ones who take
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01:36:14.199 --> 01:36:17.720
out this study in which we begin
to talk about experimenters and sequels, which
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leaves the phenomenon about people who have
been very close, for example, who
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mature in the skin, neurological lesions, tinnitus or ringing in the ears,
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01:36:29.920 --> 01:36:34.159
etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, problems in the eyes,
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dental programs, a lot of questions. They take out this leaking paper,
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01:36:40.039 --> 01:36:44.199
which has to go to a secret
Pentagon commission and also the Senate to also
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01:36:44.359 --> 01:36:50.000
evaluate the possibility of reviewing reverse engineering, understanding what the systems of proportion would
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01:36:50.039 --> 01:36:58.439
be from the physical sequelae in humans. Well, he does this study,
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01:36:58.840 --> 01:37:02.039
shares this information, but he'
s left with a discovery, so it
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01:37:02.079 --> 01:37:08.279
' s very interesting, because he
works with a group of U S Navy
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01:37:08.359 --> 01:37:14.920
and Air Force pilots and also remote
dividers attention with this. He works with
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01:37:15.039 --> 01:37:19.319
both remote viewers and pilots and he
finds himself doing these studies. This is
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01:37:19.399 --> 01:37:23.000
much longer. I' m going
to be super summary. Dale, Dale,
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01:37:23.119 --> 01:37:31.960
what' s in the experimenters is
a different brain configuration than the brain
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configuration of the rest of humanity.
Too bad we' ve reached the end
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01:37:34.600 --> 01:37:40.560
of the program. They' re
warning me, Garryon Lan A whole genius
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01:37:40.560 --> 01:37:44.760
and infiltrators. We would one day
have to make a program other than that
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01:37:44.800 --> 01:37:47.399
possibility that there are beings from another
world who are infiltrated into our society.
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01:37:47.800 --> 01:37:53.600
We reach the end of the program
and have thirty seconds each to give the
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conclusion, the closure and your social
networks. Rodrigo bravo, my friend,
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you have thirty seconds to close.
Very funny. Thank you for the invitation,
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as always a very interesting degree,
always at your disposal. My twitter
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or x rice, Bufon, Instagram, ego yon under Buffon a hug.
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Thank you so much 30 Thank you
very much for the invitation. Arm Turn
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01:38:23.439 --> 01:38:29.880
find me simply put the signal on
YouTube and it will look like channel and
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01:38:29.960 --> 01:38:33.039
if not, throw Science and Mystery
also on YouTube and they will find my
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01:38:33.119 --> 01:38:36.079
channel and if not, they can
also find it on Instagram, where we
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01:38:36.079 --> 01:38:39.000
are quite active. Thank you,
thank you for the invitation. It'
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01:38:39.039 --> 01:38:41.960
s always a pleasure to be with
you friends. Thank you very much,
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friends. We highly recommend that YouTube
channel, the Signal Science and Mystery Juan
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01:38:45.840 --> 01:38:50.720
one of the programs where we have
had the most news and current in the
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01:38:50.800 --> 01:38:55.840
Omni phenomenon privileged to be part of
this panel and can follow me on Instagram
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01:38:55.880 --> 01:39:00.560
in arroba abernal Press. We'
re not alone. The phenomenon is not
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01:39:00.680 --> 01:39:03.760
much more complex. He looks at
us not only from the stars, from
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01:39:03.880 --> 01:39:09.560
under the water, or perhaps from
his neighbor' s balcony. And never,
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never forget that we live in a
magical world, because it is full of mystery




