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0:07 Hey, everybody, how' s it going there? My name is Juan Jesús Vallejos and journalist, writer and director of the Mystery Night program on Caracol Radio see death not as an end, but as a beginning. This is seen by different religions that open up the possibility of reincarnation. Also different researchers, such as the American psychiatrist Ian Stevenson, who investigated different cases of reincarnation around the world. One of the most spectacular cases of the 20th century is the one that happened to the British Dorothy Iri This since she was a child, had dream with ancient Egypt, specifically with a place full of columns where there was a garden full of fruit trees. Years later, when he was a teenager and saw for the first time in his life. A photograph of the temple of Avidos. She realized that her dreams reached that place. Decades later, Dorothi Iri was able to go to Egypt, lived there and worked as an archeologist and dedicated the last years of his life to rebuilding the temple of Avidos. She could even discover the fruit garden that she saw in her dream a story to make us rethink what life is and what death is.

1:40 But if you want to know about this and much more, don' t miss the last mystery night podcast on Caracol Radio Stories the afternight and mystery Juan Jesús Vallejo. Death is not the end. It' s just a fresh start. Many of you may not believe me, but I' d like you to pay attention for a few minutes to this whole story, Great Britain.

2:30 In a thousand nine hundred and four. There was born a girl named Dorothy lovis Iri, and she was a normal girl, with a total and absolutely normal existence, until three years later, three years old, fell down the stairs of her house. He hit his head so hard he died. She was dead for almost an hour. Moreover, the doctor arrived and as he arrived at the house, he signed even the death part. However, a few minutes later Dorothy got up and was even playing in a normal way.

3:29 Neither the doctor nor his parents attested to what they saw. But that just happened. What the girl said was that someone came from the past and rescued her. The parents were shocked by this phrase, but they did not want to give it more importance. The fact is that the girl, the following year, four years old, told her parents that she saw that she was in a building surrounded by columns and in that building, right next to a garden in which there were fruit trees. The parents also did not attach greater importance to Dorothy' s dream. The fact is that within a few years she was taken to the British Museum and when Dorothy entered the room of Egyptology, the girl went mad, went for the statues and began kissing their feet. The parents were shocked by the child' s behavior and when they grabbed her in the face of the abnormal behavior the child was presenting she told them dads, Egypt is my home. A few years later, in a

5:00 local newspaper, she saw a photo of the temple of Avidos, the temple consecrated to the god Osiris and told her parents that this was the place she had seen in her dreams. The parents were still not out of their astonishment. At the age of fourteen, Dorothy began working directly with the curator of the British Museum, who carried the entire part of giptology. He started studying Egyptology and learned so quickly that no one could explain it. He began translating Egyptian hieroglyphics and I assure you that he is in Egypt many times that is not easy. Also at that age at fourteen. Dorothia claimed that in a dream a man in a white robe and a blue cape appeared to him, and that that man spoke to him saying that he was Pharaoh Seth first.

6:15 And here begins the most curious thing. When the nights of the full moon arrived, Dorothi went into a trance and began to write his hand. He moved alone and took notes, what is known as automatic writing, something that the spiritists do. But Dorothy didn' t have any training. Well, there a character from ancient Egypt, a priest named Orre, told her that she was the reincarnation of an Egyptian priestess named Betre Sith, the daughter of an Egyptian military man, and her mother was a modest fruit seller. Her father had worked for Setti first and she herself, as Priestess, was a lover of Setti first. For now the science fiction novel appeared, but not all completely and absolutely real with proven facts. When she was 27, she started working for an Egyptian PR magazine. He started publishing articles. He met an Egyptian ab the Mehit, and married him. Shortly afterwards he went to live in the city of Cairo. With him he had a son and that

7:48 son he called Sethy. That is why, from that moment on, in Egypt they began to call her om Setty, who Arabic means Setti' s mother. He continued to work in Egypt. He got work at the Museum, in the Department of Antiquities began to write documents for different archaeologists and something very curious, began to make embroidery of what life was like in ancient Egypt, with such vibrancy and with so many details that those embroidery today are at the Brooklyn Museum in New York. He lived twenty years in Memphis, working as an archeologist in Giza and Dashur, in what is the main area of the fourth Dynasty. He was not avid until a thousand nine hundred and fifty - two. When he became avid, he was so shocked that that night he entered the temple and began to burn incense and pray in ancient Egyptian to old gods that for millennia no one prayed to them. In a thousand nine hundred and fifty- six it was sent there definitively to preserve the temple of

9:24 Avidos, the temple of Setti. First, what happens is that the temple was really wrong, it was very shattered and there were more than 2, 000 stone blocks with inscriptions scattered around the temple throughout its life. What she did was sort those blocks and translate the inscriptions of them, with which she learned prayers to communicate with the god Osiris, the god of the dead, the god who opens the doors in the sea there and again, when the nights of the full moon arrived, while she lived very close to the temple of Avidos, again began to write and began to write all the things that Setti told it. First, from the afterlife his former lover in Egypt appeared to him many times in dreams as well. And it is very curious because Setti first told him in dreams that the whole history of Atlantis was real, that the Mediterranean, in a previous time was a great, a great plain, a great dry place, which is true geologically, and that one day suddenly flooded and that ended Atlantis. According to Setty' s first dream testimony,

11:01 what would remain of Atlantis is the Greek islands of the Aegean Sea. And what is more this Mrs Dorothi was so curious that Assetti asked her if there was life on other worlds and Setti first told her that yes, even that there were human beings on other worlds, describing to her what was the life of human beings on other worlds? Inside metal houses with large windows. In addition to this, Dorothi, the nights of ancient Egyptian feasts, such as the birthday of the goddess Isis, which is the fifteenth of June, went to the temple at night to make ancient spells, speaking in the language spoken by the ancient pharaohs, and thus spent her life in a very humble house, near the temple of avids, a dovehouse in which she lived alone, because she divorced with cats, a donkey and an oca. Before he died in a thousand nine hundred and eighty- one, even the BBC made a documentary of his life. He began to have a certain world fame, especially because, as an archeologist, he was a brilliant person. One of the curious things that happened to her is that she discovered right next to the

12:33 temple of Setti and first of the temple of Avidos, the garden she saw of Girl in Dreams. When he died, he ordered that his tomb be looking west toward the Kingdom of Osiris. The God who receives the living at the gates of the afterlife is curious, because he could not be buried in a Muslim cemetery or a Christian. For everyone, Dorothi was a heretic, because the religion that followed, which had disappeared almost two thousand years ago, was that of the ancient Egyptians, just as she dreamed of Niña, and so she made her life. To this day, Dorothy, better known to Omsetti, is a legend, a real legend. Any Egyptologist who asks you in Egypt knows Omsetti' s story perfectly and will tell you that he has no explanation, but that this woman became a legend and that, as an Egyptologist, she was one of the best of her time. Zai Jaguas himself, the best Egyptologist in the world, minister who was Egyptian Antiquities Minister, has said so, one of the best archaeologists in history and a woman who,

14:03 by her talent and her life, became legend. By making us understand that the present is but a reminiscence of the past, that everything we do we have an echo in eternity and that if we love magic and mystery, we will be the protagonist of them. My name is Juan Jesús Vallejo. What you want to follow me on social media. My twitter is Arroba Juang Vallejo, Juan j E Vallejo, on Instagram, on Facebook Juan Jesús Vallejo and This is another mystery night show and here what we do is mystery journalism.

14:46 We put the facts on the table and you decide what is behind it and not what you think of the story of om Setti, the woman named Dorothy Lowis Iri and who, according to her dreams, was an ancient Egyptian sazordotisa who was called Betre Sith. The truth is that I have gone the Temple many times in my life and that this year will go again. I assure you that there, in Avidos, everyone knows its history and bows when the name of this lady is mentioned, who was the great conservative and reconstructionist of the Temple of Avidos, and I repeat, a woman who with her life wrote a legend. You know I' m doing an author' s trip and I' ve made the introduction to Egypt. Well, well, you know that the second fortnight of this month of September of this two thousand twenty- four I am going to take a trip to Egypt, to the land of the Pharaohs, to navigate the magic thread, to fascinate them with the mystery of the Pyramids. And we will, of course, go to the temple of Avidos, the temple of Osiris, the temple where the doors open. To the beyond all the information of this journey. I repeat, second fortnight of the month of September of two thousand twenty- four, you have it on the website Three trips Juan Jesús Vallejo com In very few days, two or three days already there was the information of the trip, repeat,

16:19 three trips Juan Jesús Vallejo? We encourage you to live the magic of Egypt and the magic of sailing the Nile and we start there without cursing. Alejandro Bernal, partner friend, how are you? All right. Walhe a greeting for IT, for Ritchie the controls and, of course, for all the listeners who access this content through the podcast that we posted on the YouTube channel of Caracol Radio Juang While you were telling that story of Dorett and Iri, it has always seemed easy to me to see you as a woman who is one of the highest references of Egyptology in all history. Yes, in the 20th century, which is clearly an absolute genius, he had such a special connection to magic and a woman of science to give what they only gave of science. And it' s curious because Egyptian archaeologists that in general the most skeptical people in the world. They tell him about Omsetti and everyone settles down they say no, not this lady' s completely real. She said she was a priestess, but the aunt, that is, found the gardens of the avid temple. Rehizo, the temple of Avidos. He translated all the inscriptions from the temple of Avidos. I knew how to write and read hieroglyphics when I was under 20 years old. It' s a bestiality, but a bestiality. And then and it' s funny and it' s sad, not because her grave is in the middle of nowhere, near the temple, but it' s in the middle of nowhere, because she couldn ' t be buried in any graveyard, since she was the religion of ancient Egypt Tremendo Juan who imagine yourself having the ability to translate those hieroglyphics that she

17:51 isn' t even Gyptologists from the same country could do and this woman we ' re included. Impressive that story, but above all, that goes very badly with the theme of today' s game program, reincarnation, stories of the people who transmigrate, who re- adopt another subject in this world, stories easily with the writer Marco Ruacho. Indeed, friend, history of the afterlife. I do believe that death is just a new beginning. I do not believe in death and I am convinced that we are travelers from a multiverse and we will continue to see each other in another world, as Setti said first in sleep Adorothi, that there really were even humans in another world.

18:33 What a great mystery of ancient Egypt. That' s why I' m fascinated. Anyway, let' s give way to the interview we have with Marco Roballo, who has researched these kinds of issues and the interview started like this for many researchers and already, in this has been involved many scientists like Samparniya Pim van Lomel many decades ago already started with this Raimon Mudi. Death would be nothing more than the last known frontier, one more step in life, since for these researchers, and it is what I think, although in my subjective opinion life, death forgiveness is only one more step in life, since we are travelers of a multiverse. We do not know where we are going, but I am convinced that this journey continues and the interview we have today I have here in my hands a book by Marco T Roballo called transmigration.

19:37 The fifth tomb, the fifth tomb of the Planeta publishing house. And what Marco does in this novel is to tell us precisely about that possibility, that we are travelers of a multiverse, but frame, as is the first time you are with us, who is Marco Roballo for our entire audience. Well, thank you very much for the invitation to the program with Jesus Alexander. I am happy to be here again in Colombia, in my country, and to be able to talk a little bit about this exciting issue that in past lives, transmigration, reincarnation, as some people often call it. Marco Orroballo is an author of teraplanets. I have several books written, but in this genre, in this genre that has to see a little beyond? Like what' s a little bit beyond? But of life is therefore transmigration, and man is in the mirror. I' m a mechanical engineer. I have lived in the United States for twenty- four years and sometimes I travel here to Colombia once or twice a year, especially in the framework of the international book fair very well. Thank you so much for being here with us and sharing your time writing Transmigration and you were telling me another book also where you talked about that possibility of reincarnation you did it out of pure desire that well, basically you' re a writer and it' s a subject that caught your attention. Or you have had personal experiences related to this that marked

21:08 you and pushed you to dedicate part of your literature to this type of phenomenon. I believe that the author, being versatile, can have many fields of exploration in the literature part. I like the historical novel. I was a warned reader from an early age, to the point that I was sixteen, seventeen years old, I already had more than five hundred books read in all kinds of genres, but there was always something that caught my attention was to find that world that seems to be parallel to our lives and contains some mysteries. I began to do some research and it was a book, precisely a book by an American psychiatrist who is well known that this Brian Wise En, in which I find something that was called many lives many wise and he does an exploration on the horizon that caught my attention and was like a patient of this prestigious American doctor, led him to transcend or to look better, to look on that vast horizon something that we did not know and is that there is beyond that border that we know as life. That, then, also opened my curiosity and about twenty- five years ago I began to investigate whether it was actually that there were other lives, if it was actually what was manifested. I am of Catholic religion, I am not as much as I

22:44 would like to be in religion, but I gave myself as that space to look for if there were actually other types of exploration that I had to link to. And that' s how I find that point as through the hypnotic regression hypnosis of people in one of Brian Whise' s books. I don ' t know, Alejandro, if you remember at the end in the last pages there' s how to make a regression, how suddenly fundamental this kind of experience with someone. And so I wanted to, I didn' t want to, and I don' t want it to sound that way to take my wife as a school, me from Indias, but I practiced that regression. She was used participatoryly and it' s the first time I' ve done that regression. What would I find if it was actually that we could get to that hypnotic trance and if we could do it, we' d find it. That was the way, as I see myself, I was linked to this process that suddenly took me. It was linking me to wanting to investigate more and more and more every day until that first book appears, the topic of the comeback says. Well this, this is very curious, because the very rhythm moves the creator of the book life after life, which is the first time that someone, specifically this gentleman in doctor and psychiatrist, someone gets into investigating near- death experiences, where he pulls out a whole series. Let' s say about points and parallels between people who have been clinically dead and then resurrected. And those points, well, they'

24:18 re super- wise. It' s a sense of weightlessness to find yourself in a place where it' s really very comfortable and not wanting to see your life again in a few seconds to pass before your eyes, to meet beings who have already passed away and to be able to talk to them about the famous tunnel that we can see drawn even in a picture of the forest and even to see a being of light that in a moment tells you that it' s not your time. And it' s funny because Ritmo Mudie starts with this and then he gets obsessed. Also on the subject of hypnotic regressions. I have to say that I have a personal experience. I don ' t know if he ever told it here or not. I don' t think so. So many years ago. Alejandro didn' t really tell it many years ago with a well- known child therapist in Spain, Horacio Ruiz, who was the person, a person who worked a lot with Fernando Jiménez del Oso who ten years ago was a very well- known person who in peace rests me from the stars. Well, I, at the time I was running twenty- two years ago, directed a television themed channel called another border and then I said, well, then, let me have a hypnotic regression. And this was the channel with no expectation of anything else.

25:41 It' s worth things like sony by its name and after about two hours of hypnosis, because it has to be done in a very deep trance the subject of regression, because this gentleman suddenly sent me to my mom' s belly to feel like I was between the amniotic fluid there and all this. And all of a sudden, because I remember it perfectly, looting my fingers and it' s like and before that you see then what I saw is that I remember it as if it was ara itself because you see as phrases, that is, you don' t see a movie itself, but you see as fran as loose photographs. No. Then I remember that I was in a meadow like very green, that there was a girl who had a white dress and that I just saw her from the back, I didn' t see her face. I felt like a tremendous love for that woman I didn' t see and she was a lady who had curly brown hair a little crespo. That' s because you' re going from scene to scene.

26:48 I couldn' t move forward. Another scene happened to me and I was, well, in a castle where I was eating there in the middle age and there were gentlemen and there was someone who seemed like very important, not if I was like a king or something, and I liked that guy very badly. I don' t know why, but I really liked him. After that, that here begins the curiousness of the experience, it brings me out again and into another scene of that time and I look in a white robe. I imagine it was a Templar. I don' t know, but I was dressed in military and I remember what struck me the most is having hallucinations or, let' s say, sensitive illusions. I' m telling you, I smelled the mesh size. I smelled like iron.

27:40 I felt the weight of the iron that was on me, I felt the moisture, the sticky moisture and the dirt of the place where I was. I was in a cell with a gentleman who was like a monk, but we weren' t locked up, but it was kind of a cell, but it was excavated in the rock. The walls were not made of stone blocks, but were like some kind of underground. I was there with him and I didn' t talk to him and just because I felt like there begins the funny topic, this one like that I had to go here to San Juan de Acre and I had not everything that made me repeat that I had to go to San Juan de Acre. I had not read of Templars at that time of my life. I hadn' t read a fucking Templar or anything. Well, then another scene happens to me and in that other scene what I see is that I go in a small boat. I understand that because of the Mediterranean and the people who go with me are Arabs the only one who had no Arab was me. And then in the next scene, which is the most curious. I' m suddenly with other gentlemen who are dressed like me, but I' m on horseback and the rest is on foot and I know I shake hands with one and I' m on the horse, I shake hands with one. I tell you again what I have to go to San Juan de Acre and so and I understand that those who are going to stay there because of me or for me to escape or

29:12 for me to leave will kill them. Then I began to cry in a tremendous way to the point that Horacio Ruiz had to get me out of the hypnotic trance and I never made the video public because it seemed very personal to me and the fact that I started to cry like a madalena, because it was like I didn' t feel like everyone would see this. Then, Horacio insisted on me Hey, Juange, you have a trauma from a past life It' s true that I have a regression. I wasn' t gonna get paid. He didn' t even charge me on that occasion, but I was so scared and I had such a hard time because of that kind of trauma that went out there that well, and that shocked me a lot. I was very impressed in the sense, because and then I talked to friends psychologists and said no, because it can be a state of deep suggestion and then that' s why you had those illusions in your senses, like smelling the height of mesh, like feeling the humidity as such. But yes, it' s something that shocked me a lot that really or not really. And in this I have no idea just the experience I had.

30:18 I know what I lived, I know I was shocked by a lot and I don' t believe in death, but out of conviction, I' m neither Catholic, nor Christian, nor anything at all, but I don ' t believe in death. I don' t believe in death for but not at all and I became obsessed with this and that' s why I so many times one of the things that pushed me to go to Egypt and investigate life after life in Egypt and other cultures. And I do find this fascinating. Marco. I don' t know how the experience with your wife was and if to such an extent it impacted you to get you to write that first novel, for the truth that the story I lived in regression was the milk in the sense of forgiveness for having said it as colloquial, but on the one hand it was very magical, but on the other hand, I had it fatal, I had it remal i mean, I started to cry, but you can' t imagine. I know you had to get out of traffic because special preparation is needed. Or in theory, anyone can make a hybmotic regression. In principle, because more than 90 percent of people are susceptible to being immotized, then, if they can notice you already, they can make a regression. What happens is that regression is done when you ' re in a very deep state of hypnosis, that' s like after an hour or so at least the one that I did, the one they did to me then. But it' s very curious. What I was saying before, so I do visual classes because it' s that you see

31:51 it for a few seconds, you see that you' re there and that you see people and what else, it freaks out what most scratched my head that that' s why I went to see a friend you psychologist and such hallucinations or illusions call it whatever you want, sensitive, the smelling of iron from the height of mesh, feeling with weight and humidity and such, but it lives it real, but real, that a dream, yes, much more. I recommend everyone as an experience, because you want here I do not make anyone anything, but as an experience. Yeah. It is very curious and then notice that there are a lot of researchers who became obsessed with good rhythms, very dim. He became obsessed with the creator of the book Life After Life, and he was the one who brought out good, for everything that happens at that time of death to a lot of people writing that book, which was a super ber being the worlds. First he writes about the Vaina tunnel like this and he became obsessed with it. And no wonder because if they do it to you and it works half right, it' s an experience you' re going to remember all your life, but absolutely all your life. We were interviewing writer Marco Roballo and telling stories that make us think that death is really just the beginning, that there is a beyond, and not only that, but the possibility of reincarnation. And the interview

33:24 with Marco Roballo continues ah Yes, well, Jesus, I think I would have to answer this question a little bit further. I have always had a somewhat strange perception of the events that are about to take place. Let' s say that frequency, that frequent visit of the people who have left, because it has called my attention a lot. I began to have them from an early age with people who had died, who came, visited me in sleep and told me things and asked me for favors. So that struck me a little bit to know that there were strange events to which I never had or could give some kind of explanation. Let' s say, one of the moments that hit me the most was living in Barranquilla, here in Colombia, I had a taxi. I was working as an engineer in a company and within one of the things I had was that I had bought a taxing and had it so that a driver who was going sporadically would take it and go to work at a certain time. I didn' t want to keep his car in the car anymore I left my car in the car and I didn' t want to take it out again because it was a lot of trouble. There was always some kind of argument because where something like that came in. Then the last of the drivers that I had already told him that I didn' t want to get any more out of the car came to

34:57 the company where I worked and told me poor engineer. I want you, please, opportunity. I just had a kid. He' s a few months old and I' d like him to give me a chance to get back to work in the cab. I told him, man, no, no, I wouldn' t want to. Well, we were there talking at the end of the day I told him it' s okay. I ' m gonna leave the car for you to work it' s only at night, because at night I need the game to keep carlos. Then by day they' re being left. I never understood myself with this kind of business and I let this be handled by my wife because of the fact that I worked with a cement company in the north of the country and was always busy. So she' s the one who' s in charge of giving them keys and all this sort of stuff. One day, one Sunday be my wife, with my children they went out and I stood in the house and just at that moment this gentleman arrived. When he arrived, he turned me around. I wasn' t going to open the door because I was doing some other homework, but it was so much the insistence that I went out to take care of him. Then he told me he was going for Carlos' keys. I give it to the tire and car and there was a kind of radio that was removable that would put the carts and could be removed. I remember a lot about that scene that when he' s already leaving, they call me, they call me an engineer. You can lend me, please, the stage of the radio I want to listen to music.

36:19 I gave it to her. Okay. I' ll come back and take a couple of steps. Juan, when something makes me stop, it makes them come back in my footsteps. I stared at the lord and blessed him, thinking that he would no longer be seen that night he was killed. It was a pretty strong question for me. Pretty strong above all that I felt some guilt because suddenly I couldn' t have stopped that. I didn' t know what was going to happen, but the fact that I had given him like that blessing had no explanation at all, because I never in my life. I do that, because I' m Catholic, but I' m so practical before I do this kind of thing. I had to go to the examination of his body. I went with his family and started to question what' s on the bottom of all this. When I was introduced to people and they said hey look, it' s just that I left something pending. I need you to help me with this. It was too frequent when I dreamt of them at a certain time in Dallas, Texas, where I live, that a situation is presented to me that was quite strong for me and is that my dream is that there is a red car, a four- door car, of a recent model, that crashes against a pole and has a pretty strong coalition. As soon as I wake up. John Jesus, yes, Alexander I tell my wife is going to see an accident. There' s going to be a very strong accident.

37:47 I want anyone we know to be a red car, but to have to drive the car. My daughter has a red car, but she' s a gip. She told me, but it was a gip and she told me I didn' t tell her. I didn' t say of everyone that they let him go in a touch of what' s in the jimil, but that they won' t take the car out, because because so many things with jesus have happened to me, because they took what I was saying very seriously. However, we left for work. When I arrive at my house in the afternoon, a section of the suburbs of dalas is called morphy texas. When I am arriving there is a helicopter near my house two blocks from a mall house and the helicopter was overflying the area. Then we arrived all our lives were closed and when they gave way to me to be able to turn, he found the same red four- door car. He had crashed or crashed into a pole and his three passengers had died, all sixteen- year- olds. So, when that kind of thing starts to happen, when you see, let' s say with my case that I see a person falling from the second floor to the first floor of my house, here really back and before a fire engine starts to sound, it starts to an ambulance car. Start ringing. I see the whole picture and they call me with what has happened, because that strikes them a little bit because they happen to them that kind of thing that you don' t want to happen. I don' t want to know what' s going on before this happens. But when you know you' re going to ring the phone,

39:19 you' re going into a phone call that doesn' t bring nice news, that kind of thing makes you live in an undesirable situation. So I think that kind of thing in the past, which happened to me very regularly, made me question about that. When I did the regression to my wife I was looking for an answer to that. If it was true that that happened, I' ll regress it. My wife had antecedent that she was afraid of cars. She couldn' t get past an avenue. I always had one to accompany her to pass the avenue and in that regression, I told her, because let' s try to look, if possible, in an ethical way, to try to sublimate that, to end that and make that regression. Or that' s something we' ve talked about before with Alexander. I' m regressing her and, to my surprise, she comes to the day of the accident when she was with her brother in the car. She tells me with luxury of details what has happened to her, something that normally in her consciousness I am not agreed in gives me up to the license number or the carmen plate. It gives me very accurate features or details of the day of the accident. When she tells me all this, I tell her to try to overcome that which she no longer remembers. More than that, but more. However, she wanted me to go to another situation at some other time where she would also have had some kind of unpleasant

40:52 experience with a vehicle. And to my surprise, she since you tell me I have another experience. After a few minutes of silence, he tells me there is another experience. She begins to tell me that she goes in a car and that the car goes down to the same fast speeding down the hill and I ask her what the car was telling me. They tell me about a car that has tires like a bicycle. That' s a lot of attention, because I was talking about a car from the early 19th century, the late 18th century. I' m very attracted to it. That does not forgive at the end of the 19th century, the beginning of the 20th century. When she tells me this, I tell her to describe the situation that the car is driving here and she tells me she' s handling it herself. And for me it was hardly possible that that would happen, because I was just starting to drive a vehicle. I was teaching him this kind of driving in Barranquilla. And when I tell her to describe herself, she tells me or tells me she has the uniform. He' s a man, he' s got a U S military uniform and he' s got a beard and he' s crashing into the car and finally dies. Then that, then, after she wakes up from this transignotic. Okay. That ' s good. We were tremendous. We remained silent, We had not what to say, We did not have an answer, but I did know that there was something that suddenly we do not know, why we do not

42:22 know. I don' t know why we don' t have that memory to cut us short of that. I don' t know. A lot of people talk about genetic memory that they' re suddenly things that have happened the most. However, let me think that there is something and that I suddenly do not know the religion of governments. There' s someone who should be interested in finding out what' s there, what we don' t know. Why we are prepared for a first communion, for a confirmation, for a marriage, but for the most important step that we have to change suddenly, what we have as physical life. Why doesn' t anyone tell us about it, why doesn' t it prepare us, why we have to be so afraid of something that shouldn' t be and I, like you, don' t believe much either. No, I totally agree with you. We are not prepared for anything, to die him. We have tremendous terror. Yes, it is true that as a human, although human nature has less and less faith in many things, but as a human, it is true that that feeling of loss and emptiness that we have when a loved one leaves, for it is something that can destroy us. I mean, this I once commented on, and I have the misfortune of curiosity in my life. I ran out of family when I was thirty- five, lost my whole family. Then it' s something that destroyed my life that I can comment on right now that for many years I didn' t even comment on there is perhaps because of that and because of the obsession I had with life, after life, to research in other cultures as well. Mostly, I' m not a doctor, I can' t do that.

43:53 That' s how I really convinced myself that death doesn' t exist, that is, death is nothing more than a step in life. That' s why I was commenting before that we' re travelers from a multiverse. It is very curious, because you have told me several anecdotes about you in your life, that you have lived and that you have been pushed to make this book that I have here in my hand transmigration. The fifth tomb as we would really be travelers of how. And, well, there are several things, one of them also what happened to you with that cab driver when you lived in Barranquilla. All right, so how is the human being able to anticipate death or how tragic there are studies of when modern parapsychology was born with j Berring in the year the thirties of the last century at Duke University in the United States, where it was commented, because he did a lot of research on what was the possibility of telepathy and precognition to anticipate what was going to happen. Seconds later, it' s the experiments that j Ring develops and even if science looks the other way and you don' t want to know any of this, with the support of Alberasting himself, I think it wasn' t any scientist nor do I think it wasn' t any scientist. Human beings and, above all, women, more than men,

45:28 in principle, have more capacity for precognition than we men. For the following reason, because for three hundred thousand years the human being, if we go to the genus homo, for four million years, when we lived in a cave and had to leave the cave, and if you were able to anticipate the danger, they had more ability to survive. If for a long millennium people who had that capacity survived genetically. We have an inheritance that gives us that capacity, that of precognition. And why do women have more than simple men, because women until practically a century ago, because the poor, since they were sixteen or seventeen years old, began to have children and had one child after another, after another, after others, and obviously had no physical with which to defend themselves from an external threat. While the men were from war to war giving us zucchini and doing the brute. And then men say we had more ability to protect ourselves than women. So always, the topic that women were more witches than we would have a part of a certain science, true forgiveness and protected by science. So, all those things that tell me and that I don' t know why humans kind of put on a barrier and we say no that this can' t be the scientific mind and

47:02 what they call scientific thought, has made us so empirical that we' ve forgotten the ability we have to transcend, which seems to me to be a wonderful thing. Alejandro Bernal, I think he wanted to comment on something good. Several things. Juan G here fascinated by the experience that told them to the master Marco Robello also with your experience of regression on what you said about women. It is also an important factor for the development of these psychic or precognition abilities. It has to do with that, biologically, a woman or a mother, in this case, having contact with a baby, has to try to interpret the sounds, noises and gestures that make a being that cannot communicate and that cannot ask for things. This has meant that for millions of years women have developed this ability to learn to interpret these signs and even sometimes anticipate themselves in the direct case of their mother- child relationship. That would make them more telepathic than we do. That' s funny, but anyway, in j Berring' s experiments, which were based on telepathies and precognition, that the most absurd result that was telepathy with the famous Zenners and Medio cards, which is a second I explain it, because he had an assistant who was called Zner. So it' s a little card that was a star, a wave, a square or a circle. There were five symbols for five twenty- five cards. So, of course, if I' m going to write to you, either of us five times, or one

48:34 hundred and twenty- five runs per statistic, you have to accept twenty- two, thirty, and that' s math. If someone is right, fifty or eighty that, what mathematically proves is that something abnormal is happening, even if they don' t understand it, don' t understand the human mechanism in the brain that does that. The most absurd result was not a woman, it was of a man, It was of a student, specifically of theology. It is more about the student of this theology there is something so absurd. The results that remained were once he sent him to another building. You already said not only the person in front, because I know the guy doesn' t cheat, he can' t cheat, but come on I' m sending him to another building inside Duke' s University. The results of that experiment at the mathematical level were like zero comma I don' t know how much to zero and then at the end one that would give a chance that would have happened. And this guy wasn' t a witch, he didn' t edit him, he didn' t have any interest in esotericism or anything, and then he didn' t do anything in his life, I mean, just his brain. For whatever it is, it gave you an absurd telepathic communication capability and that was an over- scientific experiment.

49:46 I have it here and I have a scientific article from here in my archive of that experiment, I mean, and that' s kind of absurd, but that something so heavy that impacted the very one, to the clear roar that I support them when people started criticizing him. Albe Einstein did the foreword of a book by a journalist friend of his, he added to the radio by supporting j r experiments by saying science cannot be closed to this that we do not understand what is going on. It doesn' t mean it doesn' t get clear exactly. Exactly Juan Gey and within the scientists who have investigated precisely this phenomenon of anticipating events that are going to occur. Psychiatrist John Barker had the opportunity to juang collect a series of testimonies from infants who died in a tragedy that occurred in Wales in nineteen hundred and sixty- six, something known as Aubert Fan Averfan' s Great Accident was a mining town in this part of Britain. Juange and it turns out that in October of one thousand nine hundred and sixty- six there was an accident where half a thousand tons of coal buried an area of the town, an area where at that time children were being transported to school and the psychiatrist a Barker, Juan ge Marco and Listeners, collected a fascinating testimony from Eril May Jones' s mother. Erim May Jones was a nine- year- old girl who on the day of the tragedy had told her mother that she had dreamed that something

51:19 black had fallen on her. The mother did not pay much attention to her, sent her to school without any problems, and the girl was one of the victims who died in this accident. Another testimony he could collect in this case, John Barker had to do with one of Paul Davis' parents. Paul Davis was also an infant in this case of eight years, a year younger than this other girl who also perished, and Paul Davis days before this accident, where this infant lost his life had drawn some figures, digging a hillside, excavating something that had been produced in this case by an accident an infant who had anticipated the event with which he and other infants perished, a fact documented in Wales last century is not very documented. One hundred and twenty - one deceased, one hundred and sixteen of them were children. And indeed, this doctor you' re talking about, impacted on the testimonies of this child who said how something dark imprisoned them. And indeed, the coal scum that was that moved, buried, buried much of the school and there is the one who died, I repeat, one hundred and sixteen children, plus five teachers. Then experiments were attempted in Britain. For this and others that were not left in anything about precondition. But there' s something look now

52:55 that we' re talking about this kind of thing. So how can we get to tell the catastrophe at the end of the story of Abert Fant, Juan Ge And some surprising of this is that the society for psychic research in Britain as soon as these researches were documented by these scientists who realized that children had seen, had anticipated their own death received substantial funding from the British Government to investigate further what had happened, why there were people like these infants, for example, this girl who had seen that some black had fallen on her and besides, Juan Gen did not reach a specific conclusion, but did draw their attention to a let' s say pre- eliminate report within the research that Juan ge did and is that, on the one hand, this type of people who used to anticipate such events, in a large percentage were infants who perhaps did not have much cultural pollution and women. Again, as if women are in that capacity to be sweet it is developed that we are if children. I believe that what this mania of the rational empirical mind and such a story restricts that ability that we have to brush with our fingers the supernatural That' s what I think happens. That' s why children, because they have that kind of abilities and how many children play with invisible friends, stories and pods and it seems to me like a story as very curious now.

54:27 Imagine Aberfan' s parents who thought that what their children told them was foolishness or a weight from her or a child' s play, and then, collecting corpses, that is, my mother, must be a real torment. But, I do believe that we have that capacity of precognition to anticipate the future that is usually always linked to tragic events when something tragic is going to happen, because it is nothing more than a mechanism for defending nature. Sure. That also makes women ill, as Duke' s parapsychologist, J Berrin, said, because women in ancient times had to have children who were twelve, thirteen years old and died at thirty years old and without stopping.

55:17 You were having children and had less defensive capacity between external elements than a man. Then you also have wisdom in that regard. And here we follow in mystery night your questions and comments through the new snail mystery. We were telling you how the precognition shown at Aberfan in Wales also tells us how children can have a subtle connection with that. Beyond going out with Marco Roballo and the interview with him continues ah yes, a long time ago with a good friend of mine. He' s an engineer, although he does do other things today and so he' s been investigating one thing. I don' t know if you know this. Marco Roballo, we' re stealing your lead, but I gave you a break, okay, and I' m listening to you like Grandpa Onion. While Alejandro was speaking, this came. This came to mind thanks to a friend David Zurdo is called his novels are translated into twelve languages, since the Lord wrote it. He' s not bad at it like he' s my brother or no friend I don' t know if I hear this. Then he became obsessed with a project that was the global consciousness project, the global consciousness project that brings him out at an American university. I remember right now, right now you can find me the data Alejandro, American University takes out the global awareness project that basically the global

56:47 consciousness project was based on the following distribute a series of computers by the planet University of Preston, Juan Que from Princeton Vale University, Priston University and scientific path that developed the Alejandro project. Thanks well, because it was computer delivery all over the world, that you don' t even need to distribute it today, as everything is connected online, because you tell me you have a computer and for x hours a day you will work on this global awareness project that was the following. It was just computers. If I throw at random zero and one, they have to give after twenty- four hours fifty percent of zero and fifty percent of one without more. It was like throwing coins on the air. Then it has to come out fifty percent face and fifty percent crosses. He has no more science. This is for pure statistics.

57:39 Well, at this university, an experiment at Priston University, they realized that when there was a global event that impacted humanity, the machine, twenty- four hours before they chose either the zeros or the ones in an absurd way, breaking any statistical topic. Of course, he faced Princeton University in all this research and we didn' t know where the planet was going to happen or what was going to happen. But, for example, when the September 11 of the year two thousand one, the machine the day before went crazy.

58:22 And that' s super- verified by Pristol University You were going to tell something. Alejandro and I play that the teacher who carried out this initiative was Robert Jean, professor at Princeton School of Engineering, and this experiment began to be carried out since a thousand nine hundred and ninety- eight. Yeah, yeah, sure, and that' s why the boom was when the Twin Towers thing, the Twin Towers thing, the machines the day before went crazy. But that did not have to be an event in which many people died, for example, if the Pope was going to die, the machines did the same thing, why, because it impacted a lot of people who are Catholic. That was just a crazy thing to do. But for you to see that kind of how I would say it from the soul of the planet that from time to time gives us notice and that we don' t understand are able to detect it to the machine. Marco Roballo. Please, your opinion of all the things that Alexander and I have told here in Plan Grandfather Ceboyata. Not, therefore, fascinate that what you say and if it is not only statistical data, but it is real things, it is things that have happened, that are documented and that, because we must all pay attention to them, because perhaps many times things happen and we have it more as a coincidence than as a causality. And perhaps if we pay attention to it, we can understand a little more what is the foundation that has us here in life. Suddenly, within the things that I can tell you,

59:52 Look at talking about the subject of death, which is so repetitive in our life, on the part of our life. My father was a person who was very afraid of death. My father left five years ago, very great friends, I was writing by that time the Man' s Book in the mirror, and I was doing it so that I could understand what that portage is that carries it just like you. As we were saying, Jesus, I don' t think death exists. I think it' s more of a birth. For me it is not death, but birth what happens to me in the form of form. When I see things, I do or think that we are like the butterfly before becoming a butterfly. We are that obillo, we are that part that is in the process of development and evolution.

1:00:45 And just when she' s already the butterfly, when she can extend her rooms and when she flies out, when she actually has life. Of course, there' s something like a preparation for that to happen. I believe that we too are in that kind of preparation here. We' re getting ready for something big, but to get there, we have to go through a lot of stadiums. I think that' s what we' re doing. Then I founded and I the Man' s Book in the mirror and I shared it with my father and from that moment when he read that book, he was fascinated to the point that he was taking some pills because he had a heart condition. After he read the book, he served himself in such peace that he suspended the pills and suspended all that. And my dad' s gone, he' s gone that way,' cause he already felt the peace of mind. He had like those fears that are suddenly ill- founded. There is a topic I don' t know if you and you Alexander know it well, which is the photographic effect of Killian, which is a doctor who was doing some experiments and when they took pictures of a person who was on the verge of death, they realized that there was like an ectoplasm, that there was a form of fair, that the body was detached and that the last part that traveled was the part of the stomach.

1:02:05 I was very interested in that because I wanted to know what' s really going on with that, what' s going on in those hospitals, where there are so many paranormal effects that you don' t understand what' s going on there. I started to investigate all that and started to create a kind of story around that the story of two people who know each other, who love each other a lot, but there is always a way of man- manipulation towards women. And when he suddenly wants to do something, it' s too late because they' ve already had an accident. The lady who gives in a coma and only gives her a term of approximately seventy - two hours of life and there she made a career from him to try to seek forgiveness. But when he sees that comatose state, there' s no way to tell him to forgive him, whether he' s listening to it or not. Then a series of bioethical situations begin to arise in the sense of how far man is allowed to manipulate the human condition. He starts looking at what he can do, think about suicide, about assisted suicide.

1:03:13 You get a thousand things going on in your head, but you don' t find a solution to how to be with your wife and tell her to forgive me for everything I did and where she finds a doctor of these doctors who are half- crazy, who has died a son and he always dreams of that son, and this son introduces himself to him and he tells him calmly, don' t worry about me and that I' m in a better place, but don' t worry. I' m fine and he ' s always with that question, because he doesn' t know if it ' s actually a manifestation of that son or it' s a dream he has and it' s something he wants to see. So, when this person comes in and says hey, I want him to take my life. He finds an opportunity to find out what' s beyond, but then he tells him to look. I' m not a murderer, I' m not going to take your life, but I' m going to do something to you, I' m going to cause you to die, but I ' m going to give you four and a half minutes for you to come back at what time caused you to die, the very moment he dies on the wife, so that he believes that if you put him on the same plane that they die at the same time and cause him to die, they can find a situation where he can talk to his wife and tell her everything he wants to say to her four and a half minutes and bring him back through the electrical issue. But the only thing he asks of you is not going to charge him anything. Only hospital services, but when he comes back, he' ll say ok, what happens. If there is anything, if it is scientifically proven that there is this, he prepares it, everything happens. Mrs Castile almost died that she had to kill both of them.

1:04:43 When the lady finally falls in these last few minutes, he' s got everything ready, causes her death and they go there. That' s the first part of the book where he tells him everything he' s doing to make that death happen. When it happens, there is a second part, that the second part of the book in which you already take it. The omniscient is no longer narrated in the first person, but is not felt sees everything that is happening there in that world that is posed to us as a very beautiful world, as an interesting world, as a paradise world, where he meets a lot of people, finds his dad who has already died and begin to explain to him what one finds there, and his father, who has already died, says look at him. This is a place of light, of transparency, of tranquility. Here' s a temple and he shows you the temple on the other side of a river he says, and that river for what it says. In that river is where the soul is purified.

1:05:42 The person who enters upwards goes to the other side and enters a kind of good. What did you do in life, what did not remain where there are no questions of religion or is equal to an atheist than a Christian who a Muslim is going to have the same opportunity to pass there that, then, we are all children of God and in that order of all God ' s weeds. So be it, the son is more disobedient. God will not treat him any more, but, on the contrary, he will try to see what he did to improve him and he will tell him what is going on. If I get in that water, it says if they put you in that water you' re not coming back anymore, because that water purifies and then it says ah no here it is. I want to stay here. I don' t want to go back and get in that water like trying to make that kind of trap that you sometimes say no.

1:06:26 No. We' re not going to say he got the Colombians that he was American, but this güeyhizo. Let' s do this thing here. I' m going to get in can purify me here and he goes out and grabs the one who' s his wife with the quiet hand that he doesn' t know anymore. There comes a clumsy gino and the whirlwind starts talking about it and he says no, but they can' t take him, because I and there yes, I already got in the water and they can' t take me. And that' s where it ends when the doctor lines up to the body and this body appears, this gentleman over there, when they' re giving him the electric shocks, reliving it because he spent the four minutes and he' s in the middle here, but it ' s been a long time since he had all this experience. And there ends the second part of the book narrated by the omniscient. It' s not going to spoil you, because if not, then people say no.

1:07:11 Please, I' ll leave you no, I' ll leave you with a mouth opener When the person returns there, the man is lying on the bed, on the stretcher, opens his eyes and says what happened. Then you remember the accident, you remember everything. Look outside, he wakes up and the person is naked. She' s completely naked. When he' s going to get up, because he' s completely clueless, this person doesn' t know what happened. He comes in and touches his chest and feels like weird, he says it happened and when he lowers his hand more and touches his people and such he gets scared a lot more because he says it' s not me. It turns out that it wasn' t him who returned to the body, but she was and is occupying there and that ' s where everything that' s going to really start with this girl so she can find out what happened, why she' s a body there, because now she' s seeing a role from him. Yeah, well, all that Lope man is. I think that for those of you who make fiction these kinds of issues are wonderful. They are wonderful because they are facts that make us redraw the limits of reality and that make us open the.

1:08:23 Mind, I, while I was talking, was remembering, for example, an anecdote that I have. I don' t think I know if he ' s ever gonna count here or not. As I' m already every way more grandparents onions and is that we have a podcast that has seven million of two hundred thousand reproductions. I think it' s podcast, well, I think it' s podcast. It' s not the podcast. More would you listen to the story of Caracol with much difference, what is it about life after life, and then that podcast that I was interviewing Esteban Cruz? I think you know him, Marco. Yeah, I was interviewing this van crub his book that he does right after life that I' m the book' s prologodist. I am interviewing Esteban Cruz and we give testimony from the former president of Samper and Navarro Wolf, who is another Colombian politician.

1:09:15 And speaking of this, the case arose in a case of Javier Banega, the Lazaro of Corabastos. And it' s funny because a few days ago I collaborated with History Channel, so they call me History channel hears. We ' re looking for this gentleman, who turns out, apparently, the guy is the person who' s been clinically dead the longest fifty- two minutes. He' s got a knife in his heart in Corabasto. This gentleman, because he was a person who had problems with substances and so and that he was good, waste picker, that he was not a waste picker and good call me from History Channel. They ask me that I say to see you these bollocks, which means that Bogotá has nine million and a peak of people. How am I going to meet this guy or such not total stupidity I said no. I cannot collaborate with that, because not and in the program, because I have the book of Esteban in hand and I tell you hear, by the way, this case of Javier Manega not incredible this story.

1:10:18 Such I' ve even reached out to the doctor who did the surgery and I don' t know what. And Takataito while he was as he was when the pandemic, while this was going on, because I was home with the microphone doing the live snail program. Then I can think of it. I didn' t put it on Google. Javier Banega Lázaro decorated this and when the photo appears to me, I have. Man, if that guy was with, I tell that guy I borrowed my dog to make my little dog, to make an announcement for a drug help foundation that came out of the Vaine Night. And besides, when I loaned him the dog, he told me I had an experience and I didn' t pay him any attention the dog sees that some friends, that this is no longer total.

1:11:08 Finish the program. Obviously, he grabbed the phone. Called this producer friend who is a well- known producer in Colombia that as if he were my brother, I tell him hear the guy this of yours that if the woman is the one who cleans house and so of course I know where it is? How are you? They passed me the phone I called your History El. They interviewed the History Chanel. I did a podcast here on Caracol, on Caracol Radio, with the story of Javier Vanega. He was at my house, he invited him to eat hamburger, I took him to a photograph where he had been stabbed and I, when I was thinking this about the program, also, I said well, because what is going to be impossible is that I interview the doctor and I say it and at two minutes the doctor writes me by twitter and tells me it' s not that my wife is super fan of your program. So, when I want to regret seeing that when things like this happen to you, that they are coincidences or causalities, it is true when things like this happen to you, because I am a human being besides a journalist and here in Caracol, because I can tell the things that come out of my soul or what has happened to me.

1:12:17 When things like that happen and then no one, neither in Caracol nor we thought that podcast could reach what reached more than seven million people, if it didn' t say barbarity that it was the most heard podcast on this radio station. There are moments and you can think that I am crazy, insults in Juange Vallejo. You know it' s no problem. I understand it ' s like the hereafter makes you a wink and tells you listen look at people that this is true, that it' s not chance, that we ' re really travelers from a multiverse. And it' s funny, that ' s why the messages people from beyond have. As you commented that this book of which I was commenting is about this, but when I locate Javier Manega comes home the interviews History channel interview I invite him to eat and such and he tells me good, because he had a vision of heaven of hell.

1:13:15 Tal. But this gentleman eye who is a man of very, very, very scarce resource, after returning from the afterlife came so impacted with his experience that he left the drugs, and living in Ciudad de Bolívar and living with some resources, I repeat, very limited, because he is a waste picker. He has set up a small workshop there to remove from the bazooka the people who in his neighborhood fell into what he fell. And that' s a truth, like a cathedral, that this is chance or no chance or the transcendent exists for me yes now, Javier Banegas, you can go see him in Ciudad Bolívar is well has that workshop where he helps the people of his neighborhood to get out of the bazooka. His wife' s name is Isolina, he' s still working, because he' s a friend of mine and this story is real. Why this happens, because if I started to analyze mathematically the possibilities that a citizenship of millions typical of inhabitants, it turns out that the guy who was looking for histori channel Esteban crud and even the milk would have known it by chance and above all that it is that this friend of mine, his wife works in his house. I mean, I don' t explain, okay, yeah, it' s crazy, I don' t ask anymore. Yes, yes, Alejandro Bernal wanted to tell something Juan that about this shocking case Javier Manegas, also what the master Marco Roballo told us about his work that comes to me in the environment.

1:14:46 Two cases. The first is Catherine' s. Catherine was a woman who worked next to Dr Brian Wayse this man who made this issue of hepnotic regressions so popular. Brian Ward' s name, who graduated from Columbia University in New York, was also from Yale University and was closely linked to a hospital in Miami, Beachell, that of mount Sinai, and it turns out that Katherine was one of his companions in this hospital and she had an irrational fear of water. Imagine Juan g being afraid of water in Miami or it ' s complicated enough for her. This mother is a little fucked up about Katherine and it turns out that Dr Brian Wise decided to make an inotic regression.

1:15:34 Well several sessions to try to determine the cause of that irrational fear in fact. While leading these sessions, Wise came to think that he would perhaps come to some very repressed memory of childhood that would explain why Catherine had such a strong fear of water and what John ge Marco and listeners found was fascinating. This woman first- hand wrote to him a fact that happened hundreds of years ago, where this woman was seen in the middle of a flood, she was drowning, she also saw her children drowning and she told it in such a vivid and real way that Brian Wise, after this session and several, was able to determine that Katherine, one of the most important patients in her research, came to have eighty- eight previous lives. I mean, imagine that that impressive figure and it also came to determine that the root that this woman had this irrational fear of water for had been one of those deaths of a past life related to this case with advocacy, a woman who passed away and thus perished a research led by Dr Brian Wisong. Yes, indeed, I do believe that there is a beyond that I do not understand, that I do not understand, but notice that fascinating not the story that you

1:17:05 have just narrated, that there are traumas of previous lives and that they pursue you at this moment, which is the same thing that Horacio Ruiz, the hypnotherapist who made me regression and that I don' t know, I don ' t know if it is possible or not. Well, I do think it' s possible, I mean, it' s that crazy of you what do you think of the can What happens Juan Ge is that I believe and this takes me into the investigations that Dr Ion Stevenson did, who we ' ll talk about later, if time allows us, who is probably also talking about fear. The doctor who most investigated this game played that one of the inescapable symptoms that a person, because he not only had those memories of past lives, was to demonstrate characteristic skills, but above all irrational fears related to a previous loss, such as that of this woman who worked with Brian Whise Cathering and that' s why he set the example very well and tried to contextualize not only Marcos, but the listeners. Juange, imagine having an irrational fear of water in Miami, being from Miami, if being your whole life living there and this woman really what Brian Vice said is that simply by approaching the beach edge the woman would go into auric panic and panic and rational.

1:18:23 I didn' t want to be there. When she submits her to the process of hypnotic regressions, Juange discovers that this woman told her in various sessions up to more than eighty- eight, different experiences, very lived. In fact, the experience that told Vice and that reminds me of what you lived juange because this woman literally described smells and described flavors, had to do with a death that she had had in medieval times. She said that images had been seen of being surrounded by water and of having the anguish of health bar to several of her children, because she knew that the water would take them and she vividly remembered that fear for protecting her children and knowing that, not knowing how to swim at any time, because that was going to be, that was going to be her death. And Catherine described to Brian vice not only the smell of water, but the smell of so in this case the constructions where she lived. It seems that it had been a very large flood that had taken to the village where she was and wrote it very vividly the smell of how it was flooded had PP gave it all this and the fear for her children. And what Brian Wise was saying is that those kinds of sensations so real, more real than even a dream like you described it, made him think it was clearly a reliable account of this woman' s previous life. I did say the professor didn' t do it. Stevenson was a biochemist, doctor, medicine, psychiatrist, and for forty years I

1:19:58 ' ve been investigating reincarnation cases all over the world. He investigated 3, 000 cases of an incarnation doctor, three zero has published a lot of books and, for example, came up with some very curious conclusions. Then, if you want then, in the next part, if it gives time, we discuss one of the cases that investigated that memories of past lives come between the ages of two and four are like the children' s first memories and disappear between the ages of seven and eight. And also that even that he investigated forty cases of people who had marks on the body that had to do with their death in another life, that is, for example, wrinkles here on the neck, on the front very marked, and you made a regression to the guy. The guy said she had been killed or hanged, for example. And things like that are super curious this gentleman, who devoted his whole life to investigating cases of reincarnation, exactly June corretes him relationship between congenital malformations and the death of a person in a previous life that, by the way, was information that there is Er Steven sone glutino in his work twenty cases that make think of reincarnation, that was public in one thousand nine hundred sixty- six and that we could say that he put to public opinion this casuistic and this great mystery. Yes, indeed, I have a research design that we will then continue to talk about a little more and report some of their cases. And here we continue in mystery night, today diving in that

1:21:40 hereafter that opens to us once we leave this world interviewing Marco Roballa and his interview continues like this. And it is curious, then, especially the issue of reincarnation, not because there are a lot of cases. For example, even the world' s most famous hatred is that of Santidevi, who is the girl this of the day that since she was born she begins to say that in another house she had been and that she had another family And blah, blah, blah. And then, then, when they send a letter to this other family, the stir that is mounted in India. It is such that Mahamma Gandhi Shanti Devi himself has to intervene. Well, maybe he could come to say, imagine things, but what could not be known anti - devil when he came to his old family' s house was the hiding place where they had the money and said the money is there, for example, okay then that story is fascinating, I repeat, even Maha magand himself intervened perhaps also because in Hinduism the subject of reincarnation is true. I' m so open- minded that I think we can reincarnate in the future or go to the past, that is, both. In this multiverse in which we live and where we talk about mirror universes and so on, I don ' t know if we' re going forward back or sideways, but let ' s have my mind completely open in that sense. I don' t know what you think of this, Marco Roballo, no yes, there are

1:23:12 so many things that are beginning to discover us there. I think today a whole universe. I believe that perhaps at this moment we have only a small percentage of knowledge of what life really is, of what is around us, of what is going to be human and of so many things that perhaps I wish at some point you would give us an answer, because I believe that man is eager for answers. If we get to know something, we can understand each other a little bit more. I think that would be a great thing, but I don' t know if we can suddenly travel to the past, if we can travel in the future, if we illustrate it and everything is true what is proposed, because, because many times they are interpretations that one wants to give to things. Let' s say about the big pandemic, this thing that happened to us recently, that I think no one had contemplated it, no one had anywhere near what happened. When I had to give lectures, I had to be with colleges. I tell people a very important event was World War II. Who doesn' t know World War II, but I think World War II will become very opaque when we talk about the pandemic that happened to us, because it surrounded everyone. It' s the only big event that we' re just recovering from, that we still have something that' s latent, but I think that' s going to mark history and we' re survivors of that big pandemic and something that

1:24:43 was superior to World War I and World War II. I think it was also necessary for us to accept a lesson of humility to all of us. We thought that with this super mega science of the 21st century, nothing like that could happen to us and nothing like that could affect us. And that and that those were things of the past and they' re not things of the past anymore because they' re charging us the planet, they might happen again. No. And that brings us closer to what we' re talking about right now on the show. It brings us closer to death, to which death I, unfortunately, learned and learned young, death can come to you tomorrow. Then living day by day without being brainless. Of course, but try to enjoy living day by day and be happy with what you do and seek happiness in simple things. That' s what taught me what I lived with thirty- five years old, so yes, that' s something I' m very clear about. Listen Alejandro Bernal that what he had a case out there that you know of a boy who was a pilot in World War II, Nazi boy. How is history ok for me one of the most fascinating cases of reincarnation, which was studied by Irene Stevenson, the professor of the University of Virginia in the seventies of the last century, and it was a case that, as a protagonist, Karl was a British child who was born in England and that since his birth had a series of peculiarities son of a middle- class family in Britain, working class, and Carl was

1:26:15 born with a birthmark, his right leg, something that when the child was born, the doctors who examined him seemed somewhat strange to them. It wasn ' t a tare, it was just a physical feature that this infant had. Without further explanation and other detail, John ge Marco and listeners is that Karl was born with very different physical characteristics from those of his other brothers. He had two older brothers. The older brothers were white, dark- haired. Carl was born red pelli with clear eyes. In fact, his parents did not have such characteristics either. From there this infant had particularities. But this case began to take shape and become quite strange. When Carl, when he was two years old, when he learned to speak, he came and related strange things. He talked and almost wrote in detail about how he was flying a plane, a plane of certain characteristics, when his father wanted to investigate what the child was describing. In fact, what he tells Stevenson about the research that was done was that at one point, Karl' s father carried a book in World War II, John Imagine, and this child, just two years old, looked at a plane of the Baffet light and accurately described the parts of the plane and what each one of them worked for, and said them perfect German, a British child who had no German family or any such parentage. Obviously, the father I had hit like fucks, my

1:27:50 two- year- old boy, who now barely knew how to talk. He' s going to point out things to me in such detail from a Baffe light plane, an absolutely impressive thing. The boy learned to draw John Ge drew swastikas, drew black eagles. When the mother saw this, in fact, she came to think that she was perhaps the father who had been telling her accounts of World War II soldiers or that some other family member was giving her information about it. It was ruled out. Karl was a child who practically did not go out to play, who had only interaction with his parents. And this became more incipient. It got bigger in the way Karl entered school at the age of five. His parents and also the teachers and classmates were amazed because Carl was talking about Hitler, talking about rallies, talking about survivals, about uniforms, about positions within the Bermac sotroras and of course everyone was very surprised at how a child spoke so accurately, so accurately about this. But the most fascinating thing about this case, John, is that Carl Eddan was talking about Fritz, who would have been his father, a man who was a peasant, a farmer in Germany at the beginning of the 20th century. How he had been educated within the values of the family.

1:29:17 He described family names, details of their upbringing, very specific things. Clearly, when family members learned about this, they began to investigate this investigation at the time was published in the UK by the magazine womens On, an important publication there in Britain and a historian became interested in this case. He was a man who, when he read this story, decided to go and find out in Germany if there was someone who had these characteristics and had a profile that looked like what he was telling Cabedon, with an important and specific detail that I do not want to omit. In this case. Karl' s father had gone to the local library Juange and learned that a plane from the Baffe Light had been shot down by an anti- aircraft battery in a nearby town in Britain. Three bodies were recovered from this plane, two of them were buried in a mass grave and one of the pilots on this aircraft was identified as Heinrich Richtar was the pilot driving the machine gun, in this case, on this plane of Light Baffe. When this historian found out about this fact that the family had, he went to look for the family, the descendants of Hindrick Rischtad first to try to corroborate data that Carln had given of

1:30:48 this man, that he said he had been Fritz' s father, of details of his family. He also wanted an image where Heinric Rich would be seen to see if there would be any physical resemblance to what Carl Edon was, this British infant, because John Gesta historian, was where the family, there Germany, could talk to them. It collects all the data. Indeed, there was a man named Fritz, who was part of the family. One of his sons, Handry Rishter, had been part of the Nazi air force during World War II and got a photo, a photo of Rishta before enlisting the military forces, and the resemblance was amazing. Rishta was red- haired, had clear eyes and physically looked a lot like Carl Eddon, this British boy. When this historian provided this image to the family, they were absolutely shocked because they saw that the physical resemblance was remarkable. No one else in the family had these physical traits. John ge and that is one of the most shocking cases of reincarnation of a British boy who was a German pilot.

1:32:00 And the second thing is to repudiate how well I didn' t know that story seems magnificent to me and until a historian gets into it and see how reality changes when one looks at what surrounds us with the eyes of a child, with an open mind willing to learn from a world that we still discover. Marco Roballo, we' re getting to the end of this interview. Your opinion, your comments, your closure. Why would you recommend this last book of yours? Well again and haveho thank you very much, for I consider that, as you mentioned a moment ago, it should be open minded to look, cry other horizons, because I believe that not accepting that suddenly we are a little bit not looking for all the scenarios that are presented to us in their eyes. I reiterate not everything we asked, by chance, to say causalities. I think there' s an effect on everything we do, on every action we take. There' s a lot to explore.

1:33:09 I think we' re just opening our eyes in this universe. We have much to know, then, and not just read the Transmigration Book of Marco Rroyo, the man in the mirror. I think there are many, many things. You have to read Esteban Cruse, you have to investigate, you have to find people like the one you mention to us, Ahorita, because in them there is a lot of knowledge. Suddenly many people might wonder. But what can I learn or what choice I can leave to myself a recycling and realize everything he can close. There' s a great story, there' s a great story behind it, and that can help us grow to understand a little bit more life, because, because I think no one has the last word on this. So, to all listeners a cordial greeting of a big hug and, as I always recommend, read Lean Lean Thank you so much, Marco How can not follow you on social networks and others people in Marco Roballo, Marco te Roballo, on Instagram, the same thing, on Facebook, Marco te Robo and author and in any bookstore in the country can find all the books of my authorship. Thank you so much, folks. I imagine that for tro the listeners we have in the rest of Latin America through Amazon, who checked it out a second ago, they can also get your transmigration book, the fifth tomb. Marco t Roballo, Thank you so much for being part of mystery night and we will meet on another safe occasion to continue telling this kind of stories from beyond. Of course, thank you, and so was the interview with writer Marco Roballo. And,

1:34:42 indeed, there are different researchers, some of them, from the point of view of science, who have investigated reincarnation and the most common case worldwide is the psychiatrist Dr Ian Stevenson, who you can tell us about Alexander' s shocking who was able to document Dr Ian Stevenson, a man who, as you well mentioned more than three thousand cases, two three thousand degrees, an impressive best seller worldwide, the world' s greatest expert in the matter of incarnation in much of the 20th century and one of the most shocking cases has to do with the twin chicken Juan, some British girls who would have been the reincarnation of their older sisters who had passed away years before their birth.

1:35:32 This case is amazing Juange and takes us to the Pollo family, a middle - class Christian family in Britain and a large family. There were six children. Johanna was born in a thousand nine hundred forty- six and her younger sister Jackelen in fifty- one. They were six years old, five years old, and it turns out that they used to share many activities together, mainly going to church. It was a very uena family and in a thousand nine hundred and fifty- seven a tragedy occurs. A car that was deliberately driven by a woman who wanted to kill herself runs over these girls as they go to church. A tragedy that marked that family a great deal. The death of these infants was terrible. Juange reitero. This happened in May of a thousand nine hundred and fifty- seven and in October of a thousand nine hundred and fifty- eight. A year and a half later, Florence, the wife of this Pollok family, becomes pregnant with her husband again and a series of strange things begin to happen here. This case is told by the head of the Pollok family home that he had had very strange dreams, where he felt that in this case Johanna and Jackellyn were going to return and they are going to be back in this world. The truth is that months later Gillian and Jennifer, the two new daughters of the Pollok family, were born.

1:37:04 Monozygous twins, i e identical twins. Juan ge And a series of strange things begin to happen. According to the Pollok family, both Gillian and Jennifer begin to behave in a very similar way to Johanna and Jackelyn. They took her to various parts of Britain. They remembered the places, they remembered people who, being so young, didn' t have them. Why remember this case. He knows Jan Stevenson. She is interviewed at the age of four and the guy who has hallucinated not only to see how the personalities of these girls were very similar to those of their sisters, but in fact, corroborates these data, Juange that I tell you about how they identified things and another amazing detail. In this case, Gillian had a mark on her forehead that was the wound with which Sister Jacklin, the older sister, had been run over by the car, and the other sister, Juange, had a mark on her hip, also the same mark with which she left this car when one of these infants was run over. Of course, Ian Stevenson, when he knew these data and these similarities, and this way let' s say so truthfully that the girls not only had these marks, but remembered these details. For him. It is one of the most hallucinating cases of reincarnation

1:38:36 documented in the 20th century. Juange met with them later when they were seventeen years old, to verify. Without effect, these details and memories were maintained despite the time and, in fact, John said that relatives who had a personality kept her very similar to his sisters who had died tragically years earlier. Not the story so mind- blowing. Actually the cases investigated by this gentleman and Ann Stevenson are brutal and even though he compiled twenty in a book that was a Beth Selle Eritar, there were actually hundreds of them. There is another story, for example, about Ryan Hammons, which is brutal. And this is the same, as a child who was born in the United States and had something very curious about him when he was four years old, one day he told his mother that he was someone else. The mother is shocked by this story and then, when the child, one day on TV, sees a Hollywood sign, says that that was his home, the parents are super shocked that I had lived there that besides I have lived in a house that had a very, very large swimming pool, and told them the parents that besides he was going to parties with a man who dressed as a cowboy and did magic tricks and so on, and that he smoked cigarettes in a

1:40:06 television ad. The parents were surprised by this. And it' s funny because at school, when they made him draw his house, he drew his house, his dad to him and what he called the other me Wow. This case begins to investigate and in Stevenson too and of course there was no way to know if what the child was saying was true or not. Until in a picture book of Hollywood movies that give him to use the child appears a frame of a series movie B that I had not seen almost anyone called night after night and then the child says look Mom, that man there, I know him and the one next to him is me. Then they investigate because that actor, if he was known, was called George Raft, but he had already passed away. There was no way to know who he was.

1:41:11 And then they turned to a Hollywood film archiver and the guy as they showed him the frame looked and said yes, because that actor practically didn' t know anyone and his name was Marty Martins Vale. They continue to investigate because the child one of the things that made the parents not understand is that as a child he started dancing Claquet. Well, Martin Martin was a dancer. Dancer was a dancer oféloado dancer Deck de tape and in addition, the boy said that he was carrying other actors and that he was such a bad actor that in the end he set up a representation agency. Good for you to have no idea. This was so heavy when Marty, when Eian Stevenson investigated this, he drew fifty- five verified facts from Marty Martins' reincarnation. And I' m going to read this because it seems brutal to me. In total, fifty- five of Ryan' s statements about his previous life were verified. For example, it was confirmed that Marty Martin was once a tap dancer, who ran a talent agency, who changed the names of the people, who had several wives, whose favorite restaurants were Chin Outown, who spent a lot of time in Paris, who had a large collection of sunglasses that bought a dog from his daughter when he was six years old and so on and talked to Marty Martins' daughter and corroborated all the facts.

1:42:50 What a barbarity after this, what one thinks that death is just the beginning of something we don' t know about and before we leave that there in Stevenson had a team of collaborators who, through the scientific method, rigor and thorough verification, verified not only the facts that these people said they had had a previous life, but also carried out checks with relatives or acquaintances if they were of supremely contrasted cases. Juángel. It is curious that in the end what some scientists throw at in cadron is that, well it would not be so much the scientific method, but it would be that of investigative journalism, since the facts are what they are, what they are. Point ball friend of mine conclusions and closing John, which clearly a program like that of today shows us, as we said in the promo of this program, that death, although it is one of the last borders, does not have to be the end of our existences. Clearly, this transmigration of souls that has been in and that exists the other kind of beliefs, mainly from the Middle East Jorge, to me is a reality and above all presents them cases as amazing as those that we have been carrying out in this program And to me can follow on social networks, on Twitter, Instagram and tiktok, in arroba, alevernal prescos, because I just tell them that I do not believe in

1:44:25 death, that we are traveling souls of a multiverse. And what' s more, I think we can travel to the past and we can travel to the future and we can travel from one world to another. And that' s what I expect the day I travel through the grotesque world where I meet human beings in other universes or in other galaxies, to keep telling us stories that tell us about a fascinating world, a magical universe. And never forget that we live in a magical world, because it is full of mystery