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In fact, hello how you are. My name is Juan Jesús Vallejos and

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journalist, writer and director of the
Mystery Night program on Caracol Radio. One

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of the aspects that we are always
most interested in about the past is knowing

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the details of the life of Jesus
Christ, but about this there are a

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thousand polemics. One of the things
I have talked about most is the possibility

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that Jesus Christ would have had children
with Mary Magdalene and that she would have

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arrived in French territory after her death
about two thousand years ago. The fact

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is that about this was made a
very famous novel, which is the code

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David Chico, also a film that
raises this possibility that the lineage of Christ

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would have remained hidden in France for
centuries. This is what would truly be

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known as the Holy Grail, as
the royal blood that defended Christ and Mary

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Magdalene. And there are real facts
that point us to this possibility, especially

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because there was a priest named Berengue
de Soné, who amassed a huge fortune

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after finding scrolls in a church in
France, specifically in the village of ren

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le Chateau. And about that different
books, different researches and a lot of

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literature were made that then took advantage
of d' nmbrown. For their success,

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the Da Vinci code had Jesus Christ
sons Mary Magdalene went with them to

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France, for if you want to
know about this much more, do not

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lose. The last mystery night podcast
on Caracol Radio the Gold of Renz.

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Few characters in history have been as
studied as Jesus of Nazareth. Few characters

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in the story have been lied about
as much as about the life of Jesus

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of Nazareth. To begin with,
for example, they were always telling us

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the story that he was a carpenter, that Joseph his father was indeed a

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carpenter, but Jesus Christ, Lords, Jesus of Nazareth was a rabbi,

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was a rabbi and also followed Jewish
law. Until the day he died.

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It has been lied about the life
of Jesus and about everything that surrounds them

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obvious, for a number of interests. Let' s call it in huge

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political quotes, especially from the Catholic
Church. And it' s amazing that

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about or or one of the most
studied n characters in history, but the

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one I repeat the most, has
lied so much. For example, we

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are told that he was born on
the twenty- fifth day of December,

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but let you know that this was
decided by Pope Oliberio in the year three

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hundred and fifty- four, And
that is that the twenty- fifth day

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of December, which coincides practically with
the winter solstice, was also the Roman

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feast of the Undefeated Sun. So
what Pope Oliberio did is trade one party

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for another. And you don'
t say anything I say to you.

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There' s absolutely no data to
tell us. The date of birth of

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Christ. Moreover, if we see
the Gospel of Luke, if we read

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that gospel, we see that the
shepherds were kept from the cold. Well,

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it must be said that 2,
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in the Middle East, the shepherds
only took the cattle between March and

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November. That' s when they
were shepherding him and going with him for

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several days, the months of December, January and February because of the cold,

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because you can reach three four below
zero, they didn' t take

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out the cattle, so that Jesus
Christ was born not on December 25,

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but in December. It is,
in the eyes of archaeology and history,

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practically impossible. But if we go
there, we' re still out there.

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You think that Jesus Christ was born
two thousand twenty- four years ago,

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which is the date. Year one
a year one of our calendar is

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marked by the birth of Christ.
Well, surely, if you think that,

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it' s easy for you to
be wrong and I' m going

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to tell you why. Because the
one who decides who' s year one,

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five hundred years after he died.
Jesus Christ is a Roman astronomer named

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Dionysius the Exigus. I had that
nickname because the man seemed to be pretty

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small. Well, then, what
this Lord Dionysius the Exigus decided, he

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took the ancient calendar that was the
Roman calendar, whose year one was the

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Foundation of Rome, and decided that
Jesus Christ was born in the seven hundred

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and fifty- three year. But
if we look at the year seven hundred

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and fifty- three after the foundation
of Rome, and we are going to

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see the life of Herod the Great, who is supposedly born when Herod the

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Great is reigning and also kills a
lot of children persecuting him and all this

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well, for it turns out that, if he was great, he died

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the year four before Christ, with
which minimum Jesus Christ had to have been

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born in the four a. C. It' s probably much further back,

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but there' s a lot more
data that' s falsified. For

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example, we are told the gospels
that Jesus Christ crucifies him a few hours

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before the Shabbat the Chavat begins.
Those who have been in Israel or those

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who are Jews know that it starts
on Friday afternoon and goes from Friday afternoon

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to Saturday afternoon, so if it
is Jesus Christ, they crucify him on

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Friday at noon early in the afternoon
and rise early on Sunday morning. Jesus

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Christ did not rise in the three
days, he rose in the two days.

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A whole lot of data that they
do is mess up more, to

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sweep more. How was the life
of Jesus Christ. If we think it

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is true that, as the Gospels
say, when Jesus dies, heaven suddenly

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gets dark, we have two choices. To think that Jesus Christ was good,

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like God' s son and I
think the ground of belief is great.

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All who think that as he died
and was the son of God,

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God was the one who commanded the
firmament to be darkened. But if we

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go to astronomy, the only point
at which a partial eclipse of the moon

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could coincide was the day of April
three of the year thirty- three,

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c which would again command us that
Jesus Christ would really have been born in

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the year one that this Roman lord, Dionysius, the underdog, was right,

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but then he gave it away from
that false one. Someone can take

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these strings off the vine, because
it' s a tremendous mess and I

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don' t tell you if we
talk about the people around Jesus Christ and,

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in particular, a tremendously important person, tremendously important now, because before

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it wasn' t. Mary Magdalene. Mary Magdalene is mentioned in the Gospels

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on twelve occasions, but it is
hardly given importance. But if you don

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' t care, and you'
re an exorcist lady, you take away

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seven demons. And why is Mary
Magdalene the one who goes with the other

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Mary, with the mother of Jesus, until the crucifixion? And why Mary

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Magdalene is the first to see Jesus
Christ risen and tells the apostles and the

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apostles not to believe her, because
the first person Jesus appears to after being

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reborn is Mary Magdalene. The fact
that they say Mary Magdalene was a prostitute

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is Christian tradition. It does not
appear in the Gospels. That' s

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completely false. We should also think
that Mary Magdalene, by her last name,

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was from the town of Magdala,
in ancient Israel, and it turns

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out that Magdala was the capital of
the tribe of Benjamin, where Saul the

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ancestor of King David reigned. It
is then possible that Mary Magdalene was even

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of Jewish royal blood, as it
is a rather important possibility. There are

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some authors who even think that the
famous decana wedding is the wedding of Jesus

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Christ with Mary Magdalene and that Mary
his mother is there obsessed with how everything

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works well and therefore asks her to
do the miracle of bread, wine and

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fish. Then all this I would
say is quite complex. What' s

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more I' m going to read
a phrase from Philip' s Gospel,

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an apocryphal and he says he loved
her more than all the disciples and used

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to kiss her in the mouth.
Often. I repeat, this is from

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Philip' s Gospel and also the
Gospel of Mary in Naga Amad in Egypt.

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It must be said that in Egypt
it is where Christianity is born as

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dogma. Ninety- two years old, Christ the Pantanean moving away. And

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there is also talk of the jealousy
of Mary Magdalene' s apostles and their

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problems with Peter, who later was
the creator of the Catholic Church. And

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it is easy to think that those
three hundred bishops who met in the year

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three hundred and twenty- five after
Christ at Nicaea, and are what they

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decide is the Bible and what texts
come in and what is not. What

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they wanted was to leave the figure
of Mary Magdalene very aside, because they

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wanted a patriarchal church, a church
where it was men who were popes.

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But it is even more so how
it is possible that in the Gospel of

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Mark it is known that Jesus Christ
had brothers and that, moreover, they

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had the sisters, in particular three
brothers, and the word sisters is said.

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And I' m going to read
it literally. What Mark' s

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Gospel says is not this. The
carpenter, the son of Mary and the

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brother of James Joseph Simeon and Judas
are not among us, I repeat the

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brother of James, Joseph Simeon and
Judas. And if you speak to any

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expert in ancient Greek, because the
Gospels are written in ancient Greek, then

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they are traced, they are translated
into Latin some that was the explanation of

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the Catholic Church. They will tell
you no that also ancient Greek the word

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brother could be cousin and sisters,
which is that they were her friends.

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Well, but why, for example, all the mentions to the Apostle James

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that are in the Gospels, always
appears with the word brother. What an

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ancient Greek translator will tell you is
because his brother was the virginity of the

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Virgin Mary, who was always a
virgin. That is a dogma of the

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Catholic Church. It does not appear
in any case in the Gospels or in

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the texts of the time. The
most important person in history two billion Christians

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in the world, and it is
about the most controversies, and I think

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that such controversies is a very simple
thing. An attempt was made to manipulate

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Christ’ s life to create a
whole political structure that could earn a lot

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of money. That' s my
opinion, because if we dive with history

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and archaeology in hand, gentlemen,
the data is clear. Whoever wants to

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hear you hear and doesn' t
want you to. This does not detract

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from the importance of Jesus of Nazareth, a man who, with his words

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and kindness, was able to change
the world. But it' s possible

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that those lies will continue to this
day and that' s what tonight'

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s show is about. If you
have seen the film, the Da Vinci

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code, or read the novel,
you will understand the possibility of Jesus Christ

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having children. It is a possibility
that if we also enter on a historical

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level, to think that a thirty- year- old rabbi in Israel 2,

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000 years ago was not married.
That' s practically impossible. It

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was normal at the time and in
bad is more, he avoided gossip and

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people who criticized him for not being
married. It wasn' t something that

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was accepted in society. Jesus sons, Who it was who really surrounded Jesus

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of Nazareth a whole world of unknowns
that follow today. A man, a

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carpenter who changed the lives of billions
of human beings and on whom he is

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lied to to eternity. My name
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the facts on the table and you
decide what' s behind it and what

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that which is called critical thinking.
Read you, read document and then decide

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that' s the key. What
do you think about everything that was woven

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around the life of Jesus Christ Put
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you and all those who consume this
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the YouTube channel of the station Juan
Ge. Today speaking of a subject that

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became very well known and very famous
in the West following the book The Davina

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Code. Today an investigation that has
a very interesting alternative approach, very conspiracy

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by the Spanish researcher, Luis Tobaas. Indeed, and Luis Tobajas, which

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is the first time he' s
been here on mystery night, I hope

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they are. He went to France
to investigate whether the facts on which the

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Da Vinci Code is based are real
or not. And I assure you that

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your research is going to surprise us, because the plot behind it is more

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spectacular than if the very fact that
Jesus Christ had had children and the interview

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with Louis Bajas ripped out ah Yes, if we look at the figure of

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Jesus of Nazareth, in the eyes
of history, in the eyes of archaeology,

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the truth that it is easy to
think that Jesus Christ being rabbi two

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thousand years ago in Israel, two
thousand years ago? Yes or yes,

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he had to have a partner and
there is also the possibility that he would

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have children. This, I repeat, if we look at it in the

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eyes of archaeology, is quite feasible. However, the character who made it

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possible for Jesus Christ to have children
and see it as a historical conspiracy,

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if we owe it to Mr Dan
Brown and his wonderful novel. I read

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it twice. I loved the Da
Vinci Code, where it shows us this

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possibility, and not only that Jesus
Christ had children, but that there was

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a sacred lineage that was hidden for
thousands of years. And that place,

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moreover, where all this conspiracy was
made would be France, and many of

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you will think. But well,
this is all science, fiction and pure

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fiction. Or really Dan Brown could
drink from some historical source, that is

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sensible, that is clear about this
possibility. Well, then, I have

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to tell you that Mr Dan Brown, I repeat a genius, read me

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novel twice yes, was based on
real facts and on a very earlier book

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called El Oro del rents by author
Gerard de Sade. What this possibility poses

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in a tiny French village called ren
le Chateau. But he who knows this

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very much because he has been in
Rean le Chatov and I am investigating in

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situ this historical possibility, I repeat
fascinating that the offspring of Christ would have

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been saved here in Europe. It' s Mr Luis Tobajas, who has

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a super- recommended YouTube channel where
you' re going to be able to

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have this much broader information. He' s got the videos from the documentaries

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on this isn' t going to
fit all that information today. Here is

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a gentleman I repeat his name is
Luis Coba, Luis Tobajas, who has

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a YouTube channel that is called travel
challenge. But Luis Tobajas, as it

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' s the first time, you' re here on Caracol Radio on mystery

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night. The question, friend is
forced to who Luis Tobajas is for the

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entire mystery night audience and Caracol Radio. How are you? It' s

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a huge pleasure, an honor to
be on Caracol Radio. I' ve

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known this mythical station in Colombia and
internationally for many years. Of course Spain

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has arrived and what I was saying
was a pleasure to be here with my

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stories and my travels. After all, I' m not an archaeologist,

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I' m not a historian,
I' m not a scientist. I

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am simply a traveler, a curious
person who travels around the world trying to

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ask questions about the great riddles of
history, about those secrets and mysteries that

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surround us. And then, once
I go to the places of fact and

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do my personal research, always by
the hand of the great writers, of

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the one researchers who have been before
me, I try to divulge it and

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try to give my vision of what
is seen, what is felt, what

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can be found. Once you visit
the place of events, of those most

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mythical places in the world, of
mystery and I always say so. The

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most mysterious village in Europe is a
small village located in the south east of

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France, in the languedo that the
area of Occitania, right in the area

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of the French Pyrenees called rens Leshateau, or he bound them a village in

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which I have had the opportunity to
be a few times investigating the tropelies the

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stories of probably one of the myths
of the most fabulous legends that, in

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fact, were the germ of what
we would later know as the Da Vinci

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Code, the best- selling book
of the 21st century and which has a

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history that is so fascinating when you
hear it, that it is considered or

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is called level stuar, the beautiful
history or the beautiful history. Now,

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not all that shines is gold,
and what we' re going to try

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here is to tell that beautiful story, so wonderful that it inspired the La

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Vinci Code, but how many people
have been woven through dozens of years around

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this story so that we can finally
discover what it did to a tremendously rich

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and powerful people' s priest.
And let' s get into that because

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even the code of da Vinci Sonie, who is the curator of the museum

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and such is based on the name
of the priest what but I dreamt of.

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But Luis Tú, who also knows
the Middle East perfectly, I repeat

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highly recommended the YouTube channel of Luis
Tobajas travel challenge you open to the possibility

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that Jesus Christ would have had children. We can never say that even gua

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won' t drink. The truth
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gospels tell us, in principle,
we would have to reject this option,

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because they would not have the gospels. Why hide something that at first would

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not have to be problematic, saying
that he had a partner or that he

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had children. Another thing is what
would be normal for the time. Of

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course, a middle- aged man
of thirty would have usually had a partner

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and made you children. It'
s probably what happened. For surely not,

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because, at least if we base
ourselves on what we can see touching

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and proving that they are the historical
texts of the time, there is not

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one of them that even insinuates that
Jesus can have children and be a father,

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which is one of the things that, of course, we see that

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insinuates us the Da Vinci code.
Indeed, friend and now we are going

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to get into the matter already in
that belly stoar that the author Gerard de

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Saden collects and that also inspires the
code da Vinci. The last time I

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looked at it, I' d
swear I' d sold over two hundred

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million copies. It' s okay
to look at the sales data of the

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book and everything starts more or less
tell me in any detail that I'

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m wrong Luis. Please, in
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- five, where a man named
Berengé de sonié a priest of village a

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guy who did not have a brilliant
past nor was someone brilliant. And such

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comes a small village of France called
rem le Chateau. And in a thousand

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eight hundred and ninety- one,
six years later, he began to make

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a series of reforms in the Church
of the people. And that' s

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when he' s doing those reforms
in a church that' s very old,

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the church of the Madelenmal if I
don' t think bad is the

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name. What this lord does is
that good, because he moves an altar

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of the time of the Visigoths,
which is very old, which has two

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pillars and on one of these pillars
appear two scrolls, two scrolls that can

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be seen today in the museum of
the local town of Renle Chateau. In

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other words, these scrolls exist and
supposedly these scrolls were encrypted and told a

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story about the life of Christ.
Everything would start there until we went well,

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or not very well, Luis,
if you go, well you go,

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well, there is something to nuance. That is the beautiful story,

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great features, the curious church is
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You have done it in French,
which is how it has often sounded,

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but it is that Mary Magdalene is
the name of the church And we might

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think well, we already have a
clue. It is in Spanish and in

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fact, it is written like this
María Magdalena, right in the area of

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the Church lintel, well, but
it is not in Spanish, it is

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in Latin, María Magdalena. Nor
should we begin to make such speculations that

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he heard at any time about the
fact that the priest made a trip to

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Toledo and there he had different initiations
and therefore, in homages to this old

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man Toledo, decided to name the
Church Mary Magdalene. It' s not

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in Spanish, it' s Latin. At first it occurs in the Church

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of St Peter, St Pierre,
but avatars that we do not know.

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The name is changed to Mary Magdalene, the Latin ready. He changed that

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name, which is before Sonie came
I sounded again, he says well,

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the Church is made a mess.
I' m going to put some money

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into this and I' m going
to make a series of reforms. Everything

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starts with that moving the two visigothic
pillars of one leaves a scroll. This

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is weird. I do not know
if it is usual for altars to hide

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parchment and what he does is that
he tries, that is, to modify

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the soil of the Church. And
so he pulls out besides this, a

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slab known as the gentlemen' s
slab. And this slab basically because it

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was a little blurry. And so, but you see three gentlemen. Two

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of them seem templar, because it
seems that they are sharing the same horse

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and behind another horse that carries an
object in hand that cannot be glimpsed well

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what is heard from there the Catholic
Church in the late nineteenth century, when

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this happens, investigates the contents of
the scrolls and investigates, say, the

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symbolology of this slab or everything remains
in the hands of the sone berenguet,

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the priest who is there. What
the bell stoaj tells us is that it

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is sanier once it makes this discovery
that, by the way it has pointed

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out the visigothic pillars, And is
that, once after again you read the

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book that reads always puts visigothic pillars
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they are Carolingian. However, in
Gerard' s book of rens gold

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set or later Henry Lincoln' s
own sacred enigma, which was also very

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famous that he had this legal dispute
against the code. The vinci They are

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also said to be pillars Merovingius,
Forgiveness, Visigothis and children. But they

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' re not visigotics, they'
re aroligios. Then we see how,

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book after book begin to copy the
constant error that until exhaustion we have all

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read. And indeed, this slab
that would be found right in front of

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the altar just below, is a
slab that counts, this belle statue that

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benerguer Sonier finds upside down. It
is a different slab from the rest of

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the slabs around it and when it
turns around, because in these reforms of

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the Church it is carrying out,
it has to lift the ground, it

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realizes that the adverse part is the
reverse, that is, that the real

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part, the interesting part is placed
face down, which is just where the

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scene of the knights who are then
mounted on one horse appears as if they

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were Templar another. Looks like he' s got something on his lap and

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he was speculating about maybe a kid, a baby, something like that.

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And indeed, Berengersonier, with these
hypothetical scrolls he would go first to the

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diocese of Carcassón, which is his
diocese to teach them to discuss the matter

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with the bishop of the Pilard area
and this one instructs Brenger Sonier to make

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a trip to France pardon a few
years later so that these scrolls will be

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translated to be decoded. This codification
will take place in Paris, in the

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Church of St Sulfis by Emil Jo
Fet mill Hofet. He would be one

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of the most famous priests of the
20th century in terms of desinc people who

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knew how to decrypt secret codes,
hidden psicodes of the 20th century. Well,

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then, it is just this priest
who says I insist he unsettles it

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in that thousand nine hundred and ninety- one would, therefore, perform that

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translation or decoding of the documents.
Astaí we could stop that translation of the

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documents ready. Documents. Besides,
today you can see yourself swearing in and

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correcting me. If I' m
wrong, I' m not tonrel leechato

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at the local museum. Those documents
say something relevant about Christ' s life

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or they' re not a piece
of the Bible, so they say these

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documents that I think is a little
bit the key, not if they'

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re real or if they' ve
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that' s the first thing we
have to think about, not to

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say those scrolls are real. What
do the scrolls really say, because we

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know what they say. The scrolls
that we have can be read perfectly.

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It should not be borne in mind
that when we access the contents of the

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scrolls today, in some they are
evangelical texts, others they quote are small

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phrases that could teach some kind of
code, some kind of clue. I

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will read you two of them shepherd
no temptation that they are to have have

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the key six hundred eighty- one
for the Cross and this horse of God,

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as or destroyed this demon of the
guardian at noon blue apples. Let

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' s at first no sense,
no and the second paste what it says

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is this treasure belongs to King Dagoberto
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The problem, the problem with these
scrolls is that those that have been

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considered for many real years, we
know that they are forgeries that were made

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in the sixties by the Marquis Philip
of Seri SEEI. And this is serious

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because if the scrolls on which it
is based are shown, as Luis works,

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that it is proven that they are
false, then turn off and let

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us go in this story. But
there I had a plot behind with certain

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Church figures that I assure you is
a soap opera. So don' t

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miss the rest of the show or
podcast according to what you' re listening

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to. We continued with the night
of Rister We were commenting Luis Tobajas as

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the story of Rens' famous gold
apparently, is based on documents that are

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false. But who would benefit from
this if you want to tell us now,

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Luis Tobaja is an interview. He
continues ah yes, he was a

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partner and friend of great protagonist of
this story, of this great montage that

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we will see that he is a
lord but more varied pinto named Pierre Plantar,

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and we will see who this gentleman
is who, indeed, recognized the

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authorship of the contents of these scrolls. So, what was initially considered the

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official content of these pergamins that you
notice curious when you publish the first of

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the books that uncovers this matter,
which is the gold of Rens not on

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the part of turning set He says
that he has had that act, but

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that he cannot point out what the
contents of the scrolls are. Not that

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it' s good that he'
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re investigating. But in one of
the books that will happen to him,

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in a thousand nine hundred and eighty- two, the book The Sacred Enigma,

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there already appears the translation, the
contents of these scrolls, which is

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what we have just seen the famous
text of Blue Apples, and he belongs

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to King Dagoberto II. But I
insist on this I' m quoting right

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now. We know that, although
officially, for a long time it was

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considered at tiptoe feet that it was
the actual contents of the scrolls, they

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are forgeries, that is to say
to see what I sounded in when I

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moved those psygotic pillars. In principle
he did not find any ancient scrolls.

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That would be the key is that
we don' t even know if he

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came to find something or if he
moved something, because today, when we

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visit rens de sa too we visit, of course, the Church of St

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Mary Magdalene annexed to this There is
a place we will talk about, which

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is the house that built the mansion
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and in Villa Bethania, today transformed
into a museum, we see the Caroligio

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pillar. It' s just there, we can see it physically, and

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we see exactly what space there is
to put a scroll in. And the

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space to put in a scroll there
is not more than six centimeters. It

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’ s just that there’ s
nothing there, it’ s just that

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it can fit too little to make
Bible texts, hidden scarred messages. I

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mean, what we' re seeing
is that that little hole is to settle,

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to place the altar perfectly, but
not to hide anything, it'

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s to fit the piece of the
altar. Then, the first question we

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would have to ask ourselves is good, but in reality, nenengelsonie found some

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scroll the answer to what it would
be. We have no idea, we

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don' t know what he found
or didn' t hear. And as

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for the gentlemen' s slab,
where what it looks like at the beginning

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of the right, would be those
two Templar knights and others behind that carry

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something in their hand that we don' t know what it is, whether

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it' s a child or a
drink, as if it were the Holy

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Grail or I know about that slab. That yes there is a clear one,

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let' s say so, that
is, there is a clear archaeological

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dating of what century it can be
or what it really is real and here,

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if there would be no fraud,
yes, well, that slab we

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' re talking about is a medieval
brolsa, it' s one of the

406
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:31.119
Middle Ages. Indeed, this lusa
is in the Museum of Renles A,

407
00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:36.800
the whole Museum of Villa Bethany.
We can see it perfectly. When Berenguer

408
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:40.639
Sonier descends to the place under that
slab, there is like a crypt and

409
00:35:40.679 --> 00:35:46.119
in that crypt Berengersonier will find some
bones, bones there and, on the

410
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:52.000
other hand, a small basket,
an urn with medalites. He says of

411
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:59.440
the Virgin of Lourdes. No more
interpretations than we want, but the truth

412
00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:01.280
is that you don' t see
much either, that is, when we

413
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:04.400
know it perfectly well. The gentlemen, and what is clear is that they

414
00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:08.119
are two men sitting on horseback and
a third one carrying on his lap an

415
00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:13.519
object that we do not know nor
have any idea what that object would be.

416
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:16.519
For you, the two who are
on horseback, it would be a

417
00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:20.199
templar performance. I don' t
know. It is true that the Templars

418
00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:25.800
are symbolized, that is, their
symbol is two knights on horseback. It

419
00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:31.039
could be, but of course we
are seeing that the Templars, in principle,

420
00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:35.800
although they have often wanted to sell
us the idea that they are linked

421
00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:40.639
to the story of Lesato reden.
Beyond that possible resemblance we can find on

422
00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:45.880
the gentlemen' s slab. There
is nothing relating to the Templars to the

423
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:49.639
case of nets bound them, but
notice how curious you have quoted in one

424
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:55.519
thousand eight hundred ninety and one is
when Berenger Sonier performs these works in the

425
00:36:55.599 --> 00:37:00.440
Church, lift up the Visigothic pillar
and discover the scrolls there. This is

426
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:04.320
the story you always tell. It
is part of the bellestoa in one thousand

427
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:08.480
eight hundred and ninety- one,
when in principle it would be discovery,

428
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:12.760
but today we know that the reform
of the Church is not used. In

429
00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:16.199
a thousand nine hundred and eighty-
one, in particular, the bill of

430
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:22.760
the new altar which is to replace
the ancient altar is from the year one

431
00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:28.519
thousand eight hundred and eighty- seven, four years before Seth and the authors

432
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:32.039
of the sacred enigma tell us that
it is when Berenguer Sonier makes the discovery.

433
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:37.599
And that makes a very clear sense. Why. Because both coming from

434
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:42.559
Seth and the authors of sacred lengmas, what they say is that those scrolls

435
00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:45.159
are going to take them. As
I mentioned earlier, Berenger sounded at the

436
00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:51.760
sand Sultis Church in Paris to be
translated by mill Hofet. What happens to

437
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:55.519
a thousand Jofet, to whom you
want to attribute the translation or uncriminate these

438
00:37:55.519 --> 00:38:00.360
documents. In one thousand eight hundred
and ninety- nine years old. He

439
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:04.280
was very young, yes, but
he was already an adult. I could

440
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:07.800
be a priest by now, I
could be there in the world to begin

441
00:38:07.800 --> 00:38:10.119
to unravel things. No. But
it is that in one thousand eight hundred

442
00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:15.400
and eighty- seven that we know
is the date on which we have the

443
00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:19.199
purchase invoice and then altar in that
year Emil Hofet was fourteen years old.

444
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:24.719
Then we know that maliciously, the
authors of both the sacred enigma and the

445
00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:30.719
gold of rems delay the date of
discovery so that it can fit the figure

446
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:35.719
of mill Hofet there in the Church
of Sansulpis. Then, once again,

447
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:39.079
we see how, little by little, a story that is going to look

448
00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:42.480
really good, but that is going
to be very nice, but that somehow

449
00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:45.360
we are going to continue dismantling yes
skating already so you have told me skate

450
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:52.199
through several places. Hey, after
the reformation of the Church one thousand eight

451
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:55.719
hundred ninety- one beergen I sound
like now we' re going to get

452
00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:59.639
into if you have a great fortune, because the guy if he bought Lands,

453
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:05.159
if he made Villa, betan a
mansion, the Torre Magdala, Torre

454
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:09.119
Magdalena as his library, and such
to see this guy sometime later, well

455
00:39:09.159 --> 00:39:14.480
it' s that it' s
very hard to know at some point after

456
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:16.239
that reform of the Church. This
guy really gets in touch with the Archbishopric

457
00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:22.440
of Carcassonne and tells you listen I
found some weird things around here or how

458
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:28.559
his relationship with the Archbishopric of Carcassonne
went after this work he does there in

459
00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:32.719
the Church. Well, we do. Yes, we do, and it

460
00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:37.599
is quite curious, because Bishop Vilar
Hohizo Bilar of Carcassón, of the diocese

461
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:44.480
of Carcassón, was a bishop who
did not often relate too much to people

462
00:39:44.559 --> 00:39:46.159
of bad death, such as the
town of Renlessa Tock itself. At that

463
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:51.679
time, it was of no importance
at all. However, today we know

464
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:58.320
that Villard visited on two occasions three
Les Ato was there twice. What Vilar

465
00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:02.880
paints in a village like Reglessa that
in principle never visited places like this,

466
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:10.119
for they visit in the first place, at the inauguration of the newly restored

467
00:40:10.199 --> 00:40:15.199
church right in the year 1 80
ninety- seven, which is when the

468
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:19.360
restoration of the Church of Santa Maria
de Barcelona concludes, And even look curious,

469
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:23.679
today, when we visit Relesato,
in the courtyard of the church just

470
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:28.360
there is a garden that called him
on Calvary. It is a small mound

471
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:32.719
that resembles Mount Golgotha itself. Well, on this there is a cross and

472
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:39.440
under the cross it is said that
this restoration is carried out in honor of

473
00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:45.840
Bishop Bilar, that is, that
we see that there is a constant relationship

474
00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:50.400
between Berenguer Sonier and the bishoplar,
the bishop of the diocese of Carcasson and

475
00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:54.119
this a principle insist should be strange, because this man did not relate to

476
00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:59.480
peoples like this type of people,
as is his own Tors. Then there

477
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:02.119
was a relationship, of course there
was. And this is very interesting,

478
00:41:02.239 --> 00:41:07.199
because it already gives us hints that
something was there and that, indeed,

479
00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:13.199
we will be able to determine which
solution to this wonderful wardrobe. And then

480
00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:17.960
to get on with the Bell Stuart. Once the reform of the church is

481
00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:23.800
done and sonic eggplant gets in touch
with this bishop, with Pilar and the

482
00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:30.639
whole story, he begins to mass
a huge fortune buys land. This mansion

483
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:37.719
is made, Villa de Tania,
the Tower of Magdala. That cost a

484
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:39.719
lot of money, it didn'
t cost that much money. He also

485
00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:43.960
had a supposed lover who was the
caretaker Mari and I don' t remember

486
00:41:45.400 --> 00:41:47.199
the last name, a supposed lover, being a bit of a particular priest.

487
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:51.519
How was your story. He was
rich, his lover was not rich.

488
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:59.360
Indeed, Brei Berengersonier was tremendously rich. It was tremendously rich. Of

489
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:02.920
course we stopped a priest of the
time and in a thousand years would have

490
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:07.599
spent the fortune with a cural salary
that this man ended up having. And

491
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:14.119
it is that today the complicated thing
is to be able to find out where

492
00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:20.760
all that funding came from to build
the buildings that Vengía Sonier has built clearly

493
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:25.079
what the Bellestoi has always told us
that once Berenguer Soniel makes this trip to

494
00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:30.400
Paris to be decrypted in these documents, he will, therefore, make some

495
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:35.599
visits to the Museum of Louv There. He will acquire copies of some famous

496
00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:38.360
paintings, such as the Pastors of
Arcadia, by Nicholas Usón. We see

497
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:44.000
that this would be the link with
the pergambar I told you before, which

498
00:42:44.760 --> 00:42:46.480
I quoted as they pushed. There
is the key, well, as he

499
00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:51.760
acquires a copy of the archadian shepherds. There he relates to a famous opera

500
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:58.840
singer of the time, Calve María
Calvais, and he returns regal, for

501
00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:06.360
what would happen that in the successive
months will rain huge amounts of money from

502
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:09.760
all over Europe, from the Assburgs, from real houses, etc, etc,

503
00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:15.559
and in this way begins to amass
a great fortune that would make him

504
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:21.960
rich and powerful and that would allow
him not only to finish the own construction

505
00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:24.480
of that mansion, not in Villa
Bethany, but, on the other hand,

506
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:29.719
to finish the reform of Santa Maria
Magdalena. Hey, you' ve

507
00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:34.519
told the pretty story. Now there' s something true about this. I

508
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:38.599
don' t know I don'
t know. Well, lovers can look

509
00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:42.280
for me who' s ugly if
I' m funny, I' m

510
00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:47.079
looking for one. Well, the
point is clear, the one about Lestuan.

511
00:43:47.119 --> 00:43:50.360
Besides, he says that part of
that silver, which I don'

512
00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:51.920
t think is in the data,
is worth that. If I don'

513
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:57.800
t believe it, now you tell
me that I could come from real houses

514
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:01.360
and by sea. There also let
us say a icing of the cake,

515
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:05.559
which is that, suddenly, the
Church gets angry with him and in nineteen

516
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:08.800
hundred and nine forbids him until he
remains at Mass And then we will see

517
00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:12.719
the reformation to the Church, which
puts a series of elements and symbols also

518
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:16.320
that at least or not give rise
to obvious, to think of conspiracy.

519
00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:20.119
Then he got rich or didn'
t get rich. The easy lover thing

520
00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:24.119
that did have her look at you. The judicial processes that you pointed out

521
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:29.880
to learn soy are going to start
three ecclesiastical processes, one in nine hundred

522
00:44:29.880 --> 00:44:31.679
and nine, which will last a
year until nine hundred and ten, Where

523
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:37.159
you will be accused of enriching yourself
by illegally selling masses. What do you

524
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:39.320
mean by selling masses there, they
sold masses all over the world. The

525
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:45.320
problem is that what the diocese of
carcass did not want, is that this

526
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:50.239
man would sell Masses without the diocese
of carcass. How the issue of the

527
00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:52.280
sale of Masses worked so that people
were a little clear when someone died,

528
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:57.239
because if I want to offer you
a Mass for a deceased or, for

529
00:44:57.400 --> 00:45:00.400
my mother, because she is cured
of a disease, I pay a diocese,

530
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:04.360
a church to celebrate a mass in
honor of my family, for example,

531
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:07.000
what happens that the churches of the
largest dioceses used to have a surplus

532
00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:13.800
of masses for many requests and the
small churches of small villages had a defitip

533
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:20.239
of requests for Masses. This was
the case, for example, of Berengersonier

534
00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:23.199
in re Lesato. So what did
you do, Berengersonier, because when there

535
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:28.360
were churches that had excess masses,
I told them, uh, that I

536
00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:32.280
need masses, that I have very
few leave me at Masses so that I

537
00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:35.400
can celebrate them and in this way
you started selling masses. And what was

538
00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:38.480
he doing illegally that if maximum could
be given three months a day, one

539
00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:42.800
in the morning, one in noon
and one in the afternoon, He would

540
00:45:43.599 --> 00:45:49.360
put in each of those masses three, four or five requests, five masses,

541
00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:53.400
he for one at five. Then
we get to the point, for

542
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:59.039
example, that on the 16th of
July of one thousand eight hundred ninety-

543
00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:04.880
two, in a single Mass,
he brought twelve petitions and that is why

544
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:07.920
the course of mass traffic is that
on average. What the documentation tells us

545
00:46:07.960 --> 00:46:13.440
is that this man gave thirty-
six masses a day in August of nineteen

546
00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:19.320
hundred and nine. We know,
because it is all documented, that Berengel

547
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:23.519
Sound celebrated a thousand one hundred and
forty- five Masses, which gave him

548
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:28.039
a thousand one hundred and seventy-
seven francs of the time, which is

549
00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:31.400
a barbarity. So we already have
one of Berenger Solier' s sources of

550
00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:35.639
funding is the sale of masses.
And that is why this first record begins

551
00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:40.159
in nineteen hundred and nine and this
ecclesiastical process is condemned. He' s

552
00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:45.000
sentenced to a month' s suspension, as a priest for a month,

553
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:49.639
and you know what madness. October, November, nineteen hundred and ten,

554
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:54.440
the second ecclesiastical trial against him.
It is blamed you must obey the bishop

555
00:46:54.559 --> 00:47:00.400
and this time the condemnation is a
terrible ten- day retreat in a monastery

556
00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:04.920
to think about spiritual exercises. And
finally, in a thousand nine hundred and

557
00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:08.480
eleven, the following year, a
third dossier, a third ecclesiastical judgment was

558
00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:13.639
initiated for him to clarify what is
the origin of his fortune, because the

559
00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:19.079
facts determine that everything that Berenguer Sonier
has built and cost him the fleborera of

560
00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:23.400
one hundred ninety- three thousand francs
of the time, about a million euros

561
00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:30.599
of today. Not about. Well, because he' s being documented,

562
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:34.880
he' s being made to indicate
where every one of those francs he'

563
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:37.320
s spent comes from. Well,
he' s obviously going to explain it.

564
00:47:38.079 --> 00:47:39.719
Now we' ll see a little
bit about what he' s explaining.

565
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:45.360
No, but all with pencil in
Madame' s donation plan. I

566
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:49.440
don' t know what thirty zero
francs he painted in pencil. In other

567
00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:52.039
words, let us not think that
I had bills of anything and evidently they

568
00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:55.719
tell him that that is enough and
then they dismiss him as a priest.

569
00:47:55.800 --> 00:48:01.239
He is already prohibited from exercising the
priesthood until he returns the misperceived things that

570
00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:06.079
were evidently never going to happen.
Therefore, we see that these three trials

571
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:10.920
take place against him. Hey berengé
sound. It should have been political that

572
00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:16.320
they steal, but let' s
go two hands and see what sound.

573
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:21.760
He didn' t stay behind that
good. If they pay one hundred and

574
00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:23.679
thirty masses a day, I also
give you, uh, I tell you

575
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:28.760
no, I tell you no,
but anyway, listen to what character uncle

576
00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:30.599
that didn' t know. I' d make sure I left, hold

577
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:35.039
on. Hold on because mass traffic
is just the tip of the Iceberg.

578
00:48:35.119 --> 00:48:39.480
Because if you want us to win
a little bit more in funding. Today,

579
00:48:39.599 --> 00:48:44.159
if we look on the Internet,
not, for example, Berenguer solier

580
00:48:44.920 --> 00:48:49.400
postcards come into them all. We
will find postcards of the time with Sale

581
00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:53.119
Berenguer Sonier, with the Torre Magdala, with Villa Bethany, with the church

582
00:48:53.199 --> 00:48:58.760
are task enough behind, that is
not to say he started to sell postcards

583
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:02.480
of his monuments, of those buildings. In fact, the famous village of

584
00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:07.800
the time was not network to the
top Era rens Levan the baths of Rens.

585
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:10.280
It was a town that was very
close to relesato. What Berengersonier was

586
00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:15.719
doing he set the Sonier went to
the village next to Rens Levins to advertise

587
00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:21.239
his people and tell all the bathers
to go to Reglesato, that he was

588
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:23.840
going to teach them his constructions,
he was going to teach them the Villa

589
00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:27.920
Bethany, the Torre Magdala, and
why he gives him a priest with an

590
00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:30.280
artist' s soul. And that' s how it was promoted. And

591
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:34.880
when he brought them to the A
network, Tou sold them the postcards and

592
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:38.360
became a travel agent, but to
the point where when he put the visitors

593
00:49:38.760 --> 00:49:44.400
into the Church of Santa Maria Magdalen
to teach them all the reformation he had

594
00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:47.599
made and those so- called codes
that he is introducing into the church.

595
00:49:50.079 --> 00:49:54.239
He introduces into a village church,
but very small. The Church of Relesa

596
00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:58.760
Toó is a hermitage of people,
but of the smallest people we can imagine.

597
00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:02.360
She' s very little. Well, insert eight brushes, that is,

598
00:50:02.840 --> 00:50:08.159
eight pedro eggs so that people put
their corresponding donation there. Solely eight.

599
00:50:08.719 --> 00:50:12.079
If I go today to the Cathedral
of Valencia, I will find two

600
00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:15.920
or three. We' re talking
about a cathedral of a lady city,

601
00:50:15.000 --> 00:50:17.840
but it' s that in the
Church of Reglesato. There are eight that

602
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:22.760
practically carameter and a half you have
a place to pray. Not to say

603
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:25.440
that this man was a Rockefeller of
the time and that he was smarter than

604
00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:30.679
hunger. He was a scoundrel of
life. It was a foot He was

605
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:31.599
a scoundrel and a very smart guy. Okay. I was really dying of

606
00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:35.960
laughter here with the micropaid so I
wouldn' t get a laugh, but

607
00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:39.280
I was a real good prick.
And then, in addition, already to

608
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:44.960
bring up the curl that the people
who have investigated this topic will have seen

609
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:50.239
those images a thousand times. This
lord, when he makes that reform of

610
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:58.639
this Church, puts the following sentence
at the door of the Terribilises church you

611
00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:01.239
put it. This is a place
of tenor and you come in and the

612
00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:07.159
first thing the guy finds you orders
a figure of a molding, of a

613
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:10.800
demon, as if you' re
really getting into a place that has a

614
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:16.800
hidden message, tremendous why you think
he used those symbols. Luis, we

615
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:22.119
access the church relesato and right on
the lintel when we go in, we

616
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:24.920
have a statue of Maria Manzalena and
just below it, on the lintel appears

617
00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:30.400
that written. Not terrible is locustiste. This place is terrible. Now,

618
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:36.920
this sentence is decontextualized by k because
to the left and right of this sentence

619
00:51:37.480 --> 00:51:39.800
we see that it continues, that
is, there is one sentence that precedes

620
00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:45.960
it and another that ends it,
and the preceding domus mea domus hour and,

621
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:50.079
on the other hand, it puts
hour tionis vocabitur is what comes to

622
00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:52.880
say. Jesus, no, when
he says you have turned into my father

623
00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:55.679
' s house, a four thieves
and on the sides of the arch of

624
00:51:55.800 --> 00:52:00.159
the door tick Domus Day is written. This is by law that it is

625
00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:07.599
that moment when Jacob awakens from his
dream and certainly says this key in this

626
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:10.760
place and I did not know how
terrible this place is. That' s

627
00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:14.559
what' s written there. That' s what we see. What happens

628
00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:16.599
is that, once again both the
gold of Rens and the sacred saying,

629
00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:22.239
they ignore the rest of the context
of the phrase and only puts us in

630
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:28.159
the central part. This place is
terrible and we enter and enter and just

631
00:52:28.199 --> 00:52:32.440
to the left, to the left, we find that pile of blessing where

632
00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:37.519
the demon asmodeo is. It'
s funny that just to the sinister that

633
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:39.800
you left in the place where you
should never be, in a pile of

634
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:45.000
blessing, where we get old.
There is a demon, the demon assmodeo,

635
00:52:45.719 --> 00:52:47.880
the demon who, by the way, is the guardian of the Treasure,

636
00:52:49.320 --> 00:52:51.679
of Solomon' s Temple. What
he is telling us is careful that

637
00:52:51.719 --> 00:52:57.400
you are entering a place where treasure
is kept, for the truth that this

638
00:52:57.519 --> 00:53:01.440
to see the lord as decorator,
was priceless. I' m making you

639
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:05.239
a church, too. There'
s a baptismal pile you see a demon,

640
00:53:05.559 --> 00:53:07.760
because it' s one thing I' ve never seen in my life

641
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:10.079
at all. What do you think
about the change? It' s pretty

642
00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:15.280
exotic. Juan ge full of meaning
and as we are unraveling it with our

643
00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:21.119
friend Luis Tobajas, not only goes
against that belex tua, that official story,

644
00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:23.960
but clearly coming from that, Union, as John said, has a

645
00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:30.360
very particular sense of aesthetics to adorn
a church, was a great guy who

646
00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:35.800
was that he has no bron canfecate. We continue to talk about him,

647
00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:44.400
because many decades after he died,
we continue with the night of mystery.

648
00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:54.599
But I got to sound like a
very particular character, a scoundrel that we

649
00:53:54.679 --> 00:53:59.719
kept talking about a long time after
he left the guy at least smart.

650
00:54:00.480 --> 00:54:05.199
And this soap opera that Luis Tobaja
is telling us, continues ah Yes,

651
00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:09.480
this is what he has always told
us, the bel stoar si do or

652
00:54:09.559 --> 00:54:14.360
the gold of Rens. No.
Now, this really is the demon modeo.

653
00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:19.119
Somewhere she wrote benergersonier or said someone
or the woman who cared for Marie

654
00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:25.679
told someone who was in it was
the demonic modeo. There is never a

655
00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:30.239
single text or one that indicates that
this is the demonic modeo. It'

656
00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:34.679
s twelve for the first time coming
from Seth in his Rems gold. It

657
00:54:34.800 --> 00:54:38.679
doesn' t say this is the
Asmodeo demon, but we really know who

658
00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:40.960
it is and of course, that
it' s not the Asmodeo demon,

659
00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:44.320
who it is. This is what
I' m going to tell you.

660
00:54:44.559 --> 00:54:47.079
That is the theory, supposedly documented, as all I am telling you,

661
00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:51.960
that in the end is to follow
the steps of the major for me expert

662
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:54.239
in this matter, which is oscar
Fábrega and which, of course, I

663
00:54:54.599 --> 00:54:59.519
recommend his book forbidden to dig in
this town where he perfectly details the whole

664
00:54:59.519 --> 00:55:00.760
Renlisato case. Well, then,
it' s not the Asmodeo demon,

665
00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:06.480
which is the statue whenever we see
of relesaton. It' s the devil,

666
00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:09.800
the devil, the devil directly and
why we know it' s the

667
00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:15.880
devil and not another. It always
tends to separate the statue of the demon

668
00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:20.880
asmodeo from the entire sculptural ensemble to
which it belongs, because it is not

669
00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:23.559
an isolated statue. It' s
a pile of blessing that has three bodies.

670
00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:29.719
In one of them the top three
angels appear making the symbol of the

671
00:55:29.760 --> 00:55:32.519
cross and under them there is a
text that in Latin puts with this sign

672
00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:38.880
you will overcome him and below there
is the own pile of blessing and under

673
00:55:39.559 --> 00:55:45.119
it holding it in the back,
the demon, the demon Asmodeo, which

674
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:50.400
has always been said. How we
can interpret this. First of all,

675
00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:53.559
who is this, sir is the
demon of Asmodeo, why Berenguer Sonier specifically

676
00:55:54.239 --> 00:55:59.480
uses this character. The only one
and that is very important, the only

677
00:55:59.519 --> 00:56:01.960
size of the whole law that is
made as it is, on request,

678
00:56:02.199 --> 00:56:07.039
is this one of the statue of
the Smodeo demon or the hair of blessing

679
00:56:07.119 --> 00:56:09.519
with the Angels in the form of
the cross. Why Berenguer Sonier chooses these

680
00:56:10.199 --> 00:56:16.239
particular facial traits that this demon has. A few months earlier, the magazine

681
00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:22.719
of the Diocese of Carcassón publishes an
article where it criticizes the left ana,

682
00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:29.960
the Republic, Freemasonry and considers all
this as anarchy and represents it with a

683
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:36.880
very particular face. Guess which one
with a demon, the monster of the

684
00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:42.719
devil, exactly the monster of the
same devil that we see today represented as

685
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:45.280
demons modify exactly the same. Therefore, Berenger Sonier, we know that his

686
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:50.519
ideas were certainly not republican, but
that he was monarchist. What he is

687
00:56:50.599 --> 00:56:53.360
saying is with this sign, that
is, with the sigma of the Angels,

688
00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:55.960
which are above in the form of
a cross and below in fact,

689
00:56:57.280 --> 00:56:59.719
of them he puts with this sign
he reads overcome s s s s s.

690
00:56:59.880 --> 00:57:04.199
You will never overcome who is just
under the angels, the devil,

691
00:57:04.679 --> 00:57:08.480
that is, the Republic with religion, the Republic, the left, the

692
00:57:08.559 --> 00:57:15.159
anarchy. That is the true symbol
of the demonic modeo that, as we

693
00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:21.760
see, is such, is not
the devil and the true interpretation is more

694
00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:23.880
exciting than what we have seen so
many times written as uncle is not.

695
00:57:24.039 --> 00:57:28.800
And it' s very curious because
he takes Constantine' s phrase before the

696
00:57:28.880 --> 00:57:32.519
Battle of Puentemilvio and with this symbol
he will win and that' s why

697
00:57:32.639 --> 00:57:38.079
he had a Greek cross painted.
Strangely enough, look at that vision Constantine

698
00:57:38.400 --> 00:57:45.519
has. They tell him with this
sine you will win. But here we

699
00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:49.400
see that in the size you put
with this sign you will overcome him.

700
00:57:50.159 --> 00:57:53.840
Constantine, he never told us to
be a levancerás, to win, you

701
00:57:53.840 --> 00:57:55.920
won' t win, well you
will be, but here it is in

702
00:57:55.920 --> 00:57:59.079
that detail. Levens, you'
ll beat him. Here to the one

703
00:57:59.119 --> 00:58:02.760
who is there, to the devil, what madness, man, how crazy

704
00:58:02.880 --> 00:58:06.960
I am hear, how it is
to take a walk, to run the

705
00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:07.760
cható Describe it is a town,
a little boy already today has a lot

706
00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:10.920
of life. I think there'
s a sign that says the forbidden digging

707
00:58:12.039 --> 00:58:15.280
or digging something like that, how
to be a walk around him chatting you

708
00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:17.400
that you' ve been lucky enough
to be out there. Well, the

709
00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:22.440
town of Renglesa is all a town. It fascinates me. The truth is

710
00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:25.440
that whenever I can I go around, because I like this story so much

711
00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:29.719
that I remember a little bit everything
I' m telling on the scene.

712
00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:32.639
Well, that' s a real
luxury. It' s not a very

713
00:58:32.639 --> 00:58:36.599
quiet town. It' s a
town on top of a hill. You

714
00:58:36.639 --> 00:58:39.760
have to go on a night bus, with a car, whatever you want,

715
00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:43.039
not upstairs, because look. Another
thing that was told about the story

716
00:58:43.079 --> 00:58:46.119
of rené sa Ton is that the
priest Berenger Sonier, with that money had

717
00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:51.920
made build a road that was going
to connect the main road with the village

718
00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:54.320
of Reglesa top because he had bought
a car, then in this way he

719
00:58:54.519 --> 00:59:01.559
could reach the village. There was
never any road built by Berenguer Sonier.

720
00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:06.880
There was a project and that'
s written in his journals that he had

721
00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:08.360
thought of whether to do that.
But in the Bela estoag we have sold

722
00:59:08.440 --> 00:59:12.840
that we go that Berenger are not
only bought the car that made the road

723
00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:15.960
that led him to the village.
There has never been that road bought by

724
00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:22.719
Berenguer Sonier. The road that we
are crossing today is a state municipal road

725
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:24.760
that, of course, was paid
for by the state, not by the

726
00:59:24.760 --> 00:59:30.039
priest. And when we agree to
give rules to everything, the first thing

727
00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:34.000
we find is that poster you just
quoted. It is just the entrance of

728
00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:37.639
the village And it comes to say
in Spanish has always been translated as forbidden

729
00:59:37.719 --> 00:59:42.440
to dig in this town. But
the translation would be rather forbidden to dig,

730
00:59:43.800 --> 00:59:46.440
dig in this town. And if
he wants to tell you why this

731
00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:52.559
comic book, because many times if
anyone has heard it, I' ve

732
00:59:52.599 --> 00:59:53.440
always heard it out there that he
didn' t. Once this whole matter

733
00:59:53.559 --> 00:59:59.159
of rens gold was published and so, the Dominicans went there with their shovels

734
00:59:59.159 --> 01:00:01.840
to finish and left the village,
because they made a Bruller cheese to see

735
01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:07.559
if they found any treasure, for
nothing further from reality. We know exactly

736
01:00:08.039 --> 01:00:10.960
when that sign is going to be
put on and why. And it is

737
01:00:12.039 --> 01:00:17.679
that we are in a thousand nine
hundred and fifty- eight, attracted by

738
01:00:17.760 --> 01:00:22.559
the story of Berenguer Sonier, tied
to them a very rich hypnotist, a

739
01:00:22.559 --> 01:00:25.400
Norman hypnotist named Ronaldo Bengue. This
one was accompanied to give tol with a

740
01:00:25.519 --> 01:00:30.400
medium. So, well, they
get there in that thousand nine hundred and

741
01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:35.719
fifty- eight to do their sensitive
research to see if they could see any

742
01:00:35.800 --> 01:00:37.519
history and, of course, they
would discover absolutely nothing. But this hypnotist,

743
01:00:38.079 --> 01:00:43.079
Ronald Domenguer, I omergué likes the
town, buys a house there and

744
01:00:43.159 --> 01:00:49.280
stays there to continue doing his research. Of course, some kids are playing

745
01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:52.079
a joke on him one day.
They know that this man, well,

746
01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:55.119
is an obsessive of the story of
Rens Lisatoon and some kids what they do

747
01:00:55.159 --> 01:01:00.280
is put in a bottle of yellow
paper with the edges that a parchment and

748
01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:06.599
has a text. That pergamiro that
has put in the bottle and if you

749
01:01:06.639 --> 01:01:10.400
follow this map you will access the
caves of the citadel where the power is

750
01:01:10.880 --> 01:01:14.599
found and bury it in the garden
of this man' s house. Of

751
01:01:14.599 --> 01:01:20.559
course, this man ends up casually
finding the little bottle with the scroll that

752
01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:23.239
the kids have left him there to
spend on the joke on that scroll.

753
01:01:23.239 --> 01:01:27.159
Besides, there' s a map
with an x. This man gets there,

754
01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:30.760
begins to dig, begins to dig
three meters underground, there he finds

755
01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:37.079
absolutely nothing, until he decides to
place Dynamite good exploit explodes in pieces the

756
01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:43.760
rock mother of the subsoil and are
projected throughout the town, destroying several roofs

757
01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:49.480
and causing damage. And that'
s why the mayor of the town approves

758
01:01:49.880 --> 01:01:53.320
a municipal decree to ban excavations in
the Lesaton Red Village. Forbidden to dig

759
01:01:53.400 --> 01:01:58.519
in this town ten so much.
What a brute he also dynamite and took

760
01:01:58.599 --> 01:02:01.639
the subseudio and so he hears.
And on the theme of the famous painting

761
01:02:01.920 --> 01:02:07.360
of the Archadian shepherds, which says
etin Arcadia, egon in Arcadia I am

762
01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:13.360
and this painter put it was called
no and put them there nicol opposion.

763
01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:19.079
What about the history of this painting? What do you think of this picture,

764
01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:22.000
because it looks at the end of
forgiveness. In the early seventies a

765
01:02:22.079 --> 01:02:29.239
tomb is located in the vicinity of
A Toques reles identical to the tomb that

766
01:02:29.360 --> 01:02:34.480
appears in that painting of Nicholas laid
the shepherds of the Arcadia. However,

767
01:02:34.639 --> 01:02:37.000
in this tomb that is located it
does not put anywhere Etiarcadia, ego and

768
01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:40.920
in Arcadia I am. But it
is also that, as curious people began

769
01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:45.840
to visit that tomb, the owner
of the land that made it flew in

770
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:50.000
the air, so goodbye to the
possibility of knowing something more about this story.

771
01:02:51.519 --> 01:02:53.840
Of course, what we should think
is that it was inspired uniquely.

772
01:02:53.920 --> 01:02:59.440
The pus are in this tomb to
paint it in his painting, or the

773
01:02:59.440 --> 01:03:04.639
statue designer was inspired by the put
picture it would be. In any case,

774
01:03:04.920 --> 01:03:07.920
between that tomb that calls it the
tomb of Arks Arx is an Arques

775
01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:13.880
locality, it is a town that
is near realaton between that tomb and the

776
01:03:13.920 --> 01:03:19.519
real story. There is no more
relationship, There is no greater relationship than

777
01:03:19.599 --> 01:03:23.599
that possible acquisition by Berengersonier of the
Painting of the Shepherds of Arcadia. As

778
01:03:23.719 --> 01:03:30.960
if Berenguer Sonier knew that in that
hypothetical tomb there would be something related to

779
01:03:30.119 --> 01:03:35.119
the teso and that' s why
he gets ordered a copy of that painting,

780
01:03:35.320 --> 01:03:38.360
which represents in principle the same tomb. What happens that today we know

781
01:03:38.360 --> 01:03:42.360
that, although there are pictures of
the tomb, they can be found easily.

782
01:03:43.719 --> 01:03:46.719
That tomb was retouched, that is, before it did not resemble so

783
01:03:46.760 --> 01:03:52.800
much the tomb of the shepherds of
the Arcadera de colaspu Song is different the

784
01:03:52.840 --> 01:03:54.639
one that was retouched. We see
it' s practically nailed. But beyond

785
01:03:54.679 --> 01:04:00.159
that possible union s benerguer sounded those
walks that gave them by the proximity to

786
01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:05.079
the sea could find some of that
tomb. We don' t know.

787
01:04:05.159 --> 01:04:11.679
Beyond that hypothetical purchase that made the
replica of the pastors of the archalle that

788
01:04:11.679 --> 01:04:15.800
I insist, there appears so much
forgiveness that appears in the sacred enigma,

789
01:04:16.079 --> 01:04:18.679
that is, if it appears in
the most sacred ig. I, in

790
01:04:18.719 --> 01:04:24.920
principle, would put it in quarantine
He hears and what it' s like

791
01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:27.920
to walk around Villa Bethany. How
is the mansion that we were made sonia

792
01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:30.679
bergengues and I am for Magdala.
Your library. Yeah, she' s

793
01:04:30.679 --> 01:04:36.000
wonderful. Villa Betania is a place
I love good. It' s a

794
01:04:36.079 --> 01:04:40.400
small house with several floors. It' s all very palatial. What we

795
01:04:40.519 --> 01:04:44.320
have to take into account, and
this is very important, is that it

796
01:04:44.360 --> 01:04:47.639
has always told us that Bernier Senier
built a mansion, built a palace to

797
01:04:47.719 --> 01:04:54.719
live there with super gardens. And
such not Berengersonier all his life lived in

798
01:04:54.800 --> 01:04:59.400
the Berengerso Parish House in him never
lived in Villa Bethany. And, in

799
01:04:59.480 --> 01:05:02.280
fact, when he is prosecuted in
the process in which he is asked for

800
01:05:02.760 --> 01:05:06.559
the acquisition of all these properties,
for the purchases he has made, what

801
01:05:06.559 --> 01:05:13.519
he says is that Villa Betania was
a residence for retired priests. Now,

802
01:05:13.760 --> 01:05:16.960
you know how many retired priests stayed
in Villa Bethania in all of history.

803
01:05:17.400 --> 01:05:24.119
I' m sure no one I
say in class, none absolutely none and

804
01:05:24.559 --> 01:05:29.880
this is something very mysterious, because
it' s true that in Berenguer Sonier

805
01:05:29.960 --> 01:05:32.159
he didn' t live in Villa
Bethany. Mar also did not live in

806
01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:35.400
Villa Betalia, h lived in the
Parroquial House. It would be the buyers

807
01:05:35.480 --> 01:05:42.880
who acquire Villa Betania after the death
of Berengersonier that is we have talked about

808
01:05:42.880 --> 01:05:46.239
them, but well, very broadly. When Berenger Sonier dies, Marie would

809
01:05:46.320 --> 01:05:51.880
remain the owner of all the property
that was always cared for. It is

810
01:05:51.960 --> 01:05:55.800
always said that Marid was the heiress
of all Berengersonier' s assets No.

811
01:05:55.880 --> 01:06:00.639
Mary was never heir to anything.
Everything was in Marid' s names,

812
01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:04.199
absolutely everything. Then, Mari,
at a time when she is already very

813
01:06:04.280 --> 01:06:08.239
old, she can hardly be cared
for anymore. He makes a pact with

814
01:06:08.320 --> 01:06:14.199
a family around the area and they
are the first ones who, agreeing with

815
01:06:14.320 --> 01:06:18.119
Marin that they will take care of
him in exchange for leaving them in Villa

816
01:06:18.199 --> 01:06:21.440
Betaña property. When she dies,
they' re going to be the first

817
01:06:21.519 --> 01:06:25.880
to live in Villa Bethany. But
no one before them had lived in Villa

818
01:06:25.960 --> 01:06:29.320
Bethany. The truth is, we
see it. Everything, we see the

819
01:06:29.440 --> 01:06:32.679
ibernal greenhouse. There are wonderful gardens. There is the famous Torre Magdala with

820
01:06:32.760 --> 01:06:35.920
the library that today, as you
can climb the roof and take a walk

821
01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:43.119
through the rooms of Villa Betania.
It' s a very nice place to

822
01:06:43.199 --> 01:06:47.880
visit and I insist on Berenguer Sonier' s idea and so he said in

823
01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:54.559
all the judicial proceedings, is that
Villa Betania was a residence for priests who

824
01:06:54.599 --> 01:06:58.519
never inhabited Villa Betania man, but
at least the guy loved his lover who

825
01:06:58.599 --> 01:07:01.519
put a lot of properties and,
that is, if they did their things,

826
01:07:01.599 --> 01:07:03.880
at least he paid well, that
is, he wasn' t so

827
01:07:03.960 --> 01:07:09.599
bad man that I' m criticizing
him a lot. Anyway, listen I

828
01:07:09.719 --> 01:07:14.199
wanted to tell you Luis, when
you have a story so it has become

829
01:07:14.239 --> 01:07:18.599
so famous worldwide thanks to the Da
Vinci Code, especially even if it was

830
01:07:18.679 --> 01:07:23.480
known before by the book of Enigma
Sagrado or the Gold of Rens by Gerard

831
01:07:23.559 --> 01:07:28.760
of thirst It comes if you realize
that it has been built on certain bulls

832
01:07:28.800 --> 01:07:32.159
and this in the journalism of mystery
became an icon. It' s worth

833
01:07:32.320 --> 01:07:38.679
my first time telling me the story
how you' re telling it to me

834
01:07:39.440 --> 01:07:42.159
You' re disappointed You' re
saying I have to tell it. This

835
01:07:42.159 --> 01:07:45.000
is the reality, just like he
didn' t see other places and maybe,

836
01:07:45.519 --> 01:07:47.800
because I say look, because this
is a mystery like the great pyramid

837
01:07:48.400 --> 01:07:53.920
or maybe. We' re exaggerating
here. Or what happens, how you

838
01:07:54.000 --> 01:07:55.920
look, Luis, because you also
know what people are going to get you

839
01:07:55.920 --> 01:07:58.880
out. Yeah, yeah, of
course, look. For so many years

840
01:07:59.039 --> 01:08:01.719
I' ve been in love with
the bell Stoire de renles I' ve

841
01:08:01.719 --> 01:08:04.760
always loved to see you. The
first two times I went to A-

842
01:08:05.079 --> 01:08:08.800
regles, everything was totally unaware of
everything I' m telling you. That

843
01:08:08.880 --> 01:08:13.119
was enthralled by classical history, for
Vingios saw the first of adhesion, that

844
01:08:13.679 --> 01:08:18.800
possible secret society that protected that sacred
lineage between Jesus and Mary Magdalene. But

845
01:08:18.880 --> 01:08:26.279
when you really dig into what happened
with the real documents, with people like

846
01:08:26.399 --> 01:08:29.479
Chaibonet, what a fabrega cara they
have been worried about going there, going

847
01:08:29.600 --> 01:08:32.359
to the record of reglés to everything, going to town hall, reading directly

848
01:08:32.439 --> 01:08:36.319
the official documents of the time,
taking the invoices and with the late ones,

849
01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:41.000
with the real history. You realize
that reality is more interesting if it

850
01:08:41.119 --> 01:08:45.920
is true than what we have always
been told because, for example, you

851
01:08:45.319 --> 01:08:50.319
were talking about the symbolism of the
Church. If you want to get a

852
01:08:50.359 --> 01:08:55.840
little into the Church and we saw
those particular symbols so that somehow it was

853
01:08:55.880 --> 01:08:59.000
always said is that benerguer sonier.
He never revealed his secret. He never

854
01:08:59.039 --> 01:09:02.520
revealed what he had found on those
or scrolls. However, he encrypted inside

855
01:09:02.640 --> 01:09:05.760
the church, with the figures,
with the paintings of Crucis life, with

856
01:09:06.239 --> 01:09:10.640
the very asmodeo keys of what was
inside and what he had discovered between the

857
01:09:10.680 --> 01:09:16.319
leaton notice. For example, we
find the own asmodeo, which we have

858
01:09:16.359 --> 01:09:21.479
explained before. But inside there is
a statue of Mary Magdalene that covers the

859
01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:27.079
lap and somehow we were told good
is that a pregnant belly is being covered.

860
01:09:29.479 --> 01:09:31.359
We keep moving forward and there are
some representations of a via crucis.

861
01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:35.039
In one of the scenes of the
via Crucis appears a black person, who

862
01:09:35.199 --> 01:09:39.720
will not be very normal at that
time. A boy with a scotch skirt

863
01:09:40.159 --> 01:09:45.399
right away. The shadow of the
passerby appears. This is where the station

864
01:09:45.520 --> 01:09:49.359
where Jesus is being put into the
tomb appears. However, there' s

865
01:09:49.479 --> 01:09:54.840
a full moon, which you'
re telling us is either getting him into

866
01:09:54.920 --> 01:09:59.159
the grave or getting him out at
night. On the altar there is a

867
01:09:59.279 --> 01:10:02.039
representation of Jesus carried by the Virgin
Mary. It is a child Jesus with

868
01:10:02.119 --> 01:10:04.720
the Virgin Mary, but it is
that at his side is Saint Joseph with

869
01:10:04.800 --> 01:10:11.199
another child Jesus, and which would
be telling us twin brothers and thus,

870
01:10:11.479 --> 01:10:14.319
hint after hint other indications, would
lead us to some kind of conclusion.

871
01:10:14.720 --> 01:10:19.560
Now, when we take the bills, of how much they cost, of

872
01:10:19.680 --> 01:10:24.640
where they are bought and of what
exactly it is that acquires ber in Gersonier

873
01:10:25.159 --> 01:10:29.039
to adorn, to rehabilitate that church, we realize that the only figure,

874
01:10:29.479 --> 01:10:33.319
as indicated before, that is commissioned, is that of dying the rest,

875
01:10:33.720 --> 01:10:41.039
the via crucis, the statues,
absolutely everything are of serial catalogue, that

876
01:10:41.119 --> 01:10:45.960
is, that there are so many
other churches that have exactly the same life

877
01:10:45.039 --> 01:10:50.159
Crucis and the same figures that rens
sat only that do not have the history

878
01:10:50.199 --> 01:10:56.520
of royalty behind and want has cared
for them at least counted. There are

879
01:10:57.039 --> 01:11:00.800
eight where we can actually see the
same day of the Cross with the same

880
01:11:00.880 --> 01:11:05.600
effigy of the ember Mary Magdalene,
that anyone who wants to see Mary Magdalene

881
01:11:05.960 --> 01:11:08.880
pregnant in that effigy can even see
her. But if it isn' t,

882
01:11:09.119 --> 01:11:12.680
two or three weeks later, it' s not like there' s

883
01:11:12.680 --> 01:11:15.319
a provident belly either. We are
not at a time when the Pope of

884
01:11:15.399 --> 01:11:19.560
the moment wants much more importance to
be given to St Joseph. It is

885
01:11:19.680 --> 01:11:26.279
the year where the Pope issues a
series of reports where St Joseph must be

886
01:11:26.319 --> 01:11:29.920
given more pomp just that year.
What a coincidence that one of the images

887
01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:32.439
we see is Saint Joseph with the
child Jesus. Then it' s not

888
01:11:32.840 --> 01:11:35.479
so weird that we see this kind
of anomalians that, maybe they' re

889
01:11:35.840 --> 01:11:39.800
not, either, because we'
re seeing maybe the full moon in that

890
01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:43.119
image where Jesus is being taken out
of the grave. But what we are

891
01:11:43.159 --> 01:11:47.560
seeing is also the representation of darkness. Darkness appears at the time of Jesus

892
01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:50.880
' death and it is also what
we are seeing there, represented by the

893
01:11:51.199 --> 01:11:58.239
background, by that partially dark sky. Then look how curious. Those clues

894
01:11:58.279 --> 01:12:00.880
we' ve always seen masked may
not be so many, because let'

895
01:12:00.960 --> 01:12:04.880
s see if I' m benerguer
sonier if I' ve found a secret

896
01:12:04.960 --> 01:12:09.800
that has made me rich and powerful. What I do first, not only

897
01:12:09.840 --> 01:12:13.640
encrypted it in my church, but
I take hordes of tourists to see it

898
01:12:13.760 --> 01:12:17.560
and then I sell them postcards where
those same effigies appear is some secrets.

899
01:12:18.000 --> 01:12:24.359
It' s one of the codes
so secret that then I sell and advertise

900
01:12:24.439 --> 01:12:26.880
what I have there so that I
come to everyone to look at them,

901
01:12:27.039 --> 01:12:30.199
to take pictures of them that I
sell them postcards. Or it makes no

902
01:12:30.199 --> 01:12:34.520
sense. But what is curious then
is that in those eight churches there appears

903
01:12:34.760 --> 01:12:41.319
a series of symbol that would also
have a logical explanation, but that they

904
01:12:41.439 --> 01:12:45.439
still have some part of cryptic message. He told me that there is a

905
01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:48.920
crucible that a guy appears with a
Scottish skirt and obviously relates to the Freemasonry

906
01:12:49.800 --> 01:12:55.840
that is born in Scotland, that
appears to a lord of color or that

907
01:12:55.960 --> 01:13:00.840
one can even give some brushstroke of
hearing that Jesus Christ, for perhaps your

908
01:13:00.960 --> 01:13:03.760
brother that good, in one of
the Gospels I do not remember which one.

909
01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:09.960
He is said to have had two
brothers and sisters. In what exactly

910
01:13:10.039 --> 01:13:15.640
the exact gospel says is an apocryphal
gel that thus affinates it. Indeed,

911
01:13:15.319 --> 01:13:21.479
the point is that if we knew
that they were custom made that Berenguer Sonia

912
01:13:21.560 --> 01:13:25.239
said, we want this to be
so, no longer said, but that

913
01:13:25.279 --> 01:13:29.600
we are seeing that these images appear
in the catalogue, is that they are

914
01:13:29.640 --> 01:13:34.119
serial images. So, nowadays we
say the Scottish skirt thing. He'

915
01:13:34.319 --> 01:13:38.560
s actually a boy who has a
mantle that covers his legs, which is

916
01:13:38.840 --> 01:13:44.199
blue dice. Of course we see
a Scottish skirt, because we want to

917
01:13:44.640 --> 01:13:45.520
see a Scottish skirt that I tell
you is a print. And we see

918
01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:49.359
a print. It' s not
to say that if the book is maliciously

919
01:13:49.399 --> 01:13:55.159
taking me on a track I say
oysters, it' s true a Scottish

920
01:13:55.159 --> 01:13:57.840
skirt. But be careful that it' s boxing, that it' s

921
01:13:57.840 --> 01:14:00.760
blue. Claritize the so- called
Scottish skirt and we can say it'

922
01:14:00.760 --> 01:14:05.800
s a mantle. Also then I' ve always thought about this. Then

923
01:14:05.880 --> 01:14:10.119
of course, we have to take
into account one thing, the prior of

924
01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:19.159
adhesion, the prior of pressure,
that we see how it relates the Templars

925
01:14:19.319 --> 01:14:24.239
to those great masters that has had
the so- called priory hesión, since

926
01:14:24.239 --> 01:14:27.239
it is Eduardo da Vinci, Nicolás
Flame Newton, Victor Hugo, etcetera.

927
01:14:28.319 --> 01:14:32.359
The prior of toesion as an association, we see that it is going to

928
01:14:35.479 --> 01:14:43.439
register in which forgiveness to see if
it falls like this, In the register

929
01:14:43.720 --> 01:14:49.399
of French societies is recorded the association
circuit that means this fit, association for

930
01:14:49.479 --> 01:14:55.960
the cavalry of institutions and Catholic rules
of the independent traditionalist Union in the year

931
01:14:56.039 --> 01:14:58.800
thousand nine hundred fifty- six.
Before the year of one thousand nine hundred

932
01:14:58.840 --> 01:15:02.960
and fifty- six, this cino
circuit association did not exist, and it

933
01:15:03.439 --> 01:15:04.880
is a few years later that the
name will be changed. It' s

934
01:15:04.880 --> 01:15:08.840
no longer going to be a circuit, but it' s going to be

935
01:15:08.840 --> 01:15:11.600
called a priorate of sion. And
the only intention that this association had,

936
01:15:12.079 --> 01:15:15.600
for it was good, an association
of knights of people who consider themselves knight

937
01:15:15.680 --> 01:15:20.800
in the twentieth century to devote themselves
to restoring the old cavalry under the criteria

938
01:15:20.920 --> 01:15:25.840
of Christian tradition. For this association
of one thousand nine hundred fifty- six,

939
01:15:26.319 --> 01:15:30.399
circuit is that then a few years, that is, forgiveness in the

940
01:15:30.600 --> 01:15:36.479
sixties, a little before the publication
of the parrot of Rens is going to

941
01:15:36.760 --> 01:15:41.880
become the priory of Zion, whose
great master is going to be a living

942
01:15:42.000 --> 01:15:45.399
man at that moment who really is
the protagonist of this whole story, which

943
01:15:45.479 --> 01:15:54.600
is that megalome that he commented before, he will supposedly plant the living heir

944
01:15:54.600 --> 01:16:00.039
of that royal blood, the legitimate
heir of the throne of Jerusalem and of

945
01:16:00.119 --> 01:16:03.920
Jesus Christ, for he goes who
claimed little astronomer. Hey, I was

946
01:16:03.960 --> 01:16:12.159
gonna tell you what the most curious
thing about this investigation is. Then just

947
01:16:12.319 --> 01:16:17.159
see how my mother gets on,
for almost a great urban legend at the

948
01:16:17.359 --> 01:16:21.840
end around a book that plays with
some wrong data and how easy it can

949
01:16:21.880 --> 01:16:28.000
manipulate us and so on. Or
what is the teaching you draw from this

950
01:16:28.039 --> 01:16:33.000
investigation. Luis, then, the
final surprise is that we have seen what

951
01:16:33.079 --> 01:16:39.319
the sources of funding of eggguer sound
like the masses, the jessu travel agency

952
01:16:39.399 --> 01:16:44.000
that surely found something. I think
he found something. I don' t

953
01:16:44.079 --> 01:16:46.359
know if there' s any kind
of medieval bear that would push him.

954
01:16:47.039 --> 01:16:50.479
We don' t know. He
probably found something, but there' s

955
01:16:50.880 --> 01:16:58.079
a final surprise that could determine the
absolutely key to all this puzzle to close

956
01:16:58.079 --> 01:17:03.359
the circle. Of course, this
is what Oscar Fabrega tells in compendium,

957
01:17:03.560 --> 01:17:06.880
because of the documents that he has
access to, because of the publications that

958
01:17:06.880 --> 01:17:12.039
he has access to at the time
and that, perhaps, he could give

959
01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:15.279
him that piece that lacks the puzzle. Before we have commented that the bishop

960
01:17:15.319 --> 01:17:20.520
of carcass, that Bishop Pilar,
was really quite friendly State united with Berenger

961
01:17:20.600 --> 01:17:27.239
Sonier, but looking curious, we
know that Bishop Pilar that same with which

962
01:17:27.239 --> 01:17:32.319
he had such good relationship. Berenguer
Sonier received an inheritance through a parishioner who

963
01:17:32.359 --> 01:17:41.039
became widowed and divorced, who dies. Then he gives the inheritance, all

964
01:17:41.079 --> 01:17:46.239
this widow to Bishop Bilar, the
inheritance cared for this one two million francs

965
01:17:46.760 --> 01:17:51.239
that would leave in an absolute ridiculousness
to the supposed wealth of Berger Sonier of

966
01:17:51.279 --> 01:17:56.960
one hundred ninety- three zero francs
one comma two million francs, but there

967
01:17:57.000 --> 01:18:00.399
is more. In the year one
thousand eight hundred ninety- six, that

968
01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:08.119
is, eleven years after Berengersonier arrived
there to the bishop pillar he accuses a

969
01:18:08.199 --> 01:18:14.119
journalist in the newspaper le depst in
an article entitled The Black Boxes, where

970
01:18:14.800 --> 01:18:17.560
it is said that the obis pobilar
is accused of putting his hand in the

971
01:18:17.760 --> 01:18:23.800
box of pensions, of the diocese
of Carcoson, where it is told what

972
01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:29.039
was missing the frenzy care of more
than half a million francs. What a

973
01:18:30.159 --> 01:18:34.319
coincidence that, being sunier sonier or
a village priest, that the village of

974
01:18:34.680 --> 01:18:40.680
Renlesa Tov is a village practically of
bad death, Vilard has been twice in

975
01:18:41.399 --> 01:18:44.840
the village of Relesato and that on
top of the Calvary, that is,

976
01:18:44.960 --> 01:18:46.960
the garden of the church of Reglesado
is dedicated to this priest. And above

977
01:18:47.079 --> 01:18:53.560
all, what a coincidence that Berenguersonier
in the judicial process. What he says

978
01:18:53.680 --> 01:19:00.000
is that what Villa Betania has built
is a residence for Jewish priests and that

979
01:19:00.199 --> 01:19:03.880
just what Bishop Vilard is accused of
is putting his hand in the box of

980
01:19:03.960 --> 01:19:10.239
pensions, of the diocese of carcass
and if there was some kind of tejemanej

981
01:19:10.319 --> 01:19:18.159
between these two, and Berenguer Sonier
used part of that supposed. We do

982
01:19:18.239 --> 01:19:23.199
not know if the inheritance that Bilar
obtained, if he stole from the box

983
01:19:23.279 --> 01:19:29.199
of tensions made by Bishop Bilar in
order to first enrich himself and, of

984
01:19:29.239 --> 01:19:33.960
course, to make part of the
constructions that he made could be a hypothesis

985
01:19:34.840 --> 01:19:40.039
and would explain, of course,
all the constructions that Berenger Sonie was born

986
01:19:40.680 --> 01:19:45.199
ern les atom, considering, above
all, that he was not a curo

987
01:19:45.279 --> 01:19:50.680
so rich that all the constructions that
Beren Gorsonier carries out will be updated between

988
01:19:51.119 --> 01:19:58.199
one thousand eight hundred eighty- seven
and one thousand eight hundred ninety- seven

989
01:19:58.279 --> 01:20:00.439
in ten years and that practically both
Villa Bethany and the works of the Church

990
01:20:00.439 --> 01:20:03.479
as the Torre Magdale itself are paid. In installments, in installments, a

991
01:20:03.560 --> 01:20:09.960
rich multimillionaire priest for all these constructions, in installments. Even the works of

992
01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:14.880
the Torre Magdala have to be paralysed
for lack of funding and it is necessary

993
01:20:14.920 --> 01:20:17.880
that the architect tell Berenguer sonier hear
encouragement you suove. With this come we

994
01:20:17.880 --> 01:20:19.920
will continue to pay what is to
end, which is going to be very

995
01:20:20.000 --> 01:20:25.279
nice for someone who has so much
money to spare really has to pay all

996
01:20:25.319 --> 01:20:30.199
this in instalments and with problems.
Cobs is a giant tangle and untangle it,

997
01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:34.079
because it is a complex surgical work, but at least I think that

998
01:20:34.119 --> 01:20:39.640
in this little while we have been
giving a little hints so that all friends

999
01:20:39.720 --> 01:20:43.000
of Radio Caracol can get their theory
out. Thank you so much, folks.

1000
01:20:43.000 --> 01:20:45.600
What I think is that maybe Berengé
sonie was basically the bilar stand,

1001
01:20:45.800 --> 01:20:51.119
and yes, maybe I' ll
pay in installments. But to disguise it

1002
01:20:51.279 --> 01:20:56.399
could also be clear if I am
a thief and I see the language worth,

1003
01:20:56.720 --> 01:21:00.239
it is like here in Colombia,
as we have a certain problem and

1004
01:21:00.279 --> 01:21:01.920
there is something that suddenly no one
is very clear, because they have so

1005
01:21:01.920 --> 01:21:05.119
much money. And they have so
much money. They realized it was better

1006
01:21:05.239 --> 01:21:11.479
not to stand out so much,
it' s better to pay in installments

1007
01:21:11.640 --> 01:21:14.600
and they think you don' t
have that much money. And so they

1008
01:21:14.760 --> 01:21:19.439
don' t put you on,
they don' t put your eyes on

1009
01:21:19.520 --> 01:21:21.680
you, okay, but I think
it' s super heavy Yeah, it

1010
01:21:21.680 --> 01:21:23.439
was the front man of this one. In the end, what benefited most

1011
01:21:23.520 --> 01:21:27.119
was the lover Mari who took a
lot of silver. But, well,

1012
01:21:28.720 --> 01:21:32.399
it' s not a story that
I find super curious. Hey researching what

1013
01:21:32.479 --> 01:21:35.399
you' re traveling so far,
I repeat your YouTube channel, travel challenge.

1014
01:21:36.800 --> 01:21:43.520
You' ve come across many more
stories of archaeological riddles like that than

1015
01:21:43.600 --> 01:21:46.800
when you get there says Mecachis,
I' ve been demoted from all this.

1016
01:21:46.920 --> 01:21:50.079
You' ve found a lot of
stories like that or this is something

1017
01:21:50.079 --> 01:21:55.680
exceptional. It' s really not
that easy to hatch a bulus that'

1018
01:21:55.840 --> 01:21:59.319
s capable of enduring so many decades. Well, it' s just that

1019
01:21:59.359 --> 01:22:02.960
all this bologna, in the end, was plotted by this man that we

1020
01:22:03.039 --> 01:22:05.119
advanced to the beginning of standing up
who' s who. Little by little

1021
01:22:05.640 --> 01:22:09.520
we see that it is going to
be the pickle cricket that is going to

1022
01:22:09.640 --> 01:22:14.720
get into and that it is going
to process certain formation, it is going

1023
01:22:15.159 --> 01:22:18.399
to filter out certain information and documents
to seth the first writer of the gold

1024
01:22:18.479 --> 01:22:23.960
of Renes the first writer of all
this roll of renglessa Ton and we see

1025
01:22:24.399 --> 01:22:27.279
that in the successive years Pierre Plantar
will be the one that will bore all

1026
01:22:27.279 --> 01:22:30.439
this assembly. It has to be
borne in mind that he loses to plant

1027
01:22:30.439 --> 01:22:32.840
that, in fact, in a
trial he had because he was accused of

1028
01:22:32.960 --> 01:22:39.279
having to end relationships with the mafia, he even when he already saw against

1029
01:22:39.319 --> 01:22:42.560
spa the wall, said that it
has still been a montage, that it

1030
01:22:42.680 --> 01:22:45.520
has still been out of his head
and that good that you let him go

1031
01:22:45.560 --> 01:22:49.319
in peace with three topics of relay
to that he was already well, to

1032
01:22:49.319 --> 01:22:54.720
leave him alone because he could go
to prison for a relationship that there was

1033
01:22:54.840 --> 01:22:56.359
between this lord and the magic.
That' s the way it feels,

1034
01:22:56.359 --> 01:23:00.399
no more, no less. And
when you really investigate case like this,

1035
01:23:00.479 --> 01:23:03.880
you realize that the real story behind
the myth is almost more interesting and more

1036
01:23:04.039 --> 01:23:10.840
exciting than the myth itself. I
think maybe Crystal' s keypad was,

1037
01:23:11.640 --> 01:23:15.680
because those for me were one of
those disappointments in principle that I was able

1038
01:23:15.720 --> 01:23:17.640
to get. At first, when
I started the history of Cristal' s

1039
01:23:17.720 --> 01:23:21.239
career, I loved it. I
thought it was true and it seems that

1040
01:23:21.399 --> 01:23:26.399
all that could have been studied archaeologically, almost all of them, as they

1041
01:23:26.880 --> 01:23:30.199
have resulted from practically modern factory,
could not be that. But, well,

1042
01:23:30.920 --> 01:23:32.760
it looks like it' s something
that Michael Hetches did. The thing

1043
01:23:32.840 --> 01:23:38.159
is, that can' t be
investigated. It' s the cool student,

1044
01:23:38.399 --> 01:23:39.840
and I don' t know what
family had it. I don'

1045
01:23:39.840 --> 01:23:42.520
t remember which family had it.
But if you don' t, you

1046
01:23:42.520 --> 01:23:46.359
can investigate. But I don'
t know, man, I mean,

1047
01:23:46.680 --> 01:23:49.960
to see what we spend so much
time on this, so much history,

1048
01:23:50.079 --> 01:23:54.039
this actually, you' ve found
yourself a story that' s a soap

1049
01:23:54.039 --> 01:23:59.600
opera. It' s a telenovela
because in the end here the character Glow

1050
01:24:00.119 --> 01:24:02.479
is the bishop who snaged. Come
on, we were giving berengené I dreamt

1051
01:24:02.479 --> 01:24:04.680
of thirty- five masses. He
took a little money, okay, but

1052
01:24:04.800 --> 01:24:09.000
the bishop didn' t. This
one broke a million two hundred thousand francs.

1053
01:24:09.319 --> 01:24:14.399
Then he stole the box from the
retirements, the priests and so on.

1054
01:24:16.319 --> 01:24:20.680
And he was a dirty fucker.
And usually a crook when he already

1055
01:24:20.800 --> 01:24:27.279
steals so much money. He needs
a series of people around him to be

1056
01:24:27.319 --> 01:24:30.520
able to pull out and disguise people
of trust who in the end often end

1057
01:24:30.600 --> 01:24:34.920
up stealing from him. And in
Spain we have a very famous case,

1058
01:24:35.159 --> 01:24:40.239
which is the one of this type, as it was called Paeza, who

1059
01:24:40.359 --> 01:24:44.359
worked, who had done some things
for the Spanish intelligence services, who kept

1060
01:24:44.479 --> 01:24:46.239
all the money, who stole Luis
Roldán, who was a guy, who

1061
01:24:46.239 --> 01:24:50.319
was director of the Civil Guard and
all say that not thief, who stole

1062
01:24:50.439 --> 01:24:55.319
another thief, a hundred years of
forgiveness. So, well, it'

1063
01:24:55.439 --> 01:24:58.239
s a very dark plot that you
realize in the end. How good,

1064
01:24:58.279 --> 01:25:00.399
then, that the Church as an
institution and as a company, which is

1065
01:25:00.399 --> 01:25:08.319
a company, because it also has
some rather important corruption issues. So,

1066
01:25:08.920 --> 01:25:12.640
look, look, you were telling
me, not disappointments. I was disappointed,

1067
01:25:12.640 --> 01:25:15.720
for example, with the famous pyramids
of Bosnia. We' re going

1068
01:25:15.880 --> 01:25:19.159
to be pyramids of Samos Monavicz,
the sun' s top, the moon

1069
01:25:19.159 --> 01:25:21.640
' s pyramid. Well, after
being there, it seemed to me like

1070
01:25:21.680 --> 01:25:27.199
a mountain and point that at some
point part of it would have been taken

1071
01:25:27.279 --> 01:25:30.479
advantage of for some time of construction. It could be that the tunnels inside

1072
01:25:30.560 --> 01:25:38.840
that mountain are very long. It' s amazing, because they have stones

1073
01:25:38.840 --> 01:25:43.680
that supposedly would have some kind of
magnetic, special energy property, because there

1074
01:25:43.920 --> 01:25:45.479
are blocks of stone that that seems
to have come to say, but come

1075
01:25:45.479 --> 01:25:49.640
on. I went to Bisocoo to
see the famous trequita pyramids of Sarajevo and

1076
01:25:49.720 --> 01:25:54.239
there I found mountains that has pyramid
shape, well, just like if I

1077
01:25:54.399 --> 01:25:57.920
look right now at the clouds behind
me, because I can find forms of

1078
01:25:57.960 --> 01:26:03.720
dogs and I want where or the
sadoquins in my bathroom. Or if that

1079
01:26:03.720 --> 01:26:06.079
is complex, I, as I
have been there, fell to me people

1080
01:26:06.119 --> 01:26:09.479
who have told me about the Bosnian
pyramids of all, good or bad regular.

1081
01:26:10.000 --> 01:26:14.560
He also set up a great good
for people who do not understand in

1082
01:26:14.640 --> 01:26:17.119
Bornia Zegovina for a few decades ago
and is supported by the government of boenni

1083
01:26:17.199 --> 01:26:23.119
Herzegovina, a billionaire who has a
surname that I never get out you will

1084
01:26:23.159 --> 01:26:28.439
win or bug one thing. That' s good, because I started to

1085
01:26:28.479 --> 01:26:30.960
investigate this and so and if some
strange things have appeared, with some supposed

1086
01:26:31.000 --> 01:26:34.920
concrete plates, it' s not
clear if they are concrete plates or what

1087
01:26:35.000 --> 01:26:40.640
happened there. And good, but
good archaeological discussions. There' s a

1088
01:26:40.760 --> 01:26:43.119
lot and look. I don'
t know if I' ve ever told

1089
01:26:43.199 --> 01:26:47.279
you this, Luis, but for
example, when I went to Peru to

1090
01:26:47.359 --> 01:26:53.359
investigate the pyramids of Caral, it
was one of the first Spanish journalists who

1091
01:26:53.439 --> 01:26:57.520
came to Caral Peru that clearly changed
the history of America, because we were

1092
01:26:57.640 --> 01:27:02.960
passing from the oldest American cultures being
chavin to endure 1, 500 before Christ,

1093
01:27:03.439 --> 01:27:06.279
and the Olmec culture in Mexico,
1, 500 before Christ, to

1094
01:27:06.359 --> 01:27:10.239
have to go to three zero.
And it was a professor who lasted many

1095
01:27:10.359 --> 01:27:14.800
years that archaeology accepted that Caral were
the pyramids that were five thousand years old

1096
01:27:14.840 --> 01:27:19.159
and me Russhad out of the interview. Chatting with her, she cried at

1097
01:27:19.159 --> 01:27:24.720
me. You don' t know
how bad I' ve been, because

1098
01:27:24.840 --> 01:27:29.760
all my colleagues, the great Peruvian
archaeologists, hated me because obviously what was

1099
01:27:29.840 --> 01:27:31.680
going to happen to history was all
them. I mean, if there'

1100
01:27:31.800 --> 01:27:36.439
s any way you' re groaning
in history, there' s one in

1101
01:27:36.560 --> 01:27:40.000
archaeology, and there' s one
in all of them, and there'

1102
01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:42.239
s a mix- up. There' s also everything you want. But

1103
01:27:42.319 --> 01:27:45.399
as they were coming to the end
of the interview, I would then like

1104
01:27:45.039 --> 01:27:48.880
to ask you just as you have
been disappointed, for example, in Bosnia

1105
01:27:48.880 --> 01:27:51.119
or you have been disappointed, well, disappointed, no, because what you

1106
01:27:51.159 --> 01:27:55.960
have found is a tremendous exact rengle
soap opera. By the way, people

1107
01:27:55.960 --> 01:28:00.760
who want more information about this Luis
has two documentaries on or on his YouTube

1108
01:28:00.800 --> 01:28:03.199
channel in travel challenge, where he
will have it with much more detail than

1109
01:28:03.800 --> 01:28:08.039
we have been here. But,
on the other hand, there' s

1110
01:28:08.079 --> 01:28:10.119
some riddle that you' ve been
to the lugayan, you' ve said

1111
01:28:10.119 --> 01:28:14.119
milk. This change is, on
the contrary, much more mysterious than I

1112
01:28:14.119 --> 01:28:17.880
had read, for look, for
example, to travel to Indonesia, to

1113
01:28:18.199 --> 01:28:24.359
the island of Slawesi and encounter the
culture of the Tanatoraya. The truth is

1114
01:28:24.479 --> 01:28:28.920
that this is for me the place
that surprised me the most. I'

1115
01:28:29.000 --> 01:28:30.279
d tell you about everyone I'
ve ever visited in my life. The

1116
01:28:30.359 --> 01:28:36.319
island is that of Sulawesi the Céleves. It is a fairly large island in

1117
01:28:36.399 --> 01:28:43.159
the form of a starfish that is
said to be northwest of Valli there in

1118
01:28:43.159 --> 01:28:47.720
Indonesia, and there we find a
tribe that has an absolutely brutal funerary rictus.

1119
01:28:48.359 --> 01:28:54.079
Are they toralla? Is the toralla? They bury their ancestors in the

1120
01:28:54.199 --> 01:28:58.439
rocks, in the mountains, that
is, we find walls on whose rock

1121
01:28:58.560 --> 01:29:03.520
has directly made a hole there they
put the corpse in and then make a

1122
01:29:03.560 --> 01:29:09.840
small balcony and place a series of
wooden dolls that symbolize the one that is

1123
01:29:09.840 --> 01:29:14.119
there dead. They call them tautao
at practically real size. Then we find

1124
01:29:14.479 --> 01:29:18.640
rock walls, filled with little balconites
with wooden dolls representing the dead behind,

1125
01:29:18.800 --> 01:29:24.760
the children, the babies who have
come to be born or who have not

1126
01:29:24.840 --> 01:29:28.239
yet been born and have not tasted
breast milk, the unborn, the newborns,

1127
01:29:29.520 --> 01:29:34.840
enclose them in the trees. Then
they make a hole in the trunk

1128
01:29:34.920 --> 01:29:40.439
of the tree, introduce the fetus
inside and tachon that with weeds, with

1129
01:29:40.520 --> 01:29:45.199
herbs, etc, so that it
is the sap of the tree that leads

1130
01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:48.640
the soul of the deceased, along
with the tree, to the light to

1131
01:29:48.640 --> 01:29:55.439
the illumination. Of course, the
point in the Tanatorallas is that the funerals

1132
01:29:55.520 --> 01:30:00.399
they perform are extremely expensive, because
when someone dies in the Tanatorallas it is

1133
01:30:00.439 --> 01:30:05.880
necessary to invite the whole town and
all the paedanías of the area to the

1134
01:30:06.000 --> 01:30:13.840
corresponding funeral. You have to invite
and invite means you have to pay them

1135
01:30:14.000 --> 01:30:19.279
all the treat that in the end
are both deaths and sacrifices of pigs and

1136
01:30:19.600 --> 01:30:24.000
buffaloes. I was lucky enough to
be at a funeral where several buffaloes were

1137
01:30:24.079 --> 01:30:28.520
killed and about sixty pigs more or
less there in front of you all very

1138
01:30:28.600 --> 01:30:31.600
bloody. And of course, there' s some fun and extreme parties.

1139
01:30:32.399 --> 01:30:38.439
It' s not clear that to
pay for that funeral, for someone like

1140
01:30:38.800 --> 01:30:42.960
an Indonesian, who are very poor, you need to save for a long

1141
01:30:42.960 --> 01:30:45.920
time, you even need to mortgage. What happens if you die but your

1142
01:30:45.119 --> 01:30:48.680
family doesn' t have enough money
to pay for the funeral, what they

1143
01:30:48.760 --> 01:30:54.399
do with the body, inject it
into formul and have it waiting at home

1144
01:30:54.520 --> 01:30:57.640
and make life with it. But
they live with him to the point that

1145
01:30:57.840 --> 01:31:00.199
I visited the house of a woman
who has already died for a year and

1146
01:31:00.920 --> 01:31:06.159
was on the bedside where the husband
slept and for them they are alive until

1147
01:31:06.199 --> 01:31:12.439
the funeral and make- up takes
place daily and puts a small plate with

1148
01:31:12.479 --> 01:31:15.199
rice daily and puts sunglasses on him
when he gives the sun in his eyes,

1149
01:31:15.399 --> 01:31:17.960
so that the dead person, because
he does not give the sun until

1150
01:31:17.960 --> 01:31:24.079
finally they can pay for the funeral. And, well, the dead man

1151
01:31:24.159 --> 01:31:28.439
' s beyond. The most extreme
case I had seen there was a man

1152
01:31:28.479 --> 01:31:31.680
who was waiting twenty years from now, for in his house he was buried

1153
01:31:32.279 --> 01:31:35.000
with the peculiarity that his son had
also died and was by his side also

1154
01:31:35.079 --> 01:31:41.000
waiting for the funeral. So imagine
yourself when you die. The problem is

1155
01:31:41.000 --> 01:31:45.399
that it happens there and the most
particular thing is a ceremony that is done

1156
01:31:45.479 --> 01:31:47.760
once a year, that they call
it the mariner and in the way they

1157
01:31:47.800 --> 01:31:53.520
do is they dig up all the
dead, the launderers change their clothes and

1158
01:31:53.600 --> 01:31:57.640
make a day of coexistence with the
deceased. Then you see the mummy in

1159
01:31:58.039 --> 01:32:01.479
the park with the family. Well, having a picnic day they change them,

1160
01:32:01.960 --> 01:32:04.560
they talk to them and how the
day ends, so I go back

1161
01:32:04.760 --> 01:32:09.079
to the grave again. Not then. That is why it is said that

1162
01:32:09.199 --> 01:32:12.479
the dead of the Torayas are the
ones who live best. It' s

1163
01:32:12.479 --> 01:32:15.079
crazy. And if you see the
pictures, if you see the photographs,

1164
01:32:15.359 --> 01:32:18.840
I have friends who have been there
doing reports, if you see the photo,

1165
01:32:19.159 --> 01:32:21.279
you don' t see it to
imagine. I mean, first because

1166
01:32:21.479 --> 01:32:27.279
they' re very raw, because
the guy' s been injected with formall

1167
01:32:27.359 --> 01:32:30.319
but they' re not professional embalmers. If the dead guy' s a

1168
01:32:30.319 --> 01:32:33.439
little out of shape,' cause
he' s dead, you know,

1169
01:32:34.359 --> 01:32:36.960
the guy' s not fit to
go out and party, let alone.

1170
01:32:38.520 --> 01:32:44.199
And then the rituals are super bloody. I mean, rivers of blood,

1171
01:32:44.359 --> 01:32:47.079
of slaughter, of bulls and pigs. It' s a super crazy thing.

1172
01:32:47.479 --> 01:32:50.319
And the last question to finish.
Then, because to you the greatest

1173
01:32:50.359 --> 01:32:54.760
riddle in the world, more than
perhaps the archaeological in the human, surely,

1174
01:32:57.039 --> 01:33:00.159
although there are also enigmas that today
are unexplained and that to me they

1175
01:33:00.199 --> 01:33:03.479
continue to be and that will be
at the forefront of the world of the

1176
01:33:03.520 --> 01:33:08.399
riddles of history. The Shroud seemed
to me to be about the mysteries that

1177
01:33:08.479 --> 01:33:13.239
cannot be solved all day long and
that to this day it remains an explanation

1178
01:33:13.279 --> 01:33:15.199
and as much as they want to
make us see that the cadaboro fourteen has

1179
01:33:15.720 --> 01:33:20.880
already turned it into a medieval forgery. He has possible anomalies that are impossible,

1180
01:33:21.560 --> 01:33:26.720
yes, yes, correct. I
feel it in the Shroud of Turin,

1181
01:33:26.800 --> 01:33:30.439
where the body of Christ was supposedly
wrapped. And what' s more,

1182
01:33:30.640 --> 01:33:32.319
he' s got a few riddles
and a thousand curiosities. That is

1183
01:33:32.359 --> 01:33:36.520
because, for example, if it
is a medieval forgery, nails should be

1184
01:33:36.560 --> 01:33:41.680
in your hands, not in your
wrists, as countless things appear plus one

1185
01:33:41.920 --> 01:33:44.359
day we do with you. If
you want Luis, when I come back

1186
01:33:44.399 --> 01:33:45.319
on a trip, where you'
re going. Now on a trip,

1187
01:33:45.159 --> 01:33:48.119
I' m going to the Pacific. Well, I' m gonna make

1188
01:33:48.239 --> 01:33:54.199
a route through India, Australia,
Vanuatu, this whole Maori area. To

1189
01:33:54.279 --> 01:33:58.560
look around for some Pacific riddles.
Okay, so when you get back,

1190
01:33:58.760 --> 01:33:59.960
we' re gonna do a show
with you. It' s your favorite

1191
01:34:00.159 --> 01:34:03.560
dinner is worth the most curious,
the five that you see most curious in

1192
01:34:03.640 --> 01:34:09.640
the world Christ comes down, I
repeat your YouTube channel is called travel challenge.

1193
01:34:10.079 --> 01:34:13.119
Dude, your conclusion, your closure, your social networks, and so

1194
01:34:13.119 --> 01:34:15.119
on, because people can follow you
well. Everyone can follow me on YouTube,

1195
01:34:15.239 --> 01:34:19.800
in travel challenge or on Instagram.
Luis Tobajas, challenge the traveler.

1196
01:34:19.920 --> 01:34:25.600
I' m also at Tiktok putting
traveller challenge and conclusion. I think it

1197
01:34:25.640 --> 01:34:30.359
is this not that it is exciting
to discover the mysteries behind the mysteries themselves

1198
01:34:30.479 --> 01:34:33.680
and that when you approach this world
of the great riddles of history, a

1199
01:34:33.760 --> 01:34:36.920
little what you realize and the example
is the case of Regless everything is that

1200
01:34:38.000 --> 01:34:42.640
sometimes the important thing is not to
find answers, but to ask good questions.

1201
01:34:44.840 --> 01:34:46.760
Yes, sir, and do some
research like that you' ve done

1202
01:34:46.920 --> 01:34:53.399
and I congratulate you super recommended your
YouTube channel. Journeying challenge friend brother,

1203
01:34:53.640 --> 01:34:57.760
a very big hug that you will
be very lucky on that trip, a

1204
01:34:57.880 --> 01:35:00.680
cosmic hug Juan Gey and all the
friends who hear us from Radio Caracol and

1205
01:35:02.800 --> 01:35:05.880
in things when you travel and you
can investigate in situ, uh, in

1206
01:35:06.800 --> 01:35:13.199
the books you can find lots of
information, but when you are there,

1207
01:35:13.600 --> 01:35:18.239
you just surprise yourself very badly or
come to conclusions that are very different those

1208
01:35:18.359 --> 01:35:24.359
that can appear in principle, just
like Juan Gey. I believe that something

1209
01:35:24.479 --> 01:35:29.920
evident within the research of Luis Tobajas
was not only the dismantling of some historical

1210
01:35:30.000 --> 01:35:34.079
bulls that had been enunciated on rens
lecha all over the decades, but to

1211
01:35:34.079 --> 01:35:40.520
show me a figure that even becomes
more fascinating. And Juan, that'

1212
01:35:40.560 --> 01:35:43.880
s not a go- a-
go- go- go- go-

1213
01:35:44.319 --> 01:35:46.319
go- go- go- go- go- go- go- go

1214
01:35:46.520 --> 01:35:51.000
- go- go- go-
go- go- go- go-

1215
01:35:51.319 --> 01:35:56.479
go- go- go- go- go- go- go- go

1216
01:35:57.399 --> 01:35:58.520
- go- go- go-
go- go- go- go-

1217
01:35:58.520 --> 01:35:58.520
go- go- go- go- go- go- go- go

1218
01:35:58.520 --> 01:35:58.520
- go- go- go-
go- go- go- go-

1219
01:35:58.520 --> 01:35:58.520
go- go- go- go- go- go- go- go

1220
01:35:58.520 --> 01:35:58.520
- go- go- go-
go- go- go- go-

1221
01:35:58.520 --> 01:35:58.520
go- go- go- go- go- go- go- go

1222
01:35:58.520 --> 01:35:58.520
- go- go- go-
go- go- go- go-

1223
01:35:58.520 --> 01:35:58.520
go- go- go- go- go- go- go- go

1224
01:35:58.520 --> 01:35:58.520
- go- go- go-
go- go- go- go-

1225
01:35:58.520 --> 01:35:58.520
go- go- go- go- go- go- go- go

1226
01:35:58.520 --> 01:35:58.520
- go- go- go-
go- go- go- go-

1227
01:35:58.520 --> 01:36:00.680
go- go! He foresaw a
lot in the end, yes, gentlemen,

1228
01:36:00.000 --> 01:36:01.920
don' t mind us this time
we' re already losing our ball

1229
01:36:01.920 --> 01:36:06.319
a little bit. Well, gentlemen, quite a character, quite a rogue

1230
01:36:06.359 --> 01:36:10.760
indeed, who was able to mess
up the story, so much so that

1231
01:36:10.880 --> 01:36:13.159
today we are still talking about it. Alejandro Barna, your conclusion from your

1232
01:36:13.239 --> 01:36:17.479
close friend, a real soap opera. I filled with conspiracy, fill,

1233
01:36:17.880 --> 01:36:20.439
why not say it, also with
magic, with lies, with intrigues,

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01:36:20.720 --> 01:36:26.119
very interesting the approach of Luis you
Bajas and to me you can follow in

1235
01:36:26.119 --> 01:36:29.840
instagram, in alevernal arroba pres with
s me. What I' m saying

1236
01:36:29.960 --> 01:36:34.000
is that around the life of Jesus
Christ and what happened 2, 000 years

1237
01:36:34.000 --> 01:36:40.840
ago, there are so many unknowns
that there will be people who will continue

1238
01:36:40.920 --> 01:36:46.359
to invent, but not only invent
bulls like this they must sound, but

1239
01:36:46.439 --> 01:36:55.640
invent falsehoods to take advantage of the
figure of the Nazarene critical thought, lords

1240
01:36:55.720 --> 01:36:57.800
read, document and draw their own
conclusions. And on top of that,

1241
01:36:58.199 --> 01:37:01.840
the terrain of the belief that marnavilloso, that everyone believes what reaches his heart

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01:37:01.920 --> 01:37:08.720
and never forget that we live in
a magical world, because it is full of mystery