Sneyder Pinilla habla en el Reporte Coronell

0:00 Good morning. This is today' s Colonel report. Sandra Ortiz is the advisor to President Gustavo Petro for the regions. Before being so, she was a representative to the Green Party House for Green buoyaca of the rope of the questioned governor Carlos Amaya. He is the director of the National Disaster Risk Management Unit Ungre de Snader. Pinilla had announced here in the colonel' s report that a presidential councillor was, according to him, involved in the corruption process of the carrotanks. What I hadn' t said so far was who or how. Today, in an exclusive interview, Pinilla signed that Sandra Ortiz carried suitcases with silver in cash, three billion pesos to be more precise for the President of the Senate Ibanname, within this negotiation of the floats of the guajira that cost the Colombians forty- six thousand eight hundred million pesos. Pinilla made these points and at the same time affirmed that she fears for her life.

1:03 Dr Pinilla. Last time we spoke, you mentioned a presidential adviser, a person who was in President Petro' s first line of proximity as linked to these corruption scandals in the Unit. I want to ask you clearly. That person is the Presidential Counsellor, Sandra Ortiz. If she was the person who was like the link or was the link to the subject that happened in the tankers, she received money from that product of corruption in that matter. She was a messenger to her she was given, that is, she gave her a resource for her to be handed over to a parliamentarian later that parliamentarian is Andrés Calle? The President of the House represents earlier. No. No, isn' t it Andrés Calle? It is the other MP who is among the matrix who leaked as such into the media, that is, the President of the Senate. Iban name that' s how she was the delivery link.

2:15 You say she as a messenger took a resource of how much that resource was. The President of the Senate. They had to give him three billion pesos and she was the person to whom I make the delivery and then I accompany him to a site in Bogotá to make the delivery of the resource were three billion pesos. Cash, six gentlemen, cash, where? Where? How they gave them to you. You guys went to a place in Bogotá. Was he in suitcases? How was that in boxes? It wasn' t in Suitcases. She lives at Lady Sweet' s Te where they' re like residences. One day in the night, I arrive and deliver one part and the other full day the three billion pesos and after there the Teken Dama, I accompany her in the scheme or in the car of the security scheme. That charge and I headed about fifteen of twenty minutes or so.

3:23 I remember for the time and we came to a place and made the delivery, Dr Pinilla. You saw the Doctor were going Name at the time of delivery. I didn' t see him come back and repeat, she was the link. Yes, because, obviously, I wasn' t going to attend directly to myself and the details of the site as such, because they ' re inside what we have, inside the matrix. To make the delivery. There is a possibility, Doctor Pinilla, that you have delivered those bags, that money to her and that from then on, she will say that she gave them to the President of the Senate, Ibaanname, but that she did not give them to her, because she was, let' s say, the person with whom the delivery had to be made. I can' t tell you that or not, because I walk to that building, I get to the basement I deliver both of them, I help him lower his bags to the elevator of that building and later, until ah I get I already tell you you get here, because from now on you can tell yourself and I go out through the basement of that building. And because I already retired because obviously, I went, I was that I didn' t go, I didn' t go by car person, as I say, I was in the car of the security scheme with her. In addition to the doctors Name and Calle, there are more congressmen involved who received money from these

4:57 negotiated in the management unit of risks and disasters at this time, as the matrix that the whole country knew was delivered, We are first, because, with that matrix of collaboration in the other points, because obviously we are still on this issue because, as we have stated, we have no guarantees. Daniel, the subject of leaking the names puts one at even more risk to my life. I mean, today. If it was a complicated subject before, today it became a much more complex subject. That' s why I ' m sheltered. I go back and repeat for my own safety and I ' m sheltered for some other way. Don' t hurt me, because obviously, it wasn' t easy to name the two people who are in the womb, who are congressmen and understand that one also fears for his and there I come back and repeat, as you say last time, I' m not going to kill myself. I' m not gonna do any of that. I mean, I have a family and that was a pretty complex decision. But it' s taken because I come back and I repeat I ' m not going to look like the bad guy in the movie when I ' m just a corner of everything in Granada, Dr Pinilla. Where did

6:28 the money that the doctor brought to Iván Nave come from? Where did this money come from Sandr Ortiz and Wanda, as I say, within what will be explained on Wednesday in the interrogation that we are going to have with the Prosecutor' s Office, because there we are going to tell the details, because Daniel will understand that there are specific details that would have to be given in that interrogation site so that after the prosecution won' t say this interview or the things that we have sometimes said for you. Contrary to what I fully understand, but I also deduce from your words that, in addition to the two congressmen you have appointed, there are more people involved and that this money would come from public resources destined for the business of the carts. That ' s right, that' s right, Dr Pinilla, there' s a version in the judicial circles. He says that you revealed some names, but there is no such thing as correspondence with facts and documentary evidence, and that saying so might be more of a way to ensure you the silence and protection of any persons involved. What do you answer to that? No.

7:59 That' s why I' m telling you that if just saying the names now, imagining the details, they would have finished leaking all the information and, because that would have put my life more at risk, because that' s going to start giving details. They can hinder the evidence I can deliver, they can hinder the recordings they can. They can block the cameras from the different places I was. And so, obviously it can' t be manifested and I go back and say I' m not going to keep anyone behind my back, because, as I did and as I told you in the interview, I was just a list within a grenade that was inside a criminal organization that was responsible for doing this kind of thing with several congressmen.

8:54 In addition, this is a negotiation that is beginning, because I repeat it again only by saying the names were filtered out at once then if I was already beginning to give details. That' s why it' s done or it' s going to be done this Wednesday, that is, if you asked for that Wednesday to do the first interrogation and depending on whether we have guarantees, because we' ll start as such to give evidence and say support for what' s being said and because we' re expected to have guarantees to be able to tell the truth, that that' s what we want to do, to tell the truth and to be able to, so, safeguard my idea, which is one of the most important things, because Daniel, it' s not easy to tell the things that we are in a country where violence, where you steal cell phones and kill them, where so many things happen, and that' s why until I don' t have security for myself, for my family and that I can safeguard it, because obviously it' s going to be very difficult for us to start talking without those guarantees. There is another aspect that has attracted attention within the Unit, which is the supply of yellow machinery. They say all those yellow machinery contracts went with their respective vaccine within the Unit. What do you know about that?

10:20 I' m not going to tell you something that happened in the entity, like the yellow machine. These are immediate attentions on life- sustaining issues. The Unit has, unfortunately, a bad reputation, bad pay. It turns out that, when we arrived at the Unity, the unity of life, almost or almost three hundred billion pesos of yellow machinery, of prodria orders that were made in the past and that has no sp Yes, that from the two thousand nineteen to the two thousand twenty two sum almost three hundred billion pesos and it was one of the things that every fifteen saw did not shelter in the Unity. So if they asked them, then I would imagine that in that period where they were, because they had to make recourse to someone.

11:16 I don' t know about that. But when he comes back and I repeat, when he has immunity, I will be able to tell more specific details of the subject. But come back and repeat, what is speculated at this moment is what is due, because it turns out Daniel, for you to know that they were making orders to produce. Come back and I repeat not on August 7th, the same mediter here, but on August 7th my twenty- three backward made porima orders because almost three hundred billion pesos and they had no CDP is from if they had certificates in a budgetary way. One last question that you are obviously in liberty to answer, yes or no.

11:56 Carlos Andrés Trujillo is a conservative leader in Itagui, but he has had huge votes in La Guajira and particularly in Nuribia. This is another congressman you ' re going to talk about. That will be the subject of cooperation and the issues to be discussed. When we have guarantees, Daniel you will understand that it is a rather complex issue and I repeat, when we have guarantees, we will answer all the questions and questions that the country has, the press and obviously the one we want most to hear us hear than in this case of the Prosecutor, which we hope will be pronounced after the situation we have. Well, thank you very much, Dr Pini, and thank you very much for your conversation with the Colonel report to you, Daniel, thank you very much. And I come back and I repeat and I want to give a message to all the people who are listening to the whole country that if something happens to me or to someone in my family, they will be people who were named in that initial matrix, which was leaked to the media, because that is one of the things that people don' t denounce here in Colombia, because they are the reasons why people prefer to remain silent and I hold responsible for my life and the integrity of my family to the people

13:26 that I named in that matrix of cooperation. Let' s go over who these people are. There is Dr Aname, President of the Senate, there is Dr Andrés Calle, who represents the House and President of the House. There is Dr Luis Barreto, who is the current Deputy Director of Knowledge and who is in charge of which I was in charge. There' s Dr Victor Meza, who was Deputy Director General, and there' s the contractors for the carters. I see you' ve missed one, Dr Olmedo Lopez. Of him you do not suspect that it will happen to him on behalf of the mother. I give the doctor a message to Medio Lopez and he ' s seeing me right now. I invite you to tell the country the truth. I can only tell you that, Daniel. I invite you to tell the truth to the country. Thank you so much. Thank you very much, daniel A few hours ago I spoke to Presidential Counsellor Sandra Ortiz, who denies the claims of Snader Pinilla, whom she said she met in the office of the Unit, says nothing of what he claims. It is true that she does know and is a friend of Ivan Name, but that she has never taken money and that Olmedo López, who was the director of the Unit, did receive ten million pesos last Christmas, but it was silver from her pocket, not public silver, and used it to give gifts to children

14:58 in need here and there. The Presidential Councillor also states that her ten escorts accompany her everywhere and can attest to her honesty. By the way, he told me that escorts also get little gifts. I also communicated with Senator Ivan Name, who initially said that he will not speak until Snader Pinilla spells out his accusations. When I told him that I had specified them saying that he received three billion pesos, there was no answer. On Wednesday, May 8, Snader Pinilla will attend the prosecution' s first interrogation. What will decide if you grant him the principle of opportunity he is asking to rat out his accomplices in numerous irregularities in the Ungred National Disaster Risk Management Unit. There' s a bonus track. The lawyer Samuel Arturo Sánchez Cañón, known as the toilet, because through excuses, dragged his case to the prescription or prescription, was sentenced for bribery of witnesses to the laughable penalty of seven years in prison.

16:06 Home. The sentence itself low will be mocked by the subject, who has five days to peel. Those five days are due next week, Wednesday, May 8. On the 9th at midnight before the Carlas Court can rule on the appeal, the term will have expired and you will be innocent by statute of limitations. The same subject will be charged again on 24 May for bribery of a criminal witness in the proceedings against the provocateur diego chain. This was today' s Colonel report. Thank you very much.