Sneyder Pinilla habla en el Reporte Coronell

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Good morning. This is today'
s Colonel report. Sandra Ortiz is the

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advisor to President Gustavo Petro for the
regions. Before being so, she was

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a representative to the Green Party House
for Green buoyaca of the rope of the

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questioned governor Carlos Amaya. He is
the director of the National Disaster Risk Management

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Unit Ungre de Snader. Pinilla had
announced here in the colonel' s report

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that a presidential councillor was, according
to him, involved in the corruption process

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of the carrotanks. What I hadn' t said so far was who or

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how. Today, in an exclusive
interview, Pinilla signed that Sandra Ortiz carried

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suitcases with silver in cash, three
billion pesos to be more precise for the

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President of the Senate Ibanname, within
this negotiation of the floats of the guajira

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that cost the Colombians forty- six
thousand eight hundred million pesos. Pinilla made

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these points and at the same time
affirmed that she fears for her life.

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Dr Pinilla. Last time we spoke, you mentioned a presidential adviser, a

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person who was in President Petro'
s first line of proximity as linked to

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these corruption scandals in the Unit.
I want to ask you clearly. That

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person is the Presidential Counsellor, Sandra
Ortiz. If she was the person who

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was like the link or was the
link to the subject that happened in the

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tankers, she received money from that
product of corruption in that matter. She

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was a messenger to her she was
given, that is, she gave her

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a resource for her to be handed
over to a parliamentarian later that parliamentarian is

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Andrés Calle? The President of the
House represents earlier. No. No,

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isn' t it Andrés Calle?
It is the other MP who is among

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the matrix who leaked as such into
the media, that is, the President

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of the Senate. Iban name that' s how she was the delivery link.

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You say she as a messenger took
a resource of how much that resource

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was. The President of the Senate. They had to give him three billion

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pesos and she was the person to
whom I make the delivery and then I

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accompany him to a site in Bogotá
to make the delivery of the resource were

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three billion pesos. Cash, six
gentlemen, cash, where? Where?

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How they gave them to you.
You guys went to a place in Bogotá.

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Was he in suitcases? How was
that in boxes? It wasn'

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t in Suitcases. She lives at
Lady Sweet' s Te where they'

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re like residences. One day in
the night, I arrive and deliver one

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part and the other full day the
three billion pesos and after there the Teken

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Dama, I accompany her in the
scheme or in the car of the security

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scheme. That charge and I headed
about fifteen of twenty minutes or so.

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I remember for the time and we
came to a place and made the delivery,

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Dr Pinilla. You saw the Doctor
were going Name at the time of

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delivery. I didn' t see
him come back and repeat, she was

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the link. Yes, because,
obviously, I wasn' t going to

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attend directly to myself and the details
of the site as such, because they

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' re inside what we have,
inside the matrix. To make the delivery.

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There is a possibility, Doctor Pinilla, that you have delivered those bags,

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that money to her and that from
then on, she will say that

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she gave them to the President of
the Senate, Ibaanname, but that she

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did not give them to her,
because she was, let' s say,

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the person with whom the delivery had
to be made. I can'

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t tell you that or not,
because I walk to that building, I

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get to the basement I deliver both
of them, I help him lower his

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bags to the elevator of that building
and later, until ah I get I

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already tell you you get here,
because from now on you can tell yourself

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and I go out through the basement
of that building. And because I already

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retired because obviously, I went,
I was that I didn' t go,

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I didn' t go by car
person, as I say, I

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was in the car of the security
scheme with her. In addition to the

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doctors Name and Calle, there are
more congressmen involved who received money from these

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negotiated in the management unit of risks
and disasters at this time, as the

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matrix that the whole country knew was
delivered, We are first, because,

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with that matrix of collaboration in the
other points, because obviously we are still

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on this issue because, as we
have stated, we have no guarantees.

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Daniel, the subject of leaking the
names puts one at even more risk to

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my life. I mean, today. If it was a complicated subject before,

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today it became a much more complex
subject. That' s why I

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' m sheltered. I go back
and repeat for my own safety and I

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' m sheltered for some other way. Don' t hurt me, because

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obviously, it wasn' t easy
to name the two people who are in

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the womb, who are congressmen and
understand that one also fears for his and

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there I come back and repeat,
as you say last time, I'

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m not going to kill myself.
I' m not gonna do any of

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that. I mean, I have
a family and that was a pretty complex

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decision. But it' s taken
because I come back and I repeat I

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' m not going to look like
the bad guy in the movie when I

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' m just a corner of everything
in Granada, Dr Pinilla. Where did

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the money that the doctor brought to
Iván Nave come from? Where did this

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money come from Sandr Ortiz and Wanda, as I say, within what will

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be explained on Wednesday in the interrogation
that we are going to have with the

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Prosecutor' s Office, because there
we are going to tell the details,

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because Daniel will understand that there are
specific details that would have to be given

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in that interrogation site so that after
the prosecution won' t say this interview

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or the things that we have sometimes
said for you. Contrary to what I

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fully understand, but I also deduce
from your words that, in addition to

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the two congressmen you have appointed,
there are more people involved and that this

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money would come from public resources destined
for the business of the carts. That

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' s right, that' s
right, Dr Pinilla, there' s

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a version in the judicial circles.
He says that you revealed some names,

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but there is no such thing as
correspondence with facts and documentary evidence, and

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that saying so might be more of
a way to ensure you the silence and

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protection of any persons involved. What
do you answer to that? No.

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That' s why I' m
telling you that if just saying the names

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now, imagining the details, they
would have finished leaking all the information and,

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because that would have put my life
more at risk, because that'

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s going to start giving details.
They can hinder the evidence I can deliver,

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they can hinder the recordings they can. They can block the cameras from

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the different places I was. And
so, obviously it can' t be

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manifested and I go back and say
I' m not going to keep anyone

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behind my back, because, as
I did and as I told you in

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the interview, I was just a
list within a grenade that was inside a

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criminal organization that was responsible for doing
this kind of thing with several congressmen.

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In addition, this is a negotiation
that is beginning, because I repeat it

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again only by saying the names were
filtered out at once then if I was

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already beginning to give details. That' s why it' s done or

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it' s going to be done
this Wednesday, that is, if you

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asked for that Wednesday to do the
first interrogation and depending on whether we have

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guarantees, because we' ll start
as such to give evidence and say support

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for what' s being said and
because we' re expected to have guarantees

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to be able to tell the truth, that that' s what we want

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to do, to tell the truth
and to be able to, so,

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safeguard my idea, which is one
of the most important things, because Daniel,

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it' s not easy to tell
the things that we are in a

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country where violence, where you steal
cell phones and kill them, where so

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many things happen, and that'
s why until I don' t have

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security for myself, for my family
and that I can safeguard it, because

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obviously it' s going to be
very difficult for us to start talking without

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those guarantees. There is another aspect
that has attracted attention within the Unit,

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which is the supply of yellow machinery. They say all those yellow machinery contracts

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went with their respective vaccine within the
Unit. What do you know about that?

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I' m not going to tell
you something that happened in the entity,

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like the yellow machine. These are
immediate attentions on life- sustaining issues.

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The Unit has, unfortunately, a
bad reputation, bad pay. It

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turns out that, when we arrived
at the Unity, the unity of life,

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almost or almost three hundred billion pesos
of yellow machinery, of prodria orders

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that were made in the past and
that has no sp Yes, that from

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the two thousand nineteen to the two
thousand twenty two sum almost three hundred billion

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pesos and it was one of the
things that every fifteen saw did not shelter

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in the Unity. So if they
asked them, then I would imagine that

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in that period where they were,
because they had to make recourse to someone.

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I don' t know about that. But when he comes back and

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I repeat, when he has immunity, I will be able to tell more

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specific details of the subject. But
come back and repeat, what is speculated

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at this moment is what is due, because it turns out Daniel, for

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you to know that they were making
orders to produce. Come back and I

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repeat not on August 7th, the
same mediter here, but on August 7th

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my twenty- three backward made porima
orders because almost three hundred billion pesos and

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they had no CDP is from if
they had certificates in a budgetary way.

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One last question that you are obviously
in liberty to answer, yes or no.

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Carlos Andrés Trujillo is a conservative leader
in Itagui, but he has had

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huge votes in La Guajira and particularly
in Nuribia. This is another congressman you

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' re going to talk about.
That will be the subject of cooperation and

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the issues to be discussed. When
we have guarantees, Daniel you will understand

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that it is a rather complex issue
and I repeat, when we have guarantees,

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we will answer all the questions and
questions that the country has, the

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press and obviously the one we want
most to hear us hear than in this

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case of the Prosecutor, which we
hope will be pronounced after the situation we

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have. Well, thank you very
much, Dr Pini, and thank you

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very much for your conversation with the
Colonel report to you, Daniel, thank

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you very much. And I come
back and I repeat and I want to

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give a message to all the people
who are listening to the whole country that

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if something happens to me or to
someone in my family, they will be

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people who were named in that initial
matrix, which was leaked to the media,

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because that is one of the things
that people don' t denounce here

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in Colombia, because they are the
reasons why people prefer to remain silent and

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I hold responsible for my life and
the integrity of my family to the people

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that I named in that matrix of
cooperation. Let' s go over who

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these people are. There is Dr
Aname, President of the Senate, there

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is Dr Andrés Calle, who represents
the House and President of the House.

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There is Dr Luis Barreto, who
is the current Deputy Director of Knowledge and

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who is in charge of which I
was in charge. There' s Dr

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Victor Meza, who was Deputy Director
General, and there' s the contractors

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for the carters. I see you' ve missed one, Dr Olmedo Lopez.

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Of him you do not suspect that
it will happen to him on behalf

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of the mother. I give the
doctor a message to Medio Lopez and he

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' s seeing me right now.
I invite you to tell the country the

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truth. I can only tell you
that, Daniel. I invite you to

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tell the truth to the country.
Thank you so much. Thank you very

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much, daniel A few hours ago
I spoke to Presidential Counsellor Sandra Ortiz,

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who denies the claims of Snader Pinilla, whom she said she met in the

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office of the Unit, says nothing
of what he claims. It is true

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that she does know and is a
friend of Ivan Name, but that she

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has never taken money and that Olmedo
López, who was the director of the

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Unit, did receive ten million pesos
last Christmas, but it was silver from

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her pocket, not public silver,
and used it to give gifts to children

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in need here and there. The
Presidential Councillor also states that her ten escorts

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accompany her everywhere and can attest to
her honesty. By the way, he

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told me that escorts also get little
gifts. I also communicated with Senator Ivan

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Name, who initially said that he
will not speak until Snader Pinilla spells out

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his accusations. When I told him
that I had specified them saying that he

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received three billion pesos, there was
no answer. On Wednesday, May 8,

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Snader Pinilla will attend the prosecution'
s first interrogation. What will decide

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if you grant him the principle of
opportunity he is asking to rat out his

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accomplices in numerous irregularities in the Ungred
National Disaster Risk Management Unit. There'

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s a bonus track. The lawyer
Samuel Arturo Sánchez Cañón, known as the

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toilet, because through excuses, dragged
his case to the prescription or prescription,

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was sentenced for bribery of witnesses to
the laughable penalty of seven years in prison.

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Home. The sentence itself low will
be mocked by the subject, who

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has five days to peel. Those
five days are due next week, Wednesday,

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May 8. On the 9th at
midnight before the Carlas Court can rule

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on the appeal, the term will
have expired and you will be innocent by

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statute of limitations. The same subject
will be charged again on 24 May for

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bribery of a criminal witness in the
proceedings against the provocateur diego chain. This

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was today' s Colonel report.
Thank you very much.