May 24, 2024
Este viernes se toman decisiones cruciales en el proceso contra Álvaro Uribe
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In the WU the Colonel report,
the colonel report that arrives with a very
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important advance on what will happen in
exactly thirty minutes from eight in the morning.
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Before Daniel, congratulations on that good
news from yesterday and forward with what
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will be news today. Thank you, John Paul. It really is a
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00:00:30.320 --> 00:00:35.840
dream day, a day that many
times was elusive and that finally arrived good
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00:00:35.920 --> 00:00:40.679
days. This is the Colonel report. In a few minutes at eight o
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00:00:40.679 --> 00:00:45.600
' clock in the morning, a
new session of the indictment hearing will begin
8
00:00:45.640 --> 00:00:50.600
for former President Alvaro Uribe, as
alleged perpetrator of the crimes of bribery of
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00:00:50.679 --> 00:00:55.119
witnesses and procedural fraud, Judge Forty- four Criminal Court of the Circuit of
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00:00:55.119 --> 00:01:00.759
Bogotá. Sandra Liliana Heredia Arana handled
the first audience with an iron hand.
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She led a 13- hour session, did not authorize postponements or long recesses.
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00:01:07.239 --> 00:01:12.000
He strongly drew the attention of the
parties and the delegate procurator and showed
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00:01:12.120 --> 00:01:18.239
his determination to prevent further delaying manoeuvres, such as those that have prolonged this
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00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:23.760
process in the heads of all the
participants for years. There' s a
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date October seven out of two thousand
twenty- five. If there is no
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decision on the case on that day, the former President Uribe will be covered
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by the statute of limitations of criminal
proceedings. He will not be innocent,
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but neither will he be guilty and
in that precarious condition would end so many
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years of recent evidence and successive postponements. Well, today the judge heredia has
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to make two decisions that will substantially
affect the course of the trial. First,
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whether or not you agree to the
nullity of the proceedings requested by the
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defense. Secondly, it recognizes all
victims who have acted in the initial stages
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00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:08.159
prior to the call to trial.
The two determinations will be crucial to bring
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00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:13.400
the case closer or closer to the
expiry of prescription terms of criminal proceedings.
25
00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:17.479
The application for annulment has already been
invoked by the defense of former President Alvaro
26
00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:24.479
Uribe for two reasons. They argue
that we cannot establish equivalence between inquiry and
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00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:31.319
imputation and, consequently, we must
cancel the act and start over. This
28
00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:38.120
argument stems from the transition from the
Supreme Court of Justice process to the prosecution
29
00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:44.919
and from the fact that each institution
applied a different code of criminal procedure.
30
00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:51.360
Uribe' s defense case has been
defeated before the fourth criminal judge of the
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circuit, who declared that it is
equivalent to investigation and imputation, or otherwise
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the defendant would simply resign from the
Senate in order to annul the proceedings.
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Attorney Jaime Granados then filed a tutelage
with the Bogotá High Court, which he
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also lost. This guardianship was reviewed
by the Constitutional Court, where it was
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also expired. However, in each
of those steps, time went by and
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the case approached the prescription, which
seems to be the real strategy of the
37
00:03:23.439 --> 00:03:28.080
former president' s defense. The
other part of the nullity has to do
38
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with the April telephone interceptions, according
to his defense, are illegal because they
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violate the client lawyer relationship. However, the so- called Aboganster Diego Cadena
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was never a lawyer for the former
president in the process. If the mere
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presence of a lawyer was sufficient to
prevent the use of a crime hearing,
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criminal organizations would simply have to include
a lawyer in their communications to make them
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untouchable. Judicially, this argument has
also been lost by the defense of former
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00:04:02.919 --> 00:04:08.800
President Uribe before the Supreme Court of
Justice, before two women judges who denied
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00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:13.759
the preclusion eagerly sought by Francisco Barbosa' s deputy prosecutors and before the Bogotá
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00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:19.519
Court. In a few minutes,
Judge Sandra Liliana Heredia Arana will have to
47
00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:25.399
demonstrate again about these repeated allegations and
has three options. The first is to
48
00:04:25.399 --> 00:04:30.120
accept them, which seems to go
from any legal logic and would be appealed
49
00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:33.879
to the decision before the High Court
of Bogotá, which would produce a long
50
00:04:34.839 --> 00:04:40.279
period of months very useful to the
defense' s prescription strategy. Secondly,
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the second alternative is to make a
thorough statement on those arguments. By denying
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00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:54.160
this statement of substance it would end
up being reviewed by the Tribunal and the
53
00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:56.600
time again acting in favour of the
statute of limitations sought by the former President
54
00:04:56.600 --> 00:05:01.839
' s bench. The third option
is to deny it outright a decision on
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00:05:01.920 --> 00:05:08.439
which no recourse would operate and to
close the transition to delaying strategy. As
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00:05:08.439 --> 00:05:12.639
for the recognition of the victims.
The judge may deny this status to some
57
00:05:12.680 --> 00:05:16.839
of the persons who have been provisionally
accepted in the previous instances. Senator Iván
58
00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:21.800
sepeda Janira Gómez' s doctor as
the wife of witness Juan Guillermo monsalve Or
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00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:28.800
the sex prosecutors general Eduardo Montealegri and
Jorge Perdón. If such a decision contrary
60
00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:32.240
to the alleged victims occurred, it
would have to be examined by the Bogotá
61
00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:39.240
Court. But unlike nullity, the
process could move forward as long as the
62
00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:45.480
Court decides. Another of today'
s highlights is the intervention of former President
63
00:05:45.759 --> 00:05:49.480
Alvaro Uribe, who has been publishing
videos with his unbiased version of the facts,
64
00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:56.800
insulting judges and witnesses and opposing the
evidence. The former President has asked
65
00:05:56.879 --> 00:06:01.439
the judge to speak in a voice
of the material defense wave. Although it
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00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:09.439
is debatable that she can intervene procedurally
at this time, the judge decided to
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00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:14.720
grant her that right in all confidence. The participation of the only former president
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prosecuted for criminal charges in the history
of Colombia will not be indifferent if the
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00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:26.120
judge denies everything requested and repeatedly discarded
in other judicial instances. The next step
70
00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:30.439
will be the pre- trial hearing
of the subyu says former President. This
71
00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:32.879
was today' s Colonel report.
Thank you very much.
1
00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:09.359
In the WU the Colonel report,
the colonel report that arrives with a very
2
00:00:09.880 --> 00:00:16.679
important advance on what will happen in
exactly thirty minutes from eight in the morning.
3
00:00:18.039 --> 00:00:23.800
Before Daniel, congratulations on that good
news from yesterday and forward with what
4
00:00:23.839 --> 00:00:29.960
will be news today. Thank you, John Paul. It really is a
5
00:00:30.320 --> 00:00:35.840
dream day, a day that many
times was elusive and that finally arrived good
6
00:00:35.920 --> 00:00:40.679
days. This is the Colonel report. In a few minutes at eight o
7
00:00:40.679 --> 00:00:45.600
' clock in the morning, a
new session of the indictment hearing will begin
8
00:00:45.640 --> 00:00:50.600
for former President Alvaro Uribe, as
alleged perpetrator of the crimes of bribery of
9
00:00:50.679 --> 00:00:55.119
witnesses and procedural fraud, Judge Forty- four Criminal Court of the Circuit of
10
00:00:55.119 --> 00:01:00.759
Bogotá. Sandra Liliana Heredia Arana handled
the first audience with an iron hand.
11
00:01:00.520 --> 00:01:06.760
She led a 13- hour session, did not authorize postponements or long recesses.
12
00:01:07.239 --> 00:01:12.000
He strongly drew the attention of the
parties and the delegate procurator and showed
13
00:01:12.120 --> 00:01:18.239
his determination to prevent further delaying manoeuvres, such as those that have prolonged this
14
00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:23.760
process in the heads of all the
participants for years. There' s a
15
00:01:23.959 --> 00:01:27.239
date October seven out of two thousand
twenty- five. If there is no
16
00:01:27.239 --> 00:01:32.359
decision on the case on that day, the former President Uribe will be covered
17
00:01:32.439 --> 00:01:36.959
by the statute of limitations of criminal
proceedings. He will not be innocent,
18
00:01:37.480 --> 00:01:45.239
but neither will he be guilty and
in that precarious condition would end so many
19
00:01:45.239 --> 00:01:48.120
years of recent evidence and successive postponements. Well, today the judge heredia has
20
00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:53.799
to make two decisions that will substantially
affect the course of the trial. First,
21
00:01:53.200 --> 00:01:57.599
whether or not you agree to the
nullity of the proceedings requested by the
22
00:01:57.599 --> 00:02:01.000
defense. Secondly, it recognizes all
victims who have acted in the initial stages
23
00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:08.159
prior to the call to trial.
The two determinations will be crucial to bring
24
00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:13.400
the case closer or closer to the
expiry of prescription terms of criminal proceedings.
25
00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:17.479
The application for annulment has already been
invoked by the defense of former President Alvaro
26
00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:24.479
Uribe for two reasons. They argue
that we cannot establish equivalence between inquiry and
27
00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:31.319
imputation and, consequently, we must
cancel the act and start over. This
28
00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:38.120
argument stems from the transition from the
Supreme Court of Justice process to the prosecution
29
00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:44.919
and from the fact that each institution
applied a different code of criminal procedure.
30
00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:51.360
Uribe' s defense case has been
defeated before the fourth criminal judge of the
31
00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:55.400
circuit, who declared that it is
equivalent to investigation and imputation, or otherwise
32
00:02:55.479 --> 00:03:00.000
the defendant would simply resign from the
Senate in order to annul the proceedings.
33
00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:07.319
Attorney Jaime Granados then filed a tutelage
with the Bogotá High Court, which he
34
00:03:07.759 --> 00:03:12.960
also lost. This guardianship was reviewed
by the Constitutional Court, where it was
35
00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:16.960
also expired. However, in each
of those steps, time went by and
36
00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:23.400
the case approached the prescription, which
seems to be the real strategy of the
37
00:03:23.439 --> 00:03:28.080
former president' s defense. The
other part of the nullity has to do
38
00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:34.479
with the April telephone interceptions, according
to his defense, are illegal because they
39
00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:39.039
violate the client lawyer relationship. However, the so- called Aboganster Diego Cadena
40
00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:44.759
was never a lawyer for the former
president in the process. If the mere
41
00:03:44.840 --> 00:03:50.039
presence of a lawyer was sufficient to
prevent the use of a crime hearing,
42
00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:57.400
criminal organizations would simply have to include
a lawyer in their communications to make them
43
00:03:57.639 --> 00:04:02.479
untouchable. Judicially, this argument has
also been lost by the defense of former
44
00:04:02.919 --> 00:04:08.800
President Uribe before the Supreme Court of
Justice, before two women judges who denied
45
00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:13.759
the preclusion eagerly sought by Francisco Barbosa' s deputy prosecutors and before the Bogotá
46
00:04:13.759 --> 00:04:19.519
Court. In a few minutes,
Judge Sandra Liliana Heredia Arana will have to
47
00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:25.399
demonstrate again about these repeated allegations and
has three options. The first is to
48
00:04:25.399 --> 00:04:30.120
accept them, which seems to go
from any legal logic and would be appealed
49
00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:33.879
to the decision before the High Court
of Bogotá, which would produce a long
50
00:04:34.839 --> 00:04:40.279
period of months very useful to the
defense' s prescription strategy. Secondly,
51
00:04:40.759 --> 00:04:46.439
the second alternative is to make a
thorough statement on those arguments. By denying
52
00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:54.160
this statement of substance it would end
up being reviewed by the Tribunal and the
53
00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:56.600
time again acting in favour of the
statute of limitations sought by the former President
54
00:04:56.600 --> 00:05:01.839
' s bench. The third option
is to deny it outright a decision on
55
00:05:01.920 --> 00:05:08.439
which no recourse would operate and to
close the transition to delaying strategy. As
56
00:05:08.439 --> 00:05:12.639
for the recognition of the victims.
The judge may deny this status to some
57
00:05:12.680 --> 00:05:16.839
of the persons who have been provisionally
accepted in the previous instances. Senator Iván
58
00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:21.800
sepeda Janira Gómez' s doctor as
the wife of witness Juan Guillermo monsalve Or
59
00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:28.800
the sex prosecutors general Eduardo Montealegri and
Jorge Perdón. If such a decision contrary
60
00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:32.240
to the alleged victims occurred, it
would have to be examined by the Bogotá
61
00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:39.240
Court. But unlike nullity, the
process could move forward as long as the
62
00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:45.480
Court decides. Another of today'
s highlights is the intervention of former President
63
00:05:45.759 --> 00:05:49.480
Alvaro Uribe, who has been publishing
videos with his unbiased version of the facts,
64
00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:56.800
insulting judges and witnesses and opposing the
evidence. The former President has asked
65
00:05:56.879 --> 00:06:01.439
the judge to speak in a voice
of the material defense wave. Although it
66
00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:09.439
is debatable that she can intervene procedurally
at this time, the judge decided to
67
00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:14.720
grant her that right in all confidence. The participation of the only former president
68
00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:19.319
prosecuted for criminal charges in the history
of Colombia will not be indifferent if the
69
00:06:19.519 --> 00:06:26.120
judge denies everything requested and repeatedly discarded
in other judicial instances. The next step
70
00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:30.439
will be the pre- trial hearing
of the subyu says former President. This
71
00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:32.879
was today' s Colonel report.
Thank you very much.
