Entrevista abogado Santiago Morales

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In the u- report Colonel Daniera
forward good morning July. This is the

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Colonel report. Last Friday before the
Council of State, a tutelage action was

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filed against President Gustavo Petro and the
Attorney General' s Office for violation of

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fundamental rights, access to the administration
of justice and due process, among others.

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The tutor is the lawyer and former
congressman Santiago Morales, who has been

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denouncing what he considers to be acts
of corruption in the superintendency of societies.

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According to him, the rules in
the selection and appointment of promoters, financial

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controllers and liquidators of companies that are
auxiliary to the justice system and in the

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allocation of the number of processes per
liquidator that, according to the interpretation of

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the complainant, exceed the limits established
by law and the rules that regulate it.

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Morales says that there is a small
group of liquidators favored with these alleged

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and regularities, who choose to abuse
an extraordinary faculty of super companies and end

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up receiving fees for billions of pesos. The documents supporting this complaint were submitted

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in September of last year to the
Transparency Secretariat of the Presidency of the Republic,

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but nine months later they have not
been sent to the control centers,

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as required by law. On the
other hand, according to the guardianship action,

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the complaint and the identity of the
complainant were leaked to those alleged to

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be responsible for the conduct. The
tutelage is also addressed to the Attorney General

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' s Office, because according to
lawyer Morales, he filed a formal complaint

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three weeks ago and so far he
has not been assigned a single number of

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criminal news. The lawyer points out
that what, according to him, is

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happening in the super companies affects thousands
of people who are shareholders, representatives,

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legal or creditors of societies as well
known as the Route of the Sun two

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axis of the Hebrew scandal. Among
the victims of this case is the family

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of Jorge Enrique Pisano, who died
in circumstances never clarified by an independent authority,

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and the DMG group, which is
the pyramid David Murcia Guzmán, whose

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victims thousands do not receive compensation.
Many years later,ÉIT International group that

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starred in the freedom scandal a year
ago, where the savings of more than

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ten zero people disappeared. Besting Group
of Colombia, also involved in the issue

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of pounding, where more than a
billion pesos were added. At this time

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we have contact with the lawyer Santiago
Morales, to whom we say good morning,

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very good morning, Daniel to the
work table and the two listener Doctor

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Morales. Please explain in the simplest
and most brief way what are the irregularities

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that, according to you, has
been committed by the Superintendency of Societies.

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Well as a legal context, Law
eleven sixteen out of two thousand six states

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very clearly that an assistant of the
justice system, namely liquidators, promoters and

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interveners, have the right to have
under their maximum total management three processes of

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liquidation of a case of the organizations, as promoters and as interveners. What

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we see at this moment is that
there has been a rigged interpretation by the

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superintendence of society. There are liquidators
who have up to six processes, with

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the express approval of the superintendency,
and there are others who can have ten,

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eleven, twelve and up to thirteen. As you very well pointed out,

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a liquidator, an auxiliary of justice, can receive, receive for fees

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at this time up to a thousand
seven hundred and fifty million pesos. So,

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when a multipedic is going to find
that there are liquidators who with one

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or two, three, six,
ten trials, earn a lot more than

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any public official of the President of
the Republic down there when I do a

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lot more is multiplied by scenes.
Then, on the other hand, we

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have the abuse of the power to
select auxiliaries of justice in an exceptional way.

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Under this mechanism, it is a
different one than the Society superintendent named

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finger. A number of auxiliaries have
been appointed a select group that are responsible

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for most of the most relevant processes. These alleged acts of corruption directly involve

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the Superintendent of Billy Escoba. Of
course, this is an investigation that has

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been going on since the nineteenth year. I began to be contacted by a

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number of peasant victims, creditors of
mg EX, legal representatives and shareholders of

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several companies, David Murcia himself,
finding a common pattern that led us to

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think that there was a poster behind. Thus, since September 15, we

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submitted this complaint to the Transparency Secretariat, in its capacity as Technical Secretariat of

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the National Moralization Commission, and only
until last Friday, after having been warned

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by a guardianship judge, they finally
filed or transferred these complaints and complaints to

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the competent bodies. Clearly, Mr
Escobar doesn' t know, I'

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m not the only one who has
investigated this. The investigation presented was augmented

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by information even from journalists, one
of them from this station, by journalist

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Gonzalo Guillén, by Senator Angélica Lozano, by the one signed through a very

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thorough investigation and petition rights filed,
including Mr Billy Escobar. In contrast to

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everything, it was where we saw
that there was a very clear and manifest

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poster that, by the way,
continues to operate Who are the favored liquidators.

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What you call a carto, that
of liquidators in a supposedly irregular way

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by the known societies, because we
know that they are evident highlight. We

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have Mrs Maria Mercedes Perry, who
has illegally possessed herself in a large number

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of processes. She is in charge
of DMG, has the same Elite,

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the same Bestin you named him and
another series of cooperatives. We have Mr

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Darío la Guau Mario. The guau
has a route, the sun, two

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has a brech, had a veneer
and others. We have Mr Joan Sebatian

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Martiz, who has had up to
ten processes in his charge, being also

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a liquidator of category B, that
is, classified to know of medium processes

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and in use of exceptional selection mechanism, has been named in cateco category processes

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that are giant. Thus, there
are many others who, of course,

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report how much the fees received by
these auxiliaries of justice you have just named.

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Well, Daniel, it' s
a question that, despite how thorough

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we' ve been, has been
hard to find that record coast. However,

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if the following data are pruned,
a liquidator can perceive up to one

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thousand seven hundred and fifty million is. That' s a certain function of

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the assets. But then let'
s calculate those figures by six, by

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seven, by eight, so that' s where we' re going to

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get some scandalous numbers. But what
do you see more than ten zero million

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pesos? More than ten zero million
pesos can perceive one of these auxiliaries of

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justice as not ra yes, of
course, of course, it would be

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necessary to make their remains, because
not in all cases they earn one thousand

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seven hundred million. But what is
guaranteed and documented is that, at least

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those I have just named you have
more than six processes. So, these

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are figures that are not even handled
by the private sector where company- related

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businesses are carried out. It'
s a bit of a scandal, and

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it' s not just the fees, but also the planning of spending.

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And there is even a legislative decree
of forty- three, thirty- four

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of two thousand eight that regulates everything
regarding the intervention of companies, which allows

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that, when the money of the
dough is finished in order to continue administering

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the liquidation, it can be used
to the silver of the public treasury,

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that is, the money of this
not only comes out of the companies that

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are being liquidated, but also that
kind of in the pocket of the taxpayers.

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That' s right, that'
s right, and not only that

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is it is here that it is
the regulation that regulates all these processes,

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both those of companies intervened by illegal
chanting and those of companies Organization and liquidation

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are two instruments that are made for
everything to happen, but nothing is known

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and nothing has been controlled. The
processes I have just mentioned, which are

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finally judicial proceedings, governed by the
general code of the process, are somehow

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impossible to be audited for years to
come, i e in white silver.

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They are trials of one instance by
judges appointed by the superintendent of society in

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turn, which prevents and makes practically
impossible that everything that happens in these proceedings

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is capable of being verified by a
higher stage, thus violating the universal principle

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of the double instance are in this
very particular matter, because the superintendency of

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societies that responds to the executive,
has judicial powers, jurisdictional powers and proceeds

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as judge in many cases. Well, on Friday, Dr Morales, three

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days ago, you filed a tutel
action in the Council of State against Gustavo

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Petro' s President and the Attorney
General' s Office. What is the

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reason for this guardianship? Well,
as I said, since the year two

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thousand and fifteen we have learned of
these facts to the Presidency of the Republic.

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But when I tell you to find
out, it' s not just

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that we sent a settler with a
document that wasn' t concessions. It

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was concessions with working tables composed of
advisers of the Presidency of the Republic,

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with a long, deep, dispersed
work. I get there because I had

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already denounced another issue that I do
not want to refer to right now,

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because it was fundamental for the new
government to find key evidence in the loss

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of you from drug trafficking by the
SAI. From there, at that moment

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it is time that no entity,
no control body, was informed on behalf

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of the Presidency of the Republic,
as we should have happened in December,

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we found that, in fact then
it was like deceiving and that is how

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we present the respective one that were
the National Commission of Judicial Discipline, warning

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that so far nothing has happened.
Recently I received a car that reported that

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he had been transferred to another magistrate, and that is how on June 4th

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this year. Finally, we submitted
the complaint and the complaint to the Public

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Prosecutor' s Office and the Public
Prosecutor' s Office. And it'

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s the time when, twenty days
later, twenty- one days later,

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the Attorney General' s Office has
not assigned him a single number of criminal

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news. Nothing has happened at all. Since September 15th of the 23rd to

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date, no judicial or administrative official
has put the model in this issue and,

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in the case of the Public Prosecutor' s Office, not even an

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eradicated number. It' s amazing. Dr Morales. As a result of

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these allegations, Suyas has received threats. Of course, on multiple occasions it

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has been my turn to live intermittently
in exile and it is that I am

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not the least Daniel. I'
m finally a lawyer and I know these

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issues. The problem is the victims. We are talking tens of thousands of

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victims who demand justice and who feel
absolutely violated, some for sixteen years,

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when everything about vg happens, a
thousand thanks to the lawyer Santiago Morales.

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According to his complaint, the Superintendency
of Societies has also used its judicial functions

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and in some cases has usurped functions
of the High Court of Bogotá and ignored

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decisions of judges. Are we going
to have to keep talking about this topic?