Consejera de Petro habría llevado soborno de $3.000 millones a presidente del Senado

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In the WU the report of Colonel
Daniel What is in the unit of risk,

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What is that new name of the
House of Nariño Good Days. This

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is today' s Colonel report.
Sandra Ortiz is the advisor to President Gustavo

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Petro for the regions. Before that, she was a representative to the Green

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Party House by Green Boyacá of the
rope of the questioned governor Carlos Amaya.

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He is the director of the National
Disaster Risk Management Unit. A Snader Pinilla

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had announced here in the Colonel report
that a presidential adviser was, according to

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him, involved in the corruption process
of the carrots. What I hadn'

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t said so far was who or
how. Today, in an exclusive interview,

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Pinilla signed that Sandra Ortiz carried three
billion pesos in cash bags, to

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be more precise for the President of
the Senate Ibannami. Within this negotiation of

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the Guajira tanks, which cost the
Colombians forty- six thousand eight hundred million

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pesos, Pinilla made these points and
at the same time affirmed that she fears

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for her life, Doctor Pinilla.
Last time we spoke, you mentioned a

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Presidential adviser, a person who was
in President Petro' s first line of

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proximity, as linked to these corruption
scandals in the Unit. I want to

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ask you clearly. That person is
the Presidential Counsellor, Sandra Ortiz. If

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she was the person who was like
the link or was the link for the

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subject that happened in the carrots,
she received money from that product, from

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corruption, from that matter that she
was a messenger to her was given,

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that is, she gave her a
resource for her to be handed over to

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a parliamentarian later. That MP is
Andrés Calle, the Speaker of the House

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of Representatives. No, no,
it' s not Andrés Calle. It

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is the other MP who is among
the matrix that leaked as such into the

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media, that is, the President
of the Ibannam Senate. If so,

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she was the link to stop the
delivery. You say she as a messenger

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took a resource of how much that
resource was. The President of the Senate.

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They had to give him three billion
pesos and she was the person to

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whom I make the delivery and then
I accompany him to a site in Bogotá

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to make the delivery of the resource. It was three zero million pesos.

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In cash, he was mastered in
cash, where they were delivered. You

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guys went to a place in Bogotá
I was in Suitcases. How' d

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that go in Boxes. It wasn' t in Suitcases. She lives in

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the Damasfiet Tequen, where they'
re like residences. One day in the

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night, I arrive and between one
part and the other full day the three

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billion pesos and then from there the
tken lady I accompany her in the scheme

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or in the car of the security
scheme. That charge and I headed about

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fifteen twenty minutes or so. I
remember for the time and we came to

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a place and made the delivery.
Dr Pini, you already saw the Doctor

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were going Nam at the time of
delivery. I didn' t see him

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come back and I repeat. She
was the link. Yes, because,

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obviously, I wasn' t going
to attend directly to myself and the details

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of the site as such, because
they' re inside what we have,

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inside the matrix to make the delivery. There is a possibility, Doctor Pinilla,

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that you have delivered those bags,
that money to her and that from

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then on she will say that she
gave them to the President of the Senate

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Ibandame, but that she did not
give them to you, because she was,

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say, the person with whom the
delivery had to be made. I

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can' t tell you that or
not, because I walk to that building,

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I get to the basement I deliver
both, I help him to put

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his bags down to the elevator of
that building and later, until that I

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get there I call you you get
here, because from now on you can

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tell you and I go out through
the basement of that building and I already

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retire because, obviously, I went. I was that I was, I,

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I wasn' t in car person, as I say, I was

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in the car of Juan Ella'
s security scheme. In addition to the

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doctors is name and Calle, there
are more congressmen involved who received money from

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these negotiated in the disaster and risk
management unit. At this moment, as

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the matrix that the whole country knew
was delivered, we are first, because,

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with that matrix of collaboration in the
other points, because obviously we are

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still on this subject because, as
we have stated, we have no guarantees.

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Daniel, the subject of leaking the
names puts one at even greater risk

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to my life. That is,
today, if it was a complicated subject

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before, today, then it became
a much more complex subject. That'

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s why I' m sheltered.
I go back and repeat for my own

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safety and I' m sheltered for
some other way. Don' t hurt

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me, because obviously, it wasn' t easy to name the two people

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who are in the womb, who
are congressmen, and you understand that you

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also fear for your life and come
back and I repeat, as you did

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last time, I' m not
going to kill myself. I' m

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not gonna do any of that.
Vulgo, I have a family and that

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was a rather complex decision, but
it is made because the repeat returns.

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I' m not going to look
like the bad guy in the movie when

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I' m just a corner of
everything in Granada, Dr Pinilla, where

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the money that the doctor brought to
Iván Nav came from Where did that money

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come from Sander Ortiz and Iban,
as I say, within what is going

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to be explained on Wednesday in the
interrogation that we' re going to have

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with the prosecution, because today we' re going to tell the details,

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because Daniel will understand that there are
specific details that I would have to give

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them in that interrogation so that later
the prosecution won' t take let'

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s say this interview or the things
that we have sometimes said for you against

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me. I fully understand this,
but I also take it from your words

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that, in addition to the two
congressmen you have appointed, there are more

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people involved and that this money would
come from public resources destined for the business

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of the carts. That' s
right, Dr Pinilla, there' s

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a version in the judicial circles.
He says that you revealed some names,

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but there is no such thing as
correspondence with facts and documentary evidence, and

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that saying so might be more of
a way to ensure you the silence and

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protection of any persons involved. What
do you say to that? No.

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That' s why I' m
telling you that if just by telling him

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a name they leaked the details now, they would have finished leaking all the

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information and that would have put my
life more at risk, because that'

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s where he' s going to
start giving details. They can hinder the

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evidence, which I can deliver,
they can hinder the recordings, which can

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hinder the cameras of the different places
where I was. And so, obviously,

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you can' t manifest And I
go back and say I' m

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not going to keep anyone behind your
back, because, as suddenly and as

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I left it to you in the
interview, I was just a list within

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a granary that was inside a criminal
organization that was charged with doing this kind

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of thing with several congressmen of yours. Also, this is a negotiation that

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is starting, because I come back
and I repeat just saying the names leaked

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out at once then if I was
already beginning to give details. That'

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s why it' s done or
it' s going to be done this

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Wednesday. I mean, he asked
for that Wednesday to do the first interrogation

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and depending on whether we have any
guarantees, because we would begin as such

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to give evidence and say support for
what is being said. And because it

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is expected that there will be guarantees
to be able to tell the truth,

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that this is what we want to
do, that is to say the truth

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and power, then, safeguard my
idea, which is one of the most

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important things, because Daniel is not
easy to tell the things that we are

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in a country where violence, where
you are robbed of cells and killed,

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where so many things happen and so
until he has no security for me,

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for my family and that I can
safeguard it because obviously it is going to

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be very difficult for us to start
talking without those guarantees. There is another

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aspect that has attracted attention within the
Unit, which is the supply of yellow

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machinery. They say all those yellow
machinery contracts went with their respective vaccine within

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the Unit. What do you know
about that? I' m not gonna

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tell you something that happened on the
antida, like the yellow machine. These

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are immediate attentions on life- sustaining
issues. The Unit has, unfortunately,

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a bad reputation, bad pay.
It turns out that when we arrived at

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the Unity, the unity of life, almost or almost three hundred billion pesos

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of machinery, yellow, of pro- odrity orders that were made in the

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past and that has no sp Yes, that is, from the two thousand

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nineteen to the two thousand twenty-
two sum almost three hundred billion pesos and

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it was one of the things that
every fifteen saw not shelter in the Unity.

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So if they were able to,
I would have to give them money,

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for I imagine that in that period
where they were, they had to

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make recourse to someone. I don' t know about that. But when

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I come back and repeat, when
I have immunity, I will be able

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to tell more specific details of the
subject. But I repeat it again,

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what is speculated at this moment is
what is seen, because it turns out,

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Daniel, so that it is known
that they made orders for production.

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It returns repeto, not from the
seven of August of two thousand meditating here,

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not but the seven of August thousand
twenty- three backward made orders of

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poria for almost three hundred billion pesos
and had no CDP is of but had

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certificates with a budgetary age. One
last question that you are obviously in liberty

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to answer to me yes or no. Carlos Andrés Trujillo is a conservative leader

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in Itagi, but he has had
huge votes in La Guajira and particularly in

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Nuribia. This is another congressman you
talk about. That is the object of

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cooperation and of the issues to be
given when we have guarantees. Daniel,

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you will understand that this is a
rather complex issue and I will come back,

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I repeat, when we have guarantees, we will answer all the questions

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and questions that the country has in
the press and, obviously, the one

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we want most to hear from us
than in this case from the prosecution,

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which we hope will be delivered after
the situation we have. Well, thank

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you very much. Rpini. I
thank you very much for your conversation with

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the Colonel report to you, Daniel, thank you very much and I come

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back and repeat and want to give
a message to all the people who are

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listening to us and to the whole
country that if something happens to me or

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to someone in my family, they
will be people who were named in that

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initial matrix that was leaked to the
media, because that is one of the

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things that people do not denounce here
in Colombia. They are the reasons why

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people prefer to remain silent and I
hold responsible for my life and integrity to

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myself and my family, to the
people I appointed in that matrix of cooperation.

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Let' s go over who these
people are. There' s Dr

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Aname, President of the Senate.
There is Dr Andrés Calle, who represents

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the House and President of the House. There is Dr Luis Barreto, who

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is the current Deputy Director of Knowledge
and who is in charge of which I

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was in charge. There' s
Dr Victor Mesa, who was Deputy Director

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General, and there' s the
contractors of the Carthancas. I see you

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' ve missed one, Dr Olmedo
Lopez. You don' t suspect he

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' s going to be on his
own. The mother. I give Dr

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Almebo Lopez a message and he'
s seeing me right now. I invite

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you to tell the country the truth? I can only tell you that.

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Daniel, I invite you to tell
the truth to the country. Thank you

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so much. Thank you very much. A few hours ago I spoke to

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Presidential Counsellor Sandra Ortiz, who denies
the claims of Snyder Pinilla, whom she

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said she met in the office of
the Unit, says nothing of what he

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claims. It is true that she
does know and is a friend of Ivan

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Nami, but that she has never
brought money to Olmedo López, who was

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the director of the Unit, if
she received ten million pesos last Christmas,

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but it was silver from her pocket, not public silver, and used it

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to give gifts to children in need
of Boyacá. The Presidential Councillor also states

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that her ten escorts accompany her everywhere
and can attest to her honesty. By

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the way, he told me that
escorts also get little gifts. I also

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communicated with Senator Ivan Name, who
initially said he will not speak until Snader

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Pinilla spells out his accusations. When
I told him that I had specified them

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saying that he received three zero million
pesos, there was no answer. Next

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Wednesday, May 8, Snader Pinilla
will attend the first interrogation by the Attorney

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General' s Office. What will
decide if he grants you the principle of

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opportunity that you are asking to rat
out your accomplices in numerous irregularities in the

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National Disaster Risk Management Unit NGORED.
There' s a bonus track. Attorney

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Samuel Arturo Sánchez Cañón, known as
the toilet, because through excuses he dragged

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his case to the edge of the
prescription. He was sentenced for bribery of

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witnesses to a laughable sentence of seven
years in house imprisonment. The sentence itself

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low will be mocked by the subject, who has five days to peel.

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Those five days are due next week, Wednesday, May 8. By nine

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at midnight, before the Court of
Carlas can rule on the appeal, the

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term will have expired and he will
be innocent by statute of limitations. The

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same subject will be charged again on
24 May for witness bribery. Cifraude procedurale

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within the process to the lawyer diego
chain. This was today' s colonel

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report. Thank you very much.