Feb. 29, 2024
Tlahuelpuchis (la vampira mexicana) || Relatos del lado oscuro

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Se cuenta que son mujeres que pueden cambiar su apariencia, matan niños, beben sangre, crean tormentas.... son las brujas vampiro...
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Very good night and all of you
welcome to tales on the dark side.
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You know that my particular opinion about
vampires has never been very positive and that
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to me there doesn' t seem
to be any romanticism or any cute thing
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behind a vampire that in any way, a vampire can be a pale teenager
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with a distant look and wandering around
here or there, nor any ridiculous guy
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who dresses in black, paints his
lips red, leaves his hair long and
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considers that with that it' s
chick. No. The vampire is somehow
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an intermediate being between a rotting corpse
and a living being the tlag. Puche
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is a vampire has nothing to do
with a human specimen. It is a
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degraded variant tales of the dark side, brown, beings, strangers, events,
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is inexplicable, truth stories that other
minds prefer to ignore as such,
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according to European legends, which are
not necessarily the same as America, as
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Africa, as Japan, but which
have great similarities. According to that,
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the vampire is an undead and,
therefore, would be a corpse. Being
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a corpse, it is a dispossession, characterized by the nauseating pain that surrounds
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it. It' s not pretty
and you don' t dress with a
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third, but it' s a
stinking corpse has certainly begun to degenerate the
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life that gives you a demonic spirit
and the fact that you feed on the
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life of other beings keeps you in
some way more or less complete. I
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insist more or less complete. However, this is a being who is not
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alive. Therefore, your skin has
lost, softness, lightness, flexibility,
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your movements can be breathed in or
directed by this cursed spirit. However,
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they are not the movements of a
living being. Therefore, they are rigid
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closer to a kind of telekinesis than
to a natural movement. On the other
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hand, they are not eternal,
they are not all- wise, they
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are not omnipresent and they are not
extraordinarily strong. They simply live much more,
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know much more and can move very
well from the very fear of human
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beings. It' s complex,
but we usually always talk about European vampires.
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And that is not entirely correct,
because in many cultures, as I
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said, there is the idea of
creatures who suck blood to live and as
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such can overcome the lives of average
human beings and reach very long ages.
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Mexico is no exception. Mexico is
a country where there was also that belief,
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and also a terrible belief, because
it is still present. Except the
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name' s not vampire. They' re called witches, but they'
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re nothing but a vampire Let me
explain a little more. In fact,
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the idea of these beings is very
central, it is very central to Mexico,
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atliscora land of witches. Everyone knew
that the witches came down from the
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skirts of the Volcano or went up. But the oldest belief, good the
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most distributed that of the witches of
Tlaxcala. And I' m not referring
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to the current people of Tlaxcala,
but in the time of the colony.
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Before the colony they were known as
tlahuelpuchis, and it was something that was
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widespread throughout the Altiplano, not only
in Tlaxcala. What surprised me most is
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that, while the term tlago,
elpuchi is Tlaxcaltec from the time of Tlaxcala
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as a pre- Hispanic kingdom,
the idea, this very idea that I
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am going to describe to you of
this character, was also present in Mexican
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territories, in the areas of what
is currently Mexico City, of what was
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Tenochtitlán. It was extended, of
course, to areas of Cholula, to
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areas of Morelos, to low areas
of Guerrero, to the area of Veracruz,
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to the Olmeca toltec zones. Everywhere
they believed in this, everyone gave
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it a different name, depending on
their own dialect, but essentially it meant
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the same thing. Tlago, the
puchi could translate something like brazier that shines
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or haze that shines. The term
is a little complicated to explain, since
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it was an idea more than a
word, but as such it described that
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and it is that what they were
describing was these fireballs that for so many
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years we have heard that they exist. This is very notorious because on many
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occasions I have had the opportunity to
talk to current people, young people,
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who have witnessed this. I'
ve had a chance to talk to the
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elderly, who lived this too.
Therefore, it is one of those issues
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that has caused me a lot of
curiosity and the idea of tlahuelpuche is essentially
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that. The Tlahuelpuchi. When the
Spaniards arrive, they come across all sorts
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of horrors in Mexican territory. To
start off from the coast towards the highlands.
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They encounter tribes that had sompantlis,
that is, beautiful ornaments where they
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placed the skulls of the people who
had been sacrificed or who had died in
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the war, and decorated with this
the entrances of their cities. The skulls
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already decomposed, decarbonated, some even
more caldosos, others still with remains,
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were there adorning. The Spaniards weren' t just any candy. In fact,
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the first to arrive were probably criminals
taken out of prison, sent to
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the ships on the condition that if
they helped in this task, they would
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be forgiven for their crimes. Then
they were very, very dangerous people,
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very rough, but still they were
not prepared to meet what was traditional in
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Mexico. We understand that here they
cut off an individual' s chest,
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took out his heart and spread the
body and that, for example, the
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pozole that we now enjoy so much. Well, actually, if he had
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human flesh, okay, and it' s not like they fed on human
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flesh. It wasn' t a
cannibal town. It was a town that
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had a ritual that eventually included human
flesh intake, but the handling of bodies
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and everything was quite everyday. But
that wasn' t all they had to
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do with it. In Mexico there
were many stories. People told many stories
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and this made it easier for chroniclers
to tell some of these stories. And
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when they get to the Tlaxcala area, within the many things they hear was
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the legend of the tlahuelpuchis and they
know why they told them. Come on.
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You don' t think the Spaniards
came and the people came quickly to
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tell you, you hear the legend
of my people about such a thing.
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No, of course there was no
certain fear these strange characters and obviously the
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news was flying that where they were
passing wreaked havoc. However, the real
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reason I told them the story is
no other, but they saw it,
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according to that very ancient tradition.
When the Spaniards arrive in 1, 500
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twenty, more or less, they
observe something that happens in the area of
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what today is the malinche and ask
what they answer to nail the puchis and
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they ask what it is and then
tell them the story. And that'
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s how it comes to our day. Of course, she' s still
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alive. It is a legend that
has not disappeared and that is in force,
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but it does not arrive because some
of these chroniclers who heard what the
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people of those places explained kept it. The funny thing is that what the
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tlage the puchis already told him,
the name comes from this species as a
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brazier or from this kind of hornito, from this small brazier that is used
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to burn the cupal and incense,
but that shines, that is, they
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used that definition rather and the correct
translation would be rather like fog that shines.
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They described women in the communities as
what was happening. Sometimes small children
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disappeared or were found within the house
dead without blood, with very peculiar wounds,
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or were found outside in pens,
equally without blood, dead. People
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at the time believed that this was
because of women who had the ease to
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transform themselves as if they were naguals, to transform themselves into animals to do
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this damage. These women, who
could be regarded as what we would call
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witches, fed on a daily basis
of common food and could go unnoticed completely,
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given that their human appearance was normal
the appearance of an ordinary person.
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However, the strikepuchis were born with
a drink the puchis were born with these
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gifts that developed from adolescence. Up
to that point, no Tlahuelpuchi could know
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what that was. From adolescence,
these women began to develop a need for
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human blood, especially infant blood.
According to legend, each of these people
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learned in their own way why.
Because the Tlahuelpuchi, at least in understanding
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this region of the Center, was
not part of a guild like the witches
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in Europe who made covenants or covenants
in Mexico. They were people who suddenly
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realized they were this and, obviously, it was not something that could be
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discussed with the whole colony. It
was a matter that developed little by little.
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It could be because of a cursed
inheritance, that is, because they
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had been bewitched or cursed by a
similar person another, because, indeed,
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there would have been some contact of
the parent with an atlahuelpuchi. While this
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type of Mexican vampire preferred to attack
an infant, if not, he could
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also attack an adult. Pollution,
unlike European belief, would not occur in
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the adult himself, but in his
offspring, so that the adult could go
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on without presenting any symptoms, without
any problem, but his child would be
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born with this disease or with this
strange suffering or characteristic, so that,
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when he reaches adolescence, this woman. Because, while some claim that there
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could also be men with these characteristics, the vast majority were women, since
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men would probably die very soon before
developing skills. Once he starts feeling the
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need, he' s going to
look for it and he' s going
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to find a way. Sometimes,
one atlago, the puchi passed the knowledge
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to another let me talk to him. This is because, besides, it
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' s very interesting. In ancient
belief, they could be recognized, for
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example, in the street, in
a lot of people, in a market,
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and the other people saw two women
alike, common and ordinary in traditional
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clothing, with nothing particular, but
they would immediately recognize each other. Usually,
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they' d both give in.
The Tlahulpuche was very territorial. It
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was therefore possible to know who might
be the one that affected a certain region.
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But eventually, when they came across
the road with another they immediately recognized
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each other. Two things could happen, one that immediately went away without saying
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a word to not be evident and
not be put at risk, or two
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that one of them would introduce the
other into the world of vampirism, that
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is, realize that the other did
not yet know what this was like and
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then teach it. In that case, over time, both could share certain
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experiences. While each would hunt on
their own, while each would have its
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own family, yes, eventually they
would have encounters. Now. The Tlahuelpuche
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was an ordinary ordinary woman. So, I was going to have a husband,
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I was going to have some kids
and I' m going to have
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some brothers, some cousins, some
guys. According to tradition a ta tlau,
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the puchi never attacks a relative,
unless it is to kill him,
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to force him, to keep quiet. Otherwise, she' d be condemning
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herself. Therefore, he can develop
a large family and will never attack one
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of his family members. Another thing, he' s not just gonna have
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a family. Following the European tradition
and seeing what Mexican trahuelpuchi are considered there
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would also be very long- lived. Five or six times the age of
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life of a normal human being.
Therefore, an atlago the puchi would have
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a family and then look for another
place to have a second family, because
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obviously there would come a time when
someone would realize that this woman does not
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age. That was the secret,
an atlago, the puchi will die when
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he stops doing what he knows how
to do. Now, what does the
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tlag know how to do? The
puchi sucks blood. He doesn' t
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do it every day, it'
s not his only food, it'
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s not the only thing he'
s gonna do all day. No.
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According to tradition, blood intake occurs
about, two or three times a month,
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no more, and only occurs from
adolescence. But how is this.
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He just comes knocks on the door
and says listen excuse me you have a
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newborn, allows me to suck your
blood. Of course it does not use
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zoomorphosis, that is, transformation into
an animal according to ancient rituals, at
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least with ancient beliefs. The nahual
could, through certain enchantments, certain dances,
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certain chants transform from human to animal
to go, to steal, to
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go to kill, to do many
things in the same way the tlago the
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puchi could do, only it was
a little more complicated. The first requires
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burning a number of substances, among
which was the cupal, in which there
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is also incense capulin rod and even
some herbs that produce strong odors. Once
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this is burning and releasing a huge
amount of smoke, she feels no forgiveness
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before she does what they call her
the pass, that is, she crosses
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over this species, this kind of
anaphre. It goes over three times in
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three directions. Never to the west. It starts from the north, returns
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to the south and then jumps to
the east and then sits looking towards the
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west and then, according to tradition, it will come off the legs,
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the arms of what he doesn'
t need and the transformation into an animal
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begins. Obviously, this requires that
it not be discovered. Therefore, he
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will seek to do so in a
remote remote place, since if he lives
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in a family, at some point, one of the members of the family
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could notice even only by the smell
or by the presence of NAFRE the one
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where he is burning things, so
he will prefer to move away to some
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hill. But of course it'
s not that simple. Tell me if
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you, right now that you hear
me, could just at eleven o'
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clock at night say dearest forgiveness.
I' m gonna go get some buns
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and come back in the morning.
Obviously, someone' s gonna ask what
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you' re going to. Therefore, the drink the puchi used to sleep
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the whole family through something in the
food, through something at dinner or simply
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through what we would call the breath, a kind of bao that sleeps people.
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Using this, sleep the family.
But to avoid suspicions, he'
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s capable of the mountain. Already
on the mountain he makes the spells and
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hides the remains of his body and
then travels in a very simple way,
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either as a dog, as a
zopilot or as a nocturnal animal like even
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a large guajolote. At a distance, however, they can be distinguished.
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That' s where the name Tlahue
the puchi comes from, as in the
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distance they are seen to shine as
if they were surrounded by fire fireballs of
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fire. Of course, once they
get to a place, what people are
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going to see is an animal.
It can be from a tecolote, a
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chicken, something that goes unnoticed.
The great advantage of drinking, puchi,
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at least according to tradition and belief, is that it can opt for harmless
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- looking animals. What use it
would be to transform himself into a dragon.
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They would make the whole town rise
up in arms and organize a hunt,
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therefore, a hen, a dog, something everyday to enter the home
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and then attack. That' s
a part that has caught my attention enormously.
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I was talking to them. These
beings transform, but as they transform,
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they obviously shed this kind of glow
that would seem to be a ball
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of fire. But when they reach
fate, it' s hard to tell
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it apart. So, if anyone
hears a flutter on the roof of your
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house peeks out, there' s
going to be an animal and a point,
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but that' s the interesting part. If the tlau, the puchi
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enters probably look for the smallest at
that point, it will use those same,
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those same abilities or that kind of
power. Let' s call him
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that so no one notices. He' ll take the infant, drink the
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blood. Maybe I' ll do
it right there, or I' ll
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go out on the ground somewhere nearby, and then it disappears at dawn here
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Nothing happened. When her family wakes
up, they' re going to find
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her doing food or anything or even
getting dressed to go to work. Because
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this is a story that is still
alive today. It is not a story
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of the 15th century, but a
story that is still alive today. Now,
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let' s get on with the
legend. We' ll see some
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business later. There the legend tells
that once the drink, the puchi satisfied
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this need for blood can pass even
weeks without bothering anyone, but yes,
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for example, there is a serious
case in which there is no infant.
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It may happen that the tlahuel puchi
assaults some night traveler, especially or some
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adult. At this point it is
when the contamination occurs and if that person
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comes to have offspring, probably among
the descendants there is a tlahuelpuche. They
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are not eternal, no, of
course, they are not alive. They
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are living beings, unlike the European
vampire, who is an undead, that
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is, an animated corpse. These
are living things. They can eat common
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food, they can lead a common
life, they can look like ordinary people,
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but deep down they continue with this
dynamic and longevity about four or five
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generations. Some accounts from a long
time ago said that people who had been
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known by the great- grandparents who
spoke of that person were known, yet
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the person was still alive and still
looked the same. So, well,
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yeah, they' re a lot
longer than a normal human being. How
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to protect yourself from it is very
simple and this I do to me.
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It was my turn to see him, in fact, in a house where
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there was a newborn many years ago. I was still touched by a house
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where when I arrived there were scissors, big scissors some scissors to cut chicken
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at different points tied with red slats. It was my turn to see a
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bucket of water under the crib and
a mirror at the door. They were
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different tricks. Formerly it was said
that in order to avoid the attack of
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an atlage, the puuchi could be
used from plants, such as garlic,
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but not only garlic in the European
sense of hanging a necklace of garlic,
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but placed on an tortilla between the
baby' s clothes. Another was,
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for example, placing the scissors under
the baby' s bed. But sometimes,
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when living in very precarious conditions and
the baby slept in the petate with
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the parents, they could choose to
place a large metal object under the petate,
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such as a machete, as long
as it was placed with another on
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the cross, the mirror could also
be placed. This tool was very good,
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because Tlahuelpuchi, in its animal state
or in its human state, is
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still reflected as human. Therefore,
it was useful to unmask her. Thus,
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she, crossing in front of a
mirror and turning around and being reflected,
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would panic and run out and,
of course, there were other remedies,
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not even burning some things to drive
them away if it was known that
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they were on their way because you
could see they could burn some herbs,
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chilies and different products from the region. Also incense the cupal caused people to
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walk away could see them from a
long distance and warn that they were there
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Now why do I say they were
there? Because sometimes they were together.
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While the hunt is not shared,
they could be seen together. That'
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s why I was explaining to you
that they recognize each other. They can
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even work together when it refers,
for example, to something that puts them
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at risk. A witch hunt,
for example, can put them at risk
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once a witch is detected. The
oldest tradition said that by burning the members
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that was falling apart. That I' m not really sure could do,
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but well, burning or just catching
her when she comes home and kills the
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other one, trapping her during the
attack and killing her For that it would
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take cutting off heads and doing a
lot of barbarities. This is all part
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of the law. Now, the
legend also has a very interesting part,
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and it is that, over the
years we have been talking to people who
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have heard stories from me personally,
I have had to talk to many people
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who have seen witches and are not
ugly old ladies with warts riding in a
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broom flying in the middle of the
night. They refer to the fireballs and
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the people I' ve spoken to
have the least suitable profile to be fanciful
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and have told me now. Why
this is not so frequent. First,
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because it' s not a frequent
matter. They already existed in that age
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of these legends, but they were
not so abundant out there everywhere. Second,
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where you could do a ritual today
in the city of Puebla. Let
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' s think you live in two
in San Sebastián de aparicio. Where he
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would have to go first walking in
the middle of the night to make a
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bonfire, burn herbs and do the
whole ritual to the hill of Malucan does
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not come alive, Where he could
go to do it in his house.
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No man, I' d probably
live in a 28- square- foot
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house and there you can' t
make a saumerium believe me. Besides,
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who among us today hears a hen
flapping the roof and is going to put
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on irons and mirrors. Most likely
someone comes out, shoots him and cooks
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him, because he is. The
city. It' s a very complex
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city. However, this is still
happening on the outskirts, where a person
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could go out and do all this. I know it sounds fantasy. You
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can explain to me in a thousand
ways what witches are. At some point
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someone told me they were decomposition gases. No. No, no, it
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' s gases that decompose. A
decomposing gas is a product that is decomposing
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and releasing a good gas. It
came off if, by chance, there
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' s something that can turn it
on and on, because it' s
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on and it' s over.
It' s a fireball and it'
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s over. He doesn' t
believe me. Throw a lighter at a
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fire and you' ll see what
happens. That' s 100% gas
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fuel. It' s a flame
and it' s over. And this
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can last a long time moving without
turning off. Now, you must remember
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it because this happened here in Pueblanada
a six or seven years on the Tlisco
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road, on the Lisco highway,
there was a camp of road people who
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were doing some repairs back then and
they began to see precisely fireballs coming from
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an added street, going up and
down. This caused them to panic.
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Even the camp manager called to ask
for support from someone who could turn that
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off, thinking it was a fire
and threatening the camp, where there were
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machines and so on. At that
time, a state police patrol arrived,
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who came to see what was happening
and stayed there They called for civil protection
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support. Civil protection came and they
stayed there to see what that was,
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because it wasn' t what they
expected. These were two fireballs, as
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they narrated, coming up from the
glen, reaching a certain point, turning
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around and coming down, and so
they were until some point before dawn came
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a reporter from Atlisco, from a
sister station of us. Over there from
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Atlisco. Who could see what was
going on and document how the state police,
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civil protection, the people from the
truckers' camp and the journalist were
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there, watching those fireballs go up
and down. After a while, the
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fireballs went away and disappeared into the
glen. They didn' t do anything
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or at least they didn' t
see him do anything, but they won
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' t burn either. They burned
nothing. The description of the place was
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his own so everything would have been
burned. However, grassland. It didn
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' t burn, it didn'
t burn the bushes, it didn'
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t burn anything at all. Already
when dawn and that leaves the characters,
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those who were there come down to
the area where they had seen these phenomena.
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And ironically there are no traces of
fire, no burning grass, nothing.
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This happened six years ago. It
was news. We had a chance
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to interview in those years the news
person who was there and well, it
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was a very interesting story. But
I' ve come across similar ones.
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One of them is in Pachuca,
Hidalgo. There I have been told of
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an event that occurred in the seventies, rather than in the early eighties eighty
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- one, eighty- two,
thinking about the age of these people and
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well, this family, a family
of evangelical Christian faith, moves to live
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there because of work, to a
house that was on the outskirts already at
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the foot of the mountain and moreover, it was in the back of a
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property. From there there was a
lot of hills and a beautiful landscape.
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In that family there were three children, six years old, eight years old
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and probably ten. In the next
house there was also a similar couple of
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children and they start playing together.
Very soon they become good friends and jump
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from one side to the other and
throw parties until an afternoon where at dusk,
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they kept hanging there from a swing
they had and shouting happy of life.
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And the mother of the other group
of children rushes in, the lady
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enters at full speed, calling her
children and calling the mother of this other
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family. When she goes out and
meets the two moms, she tells her
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very excited, very frantic, to
get the kids in the house because the
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witches are coming. Obviously, the
lady, who was an evangelical Christian,
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was not quite sure what this lady
was talking about. If it was a
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superstition, if it was something,
then I didn' t understand. This
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lady is just saying please, get
her children, close the doors, close
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the windows in one room and obviously
there were no crucifixes to put on,
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but if there were scissors to hang, scissors to the window and the door
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and not let them leave for any
reason anywhere, the person who narrated it
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to us remembered very clearly of that
incident, that well, for not ruining
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the thing to the neighbor. This
lady puts her children in, closes the
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door, closes the window and looks
out the window to see what to go
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to all this mess. And then
watch in the distance the lady herself how
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those fireballs appear in the distance.
They didn' t come together. I
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' d come one over there and
one over here. Like flying over trees,
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jumping from one tree to another.
Suddenly I was going down to the
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ground, suddenly I was coming back
up. They are not very large trees
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and they are not very abundant.
They' re more of a kind of
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casserole. Then he jumps from one
to the other until he walks away from
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where these two houses were and he' s going to get in the lower
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zone already. And that' s
the next day. Well, the kids
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are going to sleep, all quiet, all very quiet. The next day,
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well, everybody gets up like nothing
else, the kids go to school.
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A little later the neighbor gossips.
We see him like this and he
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tells him that he had seen each
other. And if you tell him if
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I saw anything in heaven, who
knows what witches were. Wait for you
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and we' ll hear from some
little boy who died. In fact,
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during the course of the day news
came that two or three blocks down in
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a house where there was a little
boy of months had died the baby had
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strange marks on his arms and face
and had dawned dead. A thousand nine
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hundred and eighty- eight. Do
not think that there is in the time
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of the colony and this has been
told to me by someone who surprised me
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because I would not expect it.
But besides these, well, there are
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a lot of others. It has
touched me, as I said, to
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enter still a house where we were
casually throwing line outside, we were topography
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for a play and the very attentive
neighbors invited us to have a drink,
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to cool ourselves a little towards a
heat of the devil and during the conversation
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there in broad features. I noticed
the detail of the mirror at the door,
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the bucket of water, under the
cradle and several elements that were out
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there and already asking more in confidence, why for the witches. But there
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' s actually a huge difference.
An atlago, the puche is not a
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witch. The witch' s idea
is that of a sorcerer is a person
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who makes spells, who makes spells
to affect or for whatever the tlagelpuche is
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a vampire, although he can eat
normal food, he requires the blood to
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live and continue living. A curious
detail that we were told many years ago
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was that there was a woman in
a village of Querétaro, who had her
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children, had her husband and saw
the husband die first then saw the children
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die and the woman still looked the
same. After a while, the woman
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was no longer seen. People thought
he might have died. Some time later,
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however, news came from one of
these men who was on the verge
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of having seen her in a town
in the State of Mexico, just as
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young as another man with other children. Some time later there was news that
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he had been seen in another town
with another man exactly the same. The
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three stories they told were from a
great- grandfather, then a great-
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grandfather and then a grandfather. Three
generations had heard and had seen this woman
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look exactly the same. Curious the
similarities between a European legend and a Mexican
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legend. Anyway, thank you so
much for your company. Thanks to Doña
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Blandina, who, as always,
is accompanying us and listening very soon,
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Very good night and all of you
welcome to tales on the dark side.
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You know that my particular opinion about
vampires has never been very positive and that
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to me there doesn' t seem
to be any romanticism or any cute thing
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behind a vampire that in any way, a vampire can be a pale teenager
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with a distant look and wandering around
here or there, nor any ridiculous guy
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who dresses in black, paints his
lips red, leaves his hair long and
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considers that with that it' s
chick. No. The vampire is somehow
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an intermediate being between a rotting corpse
and a living being the tlag. Puche
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is a vampire has nothing to do
with a human specimen. It is a
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degraded variant tales of the dark side, brown, beings, strangers, events,
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is inexplicable, truth stories that other
minds prefer to ignore as such,
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according to European legends, which are
not necessarily the same as America, as
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Africa, as Japan, but which
have great similarities. According to that,
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the vampire is an undead and,
therefore, would be a corpse. Being
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a corpse, it is a dispossession, characterized by the nauseating pain that surrounds
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it. It' s not pretty
and you don' t dress with a
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third, but it' s a
stinking corpse has certainly begun to degenerate the
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life that gives you a demonic spirit
and the fact that you feed on the
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life of other beings keeps you in
some way more or less complete. I
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insist more or less complete. However, this is a being who is not
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alive. Therefore, your skin has
lost, softness, lightness, flexibility,
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your movements can be breathed in or
directed by this cursed spirit. However,
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they are not the movements of a
living being. Therefore, they are rigid
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closer to a kind of telekinesis than
to a natural movement. On the other
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hand, they are not eternal,
they are not all- wise, they
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are not omnipresent and they are not
extraordinarily strong. They simply live much more,
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know much more and can move very
well from the very fear of human
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beings. It' s complex,
but we usually always talk about European vampires.
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And that is not entirely correct,
because in many cultures, as I
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said, there is the idea of
creatures who suck blood to live and as
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such can overcome the lives of average
human beings and reach very long ages.
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Mexico is no exception. Mexico is
a country where there was also that belief,
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and also a terrible belief, because
it is still present. Except the
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name' s not vampire. They' re called witches, but they'
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re nothing but a vampire Let me
explain a little more. In fact,
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the idea of these beings is very
central, it is very central to Mexico,
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atliscora land of witches. Everyone knew
that the witches came down from the
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skirts of the Volcano or went up. But the oldest belief, good the
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most distributed that of the witches of
Tlaxcala. And I' m not referring
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to the current people of Tlaxcala,
but in the time of the colony.
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Before the colony they were known as
tlahuelpuchis, and it was something that was
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widespread throughout the Altiplano, not only
in Tlaxcala. What surprised me most is
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that, while the term tlago,
elpuchi is Tlaxcaltec from the time of Tlaxcala
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as a pre- Hispanic kingdom,
the idea, this very idea that I
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am going to describe to you of
this character, was also present in Mexican
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territories, in the areas of what
is currently Mexico City, of what was
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Tenochtitlán. It was extended, of
course, to areas of Cholula, to
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areas of Morelos, to low areas
of Guerrero, to the area of Veracruz,
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to the Olmeca toltec zones. Everywhere
they believed in this, everyone gave
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it a different name, depending on
their own dialect, but essentially it meant
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the same thing. Tlago, the
puchi could translate something like brazier that shines
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or haze that shines. The term
is a little complicated to explain, since
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it was an idea more than a
word, but as such it described that
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and it is that what they were
describing was these fireballs that for so many
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years we have heard that they exist. This is very notorious because on many
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occasions I have had the opportunity to
talk to current people, young people,
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who have witnessed this. I'
ve had a chance to talk to the
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elderly, who lived this too.
Therefore, it is one of those issues
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that has caused me a lot of
curiosity and the idea of tlahuelpuche is essentially
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that. The Tlahuelpuchi. When the
Spaniards arrive, they come across all sorts
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of horrors in Mexican territory. To
start off from the coast towards the highlands.
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They encounter tribes that had sompantlis,
that is, beautiful ornaments where they
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placed the skulls of the people who
had been sacrificed or who had died in
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the war, and decorated with this
the entrances of their cities. The skulls
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already decomposed, decarbonated, some even
more caldosos, others still with remains,
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were there adorning. The Spaniards weren' t just any candy. In fact,
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the first to arrive were probably criminals
taken out of prison, sent to
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the ships on the condition that if
they helped in this task, they would
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be forgiven for their crimes. Then
they were very, very dangerous people,
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very rough, but still they were
not prepared to meet what was traditional in
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Mexico. We understand that here they
cut off an individual' s chest,
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took out his heart and spread the
body and that, for example, the
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pozole that we now enjoy so much. Well, actually, if he had
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human flesh, okay, and it' s not like they fed on human
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flesh. It wasn' t a
cannibal town. It was a town that
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had a ritual that eventually included human
flesh intake, but the handling of bodies
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and everything was quite everyday. But
that wasn' t all they had to
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do with it. In Mexico there
were many stories. People told many stories
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and this made it easier for chroniclers
to tell some of these stories. And
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when they get to the Tlaxcala area, within the many things they hear was
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the legend of the tlahuelpuchis and they
know why they told them. Come on.
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You don' t think the Spaniards
came and the people came quickly to
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tell you, you hear the legend
of my people about such a thing.
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No, of course there was no
certain fear these strange characters and obviously the
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news was flying that where they were
passing wreaked havoc. However, the real
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reason I told them the story is
no other, but they saw it,
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according to that very ancient tradition.
When the Spaniards arrive in 1, 500
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twenty, more or less, they
observe something that happens in the area of
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what today is the malinche and ask
what they answer to nail the puchis and
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they ask what it is and then
tell them the story. And that'
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s how it comes to our day. Of course, she' s still
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alive. It is a legend that
has not disappeared and that is in force,
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but it does not arrive because some
of these chroniclers who heard what the
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people of those places explained kept it. The funny thing is that what the
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tlage the puchis already told him,
the name comes from this species as a
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brazier or from this kind of hornito, from this small brazier that is used
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to burn the cupal and incense,
but that shines, that is, they
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used that definition rather and the correct
translation would be rather like fog that shines.
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They described women in the communities as
what was happening. Sometimes small children
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disappeared or were found within the house
dead without blood, with very peculiar wounds,
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or were found outside in pens,
equally without blood, dead. People
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at the time believed that this was
because of women who had the ease to
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transform themselves as if they were naguals, to transform themselves into animals to do
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this damage. These women, who
could be regarded as what we would call
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witches, fed on a daily basis
of common food and could go unnoticed completely,
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given that their human appearance was normal
the appearance of an ordinary person.
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However, the strikepuchis were born with
a drink the puchis were born with these
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gifts that developed from adolescence. Up
to that point, no Tlahuelpuchi could know
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what that was. From adolescence,
these women began to develop a need for
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human blood, especially infant blood.
According to legend, each of these people
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learned in their own way why.
Because the Tlahuelpuchi, at least in understanding
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this region of the Center, was
not part of a guild like the witches
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in Europe who made covenants or covenants
in Mexico. They were people who suddenly
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realized they were this and, obviously, it was not something that could be
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discussed with the whole colony. It
was a matter that developed little by little.
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It could be because of a cursed
inheritance, that is, because they
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had been bewitched or cursed by a
similar person another, because, indeed,
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there would have been some contact of
the parent with an atlahuelpuchi. While this
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type of Mexican vampire preferred to attack
an infant, if not, he could
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also attack an adult. Pollution,
unlike European belief, would not occur in
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the adult himself, but in his
offspring, so that the adult could go
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on without presenting any symptoms, without
any problem, but his child would be
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born with this disease or with this
strange suffering or characteristic, so that,
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when he reaches adolescence, this woman. Because, while some claim that there
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could also be men with these characteristics, the vast majority were women, since
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men would probably die very soon before
developing skills. Once he starts feeling the
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need, he' s going to
look for it and he' s going
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to find a way. Sometimes,
one atlago, the puchi passed the knowledge
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to another let me talk to him. This is because, besides, it
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' s very interesting. In ancient
belief, they could be recognized, for
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example, in the street, in
a lot of people, in a market,
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and the other people saw two women
alike, common and ordinary in traditional
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clothing, with nothing particular, but
they would immediately recognize each other. Usually,
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they' d both give in.
The Tlahulpuche was very territorial. It
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was therefore possible to know who might
be the one that affected a certain region.
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But eventually, when they came across
the road with another they immediately recognized
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each other. Two things could happen, one that immediately went away without saying
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a word to not be evident and
not be put at risk, or two
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that one of them would introduce the
other into the world of vampirism, that
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is, realize that the other did
not yet know what this was like and
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then teach it. In that case, over time, both could share certain
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experiences. While each would hunt on
their own, while each would have its
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own family, yes, eventually they
would have encounters. Now. The Tlahuelpuche
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was an ordinary ordinary woman. So, I was going to have a husband,
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I was going to have some kids
and I' m going to have
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some brothers, some cousins, some
guys. According to tradition a ta tlau,
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the puchi never attacks a relative,
unless it is to kill him,
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to force him, to keep quiet. Otherwise, she' d be condemning
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herself. Therefore, he can develop
a large family and will never attack one
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of his family members. Another thing, he' s not just gonna have
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a family. Following the European tradition
and seeing what Mexican trahuelpuchi are considered there
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would also be very long- lived. Five or six times the age of
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life of a normal human being.
Therefore, an atlago the puchi would have
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a family and then look for another
place to have a second family, because
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obviously there would come a time when
someone would realize that this woman does not
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age. That was the secret,
an atlago, the puchi will die when
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he stops doing what he knows how
to do. Now, what does the
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tlag know how to do? The
puchi sucks blood. He doesn' t
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do it every day, it'
s not his only food, it'
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s not the only thing he'
s gonna do all day. No.
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According to tradition, blood intake occurs
about, two or three times a month,
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no more, and only occurs from
adolescence. But how is this.
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He just comes knocks on the door
and says listen excuse me you have a
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newborn, allows me to suck your
blood. Of course it does not use
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zoomorphosis, that is, transformation into
an animal according to ancient rituals, at
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least with ancient beliefs. The nahual
could, through certain enchantments, certain dances,
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certain chants transform from human to animal
to go, to steal, to
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go to kill, to do many
things in the same way the tlago the
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puchi could do, only it was
a little more complicated. The first requires
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burning a number of substances, among
which was the cupal, in which there
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is also incense capulin rod and even
some herbs that produce strong odors. Once
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this is burning and releasing a huge
amount of smoke, she feels no forgiveness
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before she does what they call her
the pass, that is, she crosses
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over this species, this kind of
anaphre. It goes over three times in
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three directions. Never to the west. It starts from the north, returns
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to the south and then jumps to
the east and then sits looking towards the
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west and then, according to tradition, it will come off the legs,
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the arms of what he doesn'
t need and the transformation into an animal
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begins. Obviously, this requires that
it not be discovered. Therefore, he
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will seek to do so in a
remote remote place, since if he lives
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in a family, at some point, one of the members of the family
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could notice even only by the smell
or by the presence of NAFRE the one
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where he is burning things, so
he will prefer to move away to some
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hill. But of course it'
s not that simple. Tell me if
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you, right now that you hear
me, could just at eleven o'
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clock at night say dearest forgiveness.
I' m gonna go get some buns
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and come back in the morning.
Obviously, someone' s gonna ask what
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you' re going to. Therefore, the drink the puchi used to sleep
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the whole family through something in the
food, through something at dinner or simply
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through what we would call the breath, a kind of bao that sleeps people.
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Using this, sleep the family.
But to avoid suspicions, he'
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s capable of the mountain. Already
on the mountain he makes the spells and
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hides the remains of his body and
then travels in a very simple way,
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either as a dog, as a
zopilot or as a nocturnal animal like even
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a large guajolote. At a distance, however, they can be distinguished.
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That' s where the name Tlahue
the puchi comes from, as in the
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distance they are seen to shine as
if they were surrounded by fire fireballs of
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fire. Of course, once they
get to a place, what people are
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going to see is an animal.
It can be from a tecolote, a
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chicken, something that goes unnoticed.
The great advantage of drinking, puchi,
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at least according to tradition and belief, is that it can opt for harmless
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- looking animals. What use it
would be to transform himself into a dragon.
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They would make the whole town rise
up in arms and organize a hunt,
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therefore, a hen, a dog, something everyday to enter the home
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and then attack. That' s
a part that has caught my attention enormously.
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I was talking to them. These
beings transform, but as they transform,
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they obviously shed this kind of glow
that would seem to be a ball
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of fire. But when they reach
fate, it' s hard to tell
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it apart. So, if anyone
hears a flutter on the roof of your
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house peeks out, there' s
going to be an animal and a point,
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but that' s the interesting part. If the tlau, the puchi
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enters probably look for the smallest at
that point, it will use those same,
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those same abilities or that kind of
power. Let' s call him
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that so no one notices. He' ll take the infant, drink the
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blood. Maybe I' ll do
it right there, or I' ll
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go out on the ground somewhere nearby, and then it disappears at dawn here
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Nothing happened. When her family wakes
up, they' re going to find
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her doing food or anything or even
getting dressed to go to work. Because
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this is a story that is still
alive today. It is not a story
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of the 15th century, but a
story that is still alive today. Now,
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let' s get on with the
legend. We' ll see some
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business later. There the legend tells
that once the drink, the puchi satisfied
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this need for blood can pass even
weeks without bothering anyone, but yes,
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for example, there is a serious
case in which there is no infant.
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It may happen that the tlahuel puchi
assaults some night traveler, especially or some
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adult. At this point it is
when the contamination occurs and if that person
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comes to have offspring, probably among
the descendants there is a tlahuelpuche. They
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are not eternal, no, of
course, they are not alive. They
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are living beings, unlike the European
vampire, who is an undead, that
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is, an animated corpse. These
are living things. They can eat common
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food, they can lead a common
life, they can look like ordinary people,
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but deep down they continue with this
dynamic and longevity about four or five
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generations. Some accounts from a long
time ago said that people who had been
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known by the great- grandparents who
spoke of that person were known, yet
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the person was still alive and still
looked the same. So, well,
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yeah, they' re a lot
longer than a normal human being. How
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to protect yourself from it is very
simple and this I do to me.
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It was my turn to see him, in fact, in a house where
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there was a newborn many years ago. I was still touched by a house
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where when I arrived there were scissors, big scissors some scissors to cut chicken
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at different points tied with red slats. It was my turn to see a
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bucket of water under the crib and
a mirror at the door. They were
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different tricks. Formerly it was said
that in order to avoid the attack of
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an atlage, the puuchi could be
used from plants, such as garlic,
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but not only garlic in the European
sense of hanging a necklace of garlic,
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but placed on an tortilla between the
baby' s clothes. Another was,
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for example, placing the scissors under
the baby' s bed. But sometimes,
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when living in very precarious conditions and
the baby slept in the petate with
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the parents, they could choose to
place a large metal object under the petate,
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such as a machete, as long
as it was placed with another on
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the cross, the mirror could also
be placed. This tool was very good,
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because Tlahuelpuchi, in its animal state
or in its human state, is
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still reflected as human. Therefore,
it was useful to unmask her. Thus,
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she, crossing in front of a
mirror and turning around and being reflected,
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would panic and run out and,
of course, there were other remedies,
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not even burning some things to drive
them away if it was known that
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they were on their way because you
could see they could burn some herbs,
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chilies and different products from the region. Also incense the cupal caused people to
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walk away could see them from a
long distance and warn that they were there
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Now why do I say they were
there? Because sometimes they were together.
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While the hunt is not shared,
they could be seen together. That'
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s why I was explaining to you
that they recognize each other. They can
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even work together when it refers,
for example, to something that puts them
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at risk. A witch hunt,
for example, can put them at risk
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once a witch is detected. The
oldest tradition said that by burning the members
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that was falling apart. That I' m not really sure could do,
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but well, burning or just catching
her when she comes home and kills the
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other one, trapping her during the
attack and killing her For that it would
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take cutting off heads and doing a
lot of barbarities. This is all part
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of the law. Now, the
legend also has a very interesting part,
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and it is that, over the
years we have been talking to people who
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have heard stories from me personally,
I have had to talk to many people
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who have seen witches and are not
ugly old ladies with warts riding in a
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broom flying in the middle of the
night. They refer to the fireballs and
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the people I' ve spoken to
have the least suitable profile to be fanciful
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and have told me now. Why
this is not so frequent. First,
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because it' s not a frequent
matter. They already existed in that age
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of these legends, but they were
not so abundant out there everywhere. Second,
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where you could do a ritual today
in the city of Puebla. Let
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' s think you live in two
in San Sebastián de aparicio. Where he
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would have to go first walking in
the middle of the night to make a
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bonfire, burn herbs and do the
whole ritual to the hill of Malucan does
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not come alive, Where he could
go to do it in his house.
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No man, I' d probably
live in a 28- square- foot
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house and there you can' t
make a saumerium believe me. Besides,
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who among us today hears a hen
flapping the roof and is going to put
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on irons and mirrors. Most likely
someone comes out, shoots him and cooks
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him, because he is. The
city. It' s a very complex
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city. However, this is still
happening on the outskirts, where a person
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could go out and do all this. I know it sounds fantasy. You
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can explain to me in a thousand
ways what witches are. At some point
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someone told me they were decomposition gases. No. No, no, it
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' s gases that decompose. A
decomposing gas is a product that is decomposing
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and releasing a good gas. It
came off if, by chance, there
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' s something that can turn it
on and on, because it' s
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on and it' s over.
It' s a fireball and it'
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s over. He doesn' t
believe me. Throw a lighter at a
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fire and you' ll see what
happens. That' s 100% gas
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fuel. It' s a flame
and it' s over. And this
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can last a long time moving without
turning off. Now, you must remember
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it because this happened here in Pueblanada
a six or seven years on the Tlisco
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road, on the Lisco highway,
there was a camp of road people who
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were doing some repairs back then and
they began to see precisely fireballs coming from
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an added street, going up and
down. This caused them to panic.
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Even the camp manager called to ask
for support from someone who could turn that
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off, thinking it was a fire
and threatening the camp, where there were
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machines and so on. At that
time, a state police patrol arrived,
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who came to see what was happening
and stayed there They called for civil protection
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support. Civil protection came and they
stayed there to see what that was,
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because it wasn' t what they
expected. These were two fireballs, as
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they narrated, coming up from the
glen, reaching a certain point, turning
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around and coming down, and so
they were until some point before dawn came
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a reporter from Atlisco, from a
sister station of us. Over there from
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Atlisco. Who could see what was
going on and document how the state police,
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civil protection, the people from the
truckers' camp and the journalist were
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there, watching those fireballs go up
and down. After a while, the
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fireballs went away and disappeared into the
glen. They didn' t do anything
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or at least they didn' t
see him do anything, but they won
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' t burn either. They burned
nothing. The description of the place was
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his own so everything would have been
burned. However, grassland. It didn
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' t burn, it didn'
t burn the bushes, it didn'
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t burn anything at all. Already
when dawn and that leaves the characters,
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those who were there come down to
the area where they had seen these phenomena.
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And ironically there are no traces of
fire, no burning grass, nothing.
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This happened six years ago. It
was news. We had a chance
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to interview in those years the news
person who was there and well, it
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was a very interesting story. But
I' ve come across similar ones.
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One of them is in Pachuca,
Hidalgo. There I have been told of
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an event that occurred in the seventies, rather than in the early eighties eighty
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- one, eighty- two,
thinking about the age of these people and
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well, this family, a family
of evangelical Christian faith, moves to live
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there because of work, to a
house that was on the outskirts already at
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the foot of the mountain and moreover, it was in the back of a
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property. From there there was a
lot of hills and a beautiful landscape.
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In that family there were three children, six years old, eight years old
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and probably ten. In the next
house there was also a similar couple of
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children and they start playing together.
Very soon they become good friends and jump
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from one side to the other and
throw parties until an afternoon where at dusk,
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they kept hanging there from a swing
they had and shouting happy of life.
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And the mother of the other group
of children rushes in, the lady
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enters at full speed, calling her
children and calling the mother of this other
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family. When she goes out and
meets the two moms, she tells her
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very excited, very frantic, to
get the kids in the house because the
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witches are coming. Obviously, the
lady, who was an evangelical Christian,
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was not quite sure what this lady
was talking about. If it was a
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superstition, if it was something,
then I didn' t understand. This
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lady is just saying please, get
her children, close the doors, close
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the windows in one room and obviously
there were no crucifixes to put on,
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but if there were scissors to hang, scissors to the window and the door
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and not let them leave for any
reason anywhere, the person who narrated it
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to us remembered very clearly of that
incident, that well, for not ruining
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the thing to the neighbor. This
lady puts her children in, closes the
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door, closes the window and looks
out the window to see what to go
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to all this mess. And then
watch in the distance the lady herself how
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those fireballs appear in the distance.
They didn' t come together. I
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' d come one over there and
one over here. Like flying over trees,
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jumping from one tree to another.
Suddenly I was going down to the
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ground, suddenly I was coming back
up. They are not very large trees
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and they are not very abundant.
They' re more of a kind of
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casserole. Then he jumps from one
to the other until he walks away from
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where these two houses were and he' s going to get in the lower
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zone already. And that' s
the next day. Well, the kids
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are going to sleep, all quiet, all very quiet. The next day,
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well, everybody gets up like nothing
else, the kids go to school.
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A little later the neighbor gossips.
We see him like this and he
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tells him that he had seen each
other. And if you tell him if
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I saw anything in heaven, who
knows what witches were. Wait for you
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and we' ll hear from some
little boy who died. In fact,
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during the course of the day news
came that two or three blocks down in
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a house where there was a little
boy of months had died the baby had
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strange marks on his arms and face
and had dawned dead. A thousand nine
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hundred and eighty- eight. Do
not think that there is in the time
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of the colony and this has been
told to me by someone who surprised me
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because I would not expect it.
But besides these, well, there are
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a lot of others. It has
touched me, as I said, to
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enter still a house where we were
casually throwing line outside, we were topography
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for a play and the very attentive
neighbors invited us to have a drink,
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to cool ourselves a little towards a
heat of the devil and during the conversation
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there in broad features. I noticed
the detail of the mirror at the door,
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the bucket of water, under the
cradle and several elements that were out
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there and already asking more in confidence, why for the witches. But there
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' s actually a huge difference.
An atlago, the puche is not a
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witch. The witch' s idea
is that of a sorcerer is a person
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who makes spells, who makes spells
to affect or for whatever the tlagelpuche is
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a vampire, although he can eat
normal food, he requires the blood to
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live and continue living. A curious
detail that we were told many years ago
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was that there was a woman in
a village of Querétaro, who had her
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children, had her husband and saw
the husband die first then saw the children
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die and the woman still looked the
same. After a while, the woman
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was no longer seen. People thought
he might have died. Some time later,
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however, news came from one of
these men who was on the verge
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of having seen her in a town
in the State of Mexico, just as
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young as another man with other children. Some time later there was news that
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he had been seen in another town
with another man exactly the same. The
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three stories they told were from a
great- grandfather, then a great-
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grandfather and then a grandfather. Three
generations had heard and had seen this woman
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look exactly the same. Curious the
similarities between a European legend and a Mexican
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legend. Anyway, thank you so
much for your company. Thanks to Doña
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Blandina, who, as always,
is accompanying us and listening very soon,
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