La ouija || Relatos del lado oscuro (Podcast)

WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:04.280
Let' s talk about the ouija. There are certain rules, there are

2
00:00:04.280 --> 00:00:07.960
certain concepts. The fact is that, for some time, stories in the

3
00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:12.279
sense of how evil the ouija can
be have permeated very deeply in society and

4
00:00:12.279 --> 00:00:17.120
the simple word, sometimes it awakens
a bit of excursor a bit of fear

5
00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:22.719
and, in others a deep curiosity. A deep curiosity that has mingled with

6
00:00:23.199 --> 00:00:27.039
the desire to know the hidden,
but also with the curiosity of finding answers

7
00:00:27.079 --> 00:00:40.359
to our daily questions, accounts of
the dark side, beings, strangers,

8
00:00:41.039 --> 00:01:00.759
events, is inexplicable, stories that
other minds prefer ignorant for those people who

9
00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:06.359
still do not know very well what
a daughter is. It is a very

10
00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:11.120
simple device, It is a thin
wooden board, probably of compressed wood,

11
00:01:12.079 --> 00:01:18.840
a kind of acerrin that is compressed
by mixing it with resins and whose surface

12
00:01:18.920 --> 00:01:23.680
is varnished to give it a very
soft touch, very very soft, as

13
00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:27.640
if it were a furniture of wood
finely varnished. On the surface are distributed

14
00:01:27.680 --> 00:01:34.840
all letters from the a to the
z. At the same time, on

15
00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:42.280
the top right is a word no
and on the left side the word yes.

16
00:01:42.120 --> 00:01:48.519
It also has a series of numbers
from zero to nine placed in the

17
00:01:48.560 --> 00:01:56.040
bottom. Another element is the pointer
or plancheta. It consists basically of a

18
00:01:56.200 --> 00:02:00.280
triangular shape figure, whether plastic or
life, which can even be replaced with

19
00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:07.040
the use of a small glass of
a glass for wine that is placed face

20
00:02:07.079 --> 00:02:10.719
down. As you can see,
it' s a very simple thing.

21
00:02:12.599 --> 00:02:17.960
His story goes back some time.
The first versions appear about 1, 800

22
00:02:19.039 --> 00:02:24.319
when the rise of English spiritism begins
and the ouija is used for a form

23
00:02:24.479 --> 00:02:30.479
of spiritist session. But it is
not precisely at that moment that it seems

24
00:02:30.520 --> 00:02:36.759
that there are some forms of necromancy, of knowledge, of contact with the

25
00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:40.319
dead that used a similar device,
perhaps not identical, but similar. In

26
00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:45.639
a time that has been documented,
perhaps Greek, perhaps Roman, there is

27
00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:50.560
no exact precision in this sense and
the historical studies that may have been precarious

28
00:02:50.680 --> 00:02:57.280
are scarce. It has not really
been taken as an important subject for archaeology,

29
00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:04.039
let alone for anthropology. His first
discoveries are simply documented the first moments

30
00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:09.599
around 1, 800 and then he
begins to popularize greatly, precisely in that

31
00:03:09.639 --> 00:03:15.599
boom of Victorian English spiritism, when
different versions begin to circulate, the Egyptian

32
00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:22.639
daughter, the English daughter, the
French ouija, with simple variants. Some

33
00:03:22.879 --> 00:03:27.199
present the letters in the form of
a circle, others in the form of

34
00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:31.400
a straight line, others at a
crossroads of letters that come and go without

35
00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:35.800
any order. But in any case, the history of the huija continues.

36
00:03:37.039 --> 00:03:42.199
When years later it becomes so popular
that it begins to be industrially produced.

37
00:03:43.560 --> 00:03:49.120
To that point, people made their
own sting by placing letters on a waxed

38
00:03:49.759 --> 00:03:54.439
wood and an inverted glass, a
glass of inverted glass. Later it begins

39
00:03:54.520 --> 00:03:59.759
to become more popular and it is
in the 20th century when it is patented

40
00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:04.879
by an American company known as Parker
Brothers, now owned by Hasbro, the

41
00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:13.639
important toy producer brand. The point
is that the daughter is an easy to

42
00:04:13.639 --> 00:04:18.040
get or relatively easy article over the
years. In this 21st century it is

43
00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:21.480
no longer as popular as it was
in the past and it is not as

44
00:04:21.560 --> 00:04:25.360
easy to find it in any toy
shop. Many of the malls, supermarkets

45
00:04:25.839 --> 00:04:30.439
and others have removed this product from
their shelves, as for years, there

46
00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:38.839
have been all sorts of stories around
the huija, macabre stories and mystery stories,

47
00:04:38.959 --> 00:04:45.160
suspense stories, ghost stories and possessions. But the daughter herself continues to

48
00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:50.879
be the same piece of compressed wood
with a soft surface on which this slips

49
00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:56.240
the pointer or planchet or the cup, as she is also called in some

50
00:04:56.279 --> 00:05:00.600
parts of the world. The central
objective of the game, or if we

51
00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:05.600
call it a game, is to
contact an alleged entity that will answer our

52
00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:12.439
questions. Basically it consists of sitting, whether two three, four people,

53
00:05:13.000 --> 00:05:16.839
those who can place their hands,
particularly their fingers, the tips of their

54
00:05:16.920 --> 00:05:23.639
fingers with comfort on the pointer or
plancheta. Once this is done, you

55
00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:30.040
start asking questions and apparently something answers, as the pointer moves by pointing letters.

56
00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:38.120
This object, this piece of plastic
glass that is placed on the ouija

57
00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:43.680
begins to move in a way that
is placed over one letter and then over

58
00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:47.920
another in a few words spell out
the answers, either with numbers or full

59
00:05:48.279 --> 00:05:55.360
words or phrases. The fact is
that these people who are there see how

60
00:05:55.519 --> 00:05:59.439
the object moves on the wood surface
as they pull their fingers are this over

61
00:05:59.439 --> 00:06:04.079
it. That is the mechanism in
appearance is very simple, but there are

62
00:06:04.199 --> 00:06:10.439
certain conditioning factors. For example,
the holding of the ouija board is on

63
00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:15.480
a flat surface and makes a table
or on the knees that all the time

64
00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:19.480
the fingers, either by placing only
the tips of the index fingers, the

65
00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:26.519
index finger bud or by placing two
fingers the index placed on the pointer during

66
00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:31.639
the time the questions are asked is
recommended within the instructives that a single person

67
00:06:31.680 --> 00:06:40.759
is the one who asks the question
aloud. The others will remain as a

68
00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:46.319
kind of extra channel, but only
one of them should be the voice that

69
00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:51.160
sends the run. It has been
used to ask inconsequential questions or to ask

70
00:06:51.240 --> 00:06:55.920
transcendent questions. It' s been
used to ask who' s going to

71
00:06:56.040 --> 00:07:00.199
be my boyfriend if this guy I
like like likes me if I' m

72
00:07:00.240 --> 00:07:03.439
going to make money, if I' m going to go well in business

73
00:07:03.480 --> 00:07:04.920
or just if there' s life
after death, if there' s god.

74
00:07:05.399 --> 00:07:10.759
Things like that have always been present, as you see, the answers.

75
00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:15.120
The answers can be very, very
disturbing, as some of these answers

76
00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:21.839
even provoke a kind of addiction.
Some psychology specialists say that, beyond the

77
00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:27.959
dark or negative part or the spiritual
and paranormal question that may be behind the

78
00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:32.120
daughter, the one who a person
seeks answers, although it is entirely natural,

79
00:07:32.800 --> 00:07:36.040
is not entirely healthy, since it
can generate a kind of addiction.

80
00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:45.160
The search continues in not being able
to take a step without having consulted him.

81
00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:47.720
This phenomenon is very repetitive, especially
when we talk about the realm of

82
00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:54.480
the occult. People who at some
point have consulted with a fortune teller often

83
00:07:55.399 --> 00:08:01.319
become very addicted to these, whether
the term can be applied or at least

84
00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:07.519
very prone to seek answers all the
time, answers to everyday things. But

85
00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:11.160
the runaway as such has faced skeptics
and believers on more than one occasion as

86
00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:18.439
it works. There are many answers
that we will try to discuss throughout the

87
00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:24.120
program who the person or what answers. Similarly, there are many positions in

88
00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:26.959
this regard that if it is about
oneself, as such, it is a

89
00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:31.159
spiritual entity, and there are even
those who claim that it can be an

90
00:08:31.200 --> 00:08:39.440
extraterrestrial presence. As you see,
the phenomenon is complex and the study of

91
00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:45.200
it is also complex, since it
involves spiritual beliefs and beliefs also in the

92
00:08:45.519 --> 00:08:50.120
realm of the parapsychological, that is, paranormal beliefs, but within the mental

93
00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:54.240
environment. Either way, the game
remains in force and day by day there

94
00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:58.360
will be no lack of any curious
who acquires or gets through a loan or

95
00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:03.519
some acquaintance one of these boards and
starts to play it, if you can

96
00:09:03.559 --> 00:09:11.759
call it game this. Some others
consider it simply a fun. The instruction

97
00:09:11.840 --> 00:09:15.720
itself that comes in the box or
came in the box for some time now

98
00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:20.679
claimed that it was an Egyptian game
and that it was not dangerous, but

99
00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:26.039
that it was not a game either, perhaps in part to provoke more curiosity

100
00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:31.000
or perhaps in part to prevent some
those who advanced in this step and walked

101
00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:35.360
on the path of mystery. In
any case, the fact is that the

102
00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:41.480
huija is still today, providing us
with very gruesome accounts, which speak of

103
00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:46.000
strange situations and presences. It is
not surprising that it has also motivated the

104
00:09:46.039 --> 00:09:52.559
intervention of people of the most varied, from the famous demonologists Ed and Loren

105
00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:58.240
Warren, who went into this field
of the research of the daughter board after

106
00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:03.480
knowing numerous accounts of pons affected areas
for having participated in this game, to

107
00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:09.480
very clear people, such as,
for example, Paco Azorín, the Spanish

108
00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:16.639
parapsychological researcher, who assures that the
board is more a mental matter than a

109
00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:20.960
physical matter and that it is finally
a game of self- knowledge, although

110
00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:26.480
it also assures there are certain edges
in this matter. Other specialists in personality

111
00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:33.960
and psychiatric issues handle as an expression
of the subconscious, answers of which we

112
00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:41.440
are not entirely clear. During our
life our daily way of walking and they

113
00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:46.200
manifest themselves through this game. Finally, it would be an involuntary movement,

114
00:10:46.559 --> 00:10:50.879
if you want, but a movement
coming from ourselves. Anyway, the daughter

115
00:10:52.399 --> 00:10:58.080
is there and we' ll be
talking about her throughout the night. I

116
00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:03.320
turn to them that some of the
accounts may become disturbing, others are probably

117
00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:09.120
curious and some more enlighten us a
little bit about the phenononology for psychological that

118
00:11:09.159 --> 00:11:13.679
can underlie the child board. Finally, that remains a piece of wood with

119
00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:18.399
a piece of plastic or glass,
moving from one side to the other.

120
00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:24.399
It feels simple, doesn' t
it, it feels easy to place your

121
00:11:24.440 --> 00:11:28.320
fingers and wait for it to move
ask some questions around and find an answer

122
00:11:28.440 --> 00:11:33.600
that may not even be satisfactory,
or just spend the night with our fingers

123
00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:39.200
extended without getting any contact. But
we didn' t really establish contact.

124
00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:45.960
Remember that not all phenomena manifest themselves. That is an important point to deal

125
00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:50.480
with. I invite you to stay
with me when tonight we walk a small

126
00:11:50.519 --> 00:11:56.840
road that leads to the board.
Daughter, your name Wow is very simple.

127
00:11:56.399 --> 00:12:03.600
Some claim that Wija means yes.
Derived from French Hui, which means

128
00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:09.919
yes and derived from German, as
it also means yes. Exact Creator.

129
00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:13.679
Parker Brothers does not have a marketer
from many years ago, although there are

130
00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:20.639
also some different emissions. There are
small variants that have been published or produced

131
00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:24.080
by other toy companies. In any
case, the article as such is a

132
00:12:24.120 --> 00:12:28.600
piece of wood without any meaning,
except for a few letters that accumulate on

133
00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:33.799
its surface and a small object that
moves from one side to the other.

134
00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:41.080
What does all this mean? Then
good to be a real object. It

135
00:12:41.120 --> 00:12:43.559
would be a means of contact,
as for example, a crystal ball has

136
00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:48.440
served fortune tellers for many years,
just as a tray with water has been

137
00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:54.720
used as a form of divination cards
and so on. The ouija would be

138
00:12:54.799 --> 00:13:01.399
a tool, a tool to focus
on us, to focus our attention on

139
00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:05.440
something, but at the same time
to give the other side If this is

140
00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:09.759
the possibility of response. That is
whether the ouija, like a crystal ball,

141
00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:13.639
serves us to focus on ourselves and
that through it we give an answer

142
00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:18.080
or manifest what we are invoking,
just as with water, that this is

143
00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:22.320
an interesting point that at some point
we will deal with where the person concentrates

144
00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:30.159
on the reflection of the water and
then there the contact occurs. It must

145
00:13:30.159 --> 00:13:33.600
be understood that, if it is
true and from a paranormal point of view,

146
00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:37.679
the ouija serves so that those entities
that cannot be made present in a

147
00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:45.320
natural way or are worth the expression
without an invitation, can do so and

148
00:13:45.440 --> 00:13:48.080
manifest their answers, whether they are
disincarnated beings, of ourselves, of our

149
00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:54.960
subconscious, myokinetic reflection or simply the
mental projection of someone we are contacting via

150
00:13:54.080 --> 00:14:01.320
telepathic. The fact is that,
for years people raise sense and experience strange

151
00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:09.799
things around the board from a rational, clearly investigative point of view and from

152
00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:16.799
the realm of the physical, Keeping
hands in a certain position for a reasonably

153
00:14:16.840 --> 00:14:20.440
long period of time, which can
go from a few seconds to a few

154
00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:28.679
minutes, means placing us in an
uncomfortable unnatural position. This may reflect an

155
00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:37.039
effect known as ideomotor reflex or neokinetic
reflex. Basically, and if we are

156
00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:41.879
faithful to the physiological research that falls
within the realm of medicine, from the

157
00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:46.519
realm of the logical of the rational
to keep our hands raised in that position,

158
00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:50.200
which also obliges us not to have
elbows supported on the table or on

159
00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:54.679
anything, since in order to let
the piece that, the pointer move freely,

160
00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:58.720
we must keep the elbows a little
suspended in the air and let the

161
00:15:00.159 --> 00:15:05.559
arms and hands move freely. This
means keeping hands in an unnatural position for

162
00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:13.759
some time. As a result,
muscles begin to present certain reflexes. Try,

163
00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:20.120
keep your hand up for two or
three minutes in the air, raise

164
00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:24.559
your elbow and keep your hand there
and after a while, you will notice

165
00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:31.879
that your fingers begin to make a
small movement, as if by comparing it

166
00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:37.919
to blinking this movement or reflection,
according to some specialists, it is basically

167
00:15:37.919 --> 00:15:41.279
what causes the movement, the movement
of the board. The board or daughter

168
00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:46.039
that we have here one side fell. This basically means that it would be

169
00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:50.759
an entirely explicable physical effect. You' ve known this for a long time.

170
00:15:50.879 --> 00:15:56.320
In fact, a researcher on the
board bears the eye and also a

171
00:15:56.320 --> 00:15:58.919
researcher doctor and so on, in
a thousand eight hundred and eighty- eight

172
00:15:58.919 --> 00:16:03.279
say this is a long time ago. He postulated that the movement of the

173
00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:08.159
board was basically the movement and an
engine. What this means Also go open

174
00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:14.480
a question there if this is due
to a reflex movement. The letters,

175
00:16:14.639 --> 00:16:19.519
obviously that will come out as advance
the pointer would be erratic, since we

176
00:16:19.600 --> 00:16:23.000
do not control the movement, since
it is reflex, it is involuntary.

177
00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:26.360
It is a movement due to the
tiredness of the arms. Therefore, the

178
00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:33.480
pointer would go in any direction,
depending on which of the members, that

179
00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:37.679
is, of those who are participating, have the highest incidence of my genetic

180
00:16:37.720 --> 00:16:42.320
reflex, that is, if there
is someone stronger and their spasmodic movements are

181
00:16:42.399 --> 00:16:48.840
stronger, these involuntary reflexes, then
that will be the one who guides the

182
00:16:48.840 --> 00:16:53.559
pointer. But as it is an
involuntary and irrational movement, empty spaces will

183
00:16:53.679 --> 00:16:59.159
appear all of a sudden. The
pointer will be directed to any letter and

184
00:16:59.159 --> 00:17:02.759
so on. But there is one
explanation here that is merely physiological. The

185
00:17:02.840 --> 00:17:08.039
person who has his fingers on there
and has an involuntary movement. At some

186
00:17:08.119 --> 00:17:14.559
point, your brain sends the order
to stop, to stop where it finds

187
00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:19.240
meaning. This is common to paranormal
phenomenology. When we see something and do

188
00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:25.440
not have an explanation, we identify
it and give it a value, identity

189
00:17:25.480 --> 00:17:27.279
and weight. Thus, for example, a stain on the wall that has

190
00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:33.359
no interference, which has no hidden
meaning in our view of human beings,

191
00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:37.279
can acquire value. This value can
be that of a face, that of

192
00:17:37.319 --> 00:17:41.319
a monster, that of a bird, that of a landscape, any number

193
00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:47.319
of things. Something similar would happen
on the wigen board when our hands slide

194
00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:51.640
and if the board did not match
or the pointer did not match a letter.

195
00:17:52.759 --> 00:17:57.640
Our movements, though involuntary, would
tend to emboss the pointer with a

196
00:17:57.759 --> 00:18:03.480
letter. For the next few minutes, we' d have a letter there.

197
00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:10.599
But again comes the question. This
would mean that to a given question,

198
00:18:10.759 --> 00:18:17.200
for example, the classic question exists
the sky and what the answer is.

199
00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:22.839
It would be random, ah da
blues general t p b instead of

200
00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:26.079
being yes or no and it'
s pretty or it' s ugly.

201
00:18:26.559 --> 00:18:32.440
This detail escapes Carpenter' s explanation. Evidently, the answers on the huija

202
00:18:32.480 --> 00:18:37.759
board are not due to involuntary movement
or random movement, as they have coherence

203
00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:45.000
and meaning, have an order and
words can be articulated even in different languages.

204
00:18:47.279 --> 00:18:51.640
Some people claim to have held guided
sessions in which the presences that happen

205
00:18:51.759 --> 00:18:57.000
or that participate in the encounter dialogue
in different languages, coming up with the

206
00:18:57.039 --> 00:19:00.880
case even in which you get to
speak at the same time, while in

207
00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:06.680
Spanish some answers, in English some
answers and in French other answers, when

208
00:19:06.759 --> 00:19:11.200
those present are polyglots. Generally,
the phenomenon does not occur when all present

209
00:19:11.279 --> 00:19:17.279
speak the same language. This point
has also been considered very strongly within the

210
00:19:17.359 --> 00:19:21.400
realm of skepticism, when it is
explained that the movement is provoked by people,

211
00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:26.079
since if no one speaks French,
the board does not respond French.

212
00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:30.319
But for people who study the paranormal, this would be a simple answer.

213
00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:36.920
The answer is if that presence that
is there can know of ourselves that we

214
00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:41.279
are playing on the board. Obviously, you will know that we do not

215
00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:47.000
speak another language and will try to
communicate in the language that we all understand

216
00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:49.519
trying, as well as to force
your answers. This theory is then called

217
00:19:49.640 --> 00:19:55.680
into question. If everything is the
product of reflex movement, for having kept

218
00:19:55.799 --> 00:20:00.240
your arms and hands in an uncomfortable
position for a long time, because then

219
00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:03.960
the words are articulated, because then
they have a coherence and an achievement.

220
00:20:04.519 --> 00:20:10.160
The letters are not identifiable. It' s not about guessing what he said.

221
00:20:10.680 --> 00:20:15.680
They are clear and concise words,
words that are completed. It'

222
00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:19.519
s not two or three letters and
guess what you said. These are clear

223
00:20:19.559 --> 00:20:23.200
answers. The theory of reflection and
motor. It is therefore ruled out.

224
00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:30.799
But then we have another theory,
the theory of automatic response. This automatic

225
00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:40.400
response would also be partially involuntary.
It' s like we' re moving

226
00:20:40.400 --> 00:20:45.200
the pointer, but at the same
time not tangled. Certainly, what does

227
00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:48.039
it mean. In essence, it
means that when you hear a question,

228
00:20:48.039 --> 00:20:53.279
we inadvertently answer it. So,
if someone asks the Ouija board, who

229
00:20:53.359 --> 00:20:57.279
is going to be the first to
die of those present here, obviously we

230
00:20:57.680 --> 00:21:03.799
are going to answer another of the
assistants, never ours. This would be

231
00:21:03.799 --> 00:21:07.680
involuntary. But as our hands are
the ones that are put forward on the

232
00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:12.079
pointer, if we are the channeler, the strong, the one that has

233
00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:18.599
the commanding movements, we will give
the answer that we have integrated from our

234
00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:25.960
subconscious and, therefore, would be
an automatic response, but at no time

235
00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:32.200
would it be a paranormal or spiritist
response. Still these messages. Some consider

236
00:21:32.200 --> 00:21:37.279
that these are answers given tricks.
Within the automatic theory are some postulates that

237
00:21:37.319 --> 00:21:42.160
insist on the joke. Some of
those present here want to play a joke

238
00:21:42.160 --> 00:21:48.160
on him and therefore move the pointer, sometimes even involuntarily, but move him

239
00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:55.960
to annoy another in response to some
quarrel, some discomfort. His subconscious would

240
00:21:56.000 --> 00:22:00.000
play jokes on that other one.
We' re gonna land a little more.

241
00:22:00.039 --> 00:22:03.839
I have a daughter board and I
have three friends who are sitting around

242
00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:07.720
it one of them asks who will
be the first to die. I have

243
00:22:07.799 --> 00:22:12.359
a certain antipathy for Peter, who
is sitting on the right side. I

244
00:22:12.440 --> 00:22:18.039
don' t say it, I
don' t answer that, but unconsciously,

245
00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:22.480
certain people feel a certain antipathy and
I would like him to be the

246
00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:25.440
first to die I move the pointer
inadvertently, but I' m directing him

247
00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:27.400
towards that. If there is another
person who thinks the same as Peter is

248
00:22:27.440 --> 00:22:32.599
the first to die because he also
likes it bad or simply because it is

249
00:22:32.640 --> 00:22:36.680
the first thing that occurred to him, then it will be two hands that

250
00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:41.480
are answering Peter, if the third, therefore, has the same idea as

251
00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:45.640
well. Well, it' s
clear that the pointer would move with incredible

252
00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:51.039
fluidity. However, it is highly
unlikely that all attendees to a daughter session

253
00:22:51.119 --> 00:22:56.400
will agree on the answer. Even
if out of four three people were in

254
00:22:57.240 --> 00:23:00.799
agreement to give the same answer,
even if it involved something that occurred to

255
00:23:00.839 --> 00:23:04.519
them, but they didn' t
want to say exactly what three agree with.

256
00:23:04.720 --> 00:23:07.559
One who disagrees, the pointer would
move in a different way and the

257
00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:14.480
answers would not be so clear.
In addition to this, if of four

258
00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:18.359
people present there, the question is
a little broader. How to obtain a

259
00:23:18.400 --> 00:23:22.440
coherent answer if Peter comes up with
an answer, to John another, to

260
00:23:22.519 --> 00:23:27.759
Louis another and to one other servant. Consequently, the pointer would simply remain

261
00:23:27.799 --> 00:23:33.240
trembling at the center of the daughter
board and would never plasm any response.

262
00:23:33.359 --> 00:23:42.880
Therefore, this is not an automatic
reflection either. Another theory to explain the

263
00:23:42.880 --> 00:23:49.839
functioning of the ouija is very interesting. It' s in the theory of

264
00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:56.880
the acassic record. You will see
for some believers in questions of high spirituality

265
00:23:57.160 --> 00:24:03.039
and spiritual survival and the existence of
planes of existence. There is a place

266
00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:07.559
where all information of all times is
stored at all times is known as the

267
00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:15.839
acassic record. A simple comparison would
be to think that all human beings poured

268
00:24:17.039 --> 00:24:22.279
or released sheets of paper. In
every sheet of paper goes one of our

269
00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:27.400
thoughts, one of our stories,
one of our daily events. And so

270
00:24:27.799 --> 00:24:33.799
all these leaflets make up a huge
book and in this book would be there

271
00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:38.400
the history of all time, of
all people who have lived and of everything

272
00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:42.559
that has happened to them throughout their
lives. But in the same way,

273
00:24:42.680 --> 00:24:48.240
the acasic record would also have everything
that is about to happen. It'

274
00:24:48.319 --> 00:24:52.279
s hard to understand the concept.
Some maintain a very simple comparison for Paco

275
00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:56.480
Azorín. It is a kind of
Internet where all human beings are a computer

276
00:24:56.640 --> 00:25:02.720
that plugs into this Internet and there
we can access all the information, except

277
00:25:02.759 --> 00:25:11.519
that future information is also present.
The idea of acasic registration seems interesting because

278
00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:18.000
it would certainly mean being able to
answer all our questions. Some argue that

279
00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:22.960
during certain periods of altered states of
conscience, shaman people, for example,

280
00:25:23.359 --> 00:25:30.960
have the possibility of accessing the acassic
record and thus obtaining faithful and truthful responses

281
00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:34.599
to events that have occurred a long
time ago or events that are to come.

282
00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:41.440
Even for some parapsychologists, the idea
of the acasic record as such is

283
00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:45.759
not very clear, but they maintain
the possibility that, for example, a

284
00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:52.319
paragnost a clairvoyant who can see the
future, who may have precognition attends the

285
00:25:52.359 --> 00:25:56.680
acasic record and from there obtains the
information, that is to say, it

286
00:25:56.279 --> 00:26:00.039
is detached for moments from the matter
and this other plane of existence is transferred,

287
00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:06.160
where is found the cosmic record,
this level of existence and there it

288
00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:10.319
sees some event. It is also
held within the parapsychological scope that in certain

289
00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:15.039
lapsus. When people have, for
example, pre- cognitive dreams, they

290
00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:21.920
would go to take information from the
acetic record and thus bring it down to

291
00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:26.680
the conscious and translate into some privileged
information. Of course, the ouija would

292
00:26:26.920 --> 00:26:30.839
be a tool to access this.
This is one of the theories, of

293
00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:34.880
course, that would be the way
to access the acassic registry. It is

294
00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:41.480
not clear how this would work,
as to the same question, how it

295
00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:47.400
is possible that everything simultaneously finds in
the same answer. The question is interesting.

296
00:26:47.559 --> 00:26:51.640
If we are four people, Pedro, Juan Luis and a servant and

297
00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:57.279
we ask if we will do well
in one business, the answer would hardly

298
00:26:57.279 --> 00:27:00.519
be the same for everyone, because
maybe Pedro is thinking about his own work,

299
00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:06.519
Luis in another and so everyone would
give an answer. And besides,

300
00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:08.960
there' s another problem. If
any of them are not accessing the acetic

301
00:27:10.000 --> 00:27:15.559
record, their hands would not move
in that direction, as it would involve

302
00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:18.640
involuntary movements. It would again be
to resort to the idea of automatism.

303
00:27:19.160 --> 00:27:23.160
The hands move automatically responding to information
that is coming from an external source,

304
00:27:23.599 --> 00:27:30.799
in this case the acassic record.
By doing this, our hands would be

305
00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:34.079
moving all at once. But what
happens if Juan and Luis fail to access

306
00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:41.319
the acasic registry, as their paragnostic
capabilities are not sufficiently developed. Consequently,

307
00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:47.839
the pointer would begin to have erratic
movements my hands by pushing the pointer,

308
00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:52.039
even if it was not voluntary.
Understand me this, even though I am

309
00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:57.240
not moving it voluntarily, but my
hands are moving automatically upon receipt of information

310
00:27:57.319 --> 00:28:02.400
from the core record. If Luis, who is standing in front of me,

311
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:06.359
is not receiving the same information,
his hands will not move and,

312
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:11.079
consequently, or as a result of
this, the pointer will have a ratic

313
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:17.759
movement. The theory doesn' t
hold up either. Then comes another interesting

314
00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:22.559
point in telepathic theory. Telepathic theory
holds that one of those present moves the

315
00:28:22.599 --> 00:28:29.680
board, but not necessarily one that
is there present, and this is a

316
00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:33.559
very interesting point. Telepathic theory is
strong. She' s one of the

317
00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:37.799
strongest. The liver theory holds that
at the time of asking a question,

318
00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:44.119
one of those present answers telepathically and
induces the answer to the others who are

319
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:49.160
there. Therefore, all will move
the pointer simultaneously from the phenomenon of automatic

320
00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:57.920
hand movement. This would explain a
lot, indeed a lot of how the

321
00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:03.519
child phenomenon happens, but it is
not lost does not mean that this is

322
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:07.200
the definitive answer. The fact that, for example, John has a highly

323
00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:15.319
developed telepathic capacity and he has the
answer, i e, I ask myself

324
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:17.640
is going to go well in the
business that I am going to undertake.

325
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:21.279
It' s personal, I know
it' s mine. If Luis thinks

326
00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:26.319
not, then that will appear as
no and what happens if the business goes

327
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:32.240
well with me. The huija was
wrong or simply Luis transmitted wrong telepathic information.

328
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:37.400
But not only that. There'
s another problem. If I ask

329
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:41.480
about a person I knew, where
is my friend Pedro or my friend Raúl,

330
00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:47.799
whom I have not seen in forty
years. Well, if the others

331
00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:52.319
don' t have the answer for
anything, it serves telepathy and I don

332
00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:55.519
' t have it myself, like
then I can find an answer there.

333
00:29:56.359 --> 00:30:00.960
Telepathic theory lacks that and certainly faces
a problem In many of the daughter accounts.

334
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:08.200
The answers that have been delivered from
the board have foundation and there is

335
00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:14.079
a reality behind it. So the
telepathic idea is not entirely positive, unless

336
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:18.799
we listen to something. Telepathic theory
holds that on the daughter board can also

337
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:25.920
present a response from another person who
is not there and that induces all present,

338
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:33.079
all actors in the wija session to
move simultaneously. There is an interesting

339
00:30:33.079 --> 00:30:37.519
story, precisely of Francisco Azorin,
the Spanish researcher of the Zeit, who

340
00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:41.839
relates that at some point they are
on the tableau cuija doing a session.

341
00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:49.799
There are four people and at some
point a presence intervenes. When asked about

342
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:56.680
this presence, who is the presence, he responds by giving the name and

343
00:30:56.759 --> 00:31:00.519
surname of a common friend to all
four, who, by the way,

344
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:06.200
was still alive and healthy. When
they continue to ask that person or that

345
00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:12.559
presence they identify themselves even more by
informing about their brothers and relatives, persons

346
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:18.640
who the participants in the session did
not yet know. Intrigued by this anomaly

347
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:22.319
of the huija, they agree to
ask a common point, something none of

348
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:27.039
the four know. They agree that
neither of the four has the slightest idea

349
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:32.079
of what the plates of the car
his friend drives, who, by mere

350
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:37.759
chance, turns out to be a
priest. Then they ask the Presence what

351
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:41.599
is the number of the plates of
the car it drives, to which this

352
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:48.799
Presence responds by giving the numbers and
letters in the correct order of the vehicle

353
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:52.200
' s license plate. Well,
up to that point, everything would look

354
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:57.160
great. A couple of days later, Francisco Azorín has a chance to meet

355
00:31:57.240 --> 00:32:01.599
that friend who had supposedly come in
at the daughter session and has a chance

356
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:07.519
to ask him what the plates of
your car are. That guy thinks for

357
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:15.079
a moment, tries to remember and
finally spells the plates of his car.

358
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:20.440
What you have just spelled coincides perfectly
with what has happened in the wija session.

359
00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:23.440
They haven' t told you anything
about what' s happened yet.

360
00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:29.400
He has not been told that they
were in a daughter session, since he

361
00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:32.440
is a priest and will surely criticize
them harshly. But Francis makes another point.

362
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:42.039
Listen to Sunday night, about this
time. You didn' t feel

363
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:45.240
weird about what that man responds to. Yeah, I felt pretty indisposed.

364
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:49.319
You saw around that time, I
decided better to lie down and sleep,

365
00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:55.279
because I felt extremely tired and dreamt
strange things. Casually he had felt indisposed

366
00:32:55.759 --> 00:33:00.880
at the time of the night when
his friends were playing eyeballs. When this

367
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:07.039
presence for Francisco Sorina intervened, this
is clearly a telepathic intervention. The friend

368
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:12.599
who is far away has brought the
information, but is not fooled, because

369
00:33:12.680 --> 00:33:16.960
from the other point of view,
for some paranormal researchers believers in the other

370
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:23.279
reality of the ouija, this means
a presence. I was familiar with the

371
00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:29.240
information from Francis, Francis' friend
of the priest, but it is not

372
00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:34.400
the last of the theories. While
telepathic theory is quite interesting and quite so

373
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:42.640
to speak close to reality. There' s another one let' s say

374
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:45.319
so it' s also quite interesting, but it can' t apply to

375
00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:47.880
everything. It' s the theory
of personal expression. This means that when

376
00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:52.400
two people play the daughter board,
only two of them are the subconscious of

377
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:57.920
one of them things that already know
things that are in there, but that

378
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:01.480
have not made them aware of certain
questions, move the pointer to give the

379
00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:08.239
answers automatically. As you can see, skeptical theory holds, in essence,

380
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:15.480
that the daughter board moves basically product
of human activity, of the reflex movement

381
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:22.679
of the hands of the movement of
the muscles involuntarily and the answers are provided

382
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:28.559
from knowledge that were already present in
ourselves, or the answers that can be

383
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:37.880
acquired via telepathic seems convincing to you. Not necessarily. Not necessarily, because

384
00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:46.079
many answers are beyond what people might
know. Many of the answers obtained go

385
00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:52.840
further and do not represent even the
beliefs of those present there, and they

386
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:58.840
are information that could be far from
the personal reach of subconscious waves anymore,

387
00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:04.559
and the theory of the almost common
record is equally contradictory. For the same

388
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:08.079
reason we have explained. If two
of the participants or one who is not

389
00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:13.760
in the same tune, it does, it simply won' t work.

390
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:20.559
And then and then we face some
strange situations. Stories about phenomena occurring during

391
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:29.719
and after a game with the daughter
board are usually very impressive. It'

392
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:32.239
s very good to try to give
a logical explanation. I' m not

393
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:37.400
saying it' s not possible,
but it may be possible in many cases.

394
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:42.880
In many cases, people may even
be playing jokes like no. If

395
00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:46.840
the one who guides you to the
session tells you, you let go and

396
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:50.840
just follow the movement of the pointer
with your hands down. So, the

397
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:52.760
next one' s moving it.
You won' t notice. That'

398
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:57.039
s a board problem. As they
are several people. If one of them

399
00:35:57.079 --> 00:36:00.400
is playing, it can guide the
others in their joke and lose all sense.

400
00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:06.679
If none of the four are playing, then nothing can happen and it

401
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:12.159
will be the best thing that could
have happened, because then there simply was

402
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:15.960
no success, because success, when
you talk about the daughter board, is

403
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:23.159
not necessarily pleasant and on many occasions
can be quite negative. We will also

404
00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:27.199
talk along the program of the other
part of the coin, the other side

405
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:35.239
from the other point of view.
Let' s go see the other side

406
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:38.239
of the coin. We have discussed
the septic views, but there is a

407
00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:44.760
very important view. You will see
two characters have been significant in the history

408
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:49.559
of paranormal research and, in my
view, have been among the researchers who

409
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:53.760
have been at the barrier in the
same line of fire longer and whose investigations

410
00:36:53.760 --> 00:37:00.079
have been valuable, but also very
profound. It' s about edh and

411
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:06.719
Loren Warren. Unfortunately, Ed Warren
died last year in August and has been

412
00:37:06.760 --> 00:37:14.800
an irreparable loss. His experience,
his knowledge and his strong will for help

413
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:20.199
have been lost forever, but his
knowledge has inherited them from us in a

414
00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:27.119
series of impressive texts in which he
narrates not only at the level of personal

415
00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:32.840
experiences, but with clear, concise
examples, his stories, his experiences and

416
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:37.719
his knowledge in the matter of the
occult. Being a man of about eighty

417
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:43.119
years, he delivered the spirit,
but not before leaving us this legacy on

418
00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:49.280
which he explained the wija board is
nothing. It is a piece of compressed

419
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:53.960
wood, varnished. The issue is
the use we give you, according to

420
00:37:54.000 --> 00:38:00.639
Ed Warren, as a monologue and
paranormal phenomena researcher. The UIS board is

421
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:06.079
not as such a contact tool,
but a kind of master key that opens

422
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:10.320
doors, a key that allows us
to contact another reality, with what is

423
00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:15.639
beyond. But, according to their
experiences and their stories, what is contacted.

424
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:22.280
In none of the cases he had
the opportunity to investigate were benign presences.

425
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:25.400
In none of the cases he documents, Ed Warren, accompanied by his

426
00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:31.280
wife Loren Warren, was able to
find a presence that could even be considered

427
00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:37.000
angelic, whose responses gave indications of
any benign action. This is a very

428
00:38:37.039 --> 00:38:44.440
strong statement. It is a declaration
that returns as outlawed, as sanctioned,

429
00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:49.280
as negative. The use of the
wija board. But this is not a

430
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:52.360
personal opinion, but an experience based
on numerous cases in which he had the

431
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:59.239
opportunity to participate. It even refers
to the very famous case that gave rise

432
00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:06.719
to the exso film. You remember
her. The writer Blatt would conduct an

433
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:09.719
investigation and come into contact with a
story, a story of demonic possession.

434
00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:15.480
But history as such, while impressive, also has antecedent. The boy who

435
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:21.440
originally motivated the story was not a
girl, but a boy spent in the

436
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:25.719
forties somewhere in Washington. He'
s never done well. Well, the

437
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:30.840
name has been supported by the name
Manheim. He' s called the Robbie

438
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:36.840
Manheim boy, recounts the event of
his possession. The novel as such presents

439
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:39.719
the phenomenon of possession and the way
in which priests did a moderately accomplished exorcism

440
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:49.480
and so on. But the historical
background is very interesting. Ed Warren tells

441
00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:53.440
us that it all begins when this
boy comes into contact with the board daughter,

442
00:39:54.280 --> 00:39:59.039
an aunt of his close, an
aunt with whom he lived and with

443
00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:04.000
whom he had a relationship, a
very intense affection. He had the habit

444
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:10.320
of using the daughter board and as
such participated the stories and answers obtained through

445
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:15.920
this to his nephew Rob Manham.
At that point, the aunt dies and

446
00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:22.519
Robby is extremely devastated to the point
of wanting to find contact with the aunt.

447
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:27.679
To do this it returns to the
use of the huija board, which

448
00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:30.840
becomes a constant continuous use. But
what is presented there, as Ed Warren

449
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:37.000
says, is not in any case
the soul of the deceased aunt, but

450
00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:42.280
a series of dark presences, of
evil presences that are identified in different ways

451
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:47.519
and which come to the point of
being liberated when this boy allows them to

452
00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:53.039
come into contact with him and move
into reality, that is, transcending that

453
00:40:53.039 --> 00:41:00.000
barrier that limits the other planes of
existence of our reality. Consequently, he

454
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:05.559
is possessed, but not only does
he relate it. According to Ed Warren

455
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:09.480
' s testimony, four out of
ten cases in which he was involved had

456
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:17.960
a common record of participation in sessions
with a wija board. Other cases he

457
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:24.519
documents have had participation in different types
of spiritist sessions or even spells and lots

458
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:31.079
of things of that nature. But
he particularly points out that the use of

459
00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:38.639
the WIJA board was the cause of
disastrous phenomena and extremely macabre stories, in

460
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:43.960
at least four out of ten cases
in which he and his wife were involved.

461
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:46.440
That' s the dimension of the
matter. But not only would Ed

462
00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:52.039
Warren give his opinion. There are
also other researchers, such as Duck dal

463
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:58.719
del kx Marek, who holds as
a member of the ghostly research society that

464
00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:04.000
the tabo uses it. It is
not a game, which is a contact

465
00:42:04.679 --> 00:42:08.639
tool that releases barriers, breaks down
barriers and, consequently, opens the doors.

466
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:15.320
And, as this happens, these
presences are approaching, but these are

467
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:21.960
not charitable or angelic presences. According
to this researcher, the gax Marek,

468
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:28.880
basically what you can contact there are
spirits of the lower astral plane. This

469
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:34.320
is the garbage. Other researchers argue
that what can be contacted through the daughter

470
00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:37.440
board, in essence, are those
who have not found rest when it comes

471
00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:43.880
to disincarnated spirits, people who,
for some reason, have failed to transcend

472
00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:50.599
the next barrier and reach a place
where they are in excellence. Therefore,

473
00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:57.719
it is on an intermediate plane where
human emotions are still alive, but they

474
00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:02.440
are not emotions as we might have, that sometimes we are happy, sometimes

475
00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:08.880
sad, sometimes angry. Someone who
has been caught up in that instrtice,

476
00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:15.039
in that interplay between death and what
comes next, is basically left there by

477
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:19.519
extremely mixed emotions, extremely intense,
that can go from anger, the most

478
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:25.079
terrible greed, hatred or despair.
In any case, the emotions that can

479
00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:30.679
be poured through the board would be, in any case, quite negative,

480
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:36.079
as they were those that motivated a
spiritual presence not to transcend and arrive at

481
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:38.639
the moment of excellence, that is, at the divine moment, at the

482
00:43:38.719 --> 00:43:42.960
moment of grace to eternal peace.
If you want to call it that way,

483
00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:46.239
the point here becomes extremely delicate,
since, if this were true,

484
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:53.000
what would be coming into contact would
not have even minimally the intention to help

485
00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:59.360
us or to answer our questions reliably, but it could access a lot of

486
00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:04.960
information. That is true, since
it would be in contact with us in

487
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:10.079
a non- material way and,
consequently, it could give us information,

488
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:13.480
but it could also affect us very
much. And here come some other opinions.

489
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:16.960
One of them is, moreover,
interesting. A doctor known as Alberto

490
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:22.519
González, a member of the Pan
American Institute of Health, relates based on

491
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:29.679
several experiences he has experienced that what
is presented through the daughter board are essentially

492
00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:38.559
vile creatures, creatures belonging to darkness. It' s anachronistic, it'

493
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:45.159
s exotic. It is amazing that
a doctor the size of Alberto González relates

494
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:51.039
this, but he continues with his
statement during an interview a few years ago,

495
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:57.760
and claims that they exist and can
possess the bodies of their victims and

496
00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:01.559
cause normal, quiet, non-
violent people to commit horrible crimes and to

497
00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:10.159
turn or take disastrous forms. They
are among us only because we open the

498
00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:19.400
door to them through the use of
those sinister toys called Bone boards. Alberto

499
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:27.360
González is, among other things,
a doctor and then a psychiatrist and then

500
00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:31.599
a parapsychologist. It seems very strange
to this whole combination, not necessarily.

501
00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:38.079
In fact, in some institutions where
the professorship of parapsychology is taught, the

502
00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:43.880
practice of psychiatry is required as antecedent. What do you think? And this

503
00:45:43.960 --> 00:45:50.880
man has worked for years in research
inside the Center and South America in strange

504
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:57.280
cases, in psychiatric aberrations, cases
that have been considered as anomalies, as

505
00:45:57.320 --> 00:46:02.159
diseases, but that has finally found
a very macabre point. Many of these

506
00:46:02.760 --> 00:46:09.719
disorders have a common antecedent on the
wija board, but it would be a

507
00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:15.760
rather unfortunate statement, quite ridiculous if
it were only his. However, there

508
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:22.760
are other equally strange statements. One
of them is Dr Marta Projasca. Rojasca

509
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:30.199
is a psychiatrist, psychotrapist and psychoanalyst
doctor from Farfax Virriginia in the United States,

510
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:37.440
and she argues that using the daughter
board can lead to very high levels

511
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:45.800
of violence and even extremely ugly crimes. He also argues that people who usually

512
00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:54.239
practice the daughter board may develop phenomena
of schizophremic and paranoid hallucinations and may come

513
00:46:54.280 --> 00:47:00.119
to believe that they are in contact
with invisible beings and others and that they

514
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:07.000
have even come to understand that there
may be another reality. What expanding or

515
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:14.559
extantingling our consciousness can cause there to
be gaps through which these presences enter and

516
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:17.920
which, certainly for it is a
kind of window to observe the hereafter.

517
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:24.440
But not necessarily that window to heaven, but rather to hell. Strange,

518
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:30.639
yes, quite, but beyond this, we also have opinions of some priests,

519
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:36.079
some irreverend priests. In the area
of the gospel of the Gospel is

520
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:42.719
the opinion of Morris Cerulo, president
of the organization known as world evangelism.

521
00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:47.000
This man, coming from Illino and
the United States, argues that many of

522
00:47:47.039 --> 00:47:54.840
his faithful have presented strange phenomena and
told tales, bizarre macabres coming from having

523
00:47:55.039 --> 00:48:00.800
sought answers on the daughter board as
to what erno form. The opinion of

524
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:07.480
these people has weight. These are
not essentially hallucinated or suggestible people. These

525
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:13.239
include, inter alia, researchers,
doctors, psychiatric doctors and others. Although

526
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:16.440
Dr Marta Projasca' s point of
view is interesting because she maintains that the

527
00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:22.679
phenomenon that occurs with the ouija board
is a schizophrenic paranoid hallucination. It'

528
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:30.480
s still worrying. This is a
story published in Son' s English newspaper

529
00:48:30.599 --> 00:48:37.519
that relates a strange event a certain
afternoon. John Raidens, father of family,

530
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:44.840
distinguished member of society, of an
ordinary person, decides to have fun

531
00:48:44.920 --> 00:48:49.119
one afternoon, as they are at
home, his wife, Gloria and her

532
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:53.840
two little ones, who are then
about nine years old about eleven years old.

533
00:48:54.639 --> 00:49:00.800
The idea is to have fun on
a boring Sunday afternoon. The house

534
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:06.000
is a normal English house. You
know, spacious rooms, a huge dining

535
00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:12.079
room, with various furniture and a
flirt. Living room, very comfortable armchairs

536
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:16.559
with a table in the center.
John Ravens wants to play a joke on

537
00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:21.119
his kids in a fun way.
Let' s see what happens. It

538
00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:24.559
' s supposed to be a joke. He buys a daughter board for it.

539
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:28.800
During the days before, his daughter
of about eleven years, he has

540
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:34.559
been insisting on stories of the run
and how this happens too much. Ravens

541
00:49:35.079 --> 00:49:38.880
is an entirely rational man. He' s a man who' s worked

542
00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:45.840
for years and has a certain technical
background. So he decides to follow the

543
00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:52.519
game and, according to his wife, they propose a spiritist session for a

544
00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:58.760
few children. Of course, John
Ravens has no idea what he' s

545
00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:02.400
getting into. They sit around the
table, they take out the board they

546
00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:07.280
just bought and, as they read
the instructions, they joke a little bit

547
00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:12.440
about they' re going to meet
the spirits of the afterlife and that we

548
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:15.119
' re going to talk to the
spirits and you' re going to be

549
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:22.079
able to ask things, let'
s see who' s around here maybe

550
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:28.599
we find some person known to the
emotion of the moment, then they place

551
00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:30.360
themselves there, put their hands on
top and then John starts asking the questions.

552
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:34.199
It' s about moving the pointer
to give the answers. They start

553
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:37.719
with the classic question. There'
s someone here who wants to talk to

554
00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:43.440
us. The board points to the
answer. Yes, John has followed the

555
00:50:43.519 --> 00:50:46.239
game and thinks that his wife,
Gloria is moving the pointer and, according

556
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:53.760
to her and a look somewhat guasona
agree there and move the pointer. There

557
00:50:53.880 --> 00:51:00.480
' s someone who wants to talk
to us and in and then they ask

558
00:51:00.599 --> 00:51:07.360
another question. Again. John thinks
his wife, Gloria, is moving the

559
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:12.960
pointer. Interestingly, Gloria thinks the
same thing that John is manipulating that for

560
00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:20.480
answers. Then the answers begin,
but at the beginning, the answers do

561
00:51:20.519 --> 00:51:24.079
not correspond to the questions. John
asks if the entity that is manifesting was

562
00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:30.400
alive when he died and things like
that. But the answers are extremely unwise.

563
00:51:31.079 --> 00:51:35.960
They' re aggressive responses. I' m gonna kill you, you

564
00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:38.599
' re gonna die and answers like
that. John instantly looks at his wife

565
00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:43.079
with a look of reproach and realizes
that his wife is looking at him with

566
00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:47.320
the same look. Obviously, they' re wondering why the hell you'

567
00:51:47.400 --> 00:51:51.280
re giving those answers. You'
re scaring the kids. The moment Gloria

568
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:57.199
breaks the silence and says John I' m not moving it. John doesn

569
00:51:57.320 --> 00:52:00.840
' t answer me either, Gloria, but at that point the pointer is

570
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:06.440
going crazy. He begins to point
here and there, flapping obsessive words over

571
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:10.679
and over again as that follows.
John realizes that a joke is not being

572
00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:17.440
played and that it is moving randomly. When the hands of the pointer are

573
00:52:17.559 --> 00:52:22.840
removed, the pointer continues to move
frantically. A few moments straight away,

574
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:28.599
John throws that on the floor and
recedes a little time in which, according

575
00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:31.559
to his testimony, which turns out
to be amazing in front of them,

576
00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:37.880
there begins to be a presence,
a physical presence that was interpreted as the

577
00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:45.360
demon itself. John observes it and
relates having seen that figure as in the

578
00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:49.880
middle of a kind of ring of
fire and that the room became incredibly hot,

579
00:52:50.519 --> 00:52:52.119
as if it were the furnace,
as if it were the same hell.

580
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:57.639
The members of the family describe that
presence of a dark red colour,

581
00:52:58.159 --> 00:53:02.960
with a hideous skin and with the
classic demonic figure, the deformed face and

582
00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:09.400
an abnormal body that laughs loudly and
utters all sorts of insults. It also

583
00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:14.480
appears for a moment as if it
were a kind of big bat, as

584
00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:19.800
if it had wings And then,
John, who is paralyzed in front of

585
00:53:19.800 --> 00:53:24.199
it, screams at his children behind
trying to protect them, when that presence

586
00:53:24.320 --> 00:53:31.119
jumps and throws itself upon them.
John recounted Son' s diary in horror

587
00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:37.280
as this creature begins to bite one
and the other, either on the face

588
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:40.159
in the arms, they try to
run away from one side to the other,

589
00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:45.119
but every time they try to reach
the door, that thing jumps on

590
00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:47.760
them. So fast they can'
t escape. The two young ones,

591
00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:52.920
Linda and Ronald, the children of
the family, are beaten several times and

592
00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:59.760
are completely helpless. While John Ravens
tries to pray something to make a prayer

593
00:53:59.800 --> 00:54:02.480
that barely comes out of his mouth, that creature throws himself on him,

594
00:54:02.840 --> 00:54:07.880
hitting him hard on the face,
wounding him, causing him to bleed in

595
00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:14.880
different parts of the body. The
children are screaming and John is trying to

596
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:20.840
protect them in some way, but
he is thrown against the wall. At

597
00:54:20.920 --> 00:54:24.400
the moment Gloria joins and begins to
make a series of praises she met in

598
00:54:24.920 --> 00:54:30.559
the biblical Church in which the presence
participates, she suddenly fades in front of

599
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:37.320
her, leaving behind her unbearable heat
and a nauseating edour. John takes the

600
00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:42.360
children who are very hurt and runs
out of the house. They all ride

601
00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:45.360
in the car and head to a
nearby hospital, where they are treated for

602
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:51.119
different wounds and burns. The explanation
they give to doctors is not entirely convincing

603
00:54:51.239 --> 00:54:55.320
and would generate several charges for child
abuse, charges that children themselves declare is

604
00:54:55.440 --> 00:55:02.320
not true. They exist in the
same testimony separately, the four members of

605
00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:07.800
the family declare the same scene.
The police regard it as a domestic situation

606
00:55:08.519 --> 00:55:14.039
and finally attach themselves to the matter. But it permeates even the media where

607
00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:16.760
it is known what happened. In
that year of nineteen hundred and eighty-

608
00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:22.320
six, inside the house of John
Ravens. The same account would be known

609
00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:27.400
to Eddil Raine Warren, who would
take up the matter by moving to Canada

610
00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:31.800
to learn the first- hand account, and other researchers from different paranormal research

611
00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:37.719
organizations would likewise know this. The
critical point is what rays they contacted and

612
00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:43.000
how it all happened, and that, to say the connoisseurs in the matter,

613
00:55:43.159 --> 00:55:50.719
there are certain things that should not
be done. Several of them are

614
00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:57.679
rather delicate points and must be taken
very seriously. First of all, the

615
00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:01.480
day the session takes place at John
Ravens' house. The outside is a

616
00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:07.440
stormy day. It is a day
full of lightning and semi- darkness,

617
00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:10.760
which motivates this family to be at
home bored and looking for fun. According

618
00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:16.760
to specialists and researchers on the paranormal, the worst time to do a daughter

619
00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:22.559
session is during a stormy day or
in bad weather, as this semi-

620
00:56:23.039 --> 00:56:29.360
darkness and abundant presence of electric shocks
favors paranormal presences, the same on eclipse

621
00:56:29.400 --> 00:56:34.480
days or on dark days where it
is believed that the barrier that divides the

622
00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:43.039
worlds becomes much thinner. But,
in addition, there are other points in

623
00:56:43.079 --> 00:56:45.920
common that must be followed. At
the time when a presence is present on

624
00:56:45.960 --> 00:56:51.000
the wija board, all attendees should
be silent, not joking among themselves or

625
00:56:51.960 --> 00:56:57.559
making offensive jokes or of any other
nature, since the Presence that is there

626
00:56:57.559 --> 00:57:00.320
if for some unfortunate reason, is
an unstable presence, an aggressive presence,

627
00:57:00.840 --> 00:57:09.360
will anger and respond in the same
way. Then, you should always ask

628
00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:15.360
questions of courtesy, you want to
talk you are willing. We should never

629
00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:22.159
utter insults or any words, that
we are not completely sure of what it

630
00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:27.639
means, because for us it can
have a meaning and for the Presence other

631
00:57:27.639 --> 00:57:31.039
words that can be common in our
vocabulary, can be offensive in another area.

632
00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:36.079
And by understanding that this Presence,
according to paranormal researchers, does not

633
00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:40.679
have the ability to reason and is
only sustained on the basis of their own

634
00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:45.320
essential emotions, such as anger,
resentment, anguish, their response can be

635
00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:53.800
extremely aggressive. Also, of course, you should never look for litigation in

636
00:57:53.800 --> 00:57:59.280
this. This is never to try
to contact someone to claim something of the

637
00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:05.239
opposite, things can be quite negative
and then make some precisions based on experience,

638
00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:14.000
one prayers. Many times people think
that before playing the daughter some prayers

639
00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:20.840
should be made, asking for divine
protection and so on. Well, first

640
00:58:20.920 --> 00:58:23.000
of all. If God’ s
protection is desired, what should not be

641
00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:28.639
done is to violate it by playing
the ouija. For many researchers of whom

642
00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:35.480
I have already quoted, it is
first of all a contradiction to seek in

643
00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:37.880
the occult by asking for divine protection. These are two issues that are not

644
00:58:38.199 --> 00:58:43.079
mixed and that cannot be shared.
Second, the moment things start to go

645
00:58:43.119 --> 00:58:47.719
wrong. Prayer will not answer us, in the first place, because we

646
00:58:47.840 --> 00:58:53.320
have denied presence at the start of
the game. Second, religious objects are

647
00:58:54.000 --> 00:59:00.519
definitely not adequate. If you are
going to try to make a game,

648
00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:04.960
what is being manifested in the case
of being a dark entity, a demonic

649
00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:08.800
entity, when you perceive the presence
of religious objects or that can be considered

650
00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:14.880
divine, will be a major offense, a direct aggression and, as a

651
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:19.800
result, the outcome will not be
anything pleasant. Another one. Many people

652
00:59:19.920 --> 00:59:24.880
think that by doing an incense session
you will get an advantage that will attract

653
00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:30.239
positive energies. Not necessarily. What
is being done externally little will help the

654
00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:37.159
internal. But there' s a
certain recommendation. First, if a person

655
00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:45.039
plans to make use of the huija
board, one should not play at certain

656
00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:49.320
times. Certain hours are between nine
o' clock in the night and six

657
00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:53.320
o' clock in the morning,
the moments of darkness, the most prone

658
00:59:53.519 --> 01:00:00.840
moments, but particularly never, absolutely
never play it around three o' clock

659
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:04.159
in the morning, the full moment
of dark actions. While during the day

660
01:00:04.239 --> 01:00:09.119
some disembodied spirit may be found.
Of course according to these people who believe

661
01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:14.159
faithfully that the daughter is an element
of contact with the hereafter, according to

662
01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:17.320
them at all times maintain that if
during the day the huija board is used,

663
01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:22.519
it is possible to find contact with
a disembodied entity, with a dead

664
01:00:22.519 --> 01:00:25.800
human being who has not been able
to find rest. Your information you can

665
01:00:25.920 --> 01:00:30.960
provide will be of very little value, but finally, you will not be

666
01:00:30.039 --> 01:00:34.159
aggressive if you are not treated aggressively. However, during the night and in

667
01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:37.639
particular in that time span of three
in the morning, what will be found

668
01:00:37.679 --> 01:00:43.800
will always be a dark presence.
A number of recommendations are also made.

669
01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:49.039
One will never seek to play the
daughter board in a place known to have

670
01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:54.320
paranormal infestation problems, as what is
there will obviously not be positive. It

671
01:00:54.360 --> 01:01:00.079
should not be played in holy cemeteries
fields or in old abandoned churches. Either

672
01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:07.320
way, what comes forward has no
positive intention. Then who can be dealt

673
01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:15.280
with? Well, if any presence
assures, being satan does not necessarily believe

674
01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:19.920
him. Many of them are impostors. But anyway, if you talk about

675
01:01:19.960 --> 01:01:23.119
him, you don' t know
him if he talks about other presences,

676
01:01:23.719 --> 01:01:30.480
it' s also because you know
them don' t come close the board

677
01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:35.400
and say goodbye. Thank you in
the most courteous way that you can intervene

678
01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:42.840
and say goodbye and, lastly,
never, absolutely ever, ask for a

679
01:01:42.840 --> 01:01:49.119
physical test. This is the most
common mistake that exists, no matter how

680
01:01:49.199 --> 01:01:52.599
absurd it seems in the vast majority
of sessions you run away once the pointer

681
01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:58.800
begins to move, there is no
missing one who wants a greater emotion or

682
01:01:59.280 --> 01:02:04.719
another evidence that that is true and, as a consequence, ask for a

683
01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:08.320
physical proof that there is a presence. This invitation is the ultimate proof,

684
01:02:08.960 --> 01:02:14.320
that is, to open the door
and say pass. I want you to

685
01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:19.480
come in here and now and light
up, move, furniture, pet the

686
01:02:19.960 --> 01:02:25.559
cat or drink something. That invitation
means that your house is no longer yours

687
01:02:27.079 --> 01:02:30.840
and, consequently, should never be
made. It' s the weather spot.

688
01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:35.719
In all cases where paranormal demonstrations have
reached aggressive and climatic points, it

689
01:02:35.760 --> 01:02:44.679
has been because someone agreed to open
the door after the candles. The colors

690
01:02:44.679 --> 01:02:49.519
of candles have a meaning, according
to some believers in the spiritual world.

691
01:02:51.039 --> 01:02:53.880
If light colored candles are to be
used, usually what is invoked are soft

692
01:02:53.960 --> 01:03:07.599
presences. If they' re dark
colors, better not clothes. And let

693
01:03:07.679 --> 01:03:10.480
me read some of the calls we' ve received. Fernando Acosta called us.

694
01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:16.480
He tells us that the etymology of
wija means ear already and that'

695
01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:22.320
s how this instrument works and basically
describes the functioning of the ouija. Hearing

696
01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:29.159
it would basically be that translates into
what we can' t hear. It

697
01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:34.039
is translated into letters and texts.
There the functioning that I have known,

698
01:03:34.119 --> 01:03:37.239
through the accounts of people and through
the accounts of the researchers of the topic,

699
01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:43.440
leads to very dramatic episodes, to
situations of great stress. There is

700
01:03:43.480 --> 01:03:49.599
one very peculiar in which the way
in which a person saw the attack of

701
01:03:49.639 --> 01:03:53.679
a paranormal presence is told. During
a certain afternoon, a person in the

702
01:03:53.719 --> 01:04:00.480
United States, named Billa Ru,
is playing with the daughter. Some friends

703
01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:05.880
and others are very happy there,
but at a certain point the daughter becomes

704
01:04:05.960 --> 01:04:13.039
disquieted and starts to move randomly.
He comes and goes everywhere. At that

705
01:04:13.079 --> 01:04:18.079
point, session attendees decide to terminate
the matter, but forget the important point.

706
01:04:19.639 --> 01:04:24.000
Don' t say goodbye and do
nothing. They just throw the board

707
01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:28.880
around and walk away a little bit
to comment on what is happening. Some

708
01:04:28.920 --> 01:04:32.280
of the responses have been very offensive. They' ve been obsessive words,

709
01:04:32.760 --> 01:04:38.639
direct assaults, classic phrases like emptying
yourself to hell, you' ll burn

710
01:04:39.119 --> 01:04:41.800
with me in hell, I'
m the demon of similar things. Finally,

711
01:04:41.840 --> 01:04:46.880
these frightened people are somewhat commenting on
what happened when suddenly near the door

712
01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:51.239
of the house there are two dogs, one of them named Muffhy and the

713
01:04:51.280 --> 01:04:58.760
other Shadow, who are lying nearby
at that point. When they are commenting

714
01:04:58.920 --> 01:05:03.639
on the events. Suddenly, dogs
start barking in a strange way and complaining

715
01:05:04.119 --> 01:05:11.440
as if they were being assaulted.
Dogs are simply not aggressive animals, but

716
01:05:11.440 --> 01:05:17.079
they are responding aggressively, showing their
teeth and are later terrified against the door

717
01:05:17.480 --> 01:05:23.719
before something they do not observe,
something that is not there. Finally,

718
01:05:23.800 --> 01:05:28.840
dogs end up badly mistreated with a
nervous breakdown groaning away from being in an

719
01:05:28.920 --> 01:05:32.400
aggressive position, they are in a
defensive position, completely cornered. No one

720
01:05:32.480 --> 01:05:36.239
is assaulting them or, at least, no one who can be seen in

721
01:05:36.320 --> 01:05:43.119
plain sight is assaulting them. What
happened. They played with the ouija and

722
01:05:43.159 --> 01:05:47.519
that means playing with the occult to
culminate with today' s theme is only

723
01:05:47.519 --> 01:05:55.280
the invitation. Do not play it
whether it is simple involuntary reflexes, Guinean

724
01:05:56.280 --> 01:06:02.079
movements and telepathic projects efforts. The
information that can be obtained through this has

725
01:06:02.159 --> 01:06:10.400
a minimal value and the consequences can
be very dramatic. I thank you all

726
01:06:10.480 --> 01:06:15.840
for coming with me tonight. A
thousand Thank you all good night and rest

727
01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:26.840
in peace follow us also on our
YouTube channel stories from the dark side