Casa infestada, un caso de Ralph Sarchie || Relatos del lado oscuro podcast

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When you talk about demon phenomena,
you have to understand that there are different

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forms of demonic action, mainly in
two areas, those that exert action on

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the person and those that exert action
on a place or on a certain good.

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The fact is, when it comes
to people, there are different ways.

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From the circumdatio, which is a
form of external siege to the person,

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then there is the influence, which
can be outward or inward, where

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an individual feels outwardly that things happen
to him, and can also be inward,

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where no one else sees him.
The big difference between the circumdatio and

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an influence is that it acts on
the person and is on the person'

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s environment. Then come other phenomena, such as the obsessive, oppression,

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where the person clearly feels the action, knows that he is being the object

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of that action and the obsession where
everything in his world revolves around these phenomena

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of demonic cutting. Then comes the
other, the terrible, the possession.

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Possession is that the spirit, the
soul of this individual, be displaced,

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though not totally, not permanently,
but be displaced from this body and that

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person be overwritten. Let' s
put it that way by a demonic presence

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that will occupy that body and can
become worse, because integration can come to

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merge, the last stage where an
individual of his own will decides to integrate

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into a demonic being. We are
talking about very ugly things and as far

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as places are concerned, it is
usually infestation, but broadly speaking. There

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are these two great items against the
person, against the goods. It is

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usually thought that when it comes to
an infestation, infestation does not affect individuals

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directly for a time, since the
central objective will always be the same to

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steal that person from the divine hosts, just as simple as the holy flock,

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from the Lord' s flock to
take and extract him, either through

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obsession, by means of influence,
by means of possession. So it'

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s almost as serious. Even if
there is no possession, phenomena set the

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tone for something terrible that is about
to begin. He stays with me.

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Tonight we begin accounts of the dark
side for strange beings, events, inexplicable,

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stories that other minds prefer to ignore. Having said that, at the

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beginning of the program, let me
take about two thousand four, two thousand

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five to an area of New Jersey, North Bergen, in Houston County,

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but this is on the other side
of the New York River. It is

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an area in which there are numerous
houses that, although not considered historical monuments,

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there are many old houses, houses
that were ns of a single family

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and that, over time, have
been modified to become small apartments. And

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that' s the case with this
nice house I' m going to talk

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to you about tonight. It is
a house behind the back of the old

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Macpellah cemetery and, well as such, it is a very nice house,

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very comfortable. It has a basement
that has been enabled as a rental apartment.

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Then there is the ground floor,
which is also enabled as an independent

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apartment for rent. After the second
level, it also became a kind of

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department. The house as such,
has in the back an area in which

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you can have from toys things for
children. It' s an open area.

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It' s not exactly a landscaped
area, but it has some plants.

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It' s got a little garden. A part of concrete is a

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beautiful building and has been empty for
some time. Since its owner has decided

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to put in Rent the modifications.
That has been empty for some time until

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it arrives. The first of the
tenants is a young man. He only

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comes to rent an apartment and lives
alone good. She lives with her pet,

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a Snowpol kitten, a beautiful cat
she' s been with for a

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couple of years. It' s
not a small minina, it' s

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a mature cat and they' ve
been together for some time. He'

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s had cats in another time.
So you always love having a cat at

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home. This young man of Italian
origin who has been named Angelo, comes

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from the big city where he has
a business. He' s a merchant,

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he' s a guy who devotes
a lot of time of his day

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to working in his own business.
He doesn' t have much space to

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make up stories. The fact is
that he gets this nice apartment that,

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although it is in a basement,
is well enabled. The exterior ventanites of

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that soto become very suitable light inputs. It is in a good neighborhood this

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area where the cemetery of mcpellah is
located is quite good and likes the house

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rents that it hires a move from
its previous apartment. It fills all that

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very well. Set your things up
and you' re gonna stay for the

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first time let me talk to you
a little bit more. He' s

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the first tenant. That means there' s no one upstairs and there'

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s no one on the next floor
either. He' s got the whole

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house all by himself, although it' s clear, man can use the

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central hallway, but he can'
t get into the other apartments. They

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' re all closed. This boy
decides to take some precautions knowing that he

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is alone climbs door by door and
checks that they are closed also checks the

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front door. Come on, it' s a new yorquin. They are

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people who have some care, check
the front door, which closes it well

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all windows. We' re talking
about winter. So, logically, all

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the windows are going to be closed. It must be sometime towards the end

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of January. Since it has been
days when there has even been copious snow

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and very cold, let' s
get back to Angelo just arrived After settling

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all his things, the move has
gone down a couple of days before has

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arranged everything, and right now it
comes with a bag of those very nice

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paper that they give in the stores
of the United States, where it brings

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groceries and things with which it prepares
dinner. Everything very well uncovers the tin

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of food for his minina snowball comes
sniffing that and begins to eat it while

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he enjoys a while caressing his back
and continues to eat his own until suddenly

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the little animal makes a kind of
strange bow. He' s acting really

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weird. It' s like he
saw something that scared him, something that

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scared him. You have seen a
cat when it gets weird, when it

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archs the back and lifts the tail
in a peculiar way and begins to give

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a few side jumps as defensive.
But there' s nothing there. Well,

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this young man gets up and checks
over here, checks over there.

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There' s nothing. It'
s all right. Crazy tasting as the

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house is new and just arrived safely. That' s why he' s

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getting a little upset. He ends
his dinner, does what he has to

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do and goes to bed, but
a while later, at some point in

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the night he begins to hear a
very unusual sound, something that spiders,

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spiders do as a rodent. First
he hears it in the underside of the

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bed. You think he' s
a safe rodent. He got a bug,

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but it' s the basement,
so there' s no fake floor

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down here. That' s a
concrete floor and there' s not much

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where you check that. But while
he' s checking this out, the

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noise is moving to the top,
as if the bug was up there now.

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The sound is peculiar, not scary. It' s just that ugly

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sound of something scratching around here and
there, like rodents decide to take a

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baseball bat, open their door and
check out. But there' s nothing

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there. He obviously comes back and
lies in bed. It' s funny,

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but the next day it repeats that
night, the next night sleeps,

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like every night. It' s
all calm and it' s awakened by

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the sounds, those scragh skragh skratch, like there' s a bug out

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there, but it' s a
loud sound, uh, and it'

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s suddenly heard as coming from the
walls, all of a sudden, like

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it' s coming from the top. He gets up to see what it

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' s about and there' s
nothing. But when Holy Heaven returns,

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the cat is completely deranged. It' s completely arched. It' s

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so irisate. That animal tufas and
assaults something that doesn' t see whatever

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' s there. That little animal
is trying to assault him and he'

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s trying to defend himself. I
don' t know angel turns it around

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and realizes it' s too late. It' s 3: 00 in

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the morning. He goes to bed
thinking there must be some rodent and probably

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the next day he calls the owner
to inform her that there' s a

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bug and hires someone to exterminate animals. Third night, this time it'

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s exactly the same. He barely
falls asleep quietly feels like the kitten,

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settles next to him, as is
his custom at night, and sleeps calmly

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until suddenly the sound of that weird
one again, but now it is in

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his bed, at the bottom of
his bed, as if there was something

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scratching under his bed. Feel a
chill. Of course he' s sorry

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he gets up, takes the baseball
bat he' s got and there'

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s nothing there. But while he' s checking under the bed, checking

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what' s up. The sound
has moved and now it' s on

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one wall and now it' s
on another and the sound is loud.

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You know clearly how that scratches the
walls as if there was something inside,

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but it must be something very big, because that sound is very loud.

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Then he gives in, withdraws and
goes again. It' s too late.

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It' s 3: 00 in
the morning and Angelo' s going

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to sleep. Those days pass in
that go and come nothing but with that

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curiosity that always happens at the same
time, three in the morning, last

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one week and already with a certain
nervousness has taken two or three precautions like

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leaving nothing on the table. Everything
he' s brought with him from food,

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edible stuff. Put them in the
fridge in case there' s a

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rodent, that' s possible.
Finally there, a few meters back,

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is an open field, which is
the old cemetery, and there is probably

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some big rodent something, but that
night something different happens. That night into

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the night has already cost him sleep
something awakens him, but this time it

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is not only the scratch. The
one when he joins to see where the

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famous scratch comes from. Listen that
someone is entering the front of the house

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there is snow and listens clearly to
the footsteps of someone who is entering it

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is not that he is getting into
the house, but that he is in

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the front of this kind of little
garden that is in front of the house

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and listens to someone' s strong
footsteps and listens to how he travels to

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one side and then goes to the
front of the intrigued house knowing that it

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is very late in the night.
Think of a bandit, so, without

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hesitation twice, he puts on a
coat, takes his baseball bat and goes

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out carefully to the front. But
there' s no one from the side

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window to the door you can see
that there' s no one out there.

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In the street lamppost lights up well
decides clumsily and boldly to open the

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door and leave. And to his
astonishment he realizes something, even though all

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this has snow and ice sheets.
There' s no footprint. But he

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has heard clearly how he stepped on
the ice, that classic crach of the

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sound of ice when someone steps on
it. But there' s nothing there.

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No one' s walked around There' s no footprint. He closes

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the door quickly and goes back to
his room, locks himself up and goes

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back to bed thinking that maybe it
was a sound away, something that came

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from somewhere else. And then the
sound stops listening outside and you hear it

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just above it, right in the
hallway, the entrance hall to the house.

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But he is sure that he closed
the door perfectly and now he hears

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these footsteps that go from the front
to the back and listen to that boom

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boom. Someone with heavy boots has
just entered the house and is walking backwards,

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but as soon as the back comes, suddenly begins to return to the

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door and he hears those stronger footprints
and now a little faster and barely gets

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to the door and now the footprints
go back, but fast. That becomes

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very strong, you hear how everything
trembles by the footsteps and for the third

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time it is heard like that.
It comes forward running faster and faster and

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now back again and finally, boom
stops everything. There' s an absolute

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silen. You can' t hear
the scratches anymore, you can hear those

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steps and guess what three in the
morning are. And this man takes the

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baseball bat and, gathering courage,
opens the door to his room, his

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apartment and goes out into the hallway
and guess there' s no mark of

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anything. If someone had come into
the house with snow shoes, they would

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have left numerous wet footprints on the
floor that are not angelic I realize something

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is very wrong. Something' s
very wrong and at that moment, you

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can' t do much. Maybe
they' re just creaking from the wood,

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sounds from the pipes. A little
animal in it. You already know

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everything the human head invents to explain
a phenomenon that has no explanation. A

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few days later another person arrives who
will live there on the top. He

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' s an Arisco subject, he
hardly talks, he puts his music and

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he locks himself in his apartment and
almost at the same time reaches a lovely

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couple. She' s a very
pretty, red, big girl. The

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husband' s subject is also a
nice- looking subject. They bring a

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baby probably about six months old,
a baby and a little boy, a

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rascal of about four years old.
They don' t know very well why

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they' re there and they don' t know it very well, especially

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the husband, because suddenly, a
few days ago, this woman got the

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idea that she had to change houses. It' s weird. The story

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of this couple is very rare.
Angelo or he doesn' t know all

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that. He just looked for a
place to live and found this. But

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this family had a different characteristic.
A few days ago, all of a

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sudden, she, that pretty redhead, had this huge anxiety about moving home

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in winter in New York and,
worse still, the pretext is because they

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had no space. The husband finally
accepted that woman put herself in a plan

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that there was no way to tell
her that she did not accept and they

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began to look. But every house
they found seemed perfect. There were beautiful

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apartments well located, with enough space
for them, four perfect, but suddenly

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the girl said no, but how
it is perfect. This is what we

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' ve been looking for. Not
this one. Worse, they still came

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to a beautiful apartment that had the
space, which had the location, which

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had the price, which was all
in place, and suddenly the kid still,

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when this apartment had a park opposite
and playgrounds, said this is not

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mom. The four- year-
old kid, the mom told him how

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not this isn' t mom.
We' re not going to live in

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this one. Mom said it'
s true. No. No one here

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understood. And one good day you
will suddenly find on this property, which

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is a little different from entrance,
it is not that wide. The price

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is reasonable because it is an old
house, but it is not nice when

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the husband sees it, says this
and the woman says yes, this is

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and the child says yes, Dad. This one? This one? This

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one? This one? This one? This one, and there' s

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no one to take them away.
It was all so weird. People don

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' t move in the middle of
winter unless it' s necessary. You

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can' t carry the boxes well. He doesn' t know if the

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heating works well. If everything'
s all right, let' s go.

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It' s not the right time
when you' re out, twelve

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or fourteen degrees below zero. And
yet they finally access this man and move

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there. And of course, as
you will imagine, they had their welcome

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the first night, even if they
wanted to wait a long time. The

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first night, while the wife is
sitting around putting something together, pulling stuff

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out of a box. Whatever it
is, the four- year- old

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boy who pulls his clothes and tells
Mom, I' m scared, but

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afraid of what she told me is
that there' s a woman. Where

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there' s a woman. He' s seeing me, he' s

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in my bed. The lady tells
you it can' t be, there

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' s no one. It'
s because the house is new. You

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don' t know her. You' re scared, go to sleep again.

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But, Mom, it' s
just that the woman is at the

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foot of my bed and she'
s staring at me. She' s

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an old woman She' s a
very ugly woman I' m really scared

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of her. Mom says good,
settle down here, and then she takes

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him to her bed. But things
start to happen to them, unlike what

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happened to Angelus with those weird sounds
They' re not just the sounds,

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but certain strange behaviors. The four- year- old. Until that moment

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he had been a boy, playful
rogue, a little rude. If you

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want to make sense, the,
the, but when you enter the department

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that I, change and change because
now suddenly the mother named Gill hears her

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son talk as if he was talking
to someone very seriously, very very very

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much as if he was actually talking
to someone answering, asking, moving.

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It wasn' t the classic game
of a kid who has two action dolls

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and one tells the other no.
No. Here' s a dialogue with

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someone. But as for Mom,
turn off the sound of the TV.

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The kid tells him I' m
playing. It' s invented. It

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' s all weird. She gets
to think it' s weird, but

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at the same time she doesn'
t pay much attention to it. And

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yet, those other sounds are heard
here and there. Sometimes it looks like

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someone moved a piece of furniture like
they pushed it. Other times it seems

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like someone just walked into the apartment
and when she gets up to see if

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her husband is gone. And worse
still, that time she saw the husband

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pass, she was sworn to see
him pass she walked into the apartment to

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the girl' s room, which
is actually her own room of them,

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because this is a small apartment and
saw him come in just like that,

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and when she got up from what
she was doing and went there ah and

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there was no one. Your husband
had not arrived. And that' s

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when he realized that what he had
seen was not the husband. That was

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a different figure, it was something
totally black, but at the same time

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I felt the need to stay here
and the kid kept talking about these strange,

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strange ways. While this happened in
Gill' s apartment, in Angelo

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' s apartment, there came a
time when it was heard as something was

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hitting the wall as if they wanted
to throw the wall and enter Angelo'

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s apartment, but there was no
how, because the walls of a basement

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are concrete and on the sides there
is land, there is no other house,

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there is no other room. It
was absurd and the sound was so

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clear But besides, the good friend
Angelo noticed a curious detail in the afternoons,

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some afternoons, when he came back
from the business carrying his things and

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so on, he found the owner
of the house to which he had rented

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the apartment stopped. Out there,
he would come up and say hello how

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you are what I can serve you. You can reach my correspondence. Why

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don' t you go through it. No. No, no, no,

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no. No. I' m
so sorry. No. I don

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' t want to bother myself.
You can pass my correspondence. And if

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Angel came in, he' d
leave his bag of stuff out there,

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pick up the mail and take it
away. He didn' t drop any

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twenty of what was going on.
He didn' t find it that weird.

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Finally, the owner, the owner
also had keys. Why didn'

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t you come in for your correspondence? I wasn' t going into any

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department. You just had to get
in the mailbox of the door and pull

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it out. I hadn' t
lent him that much interest in the matter.

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But while Angelo noticed this in Jill' s apartment, things weren'

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t going very well either. In
addition to that feeling of being observed,

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the feeling that someone suddenly came in, there was this other incident that greatly

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altered him. I just folded all
the little boy' s clothes very well

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and the baby' s clothes all
very nice. You know. These little

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clothes for six- month- old
babies, their socks, all very cute.

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Open the closet goes over there and
accommodates everything very well. That takes

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the clothes of the four- year- old baby, which smells very nice,

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because they use that soft detergent and
you know you put it in the

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closet. She closes the doors,
turns around to go and place other things,

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and suddenly the doors open and the
clothes start to come out, as

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if there was someone there to blow
her up there, she scandalizes herself from

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it, gives her courage, gives
her sadness that is happening. He does

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not understand, but as we are
reasonable, like humans, we always think

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of an explanation and more a new
yorquin who is accustomed to seeing the most

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impressive things in the world. He
just comes back, picks everything up,

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and pisses her off fast, closes
the doors, and straight away. She

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flies her clothes back out of the
room. Then that other very ugly thing

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happened, you know, that time
it did scare you. It was a

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nice winter day, but there was
no snow. That day there was a

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little sun. Around there half shy
and the conditions were appropriate. The boy,

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the four- year- old,
had received a nice Christmas present,

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a beautiful pedal cart. You know. This is not where the child sits

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and pedals for the cart to move, but it was very nice and it

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was yellow with little plastic hatches that
opened to enter and leave. The child

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is delighted and has asked his mother
twenty times to take him back so he

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can use him inside the apartment.
You can' t. There' s

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not enough space. So the mother
accepts. It' s a good time.

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It' s nice, take out
the cart, put it over there

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and the kid' s very happy. Open your little door and climb up

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close your little door and pedal over
there? Over there? Over there?

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Over there? While he' s
blabbering like he' s talking to someone.

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The mother is watching him from a
ledge that there is, she'

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s watching him go and come and
talk, like he' s talking to

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someone else. But actually, there' s no one else there. Finally,

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it' s time to go in. So the mother tells him that

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since they are already going inside that
the cold is already beginning, the child

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stops, opens the door of the
car, gets out, closes it again

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and walks to where the mother is. She' s looking at the cart,

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she' s funny about this whole
little door thing, and then she

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sees a weird detail. Suddenly.
The door opens, the door of the

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car opens, closes and the cart
starts to move and turns around and gets

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in and makes these moves and then
she scares the child out of her mind

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and says to God," Get
him in and put him in and then

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he realizes that the cart comes to
stand in the place where they had left

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him" Open the door, pull
down something you can' t see.

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Close the door and she feels like
something' s going on next to her.

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It has caused him so much fear
that he tells the husband what is

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happening. But the husband doesn'
t believe you. The husband doesn'

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t think that' s true and
he doesn' t care if that'

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s true. He tells her it
was probably the wind. She answers.

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I wouldn' t take my son
out on a windy winter afternoon. There

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was no wind. Then it was
a truck that passed and caused vibrations.

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That' s what you saw and
it turns around and it' s going

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to the snow to get something to
drink. These small phenomena were adding up

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one after the other. Sometimes it
was the smell, for example, that

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day that this woman enters a room
and is impressed when she perceives the smell

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of a man' s lotion,
a strong or a strong allusion, a

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common allusion, a strong neighborhood lotion
floods the entire space. But that allusion

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is not even remotely the one your
husband would use and of course at home

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they don' t have any of
this. And it would seem that someone

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had taken some of these that came
with the small bottle, emptied it by

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the small bottle of perfumes, to
the point that he had to get the

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boys out of there and open a
window in the middle of winter. The

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smell is so strong and not to
say from down there with an angelo,

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because sometimes the smell down there is
horrible. The guy upstairs, however,

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hardly talks seems like he' s
not there. Only sometimes do you see

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him getting cranky and have you ever
seen him come down quickly in the particular

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case of Gill. Those phenomena happen
at any time. It' s always

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the same time down there, but
then these other weird things happen. You

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know because suddenly that day the phone
rings is so weird, you hear three

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very long unusual sounds and when you
answer, the only thing you hear is

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a gurgling, a weird noise,
like gutural, like ugly. And it

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goes away while all this happens,
everyone in your department, everyone in your

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world is assuming that it can be
they haven' t agreed. They don

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' t know what' s going
on. Only sometimes at three in the

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morning. At a point you hear
the guy who lives upstairs running down and

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out at 3: 00 in the
morning. One of so many occasions,

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one day the three, the three
families are there, the three individuals meet

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for some reason and begin to talk
with the classic question. Listen, you

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' re the one who lives downstairs. Yeah, yeah, I' m

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the person who occupies the apartment downstairs. Listen, I' m sorry,

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you guys who make the weird noises
at night. No, I don'

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t make any noise. It'
s just that in my apartment it sounds

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like they' re moving the furniture. But when we go there' s

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nothing. Nobody' s moved anything. No, I don' t.

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And I hear things too. You' re the ones who scratch the floor.

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They have a dog, no.
We don' t have a dog,

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we don' t have a pet. And in the evenings the children

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are sleeping. It' s just
that in my apartment you hear this and

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this and casually at that moment the
guy upstairs is coming in, who'

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s a guy, a little fat, like unwashed, like more lazy given

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to the good life. When you
pass by I greet you, say good

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words and follow your path and someone
asks you to hear forgiveness. You hear

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a noise. So and so and
the guy hardly answers, he stands on

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the ladder watching them after a while. He' s also starting to talk

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about his thing. And in his
apartment, while he hasn' t seen

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these shadows if he hears noises,
he' s got strange things. But

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when they' re talking about this, he says that all that' s

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normal, that it' s an
old house, he scratches over here and

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he grabs over there and he goes
on his way up to his apartment,

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while these other two are here talking
and they take into account two or three

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things. The sounds do not provoke
Angelo, do not provoke Gill And,

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however, they are heard in both
departments as if they happened in the middle

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of the two. And then there' s that other thing of the hour.

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When Angel mentions it at three in
the morning, this girl gets nervous

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because she' s been through that, too, and the guy who was

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out there who' s coming down
now comments that he' s also heard

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things at three in the morning,
which is logical because of the cold,

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because they don' t complain,
I don' t know how much.

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And all that becomes very strange,
because they realize that at that moment,

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standing outside on the sidewalk, is
the owner of the house. Seeing them

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When she looks at Angelo and asks
what she offers, she simply tells her

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you can pass me my correspondence and
she tells her, please, go through

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her. I can' t why
you can' t. Please pass me

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the mail. And point is so
weird. It is clear that the young

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woman, that one, the mother, has not told that she was attracted

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to this place and that her child
was particularly attracted and omitted to mention that

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of the cart and things like those
weird talks that the child has a couple

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of days later Angel visits her father. No greater than in the South Bronx

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area. He' s a man
who has a business. Over there,

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while they' re talking, obviously, that guy. The father asks how

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he' s doing in his new
house, how he' s doing in

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the apartment. La La are Italian, they are people of Italian origin,

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noisy, noisy, lots of laughs
and suddenly you tell her that at home

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we have a problem. Like what' s going on and tell Dad what

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' s going on. And the
dad without hesitation twice says wait, I

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' ll talk to a friend.
I' ll help you. I'

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m going to talk to a friend
and yes, he talked to a friend

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and he knows who the friend was. It turns out that this man was

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a friend of an old Yorquin policeman, a man who had been in force

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at that time at least sixteen years, a police sergeant, a man who

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had seen the most rugged things you
can imagine within the city itself was in

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the precinct forty- six. So
it was up to the delicate part of

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the city where you could see it
from executions, violence, domestic violence.

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This police sergeant had seen dead,
had been involved in arrests, in shootings,

418
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:15.319
in horrible things, but he wasn' t going to look for him.

419
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That' s not why this cop
was Ralph Sorchi. You heard him

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00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:32.559
mention it. Ralph Sorche was not
only a policeman, but a secular monologue,

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00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:38.279
a man who over the years had
begun to take an interest in these

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00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:45.640
phenomena. Look Surchi had come into
contact with these things while he was a

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cop, finding situations where there was
no explanation. Why did this happen?

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00:33:50.680 --> 00:33:53.039
How did this happen? And little
by little he realized that there was something

425
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:57.319
else, that there was something that
came to affect people and that it wasn

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' t the drug and that it
wasn' t the violence of places,

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00:34:00.519 --> 00:34:06.480
but something else. Shortly after he
began to realize that there was this,

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00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:13.039
another met people who were guiding him, who were guiding him, came into

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00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:16.360
contact with the church. He was
a lifelong Catholic. Obviously, he was

430
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:22.119
a man who had been in contact
with his church because of his own work

431
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:25.880
had led him to seek faith.
But besides that, he was a believing

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00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:31.559
man and began to realize all this. Ralph Sarche even came into contact with

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00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:37.440
the Warrens with Edy Loren Warren.
He was there when the New York chapter

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00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:40.800
of the Psychic Research Society of New
England opened. He was part of that

435
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:46.079
team and was a man who began
to study not only the subject of the

436
00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:53.000
paranormal, but demonic phenomena. Specifically
these protected in the old exorcism of Leo

437
00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:58.119
XIII, the exorcism of the laity, lesser exorcism, also call him from

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00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:01.800
back in the twenties, this man
had begun to collaborate with the Church,

439
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:09.719
not only as a policeman, but
also as a believer, engaging in investigations

440
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:15.119
of paranormal cutting, demonic cutting.
This had led him to walk very strange

441
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:20.840
routes, routes in which he had
discovered places where black magic was practiced,

442
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:25.719
where Santería, pigeon yombe, was
practiced, and to realize that many of

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00:35:25.800 --> 00:35:32.679
these characters involved there later also participated
in criminal matters and that all of this

444
00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:40.280
somehow had a relationship. And it
was when he understood that there were different

445
00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:46.280
phenomena, that some of them affected
one place, others affected one object,

446
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:51.119
others affected one person in their surroundings, others affected the person internally. And

447
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:57.039
so little by little he got to
know this and came into contact with people

448
00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:00.800
who were inside the church, but
also people who were outside, and so

449
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:06.800
gradually he became the man of trust. It was not a simple job,

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00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:10.599
not clear that no, besides facing
the ridicule of the other comrades of the

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00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:15.639
force, because sometimes it intervened,
like that time that some of his companions

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00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:21.559
of the thirty- six precinct touched
things that they found in a place where

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00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:23.159
black magic had been done and he
had to go to help them. But

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00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:27.000
at first no one believed him.
At first, everyone made fun of this

455
00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:30.599
as the devil doesn' t complain
about it. Then, when they couldn

456
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:32.159
' t handle it, they called
him and this made him famous. And

457
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:37.440
that' s how they met Angelo' s dad. Of course the first

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00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:43.719
thing was to do some research,
where the house is, what the phenomena

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00:36:43.719 --> 00:36:46.400
are. It' s not about
arriving like the cavalry with a camera and

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00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:52.280
seeing what we found. It'
s not a question of investigating, of

461
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:59.559
knowing what' s going on there
and so it was the first call a

462
00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:00.880
telephonem and then those little details came
up. First, but where are you

463
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:07.039
stuck to the cemetery? That was
a first warning signal. Ralph Sarche knew

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00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:14.440
that of those old cemeteries, these
sorcery groups stole human remains for their criminal

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00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:21.480
activities, for those rites destined for
the devil. They took the human remains

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00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:25.639
of those cemeteries, knowing that they
are little cared for places. He had

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00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:30.440
already had to investigate that. So
when he finds out about that detail he

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00:37:30.480 --> 00:37:35.400
starts to worry. But not only
that when you start to hear that the

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00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:38.559
phenomenon is always repeated at 3:
00 in the morning. That' s

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00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:43.559
when he realizes there' s something
else. The sounds the fact that he

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00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:47.639
had run three times the voices that
seemed to come out of somewhere and then

472
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:54.239
not soon afterwards he asks if he
has done something there and he reports that

473
00:37:54.800 --> 00:38:00.639
no, but he mentions the detail
of the owner, which makes him think

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00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:05.960
that the current tenants were not the
cause of the problem, but the victims.

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00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:09.760
Maybe the owner was involved. It' s hard to tell. That

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00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:14.320
woman had left the house and ordered
it to be fixed. She probably didn

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00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:21.719
' t know it until she lived
it. Oh, it wasn' t

478
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:25.360
hard to know. Still, they
decide to organize the group. The group

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00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:30.760
that collaborates with Ralph Sarche is a
group of volunteers and also a member of

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00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:37.320
the church, Brother Andrew. But
it' s not anything. To be

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00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:40.960
able to attend one of these visits, one of these services requires many things,

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00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:45.880
among others, to be prepared by
following the rites of the Catholic Church.

483
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:52.199
They are Catholics, but they also
have members who are not Catholics who

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00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:58.360
belong to some Evangelical, Presbyterian,
Methodist church. The issue is not one

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00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:00.800
or inform everything. It' s
about if you' re from this church,

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00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:06.719
getting ready for your church' s
own beliefs, but get ready for

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00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:12.639
grace, ask the favor up there
to support you. If you are Catholic,

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00:39:13.159 --> 00:39:15.400
confess, see the church, see
Communion, go to Mass. Prepare

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00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:20.599
yourself a few days before with fasting
to stop the distractions of the world,

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00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:22.519
move away, from television, from
the Internet, from whatever it is focus

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00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:27.880
on prayer. Get ready because you' re going to face a monster that

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00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:30.639
can claw you in a moment.
You have to be sure what you'

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00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:35.159
re going to do and he knows
it. It' s not about going

494
00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:39.800
to slap a bum on the street
or subjugating some criminal. It' s

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00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:45.800
about facing the father of all these
terrible vices and things, and the only

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00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:50.719
way to do it is this.
It' s not thanks, it'

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00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:55.079
s not your fight. It is
a struggle between heavenly and hellish powers,

498
00:39:57.039 --> 00:40:01.679
and he knows it. They prepare
with him in advance. They prepare some

499
00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:07.239
elements, holy water, of course, according to the ancient Roman ritual,

500
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:15.159
the Roman ritual of the sixteenth century, are the elements that can be handled

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00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:25.360
exorcised salt water, oil blessed or
exorcised incense and the different prayers for lay

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00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:30.360
rituals, that is, for people
who are not exorcists authorized by the Vatican.

503
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:36.079
There is the old Ritual of Leo
XIII, published in the 22nd century,

504
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:40.599
which is basically a prayer for St
Michael and even though it is not

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00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:45.960
widely recognized, not so well recognized, but authorized for use as if it

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00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:47.800
were any prayer of the day.
It is a prayer that is very busy.

507
00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:54.280
They get there and start talking.
Of course, what those people confess

508
00:40:54.440 --> 00:41:01.000
to having lived there is an unequivocal
sign. Fortunately, it hasn' t

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00:41:01.079 --> 00:41:06.280
happened to adults. When Ralph asks
Angelo, all the phenomena have been external,

510
00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:14.000
an infestation. When Father Andro enters, what he perceives is that there

511
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:17.639
is a dark presence. Without hesitation, Father Andro is a very sensitive person

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00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:22.239
and detects that there is a dark
presence, a being of darkness that dwells

513
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:25.440
in this place and that he has
realized that they have arrived and he has

514
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:29.960
noticed and is afraid because they will
expel him. But do not lose sight

515
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:36.920
of that even when it is a
lesser demon, it is far superior to

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00:41:37.039 --> 00:41:42.079
anyone in your knowledge, in your
abilities, in deception and in your strength.

517
00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:45.880
The demons finally, before they were
angels. So they' re careful.

518
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:52.480
No matter the category, it doesn' t matter if they' re

519
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:54.119
hierarchs or if they' re just
down. They' re still incredibly dangerous.

520
00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:01.039
They begin to tour the places and
realize that there are rare things everywhere,

521
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:06.920
sensations, emotions, temperature changes,
sudden movements and that they do not

522
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:12.840
seem to correspond with themselves shadow changes
that should not occur. And there'

523
00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:19.039
s something going on there at the
time. They ask that both Mrs Gill

524
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:23.960
and Angels approach talk. But the
third tenant doesn' t show up the

525
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:25.880
man who lives on the third floor
hasn' t come down. He has

526
00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:31.199
been warned that they will come,
but does not turn down the time runs

527
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:37.360
and then decide to prepare to start
the ritual even when that guy is not

528
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:38.960
there and in that he goes down
and is overshadowed with a beer. He

529
00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:44.320
' s an unwelcome person, he
says he doesn' t really care about

530
00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:46.960
this and he goes back up.
It' s okay. Turn on the

531
00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:55.400
radio at full volume with strident rock
music. Heavy. There they begin to

532
00:42:55.440 --> 00:43:00.840
do prayer and this prayer is very
special. He knows why it' s

533
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:06.440
all about surrounding the building, blocking
everything that he can' t stay like

534
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:09.000
that is dividing them into two groups. One group will go to the first

535
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:13.880
level and another will stay in the
basement. Corner corner corner, corner window

536
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:20.679
by window door. Everything must be
sprinkled with holy water placed, a yarn,

537
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:23.800
a thin, thread of salt and
prayer in every corner, in every

538
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:28.599
door, in every vain, in
every space. It' s about removing

539
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:32.599
the hideouts that are nowhere to hide, leaving the place sealed and starting to

540
00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:37.960
do it at the same time on
both levels, but just starting thirty or

541
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:40.480
seconds later, when just the incense
is flooding the rooms, the guy goes

542
00:43:40.559 --> 00:43:45.880
down, running desperate, all scared
and joins. He didn' t mean

543
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:52.000
it had happened, but Ralph Sarchey
and his team know perfectly well what happened

544
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:55.000
the moment they started praying. That
went to the apartment of this monkey and

545
00:43:55.079 --> 00:44:01.880
nightmares began, because several phenomena occur
simultaneously while in prayer. Even though it

546
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:06.119
' s not a case of possession
as such and it' s not an

547
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:08.440
exorcism, what can happen is that
you get turned off by the lights,

548
00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:13.360
you feel wind, you close doors, you get whipped up, other objects

549
00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:16.280
move, because you don' t
want to leave. Andrew, the father

550
00:44:16.400 --> 00:44:22.840
is doing his prayers little by little, and that is spreading. The ugly

551
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:27.760
smell is covered with the smell of
the blessed incense that floods the room gently.

552
00:44:28.320 --> 00:44:32.119
The voice that strong andro, makes
everything tremble is an individual of normal

553
00:44:32.159 --> 00:44:37.639
appearance, but when the prayer speaks, that is a voice that makes the

554
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:44.239
walls vibrate in the windows. It' s all over and they' re

555
00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:47.599
slowly going up. Every corner,
every corner, every minimal loophole is reviewed

556
00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:53.679
with blessed detail and entrusted every door
of a closet, every door of a

557
00:44:53.760 --> 00:45:00.760
bathroom, every corner, until they
give more than midnight and have finished the

558
00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:08.440
return home can be dangerous to get
out of there that only God knows where

559
00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:13.280
he is going, because, in
fact, part of the prayer is to

560
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:19.000
make a small statement. I command
you in the name of Christ, our

561
00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:22.679
lord, to leave this place and
go where the Father himself commands you without

562
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:29.119
harming anyone. It is a way
to expel, wrapping, not letting loose,

563
00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:34.239
not throwing the beast that wanders around, but wrapping it and deploiting it.

564
00:45:34.360 --> 00:45:40.960
But there may still be some consequences, certain details ran with luck that

565
00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:47.000
night. There was no problem,
though of course, before he left,

566
00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:52.599
Ralph Surchy warned people two or three
things. First, expect there to be

567
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:59.280
some weird sensations, for at least
a few days. You may hear movement

568
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:02.760
and things as if there was something
else. Don' t worry. It

569
00:46:02.880 --> 00:46:08.800
' s all closed. Don'
t be fooled, but also do me

570
00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:15.679
a huge favor. Go to church, come, get in peace, stay

571
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:21.639
away from whatever brought you here.
Close that, protect the child. The

572
00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:27.599
child is sensitive. And finally,
don' t talk about this. Rolp

573
00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:32.360
Sarche made a very clear warning.
Don' t talk about what happened here

574
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:37.599
among you with the people who visit
the place, because talking about it is

575
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:45.199
calling it. So, given the
warning, they' re retreating. Sorchi

576
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:50.880
would clarify that very probably what was
there was something they had carried during a

577
00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:54.480
black rite, a dark rit,
someone who had probably searched for this place,

578
00:46:55.480 --> 00:47:00.559
specifically because of the proximity to a
cemetery to perform some sort of sorcery.

579
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:05.440
After a while, the situation had
gone out of control. They had

580
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:07.519
looked for another option. I don' t know they were gone, but

581
00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:10.880
they had left contaminated place. Places
like this and according to what this researcher

582
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:20.880
and exorcist talks about, lay people
are frequent and although they usually do not

583
00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:29.119
try to harm the person, but
to provoke fear, scare off generating things,

584
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:32.159
there are times when they are attracted
to a person because of their capacity,

585
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:38.840
their sensitivity and the possibility of occupying
it. It is when this becomes

586
00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:47.639
dangerous and clear, this subject has
lived experiences for years. Sarchi continues to

587
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:52.440
do this today. Also, of
course, in his name with tremendous fame.

588
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:59.400
He has several books published and,
of course, this is just a

589
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:05.920
small sample of his work. What
would you think of this. Certainly,

590
00:48:06.760 --> 00:48:35.920
it is a subject to be taken
with truth, careful good night until soon to