Carmen Marín La endemoniada de Santiago | Relatos del lado oscuro (Podcast)

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On many occasions we have spoken of
a dispute surrounding the phenomenon, demonic possession.

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It is a dispute between rational thinking
that indicates that there must be a

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disease behind the phenomena and the phenomenon
let' s call it paranormal. This

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discussion has had some strange encounters in
which both parties present their letters, both

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parties present their data, both sides
face each other and to this day,

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although on many occasions reason has taken
the battle, there are some cases in

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which it has not been possible to
fully explain this. Those few cases are

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the ones that draw our attention why
he doesn' t stay with me and

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I tell him one of those cases
accounts of the dark side for strange beings.

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Happening is inexplicable, diversity, family
stories that other minds prefer to ignore,

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let me take it back in time. We are in Santiago de Chile,

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in one thousand eight hundred and fifty- seven. On one of those

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dusty streets of a city in the
mid- 19th century, a priest walks,

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that is, a priest, a
man who already has in the third

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degree of priestly ordinance and yet is
a very young man is Joseph Raimundo Cisternas.

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He' s the son of a
wealthy, big bolengo family, so

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he' s a guy with a
lot of backing. He has contact with

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bishop, with the archbishop, family
ties have led him to be quite appreciated,

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but he is an intelligent man.
He' s got a modern thought,

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he' s read a lot.
It is not easy to achieve old

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dogmas and old beliefs. The fact
of being a relatively young priest has hardly

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been ordained in the month of March
of one thousand eight hundred and fifty-

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seven and now it is June.
So probably just a few months ago it

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' s been ordered. It is
also influenced by French rational thinking, by

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many other things. Inside his head
there is always a concern to know more.

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That day, as he walks down
that dusty street, he happens to

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meet two friends of his. They
are two priests, greet each other politely,

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give the traditional religious greeting, ask
how they are, give two or

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three blessings, each equally and finally
begin to talk about a topic that is

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in the air. During the previous
months a rumor has begun to emerge about

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a spirited woman, that is,
affected by evil spirits. There' s

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been a lot of rumor here and
there. José Raimundo Cisternas himself has listened

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to him and seemed to him something
pointless, something that has no greater interest

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for him, that he is a
rational man, although he is a man

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of faith, he is a rational
man. So that seems to you to

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be some fantasy. And every time
someone approaches the parish, or in the

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curia or anywhere to ask him and
tell him about the horrible case of the

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spirited woman, he always responds in
the same way. He' s not

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interested. These are fantasies that only
distract people' s minds and hearts from

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the true object, which is God' s service. But on this occasion

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the conversation with those two colleagues becomes
much more interesting because one of them assures

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that he knows from a good source
that this woman has been treated by the

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best doctors of the time and that
they have not found a solution and that

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the case goes far beyond Jose Raimundo
knows the place and knows the nuns who

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care for him. It is the
hospice of Maestranza Street, a rather grim

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and sinister building where many people,
both orphaned and alienated children and people who

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are called idiots, taken there.
The nuns are kind enough and he knows

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the place. After talking a little
more, why don' t we go.

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Those two priests who also have the
afternoon free accept why we don'

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t go there and head fast and
fast attracted by the curiosity of seeing what

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this is all about. Obviously,
José Raimundo cisterns, the priest Don José

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Raimundo. The first thing he thinks
is we' re going to go unmasking

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a person, whether it' s
fantasy or he' s making a hoax.

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When they get there, they do
recognize him and greet him. He

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has sent his own running, that
is, a boy who found out there

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made him run to warn them that
they were going there. It' s

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all set. When you enter the
room it is a spacious, very austere

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room. All there is is a
bed, a mattress lying on the floor

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and another bed over there. The
bed is where a young woman is lying.

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The other bed is for the caretaker
of that young woman and the mattress

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on the floor serves for the woman
to lie down there when she gets the

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attacks. As he approaches, José
Raimundo, who also has some medical studies,

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politely greets him and asks how he
is. The answer at the moment

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is rather rare. The environment in
general is strange. One of the nuns

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comes up and tells her she'
s in one of the attacks. In

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his opinion, the pulse is completely
normal. The young woman has an ordinary

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appearance. She' s not an
extraordinarily big woman, she' s not

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a rather light- sized person.
Signs of an ancient disease such as smallpox

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can be seen on his face,
with marks on his face, but they

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are not dramatic either. Seeing a
little more sideways, you can tell that

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there are certain peculiar marks of sangria
and that leeches have been applied to the

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lower part of the head, a
very common treatment of the time. You

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can also see the same in your
arms. After a few moments of watching

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her, she comes up with an
idea. If this woman is pretending to

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have demonic attacks and I don'
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going to take the idea out and
make her react, so she immediately orders

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that a plate be brought as hot
as possible to be applied to her stomach

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mouth. An iron, an iron
plate with which the clothes are ironed and

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put against the coal as hot as
possible. Once he does this, he

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turns around and says you want me
to put an iron to what an unusual

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voice and that doesn' t seem
to correspond with that girl he answers her

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burning, but nothing happens to me. There' s a strange moment.

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The other two priests cannot help but
make signs of the cross repeatedly at the

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same time that one goes to look
with the shaking hand for the rosary that

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he carries by the waist and with
the same trembling hand begins to pass beads.

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Well, I' ll apply the
iron to your stomach mouth and you

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' ll see how you take that
away from what that strange and unusual voice

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responds to again, you' ll
burn it, but to me not the

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priest asks then why you speak in
the third person. I only see a

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woman here and from there a series
of very strange things begin. The young

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woman of normal appearance begins to suffer
these strange attacks, these convulsions, this

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hustle, especially, when the priest
begins to read some psalms to say of

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the caregiver who is a nun of
charity, informs her that that puts her

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as crazy, that she is completely
deranged and, in fact, deranged.

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He begins to do very strange things
and swirls against the wall and beats himself

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to the ground and hits himself to
the point that it seems that two of

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the nuns of charity who are out
there are going to kill themselves to try

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to hold her. But it'
s like there' s no one holding

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her. I repeat, she is
not an extraordinarily large woman. And yet,

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those two nuns do not manage to
contain it and it continues to strike

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and throws itself there one of the
caretakers to do that tells it the only

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thing that reassures it and is the
Gospel of St John. One of the

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priests who is there has his Bible
with him and quickly seeks the Gospel of

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St John. To do this he
settles down in a chair, takes out

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the book and begins to read the
Gospel of St John, which does not

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work for him at all. And
that woman keeps doing weird things. He

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twists and makes a series of noises
that make him feel an unusual nervousness,

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to the point that the other priest, the one who had his face in

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his trembling hand, falls off,
picks it up, turns it back and

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everything is very strange. When suddenly
sorry the caretaker tells him that good he

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has to pray on his knees.
The priest who accompanies them, that is,

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the other priest who had begun to
read himself on his knees and began

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to read him on his knees.
Then everything calms down and the young woman

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returns to her place, She joins
and quietly greets without remembering anything. It

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becomes clear you don' t know
what you' re talking about. The

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girl answers some questions quietly, has
a positive answer to her pulse. It

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' s totally normal to speak with
a voice of that body, of that

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person. The young woman must be
about nineteen years old at most the story

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of this person. The priest,
José Raimundo, does not know her.

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You' ve just heard of the
spirit and as you approach, what you

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think is that all this is very
rare. This matter of the Gospel that

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needs to be read to calm him
down, this matter that when we pray

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psalms, it is completely transformed,
so he decides to go and put a

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little eye on the archdiocese to ask
permission to get involved by going out.

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From there he goes to the archbishop' s office, to whom he talks

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about this situation. In response,
he is instructed to conduct an in-

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depth investigation. Other priests, deacons
and priests have been there. In fact,

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several of his acquaintances have been involved
in this and they have all come

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out with a lot of terror,
claiming that it is a terrible case.

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However, with this modern rational mentality
of the presbyter cisterns, he decides to

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investigate more And the first thing he
does is call doctors. Yeah, calling

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the doctors invites at least ten doctors
to go. He wants to know the

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opinion of science. Science had begun
to make important advances at the time,

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although the Freudian idea of psychoanalysis and
unconsciousness and the hidden erotic and so on

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did not yet exist, because Freud
had just been born. There were already

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some theories about ovarian hysterism and brain
hysterism in women, a rather primitive idea

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to call it in some way,
but that would try to explain this to

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the main doctors of the city of
Santiago at that time begins to send letters

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inviting them to go there and give
their opinion. After this, go back

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there with the sisters of charity to
investigate a little more about the young woman.

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It' s a very rare case. This young woman is originally from

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Valparaíso. He was born in a
thousand nine hundred thirty- eight. Just

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like he looked. This young woman
is about nineteen years old. That father

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- and- mother orphan didn'
t know him. She died shortly before

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she was born and the mother died
shortly after she was born. An aunt

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of hers took care of picking her
up after the mother' s death,

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giving her a little upbringing and then
sending her to the country to be cared

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for by a family there. The
girl grew up during the first years of

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her life with a totally foreign family
in a country house. When the girl

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is about five or six years old, the aunt goes to her where she

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is and back in Valparaíso. She
enters a school where she begins to study

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some things, the first letters and
so on. It is according to what

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is known an entirely normal person.
Around the age of twelve, the girl

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is admitted to the school of N
de la Monjas Française. It is a

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private institution of prestige entrusted to nuns
of French origin, of course, and

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do not lose sight of that.
French is also taught during classes, which

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was very well seen at the time, and that' s where weird things

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begin. Father Cisternas does not know
until that moment, he has heard nothing

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but rumors, but this time he
begins to know a little more. That

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is where the problem begins, being
in that school, in one of those

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many afternoons they entrust the prayer of
the Most Holy, watching the Most Holy,

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which is a Catholic custom where people
go and kneel next to the votive

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lamps, where the consecrated host is
kept to pray. It' s a

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wake. The girl is ordered to
go there that afternoon from the moment she

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leaves her room. This bedroom,
which she shares with several girls, has

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been very nervous. And she has
been very nervous because as she goes on

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walking with a lamppost alone, she
does not lose sight of the fact that

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she is one thousand eight hundred and
fifty- seven, she has not lit

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up in the houses or, much
less in the schools. He seemed to

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see that there are things that cross
his path as if they were dogs.

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But when he lifts the lamppost,
there' s nothing. Then, turning

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around in a corner of that building
to reach the chapel, it suddenly seems

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to him that something big, like
a large lump, has crossed beside it

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and felt this chill so ugly that
when turning the lantern it realizes that there

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is nothing. He follows his path
and enters the chapel. Being there,

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it is well, while in prayer
before the Most Holy, that is,

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in front of the sacristy. And
all this feels good. But time goes

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by and about ten o' clock
at night, when her replacement is expected

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to come, she starts to feel
something like a weird cold, a nervousness

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that would invade her after having felt
a lot of fear at that time,

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having felt a deep fear that something
would happen without knowing what. When the

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replacement arrives, she takes the lantern
with which she lights up and goes back

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feeling a constant chill, as she
would recount. As he walked through those

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dark corridors of the old building in
front of her, the strange shadows and

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the huge lump that has now accompanied
him appeared again, so he rushed the

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step by taking that lamp to enter
his bedroom. When she' s there,

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she puts on her bedding and goes
to bed while sleeping in a strange

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sleep. The invasion is a very
realistic, very realistic and terrifying dream,

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because in her dream she is waging
a terrible struggle with demons, demons who

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besiege her, who mistreat her,
who hurt her, who want to dominate

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her. When she wakes up she
realizes that she is being held by several

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of the nuns and their roommates are
terrified because she has attacked them in the

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middle of the night. He wasn' t fighting demons, he was hurting

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friends, the comrades who were sleeping
there, he assaulted them. A zacapela

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was built that ended up dominating her
between four or five nuns, because even

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though she was only about thirteen years
old, it would barely take a year

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to be there, they could not
contain her. Such was the violence of

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that. When she reacts and finally
incorporates a little and is already controlled,

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stop attacking her has no memory of
what has happened. It would be the

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nuns themselves who would narrate those events
and she would give her spiritual confessor the

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information about what she had felt at
the time, supposing that it would be

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a brain disease, that is,
a form of madness. It' s

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called a doctor to take care of
her. The doctor begins the treatment,

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as expected, and the treatment goes
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does. They apply, for example, snow caps, a practice to deflate

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the brain. It was believed that
sometimes, brain inflammation could cause this,

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so they put on snow caps.
Leeches were also applied to him. Excessive

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blood pressure in the head can lead
to madness. Bloodbleeds were also applied,

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i e, functions to shed a
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Rain baths were also applied, a
practice that helps young girls at an early

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age reduce female hysteria a little moderately. But that doesn' t seem to

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have worked out much, because some
time later, that girl whose name,

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by the way, is Carmen Marín, is back the family. It hasn

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' t been long. And when
the family is back, the attacks continue

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and with increasing force. These attacks
in which you suddenly lose completely react violently.

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When they come to pray her,
she gets hysterical, goes crazy,

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assaults, bites until her brother Harto
locks her in a room and beats her

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to death. He hits her like
she' s a sack, like she

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' s an animal. Such is
the beating that the neighbors and acquaintances have

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to intervene to remove it before it
kills her, the brother, who by

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the way was a drunk, claimed
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blows he would be taken away.
Of course, not only was it not

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removed, but it had to be
removed. However, and ironically she wasn

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' t aware of that, she
hadn' t felt any blow, she

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hadn' t heard anything. The
injuries the brother had inflicted on him,

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which would probably be very serious,
healed very little time, leaving minimal marks

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as if he had done nothing.
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hospital. She' d also be
taken with a healer. There is no

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way to define it, where he
would spend two months during which he was

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quite well, but when he returned
to the city, the attacks would return

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as the days passed and desperate the
aunt and family tired of being dealing with

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this problem that is now about three
years old from the beginning until finally she

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was admitted to a hospital for alienated, alienated patients and there they leave him

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desperate for despotic treatment, for contempt, for abuse. Almost as an animal

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he decides to take his life one
afternoon when no one watches him, he

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has gotten a rope that ties in
a part of the bed, tightens it

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tightly around his neck and takes his
life for his good fortune. Despite having

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put the latch on the door,
one of the nuns who makes her usual

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journey, realizes that the door is
closed, realizes that something is happening and

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finally knocks down at the door.
Despite having spent several hours with the rope

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around her neck, she' s
not dead. After a while, the

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doctor who assists him or her to
help her recover her reacts, and despite

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being suffocated for so long, she
reacts fully. There' s no mark

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on the neck of the wound,
there' s nothing left. After this

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she is sent to another hospital,
where, in the same way, she

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is given baths, sangrias, leeches, everything that comes to mind is dictated

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that she is an incurable disease.
Therefore, and at about eighteen years of

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age, that is, a few
months before the priest goes, she is

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sent to the hospice of the nuns
of Charity on the street maestanza, today,

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street of Portugal. Being there,
he' s still suffering from the

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attacks. That' s obvious,
and they' re frequent attacks. It

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' s not something that happens and
from time to time it' s something

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that haunts you almost all the time. There are times when it seems to

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invade a kind of silent attack,
where there is a strange rigidity. These

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are usually very long, but then
there are also some variants that are noisy

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where it causes all sorts of rare
phenomena and these last for a short time,

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but alternate several times a day.
Every time. When she reacts,

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she doesn' t remember anything,
but she doesn' t show any signs

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of anything. Several of the accounts
given during the investigation to the priest said

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things like when a glass of glass
with water was brought to him, and

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when he came closer, instead of
drinking the water, he bit the glass

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and ate it without harm. It
is also said that they have applied all

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kinds of things to him, since
synapses, which are some species, a

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kind of mustard compress that is very
iris that is destined to provoke a reaction.

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Synapisms are to provoke a reaction in
the person. They are irritating,

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they are hurtful and apply hot and
she had no reaction. According to the

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nuns themselves. At some point,
one of the doctors who has come has

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put needles into areas that are particularly
painful and during the attacks, she has

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no reaction. They have also shown
at some point that he has a knowledge

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of hidden things because by bringing him
a glass of water, but he also

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has a few drops of holy water, he has not touched it. He

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threw it away immediately. Instead,
on that same occasion they bring another glass

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that does not have the drops of
holy water and drinks it calmly. Several

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tests have been done, but they
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They have noticed two or three details. For example, when someone prays

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the Old Testament Bible psalms, this
provokes a very violent reaction in either stage,

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either in the silent stage or in
the active stage. She acts violently.

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When it is in the silent,
it twists in such a dramatic way

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that it seems to be breaking,
but it makes a peculiar noise, a

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noise that causes a lot of fear
to those who have heard it, because

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there seems to be something inside moving
as if there was something swimming in the

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fluid of the abdomen. That'
s the noise you hear and a series

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of sterors like they' re bursting
their lungs. It' s such an

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ugly noise that a lot of people
have run away. And when he is

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in the active phase, when he
has these noisy attacks, he displays signs

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of violence, he whips himself,
breaks things, screams and speaks with voices

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that are not typical of a young
girl, as well as speaking terrible obsenities.

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It' s not what you think
much. It was said at the

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time that the young woman used to
leave the hospice to go into the docks

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and there get entangled with sailors.
I didn' t really go out.

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She was sick, the hospice was
locked up, you couldn' t go

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out and in hospitals for alienated people
less. So it didn' t make

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sense. He couldn' t have
escaped to contact drunken and rude sailors.

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The fact is that, after hearing
all this, the priest José Raymundos cisterns,

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decides to start the investigations. You' ve known two or three things.

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There they have the elements, so
they begin to arrive pphlegmatic doctors of

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top hat to the usage of the
nineteenth century connoisseurs of the subject. All

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arrive with the same characteristic to take
the pulse, to check the heartbeat,

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to examine, for example, that
the body is well formed, that there

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are no anomalies, that there is
no excessive weight or lack of it,

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that it is observed, for example, that the denture is in very good

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condition, that it has no cavities, that it does not lack any dental

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part, the eyes have no malformation
and no redness is observed when it is

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calm. But there is another peculiarity
and that is that attacks, when they

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are noisy, occur about every three
hours. But she says exactly what she

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' s now going to start while
she' s in the attack. Before

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it stops. She reports through these
rare voices that are heard when the next

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attack comes, the attacks are alternating. It' s not always the same

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guy. Sometimes it takes several days
when the noise is not present and it

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is only this clausus, this silent
phenomenon, ugly rigid at other times is

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the other way around. But when
he talks he warns so that they know

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when it' s going to happen, so doctors come in, do their

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thing and wait around when the attack
starts. It' s very easy to

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distinguish. Carmen Carmen Marín. He
realizes he' s about to start,

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because he starts to hear this ugly
whistle. It is a very sharp whistle

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that starts from the left side and
then turns inside your head until you reach

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the right side. And that'
s when she gets lost and she doesn

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' t know anything anymore. They
realize it' s starting, because what

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it does is raise your hand as
if you wanted to cover your ear,

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as if you wanted to cover up
and then cover your eye and then make

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this move and get lost. From
there, things are going really bad.

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When this happens in front of some
doctors, the priest asks them to,

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please, wait and he will give
you a sample of how he reacts and

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orders a deacon or someone out there
to read a psalm, the reaction is

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immediately violent and he begins to groan
and his or her or make horrible noises,

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While he does not vomit things as
usual, if there are a series

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of very strange phenomena in extreme,
for example, during one of these sessions,

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one of the nuns begins to sing
in French is a hymn, it

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is a praise in French. The
young woman listens attentively and begins to sing

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the praise in exactly the same tone, in the same metric, with the

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same rhymes, but has replaced the
key words with obsessive words, gross of

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frightening eschatological content that have to interrupt
that in order not to affect the chaste

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ears of all those sweet nuns of
charity who are there horrified. Suffice it

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to point out that that good doctor, upon realizing this, grabbed his little

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maletita and left. Other doctors didn' t, they stayed until the end.

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He also did very strange things.
You will remember that one of the

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phenomene classics of demonic possession or demonic
affectation is cenoglosia. The knowledge of hidden

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languages, i e languages, languages
and languages, as you wish it is

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not acceptable for a person to know
because he never studied it. So when

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you begin to sing these praises in
French, changing words into obsessive words,

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everyone thinks oh if they cenoglosia is
demonic. However, one of the doctors

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intelligently points out that the young woman
had been to a college of French nuns.

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Therefore, he mastered French well and
clearly, having been in hospital of

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nuns, College of nuns, Hospice
of nuns, School of I do not

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know what, always around the church. It was not strange that when they

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sang in Latin, he also knew
Latin. Finally, the Mass in one

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thousand eight hundred and fifty- seven
was said in Latin and it was common

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for your people to have Latin notions. One of the doctors starts talking to

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him in French. The answer,
however, is in Spanish. That nasty,

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ugly voice. He answers questions in
French in Spanish, but assures that

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he understands everything. Another of the
doctors, Dr Amstrong, asks him in

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English, answers in Spanish, but
he answers quite clearly seems to speak English

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very well. Yet there is doubt. Perhaps he could have had contact with

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someone of English origin and know something
about that language. At the end of

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the day I wasn' t talking
about it. It only answered and perhaps

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was responding to sensible questions. It
wasn' t a definite test. When

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they start doing the prayers again,
that completely breaks down. It' s

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crazy. The young woman, of
normal appearance, neither very robust nor very

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fragile, begins to whip herself against
all the furniture. The doctor who'

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s there is alarmed and asks to
be stopped so that she doesn' t

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kill herself. Such are the blows
to the head that would easily fracture someone

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' s skull. But three seminarians
who have come to help do not manage

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to contain it and suddenly falls to
the floor. The doctor orders you to

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turn it around and place it on
the mattress It has fallen flat, that

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is, face down and is with
arms in an unusual position, in a

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rare form. The seminarians come and
try to lift it up, but they

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cannot try to turn it around in
any way, pulling it to the point

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where one of the nuns of charity
cries out for God that they break his

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arms, but fail to move it. Yeah, you can raise your arm,

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but she doesn' t take off
the floor. It' s a

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form of sansonism, possession of gravity. The person sticks to the ground.

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Three more men are coming, six
guys are trying to get her off the

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ground and they can' t take
a woman who can' t weigh more

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than 55 pounds. They do not
manage to lift it until finally the priest

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asks another of the priests to order
it to rise in the name of Christ.

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In doing so, as soon as
those words are spoken in the name

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of Christ, I command you to
stand up, they can lift her up

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and take her to bed as if
nothing had happened. But the attack continues.

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When the doctor checks, there are
no injuries, but you can see

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something. Eyes at all times have
been backwards, yes as if it were

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a violent epileptic attack backwards. The
eyelids have a agitation and not smooth move

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quickly. When he gets his eyes
down a little bit, he realizes that

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the pupils are totally dilated. There
is no reaction, even with light or

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without light. There' s no
reaction. That' s a picture of

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a disease. Until someone brings with
him a lignos cruxis, that is,

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a wooden relic, presumably of the
Cross of Christ, but in reality it

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is simply a blessed relic. The
young woman has her eyes completely closed,

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she sees nothing, she' s
turning the other way. When they discreetly

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put that little piece of wood under
the pillow, legionous cruxis, and then

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the young woman reacts as if they
had put fire on her head. They

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do the same with other tests,
such as discreetly placing a small silver crucifix

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below it while no one sees it, and the reaction is the same very

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violent. However, as soon as
the priest kneels down and begins to read

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the Gospel of St John, the
young woman goes into relaxation and returns to

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her light position and reacts politely and
responds clearly and simply to the doctors'

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questions. And, while ashamed because
some questions are intimate in nature, she

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answers all of them, at least
three of the doctors ask the friars and

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the nuns to come out of there
so that they can hear her without impudience

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and the opinion is that she finds
nothing. One of the doctors who came

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here wants to know where that awful
noise comes from. The noise is remembered

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by the one heard in the abdomen
and that there seems to be an animal

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moving inside like in water, as
if there were a lot of water there

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and you hear that noise and you
find nothing. But she doesn' t

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remember. You don' t know
what happened. You don' t know

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why this happens to all the doctors
who arrive. Some just grab their suitcase

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and leave, others stay to finish
that. They are asked to draft a

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report. There are things that go
further. However, the priest himself realizes

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that there are things that cannot explain
knowledge of hidden things. Of course,

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the fact, for example, of
placing drops of holy water in the glass

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that you are going to drink and
throwing it away and, instead, giving

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it a normal glass and not doing
anything. It draws his attention because there

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was no way to know which of
the four glasses they had taken had the

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drops of holy water and which did
not. But that' s not all.

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When he talked to Archbishop Rafael Valentin, Valdivieso. He has considered the

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authorization of an exorcism, but requires
the doctors' reports. One thousand eight

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hundred and fifty- seven. There
begins to be a rational thought behind everything,

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but how to rationally explain that one
good day, one of the priests,

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an excellent connoisseur of Greek, begins
to read a text in Greek and

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the young woman who was in one
of these violent attacks quickly calms down and

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feels what she was reading in Greek, the Gospel of St John in the

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Greek version. However, when in
the next episode, the same priest with

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the same intonation, in the same
position as Rodillas, begins to read the

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Gospel of St Luke, the answer
is appalling. Not only does he not

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calm down, but he screams,
kicks and assaults. There was no way

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he could speak Greek or understand it, because none of the rites were in

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Greek and the Gospel is extensive and
yet he knew it knowledge of hidden things

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Cenoglosia also, of course, that
time all these people came because the rumor

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spread and people came like flies in
the hospice itself. They tried to control

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him by putting guards on the doors, but this didn' t help,

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because people got in and suddenly there
were fifty or sixty people in the room

431
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there asking stupid questions and suddenly the
thing that was inside Carmen' s body

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turned around said you know perfectly well
that she died yesterday because. You ask

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it and I don' t know
what and you' re the one who

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' s going to die tomorrow.
So I don' t know why you

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' re here and it was fulfilled
and what I was saying was real more

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knowledge of hidden things and strength.
There were several sansonism signs in Oglosia,

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knowledge of hidden things, of course, others were missing, For example,

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it did not avoid him, but
it stuck to the ground, which is

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00:38:54.440 --> 00:38:58.440
a similar sign and there was no
way to move it. He didn'

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t throw things up. But if
I heard this shocking noise that was within

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a few days they pass in what
more doctors are arriving. Some send a

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missive where they say we can'
t know what' s going on,

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but at least two of them are
incredibly thorough and thorough in the degree of

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analyzing it from the point of view
of their own sciences. One of them

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determines that it is a phenomenon that
cannot be explained by science and makes the

446
00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:36.079
comparison between the different tables that are
presented. When a person exhibits a female

447
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:42.440
hysteria, whether ovarian or brain,
and compares it and goes on to analyze

448
00:39:43.440 --> 00:39:45.960
it to determine that none of the
pictures he presents are compatible. Another of

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00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:50.360
them considers that not that in any
way, that this is not a spirited

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person and that what they are seeing
is a hysterical convulsive picture in the third

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degree, caused by animal magnetism or
by moral influence in lons, an erotic

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primitive alteration of their ovary generis and
hold that. Obviously, the scientific explanation

453
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was far from convincing. Sure.
They didn' t have an EEG,

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they didn' t have an MRI, a CT scan, or anything.

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That' s what they had and
that' s what they' re trying

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to explain. But finally, everyone' s opinion is that it was a

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very unusual picture. Carmen Marin was
facing a dramatic situation. Exorcism is authorized

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following the Roman ritual, the ancient
ritual of exorcism, had been with it

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00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:44.519
for six days. The priest,
studying every minute detail, had come to

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ask the biographical data, the background
of where it came from, what it

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00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:53.880
was like. Exorcism was performed in
the old way. What was said in

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00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:59.559
exorcism was not made public. That
was a form of respect. Whatever was

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00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:02.400
said was kept there. It is
not known, even with precision, how

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00:41:02.519 --> 00:41:06.960
long the exorcism lasted, how many
sessions were how it was. The only

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00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:09.559
thing that is said is that at
the last moment, that Presence, which

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presented itself as a demon, assured
that it was leaving, but would return

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00:41:16.639 --> 00:41:22.960
when the priest asked you to leave
and you will not return. That voice

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00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:24.320
answered yes, I' ll be
back in a year and a half.

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I' ll be back, even
in a different way. It is said

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00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:37.000
that after that departure, Carmen Marin
returned to normal and attentive. At the

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end of time, the priest and
the other members of the Church were close.

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You don' t know exactly what
happened to her. Carmen Marín'

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s memory is lost in time.
It is clear that she was released and

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00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:57.119
that if she had fallen, surely
the Church would have been very present.

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00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:04.719
Presbyter Don José Raimundo had two deaths
starting the 20th century, a thousand nine

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00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:08.760
hundred and three thousand nine hundred and
four, so he would have had a

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chance to continue to see the case, but it was not repeated. Carmen

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00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:17.480
Marín is said or believed to have
led a normal life. Some say that,

479
00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:22.719
after those terrible events, he chose
to enter an order of nuns,

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00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:27.239
where he remained until the day of
his death. Other versions say that after

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being released, he returned to normal
life, married and led an ordinary life

482
00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:39.119
until his death shortly before the turn
of the century. Hard to know exactly.

483
00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:44.360
The historical memory that is preserved of
the case is thanks to a series

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of writings that Raimundo himself wrote to
the archbishop, in which he informed him

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00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:55.480
of the details and annexed all the
medical reports. It is a unique document,

486
00:42:57.000 --> 00:43:04.000
a document of impressive value. It
is considered that it is the first

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00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:08.840
authoritative and documented exorcism of the Catholic
Church in Chile and most likely one of

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00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:15.679
the first cases in which there was
a full confrontation of a case of paranormal

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00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:21.119
appearance with the science of that then
clear was a science that held that the

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00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:25.920
mental problems of many people of the
female sex derived from a hysterical problem,

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00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:29.840
which today has become clear that it
is not so, or at least,

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00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:35.360
there are theories that explain it much
more reasonably, if you take into account

493
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:39.159
that some of the medical treatments for
this female hysteria were baths with freezing water,

494
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:47.000
washed of the safe hands by doctors. Well, just think of the

495
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:51.880
treatment you had been given in a
snow cap. That' s not giving

496
00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:55.039
an idea that science was still in
diapers. However, it has been one

497
00:43:55.079 --> 00:44:01.840
of the first cases where there is
an intention to rationalize and critically study a

498
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:09.039
paranormal phenomenon. Carmen Marina' s
case has recently been taken to television with

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00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:15.639
a television series in those regions that
have apparently had some success. But it

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00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:19.280
' s a case that goes beyond
that. It meets many of the standards

501
00:44:19.360 --> 00:44:23.960
demanded by the ancient canon of the
Catholic Church for exorcism, although not all,

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00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:42.519
it does comply with the majority and
was a frightening case. Well,

503
00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:47.039
now what do you think if we
send some greetings and congratulations. First of

504
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:52.079
all, we want to send a
very cordial greeting to Justine and Stephen.

505
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:58.480
They are sons of Erika, Ribas
for reasons of distance, of transfers.

506
00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:00.760
They' re not together. They
are in Ecuador and Panama. The mother

507
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:06.599
misses them very much and wishes to
send them this warm, fraternal, loving,

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00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:10.119
friendly hug that they feel is near
hopefully and soon they can see.

509
00:45:12.119 --> 00:45:17.559
I also have a special congratulations for
Veronic Cullon. She is a teacher of

510
00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:22.119
English and French in Querétaro Mexico and
has asked us to congratulate her and Rodrigo,

511
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:28.280
who also listens to us. We
send you both a big hug Thank

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00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:34.920
you for being with us. I
also want to send a congratulations to Giram

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00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:38.320
Fuentes Varela in Mexico City. He
will be years old soon, but we

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00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:43.800
want to get ahead of ourselves and
send this loving hug to Hiram Thank you

515
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:46.559
for being friends with this channel and
always accompany us. And of course we

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00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:52.239
want to send a huge congratulations to
Carla Hernández, who has recently celebrated,

517
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:55.119
to the engineer Juan David Sánchez,
who is in Cuawilla, in the north

518
00:45:55.199 --> 00:46:00.800
of Mexico, Jorge Contreras, who
is in Durango, a friend of the

519
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:06.159
channel, Cecilia Fe, who is
in Uruguay, a beautiful place, IgA

520
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:10.000
susana that always accompanies us, even
if he does not participate in the chat

521
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:14.800
wilmer Herza, which is also very
attentive to us and has recently turned out

522
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:17.239
to bea Lagares. We remember her
a lot. See we always remember you,

523
00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:23.360
Alicia Pérez Oriano, who is celebrating
years. Mary Rodríguez Prado, she

524
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:30.280
is in Seville, Spain, and
celebrates the day of kings I wish and

525
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:35.440
kings bring her many beautiful gifts.
Angie Maldonado, who also celebrates the Day

526
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:38.239
of the Kings I wish and in
addition to a thread of kings, bring

527
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:43.760
you very nice things. Charlie,
who is a chirophysicist and energetic therapist and

528
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:49.079
always accompanies us, and he meets
just Isa g on the 4th of January,

529
00:46:49.559 --> 00:46:52.079
and Liana Morfin, who has also
just turned years old and gives us

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00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:55.239
great pleasure to know that we are
all with each other. And clear to

531
00:46:55.360 --> 00:47:00.480
Silvana Montenegro, who greets her daughter
Barbara and her niece Silvana. They have

532
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:07.679
a very peculiar characteristic. They were
all born on the same day in January

533
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:14.679
and all three were born at very
close times, so they share something more

534
00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:15.119
than the family bond. There'
s something, there' s a union,

535
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:19.480
there' s something that goes further. All three have a special sensitivity.

536
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:22.920
So there goes the hug for the
three of us at once and clearly

537
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:25.920
why not congratulate Jorge Aguilar, who
is also a follower of the Canal and

538
00:47:27.000 --> 00:47:30.360
who is always with us. Thank
you all so much for that pleasant and

539
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:37.719
clear company. We want to thank
Ricardo Montelongo, who is always looking out

540
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:42.400
for us and supporting the Canal,
Jonathan Rodriguez, who is in Canada and

541
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:45.039
is a little sick and has had
problems coviding in the family. We want

542
00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:50.639
everyone to recover very soon. Thank
you very much for your support, mildered

543
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:55.719
Ramos, mar Tania barus Nelli,
da Robinson, Guadalupe Fuentes, Elizabeth Wise,

544
00:47:57.079 --> 00:48:00.000
who is always watching the channel and
clear Patrick Rosso, Uncle Patrick,

545
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:06.519
who never leaves us alone, Eric
Valle lorin liff Park, Hio Juris Lara,

546
00:48:07.599 --> 00:48:12.679
Francisco Sanardo ting O Baby, who
are also always outstanding. Thank you

547
00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:15.840
very much for your support to the
channel through the donations and well, we

548
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:21.559
also want to be a prompt recovery
to several friends of the channel who are

549
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:25.920
sick, Silvia Mejía Martínez de unnel, who have a health problem, but

550
00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:29.159
we hope that they will come out
very soon. Along with Graciela Soriano,

551
00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:31.599
we also expect them to come out
very soon. We want you to recover,

552
00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:37.199
as you get strong out of this. Jesus of the pig, who

553
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:39.960
had an accident and has a broken
arm and good we accompanied him. It

554
00:48:40.000 --> 00:48:43.480
must be very annoying. Even if
it doesn' t hurt anymore, it

555
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:49.320
must be very annoying. We hope
that it will soon succeed and we have

556
00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:55.079
something else. This way. One
person has asked us to send a message

557
00:48:55.119 --> 00:49:02.360
to someone who has already started the
trip. Princeton Amelie, Princess Amelie,

558
00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:09.840
listened to us, liked to hear
us. Young lady has left, has

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00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:14.639
already begun the journey and we know
that there is something else. We tell

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00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:17.480
the family don' t worry,
we meet again. This isn' t

561
00:49:17.599 --> 00:49:22.920
the only dance we danced. There' s something else, there' s

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00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:27.280
something good. Then there' s
something big and there' ll be these

563
00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:31.760
people and we call her a good
trip. Meli flies calmly. You have

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00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:37.800
everything to be there in peace.
Be great with them, do not let

565
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:44.960
them be present in your prayers.
Now that you are beyond, thank you

566
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:52.559
for the time you allowed us to
accompany you and well some other few greetings

567
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:55.559
after this message. For the Olivares
family who are in Austin, Texas,

568
00:49:57.039 --> 00:50:00.079
Diana Yunga, who is in Ecuador, Gabriel Rodríguez and his mom, Lilia

569
00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:05.440
Mendoza, who always listen to us, for Livery delivery guys in Aragon,

570
00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:09.119
Ecatepec, especially for Luis Mesa see
that they are brave. Eh walking as

571
00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:15.159
a delivery man in today' s
world requires a lot of courage and a

572
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:17.440
lot of courage. Bravo for you, very lucky, very careful. We

573
00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:22.760
wish you all the best. Ingrid
Aguilar and her boyfriend Kilowhisky, who always

574
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:24.760
listen to us, have them very
present. We remember them. A lot

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00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:29.599
of whiskey. Ingrid, thank you. Karina Gutierrez and her mother Rossi,

576
00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:34.280
who are in San Diego, California. Ana Díaz, who also listens to

577
00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:37.440
us, we always have her in
mind, Monica and her husband José Miguel

578
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:43.079
Sánchez, who are in Pachuca,
Hidalgo, Mexico, Arelli and Casas and

579
00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:46.679
Julio, who are eleven years married
and very happy. We love to know.

580
00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:52.039
Joan Vilchis and her daughter and granddaughter
Romina, all listen to us.

581
00:50:52.480 --> 00:50:57.760
A hug to the three Ramón Dávalos
and his wife, who are in Rialto,

582
00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:01.519
California, Alma Ramírez and Nairda Serimar, who are in Tijuana and Ensenada,

583
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:07.679
respectively, in northern Mexico. Osvaldo
Rubén Maciel Omis ninety- two,

584
00:51:08.239 --> 00:51:14.239
Sandra Ruiz and Beth Tottor of the
Facebook community, who are always very active

585
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:16.639
and we are delighted to see when
things go up and so on. That

586
00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:22.039
has a life of its own.
The Luna family is tremendous, especially Nancy,

587
00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:24.920
who is in Las Vegas snowfall,
for Kell En Parz and for Certa

588
00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:32.719
Azteca, her daughter Janet Jiménez and
his wife Lollis Hug everyone. We'

589
00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:37.360
re very happy to be accompanied as
families. We have them very much in

590
00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:40.800
mind. We see messages on Facebook, we receive emails, we see comments

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00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:45.320
on YouTube. It is something that
fills us with taste very good night and

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00:51:45.480 --> 00:52:15.400
rest in peace or you