June 2, 2024

¿Cómo le irá a Colombia en los Juegos Olímpicos de París?

¿Cómo le irá a Colombia en los Juegos Olímpicos de París?
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Estamos cerca de la trigésimo tercera edición de los juegos olímpicos en París. Colombia ha mejorado su participación y medallero con el paso de los años. ¿Por qué si somos potencia en ciclismo no se refleja en las medallas olímpicas?, ¿por qué el patinaje no es un deporte olímpico?

Para este capítulo hablamos con la periodista deportiva de la W, Valentina Peña; con Cecilia (La Chechi) Baena, campeona del mundo en patinaje; con el director de As Colombia, Steven Arce; con Pedro Aguirre, consultor de proyectos del Movimiento Olímpico; con Kathy Orrego, experta en ciclismo y con Hernán Peláez.

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I' m Roberto Pombo. Welcome
to my questions. An average rush program

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sponsored by Kafam, family compensation box. We are close to the thirty-

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third edition of the Paris Olympic Games. Colombia has improved its participation and medalist

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over the years. Why, if
we are power in cycling, it is

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not reflected in Olympic medals. Why
skating is not an Olympic sport. What

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needs to be done to further boost
Colombian sport for this chapter. We spoke

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with U Valentina sports journalist Peña with
Cecilia la Chechi and Baena world champion in

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skating, with the director of as
Colombia, Steven Arce, with Pedro Aguirre,

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project consultant of the Olympic movement,
with Katio Rego, expert in cycling

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and with Hernán Peraez. I am
Roberto Pombo and this is chapter 90 of

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my questions welcome. In the history
of mankind few customs are maintained. It

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' s a story of change,
of progress, of setbacks. Think of

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your family’ s traditions that have
lasted as generations go by. Now think

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of humanity in proportions, not decades, but millennia, that we have radically

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changed and write texts on papyrus and
scrolls, we go on to dictate or

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let artificial intelligence do it. The
customs to cook, make objects, transport

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us, entertain us have changed.
We no longer eat a newly married and

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roasted animal in front of a fire. Now it' s a meal made

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by someone else who took it to
us by a messenger on a motorcycle and

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who we eat in front of a
TV screen. Today a cell phone and

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only a century ago. It took
several days to cross the country through the

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simulated boat train, or it took
weeks to cross the Atlantic Ocean on a

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ship with the risk of shipwreck.
Now it' s a matter of a

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couple of hours on a flight,
arriving from Santa Marta to Bogotá, or

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taking ten hours sleeping and watching a
couple of movies, a flight to Bogotá

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Madrid. To think of what we
call the years before Christ is almost to

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think of another humanity. We read
or see what the species did in the

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time of its customs and they seem
a completely different species from ours. But

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there are many traditions that have persisted
since then, many of them religious and

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in other cases. Unfortunately, like
wars, it also continues. Perhaps we

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no longer sacrifice animals in the name
of God or wars no longer consist of

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armies of thousands of men on horseback
with spears and swords facing body to body.

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But the custom of worshipping gods and
confronting one another remains intact. However,

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there is a third tradition, a
rather old one, that remains to

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this day, and it is that
of the Olympic Games, an event that

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has lasted millennia, that has adjusted
to it times of world wars, pandemics

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and technology. Yes, because although
the version that is about to begin in

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Paris is the thirty- third,
it does not mean that it is actually

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an event with only thirty- three
versions. The origins of the Olympic Games

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are nebulous and it is not known
exactly how they began. It is said

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that it all began as a funeral
ceremony to commemorate the soldiers killed at war.

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This has been a theme in Greek
literature since Homer who narrates in the

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ilyate the struggles between two men,
a race of carts pulled by horses,

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races on foot, competitions to launch
objects such as boars or aim tests with

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bow and arrow. But we are
not going to go over millennia of sports,

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its origins and its changes. Let
us advance to the present day,

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to the thirty- threeth version of
the modern era, of a celebration of

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the capacity of the human body.
Until the day I record this program,

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the Colombian delegation has sixty- eight
seats to participate in the other Olympics that

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are distributed. Thus, the majority
of the quotas are for the female football

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team, which are eighteen. The
cycling there are seven guaranteed quotas, five

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for track, two for track route
and its different categories have six quotas.

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Boxing and BMX have five each four
weight- lifting quotas. Gymnastics has three

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and other sports with one or two
places. In April of this year,

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Herma Ruiz, vice- president of
the Colombian Olympic Committee, spoke with national

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radio and said that she aspired to
forty more quotas. Thirty- eight quotas

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had been reached at that time,
so the Committee expects it to be seventy

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- eight quotas, so we look
forward to the time remaining to meet that

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expectation. According to a contract known
to the time data unit signed between the

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Ministry of Sport and the Colombian Olympic
Committee, the Government planned a goal of

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one hundred and fifteen athletes, which
would indicate that the Committee was far from

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achieving it. Olympic delegations almost Colombia
have increased over the years. We went

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from a single athlete at the Los
Angeles Olympic Games, one thousand nine hundred

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thirty- two to forty- three
athletes in Mexico sixty- eight. The

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number has been increasing for a few
years, in which it was slightly lower

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than the previous, although with a
consistency. At the Beijing Games two thousand

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eight were sixty- seven Colombian athletes
and four years later, in London there

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were one hundred and four. The
first time the number was greater than a

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hundred. In the next version,
the number grew quite a bit again.

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In the Rio Olympics, the number
of athletes from the Colombian delegation reached its

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peak with one hundred and forty-
seven. However, four years ago in

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Tokyo, that number dropped to less
than half seventy- one. Why is

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this drop in the number of athletes
in the delegation compared to four years ago?

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I asked Steve Narci, director of
the Sports Environment as Colombia. Well,

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you can' t just talk about
quality. Or that at this point

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things are getting much more, even
though they are getting bad. The national

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government' s investment in sport has
not had enough filters to get them to

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where they should go. And that
is a longer chapter that surely deserves to

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be expanded later. But beyond that, because of something very basic, and

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that is that we do not have
the classification of several teams that collectively add

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up more classified to the Olympic Games. For example, we don' t

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have the representation of the men'
s football team at the Olympic Games and

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those are at least twenty- three
players. Then we have twenty- three

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less quotas. So that makes for
practical purposes, that we have less classified.

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But, as I say, it' s not just about saying it

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' s not that I look.
There' s the reason why they'

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re doing things wrong. We'
re with less athletes. You don'

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t have to have too, and
be very technical about this, the magnifying

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glass about collective and individual sports.
In the individual we will carry almost the

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same people as in the past Olympic
Games. We must be honest and not

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be carried away by patriotism. We' re not an Olympic medalist country.

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Colombian athletes have won thirty- four
Olympic medals, five of which have been

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gold, thirteen silver and sixteen bronze. This is not ranked fifty- nine,

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far from countries like the United States, which leads the list in an

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absolute way with two thousand six hundred
fifty- five medals, or China,

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which has one thousand ten. Cuba
is the first Latin American country on the

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list to be in 16th place with
two hundred and thirty- five medals.

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Although the country has participated in all
versions of the Olympic Games since one thousand

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nine hundred and thirty- two,
it took him forty years to have an

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athlete on the podium. The first
Colombian to win an Olympic medal has a

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name that doesn' t look like
a Colombian. Helmut Bellingrodwolf Barranquiller, son

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of German emigrants. At the Munich
Olympic Games one thousand nine hundred and seventy

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- two, he opened the way
with a silver medal. At Olympic Tyre.

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Belingrot fired sixty shots, reaching five
hundred sixty- five points out of

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a total of six hundred, equalling
the score of Soviet Lakov Checksniak, who

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won the gold medal. He participated
again in Montreal in a thousand nine hundred

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and seventy- six, but remained
in sixth place. That same year we

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also obtained two other bronze medals in
boxing we had to wait eight years to

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see Colombian medalists again, and it
was at the Los Angeles Olympics in a

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thousand nine hundred and eighty- four, when Bellingrot repeated the feat and took

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the silver medal again. This was
the only one the Committee obtained in that

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version. In seven thousand nine hundred
and eighty- eight, boxer Jorge Julio

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Rocha hung himself the bronze medal.
In Sydney two thousand was found one of

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the historic moments of Colombian sport.
Tapesista caucana mar know Urrutia hung for the

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first time a gold medal for Colombia. This marked a milestone for the country

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and for national sport. O o
o o. It was only in Url

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London, in two thousand twelve that
one leap in the number of medals was

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made, when there were nine,
a gold medal, that of Mariana Pajon

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in BMX, three silver, rigo
in cycling in Triple Route, Ibarwin caterina

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jump and again lifting weights at the
hands of Oscar figueroa and five bronze in

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BMX, judo fight, lifting weights
and then you in Rio de Janeiro were

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eight and in the past and in
touch there were five. According to the

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contract of the Ministry of Sport and
the Colombian Olympic committee that I mentioned earlier,

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it is expected to increase or equal
the five medals of Tokyo two thousand

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twenty. As read in the contract
and according to the classification projection. It

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is expected to obtain seven Olympic medals, being athletic sports, cycling BMX weightlifting

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and fighting the most chosen sports to
add in Olympic medalism. This goal is

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realistic. I transferred the question to
BLEW sports journalist Radio Valentina peña and this

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she told me. I think that
goal of getting at least seven medals is

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achievable. I don' t think
it' s far off, but yes.

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It is very likely that none of
these medals are gold. And this

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is simply due to the fact that
in comparison to past years, as happened

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at the London Olympic Games, at
the Olympic Games in Brazil, Colombia no

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longer has a supremely dominant athlete in
a discipline, as happened at the time,

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with Mariana Pajón in bm X or
Caterina Bargüen in triple jump, what

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I do see are many potential medals
in terms of soon bronze silver. With

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the case of Lorin Arena, making
marches, a possibility Natalia Linares in long

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jump could be a surprise this whale
athlete, who has given a lot of

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what to talk about and who can
be, as we say, the big

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surprise to Colombia those Olympic Games geni
arias and Ingrid Valencia in boxing already know

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what it is to get a medal, So they are also important cards of

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our country and, of course,
let us not forget to lift weights,

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where Colombia always has representatives. We
have Luis Javier Mosquera, who was already

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present with Olympic medal in Tokyo,
we also have GeniaÁlvarez, who has

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done very well in the female branch, more particularly lifting weights fifty- nine

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kilograms. So I do see possibilities
for Martaba medal. Me in cycling or

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that whole vink. There are the
possibilities of the medal, but the gold

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I do not see as clear as
many people and they could see it as

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expected in the estimates of the Ministry
of Sport of the Colombian Olympic Committee.

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Alterophilia, that is, weight lifting, is discipline. What more medals he

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' s given the country. From
cinema and two thousand to Tokyo two thousand

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twenty, the Colombian pesists have hung
nine medals, two gold medals, four

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silver medals and three bronze medals.
Only in the World Heavyweight Cup that took

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place in Pucket, Thailand. Last
April, Colombian pessist Jason López won a

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gold medal with a world record of
a hundred and eighty- two kilos and

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obtained silver in sending two hundred and
ten kilos, reaching a total of three

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hundred and ninety- two kilos.
I assure you of your position in the

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ranking one place for the Olympic Games
in Paris two thousand twenty- four.

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In the Pan American games that took
place between October and November of two thousand

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twenty- three, the Colombian participants
won six medals, three gold and three

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silver. In the Parisians that were
made in Caracas. In February of this

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year, Colombia won the competition with
twenty- five gold medals, ten silver

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medals and seven bronze medals, and
at last year' s World Weights Championship,

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the women' s delegation won the
champ and won two gold medals,

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eight silver medals and three bronze medals, but at the Olympic level the country

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is ranked twenty- two medals,
with Russia being first with eighty- nine

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medals. Of course, we are
the Latin American country with the most medals

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and this sport, but despite the
fact that heterophilia has given the country a

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majority of medals, it is not
even close to the most popular sport.

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Otherwise it happens, for example,
with football, a sport that has amateurs

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in heaps, but that at Olympic
level has not had glories. He has

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participated only in five New Mexico Games
one thousand nine hundred and sixty- eight,

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Munich one thousand nine hundred and seventy- two, Moscow one thousand nine

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hundred and eighty, Barcelona one thousand
nine hundred and eighty- two and Rio

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two thousand and sixteen. It was
in the latter that the Olympic football team

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had its best performance, reaching quarterfinals
and falling to Brazil. In previous years

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it never went beyond the group phase. The women' s selection of this

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sport has participated in two versions of
the London Olympic Games two thousand twelve and

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Rio two thousand sixteen, in which
they failed to pass the group stage.

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This year will be your third participation
and hopefully you can do better. Why,

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being the most popular sport, we' re doing so badly in football

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at the Olympics. I looked for
journalist Hernán Peraez to help me resolve this

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concern and this he told me has
always gone wrong in football in the framework

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of the Olympic Games, where we
went for the first time in a thousand

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nine hundred and sixty- eight,
to the Olympics in Mexico, and it

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goes wrong because we continue to stick
to an ancient principle of just competing,

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not being protagonists and less having ambition
to win a medal. We have had

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some selection of good game, such
as the one of one thousand nine hundred

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ninety- two in the Barcelona Olympics, but really the interest of the leadership

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when talking about its twenty Olympic Games
sub seventeen is to look for a way

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to send footballers abroad. And in
that regard, technicians often give contentillo to

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so many observers, managers, club
presidents. That is the serious problem we

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have perhaps in a more serious time, Colombian football aspires to win, not

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just to compete. On the other
side. There is a sport in which

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we can consider ourselves power, which
have thousands of fans and with which we

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have achieved some medals. And cycling, after football, where they have made

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them, a feminis Da has eighteen
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most representatives of the country, with
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categories, track also known as Kevin
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the cyclist María Luisa Calle hung the
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In the route category, Colombia has
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Rigoberto Urán achieved in London two thousand
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the final meters against the cyclist Kazakh
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participate in this year' s Olympics, something that is in doubt about the

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birth of his son, which would
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first Colombian athlete in history to compete
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from two thousand eight to two thousand
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there is the bm X, a
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it premiered just in Beijing in two
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medals, two gold and one silver
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twelve, river two thousand sixteen river
two thousand twenty, a crack really,

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and although those medals are very important
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comparing them with the tradition and the
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competitions, like the Chinese of Italy, the tour of France the return to

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Spain, seem little. I then
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such good exponents in cycling, the
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in the Olympics. He' ll
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cycling expert and this explained to me
in the route cycling. The Colombian runners

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have stood out in the stage races
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classic type. Those run very differently
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We are more powerful in high mountain
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Olympics are not high mountain races,
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there. Then what is needed is
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In addition, a lot of strategy
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that strategy they need equipment. But
the quotas that each country has for the

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race are given by the ranking of
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full quota to run. We always
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it' s very difficult. For
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Urán and Sergio Enaón were smart and
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a few meters if they did not
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At the Rio Sergio Olympics in Au
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last few kilometers, on a curve
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was following the wheel of Nibal and
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There is a sport that Colombia is
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won all the skating. The national
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champion on eighteen occasions, of which
twelve were consecutive. Attentive to this impressive

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figure, Colombian skaters have won a
total of seven hundred and seventy- three

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medals, three hundred and sixty-
five gold medals, two hundred and thirty

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- four silver medals and one hundred
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one of its main stars is the
expatinadora cartagenera Cecilia a la Chechi and baena

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in his showcase. The Chechi has
six gold and silver medals from the world

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championships from the year two thousand to
two thousand six. Less than two thousand

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five and three gold medals from the
Central American and Caribbean Games. Despite all

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this impressive list of sporting triumphs,
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speed skating is not an Olympic sport. Why good it turns out to include

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a sport in the Olympic Games list
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a long list of other sports federations
along with skating as karate baseball, which

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expect to be included. Iván Vargas, coach of the National Skating Team and

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trainer of wolf Skate, told national
radio that speed skating cannot be included by

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the tough competition and lovic of other
sports. This is what Vargas said to

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be included in skating in the Olympic
program. It has a very high political

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connotation. Not one hundred and five
members of the international Olympic committees who have

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to vote for a sport to be
included in the Olympic programme. And behind

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that vote, because there are a
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that soon the loby All these kinds
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it necessary for it to finally be
admitted to the Olympic Games. This answered

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me Cecilia the cheche and Vaina,
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To the reasons why I consider that
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Games are the following. First,
despite the fact that the five continents are

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already practiced, participation in the world
championships is very low, from about thirty

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- three to thirty- five countries. Secondly, that we do not have

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a great international sponsor, the International
Federation and in world championships there is no

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global television, there is no big
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think that has a lot of weight. Third, the standardization of scenarios and

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careers. Sports scenarios in all countries
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regulation and I think it' s
just a compelling reason. Also, Fourth,

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the Power countries have taken their world
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because there they do have the possibility
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so that has caused those athletes to
migrate and racing skating has been left without

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those figures worldwide. Unfortunately, despite
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events we see in the world championships
winning gold medals more than thirty- three

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gold medals against countries like France Italy, which win two or three in the

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medal box. That shows that Colombia
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is preparing very well, that it
has a great sponsor, that they have

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television, but the other countries,
for those reasons, to migrate their athletes

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and put all their focus on the
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that has made that unfortunately, skating
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those medals, trophies and championships won, being a sportsman in Colombia is not

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easy. It is well known that
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or simply to train, is very
difficult. A recent example is that of

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boxer Jubertgen Martínez, winner of the
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In March, Martínez denounced in a
radio snail program that the Ministry of Sport

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stopped giving him financial support for eight
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Johnny Rentería, also denounced Instagram account
that the Ministry of Sport has not paid

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for their incentives. In addition,
they owe them the Bolivarian, South American,

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Central American and Pan- American medals
of the Olympic cycle. Let'

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s hear a fragment of what he
said. We have a question about what

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is going on with our economic stimulus. It is a very important year where

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the most important fairs in the world
come, where the month of January,

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February March has not generated any of
the payments of many athletes. We haven

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' t communicated with the Ministry and
they don' t have the resources to

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pay us. Something similar denounced the
Olympic disco launch athlete and gold medalist at

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the Central American and Caribbean Games,
Mauricio Ortega, who complained about the Ministry

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' s negligence with the country'
s high- performance athletes. In March

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of this year, athletes such as
Judoka and Olympic medalist Juria Albear, former

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world champion Cecilia Baena, and former
Tour de France rider Victor Hugo Peña,

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addressed a letter to President Petro and
the Ministry of Sport in which they called

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for the creation of a national sports
table and pointed out the lack of effort

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in the sport budget. And if
there is a portfolio that has had problems

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it is from the Ministry and the
sport that in the almost two years of

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President Petro has already had three different
ministers and several scandals. First was the

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departure of a former minister of Olympic
medalist, Mar Isabel Urrutia, whom the

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President himself declared insubstantial due to his
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Then he came to Stripth Rodríguez,
who resigned in February of that year

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because of the scandal over the loss
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of two thousand twenty- seven in
Barranquilla, and in March Luz Cristina López

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was positioned, although it makes sense
that a minister in this portfolio does not

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last long if the work environment is
as tense as President Petro did, who

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considers the creation of that portfolio to
be a mistake. I haven' t

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exactly seen the goodness of doing that. I can' t find him.

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Looks like it' s more of
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s the rule. In sport it
weighs more bricks than education. That makes

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a sense. The more bricks the
more corruption is contracted. There and that

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constant change of sports ministers has caused
the processes with federations and athletes to be

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interrupted. The former president of the
Colombian Olympic Committee, Baltasar Medina, told

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the Journal the following time to Bro
Comillas. Every seven months a minister is

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not a guarantee that everything is well
separated. Processes are changed, everything is

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rebooted almost from scratch. That for
the national plan of sport subtracts does not

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add Comillas closure. And while President
Petru says that more brick means more corruption,

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the country' s sports arenas are
precarious. This was especially seen in

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last year' s national games,
which took place on the Cafetero axis,

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when, according to a chronicle from
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athletes of their quash who opened the
day arrived in an unfinished building with still

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armed scaffolding and polyshadow on the outside, with construction materials abandoned here and there

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and tools crammed into the rest area. Many of the common spaces inside the

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building were sealed with plastic yellow ribbons
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and according to the prosecutor' s
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in Pereira, the Colosseum Major and
the skate track of Manizales, along with

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the water complex of Armenia and other
scenarios, failed to be completed in time.

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In addition, some of them experienced
delays of almost eighty percent in the

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execution of the works. I see
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help but wonder what many have already
wondered, what needs to be done to

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further boost Colombian sport? This was
told by Pedro Aguirre, the executive director

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of Legas and Sports and project consultant
for the Olympic Movement. It is a

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reality that there is much to improve
sports processes. The flaws are given special

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for bureaucratic matters that sometimes delay support
for athletes, coaches and in generating the

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institutions that lead the sport in the
country. To go is not the biggest

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challenge. Once an athlete begins to
give results, he enters the support programs

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of both the nation and his department
and is almost nothing short of them.

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They have the financial support of trainers, physio psychologists who are constantly accompanying them

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around the world in their preparation for
the great competitions. Of course, with

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failures of improvement opportunities with occasional delays
and discomforts, but in general, on

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the continent we are a country that
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The challenges are especially in supporting talent, in strengthening prospects processes, in

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their sports projects, accompanying athletes'
families and investing in the regions, in

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improving infrastructure and modernizing sports equipment,
in giving them more national and international skills

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for young people and working hard in
their mentality. This requires consolidating the system

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of sport at the base, clubs, training schools and leagues, training and

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bringing knowledge in sports where we lack
much, because it is working in conjunction

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with the structure of education, that
is, schools and universities that are generally

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not flexible with sport, are long- term bets and it is proven that

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they have resulted. This must come
with public support and infatuating the private sector

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with a solid program, with visibility
and fascinating stories. It is a combination

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of factors for a ruse to reach
a competition like an Olympic Games in the

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best way. But the most important
is that it has been part of a

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long- term process, that has
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I have the confidence that Colombia will
do well in Paris two thousand twenty

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- four, as well as the
great results we had in London two thousand

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twelve, in Rio two thousand sixteen
and Tokyo two thousand twenty. Being a

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high- performance athlete in Colombia is
a double effort. First, because it

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takes discipline, on time and dedication
to achieve, compete and win everything they

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earn on behalf of the whole country. But, moreover, it seems that

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they must achieve all this without guarantees, without inappropriate conditions, with a short

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professional life that asks them to stay
young and in an ungrateful manner, despite

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medals, trophies and championships. That
is why all the achievements of our athletes

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are worth twice as much, although
they should not have to be. I

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' m Roberto Pombo. This was
chapter 90 of my questions. See you

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in the next chapter from now on. This chapter of my questions is available

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