Miedo en Radiital con Roberto Morales y Zaly Gutierrez año 2010

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Good night. We' re on
your show, on a more scary radio

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show like I' m Julio Flores
Salí Gutierrez, very good night to all

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of you welcome. Thank you for
tuning us in again today, the day

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must come out. Twenty- six, twenty- six of May, Yes,

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yes, six of May, twenty- six of May of two thousand

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ninety is ten at night, with
eight minutes to see that we are totally

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live. We have a program,
a cool program like the weather, so

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cool, rich, sarroson. We
have a luxury guest, a surprise guest.

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Since last week we were commenting on
his appearances near the market Juarez,

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around it, accusing girls from public
high schools of the TECH Cease of Zcati,

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Cebetis, etcetera. He with alleb
all those schools. Why doesn'

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t he introduce himself and tell us
a little bit about him. No hello

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good night, who are you,
what' s your name, what'

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s up the surprise guest? Am
I the surprise guest? Where were you

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born? Invited to be born with
the silver moon, with the soul of

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a pirate, a true tester,
where you were born a poem of him

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like this in Veracruz. I am
from Tuxco Veracruz, the port of the

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sunset bulls was born there was a
March four of a thousand nine hundred and

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seventy- three. It' s
four o' clock in the afternoon.

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Name me Roberto and so, thank
you for the invitation. Welcome Roberto Morales,

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because, as we are commenting on
last week, you have very good

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stories for us. About the things
that happen in Veracruz, what happened to

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you, things that happened to your
family? Why tell us a little bit

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about it or be included in the
stories you have, what happens in your

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family or what kind of stories are
passed on to You? Well, they

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' re cases where you can say
I' ve been in one of them.

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I was present in another, I
was close in the room and in

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another we were also there nearby.
Two of these stories refer, therefore,

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to what has become the so-
called goblins. Yes, and the other

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story, because it is something that
we cannot explain. We don' t

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know what it could have been,
but that happened to my grandma. You

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mentioned that you live in Bueno You' re from Tuxpan, Veracruz. In

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Veracruz, how far is the esoteric
town or city yama Catemaco. Hence if

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this layman is about twelve of twelve
fifteen hours. In fact, I actually

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went to Catemaco last year. Very
nice city, very nice villages and you

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have the chance to go this.
I say meet Mexico. It' s

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a really nice town. He lives
in sponsored Mexico. This is a very

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father town. You arrive and it' s a lagoon and I say there

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are everywhere they give you so little
cards of people who make, who make

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want by hand, who do jobs
and that kind of thing. Well,

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no, Robert, a week ago, I don' t know if you

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' ve been listening to us,
but the leprechaun thing was very recurring about

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two weeks ago. I don'
t know, say we have that big

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stuff? What about these goblins?
Or what story has we got near the

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big ones? What happened to you? Robert' s had a lot of

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fun for him, and I do
look at the first story. This happened

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to one cousin, she' s
a political cousin, a cousin' s

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wife. Yes, she was robust, so to speak, and suddenly she

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started. He' s already started
to lose a lot of weight, crawling

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a lot, leaving a lot.
They didn' t go to it wasn

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' t fatache. They went to
the doctor to see what, because this

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one because she felt she felt very
weak and we are talking about losing weights

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from one day to another months years, as they were days, that is,

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they were weeks, can say two
weeks, and yes, she lost

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weight considerably about twenty kilos and felt
very weak. So, they went to

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the doctor and they did it,
they did the studies to see if anything

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happened to him, if they asked
him, obviously what he was eating,

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if he had striction, studies of
anemia and no, all that went well.

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So, like the town or the
city I am is in a small

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city, because there you get used
to still visiting the famous healers. Yeah,

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same thing from the same area as
tempted brutes. Well, more than

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anything, I' m not saying
it' s because I' m close

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to catemaco, but because of the
same culture. Yes, yes, it

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is recurrent that people go to cures
there, for example, there, in

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many families they still get used to
what they call the cure of fright that

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if you were scared, you,
cover you, barran te, do to

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you everything or what we orno mind
is done here with an egg, not

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exactly egg, with water, well, there, there they sweep you.

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The egg gives you the eggs.
So, well, that' s it,

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okay. If this one gets you
noticed, they squeeze your head,

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your forehead, they start taunting you. I mean, it' s a

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stream of things that happen to you. Then this cousin took her with a

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healer and told her that a goblin
was in love with her, that'

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s why she was so needed,
because in that case knowing where the goblin

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was, where she was hiding to
be able to help her and then,

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in this case, to be able
to cure her. How long ago this

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was, Roberto, we' re
talking about already. He' s got

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time. It was before I came
here that he' s about fifteen years

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or so. Yes, so what
that group recommended to her recommended to her

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husband, my cousin, was to
be taken to the serenade, so we

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took her serenade. It was people, church choir people, hence paused to

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take cream to your cousin, exactly
my cousin' s wife, so we

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took her serenade. And when we
were there, he was a little church

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believer. Besides the premiums, the
husband of this cousin I was in can

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tell where I was in love with
her. Me and other neighboring people out

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there were about fifteen people. I
also went Roberto, Yes, I also

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went there then, when we started
to sing, yes, suddenly one fell

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near us, a stone fell.
Then we turn to see, because the

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first thing you think is, maybe
it' s a neighbor who' s

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not happy because he' s wearing
serenade. We' re talking about it

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wasn' t too late. It
was about ten o' clock at night,

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and we started to disperse to see
if there was anyone trying to bother.

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But we didn' t see anything
and suddenly they kept singing and suddenly

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again there was another stone and already
there it was seen that the stone was

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coming or one of the neighbors saw
that the stone came from a tree.

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Yes, and so far we all
stared at the tree and kept singing and

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suddenly another stone, but this stone
already hit the one who was singing,

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the one who was singing. So, we started seeing the healer and the

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healer I say keep singing. Is
the goblin in the tree? Were there

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people who were that other than the
tree? There were people who went out

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to look at the tree, but
there was nothing in the tree, that

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is, they started to sing and
the stones that started to fall or the

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stones started to be thrown away.
Then the healer told my cousin, the

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dunde is in the tree and thinks
because all the stones went to the singer.

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Yes, then, and the goblin
thinks that the one in love is

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the one singing. So, we
kept singing and suddenly another stone, but

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that one already did, already hit
the one who was singing was singing and

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in fact, I upset it and
they had it that they had it then

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yes, they were another were stones
that you could win with a fist.

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Yeah, yeah, that wasn'
t little pebbles. In fact, it

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' s not the first time I' ve heard that the goblins had such

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stones in the village of San Luis
too, because yes, a greeting to

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all the people over there in the
huasteca this one tells me that in the

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main square there are also trees and
suddenly, if they throw stones there and

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I say they are not ones.
The kids out there don' t say

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they' re goblins and they'
ve always said the same thing, they

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always defend themselves like with stones.
No yes, I mean, and so

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it' s the best you hear
it right now and you say, I

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mean, it doesn' t surprise
you, but already being there and seeing

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what it means, you don'
t see anyone who' s doing it

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and it says where they' re
asking for the stone? And then I

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say if it surprises you and in
a way. You' re scared already

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from there the healer came out already
when he realized that the goblin was there

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already drew a bottle with water,
with holy water and with some branches.

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He emptied it like in a bucket. He began to make a prayer and

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put the branches in the bowl and
began to spray my cousin, whom the

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leprechaun was in love with. Yeah, he started spraying it and then he

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started spraying and also saying prayers to
the tree. When he started spraying it

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and started saying it to the tree, they heard screams as a child.

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You heard that, yeah, all
that stuff there we heard. I mean,

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if you win you scream like a
kid when you' re hitting him?

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Yeah, and I mean, you
stay, that' s what surprises

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you. Yeah, actually, right
now is what you' re telling me

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already. I' m imagining it. And more because I tell you because

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you see, you don' t
see anything or you, that is,

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you want many times the morbid makes
you want to see what it is,

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what it is. And more because
there are more people and in a certain

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way you can feel protected until then
and that nothing will happen, because there

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are many. Of course, another
time, if it' s you alone,

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because the first thing you do is
you go or it' s right,

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you forget that there can be there, then it' s cured you,

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cured you and everything. In the
end, my cousin chose to cut

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the tree. Yeah, the tree
was cut because the quad told him that

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' s where he was hiding the
goblin. Yeah, and then they did

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the house and it all looks like
that kind of thing. A lot of

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you don' t believe it It
doesn' t happen. But c after

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that was given, two or three
weeks and my cousin was already, i

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e, my cousin' s wife
was normal, i e, as if

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nothing was over, not exactly,
i e, she came back to her

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weight, i e, she started
taking on normal bread weights. Yes,

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with the energies again, because I
say before, I didn' t want

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to do anything at all, nothing
else, I wanted to be laid down

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because I had no energy. Well, thank you very much. That'

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s why history. Let' s
send some greetings to the people who are

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in the chat gasper ilin the Kakka
is also online more gro bike fok,

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a greeting Fernando Garza Martínez, who
is listening to us. Also a very

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special greeting and so for all the
people who are listening to us goals of

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chart Please, and then add to
us also what the Facebook group is.

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They' re afraid to radio when
I' m talking on Facebook. One

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in that group. We' re
going to have updates, information about the

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program, and let' s go
with today' s first song. This

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song, because it is from a
band that has just lost a member in

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recent days. It is nothing more
or less than the Anthem, who lost

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his bassist and because I really say
a very unfortunate loss, because the band

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is really very good. Let'
s go with this song from The Anthem.

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Let' s check it' s
called wa Wai Chiblead the most famous.

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With this song you are listening to
fear in reality. We still do,

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we come back here in fear on
the radio. Such thanks to all

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who continue to listen to us,
to those who are joining us. A

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greeting to Jimmy Ceballos, who has
just joined Radital' s chat right now,

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a greeting to José Rodríguez, Rodríguez, who is listening to us as

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well as to our dear guest now. But Roldo Pérez, who is here

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in the studio with us, you
like good tamarind water, fresh tamarind water,

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yes, very rich, the huia
tamarind today hears the story that Robert

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told us a moment ago. Really, if I say it, he lived

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it in his own flesh. Now
we' re gonna call him She'

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s hot She' s hot.
That' s where I heard one that

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' s even more interesting, more
peaks, Robert, from the kid the

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big boys kidnapped. Please, Robert
have some familiarity with the leprechauns, or

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why so much Robert leprechaun, for
do not notice, Notice that this one

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is not, for they say that
the leprechauns are like naughty children. Then

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I say I was never so naughty. And this same story you' re

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going to tell us about the boy
also happened in Veracruz. It happened there,

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too. This there, I mean, it' s the cradle,

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it' s the cradle of the
chamucos, the devils of goblin witches.

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See if there' s a lot
of that, a lot of that.

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It' s not much of that
over there. The other story was when

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my sister turned 15. There,
then, the year 1, 500 B

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C, no, not so much
a thousand five hundred twenty- one,

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but now after Christ, do not
notice that there, at the feasts of

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fifteen years, unlike here, that
is, it is customary to make a

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feast as if it were one as
if it were an ode, yes,

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that is, you invite families.
I understand that here, in the North,

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it is also done more or less, not in other words. It

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' s the same here, I
don' t mean, but, well,

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it' s my turn here.
Or most of the parties I'

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ve heard are just for the quinceañera' s friends. No. In fact,

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my fifteen years were for my family. No. He doesn' t

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want to clarify anything. I mean
here in Monterrey. I say I went

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a few fifteen years here and the
truth went to the family. I mean,

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they were divided, but there were
families and friends, you' d

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say maybe a ranch like that.
Here it may be I say or if

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we continue with the story, said
has already withdrawn you. That' s

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good. Then the party was at
an aunt' s house on the set

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in my aunt' s yard.
My aunt lives on account that there'

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s this. It was in Tuxpon, right, in Tuxpan Yes, well,

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the place where I am, or
the colony can be said to be

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called already North Barra, is stuck, what is the river, yes and

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the beach. Then my aunt,
the courtyard of the house issued, so

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to speak, the back yard was
how she said this was, i e,

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there was the courtyard and there was
the river flowing into the sea.

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No. Then there were still many
children, many cousins and there was a

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cousin who suddenly was gone, i
e, my little cousin was gone.

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He disappeared from the ship, disappeared
out of nowhere. So it' s

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obvious that they' re going to
look for him and, as I tell

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you, he' s a colony, so to speak, because we went

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there football courts, basketball courts.
We went looking for him out there,

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down the courts, we couldn'
t find him. We went that way

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The houses are there. They'
re all close We' re at the

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homes of all the relatives and he
wasn' t there. And all of

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a sudden, my uncle got in
his car along with his older brother and

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other cousins and another uncle did,
my dad' s brother. The guy

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was uncle, the boy' s
dad, he' s my dad'

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s cousin and they started, in
the colony looking for them. When you

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realize that to go we are coming
to the beach to go to Tuxpan,

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what is the center of Tuxpan,
realize that the boulevard is coming, says

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there is everything that is being lit
and suddenly there is a curve, yes,

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and in that part of the curve
there is no lighting. And the

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curve is over and it' s
starting over again. Then, my uncle

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was in the truck with these other
people and suddenly there on the corner,

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because come to the boy. Yeah, come to the kid. They mean

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like they saw it, like they
were pulling it, like it was this

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way, like the kid wasn'
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but in turn someone was actuating like
they were pulling it, okay,

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into the weed exactly does the curve
and it' s, well, it

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' s like, there, it' s wrong there. Then my uncle

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started to squeal the kid turned around
and then, like I say, they

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didn' t hear it, but
like I was yelling at them, I

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mean, they weren' t pulling
exactly that speeded up. Yeah, in

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that, all of a sudden,
the kid disappeared from there because you realize

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the weed and then it' s
like I don' t know, like,

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two meters down. And there is
all that cometh, being the mountain.

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Suddenly he arrived there where and where
they stopped seeing the child. My

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uncle stopped and they all got off
and when they got off they walked about

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five or six meters and the boy
was there he was down and he was

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crying. Yeah, so my uncle
asked her what where, why she was

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there that I touched had happened.
No yes, then my cousin told him

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that, I mean, my cousin
was like five years old. Yeah,

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she told him she was playing with
some kids and all of a sudden,

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the kids told her they were going
to play somewhere else and she wouldn'

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t. Then they pulled him to, like who says, play with them

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at the door to play with them. Yeah, and we' re talking

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about these kids being the leprechauns.
Yeah, exactly, well, that'

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s what they deduce, not that
they were goblins. Yes, then,

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when they were having told him good
where the children went, if they were

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pulling me here, Ahorita, they
would come pulling me and if I didn

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' t want to and they would
pull me and they would go in and

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they ran out there, how was
another cousin when they found him by the

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arms, had his arms nailed and
had his neck swirled like this. And

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then the translation face is scratched,
well, scratches, good? These great

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ones, unlike those we have talked
about, are nothing friendly more friendly and

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are, for I say goblins,
so to speak, bad. I had

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not heard that well, I say
the others threw stones and all that was

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not so much aggression as to raddle
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No yes, I say here that
it was because of the way my

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cousin had with them and I say
my uncle along with the other people there

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got in, there the weeds in
the bush trying to find something, try

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to see something, and they didn' t see anything. Your cousin still

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lives, yes, received or had
to go to some psychologist or something,

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because I think that after at least
me, if something like that had happened

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to me, I wouldn' t
have stayed. Just like I' m

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saying, not the truth. I
don' t know if he was with

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a psychologist, but what I do
remember is that for a long time they

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were leading him to cures. They
call him a lot to talk to a

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father. Her name is Marta now. Not your cousin, because it was

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a very good story. Robert that
you bring us today and then let'

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s go one more little musical door. Not this one. This song is

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from the band Nighninge Nells. This
song is called Only. Before we go

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to the music court, we send
a greeting to the people who have just

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joined the chat a greeting to Lalo
the boy x Worfords who sent him.

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Greetings to Arnold Garnorla, thank you
very much. Da says you' re

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a lot off on dal. Of
course I do, so when you want

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to go to work again, hand
me the phone. I' ll send

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you some tamales. A greeting to
Jorge Chapa, who is warning us,

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Ahorita for the chat that we are
getting married in twenty- four days.

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Many congratulations, Jorge, I hope
you' ll invite me to your wedding.

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Greetings also for the jimy Cebillos,
who is still here with us online.

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He sent us a story of when
hell claims your soul, it'

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s a little bit half long.
But, right now, Jimmy, if

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you can just give us a little
bit of a summing up to air.

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Also a greeting to Ilim, who
says he loves slaps who loves him with

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crazy passion, Forgive me, Julio, forgive us and for Chaparra, to

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give it already mentioned and also for
Gordolo. Let' s go with this

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song. This is a parlo book
we miss you all the time, because

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we are still here in his program
Fear on radio such a lot of thanks

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to all those who are listening to
the program seriously. We thank you too

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much for your support, your support, too much and especially our guest who

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is here with us revealing himself,
Roberto Morales, Thank you very much for

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seeing you do the act of presence
and today, and because we comment that

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you have more history, Robert,
we want to hear a little more of

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the lines that you have. We
know that Veracruz is an area where,

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because a lot of extravagant things happen, not and what it has to do

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with this, with this paranormal phenomenon. Yes, the truth is that if

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I invited you to my house and
to talk to several people in my family

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or invite them to my house and
talk to several people in my family.

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You' d have to believe that
they have a lot more stories than they

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could tell you, and maybe even
Probert is stronger. I' m sorry,

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I' m interrupting you, but
I' m saying it' s

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the same thing, not Robert,
I am, Güey. I insist that

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it is because of the area in
which they are, that is, the

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area of Veracruz, and all that
you have ever visited Catemaco. You'

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ve been made a cute buron.
Yeah, if I get a stroke of

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eggs or branches or like you said
earlier. Yes, of course, in

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my family it was classic that every
two or three months I was scared to

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death because they said that if I
scared you and they didn' t cure

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you, you would go to your
stomach and you could get sick or you

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could die You met cases of dry
people, that is, close families,

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close friends, to whom it happened. This, for it is more than

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anything an urban legend that that of
what you have just mentioned, of the

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horror that has happened to them,
of the fact that they did not cure

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them with fright and have actually or
have not gone through an illness or an

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already greater misfortune. Don' t
notice that I never met people like that

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and, in fact, me when
they told me they were going to cure

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me with fright, it was because
for me it was like that woe to

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me because they were not had,
you couldn' t go out all day,

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you couldn' t step on the
floor, I mean, you couldn

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' t do anything. You had
to lie down all day and they were,

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I mean, they were curling when
it was hot, because you had

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to sweat a lot. Then it
was lying on the bed covered with blankets

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and what are the symptoms of fright, that is, what has to happen

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to me I decide there you know
what I should cure you with fright if

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you bring the chamuco. Uh,
well, I mean, it was because

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I mean, it was always two
or three months' insurance, that is,

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if you didn' t want to
eat something or if you didn'

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t want to eat, or if
you were bringing laziness or that kind of

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thing. My granny would say no, we' re probably scared or you

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were scared. That' s what
ended. Yes, and it was that

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they took you to the lady who
healed and there they took care of you.

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I mean, they' d make
you clean and say no if he

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' s scared to death and they' d take you away, but they

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' d cure you at home.
Yes, that is, space was usually

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that way, for example, my
brother was taken and they were already going

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to remember it as a shock.
It was like once and for all and

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she was my sister, my brother
me and my cousins, all the roofs.

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It was like when you go on
the vaccination card and you go to

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all the kids to get us vaccinated
they took you to heal you from Spain.

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Whether they were or not, whether
they were touched or brought, they

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wouldn' t bring my n-
takes because I didn' t, I

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never, I never believed in being
healed as they mentioned it. It was

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traditional, no yes, if it
was something that is practiced, yes,

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it is practiced a lot there.
Yes, I remember we were going to

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sessions that can be said with healers
and where you had to queue, you

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had to queue up to be healed
and you came in and I tell the

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truth is that those people who do
that emanate a lot of positive energy.

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So you did go into the place
or the room and you did feel calm.

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Yeah, but from that to you
being really scared, I mean scared,

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because I didn' t want him
that much. What bothered me the

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most about that was that you couldn' t go on playing now or anything

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you believe in those ladies, in
that kind of practices or decorations, so

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look, right now. At the
time, I didn' t believe it.

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I was just a kid and I
mean, you want to keep playing,

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relax. But now, Ahorita,
for example, as you grow up,

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you go learning various things, because
you realize that there is alternative medicine.

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Yeah, that this can be said
is a part of because just like

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there is the famous Reike. Truth
is it heals you through energy. Yes,

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and there are, then, different
kinds of cures that are through energy.

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In this case, healing you with
fright was also, because through energy.

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We know that you have, thank
God, two beautiful children to whom

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we send a greeting. I mean, I know it' s not supposed

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to be, yeah. I do
because I told them they were going to

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see. Yes, I' m
going to say hello then a greeting to

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my children. I hope so,
exa Obia to Daniel, yes, you

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must be hearing that, in fact, Bobby is a fan of horror movies

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and all that kind. Yeah,
believe me, I' d like to

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invite you and you' d be
surprised by the stories you tell. Okay.

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Now what I' m going to
ask you to say hello to Bobby

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and Dani. I hope you'
re not afraid of what I' m

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going to ask your parents, your
dad. But you, like they did

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with you when you were a kid, would take your kids or practice the

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same thing they did with you when
I was a kid, take them to

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healing or be clean, because I
guess that' s all you' ve

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got left. Let' s say
tradition. I know that now as big

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as best. I don' t
know about lying to me you don'

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t practice it, but you would
practice it the same with your children,

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because see that sometimes when we go
we have been vacationing in Veracruz. My

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grandma and my aunt have always told
me, I mean, you have to

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take advantage of the children here to
cure them. Then I always turn them

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around and tell them they' re
coming on vacation. Granny, imagine coming

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on vacation and if you' ll
come close. And they won' t

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want to come anymore. I remember, don' t let them love playing

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where you have to stay in your
bed all day, all day, I

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mean, you can' t mean
if you' re gonna stop, for

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example, in the bathroom, if
you have to put on slippers or flip

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flops, that is, you can' t step on the floor. Yes,

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and realize that on your forehead a
handkerchief was tied and on your handkerchief

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they put a well as a cured
spirit. Yeah, and they put some

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herbs on you. Yeah, and
there you go and smell, you come

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back to weed, you smell like
weed, and you can' t bathe,

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that is, all day long.
For example, we' re already

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going to say at about twelve o' clock in the night. You can

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stand up and you can step on
the floor, but you can' t

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bathe, because everything they put on
you is supposed to be hot. Then

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it can do you harm. Robert
you have attended or you have known of

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people who have attended spiritist sessions in
Veracruz. I know that those spirit sessions

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in Veracruz are, then, very
heavy and I think it is the part,

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because Mexico is heavier in that environment, because this many call it the

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cradle of the devil. So,
you' ve been in some of her

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broken sessions. Yes, notice that
when I tell you that they took us

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to those cures once we left and
realized that we were supposed to be cured,

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to talk to us and the lady
who was, so she was healing

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us, she was talking to us
before I mean, before I started.

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You can go talk to us and
suddenly your grandmother told us in this case

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is my grandmother' s mom,
my grandma, she came with you,

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so she was, so she said
she was present and with us she had

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passed away. No and she had
already passed away, already had, already

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had several years of deceased and she
says she came with you and says she

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comes with you because she will always
take care of you. So, then,

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uncle there you don' t,
because it doesn' t surprise you,

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no, because they always tell you
that because mom, for example,

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that your relative will take care of
you and everything. But already when we

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were already in session because the lady
kind of started to own, provide or

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notice that it did not co-
operate, but she did get so white

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of the skin, that is to
say pale and suddenly she started to tell

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us things or talk to us,
as I say with her tone of voice,

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because it was not like she changed, like she changed the tone of

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the word with the tone of voice, but she didn' t go on

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to talk about the way my grandmother
Robert spoke to us. I want you

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to leave us this thing that you' re telling us about this anecdote that

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you have staff. Don' t
leave it for the climax, the program

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and what they think Julio, I
don' t know we' re going

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with one more song, because let' s get there with one song not

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if before we send greetings to the
people who are in the chat again Sally

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gasper varra thank you or to organize
Jacobo, my compadre, Jesus is the

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sewing a greeting Jorge Chapa and because
Mario Shuara I think he is listening to

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my cousin a greeting also for the
region of covedoso tankandes in Potosí, Mr

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Masaru Fuku Moto kak who are listening
to us all there in quantity for everyone.

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And so let' s go with
that next role to, come out

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this song Makka to everyone who'
s listening to us through the chat,

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to everyone who' s on the
show. This one' s from MGMT,

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it' s called Inthe Rockers.
Now let' s have this song,

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my rady ada. We continue,
because we are still here in his

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program fear in re- editing and
we are already in the final part of

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the program, in the final straight, already of this session number ten of

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fear in reality, one of days
of fear in raditar. Thank you so

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much for greeting the people who are
in the chat here again. Says the

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Gaster. A greeting to my friend
Gaby, who walks in the defective and

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goes to see a viatle room that
is to make Paul McCartney. Everyone you

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want to see is going to have
a live time on the Internet as well.

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A greeting for the chaperrite, which
I know is listening to us and

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doing homework. Greeting to make James
Caesar James, the valor so. Thank

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you so much for hurting us.
Also Ilin, who says he loves you

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with madness and compassion. I don' t know who' s there Julio,

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uh, or take care of Julius
Something about running around, and for

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Jesus, the Sewer, too,
brothert For the final straight of the program,

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what you' re telling us.
Please, you can take the subject

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back to me, Julio. We' re talking about the spiritist sessions.

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I just saw a movie. I
was talking to salt about a movie called

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Drarney th Hill. Here in Miguito
he was known as Arrar Trameni Hell,

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very bad movie, but a churro, but losing farts. But the truth

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is, I mean, it caught
my attention about the spiritist sessions. Steal

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what else you can tell us antecedents
of this. Yeah, look, I

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' m telling you, we were
there and I, the lady started getting

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all pale and, I mean,
the amazing thing was that good up to

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that point. I didn' t
know that after saying, I was being

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possessed by the soul, so to
speak, of great- grandmother, of

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my great- grandmother. And I
tell you and it wasn' t like

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in the movies that she started to
change her voice, or she started walking

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like the person, if not with
the normal voice, but saying words,

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the way she spoke, exactly the
words my grandma used to say, and

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the way my grandma spoke to us. Yeah, for example, it was

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me, it was a lady I
didn' t know. So, this

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one for us, communism, we
didn' t know her. Obviously,

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she didn' t make us all
Grandma either. In fact, that was

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the first time we went with the
lady, because that lady was supposed to

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do the chores, she was going
from city to city like she' s

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a very good doctor and goes from
city to city and so does the lady.

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So, then, she started talking
to my cousin, my oldest cousin,

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the oldest one with us, Angela, and my grandmother named her,

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Jelly. Yeah, so we all
call her Jenny, and the lady started

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referring to her with the nameÉlin
as Jelly, not as Angela. Yes,

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for example, I was called this
Gordo and he didn' t refer

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to me as Roberto. She said, she told me, Gordo told me

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then and she started telling us things
and she started telling us that because she

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was, I mean, that we
knew she was okay and everything. And

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then, all of a sudden,
my cousins and my grandmother and my aunt

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started crying and hugging the lady as
if she were really going, now,

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and she realizes that I was standing
behind, because I was the only man.

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All the more were pure women and
so on shot that you don'

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t mean, you can' t
believe it, you can' t believe

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it? And this one over there
said the, that is the lady I

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say this, because I have to
go. I have to go, I

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have to keep resting, but this
one wherever it is, I' m

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going to, I' m going
to be taking care of it. Then

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pretend I was in shock there until
I got out. That' s when

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it kind of came to me and
yes, I mean, it gave me

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a squirt of feeling and that'
s when I started crying. Robert,

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once again I came out and I
want to thank you for coming today on

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our Miran Radio show, such and
so I say thank you very much,

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because programs on the invitation or I
came out, something else you want to

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add. Yes, in reiterating again
the thanks to Robert for sidetracking with us.

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I mean, I know you work
early. I know what you have

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to go to sleep right now and
get up early. Thank you very much.

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Your stories really had a lot of
fun. We don' t expect,

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as I tell all guests, not
to be the first or the last

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time, Robert, I don'
t know if you want to say anything

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before you finish the show. So
greetings to Yara and Saira, who told

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me that maybe they came to the
final part of the program and that they

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asked me to ask Cachete is that
with how much you are there, with

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how many there, with how many
there? Then we thank them once again.

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Gigmans was again left without telling the
story he had from the beginning that

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he wanted to tell and I have
not been able to tell from the first

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chapter. It' s a show
and we' re not going to tell

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you that I can' t.
My so and already to say goodbye also

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to fire people from the chat to
the gasper thank you so much for having

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unveiled. Parra lalo, thank you
very much for the next show. I

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' ll give you your song Send
it to me by mail A, ellen

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Aiín, Jesús el Coser and Gaby
connect earlier. Please, I know Gaby

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' s listening to us, but
a greeting to all of you. He

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was with us more in the controls
also of lugo and we left them with

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this musical cut without before saying goodbye. My name was Sally Gutierrez. My

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name is Julio Flores, and Julio
is going to leave us with a song

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that our guest is going to present
to us. This musical cut will see

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you next Wednesday. Good- bye, Robert. Please, that Rola guy.

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We don' t usually put them
on this show, but the truth

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is, it' s really hot. OK sometimes from a band called Terry

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Special and the song is called sochro
ud mi yu. We are in such

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a thank you see you next Wednesday. Bye.