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0:00 You see the strange reality of the Lucia Naga Gabriel of the houses is Caracol Radio four hundred and sixteen in the show Naga, Domel Quistor is very good afternoon and character of the day in the Luciernaga Gabriel, very good afternoon for use for listeners. Thank you for being with us. Once again character of the day, Nicolás Petro Burgos, again the eldest son of the President of the Republic, who has given a statement to the Committee of Inquiry into Indictments of the House of Representatives that inquires about the presidential financing of the year two thousand twenty- two. Nicolás Petro, as he had anticipated several months ago, threw away everything the Prosecutor had told him when he offered to collaborate in August last year to tell about everything that had happened in the development of the presidential campaign to which he made an important part, especially in the Atlantic Department.

0:58 He said in a good video he posted after his statement to members of Congress that he had been pressured by Prosecutor Mario Burgos to testify against his father here. What has to be said is that neither he nor his lawyer of that moment said before the judge or before some other instance last year that that pressure existed, even before the questions of Judge Nicolás Petro said I am absolutely free to declare in that case, when the political earthquake that we still have on the scene was armed, even through his Twitter x account, his sentimental partner of the time, da Vázquez said there was no pressure of any kind food the letter unlimited calls and visits many times throughout the day. He always had even better deal than I say.“ Dave Vazquez, be serious cowards, ” like dus said Vásquez. Yes, sir and the lawyer of the time, who is no longer with him, to confirm that there was no pressure for these statements, that they will have no legal value because precisely that offer of agreement that Nicolás Pedro had had with the Prosecutor' s Office was not fulfilled. What about the statements you gave in your weekly interview with Vicky Dávila. In that case, like that, it is not an affidavit, if it can have a witness value, a value as evidence to prove for or against, what researchers can determine. It is worth noting Gabriel that in

2:30 this case he is not the star witness of presidential funding. It' s one more element you can take or not take. It does not have the prevailing evidence to enable the Electoral Council or the Indictment Commission itself to determine whether the expenditure caps were violated or whether there was prohibited funding. The National Electoral Council has already made several inquiries in other areas. Regardless of the statements of Nicolás Petro, there are other elements that allegedly determine this violation for expenses that were not reported by the candidate, because they are responsible for the campaign, the candidate, Gustavo Petro and the campaign manager, Ricardo Roa the Commission of accusations. In this case, he takes that statement, he will surely receive all the proceedings of the National Electoral Council and will have to take a decision before the House Plenary before next June 12. That decision should be discussed by the House plenary. In what some, like the former member of the nineteen thousand and former comrade of arms of Gustavo Petro, Carlos Alonso Lucio, has called the political trial. Here we also have a new element today Gabriel, which surely we could review later and it is a very deep investigation that the La Silla Empty portal has done about a man who today, Nicolás Petro, mentioned that is euclide storres. We return with that not orlando villar very good afternoon, Good afternoon, Gabriela to the listeners of the firefly on Caracol Radio.

3:55 Yes, much attention to that name that is known in today' s testimony, Mr de s Torres, of the well- known Clan Torres, who has obtained, according to that investigation from our colleagues in the empty chair, millionaire contracts one hundred and eighty billion pesos, being the main contractor in at least forty companies related to his name, especially Gabriel in the field of energy transition. He is the main contractor for the Unconventional Energy Fund and efficient management, known as phenoje contracts that have been criticized all day for alleged cost favors and, in addition, evidence of corruption. There are contracts, among others, for the installation of solar panels in several strata one and two in seven departments of the Caribbean for more than ninety- five billion pesos. Besides, it' s all bara, of course. But, in addition, Gabriel, they make everyone, because energy recision is complicated, man, of course, and within that transition, Gabriel, we have to allocate funds for the purchase of appliances for public s in remote areas. More than fifty- one million pounds have been spent there. More days sells appliances in Colombia.

5:08 But you trust your friends more. Of course, there is a complex business network there to somehow camouflage this Mr Villar' s involvement. But what those qualifiers are, I' m saying what you find in the empty chair investigation, because they say that at least forty companies would then be there related to Torres' name. But, also look at this, Gabriel, there was a concern about an alert in the Congress of the Republic because they are trying to modify the PSICOFRE control and surveillance system related to transit procedures so that they can, through a single contractor, take all the traffic surveillance in all the cities of the country and guess who would be the main beneficiary to see you if this one when it is going to mark goes a market usually does not start to buy in several stores. It' s just that of course in that case, look Gabriel, there' s a very serious alert. The alert comes from the but to see now but to see we are not in campaign grana. But that one, sir, what are you doing here?

6:14 But and came here the studio Silver by reme what liked Silver r t has light, Mr Carmelo, it is good afternoon, Gabriel, a very special greeting for you, for all the listeners. It' s too bad to put them on me like that, Gabrion, but I' ve got clearance from above. So, but we' re not in elections, says Carmado, Gabriel. But I have come here precisely to protest that some people and media are not letting the good government do its good job of giving back the money invested to those who supported the presidential campaign. Not to see what happens is that that has neither foundation nor reason to see If you see it here, Gabriel, Gabrie can not or did not come here to hear more opinions. Against. I come to see to the rights of my representative, who are being greatly affected. He' s a lawyer, yes, of course they' re solmeo López and Uclides Torres Euclid. That' s what I call it. You say it' s the trust we have clear or the old yes, I do, look much you don' t realize, but you have harmed my brothers or you play as a lawyer. I' m gonna make him respect you, counselor, where from when. Well, look, Gabriel, I don' t know if they didn' t know, but I' m a lawyer, too. I studied in pitalito with whom I wanted to laugh laugh respect this same Carmelo. I took my professional card in the same place as where he bought his card to see no worse The first thing is that no prou is slander, it is insult where I understand.

7:38 This gentleman studied with Julián Bedoya the Medellin. And you can, you can, but you also have your card, yes, Julia, that' s why a card the same way Julian Bedoya got it. But what does it say here, lawyer, lawyer, well, there it is or, but I' m not going to do it to you, but I' m not going to let you doubt Melchizedek' s card so please respect this program and withdraw. If I retire, Gabriel, I retire, but I will not rest until they leave the good government, return to the last weight, to the good November Goodbye. Sir, I don' t know, you told me a little bit about this, a good deal. They are looking for a way of doing nothing, and in the campaign we go out with help giving anyone nothing but an investment support. I really do change and contract if I was very happy Euclid and get technical contracts profits for montbo and here give me a tenor for corpos or I bring it from bolendo oi GOI giving millions entertaining the living says medo money in campaigns with how little I invest

9:16 multe pleco silver empira mi disnojo. The idea is not felt. They invest the doctors they want to govern and so they all win. They never forget bu good friend, tell him millionaire if they love alive, do not forget the peace favor I say for that, even in arcs campaign supporting. They ' ve also gone out and many who' ve done what they' ve wanted to finally have to watch and you know it' s a backpack.

10:11 What a thing, little train, oh, how you doing, sir, seeing, cordial granite. Greeting for your Mercedes, for all the dearest. I know twenty myself before the light and er wins the first Spanish- speaking program on Colombian radio. Well, I have no anesthesia. Yes, sir yes, Dr Jesús Churro will come with a new cut and all stone and goes through in front of Norbert and come now loren Quincapille and you can fix us I lost allajahahahahahahaja, I stuck a regeta that urman and that hit me a rule. Oh, and then she snuck me out. I got it too when your Mercedes combs. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, in half, in half? Sure, hey, I' m peeled. Hey, hey, it' s good for Norberca' s interview. Well, Don Pedrilleno, in a warm warlock. Greeting for flying in Villarcito they deserve petito, how it goes, Nice how it goes. Everything as he talks, the family is marceline and better. Yes, sir, everything and where they go on Easter week or garden, but what do you care? But as for breaking the spot, then, but as for conversation, because, as he prays to all, the gardens carry the children. So of course, well, no, but not to see, Mr Man Director, but where I am saying no, that no more do you know how I lay his mercy I almost tell his Marcelinto Hello give me the drink in this as I give me good afternoon, it would be that I take off when the little girl the mess that I do not understand. No, I don' t think I can tell you that I don' t understand you? And who are you going to see Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha? Let' s see, man, no, sir, don' t be like that. That' s what

11:43 forges character looked good. Yeah, like they say, since there' s no nice thing without super or ugly without your luck. It' s true, a cordial. Greeting also for Risa. It takes away good afternoon. He deserves that well, as the cousins say, keep him here in the cabin. Fedri Te come late Risa it to his beloved mercy they will bring him here to the cabin and finish the cards here in BOGOTAAAA. Good paramulancito equally for Corocito and Perito Hello, pedrito, sport, they ordered radio acros. You tell your Marcellin and yes, yes, at one time yes, no, he tells me out of love your mercellilo. Someone greeted him too since his birthday. Still yes, I cut you the greeting cho chola cocolizo that so I tell you that not little sedious was arturito to Cocoliso a cordial greeting. Likewise to Oluo and Diego Angulo who will later give him rest.

12:41 Well, sir and happy, birthday. Van joroquito Alfredo var hombre a Jorge, Alfredo Vargas, a my dear friend, brother of the soul who always listens to us until now a big hour, yes, great listener of the Lucía, or yes, yes, a very big boy, a kiss there, Jorge, good lord, and when his worship shoots two four or thirty - one minutes, it is time for him to tell a good joke. And I don' t mean the story of the lusion here, no, don' t forgive me, I don' t mean the now. Not that you' re already talking about the thirty- eight. He has already been betrayed by four thousand four, thirty- eight ninety- seven. Pas It' s time for me to tell a good joke, or it' s a berita for Dr Rejiturna Yasuom to go if a man came that way to the football generation. Yes, and he arrived with his uniform and everything, and he said by Dr Jesus for a moment that he is already having coffee with mad laughter in mind. Ah, well, they took care of him and so said doctors they lasted if you tell me just like he talks like he' s cosine. If I refer to you monster phenomena I leave the doctor as a stupe, I don' t feel it equal to the order. He said authors that I want to be a football referee. I ' ve seen, because the level of arbitration I' m a good referee and I want to be a good football referee? I' m telling you the truth, he' s trained. I say if I want to be the good football referee, told him where the cumin is and managed you the photographer to take the picture here to this man who wants to be a football referee, aha already I tell you good they are still a clear spit.

13:58 They' re like a potrero out there in the window and he doesn' t want that not to be a potrero. He was already on his back. The hamionity magi like that morning comminity seems in a waiter you call him and don' t come my son, and he called him and nothing. I called him and nothing. Then I already pedro Nicolás, because almost all the community are called Nicolás Nicolás. Yeah, come on, but he didn ' t want any more astonishment than he called him on his cell phone to see and his cell phone went off that this batteryless sheath. Peter didn' t, and in one of those, by accident, the Comminity looked again. Of course, vega, he gave birth, come on, I stung how dear, come on, but no more would bring you the Chamber.

14:39 Then the House was brought to the chief order He said do me a favor. Take a picture here of this asshole who wants to be arts. Yeah, he did it with his hand like that by pointing ace because he was sitting there where he' s sitting melco. Because he tells me no case for stinging or for what actually or a bortome or the boto this asshole who faces astute that is the referee. Of course not, no, I' m not a cretining asshole. Don' t take anything from him. There ' s no parvic in it. Gabriel de las casas is Caracol Radio four hundred thirty- five. There is breaking news in the Constitutional Court Orlando Villar Yes Gabriel, because they have just declared the change in the name of the Colombian Air Force unenforceable. President Gustavo Petro, through a law of twenty- three zero two last year, had changed this name to the Colombian Aerospace Force.

15:37 It was already being handled in image, in logos, in the official documentation of the Presidency. It had already been warned by the Attorney General' s Office at the time, when he sent out a concept and said that that change of name required a modification, a constitutional reform, and could not be done by an ordinary law. Basically, Gabriel, because articles four and two hundred and seventeen of the Constitution expressly point to the air force as part of the country' s military forces. This limits the legislator' s scope of action in this case to change that name. I wanted to see if we' re going to go to a quantity of silver that I imagine. We made changes in logos, in airplane paint, in uniforms, in stationery.

16:22 Anyway, there was a warning. In the face of that, some kind of crime could be defined if the warning had not been heeded, or the Court should be expected to define, at least I would say, a possible property detriment, because it was enough to read the political constitution or even to go to any expert. Article two seventeen states that the Nation shall have for its defence permanent military forces formed by the army, the army and the air force. That' s why they changed his name. There was no one in the house of Nariño man force area, Colombia, collompiano point want to change his name in a constitutional reform. I would believe that my doctor Vladimir, at the time did not warn or warn and we always do not know if he warned. But these kinds of administrative acts look at the Constitutional Court. How could I not know that when I was next to the GABI?

17:15 You know what that' s called, like prantism, but no, if you ask me, I think President Petro was surrounded by a great team of lawyers. The President listens to no one. The problem is that it ignores those who know it, and we have heard that in many scenarios of the current national government. That is why they have gone to several ministers because they do not consider that the opinion of supply is more important than that of him and in this case, he believed it was more important than the political Constitution. What is happening is that administrative acts are presumed to be legal and, therefore, I find it very difficult for there to be any legal action for a possible propriety. But silver if we spend, above all we spend on space rockets, painting rockets with aerospace and Colombian forces. Yes, and talking to NASA, and not really thinking about long- term plans for Colombia to ever set up large satellites. We' ve put in a few little ones or participated in space missions. We' ve got a high school engineer at NASA and then she' s out of her own effort. Or so, but the name changes of the ministries will be that they' ll go all the way to that ancestral thing. No When the ministry is created, they are generally created by legal norm and, therefore, the name is associated there with a law, not with the political constitution, because the configuration of the cabinet is always left open to the will of the Presidents. The number and name of ministries are not in the Constitution, and in this case it

18:48 is easier to do so by means of an ordinary law that is seen from the Congress of the Republic. They recommend to the Minister of Defense that, instead of dropping the current and dedicating this subject to the name, call it what it' s called. It really worries about the force, about the helicopters that are parked at this moment, that they did not have the Russian maintenance of the controversy that we have already talked about and also the strengthening of the planes that remained there. They were left in the inkwell of that tender. Those studies and tense that purchase. We never anticipate that disorder We go to another place that, if it is ordered and peace is breathed, we enter live to the sessions of the Congress of Colombia urgent or JP EXTRA that JP L that there was. Sir, I appreciate you being with me right now because I' ve got a last minute to see JP happen. Four followers. We have at this time on Facebook live three thousand two hundred and eighty- four with the instagn On Line seven thousand six hundred and forty- one. Thank you, Gabriel. This is terrifying or politically I am Green inside, but very mature, throwing positor out. They want to get me out of the urgent Green Party and all because he says they grab with Maria José Pizarro gives me a laugh that is what the representative of Kathry gubinao who screams I ask my fifty cameramen not to miss this dramatic moment, a moment where it is here that I scream at the entrance. I tell you, I will never support those who raise their voices to a woman, as you

20:22 did to Maria José Pizarro. I don' t allow that. Besides, if the Green Party continues to be at the service of the patriot, I ' m also going where the fuck my ten cameramen are and there' s also extra Gabriel. I think Kathry and Juba' s cameramen now joined my video crew. Or call me urgent cover. Yeah, now I' m on my way with a tragic face. Always yes, how many followers we have connected on YouTube. Six thousand three hundred twenty- eight. Alarm, alarm, forgiveness alert. This is what Green Representative Kathlin Miranda says, or they give her their earrings on the wires in my tervicium cameras because she pays them to me, because I' m video impellers to the House. Well quiet jp because while I disagree with what you said, Maria José Pizarro, I remind you that the party has not thought of expelling you. So we calm down and my cameramen are neos by twenty. Gabriel, yes to watch twenty caten video recorders and Miranda went to work with me. Also yes, how many followers are pending that hour in my JP titus wait mine, if I tell you my brother Thursday seven thousand three hundred twelve, but what I see is Maria José Pizarro, a moment defiling here graven tape and many times I find it absolutely unnecessary that you JP tell you the Minister of Defense that you are a cyric, you are a liar. Stop yelling, respect, stop reacting like a rabid dog stop talking, don' t get angry like a rabid dog. I just treated myself like a rabid dog. If it

21:52 ' s the time who sees her, she treated me like a rabid dog. The fact that you think you laughed an authorization to treat me like a rabid chais dog and that' s not the most serious thing. The most serious thing is that my cameramen didn' t close me up when I was calling myself a rabid dog. H E Mr Gabriel Cuadre on camera ready, good, but you' re asking now, but rabid. Well, it ' s nice all of Colombia to see it Well, it' s not good anymore. Well now, Felicio Mira mel I wanted to do with these rabid dog problems I think that in this case, certainly on both sides, there is a very high level of verbal aggressiveness that does absolutely no good to democracy. It ends up being a regrettable show in this case of the two protagonists and is also triggering a kind of internal crisis in the Green Party, because some members consider that j Fernández should not belong to that party. In any case, JP has put votes on them to get two more curules.

22:57 Yes, yes, they must be aware rather if they think about the election Since the two thousand twenty- six and besides, the Green Party has had those characteristics of having people between right center left center left have even two intial antagonists Shine on the one hand and JP on the other. No one has asked that inti leave, one, in fact, extreme left and one of extreme right within the Greens, at least within that configuration. Gabriel, if it is interesting that if we are in a Green Party, what they ask is that they stick to the philosophy of that Green Party to make those disciples of Antanas Mocus, which was what inspired this poor party in so apocu they ended up carrying it as an old sack for ots without men. They' re idea up to gas, not men. Or I' m not with them. They converted the poor so few that, because of their state of health, they have not returned to public life. But the Green Party ends up being a very rare mezcala there, because this is the origin of the 19th century, which has been run for much of its existence by Carlos Ramón González, a man who was close to Gustavo Petro at the time of arms and who is now very close to the government already named him the Intelligence Directorate after passing through the General Secretariat, so there are a number of people in the Green Party who say how they can agree internally. There are very dissimilar positions and they end simply and plainly. I' d say there are two

24:32 sides, the repentant and the non- repentant. This government has gone out to say that they are sorry to have pushed Gustavo Petro' s ideas to reach the presence of Miranda and Catalán. There would be exactly two catherines yes, yes. And on the other hand, there are some very but very radically affections for the government, like Intias Prilla, for example, who has also gotten into the fight. And there they are in that riffi rafe that will surely have consequences for the two thousand twenty- six. That is why, among others, they are trying to push forward this orangutan, this monstrous project that would allow transhumance, trafism, forgiveness, the trafugism that is to be changed from party t- shirt from one day to the next. But most of them signed it. No, of course, because there are many interested in getting away from one side to the other, to get out of here, but not man, because that' s how they put it.

25:22 This one does, but not a rabi dog which for once is allowed to be changed. That' s an absolute lack of that. It' s a joke because, besides, we already have about forty games. I hope, I hope, as already done with citizen force, continue that task of debugging that began a high court. Correct me by praying the Council of State, eliminating that authorization given by the National Electoral Council in a true festival of parties that created between the two thousand twenty- two and two thousand twenty- three. That' s part of that clowning we' re living today and that' s why, that sad spectacle we' ve seen and for which Roy Barreras and Armando Benedetti himself or a militancy were sanctioned at the time.

26:06 Moreover, this situation, which significantly affects the future of the reforms currently under way in the Congress of the Republic, is already happening with the Liberal Party, which is fractured and at the time of the vote depends on which side of the sidewalk is located to vote favorably or against the reforms of the Government. It' s just that it is, too. Of course, the same thing will happen now with the Green Party Gabriel, which is also beginning to make flat bench decisions, then in the face of the reform vote. If you don' t start doing it individually. One precision Gabriel, that we must make the name of aerospace force fall is from the law. This was transmitted by Congress at the request of the Government, so neither in the Government nor in Congress did they realize that this was in the Constitution. Well, four forty- seven. Old lady sweeps more. Sir, we' re not going to be crying king Ting down, who was laughing at me that it looked practically like, but not even that pattern. Thank you, Skipper, thank you for not, because the Liverpool Party was already concentrating on the program. Yes, sir, and then because he knows the game' s over. No, because I got a message from an app and he tells me but I was contenting Sebastian' s song six one left the game.

27:26 He did yes, the global was eleven yes, that is to say and Sebastian Vargas that then not the sports journalist or Sebastian Vargas. I haven ' t seen him around here aha Duran scored with the ascon Villa also Parmen yes yes and he didn' t say anything to Sebastian Van No, nothing, no, no, Sebastian no. No. Here it is neither seen nor laughed I understood why we are for Bogotá. Yeah, and lenga, but if you have the app, because half an hour already watching the TV to see if it was, because that' s the way it was, oh, that could be the joke. Yeah, but there' s a surprise. There' s a surprise because the Bayer Lever Chusen is losing two one with the Agdam carabac right now. Don' t tell me, yes, sir ah I' m not, but Juan Sebastián no, they won ' t be good either. I don' t know what to tell jokes after, but what a Jahahaha that comes and is on the husband' s pair. These are of whom my husband of them, because she was his wife and he was their husband and they had been about eight years of home, eight eight years, eight years. I' ve got the uniel you ' re wearing now or I' ll write it down. Yeah, he ' s a notary. He practically has the records of all the marriages in the program there. Yes, and then the wife, the wife of love, tells him that is that the child spends them at twenty- four hours on Twitter. You should talk to him. No. No, I can ' t, because I' ve got it blocked. Hahaja luso all Gabriel

29:03 of the houses. Yeah, is it clear as lightning at Good afternoon? Good afternoon, Gabriel, how are you, men, man Don Eusebio, how are you? I had already forgotten, men, Les no, no, no, no, it' s just that I was focused here on my little Roberto Carlos, that we have hardly ever heard him in this section and I already saw the story. There. Yeah, yeah, Robert knocks it sixty through a door and you can' t go out through it. Yeah, yeah, what about the man. All that, yes, Gabriel sinton is always with the man program. You are very dear, very dear, sir, yes, no, because it is my program to spend you always, always snail of all life, as they say jaf PI. All right, yes, Mr Dumpster to die, as the Camacho engineer likes to let people say yes, oh yes, yes, yes, oscarcolero, yes, yes. You wanted me out there all of a sudden clear, consult and help me. Yeah, how about where you use it. He saw good afternoon. I wanted the time. If they talked to him, you cheated on me or not, no, sir, but despite seeing him say so, no. No. I' ll be honest. I think I have to lie and make it clear that I miss you, too. I ' ve got or I' ve got luxranged. I have accumulated anger.

30:03 Things like that to Güey that, but they always carry them with me. I always charge them with rage. It is true, yes, you see Mary is that that is why they are always with accumulated rage. He' s got a tantrum built up and you two, not either of me. I think I' m telling you the truth, because I don' t have to miss it. I did not make that car right now and lunch and there I removed it all ah good already quiet you heard melqui of how much is that life expectancy in the country and more or less in Colombia, according to the sea reforms are believed to be seventy- six, eight years. You see who women live the best, who have the best conditions. Or alas, but thanks to him, you think how many years you' re going to be out for? I have no idea. You' re already out there for seventy- three years. No, of course not today they take five then if it' s enough to mention it to us, I don' t think so. Who is the closest to the seventy- three there is to the program say it was there if one of them didn ' t have each one' s card. No, if you, if not brothers, but don' t answer any more. I don' t care what you have with one, one, no, but no, no, no, no. The table is, but it' s not.

31:08 It wasn' t much, yes and yes. Po is the sport. I wanted myself there every now and then not what cold brother falls by bicycle in the parking lot. I couldn' t see what songs of three. Mr Alexandra, you haven' t told them what it feels like to spend the seventy- three. Not because I don' t think it hasn' t happened three. Respect, Mr Enga, I didn' t poop like I' m going to tell you that the seventy- three I don' t know. If not well minded I say so you do many years in the program. You' re not telling him Güey. Yes, you' re putting me in honor a lot you' ve always said. No. No. I can' t allow you to mess with the show people like that. I had hope man with these questions as easy as you would answer if you were going to be like in the seventy- five. By the way, no, no, no, no, I see how old I am. If not, why do you care about the age of others, but don' t answer the mark, which is rude with rudeness. You shouldn' t be a reporter in the happyter that because we attend to that gentleman is a friend of yours, not a friend, but I don' t have that, that life expectancy thing in the country. Seventy- three, sixty- six years has gone up, it remains the same as it has. The fact is that I have just come out of a study of Lancet' s highly prestigious scientific publication, which says that the pandemic of covid in the world reduced global life expectancy by one six years. Research says the pandemic had a deeper impact than other events in half a century. He was responsible for almost sixteen million deaths between two thousand twenty and two thousand twenty-

32:39 one and that this had an impact on that so- called life expectancy, which is the average that each country can expect that the majority of its population can have a maximum. However, of course, there will be people who exceed that average. But this has a great impact on public policies, health policies, pensions, etc. When in the case of Colombia we have and is the most recent data that was delivered last year, between two thousand and two thousand twenty- one we passed from seventy- one years of life expectancy in the year two thousand, beginning the century to seventy- six eight years, which indicates that there were substantial elements that improved the quality of life of Colombians and that allow us to have that higher average. There are data in the case of Latin American as Chile eighty- one years is the best Costa Rica eighty- eight years, Cuba seventy- eight nine years. The average in Latin America and the Caribbean has passed in the last two decades from seventy - one to two years to seventy- five years. The country as expected with the least life expectancy in Latin America Haiti, barely sixty- four years, is followed by Guyana with seventy and Bolivia seventy- eight. But overall, they' ve all improved over the past two decades. But the recent data is from Lancet' s research into how covid ends up impacting life expectancy

34:10 globally in all countries. Of course what happens is that laughter also helps to have a better and longer life expectancy. The problem is that here we don ' t collaborate with the old way crazy drama. Sir, don' t make us cry out loud. I was laughing that then I was practically wasting you ok like for the humor pattern, i e that this gentleman could live a hundred depends on what if the joke was good. Yeah, maybe and because they doubt it. That' s already a threat. But no, no, no, no, no, no, practically not, because it ' s laughing and laughing. If you' re going to make him laugh, you' re going to get a lot better and help with waiting.

35:00 I' m not afraid of laughing. Not there, yes, it doesn ' t help much, no, no, you, no, no, no, because it wasn' t contributing to humanity. But at the strength of my humanity, help him to see a humanity. Man touched to die young. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there' s no life expectancy here. No. No, no, no, no, yes, bird Mary, that oh yes what bird Mary, who are talking strangely. Yeah, sure, yeah, I don' t see him from yesterday. Yeah, well, they' re talking about two friends, friends of whom, friends of them. As long as he tells a friend to take it, eat tea, it seems that the other day my wife asked me for the painting and I, out of care I gave him the glue and ay no judas and how it is. No, because you still don' t talk to me see you diel it looks naga ga and the one of the houses is snail Radio. Well let' s teach in the firefly in Radio snail. Let us recall a few words from the then Minister of Health, Carolina Cork, when she referred to the need to generate an explicit crisis in the health system. So it was, there must be a clear explicit crisis that enables society to understand that change is required. The Minister of Health of the Government of Gustavo Petro Orlando Villar said so. We are coming to an explicit crisis, in this case because of a shortage of medicines. Yes,

36:30 Gabriel, not only the shortage of medicines, also what happens with the persecution, At least so was said in the Congress of the Republic the insurers, the bad results that has had barks in the administration and management of the resources of topics like the SODAT, the delays, also in the monthly shifts of the resources of the maximum budgets to the PSC, as well as the fulfillment of the legal orders that have even come out of the high cuts. Ordering the Ministry of Health to put the day on the issues. Yesterday Ladres confirmed Gabriel late in the night that they are at a turning point pending to the PSC because the resources have not been delivered from the Ministry of Finance. Then who do we believe, because the Minister says all the money has been turned.

37:15 That and the Minister of Health is lying to the country, because he said it at least in the Congress of the Republic, where I assure that the payments were up to date that he did not understand why or rather he did understand and again pointed to the PSC to be responsible for the crisis that is unfolding. So look at the phrase that President Gustavo Petro and Gabriel said when he was talking about the issue of the fight against drugs, and then it was a comparison of the fight against drugs with the drugs that are bought in the céutic forms, saying that it is easier today to get the illicit drugs on the streets than the drugs that generate the céutic drugs. Now he does not complement it by pointing out that there are problems with the vima, that there are still a number of soloists or ready of dams more than seventeen thousand at this time, as well as a complex management that has been given and that have been said by the same associations of medicine and céutic pharmaceuticals, that the national government is somehow suffocating the system, generating a crisis of medicines to later promote its reform to the health. On the subject, it is not strange that the Minister says one thing in front of Congress and another is happening in reality. It has gone through many debates. The issue of debts has been going on for more than a year and the Government has always denied that it was behind schedule. The Government always claimed that the PSCs did not have them. Why complain now about debts to the PSC. They come from previous governments. We have never been fully up to date in health payments in

38:45 Colombia. Of course the problem is that to cover that gap that always existed in matter, for example, of the so- called maximum budgets, which is the additional silver that is usually turned, but its maximum positions, which correspond to treatments that do not appear covered by the Basic Health Plan, etc. That technical part, that covered it with bank credits, with other financial procedures, because there was a confidence in the system or because you could be allocating some of those reserves and waiting for the Government to turn you around normally with those arrears. The problem now is that, since last year, there has been an absolute distrust not only of the system, but also of those who were responsible for meeting those needs and, therefore, the increase has been greater in the accumulation of State- owned debt by health institutions. And that is what is causing, first of all, that there is a lower quality of service in the case of the supply of medicines, which is vital for many diseases, because that we already have for six or eight months and now joins, for example, alerts from the society of psychiatry. The state of sans mental of Colombians has always been said is critical and much more after the pandemic. And yet one of the new warnings is that there is a shortage of mental health medicines. Also, unfortunately, the issue of cancer, a thing as critical as this one already has the warnings of many people saying that

40:17 it is not accessing the drugs at hand. That is the absolute responsibility of the Government, of the ivima, of the Minister of Health and of the lord of the adres who is always at the side of the Minister of Health and who repeat the lies that the Minister has said. If the Minister keeps lying. There is a shortage of medicines, there is an explicit crisis, already almost agitated for health, such a crism to cornnuncio andalu already without remedy that needed exsculin and his preferred, for the zuja. Oy passes a bitter tragua to pass discarded. The tasted secret medicine vap pa mal and is not a hunch with what your pren malaria and one will have to wait on the medication. He' s just got grace left, exhausting, guessing my scavenging

41:50 shovel people have a metal epireme. It' s not uncommon for me to regret the new emece was something nava. I cashed all the income. We saw it gram sports in good radio snail sebastian vargas. How we go, Lord watching Gabriel Happy afternoon for all twenty- six chosen by Lorenzo, for the friendly matches of the day, twenty- two you with six two calling in a high percentage ok ready. I lacked only Kevinmier, the archer of the Blue Cross of Mexico, Borja and Borja, who did not miss Orja, but I still do not know for Ja. From the point of view, you know that technicians marry some players. If I speak povedas, I am trying to come to the conclusion that MiguelÁngel Borjan is not of the taste that has made poveda Juan Sebastián did well in the games that was quoted in December against Mexico and Venezuela, but at this moment what there is but knows how much And plays in the second division of it, the Terrin.

43:01 The day Néstor Lorenzo loses he goes wrong there, yes, we' ll be able to talk. He' s got us with the quiet card he ' s got in 16 games, he' s lost. Yes, then, Néstor loren yes no le roi c and many we say the Russian League is more than colonial to have four players and here only one who we know or know in some way, Nestor Lorenzo. He doesn' t like being politically correct. What he knows, what he likes, what follows him is very judicious. Beb videos all day long follows all that. There you are watching videos of Oscarmon, Saluis his wachapita not that far either. They don ' t give what you expected, least of all the singer. But, well, that' s the way life is Oscar Darío today is already cerquista.

43:45 Listen here, my God, if Pascardario' s anesthesia weekend starts to meet in London, Friday' s game that Oscar Dario is tremendous, put the intimacy one and everything puts it a shore less corded with focus. Yeah, yeah, it was the microphone that sounds really bad. Now he does tell a joke brother has two Perez wait. I' m gonna take that off. Apart from the twenty- six summoned a tennis cortica and it is that Camila Osorio and Emilian Arango are the leading players in the Colombian Nomina for the Billie Jing King game in the Bogotá Lagartos club between April 9 and 13, facing Argentina, Chile, Ecuador, Peru and Venezuela. This is a rather important match for the selection, to call it in football terms, selection in Colombian female tennis. Let' s see what happens with Camino Osorio and today the story I bring you remember what happened on the 8th of September of one thousand nine hundred ninety- one at the Santiago Bernabeo Stadium match Real Madrid Valladolid. Don' t tell him eight and the Bergader yes, what a shame, what' s green. Yeah, he' s a millionaire, too. Yeah, well, about the millionaire. If you are also found by God, but let us continue to have ourselves in the eight zero and now yes, what happens is that today we have talked about the subject.

45:00 That' s why I remembered the popular Michell Michell, Yes, Real Madrid player, who caressed the Pio al Derrama at that time, in Valladolid, because the pantamino in the balls jajajajaja. That' s it, and I think that' s what happened there. I don' t think Marcus Turan graduated yesterday. I do not know if the term is correct, because it made Savich quite strong, who is a defender of Atlético de Madrid. It ' s just that the order was kind of sweet, but it' s just that it lasts if it was or if I wanted to take them home, as they compare them, the man passed it so that the bar didn ' t even take Mira out. There are gags here who got the Vitch who Mitchell went to before and now Savic h how he was going to take them. Yeah, it' s nice to wear that no, because like the Dragon ball Z, the ja balls wait three or not. You translated from Japanese to God or the plain. I want to use the translator said b balls has to if you have, if you want me to help the baby. Yeah, there' s kids, Grandpa, or read it.

46:22 I caught the balls being them so baby, very well giving us out of a man and most of the area in Venice the boats and a kicks when it hurts them, right, I do, seriously, yes, this not when football clear, well, yes, but well, then man asks how he' s doing well, he' s going to win what verey ahorita yessurum comes and we' re going to this peñon there, we' re here to get it hanging. I am. If you' re not afraid to ask or scary who. Who said fear. You make footprints and it ' s a fear you don' t, sir, take the quiché as when the President, because you suddenly tell him, don' t buy a ballot, you pita, what a ticket ay mate to the fuck. Yes, but if I was the ten of the selection, yes, the captain, what did we do history. I' m going to buy tickets, right, because how was the story with him. It was Michelle Mitchel, get him out, Michel Mitchel, man. I remember and I remember.

47:16 I was playing there and the man comes and gets me he grabbed my lies, yes, the sheath, Mr Jollie, he' s gonna take it to you. I liked them and I made him like that The older one pulled the chain forward. Yes, I told the man Yes, and that ' s what happened there, that' s what Juan Sebastián was saying here, and those who do that are pure fag hair or the Gabriel naga light of the houses is Caracol Radio. That' s the afternoon in the homeland, the earth life, I say Jack and the Jayan win pots, ask our questions or already tapa toquita until I arrive to ask two questions on YouTube.

48:07 Oh little duck, how' s it going and it and they put on the whole side of it was bread and I' m a lip, ma' am, we' re in Anesthesia today ducky. That' s why we' re a little early. It' s true, yes, sir, because it' s a hearing special where you can see it. Look what you can see online more news. We are on channel one hundred and seven thousand of the clear television we are with Giovanni Celis, the network director more news, but you can also see it on the YouTube channel of Caracol Radio. On the YouTube network channel more news on our social networks. There he is also without Anesthesia, already his staff ready. Not because we ' ll already be there because people in the countryside ask me it' s not worth how we can see it because of its mercepo to the yaidea. I' m telling you, Mr Gravielito. Yes, ma' am, you know it' s worth saying that these non- Anesthesia specials are the most viewed video formats on the caracos YouTube channel, but they' re leaving an increasingly high point. In grad we' ll see how it' s going to beat us with the next one and with the next one after who knows, who' s going to bring them cops. Oh, that' s good, smelling little orlandito to blend the tummy. How I do, then, missing him. But it' s not your fault. It' s not like yesterday this is long in the mechanic. Why you' re already all long on brakes yesterday, then, then there' s like a titanic. Then he was there yesterday, but his brakes were fixed. It ' s already a gravilito virus and gives it a little bass, a fever for the chinitos. It' s a wound and a barracks that doesn' t happen, that stays thirty- nine and a half and doesn' t go there. Yes, ma' am, a headache, a little discomfort, gomi to hide after and a little slacker. Stogam Yes, the already,

49:42 good truth. Yeah, it' s all because today' s game, oh, because tomorrow' s Friday. Yeah, listen up, little orland. How do we go with the figures of sale of housing that intends to reactivate the sector. They' re going well, what do they want to do and in very worrying duckfall. The figure of the result of housing in Colombia, which has shown a significant decrease in the first two months of this two thousand twenty- four, a contraction more than twenty- four percent according to the figures of Camacol. There is a prolonged period of contraction. Moreover, in the sale of housing of social interest since last year there is a downward trend, despite the programs of the national government to which they say that they have reactivated the issue of interest rates, since today President Gustavo Petro Patarita referred to the issue and pointed out responsibility for the issue to the high interest rates maintained by the Bank of the Republic. It' s certainly a factor, not the only one. It is a factor that I was going to say I have double unemployment, already moving away from a single digit of the nine that we came to have. Unemployment is growing and, moreover, there is precisely no movement of construction that does not generate employment and imprisonment.

51:00 This happens to you. But Gabriel also ran out of programs that were key. Let' s say that at least the previous administration, which were above all the subsidies for strata three and four that allowed at that average level, were more accurate. Let' s say the balance acquire own housing and also dynamize the sector. Another problem that Gabriel faced in the midst of the increase in inputs due to the war between Russia and Ukraine, led to an increase in housing costs as well and, of course, triggered the price of housing. For the President of Gustavo Petro has again called on the Bank of the Republic to reconsider the issue of the interest rate in order to energize the economy and specifically this sector of the construction and sale of houses. The reduction of those rates, says the President, benefit and this sector that is crucial not only to increase the total number of homes, but, as you said, to improve employment issues in areas that require, of course, a lot of labour force. The construction of houses is vital for the generation of employment and there too the Bank of the Republic is required. But also that the government reconsiders those programs that have in this increase to boost the window of houses thanks to an incredible Orlandito of Don Granito. As it all goes down, it goes into chains. This is how employment is realized, well, tourism, people to good. The next question, Pano melquisedector re Atojito, how well will it be as we go. We' re doing well, but I

52:31 can' t imagine if Don Rodolfo Hernández was in office, because now he ' s convicted of corruption, like the joeda. Yes, Patojita, the sense of condemnation was known this afternoon, true against and with sad news that we regret because with tears in his eyes he said he has terminal cancer. Rodolfo Hernández is yes, the prompt recovery, i e, not validated with the exactly, but how sad? Yeah? Yeah, well, there' s no news that has to do with it, and it' s got to be cool. Unfortunately, in the midst of this, there is the announcement by the judge of a sentencing centre for the offence of undue interest in the conclusion of contracts. This offence, according to the Criminal Code, is punishable by imprisonment for between five and eighteen years. The judge, at a forthcoming hearing, will announce the penalty to be paid by the former Mayor of Bucaramanga and former presidential candidate. According to the elements that the judge considers are forceful, There was an interest of the then mayor, Rodolfo Hernández and his son Luis Carlos, in a process of a garbage contract with the firm Vitalogic.

53:38 Behind that, according to the criminal investigations, there was the intention to generate later a large contract of more than 300 billion pesos to operate garbage in the capital of the department of Santander. This process began right in the middle of the presidential campaign, at least the trial stage. Sir Rodolfo would have been elected President, this would have reached the Indictment Commission and we do not know what would have happened, because he forgot that nothing happened. In general, the presidents enjoy historical impunity. Anyone who is President becomes with a huge shell provided by the national legal system. In this case, he was brought before an ordinary judge and, therefore, we will be awaiting that sentence which is pronounced that, of course, he will have the right to peel.

54:30 This is the first instance. Anyway, in addition to his serious illness he revealed today. Well, there were signs in that direction for several months now, but today he directly told it terminal cancer, tears crying in the middle of the audience. This means that Rodolfo Hernández ends his political career in a very sad way, both for that personal episode and for one convicted of corruption which, in this case, I insist is of first instance. It is not yet firm and we will surely have it again in court hearings. Then, thank you two thousand. I' d like two little engravings on the glass, well, sir, a little bit of humor. More like the crazy old roadie, drama jaba, sir, don' t make us cry in what energy ok then I prayed practically for the mood pamenino. Thank you, not because, anyway, we' re grateful what a perezo is screaming here. Man would' ve saved Bean' s man' s scream my duffel me, I miss him, Gabriel, he can. He' s already in Medellin' s studio. How are you doing? He' s happy because I know. Fin, yes, yes, but good anyway, but the little country so listen to him already and I think he' s super, super, super in love with the mood. It goes well, Yes, Medellín eating, but today I did something I had never done,

56:05 never that hears how scrambled brevas with Arequipa, but we also asked for another dessert that was curdled with the side, then I also threw it. He would also throw away the Arequipa, throw melado at the team and say this team is not so sweet, but throw it at me. Wild good, that' s the name of the place. There' s no salt There ' s no salt There' s no salt There' s no salt. I don' t know what you' re saying to them, I don ' t know, but here you let yourself be, making yourself eat your brews. Yes, mine, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, but yes or I did something that I never said weird gossip, lech threw the team on the side. Not if that already equips And because it comes with tests, i e, it is in diabetic coma in this yes bron stopped low with that if it did not give him headache, well or when the aurita married and did not want to eat kisses of has, not good, I do not have to bring him on appointment, but who ate it mel I wanted to to ton you call I have not eaten no.

57:07 No, not because no, no, no, no, because the brake length comes from like already quiet, quiet, whatever is right, what if you have to say is that you are recognized that you brought it. I don' t know about you today or on the way. They' re called just kisses. No, yeah, well, no, no, but we' re good at getting in the mouth. Well, give it a look, man, no, or we' ll each take it out in the box. Well, if you brought morro yes, sir ah a little bit, but well, yes, but well no pattern that as if no, no, not the truth no, I don' t have yes how to see it, but one has to be a this and I think it ' s not that you' re not hired by honest you' re not going to be part of but you shouldn' t necessarily value honesty, because today let' s say one find people honest to the pattern. There' s no more, there' s practically no more wa. I think you, when you sing with your group, charge for the concert. Yeah, sure It' s honest You' re gonna get paid for it or you ' re gonna be a guide, but if you follow me to see, yeah, then we' re gonna go with the lumo anyway. That' s thank you for us. That' s crime and it' s called stofah. Yeah, what' s the joke not, yeah, also to pray for singing from you too. No, no, I mean, they hurt the business laughingly who I am. Yeah. Then we call an artist to see you don' t hire him. Yeah, no fake weed you ' re that good welcome to our secret club. I see a lot of

58:39 new faces. I was worried about that bye. Señor en la Luciernaga, Colombia, country of regions ay bier Colombia country of region is a presentation of the Colombian Federation of Departments. We take a tour of Colombia to get to know first hand the good news of the regions. We started in the Guadiar and Colombian, because Gabriel, the governor Jason Rojas, will give the departure of more than four hundred athletes from different departments of the country that will participate in the twenty- first classic summer cycle of the department of Guaviare, maximum cycling event of this territory and that will take place on the sixteen and seventeen of March, delivering an award of more than fifty million pesos, very well from the Guaviare to the department of Valle Villar. What good news is Gabriel in the Cauca Valley. They are finally working to say goodbye to the drop - by- drop problem that also exists in all regions of the country and leaves even with threats, on many occasions with injuries. That is why those people who charge with this business from those who, because they ask in a moment of means. A special economic development fund is being created that regionals of the Cauca Valley are called Fonder Valle. And what the governor of the French good seeks precisely is to offer a line of credit that is aimed at micro

1:00:13 - businesses small loans of up to four minimum wages. We are talking about about about five million 200 thousand pesos and another line to medium- sized entrepreneurs with loans of up to forty minimum wages because that valley will have an initial capital of eighteen billion pesos. It will also be operated by the Financial Institute of Valle Development, so you have a guarantee there of good administration that you will not break your legs for charging you that silver and, above all, you will have good faith and good will in the entrepreneurs in Valle del Cauca. Man, let' s go north to Sucre' s apartment, the KIC of what' s going on there. In Sucre, like most departments in the Caribbean, they remain concerned about energy tariffs. They made an energy summit right from the Caribbean in Sincelejo, in the capital of Sucre. The governors of the region and other leaders participated with the Minister of Mines, Andrés Camacho, looking, as has been said to adjust the Tarife and that the users do not assume the losses and investments made by the two operating companies, Aire and Afinia. One of the advances was to strengthen the formation of energy communities to benefit populations that have difficulty paying for the service. These energy communities are focused on generating their own energy, especially photovoltaic or solar energy, and therefore reduce consumption in terms of Tarifa and eventually, in the long term, stop relying on electric energy. Well, and we' re leaving for the

1:01:45 Quindío Department, because there was a historic meeting between the Quindío Government' s working teams and the Armenian Mayor' s Office, which is good that they work in line. They will prioritize various initiatives that help boost regional development, such as the reactivation of Guayacanes Avenue, construction of the departmental library, among other important works. It is planned to invest, in addition to resources from the General System of Regalías, to improve sports spaces to recover the Colosseum of the Homeland. They are songs that reflect a commitment to meet the needs of the population and contribute to the progress of the Quindío Department and also the city of Armenia. And we' re leaving for the Nariño Department. If there is one thing that makes us laugh that makes us laugh, it is the pasty humor, the humor of the Narian people, with its sixty- four municipalities, a little humor from there. Finally, finally, what on here and who do you know a backpack. What good things, sir, you ' re already coming without Anesthesia with Ramon Yessuruma here at the Lucierra, the president of the Colombian Football Federation. There are also the most news network cameras from up to Giovanni Celis, also that accompanies us on Giovanni' s day, there are already people row news. All hope that he will do these, Mr All important of Don Ramón Yesun, like that he is the President of the Colombian Football Federation, which rules the destinies and represents the country before FIFA, or he moves the cables of the Federation practically and what name the barito that thing is not good to see depends because that is the one of

1:03:15 major and the arbitration commission that has the arpicoso and is of Ramón Youurin. If we are wrong, we forgive ourselves to be braved because not good, Mr Don Gravielito, cordial, to be fought all the following, all shady. That' s where you' re missing. I imagined that once a gentleman went there in a neighborhood, but a poor neighborhood, to say the least, to a marginal neighborhood. In the end he won the Urginite alboteria. Well, what a thing I didn' t have. I can' t say the name, but initials b a l or te Baloto Sega won the ay but don' t say which espo. Everyone is going to start asking for silver to lend seven billion pesos. He earned less what they took from him. The taxes left him two hundred million. They don' t cost you 37 billion poles. He won the lottery. I didn' t tell myself the year thirty- seven thousand pesos. That' s where they got there. The news like that, Jorge Alfredo and ran to the meadow.

1:04:11 Mr Te, they' re half- loved. Also, Mr Don To, you' re in trouble. That' s what he told her. Well, yes, yes, I jor, Alfredo Blach year on which I heard. Nobody listens to him, but he speaks jus, nobody listens to him. So, true to hear. Well, ay comfy, Jorge Albrudo. Let' s go live here Ana and then also Gustavo Gomez I used to tell Calderón. We' re going to the site and the events at this hour and it' s a cloud of journalists who hadn' t said it before. Don' t keep it up, jos the fall also throws lodina and the one ora. So, fire of meditations. Yes, gentlemen, with tears in the eyes at the scene it was from before. Well, then many journalists there where the lord of a marginal neighborhood who had earned thirty- seven billion pesos. He wants cac and then he got there and the journalists got there and a planned one. How we' re not live at this hour for the half- day news of Caracol Radio. We ' d like to ask you, sir, what' s the name of this deck? My name is O González Mono. Yeah, well, Daleo fortunet, called the old, lucky torto. That' s why he won the tea, because it wouldn' t be unfortunate for Tunato Rico. How much you' ve just won. You just won me thirty and yes, up to a billion steps in the lottery. No chila felitations, no chichi.

1:05:36 Sure, man, don Rico is sold. I don' t know in studies if there are any questions and well, yes, the question for Don Fortunato Rico is what it' s going to be with so much money, what' s going to be his first decision right now or tomorrow. So he said, thank you journalist Diana Calderón, for that important question since study first question important that they ask me in this what good, yes, and what will be my decision with so much money that I have. Yeah, well, starting tomorrow, in my neighborhood, you won' t see a single poor house in my neighborhood, you don' t know, but you don' t go, you don' t go radio, you don ' t go crazy. That bothers the dimples if we' re reproducing what the party was like, because the lord, in a marginal neighborhood he robs himself thirty and zero neither does he chinta. Now, r thirty- seven thousand, don' t remember what' s the first thing that' s going to be tomorrow, what' s going to happen I say tomorrow, you won' t see in my neighborhood, I say in my neighborhood and around me you won' t see a single poor house, but why is it going to remodel the neighborhood, it' s going to give plate to its neighbors. He said I' m not going to change low bye.

1:07:09 Sir, it' s already been said by Anesthesia Colombia, Country of Regions, a presentation by the National Federation of Departments. Carlis Gardyk Ramón Monja is one of the presidents of the Colombian Football Federation. Yeah, yeah, yeah, then it starts. Yeah, we' re going without anesthesia. We are already on the net with more news channel one hundred and seven thousand of the television of clear and we are on all our social networks, on the YouTube channel, on the network more news of Caracol and here, on the Lucia Renga of Caracol Radio. So, ask him as a costaño because he left a barranguía. No, then, why do we have to talk about the poochs as coastals. Every time we talk to a costaño or we get there, yes, we confuse them and we think we talk costaño. I mean, it' s a good time at six and five. Uh- huh, ask me, a scllamide, more welcome to the Gayarred Firehouse, more news, how are you guys Hello Monkey or cough. All right, sir, how you doing. We' re doing great. Greetings. He sent you as usual. No. Don' t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? And thank you very much. We are with Ramon, Yesurum, who is our guest character here in us, Ramon and me what a pleasure to hear you again. We don' t go to the balls that if they have news today for us here there' s always new news. Everything asks ready whores, how that in the Federation that at this moment what routes are, that have the routes all are directed to prepare our elections, to fortify our professional and amateur championships and to give you

1:08:44 congratulations of the country. Because if there is a plethoraous year in events with selections, Colombia, this year two thousand twenty- four blon soon when it is, you will not be beaten. James' question is that if sometimes the criticisms of arbitration are null, that' s a zero criticism and you also went out to defend Colombia' s arbitration. He said that, compared to the world' s arbitration, we have good arbitration in our country and the evidence is in sight. The other half' s gonna be a few weeks. The Conmebol, which is our most important interrector, had three important finals, which are the most important competitions after Copa América, the Copa Libertadora and the Copa Suramericana and the pro- Olympic Final of Football. And in two of these, Preolimpico and Copa Libertadores used Colombian terns. I say if our arbitration of Paul will summon us to events of the most importance that an entity such as the Conmebol has. Not that arbitration is good. What happens is that today, with the immense development of technology, mistakes are undressed.

1:10:01 But our arbitration is good. It' s good. It' s really good. Or you say, don' t look. He has already started to ask seriously what I was asking you is what you think has started to talk lately about fixing games in Colombian professional football. I know you' re Colombian Football Federation, but you' ve also been on the side of the state' s major club side. He' s been with Barranquilla Junior. We' ve got that ring of games in Colombia. Look. There is one aspect that is important to highlight. Here are illegal bets and legal bets, and there are legal betting companies that are absolutely out of this context.

1:10:49 They have nothing to do with what has happened, and there are some allegations that we are investigating. They have a lot of strength, they have a lot of reality, but they' re from people who, through illegal gambling, are trying to pollute football but we' re behind that with the prosecution, we' re behind that with the same clubs, with the same players, because that can' t happen in Colombia. And if it' s happening as I definitely think we' re going to check it out, we ' ll have to settle down. Or it' s a game. I like it not that if you of those who when asked, never cracked that if he speaks straw does not happen. If we talk to him the day they don' t, we' re dead. But I don' t quit. I don' t break that if I try to keep it from happening to me, that it doesn' t crack any better. No.

1:11:47 No, no, no? Don' t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? No, no, weird, you have to eat better things, you' ve pierced more forceful things for me. We' re not good. Or not, or what you said about the Minister. Don' t you? No, no? Don' t you? Don' t you? No, man you' re asking, but how old are you of Ramon, yesurum? I have the official or what I hide. Oh, quiet, falcao, I just turned seventy- one years old, just as long as you can be president of a Colombian football federation and you want to stay in that position for a long time. I' m depending on who chooses me. I have bosses.

1:12:36 I have seventy leaders who decide and they will, at a certain time, conclude whether or not my ability serves. And I' m thinking too, because I' m no longer a little hairy. Nor, for when the time comes, because one also has to know when the time comes to retire. For that you need a lot of wisdom, a lot of strength, but well, they' ll come. For the time being. I have a fixed period until August of two thousand twenty- six and one year, as it says plethora of this year and the next and twenty- six are the World Cup. No no, what comes from football and football and football, which is what the Colombian people like the most. I' m a birthdayr. I am a Sagittalian on November 30, or I know that if he is still paid in the Football Federation, that is, he said until two thousand twenty- two, there, yes, yes, yes, he is still being paid. Already Mitche to buy mye Pira for all that already. Thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you very much, Don Giovanni Celli, we have more news here. Here was Ramón yesu was a Joan Ramón. I want to ask, as a fan also because all Colombians also fled as fans Naters Giovanni and from which team is fan For low thing. The answer is called that there are millionaires of small blue heart make a good cup liberators. I' ll tell you what, I wish, I hope, it was me, Gabriel, who was very critical these days. Good name, we' re not disappointed. A little t will tell me about Professor Gamero. I' m quitting. That' s a three- way teacher say game earlier Giovanni, It' s too bad Professor

1:14:09 Gamero to see if the cameras here, Professor Gamero, how you doing we ' ll bring you to another section. He says he' s a Jesuit guy, a very good technician. Well, very grateful for what you' re saying come on, because he knows about half of what we have and the admiration, admiration, look that we have and mutual. If we' re working, you' re already saying it. Yeah, but we' ll make a Gold Freedom Cup, but we' ll talk right now, because the man chose it was technical or foreign. Well, that was it. We' re talking millionaires, bro, well, well, if we talk millionaires about good thinking. Love the Joovani and Johnni cel I made millionaire zincha, the millionaire fan. Yeah, I did, too, but Ionni was saying he didn' t have faith in us. No. We didn ' t get the van. They took the word Giovanni and he' s going to open the shirt first. And after that or Giovanni, yes, he asks yes, you and jovan when we will win something again and I ask him, because we have had generations of very high level. We were left with a Copa América that did not come to Argentina, which Brazil sent the substitute, and we are not as far from a country like Croatia, which was runner- up of the world. I sometimes think that that, beyond players and technicians, is a business plan to become the first. I dream that Colombia can be champion of the world you, as you see it Ramón, when we are going to raise again a Cup as we deserve it, as this selection deserves, which is of my opinion, of absolute first world level. I fully agree with you. I think we' re very close to them. We' re working. I believe and I' ve come to say it. We always used the last twenty or twenty- five years when we wanted to build football and built it and achieved important things like

1:15:40 going back to the worlds, like making good worlds, like making games. Here we have not yet digested Argentina' s five zero, which I believe that and I say all about suddenly was more the damage that made us than the profit, because we stayed sleeping in that auriola. But I think we ' re here, we' re close to them. What we lack is our concentration, our mental preparation and our players are already changing in that sense. We have a current technical body that also works on it and believe me we are much closer than, far from achieving significantly a great world title in any genre or in any category of our football, Giovanni continues. You see the players drown in Barranquilla. You see that Barranquilla no longer has that ability to be a differential factor. The Colombians hang up there in Barranquilla. It will not be time to think, to take Barranquilla' s selection in some games, take her to Bogotá, take her to Medellín, take her to Cali, where the stadiums, as in Barranquillas, fill the bars, they are brave, they are faithful. And all of a sudden, today we have a factor that can help us, because the last time I saw there, the selection saw her very drowned. You' re a lawyer, too.

1:16:54 Me too Giovanni and I, I think you can' t be the slightest papaya And well, I think you can' t be And just with Barranquilla. Barranquilla has been a plethoraic city, friendly, historically dedicated to the selection. The great classifications of the worlds have been obtained there. We have also had a couple of setbacks in these classifications. But Barranquilla is the largest stadium in the country ravines It has a capacity of forty- seven thousand and peak people. If we are going to talk about, then not necessarily the economic part, but the largest number of Colombians can see their selection. Physiologically, it is clear and conclusive that the best place to play is Barranquilla.

1:17:35 That' s what the experts say, the doctors, the physiologists, the technicians, and the results are like that. But you talk to the players. You talk to the players of the selection star players. And everyone says they don' t change Barranquilla. Please don' t change Barranquilla. And besides, if there' s a city that wraps up the selection eight or nine days before a party, it' s the whole city, with the flags, the taxi drivers, the people, the people everywhere. You can ' t change to Barranquilla when you haven' t failed us on anyone. And besides, the authorities love us football everything we ask, do not hurt it then, today, in elimination, at least, Barranquilla, in these eliminations, continue doing the headquarters of the selections and Lorenzo also likes Barranquilla.

1:18:17 He loves it, not because the only one who is wearing jizo T- shirt red wine over there on the subway, but the n for omen, out there, for omen, for grandfather, for twist, for omen. Dommel wanted Torres, our journalist from the firefly and snail Radio, and here ' s Ramon Yesuloum. Mr Jasur, let' s get to the point. The episode of the resale of ballots for the World Cup of two thousand eighteen judicially has not been closed. There were some convicted people and recently some colleagues from the Voragide portal and colleague Alejandro Pino revived the issue and say the prosecution still has that in soaking. You have a criminal proceeding in place as alleged perpetrators of alleged crimes that have been committed with that resale of ballots and with the fixing for that contract that was granted at that time to companies whose directors ended up convicted by the justice system definitively and with capitals, and there is absolutely nothing in the prosecution that has anything to do with directors of the Colombian Football Federation on the subject of ticketing. There is an investigation, as you very well note, that is in progress, that is already in trial stage, stage of trial where the Federation, none of its members, after having investigated us and found out, finally within the wisdom and technique that they have, found that no director of the Federation neither you nor has anything to do with the issue of the famous ticketing. What we had was an administrative issue that invented for us the superintendence of you trade in a process that I think is still going on, but that is an administrative issue. But there

1:19:49 ' s absolutely nothing inside the criminal. It' s more to us he denounced. I don' t remember who is a gentleman who handles a subject and who network owes to citizen' s networks. When FIFA guey wol investigated us, we were all blushed by banks, property, anyway, all that kind of stuff. And two years ago, almost two years ago, the prosecution closed the case or filed, as the technicians say, because I am not a lawyer, because it did not find for any member of the executive crucito, any inconsistencies or anything that would allow the investigation to be opened and closed. In other words, today, today, there is absolutely no prosecution to me today, I have not been called once to the prosecution. In fact, I once asked why I wasn' t called. They tell me because you have nothing. Don' t ask me to call you, because if you don' t have anything, why are you going to ask?

1:20:36 I do not know that you are specialists in these subjects, that you have investigated that which came out on Sunday in a portal and pure fallacies, a title of bad faith And well, we are used to that. I' m here, I already have turtle shell, as they say, and I ' m used to it. A lot of people get hurt, a lot of people get angry that they say. He has nothing from the prosecution, because, as some journalists and some communicators promised that we were going to jail, that there was blood, that we never had to quit football. Nothing happened, because it didn' t have to happen. Because our conscience is calm and so we have demonstrated. They' ve generated now. Now, ah now, you have to because there are changes to the prosecutor and they ' re going to revive the issue. They don' t make up a bunch of paquitos, as we say in the purchase, terrible, but well, the truth bitter life. But I think those who accuse are suffering more and justly without proof, for no reason whatsoever. But, well, that ' s the human race. In many steps, in Colombia, in any case, there were some people condemned for that episode that I know today not condemned to anyone of ticke Chop and of them are they. I understand that ' s a final stage of judgment, but so far, as far as I' m aware. There were no bribes for that contract bribes How it was done ah because what they said or stayed with the business, they paid deaf, which I don' t know who they paid. That was another one of the gossips. That' s what they said in the middle, the one who came out the weekend, that exo and it turns out that we' re the ones who are suing are us for the people who told

1:22:10 us that we had received coima. That was the football official who came out and said that the super interesting evidence. Not others, no, we haven ' t been called for that. No one believed that kind of story. The technical specialists of the super intenet induitri and as that sanctioned you with eighteen scel million pesos of fines yes, and that fine was paid yes, sir you paid it out of your pocket or you paid it with silver from the equipment absolutely out of our pocket. It' s just that if you don ' t pay your illegal pockets, how much you paid, like, 300 million pesos, you' re in debt. I don' t think so. Not good. With the jingles I sold here today, it helps me good. Children are also part of football. She' s also excited not the baby like ah you don' t have to give it. We give him the change. As a journalist in we go with information, with hairy Lucierna Gaya network more news ahead this hairy. Good afternoon, you are Garriel, followed here without anesthesia with round monsourum Hello ran The mon How are you Thank you my one eighty- nine about twenty years ago. Yeah, I think I' m shrinking now, I' m in an eighty- eight or so, not anymore, but it' s a tiny little bit, but yes, yes, but that but, but it tends to go down, it tends under an inch that falls off once it shines, yeah, well, it' s not hear, not mon jasuroom really you like to play basketball, yeah, look, it' s paradoxical, unusual. I, as a sportsman, who was a sick athlete, was better at basketball,

1:23:42 with football as a player, because I don' t know what you ' re with Vasquez anymore. A few days ago, not a day, it' s not gonna be like a year and a half. I started playing and my knee was thundered. I mean, you' re crocan No. I' m not messing around. I wasn' t getting fat and to keep them from eating me, I said I don' t play with who I was playing with anymore, because I was playing with little kids. I' m the one who really thundered my knee. It was the doctor ' s. My say so far has nothing, but calm down good and your favorite asketball team. Yesterday they lost the Lakers, lost the Lakers and lost the hits, which are my favorite teams. They both lost and they ' re on the edge. Okay. There' s still a long way to go in NBA for the playoffs, but they' re there at the Tilinttilling both. If he follows baseball, so does Ramon, since he talks about himself. But that' s when they get to the playoffs, when they get to the finals in the NBA. If I' m a little more follower during the regular season and bet. Not me, I' m forbidden to bet. I can' t bet this one I bet you not or otherwise, because bulls or our code of ethics prevent us. But I love that people bet great, among other things, because betting companies are a great support for football. In this Colombian professional case. Well, football is a bad deal. Football depends, it depends like everything else, but it is that football is a difficult industry is. I get in there with what

1:25:13 the baby says, because sometimes it' s a basket of chickens, everyone crying, but nobody wants to leave, nobody wants to leave, but neither does anyone want to get there. Then, oh, they won' t let them fill up. No, no, if if they let themselves in and a lot of people have arrived, there are very new people. Football is an absolutely strange industry from an economic point of view, because I am going to extend a minute so that they do not despair. It' s the only business in the world where no one can win if you have a company of towels, microphones, lens downers, everyone can win. In football no or in professional sport not only wins one and the winner is the one who has many positions to have a year of idle profits. The others don ' t, and that' s part of the professional sport. That is why it is so important to have the issue of dispossession, the issue of fertilizers, the issue of the general context of multiplying revenues that do not necessarily derive from the outcome of a party. It is an absolutely different industry to all and well, that' s why we have and there are situations that you have to understand when a team enters an economic crisis and has not paid in the end. That' s why not everyone can be champions of any championship. They exist in sport. Well, I' m not going to ask you any more, because being tired Carris and Chile, but I' m going to make him a little copy. Say that Lindo is one that doesn' t touch him yet ro here you don' t have to do

1:26:45 anything relax. There is enjoyment, well, at one o' clock, at four o' clock and at eight o' clock, because if some leaders with no one to eat only some sponsorships that had port you want made tess than a hundred, but that reached panafincas, houses carts, also those poor leaders, full of rage and stress, suffering on tickets that come to them every month viaticos on each trip, that they want to make, they receive a talk. In addition to meeting you I' ll end up quietly selling players. It' s good for a lot of people. Each sale throws a few million also poor and bad leaders how they suffer each time with moneys on the table and with what is fair, perhaps so many. Extraordinary the last extraordinary copla of the most real that forgives me, Gabriel Hello, how about the President cordial greeting of delay that does not marvel. I' m arrived Paquinelli, the biggest thing this show' s got. Mr No, Mr Argentine, chroniclers and rosary or porteño, I don' t know what I' m telling you, there was always more with Boca the Seteño truth, because yes, but I was always more with Boca pote de Boca Grande by diego, not true. We' re talking to each other,

1:28:17 please, soccer connoisseurs, football experts. If I leave you, please interrupt, because you liked Mabocao River neither. Salutation from Rosario. Whether that' s how we' re talking about this one or look. I am one of the football fans that I cannot understand, but respect here everyone is fan in Spain, Blarza or Madrid, England, Liverpool or Marketer City, Boca, River, Boca or River. I' m from one team, the one who gave me a series, the one that gave me growth. Not me. I have seen Madrid and Barcelona games that sometimes I go to one and sometimes I go to the other, and Boca River equals one. I do the other thing of course, but I respect it, but I repeat no, I' m not well, not for that and but pretty blue shirt with yellow on it. Thank you if ta this shirt, I' ll leave it to her. Juan Román, Buen Romano, is a gift made. Besides, we are friends in intimate mos and the truth, but what I want to highlight and congratulate is also because not because Ramón has noticed.

1:29:10 You can go Ramón to the mind that we have dramas. You guys talk by your last names. Yeah, no, but we' ve been in several parrilities in Buenos Aires. Please have realized that the greatness of Colombian football has been thanks to us Argentines. No, sir, if we' re not exive, no, no crazy, I don' t say show, I did it in the number. I did it to see Adolfo Pedernera if you could, but he f the World Cup went well back. That ' s the first potosíphi world of sixty- two. Well, ah, well Marisco, so big, not the lith. Yeah, because he taught her how to kick more. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, all that four jue Carlos Salvador Bilardo. Yes, sir, you were in the qualifiers for Spain eighty- two. Yes, but here he is, but that' s why, but he was champion in Mexico eighty- six with Argentina because he already had players. Seen clearly, of course is the great difference and preparation in Colombia served him much. Ah Well, look at the preparation of Colombia or true experience. No. No, no, he didn' t learn from Colombian football. Don' t look at what he' s saying, he came here to rehearse. Just like you, you' re learning the journalism that later came to José Nestor Peckerman. Yes you saw and after sixteen years and world- wide they hire pecker manchegan to the world and make the best world in history, reaching quarterfinals. Please, Prof Peckerman, how are you doing? I' m happy rena good afternoon. I greet you and Dr. Hurum. A special greeting to the voice of others who should

1:30:43 not remember me. Yes, because we worked hard for the selection and had very good results. But tell them that strangers is a lie what. Yeah, because, especially when I' m looking at the account and I see what they' re paying me somewhere else, I' m the strangers. Well, yeah, not good. I was already leaving here, it worked out really well, yeah, right, quiet chest on this. I don ' t know why I feel like a knot in my throat and I don ' t have a tie. Yeah, and don' t think I feel like crying. But if I wanted to know or ask Chesurum for an explanation of my departure from the selection, I felt like a betrayal, as I say, I do not know whether to tell Ramon Chezuruno or Natalihumania of the house of the famous others. Not anything to see what, yes the truth.

1:31:42 I feel betrayed. Well, well, he' s gone. Thank you, Spido for spilling. How are you doing, kid here, no, but wait for you to wait for us to be at war, more news on my channel I think I' ll look like that so I' ll say something to see you hear the girl not Patricia teral j de blatío, the goddess of the whale to the pacioaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. No, man. We are talking about the fact that Pasquinelli also said that foreign technicians are the ones in the selection. And I said Gamero has to be the coach of the selection. And then Santrero you, I expressed you pa, you cheated, then you sponsored and then you didn' t, that yes, sir no, then when you already welcomed Nestor n This Lorenzo yes and started playing the selection and playing well, playing bacano, yes, the selection. Yeah, what I had to make clear. But for me, it' s necessary to give Gamero the chance at some point to prophesically. A Gamero has to talk Goalkeeper, Gamero is very young, Camero is six months younger than me to see very well who, but what is going on. Okay. Thank you, thank you, Ramón, for the praise and hypothestics that be a young tannic. I think so, yes, I think it' s nice.

1:32:57 And I think it' s nice. I know the opportunity is given some time, some time, at some point he gave you the opportunity, but the kid faked it to you when he told you that at first he was twisting me, he was trimming this field me and then he started supporting me, he started asking me to say no that the technician had to do me and he started supporting me and then it was all coming up to me. And what do we do with millionaires as millionaires to keep working. The Liberator Cup is coming. It' s a different tonado. Ramón gave him the Copa Libertadores. We' re already on the football spot to the death. My hernio was going to be you or not, you don' t know about football, Gabriel to see you we had football, yeah, you ' re a football manager. Not then. That' s why good and something else, I want to go back to the kid. Pibe, please, you don' t write live. I want to go back to get the sale out of him and I want to tell him that the Bogotans go to Metropolitan Stadium to support the selection, sweat the shirt too to scream.

1:33:48 Yeah, yeah, Colombia, yeah, yeah, there we hit with school, octopus, everybody. There we are. I haven' t seen him supporting. I' ve been there. I was there. Yes, Lord I have seen you there, yes, taking Helfin, taking the finest mad smile. If you don' t dad it' s not that I' m sobbing the pod right now he' s going to be asking for the ballot, well, for the Argentine Party all of a sudden, but he ' s asking for it for crazy Risa too. But you go there no more than to take selfix and not support the selection. I scream and raise the camisole. Yeah, why do you know you' re what pure faggot hair, gel name. So, man who goes when you to cartagena, man Johanni Celis, vol we go with the questions for Raya Ramón, already is a rayon already to see May a rayon golden ray for ay I leave dad already as you say, jo or someone good. I want to ask him about the girls, about the women' s selection. If we go to the letter, they have gone further runners- up in the world.

1:34:44 But why follow three steps below men when the female is going to be at the same level as the male, at the level of selection, of support, of accompaniment, of everything is deployed to see Joovanni. It is a thorny subject that, if not explained well, people treated it one of the misogenes that do not support female football. It is a football as a young company, very young, not in Colombia, in the world comes. I ' m going to give you these statistics and hopefully, when you explain them, you' ll take it. For good and nothing different. The Qatar World Cup was with thirty- two teams, thirty days of competition, an established format equal to that of Australia New Zealand, with the same thirty- two teams, the same format, the same number of matches and economic results.

1:35:33 The one was zero pesos and the World Cup gave six billion dollars of profit. That' s the difference. But there' s another new piece of information. I just got it this morning last year. He knows how much he added to the transfers of women' s football in the world. No, obviously, three million, three hundred thousand dollars are inside. You know how much male football was, eight billion dollars. So people have to understand now this is not a criticism. This is something you say normal, because this three million dollar thing didn' t exist. Any world that made FIFA the biggest was heavy losses. There isn' t anymore. Look We have, for example, in Colombia four years ago looking for sponsor and we have not found it. We haven' t found him. It doesn' t exist. I was playing because he' s the sponsor of all football, but we haven' t gotten a sponsor. And here everyone, when there was the debate of the world, they tore their clothes and everyone came out ho and promised to sponsor nothing and nothing seemed. The national government is giving an aid to the professional league of eight billion pesos, which is a good gesture, very well received. But in the world what I' m telling you is the same. Then you have to be calm and it' s not because it' s a little new. Sure. That' s why we have to climb slowly and people have to be patient. Look I ' m not going to live it, but in thirty forty- fifty years, suddenly they' re even and balanced. But you have to hope to climb the stairs calmly that all that will arrive. But the reality is that.

1:37:00 But we continue to support women' s football and what Giovanni says is true. They have given us enormous satisfactions. We have a female football potential in Colombia and a magnificent present. Good things come to us. We' re aiming for ends. We were in being sub world champions when no one expected anything at all. And we' re good. We' re doing fine. That' s never been done by men. That' s a big benefit, and most importantly, there' s a lot of women playing football. Today is over the taboo that they couldn' t play and that will greatly enrich the number of future players for our choices. I heard a rather bold idea of Faustino as shines from an exclusive forward preparer for the Colombia selection. You use that idea. We' d be pioneers in the world.

1:37:47 I think so. Don' t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? Me? Don' t you? Yovanni knows if some teams have him, even the Colombia selection of Professor Pekerman, who is here with us, had him Professor Camps for that, Professor Camp. Professor Camps was an in and out and when Professor Lorenzo requires someone specialized, we' ll look at him what but if you' re right, it' s not so common everywhere. But this current selection, these current selections of us, because except for the pro- Olympics that the truth left us very concerned. Anyway, we make goals in the Colombia team. Prozo Lorenzo, fortunately, is making goals and I hope he stays that way. Well, Joani, donme he wanted dector res, sir yasurun he' s the serious one. The program isn ' t the only one. I wonder if I don' t. The Dimayor is a private entity, right, the Colombian Federation are private entity, the FIJA is a private entity. Clubs in Colombia, or football teams or companies, are all private. One hundred percent. Why if all this business is private to Colombians, we have to continue subsidizing football through the construction or maintenance of public stadiums and public police security that is not paid for by clubs or organizations such as the largest in the Federation. Let' s see the quicd that the stadiums are state and we pay rent for them. It' s not on is free. Very stopped. Gentlemen, in Bogotá, opening the camp for a match in the schedule is worth seventy eighty million pesos for a match of my schedule with any team forgive me and how many reindeer there

1:39:19 were a rate depends if the team is going well, full is the stadium and if the team lost two three games often has to pay the same money and receives three four thousand people. How much it costs for the District to maintain that stadium, to remodel it, to have officials waiting for it to function in public services, and so on. I know it' s a stadium. It' s about the campsite. That stadium is totally despised because it was built sixty seventy years ago and it is very little what it is yearning for, why there is no and besides, they are thinking of an app disk for forty- five thousand people. It makes me laugh. That ' s good, and why don' t you make another forty- five thousand people the new campsite stadium and deal. But why don' t you cough up selection in Colombia. Never ask for selection Colombia, because it cannot be that the capital of the Republic in such a small stadium, when Lima has four stadiums of sixty thousand people. I am putting in Lima for an example that I hope is another example. I' m not taking back what the police say. That' s a constitutional duty. It' s an article or a question. It' s a private business. The Constitution doesn ' t tell you it' s public private. I can' t do a concert and ask the police to send me police, if they' re going to tell me no, because that' s a private business of a musical concert, because football, which is a private business, must have police paid for, because if there' s no police, with the crime in this country and with the serious issue of the bars of this country, we ' ll have no temptation to have police outside, but not inside, and that the quarrels are inside. Well, but that' s not organized responsibilities that guarantee they' re out there and there was no quarrel and this is the possibility of the organizers that. But the organizer, therefore, as he is responsible, asks the police so that nothing common sense happens, that the police remove it from the stadiums, measures that I announce it because they are

1:40:53 saying it and is gaining strength. That' s the day the cops take away the stadiums. I don' t want to be a bad omen, but the dead we' re going to have and football is going to end up in this pso sponde are the vasores. But why the organizers. The organizers. We don' t have a police force, we don' t have a revolver, we don' t have a ball, we don' t have a green uniform. Well, it' s already blue that inspires respect. Who will respect us to organize an expedition of private surveillance in Colombia. Private surveillance, that serves us for the behavior that we Colombians have. And that has to be very careful, because it would generate a very big violence and end the invited football and he generates more recreation in this country than something called football. They have never been able to have their own stadiums, as the sports car Cali has already done, or as happens in Argentina and so many countries of the world is being a private activity. Everyone has their stadium, no, but even if they have private activity, the Alcali stadium has to use the police as well, otherwise the same thing will happen.

1:41:48 The problem isn' t whether you have your scenario, you don' t have a problem of citizen behavior, of culture that we don' t have in Colombia. Look in Europe that we had the problems that we have in Colombia today very serious. They made a football law, anti- fame violence, and there were problems after they were fired and they were all imprisoned. Today, in any stadium in Europe say what I' m going to tell you, any stadium in Europe, in any position you have access to. If you were irresponsible to enter a playing field, who dares you, rot in jail as you do. That' s what we have to get to Colombia, that people have a culture of respect for the show. Football is a sport, it' s a game, you win or you lose.

1:42:31 But here we are today in a situation where many people with cracked homes, with problems of lack, of study, of health problems, lack are put on a soccer shirt and go out to commit crime that problem we will control. We teams don' t have how or suggest us, how we do it by buying stadiums, making new stadiums. Those shirts aren' t sold by the teams It' s your money. Those shirts have to answer for the consequences within the stadiums of the two SNS that then if I, if not in a person and is a cadise in the camiño corner from which I bought her the stable murder shirt, such a moment I know that that is the business. If that one doesn' t, no, no, the business isn' t that I put on the shirt and it' s so well known what three, forty- seven better it gets, better he finally gets here, finally Czech and Ngo here and who knows his backpack what it doesn' t bring so Colombian stone of calm leaders or greetings and congratulates the doctor. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, calm chan This is so, yes, of course and your cha and what guilt I speak hard in Luciana. They have to bring in more costaños. Yes, the joy of this country is coming from the cores that we are seeing nothing more. They brought Professor Gamero good and Pilla I also speak here I' m gold and at last we can bring the yuyo or junior so and we talk about Johnyon brother, no, but we don' t talk about another one anymore. But we need to talk about John by hand. And I had already told Joniar brother that. Now that

1:44:03 you haven' t all spoken to John we already have Professor Felipe Cabrales Felipe how he is welcome to the firefly. And now it' s very good afternoon for you to salu as special for all of us present in Medellina all the listeners who are our blood. Of course, to Ramón, yes of course he is a great friend, a person who came in the heart that we have shared enough and now he is part of our Caracol family. Welcome to our Caracol family. Thank you, Felipe, thank you now, Peter. This joke is a joke to all Don Gravieto, but it is that those Medellin who say that they do that are represented. He was next door. I wasn' t next door. The shirt. It' s not official, either, no, yeah, it' s a joke that that officer doesn' t have vima. Not the good one is or that Melchizedek likes that formula hove te. I' m worried because I should ask her to tell Camacho, the lady likes the joke, let' s ask her about Chipanto is my area. So you won' t think about it.

1:45:00 Let' s see if the Beauty Salon is open, because Melco likes to be combed. Here in the cello the name one good day in this joke intervenes in crazy laughter in the role of doctor Certain orrilos pedrito bra joke not free stone all and Directorate General graviel of the houses and Enrique, Government is asked. Enrique met the doctor of course that yes not very friends, yes, yes, friends uff musicalization, the listeners and mel that if in the makeup paper combs the carra for it will be musicalization. I Maria Histo heard Wani s there is regula squawking there and asked him in Cartagena. Yeah, yeah, yeah, a bruise the clock tower' s got us a good fuck. In Cartagena some yes, I mean, they' ve hit a good meal. I know why you came like this. Libreto since ah well, the cast is crazy laughter on the role of doctors. Yes, Pedreto, the first director of the Colombian Football Federation, the most outstanding, the greatest director of the Colombian Football Federation. Ramón Yesurún in the role of friend to friend who go hunting and go into the river. Well, yeah, and this one I say to you in the role of another special effects friend, Alessandro Montoya and Orlando Billiards Yes, one day two friends met in front of a stadium. Why that was their natural habitat, wearing T- shirts.

1:46:20 Yes, with T- shirts and the police who was paid to touch, to ask Melquecia' s pledge was good that if she already took her own police usually that way from there free hahahahaha. Well see to see man already effect of Mercedes stadium, one day two friends met on the outskirts of a stadium and decided that the next day they were going to go gual I make a walk in a river. Let' s hear it. That bouquet for a moment beats that about I' m going to buy ballot, that I' m going to Ramón, that of yours how it goes. All right, men, all right, ah güey, well hear me out why I don' t pay for it I' m not a train driver.

1:47:05 Yeah, it' s been a few minutes since I' ve seen it and it' s freaks. Well, I don' t like them reading no less, boy, why don' t we go out there tomorrow for a walk in the woods, in the river and all that does win the other by heat, very hot. Sure. The next day they left there were nature, birds, water, forest, parrots, they called themselves parrots. You were just making a cart He won' t see the other one He took the stone out of the dotor Ramn. Not anymore, Mr Borro, man, Ramón' s doctor, and that' s also good gen careful, Mr Donoro, to see no more, friend Ramón, since we ' re here, why don' t we get in the river for a while. You think, yes, look at that splendid river. He sends me to the delicious river a while ago. The water' s nice and fresh. It' s a net, I took off the pants and you Monan staked and they took off the pants to get in, but you said you' d only dropped a centimeter. Look, that' s what happened in the river. That happened in the river. Yeah, he told me I shrunk an inch and I grow up. Well, you' re gonna disappear now. You' ll see, man, that sheath being in the water, a snake passed by. Dr Ramón, not yes, over there,

1:48:40 in the river. In the river he bit him in the remaining centimeter, yes, in the sustainable car. He' s already bitten his invertebrate. Well that the friend right there called the doctor my god calm Ramón, Ramón complained very ay makes you Ramón that much, yes, much hurt Yes, Ramón complained, complained, gasped, gasped Ramón to the poxygen because yes he did lack oxygen and asked him to please, call him a doctor, said Ramón. Call a doctor, say please say urgent. Call an important doctor for an injection to neutralize the poison. Wait till you see what the doctor says to us Hello, Doctor monsalve. I had the doctor next door and he called him yes, yes, but he didn' t deserve to call me bad he showed me the sign is fine, if it' s from God, such that he doesn' t, and the doctor doesn' t have hands free. He probably called you He was with Corax Doctor.

1:50:01 It is. Imagine, because yesterday we were with Ramón there at the Real stadium and today we came here to the mountain for a walk and we got into the river with Pantaloneta and him with his centimeter and hanging. Imagine he ' s already quiet there. Imagine we got in the water and a snake bit him there in the other shot. The first thing to do is to stay calm and yes, I' m already calm. I do. Second, identify the affected area yes. Where I tell you in crotch two and the third suck the snake' s poison in the affected part with your mouth. Fuck me, I have to bend down and stop the poison yes, yes, right. Oh, good. Thank you, Doctor, thank you Doctor. That' s how the friend urgently arrived where Ramón, Ramón, Ramón, imagine that I already talked to the doctor and that he told you that you' re going to die and araceli from Cartagena. Question, I admire very much that courage you have for the office you have, because ungrateful in charge, the one you have for everything goes on duty. As you say. If today was your last day in the presidency of the Federation.

1:51:13 What a choice of life you' re taking, not the biggest. I think what you say, in short, is true. This is a very difficult task. Sometimes I complain I come to my house complaining and they answer me that you have to be answered, my lady and she tells me good and who is forcing you and you are absolutely right. But well this, someone has to assume it. The responsibility of football in Colombia is very large, very, very large. Everyone here knows about football, everyone knows about football and they know about football, because the truth is they know about football, because everyone has the right to say whatever they want. But not the day I leave, what I would like is for what has been built to continue to be built even more, because the truth is that we are a great sleeping power in world football. As everyone can say what they want, Orlando and our editor- in- chief of Caracol Radio. I also want to comment on something that was news yesterday with you Ramón. The T- shirt of the selection, Doctor Jesso not only the beautiful nura, or there aren' t many. It' s crazy. Don' t look at the passion for selection. We' re never gonna lose her. But the colors of the T- shirt and the design of the T- shirt have us worried about the fans of the selection. But you saw her physically, or you saw her in the paper. I didn' t see her physically.

1:52:29 It doesn' t look orange. That color has a ran has pedacia, it seems orange, piece a crack, but it is because they choose or as the sellers say, not orange orange as they would prefer res. I am waiting to see the visit, to see the physics, the flag of Colombia is mistress. I tell you the truth about the shirt is more beautiful in the history of the Federation, which have been very nice. This is the truth. Everyone loved it. They told me at three o' clock in the afternoon that the shops can' t fit people looking and looking at the shirt and buying it and coming back, because if they haven' t bought it, how they' re going to return it. But how does that design not come out, how do they prove it? And then those colors. That' s a handball process. That' s not a process we went back to the white average. That' s not an easy process. That' s specialist stuff. In Germany, where it is the headquarters of adidas and meetings with many people. With us, a t- shirt is not proof, he gets a pimp not ready. Not that one.

1:53:30 That has a process of six, seven or eight months before you authorize it and start producing it. But lately there' s been a lot of criticism on the shirts. But in this country, because that is the verb, the day we let ourselves be criticized in this country, because Colombia is over. We' re not happy criticizing here, we' re happy problemizing and we' re happy we' re going to continue like this. There ' s no chance it' s at least in the next two minutes, well, but I don' t know the least in the next three minutes, because we' ve already arrived with our Diana Calderón and they do. I am Diana Calderón and the debate is addressed by me a greeting to the listeners who listen to us while practicing sports such as surf, hockey, badminton, waterpolow or maybe practice extreme sports and expect severe report from the Muellon Sanchez and I am choir are pardoned about the practice of SAPPO, the yew, the cute mad laugh, you who plays everything have played toad, yes, you have already played it, but pattern today' s theme. The Colombia Team should stop playing the qualifiers only in Barranquilla. The panelists, the mayor of Bogotá, Carlos, Fernando Balán, Diana how you are health precer for you, for all the debate, the mayor of Medellín, Federico Gutiérrez.

1:54:50 Now what else, right or wrong, a greeting to Ramón Yesur, a president of the Colombian Football Federation, as he did well Tianita Dear one special greeting and what else, because if this is a meeting it is that he no longer lets speak. Sometimes then you know why I don' t let you speak no, because, as everything scares the Federation, here I am the boss is that here in this Bureau the debate and I direct it, we hear it. Okay. I think the Colombian team should also play in Medellin. Man why, because it is that the city with more titles, if you realize the last finals, there is always an Anti- Oqueño team or national, it is called Medellín. In addition, the average attendance at the state of Medellín is very high. The tourism Meginess synonym of tourism better said has to see me from Llín to see now Carlos Fernando Galán. Well, in Bogotá it must also be that of the Colombia team, because it is the capital of the country, the city with the most inhabitants and when I have had games of the selection in any category fills the stadium. People from all regions live here and that adds up to quite a doctor from Zurum already had the opportunity to listen to the mayors who answer what I love very much, who are absolutely right, but the headquarters of the Colombia Barranquilla team is not because you are from there. Look at that, don' t look, don' t look, don' t look. I was fucking Barranquillo. Barranquias scoured her 30 years ago when I wasn' t a bull of the S Lie. All the cities of the country have the right to parties, at least already bad choice, two señoris, but notice that Cali Bogotá meden have in the world sub twenty also aware, not welcome. We

1:56:25 are also pleased with the support given to us by Fico Edder and Mayor Gaitán for this World Cup. Suspended in front of us is not Galangala, I equip good, but won the dotor Carlos Fernando Galafuente and I also direct it here Lora of twenty. Thank you, Diana, we' re leaving. It' s already seven o' clock at night. In point, we managed to make a minute with high memories our journalist expert in sports. Al Cida is very good afternoon. We' re on the net with more news and the fireflies of Caracol Radio and ay the actor. It' s a very good afternoon. I tell you that today I am not thinking so much about sports, because for the two of the pure Colombian staff, already sports leader Pereira sees the league and thinks I am winning it very easily. I ' m sorry we were in that I was winning over you. Very easy.

1:57:14 How do you make Zuruga roof like that? Say he' s next? Go on, he' s next, Uy, the doctor, but he didn' t have us either. I didn' t have the contract with the purple fireflies on my dresses. I didn' t hurt the pod. So now if we' re handling the stunt and, on the other hand, given the situation of millionaires, the technician has been being pulled with everything. In the meantime, let' s watch the cameraman because if he leaves, the first thing he says is I won' t come back here, chen forgive us that we were going. I don' t come back here or I don' t, but not another one. Also ho man quiet and we were fine, man, we were fine, since you will see and we will take out melque sie calm and to diego, because well there is the issue of insecurity in the capital. You don' t know if I can get imitations or so originals anymore. I think I' m going to go on with the original because I didn' t like the imitations here between us. I' m sorry, I didn' t like the impressions very much. Ah no shit then you go down by gas, but we can stir and start. All right, let' s go quiet.

1:58:28 I' ll give them a hug in Cartagena. Thank you so much for joining all the network people. More news to Carolina Gomez also a hug gao a hug Ramon. Well, thanks to Johanna and a hug Ramón and her last minute to say goodbye to the Colombians who see us online. More news on Caracol Radio, on our YouTube channels. I was one of the great teachings my father left me, who was a wise man to me, telling the little girl, Ahorita, told me never to trust a human being who has no sense of humor. And it' s the wisest thing in the world. I congratulate him on having a sense of humor, freeing him from stress, freeing him from worry, freeing him from everything and, hopefully, we all act like this. I love it. I love it when people laugh and make jokes. That' s human maturity. Well, it happened in the Luciana gal network plus Ramon, yesuru