Sin Anestesia con Mauricio Lizcano

0:00 The light. Despite this yes, Gabriel de las casas, is charge lightning good character of the day, Don Orlando villar happy afternoon for you from the beginning of that ma Yesterday we had program, that is to say it is not beginning of week for us, but for the rest of the Colombians. How are we billiards character of the day, Gabriel, How are you how about weekend, the listeners of the Caracol Radio look. Yes, I feel like five million pesos poorer, because, Gabriel, all Colombians five billion pesos, the mediovadite that goes to the scandal of corruption within the national unit of risk management, undoubtedly, the character of the day, this fund that they created at the time, Gabriel, for the care of emergencies, to react precisely to seasons like those that we are living at this moment in the country, a strong rainy season, the emergencies that the two present to take care of the tracks, the projects and so on, a fund that is not under the magnifying glass of law eighty, so that they can hire and that was objectively yes, without the usual procedures being done, but that emergencies really were attended, because a fund that Gabriel has used to steal is said by the Comptroller General of the Republic, who warns that five trillion pesos are or would have irregularities, would have been lost in the last four years. We ' re not just talking about Gustavo Petro' s administration. We are also

1:36 talking about the administration between former President Iván Duque, but also other administrations, such as Juan Manuel Santos, in which irregularities were also presented with the hiring of risk management. It became a bottomless barrel that everyone' s taken out of. Silver See also, Gabriel silver for the poorest, water projects in Guajira, projects to bring community pots to co, projects for roads and infrastructure, schools and children in Boyacá and Bolívar. We are talking about the silver of the most vulnerable populations in the country. No, but they' re grieving. Who gave me this gentleman friend, he' s not everyone' s friend with me the wrong ticket. I plant for clarne the stolen whore.

2:23 What a candidate for the Lucierna, No, Mr No, how clear a good afternoon. First of all to special greetings to all, Mr Carmelo Hurtado, Silver, Mr Hurtado, First, we are not in elections. Second, the hallucinated woman has no candidate. Third, I mean, you don' t have to get into the recordings and the programs of the Lucierna. Man. Gabrielito, Gabrielito, makes me laugh at those things he' s dating, but look, this is square. Yeah. Gabriel had already talked to pipe about my admission to the Juan Pepe program today It' s a topic with pipe. Our goat president not how it happens to him. Not to see no, sir special greetings for everything or sit me down here, but my name will be heard and it is impossible that I take so much lie this type of lie with him. Yes, and I greet Caracol ' s family who is our blood denying the pipe as we had left.

3:09 It' s okay. I have nothing to see. Well, Gabriel, precisely because I' m here, I' m not campaigning, Gabriel, right now I' m coming to talk to you to make a better appreciation of what you were talking about, about whether you give precisions to have vague not my appreciations. Tell me, please, because I' m talking about my appreciations. Then you already have. That' s why, Gabriel, you realize that' s the problem with the ignorant. They don' t listen to coughs. They always start talking. Just like that in hotel charge. Precisely, Garita is laughing to Carmelo, there I am hearing you, you are laughing that weapons you open it yes, they stop laughing at people who start to shoot ideas without even not seeing you know are your appreciations that exaggerate. I don' t have him laughing there anymore, Gabriel, ah, yeah, yeah, laugh two, a serious thing. Please, sá mada let him speak to Mr Carmelo. Now we' re out of the man. Hey. That' s why you don' t get hired by Bessoli, because Gabriel was listening here to my new advisor ordling billiards what you ' re doing would be billiards not, but it' s coming out for good. Computer. No, no, no, no, that' s sor tere You' re out and praying And if you keep like this, we' re gonna give you a bigger computer. Yet. No yes, yes, this here of pigarri is not again the Fisher Price of haja business or there is no good. He has no animal, you have letters and

4:43 with little animal he does not forget us children, ha clear veil hotels that he is man of macer. Hear this one more to see. We' re talking about five million pesos that have been lost. Men, five billion who were of the poor. Yes, but man, those five billion pesos that many say dis have been lost in corruption, risk management. That' s a lie theory, it' s a palatial. They' re opposition lies, Gabía, and I' ll tell you what. These, in addition to five million pesos, have simply been invested in the scaffolding of democracy as the support of institutions. No, it' s like very simple Gabriel, from the moment the elections are held, whatever it is, the candidates get indebted, many of the losers are committed, without where to be able to steal forgiveness, to be able to work Gabriel to see. Instead, the winners of the elections are blessed to be able to start managing contracts to pay for their sponsors. Blessing. Begin a blessing. It' s a blessing, Gabriel. It' s a blessing. That' s when the real party of democracy begins. Or what is wrong with helping those who help us? We don' t have theory, we don' t have involved, no, Gabriel, that' s five billion pesos as they are like tax reform ways that wash us every bit tersent those billions, gabrieles listen help me reactivate the economy, or then let' s be clear about that before they should thank us. I say good- bye, but this week I ' m coming back to keep stealing from you. Stealing the banister attention Carmel stolen, goodbye, Mr Carmelo, good spiny let' s return to the

6:15 subject and now yes, seriously we are talking and much of the petrism, not much of the petridism, petristic wineries on social networks are precisely talking about this and saying ah but they stole in the government of Santos, ah but much also in the government of Duque to see that they investigate them and that they bring them to all those who have stolen into prison, but also to those who have stolen in the government of Petro in which we are thorny. Good afternoon, Gabriel, Good afternoon, because look what I can tell you is that the counter- loar today has given a figure that is terrifying. What the Comptroller has said is that the irregularities in the last four years in the National Risk Management Unit is five billion pesos. It particularly says the counterlore in matters that had to do with the attention of the covid' s covid ' s coronavirus nineteen. In what petrism has tried to say on social networks, is that this shows that corruption in this entity did not start with Olmedo López and that it is in this government, in that of President Petro, when that rotten pot is being uncovered. Now what has to be said is that that is partly true. It is also true that even the Minister of the Interior has already counted, that it was he who received a call a message from President Petro at the time to appoint Olmedo López as director of the National Risk Management Unit, so it is the Government of President Petro that ends up naming the person who was behind him and so many others that we do not yet know, those names, behind those robberies, of that corruption scandal

7:46 that is probably the most serious that the petro government has faced so far And if it were not for the media, for the work that has been done in the media, we would not know anything about this. And during it this government would also have continued to steal those millions, billions of pesos from the national risk management unit. It must also be said that the counterlord has to prove that five million pesos were lost, but all indications point to the fact that, in fact, in recent years, in that unit that does not have that of eighty, which does not have a recruitment law, hundreds of billion pesos were stolen and everyone has to answer for that which happened in that nest of corruption. Well, Mr Five Million Little Ones, the more you' ll find. Let' s ask him to roll and practically the valley troubadour arrived and saved agales. There is very the worker of four years at risk. They hit the most raneada. The very happy corrupts are just pooping politicians, you pay porters hid simulus giving toe contracts and that' s what they care about Anyone who renogues soon is ready and critical. This has happened years ago and the mariachis have been made for this dance of these rocks

9:22 that enjoy leaving the country fucked and the people carried the pun have so much killed and the thirst noria have calmed and the water is very far away. It feels like shit, three, four, five, and this is five billion that these rats have taken on making a bone cell. It' s also the fault of the leaders who remember you and those who sell the stops votes, because they love to look at it and dress anything for political bandits and the readers and they treat the evils. Sounds like a good job. They' re drying up the rails. I wish, the ones who stole. Yes, the dotty already saw the change is more of the same that I hope that I am already know for the sake of this leather skin where the valley and they see four hours looking for my pa brought pain eggs to you the Lucien Gabriel of the houses is radio snail, My Lady Doña Pepita, how you are doing, how you are caray street I listen to you for life. I thought, ma' am Yes, sir, because I ' m going to snitch this cha. Mrs Welcome, how are you doing here with Espinosa? Well, look, it' s just, gabrielito, I' m worried because the dog' s sitting here in the living room and it' s wearing a little underpants. You shouldn' t let the dogs up in the rooms all the time. But that' s not the question. Don' t hold still worse Look and hear or say Espinosa.

10:56 I don' t know if the bitch gets upset, I mean, no, no, no, no, but well, look, it' s just that my Espinosa passport I' m gonna ask you this next one. Sometimes I do have earrings, several of you know that Mom soaks people very well, and I have several outstanding international trips and I' m worried about everything that' s going on with the passports. You know something about this spiny origin. Please, Mrs Pepita Good afternoon to the dog. Also look what I can tell you is the following. I would recommend that, in fact, if you have your passport coming to pass, you better go through that procedure, because we already know that in October you will finish the emergency contract that you gave to the firm Thomas Grecansons, which has it as I say, until October. From that moment on, there is still no clarity as to what is going to happen. The Chancellery of Luis Ilberto Murillo already has a plan that they are designing alongside the national printing press and a national strategic ally and another strategic wing that can be foreign. A Mexican firm has been much mentioned that this is just gras, but they have also been interested in France, Germany and other countries, including Canada. The other thing that has happened, Mrs Pepita, is that the magazine Cambio Sylvia Sharrie has produced a very complete report telling how a group of experts in hiring from the prosecution have concluded that in the process of tendering passports of the two thousand twenty- three, the same one that the Chancellor declared true today, former Chancellor Alvaro

12:28 Leiva, could violate the principle of equality and the law of public procurement. That means basically that, according to the opinion of these prosecutors, the lords of the Chancellery benefited the sole proponent, who was Thomas Gregansons. That, of course, does not change the fact that the Chancellor could have committed an excess, a prevarication when he decided, without having any legal reason to do so, to declare from a certain tender that Thomas Grecansons had already won and, so or that there is a lawsuit against the nation. But, in fact, according to the prosecution and this group of experts, there could have been a favor to that signature in this recruitment process. But yes, doña pepita, hurry up, I believe to get through, Mr Gachas, from thorny. I listen to you all my life, because I wake up with Gustavo Gomez and sleep with Santiago Rojas. What wonders do I take goodbye ana, old woman, crazy walk, ramajari Lord do not make us cry tear king. In what energy I always said practically like ok ok week is over pattern Tuesday yes, but call you from her practically that story, that story.

13:45 Look at all that is missing, not beautiful all what is called aya on Tuesday, June 4. Barely yes, yes, but June flies away, Pattern, because gically, because it starts to analyze and June fu and already comes July and memes of July and August, September fo and this happy year for all the parks already and that this two thousand twenty- five arrives loaded with many things. I support him. That' s why I got the music coming in loaded. But, as Christo says here from the Lucernea, what is said ay name to see that two friends were talking. Oh man, friends of whom ay man. Friends of them, oh man is imitating him. Yes, yes, oh about such very past of the two are the same old friends all the s Don' t notice pattern that one of them was Spanish. Don' t tell me that well, yes, one of them was from Begoña, no, I don' t know the truth, patn if she had any illness or something. No, bre coña is a mother' s name. Oh, yeah, no, no.

14:46 Yeah. Nor did I know how to say yes, but the other one was, because from here what Naño was was paysapes practically with her Spanish friend and she was kidding, Begoña, uh, no, not the truth. I don' t have the name" muelocito" you know if Mrs Begonia yes, no, no Begoña Begonia no, Begoña, oh, yes no. But I think in this case the lady didn' t see that. Ah ok ha ha ha ha ha ha? Noele to see haja. Then they are talking to the two friends, friends of whom friends of them and tells her, Come aunt, because that was the Spanish one. Not in case the chews hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha and it was the. I think I' ve got that pronunciation cleared up. He better clarify yes, that there is such a hyspanist that that is Spanish. No yes, that' s like when you arrived on October thirty- one, a bet and it' s up to you to explain the costume so there they already died. Yeah, that was the Spanish one. It' s worth it. Yes, yes, you ' re being dazzled, because come on, A is a lady. Yes, she was a lady, but she talks like a cosine. Unsolved with the cry. It' s a cla and how it was viennese. That ' s a Spanish lady. Yes, Spanish, ready, then say come, then come to Auntie. Yeah, well, come on, Auntie, I' ve put more on it. Yeah, it looks like Armenian.

16:12 Hahahahahahaha. I' m going to change, in fact, no, but finish that to see today. So come on aunt and what is it our corner is to corner. He feels more certain than good, Caesar, because how good he was talking, The bulls are over, but always good then look at everything little again good hahaha, well, come to t a deli to see man, he doesn' t have crying, but if right, man, uh, if he' s in my interrupt, then come on Aunt, how was your appointment and say no, because that yes the Colombian, which the first one was already the Colombian, no, no, no, this was the Spanish one. And how about the tucita, if your date' s been? But what does Auntie say, how was your date?

17:08 He tells me he doesn' t bring ay. Well, we went to a flamenco show site. It is spoken ay and even by the elbows which barracota reaches very bad, because bad goodbye sir that Abrie of the houses Cerco Radio, I teach Luciernaga in Caracol, Radio Bueno billiards Ay. Surprisingly the bill that was going to lower the salary of congressmen that goes ah but seems surprising to him. No, not real caught me by surprise. Not only did all the news come to you. I think we' ve given him ten years. Gabriel had bet it on the beach that that was going to happen. He didn' t lose a little silver there not for eleven you aba you see consecutively every year, Gabriel present this Congress, this project in the Congress of the Republic, where it is sought that the Congress itself will reduce its wages, because it sinks again. He doesn' t get the majorities in Congress fifteen votes in favor, fourteen against. In the first Committee of the House of Representatives it did not reach twenty- one votes that it needed for then Gabriel to make that reduction that several of the congressmen have repeated that it is trying to make. Several of them have said they are looking to support this project. But then, Gabriel, we' re on a stage where congressmen continue to win thirty- seven times as much. He

18:41 ' s just a standing Colombian. That' s going to be very difficult, because it' s the same thing we do. A proposal for us to lower the salary of the fireflies. We back her up. Gabriel, I don' t know if I have the necessary votes, but then I don' t know. It laughs what my children think, because everything is taken away from feeding to idea to you then not very complicated. But then JP Hernández dropped it precisely that he was very concerned about this bill. Let ' s connect with JP to see what' s going on, Poto, how' s ch Jp, how' s she doing because she' s mad. I' m the two digital that' s here on this number of six euros on Facebook. He pleases. Six thousand three hundred and twenty - seven, twenty- seven yes, yes, yes? YouTube Live, YouTube Live, six hundred forty- eight very pengla no numbers or more Instagram how many Instagram, ah yes, two thousand three hundred forty- nine, two thousand three hundred, fifty- one, fifty- one. He doesn ' t get it, but I' m super terrified. What I can ' t believe is that the House' s First Committee filed my bill and tried to reduce the salary of the congressmen. Yes, the project had fifteen votes in favour fourteen against, which obtained majorities. I needed my nine twenty - one votes to save myself Yeah, yeah, it' s last hour.

20:03 This is urgent. Yeah, well, well. I have the worst news, Gabriel, that came out of the spotlight of the House and I think you' re going to have to repeat this video. No. No, no, no, no, no, don' t come JP don ' t go, because I think he hit the stick also JP with a video he intended to show off with and they realized it wasn' t like that, that it was a fake video. See what Gabriel can be. I don' t know if fake, I don' t know if a montage, but if he uses some images besides taking from Salvador' s presidential command transmission, that' s true. JP. Nahie Book, take care of him by praying. Unbelieving lords, doubt my presence in the possession of my idol loop It is that I was there during the ceremony, as it was a little bit of assembly, people say already, but was not invited to the possession. It' s different. Yeah, of course everyone could be there. The space was like that of Bolivar Square, three out of a hundred thousand people. But what official sources of the Salvado government tell us and we count on the confidential ones of noon with Diana Calderón. He wasn ' t officially invited to the event, not day, but he wasn' t officially invited. No. No, no, no, but it wasn ' t assembly. I study there. No, but she made the video as if she had been officially invited to see it at the table and at the red mat gala and sneakers. On the contrary, Gabriel you know that it came into the world of everything, no, but that was a setup.

21:22 So, Gabriel look what happens is that you may have already said something, manifested yourself, if what we are told by sources from the JP Office have tried to talk to him. He has not wanted to pronounce himself until now on the subject, Gabriel, and very strange, besides with someone so media in networks and others who has not made a pronouncement on the topic. But they say that if the invitation came to them, but that it was not directly the Palace, but a deputy and another person who initially invited him to the ceremony and then took him to dinner. What they tell us, Gabriel, is that they even had to tell the Colombian senator that she was not officially invited to leave at the time she was about to enter the 11th.

22:03 I wasn' t invited. JP. It' s a fraud, that video wasn' t invited. Those journalists who would have been defusing and bringing things that are not invited or Jaga was, yes he was, but JP was not invited. Bye already dead. Goodbye, good afternoon to the film- maker Gabriel Andrés of the houses of Escobar. But there' s Alexandra Monto Arrega arroba ale Sandro Voto, journalist who complained to steal from me that if he has tempted him, I greet him from the officer Godon and in company of her buried, we will be telling them what is going on with the intestinal pathways along the sides of the attention. Greetings to the teachers of the magisterium. There' s a terrible travesty of attention. Like the one who says, they smashed what worked on purpose was buried. Now I take the temperature to see how hot it is here. I' ve got the thermometer ready for you to impress me with that mini mini mini thermometer that was a while ago. You know what melted down on you. No, I don' t show him the tremendous chirophone so he doesn' t get embarrassed around the sides. Those who circulate at the high price of fruits must move slowly so that they don' t see Daddy already officiates cotton. It ' s true that you don' t like zapote anymore, but you' re happy when your peach is broken. No, well, how much of the fruit is better. An hour I' ll check on that chirimoya to see how bruised it is and obstruct it and say non. A lot of patience is recommended to those who hope that from the prosecution finally give them a free way to investigations such as that of Nicholas and to Petro And you had once been buried has been imputed. No, sir, I' ve always

23:34 been in wey and those who go so close to the flood- affected areas are asked to have fireflies syntonize all those officer cotton. It is true that with or without rain you get wet to the Chamber ajay that letter to what amount of humor, what carnival of laughter, chascarrillos or that already already since you mentioned the canoe. Whenever I want, I' ll have her entertained here with the oar. If you want, I' ll lend it to you with eight l' s We talked to you about the office and cotton and I had it buried in remote chitting, from Girl around here with some shame. The Lucien Naga, Gabriel, of the houses is Radio snail.

24:15 Well, follow the look on Caracol Radio. Well, in this country we don' t get out of one. We have drought, we have water rationing in the city of Bogotá, but we have problems with winter in the country Billiar what is the problem where we have emergencies, because Gabriel, at this moment the emergencies are bigger, besides that they have to do with mobility, with the affectation that is being presented for hundreds of transporters has to do with the cross- section of Jusiana, the cross- section of SISGA and the sovereignty that connects the northeastern of the country. I am talking to you about the departments of Norte de Santander, Santander, of even I go Acá, with the eastern plains, Caquetá, Arauca and, of course, the department of Meta Uno notifico very large because due to the collapses, due to the heavy rains that have been recorded, they have been closed for several days with total closure these routes opens an alternate passage Gabriel and Cae another one of course in the morning of today, again another in the cross section of CISGA in the stretch of Macanal. And this has, of course, caused the transporters to have to divert to Bogotá in order to try to get through life to the plain by Villa Vicencio. So a very complex situation. But in addition to this, Gabriel Miren, the entire month of May, the report of the Risk Management Unit was reported. Three hundred and fifty emergencies in 27 departments, in Denmark, for example, six floods, thirty- eight landslides in twenty municipalities, as well as in Will A, Tolima and Meta.

25:45 The population affected at this time is estimated to be almost fifty zero families, thirteen people, unfortunately they have lost their lives, more than thirty injured, almost fifteen zero homes damaged and almost three hundred completely destroyed and the silver risk management to care for them. Well, that' s good, because this situation is getting more and more complicated. Let' s talk with our headland meteorologist, yes, let' s go with the climate report and the climax on the sides of those who expect even more rains to increase and near the reservoirs that supply Bogotá. A climate of uncertainty is foreshadowing, because we do not know whether or not we will be able to sing omen for my people and on the sides of the deficiency we need from the national government to have the tragedy of the floods in the moana. Winds loaded with fewer announcements and more facts are expected to blow. Wow I' m hot and about the peace we hope there will be in the stadium stands in the Colombian football finals.

26:53 It is expected that only winds of good behavior will blow. Who wants to misbehave with s o. I' m going to tan next to the pool who wants to join me? And up to here the state of the climate and the climate ex and that brings them the excitement of the meteorology in the firefly, in snail and a little humor to the old walk crazy laughter drama, r sir, it will not make us cry out king in what energy, what is called marcía, practically what ok not, like that for the humor, but that good humor. Thank you, sir, if you ' re in a good mood, uh, no, sir, but it ' s for you to come. No. No, no, but the pattern honesty looks. It' s not an honest job It' s a clear pros. I could have done it. Yes, yes, sir, and product, no, no, no, it' s true, no, but yes, no. That' s the idea comes out, the idea is, in fact, you' re waiting in the mood and now the hours start. I' m already surprised to see that they were talking two friends, friends of whom, friends of them. I' m not saying anything. Yeah, that' s what I think, and on TV and no friend of the other, you decided what you call a boomeran who doesn' t come back and say no, because call it whatever he wants, he' s not coming back. My bad, very bad. There

28:26 is no right to God. It' s very bad. A good one. I' m not going to lu Son. Gabriel of the houses is gaco rabio. It is in the afternoon the homeland, the land, I say jaca and already in his desire the questions work us, already covers little until he arrives to ask himself questions. Yes, the duckling, how are we doing my pa toquita, how are you, we' re on anesthesia today. Yeah, well, that' s no longer early, we' re scared if you' ve been scaring us lately here see two weeks in a row of Sian Estés and when there' s football, then you' re in too. So people get scared yesterday that there was a special, a holiday from before too. I' m not much fun. Juan We were. It' s that Juan of that, it' s that Juan Pachito Santos, it' s not that Pacho went out with one. It is the truth that it was very funny without Anesthesia, because, as we have already said, the Minister of TICKE, Mauricio luis Cano, with us today. Well gravielito, in that order of ideas, how would you say to claw your vague something a blessed thorny truth. How do you meet and at once ask her what the prosecutor said about our health system, duckling, how do you like to hear it, because duckling is that the Leap Ombudsman,

30:00 Carlos Camargo Assisi I say outgoing because he has resigned goes to academic work. He told the Constitutional Court that he believes that there are conditions for the unconstitutional state of affairs in the health sector to be declared in Colombia. What do you eat that with? The unconstitutional state of affairs is a form of decision that the Court takes when certain requirements are met to address a situation that is serious, for example, that there is a massive and frequent violation of the fundamental rights of a certain population. Health, of course, is a fundamental right and that this violation is not due to specific circumstances, but to general problems related to the failure of certain authorities to fulfil their legal and constitutional obligations. And Attorney General Margarita Cabello told her at the same time that she agrees, that she does not believe that the unconstitutional state of affairs has yet been reached, but that it would not be exotic if one could get there and added that today we see how large and systematic violations of the right to health of Colombians are occurring. The prosecutor, by the way, also believes that the structure of the system is disintegrating and insists on something that the atojita government does not like, and is that the resources that are turned for health, the famous, the famous unit of payment per capitation, is not enough and the debts of the government for maximum budgets and their adjustments have caused a word that has used patrimonial that, it says, is documented in the PSS.

31:30 It follows, of course, the differences in concepts between Prosecutor Margarita Cabello and the Government of President Petro. Thank you, Don Espinosita, your person being ethics has followed me well. Don Orlandito, Antojita billiards, how are you doing? I ask you once and for all what is the novel of the constituent and the possible re- election of President Petro, that he says no, that he does not want releat not yes, that he does not. No, because there against even three cabinet dic, what President Gustavo Petro says, which now insists and did during the weekend of an interview with Cambio magazine, ensuring, because he did not want re- election, but that if the constituent power is autonomous and has the discretion to call or not.

32:22 Well, today we have here last- minute snail on the x- count. I do not want to re- elect myself or think that a constituent is the right instrument yet, but I do not deny that it is a possibility in the future. Do me is he' s coming back, says the President. Those who criticize me re- elected themselves. I do not want to re- elect or believe that one constituent is the right instrument yet, but I do not deny that possibility. Oh, I don' t deny that possibility anymore. It' s not what it' s called in a future in gravelito right now. He does not re- elect himself right now, but he returns to throw injuries within another eight years and then he does, as he obviously does, when he looks legally right now is what the specialists have said. There is no feasibility, there is no legal possibility of a constituent assembly being made without transit through the Congress of the Republic.

33:14 That' s official. Now there is another area, which President Gustavo Petro is now trying to win, and it is at the international level, surely to try to demand that possibility from the international community. And there he was answering him in that audio we were listening to a moment ago, President Gustavo Petro to former President Juan Manuel Santos, who sent a letter to the United Nations, where he warns that no line within the peace agreement that was signed in the two thousand sixteen with the extinct grid of the FARK contains a possibility contrary to the current Constitution of the ninety- one, or some possibility that a constituent national assembly might be convened in another way. For there you heard President Petro' s reply that he told President Juan Manuel Santos that he did not read. What he signed that he was not studied, which lasted how many years a noble lex chancellor won him away It also tells him that former President Santos never read the peace agreement. And what former President Santos tells you, who tried diplomatically this morning with Gustavo Gómez not to enter into that controversy, but diplomatically told him come, you are committing some inaccuracies. There was a whole technical, legal, advisory team because it wasn' t just President Juan Manuel Santos, the peace delegates, the external and internal international advisers, even that I had the Gabriel Agreement and all the support of the United States, the European Union, Spanish international advisers from other countries was agreed, and now they didn' t read it to you. Don gray ay pa tojita,

34:44 let me hit a wallowing, then, but to the constituent of the Directorate of San Pedro evolved, because I tat bathe. So Colombia has to go to a national assembly. They constitute and the National Assembly constitute. It must transform the institutions that remain here not wait for your reelection. We' re being asked. The idea is not to give me, but it fills and speaks everywhere of constituent. More importance must be attached to it, more Romes of doctors, the healthtre form the transporters of insecurity, the confitutemic situ conteves I saw who saw that they are distractors, they are of rumors and

36:32 part desert. They give clarity those that pay with already and for which the naga light Gabriel of the houses is radio snail. I, sir, is that hand in hand, no, no, yes, the ship was already malletin. No. No, not well, all man starting week all in order. Ah, well, well, I' m here at the entrance of Ravi I am, but they won' t let me in, hey, no, but well, I go from Gabriel, brother, but they can' t go in my is that there' s no one and you can' t that with the doorman that marks me, that marks him, little gabrielito does me the favor. I' m not busy. All the air marks me cove for about six Monthito, no more because the return to me warmed me when law no, no, don' t pass them or

38:02 my cousins arrive and we are full at home. Ah let' s not make an open one with the cousins, but it' s not my head and you prime him too, but no. Then a problem is hot. Open me up I' m in bed I' m having a party tonight. No, please, get out of there It' s that you' re what you' re doing in my house, you' re not, Mr Monochila, or here to help me. Warm me up for six months, sun for six months and why. Because, curiously, the police are going to go check out an alarm thing and arrive in about 15 minutes over there. Ah how. That' s right, because they' re going to check out one thing about the alarms and cameras, that' s one thing Then, well, they' re going there, well, that' s where the yarton is, this way, well, but I' m going to stop the address come on. But no, sir, but let ' s see what' s going on, what' s going on, what' s going on, what' s the scare of so much hiding by weight and by dollar, because with this, of the increase in the seizure of substance whiteish in the form of Paul Bloids, we' ve got a lot of Traketonian partners running. I' d better not ask what acronyms meant. He understands me asota. That' s why you can, yeah.

39:19 The other thing is, I want you to name the panista. If you tell me what the country' s name is, you call it panita, yes, yes, yes, yes, but yes, no, but how so, so, that' s the alias called that or yes, because I have it here in the data and you say Wilson Orlando here. Yes, ma' am, that' s what you have then, but good, but what' s the news, man, no, how' s the country doing with the Comiso figures for these substances, and you' re right for the government to be breast- feeding the way it' s coming back, because look at the drug trafficking issue. Although the figures presented by at least the national Government and President liked petro fer a, seizures and others are increasing, as they are not felt in the economy. And that ' s where, somehow and as analysts say, this fight against drug trafficking begins to fail somehow. An analysis of Portfolio by our colleague RicardoÁvila shows that in the last year drug trafficking represented more than four percent of the country ' s gross domestic product. Or that' s a historic high. There is also a significant increase, because, if you compare it to two thousand eight, that figure was at a two point, three percent. For the two thousand thirteen, when they were supposed to have given significant results in the fight against drugs Colombia, that represents one point two percent of the economy, that is, that is, it is almost four times that number has increased.

40:47 In recent years, two hundred and thirty thousand hectares have been cultivated, more than one thousand seven hundred tons of cocaine have been produced, and that, together with other illegal activities, such as illegal gold mining, human trafficking, because there is an illegal economy in Colombia that also moves all the money that launders it. In addition, through different structures, both national and international, And what has made even transnational narco- trafficking groups, such as the Aragua Train, how the Mexican cartel, among others, reaches national territory, install and end up operating those illegal economies that are also sponsored by illegal armed groups. A whole vicious circle Gabriel that will not be over soon says at least this analysis published by Portfolio. Well, sir, not in the van today Send me the good Spanish. Well, he' s already God of the send bye- bye, sir Sports in radio snail. I am of the lion sebastian vargas, oh yes, no, how is life transformed, how was it to all? I am from Bogotá, and I want to support those for friends and anyone who was out of here and be already supporting them to support the local. Not I who don' t believe him, but why am I or or write those of the lion who blister the leopas.

42:19 Mr Director, what happened to you? Yeah, yeah, but I ' m from here. Then I' m from the leo. Congratulations to those of Santa Fe, but look for the present, present, present the whole union. I leave yes, Mrs Ordoñez, heading for the liberators twenty - seven years that we did not arrive, as it seemed a pity and it is the first of short tournaments and obviously, they have every right to celebrate the step to the final, live the day to day with the yellow shirt and wait for the matches. Obviously, and I' ve got a new uniform all in yellow. That sounds pretty good to me. Look into news before you play football. Yokovich' s not going. Problem with the right knee. He retires from Rock Langaros and after twenty years, a finale will have neither Jokovich, nor Rafa Nadal nor Roger Federer. On beaten land, which is clay, it is where this great Islam is being fulfilled in Paris and Nikiner, the Italian, is the new number one with his move to the semifinal. They announced it was a nice announcement. The match ended where he spends semifinals and the journalist or person of the atple communicates here starting next Monday was the new number one in the world at his twenty- two years of age. Thirty years ago, Colombia won the release Doffine that was called at the time with Martín Ramírez. Now it' s called Criterion one dophinea and stage three. Harold Tejada finished fifth and Santiago Vitrago sixth. This for the Colombians and, of course, tomorrow morning ten pending in Holt, seventy- four in Bogotá is going to be the draw of the sub- 20 World Cup. Colombia is going to be one. It will debut in

43:51 Bogotá on the thirty- first day of August and, obviously, we are all pending in Copa América mode. The ones we don' t have equipment. In the finals suddenly some already activated that chip twenty- eight players. Espina arrived, I say Santiago Arias Carlos Cuesta arrived and the twenty- eight are ready. Well, sir and Copa America, what about tomorrow the national team? I' m heading for Washington first friendly match on Saturday against the local team and then against Olivia. The fifteen in with Ericut owl with Eric no longer l k good man, ciibe goes to the spill, kid how goes the selection for the Cup America that is already leaving. Mr Bacanas, I see you bacana, yes, bacana. Prof Lorenzo Camel rig fiepe You wanted me to be a ustial gamero. I didn' t agree with Professor Lorenzo. You wanted me to be a gamero, and after that, Prof Lorenzo and there, half turn around, I' ll turn around for no, if I don' t, I recognize. I wanted to change it first, yes, I wanted to change it. Yeah, but ten wins the time of teacher. Then yes, later, at this moment supporting Lorenzo.

44:55 Very well it seems to me to support Lorenzo and I like cha I like that he has not allowed the journalists to get into the concentration, to take the players to cook everything from the hotel, to put him to cook, to put together his TV note. Players have to be on their own. Yeah, all right, journalists as well as sebastián if they stop being a faggot. No. No, no, no, no, no, and since we put the archer not that stage read the reporter passes the TV note. Don' t juda or so since that yes, I hope that the teacher Lorenzo and it' s already urun will bring a good distraction to the players like that I hired them the great laughloc wasn' t, yes, motivated perfe. No. I don' t know what that laugh beats them. What is swallowed honey. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha? That Abreel de las Casas is Radio helmet to the old lady, shirt the can dramas or we won' t be cried. Arrir Rey, Barrey, in what energy it then seemed practically and for the duck. That' s what two friends are talking about, friends of whom, friends of them, who tell you, friend of the other brother. Look at this. This applies to men or women as you see your cute, pretty or cute partner calling a thousand times and you

46:29 won' t even notice what he' s doing, it' s true. But call your partner Gorda once and they' ll never forget him, of course because elephants have a very good memory. Goodbye, no good, sir no, good- bye, Gabriel de las Casas is a radio chanco and does not teach in the Lucierna that in snail Radio Bueno Orlando Villar, how we are reforming. Now, then, and Gabriel, very tight in the times we are counting. The negative is going to be very brave. Here, therefore, Gabriel, is that there are twelve working days left. If you count exactly the days to which both the sessions in the committees and the plenary sessions in the Congress of the Republic can be cited, and in that space, Gabriel, you have to approve the pension reform that is in the fourth debate in the House of Representatives, which is such a video, it is perhaps one of the main concerns of the Government of President Gustavo Petro.

47:28 But in addition to the pension, the labor reform, the statutory education law, is at stake, which has been stuck there on account of some concerns that are beginning to present about this project. Implementation of agrarian and rural jurisdiction. Also the debt ceiling. Remember that it is another purpose and is to expand that box that the national government has so that it can have some more fluid budget money there. So the task is complicated. What is the greatest concern of the opposition and this, therefore, is what the national government is considering, are calling for emotions of censorship of the new strategy. One was to undo the chorus. They saw that they did not finally succeed, because if they succeed in taking one or two of the opposition to join and finally succeed in passing it, then now the strategy has been to summon the high officials of the state to political control. Look, there' s the Minister of Defence, the Minister of the Interior, the director of the Sthion Risk Unit, among others. There are five subpoenas at this time that the National Director of Intelligence may have placed him in a viluna five emotions of censorship that have to be given in this same legislature and that, of course, will cut the times. So a complex picture has the national government and as far as it reads the jam or what they have been questioning add to that the risk management investigations. Of course, I bribe the presidents of the House and the Senate who then question why the proceedings are continuing in the midst of that political panorama. Well, then, who has a lot of work to do, as always in reforms and legislative work, to the Minister of the

48:59 Interior, who arrives at our healing me this Galician lucherna healthyly directs Santiago Flojas, Let' s take a deep breath to be able to aspire to things or Doctor Santiago, how we go, what would have recovered us after that eliminated, but now, Gabriel, let' s always go forward, Gabriel, how are greetings to all the compañeros of Medellín, to the friends of Medellín, well, to all States, all very well. This I imagine that you also washed your hands not for the interview we are going to do this afternoon, because that is the subject and that is why I invited the Minister of an Interior, Luis Fernando Velasco. How are you doing with your hand washing, Minister Hello, Dr Floja, sorry to tell you, but who should be here should have been the former risk management director Olmedo Lopez, because it was he who first put the money in and now wants the aquaxe the leg Olmedo Thief is not so good. You can' t do it anymore. Now I just need to tell you how sarcastic lionel, I want you to do with whom I want to talk about handwashing, because like among ministers, you do nothing but pour the water, dirty me the truth water.

50:07 I don' t need to, because I' m always an expert at getting out clean and that' s already a number of governments that I ' ve put my hands in and better recommend something to improve my health. Doctor in the middle of so much, what do I do in my management pardon said management better go answer with irrigation management if you don' t have to leave right now. We' re practically asking for a tank car for whatever gets you here My program is better off because they' re not funny. Dr Loose at least give me a hard- fought crackdown. You can ' t. I share that view. Look. If your partner tells you there' s no magic in the relationship anymore, it' s because they ' re tricking him with another scabbard up here healthy talking to everyone. You shrink to God, sir to Ancient Way mad laughter tama, sir won' t make us cry arrirey what energy and what now was practically to see what not for humor, for tron. That' s more like it, but here it was all now, not me I almost died and he looked at me. I looked at it for a while, yes, but it' s why it' s been raining to j what' s also That' s why they' re talking to two friends, friends to whom friends, in fact, the same friends of all jokes. No, no, sir, friends are changing pattern and in fact, not all friends are friends with each other, but, because they are friends, but no, no, it doesn' t mean that this friend is also friends with the other joke, the other guy. Ah ok, they' re friends, well,

51:37 but these are friends of fact. All right, and I made you a friend and the other one didn' t, bro. I' m so afraid of this awful insecurity there is. But I' m so seriously afraid that the thieves will get in the house and I' ll set an alarm and at what early hours they get very early. What hahahahahahaha a hundred naga, Gabriel of the houses is snail radio well follows the Luciernaga on Caracol Radio already comes without Anesthesia. Mauricio Iscano, the STICK Minister, has arrived. Well before that, thorny until when there' s gonna be time to pay the half- year bonus, that is, they do crazy with the premiums and besides, they don' t just go crazy and like to look crazy with the ploj No, sir ever, but you' ve done it.

52:22 Not with other premiums, but with those, not with these. You cousin lasts little and forgets it, yes, m lasts little. It means you don' t spend it fast. Yeah, sure, we' re talking about the same cousin or some biological. Out there, no, no, no, no, no, it' s all from the front page of the ticket. We' re that half- years old. It' s not that you, you' re from the premium eat ever, but there are people who spend money in restaurants like crazy cata, no, no, I cousin or you go to and order a fruit salad where you rausch and there you are given yes or three hundred twenty- six thousand pesos. The small portion, The small yes, yes, the childish dish in the middle of a child, yes. Well, look at all three of you. The cousin, yes, here removing the prey, yes, yes, zero has prey. Look at the premium being paid in two instalments during the year, the first before June 30th, that is, they still have what is missing from this month until June 30th. From there, then, you will have a fine, a penalty and the second within the first twenty days of December. The premium is paid to all workers on formal contracts. Be it written or verbal. That is very important and, of course, the premium is calculated on the basis of the minimum wage that a person earns. Half of that salary is paid in June and the other half in December 30 June.

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55:09 is perfect for state officials to fly over the Colombian regions that have been damaged by the forest fires and here, since the thirty- two year fire, we will always accompany it. I love what you expect to enter our online egg portal, where you can buy everything you need and also what you don ' t need. The important thing is that you buy, buy and go back and buy until our sales catalog of the armazon portal you see the strange reality of building, the duciennega. Faithfully, Gabriel of the houses is Caracol Radio. Here we start without abespecia in the uncernague of Caracol Radio and network more where we have good are of today we also go out to ask questions about how is the interconnection, how is the connectivity. We have a thousand six hundred and twenty- five answers later in storytelling. Well, you guys are watching us on TV. Of course, they' re watching us through the Internet they' re listening to us through radio snails and everything comes together in every government. In the Mini what was the Ministry of Telecommunications, before it was mail and telegraphs, and today it is the Ministry of the Etic Mauricio Orizcano, is the Minister of latig Mauricio Mini, or I say Minister no Mauritius, Mauritius or welcome to go to the Lystensia, Mauritius, how Chas is. Thank you, Gabriel in a greeting to all the people who are here at the table and to all the listeners and teledients very good content

56:40 to be here, that is the importance precisely what I was saying I see us thanks to the fact that we have a wide and robust technology of TIXS that goes from television, from TDT, from submarine cables, from what is called backbonny. Having fiber optics all over the country. These are experts who call a transmedia. We' re in all the media, but not great what they' re doing. And thank you for the invitation. Well, we' ll talk about the stick. But I want to start talking to you, to a man, like any Colombian who has suffered from the violence of this country, how you feel. Well, you' ve been a representative, Senator Minister, but how you feel about being Colombian when your father was lying down. How was that moment of having a kidnapped father, of seeing him escape the guerrillas come out as you saw him, how I saw his family. No, because first it was the hardest time of my life.

57:31 Not only my dad was kidnapped for nine years, but also my brother, my brother was kidnapped for six months. My father was kidnapped by the Far on August 5, 2000 when I was still in college. I was finishing college. This was when we were in the Easter process. The President pastrans better for us to locate. And my dad' s been since I left, since I was in college until when my dad came back, he was a Senator of the Republic. It' s been nine years. They ' re a lifetime. Images a nine- year- old boy, everything that can happen. It was a very difficult time, especially when my brother who was kidnapped by the pl was kidnapped, and especially because of the interregnos that we had a lot of time without being tested for survival, two or three years could pass and then it was a very difficult time. But then, thank God, everything went well. In the end and my dad remember he was released by a guerrilla who blew himself up with him. He was not within the sane fit, but he flew away, walked three days and already graced. We' re all good in the family. What do you think of the peace agreements today? Mauritius. No. I believe it is clear that it is the same as an ordinary Colombian who has not lived, who has not been touched closely by the violence sometimes from the big cities.

58:45 We do not feel that, unless it touches us very close and you have lived it and today you are in the Government. But those of us who have lived the war, because that is a war to which violence has not moved, because we are aware of the value of peace. We do know what the value of peace and the victims in general is, that I do not speak a personal name. This is precisely why we accompany peace with the pharaohs. In our case, because I was President of Congress when the peace agreements were approved. It was up to me to lead as President of Congress, and one of the most important steps that my dad had to do with that was forgiveness. My dad made the decision to forgive those who kidnapped him. He said to keep hating them, it was to keep chained, it was to keep being kidnapped. He dedicated his life to forgiveness. A master ' s degree from Caldas University. He is a doctorate in forgiveness, at the University of Santiago de Compostela in Spain and led us all to forgive.

59:35 And really, I believe in peace. I supported him when I was President of Congress in Santos' government. We continue to support it now because, because it is the only way that we can have a living generation, that our children live what we did not have to live, because we have had how many years of internal conflict of war and we have not been able to have a single year in peace. So our dream is that our children can live in peace, that they don' t have to live what we had to see. Well, we got into it. One of our Lucierna characters, who is the Baby, but she likes to be treated as a journalist in these interviews. So let' s go with a little hair up ahead, pretty good afternoon hair. Of course we are, Gabriel, there we are with our guest Mauricio, straightening out my stick list Hello, Minister, O, how you doing Hello, how are you? I' m going to answer you with the hostuya no and I' m not getting into the paper Hello. How are you? But if you want, ah give him the Minister, well, well you, how you are the Minister of the Tink You. You have three children, right, I have three children, yes, Juan Emil, same Aleandro, well, she and they tell TV off a tiktok many times, especially my daughter, who liked the tiktoks very much. It' s time to control your children' s networks, because the good thing is that they would do it before they were fourteen years old.

1:00:58 But already inconstable, so I have to see from. My children are eleven years old, twins and my youngest son is eight years old. Well, and I' ve sent a bunch of cards, first to see if the Internet is fixed in the regions moons. And second, I sent them for four seventy- two. Adivin slightly ready. Sometimes they don' t get there and that' s what we can do. One for the Internet and two for the four of the seventy- two to reach. No, because we are making a great effort to improve the engagement in Colombia. Colombia, because everyone has a cell phone. There' s more cell phones than people. Cell phone coverage is high, about eighty- five percent, but Internet access is only sixty percent of Colombians have access to the Internet. The goal that we are working on and the effort that we are making from the government that and that with the development plan is to go from sixty to eighty - five percent, that that can put us say in the high- development countries and that is why we are making efforts to connect the peaceful, the guaira, etcetera. We have several strategies. Four seventy- two, for it is a vent. Four hundred and seventy- two is a company that is experiencing difficulty. Of the mail companies are experiencing difficulties all over the world have been changing. We have been capitalizing four hundred and seventy- two.

1:02:25 At least it' s working and we' re increasingly cutting down on both operational and personnel costs so that the company can get ahead. The goal is to achieve a balance by the end of this year. Arisco already in the last one it has a little bit of time is that we are already short of time. Example, it' s ready for one, four and eight. You feel nothing, always being the narrator of the cuenti ycuo. Ah well, no good. In the school of the Stick a girl who was very judicious with her duties until once the teacher decided to review the task and go surprise. This is what happened. Well, good afternoon, kids, let' s go over the homework and let' s start with you Baby bel who you' re like the vaquiteest in the course. I want to know if, just as I' m working, so are you. Oh profess li iscano, you' re going to believe it, but my mom says the city is very insecure. You know what. I think they stole my homework. No, no, no, see, Baby, you can ' t go out here with any of those excuses that sometimes even come out to my kids, which is that there' s no Internet access here, so that' s why they couldn' t do the homework. Yes, Professor Liscano, what happens is that it also affected them so much change.

1:03:47 For example, the neighbor changed the key in by line. WiFi keys are always complicated. I understand, baby, but why they weren' t using it in the house, because there wasn' t, and when she came back, she fell. And when the net fell again, for it was deceived, when the truth did not fall into the net. The one that fell was my mom over him and not with me it worked on purpose. To this I would like to ask Minister Viscano what it will be to bring the Internet to all schools and schools if one of the purposes we have from the Ministry is to connect all schools, if children in Colombia have the Internet, because they have a world of knowledge and we do not depend only on teachers, but on the whole world of knowledge. In that we solved the problem of the populated centers. When I arrived they were twenty- two percent.

1:04:43 We already have it in eighty- five percent. And it means that even though the money was lost and if it was stolen, it was our turn to see it put the project, we recovered it and today we are connecting 14, 000 schools. They' re digital centers today. These are digital centres, no more populated centres and digital centres. And besides that, we' re at the moment. The proposals to connect 3, 000 more schools were presented yesterday. We made a bid to connect 3, 000 more schools and we' re going to connect even with the government all schools. That was already a contract we made last year, that we are connecting one thousand one hundred seventy- two PD municipalities also all schools of the fish municipalities that is, in this government. The summary is going to end up connecting at the end of this year around 20, 000 schools, which is about half of all educational institutions. Colombia has fourteen zero schools, forty- two educational institutions. Half of them are going to be connected, but already some are connected. So I think at the end of the government we' re going to close three, seventy and eighty percent of all public schools, obviously public and private schools that forgive, public elementary and secondary schools that are going to end up connected at the end of the government. Well, baby, we' ll see you in the interiors together later. Well, Minister, you guys go on studying, follow him. You' ve studied. Thank you very much for nothing. We' re back here studying. We' re on the net with more news. Well, don Joanni Celis. Let ' s go ahead, Minister, we made an opinion sound between May thirty - one and June four of this year for the Firefly of Caracol Radio and

1:06:16 network more news. We had a thousand six hundred and twenty- five answers and you know they go very much in line with what you just told us at home. Internet service coverage is available. Yeah, sixty- three point two percent. The figure you said, as opposed to thirty- five point three percent. Whether the poll matches exactly what they' re going to do. I think he' s totally Aligerste have hired the service to have fixed in his home answered yes seventy- seven point four percent, not the twenty - one point three percent. Minister, I want to ask you the first question about the Telco sector. It is true, there is a lot of noise that there is a crisis in the Telco sector. This is so, isn' t it, and if so, what is the cause? What has happened to the Telco sector in the world is that the sector of the world has been reordered? What happens in the tel sector that a company that has less than thirty percent of users or the market is a company that does not make profits. That is more or less like the generality in the world are two or three companies that even have full competition with two or three companies.

1:07:21 In Colombia we have many more and we have a company, obviously that has fifty percent. What has happened for users, which is good is that one of the ones with the cheapest Internet prices, that is, the payment for only the cheapest in Latin America has Colombia, because the arpu that is the income per user, has fallen in Colombia in the last ten years sixty - seven percent, that is, we pay one of the cheapest services. But that means that in the sector there will be a reorganisation of the sector. Last year, I say, he had a problem, we got him back, we helped from the government. Today it is going to strike the final balance of the year, because of course, it is fine or to be, because it is a multinational that is also making a great effort and because obviously there were difficulties now. What we can say is that the sector is adjusting according to the market, and that is what is really happening in Colombia, it is with free competition and of supply and demand, because surely the market is re- accommodating. But the good news for Colombians that we continue to provide a good service, we have to improve in quality, We have to continue to provide good coverage. This If there are problems in some companies like the ones that BOM has at the moment, it is in bankruptcy law and that the price, if it has been greatly reduced the price for the users. And this rearrangement, we wait for it to end. But the investments, especially that we brought five g of the sector, are still huge. Between this and the other year they will invest more than one point

1:08:51 five billion pesos and in the next ten years two point eight billion pesos. That is to say, this is a sector that continues to bring much foreign investment and investment. More now that it is needed for a counter- cyclical policy for all Colombia in technology always investing and if you also invest the one that will arrive the most and that good that, as the minister says we have one of the lowest Internet services in Latin America, perhaps compared to Chile. If, Mr Minister, there is another sector that is under your protection and is that of public policy for radio and television, it turns out that advertisers are moving towards the digital, then there are there as some conatos of crisis, to put it in a way, that they have thought what the vision of MINTIC is for for law, plurality and that and that this can be compensated If within our sector we say that it is technology and communications that is weaker and it is necessary to say against objective communications, because, let us say that the big companies of let us say of Internet, for not to mention them, because they are carrying fifty percent of the pattern and in the world the companies that produce social networks and the other fifty percent, because it is remaining in what is called the traditional media. So what we have tried and continue to try is that in order to have a good democracy and to have a good citizenship, we must continue to maintain our idiosyncrasy. We cannot rely only on the platforms or we cannot depend on multinationals, because they do not take care of our culture, they do not take care of our

1:10:23 values and they do not inform the day of the Colombians. There' s what we' ve been trying to do. There is a great debate that is in the can today about whether they have to pay or not to say the telcos or they have to pay for them from the Internet that they use or from the contents that they are using, that many of those contents, because they are used by the calo operators, because it is a debate that we better not get involved, because there is a debate that is already in the can and there is a fight between the traditional media and the cable operators. Let' s hope to see what the KHAN resolves from the government, because we are trying to help what is most possible, because for the media to say traditional, although many have also become very strong in digital media, but not many have yet learned how to turn that economy to make it silver if the digital media has passed a lot, but it still does not produce them without monetizing them. The question I was thinking about was exactly very well then, but we are in that helping to see what can be done to maintain the country' s communications. Hey, my minister, we started a Maluma song with Hawaii VI. I didn' t ask him why he brought that song here. They always come with a song that you guys dance, you or I don' t have two songs that I like very much, decisions by Rubén Blades, yes and Hawaii because it was with that song that we met with my wife. Not because the story has to see if you can, be game if you don' t. By ah clear how or or decisions. I shouldn' t see the decisions, but of course not, because she explained the song to me. I wasn' t really very melomaniac until I got married, because my wife is, and then she explained

1:11:56 the song to me and the story of the song of what happened coy Ney Mary and maluma. So with the story of the song it was that I took more love for him and with that song it was that topic of conversation. And that' s where we start and that' s how it is to sing more or less mean. But I do my best schools. I was born na, so it is mejí, but I stayed in manizales, in quantity. But it' s land of trovas, land of o. Let' s go with our troubadores and invite you to trobar. Sir with this is yes look. There he is, there he is, there he is, there he is, there he is, there he laughs, mad kings of the trova. We' ve got there to let you know that so I' ve been led by Christ. Let' s do another, let' s do two trovas of example. Do as Liska today our wey people have this radio wave. Thus, the Minister to Colombia sends a good signal in the important positions occupied. That shows that the Lyscan has good connections.

1:13:03 Well now and it' s your turn, doctor, smart, good honest. I' ve got a long antenna, already poorly directed. It touches me, it has the antenna very large, but the signal dropped those batioren I handle artificial intelligence frequently, with a lot of artificial and little intelligence. I am artificial sas in intelligence. The final greeting from Medellin to the leftist minister, a thousand thanks for what he does with very good intentions and to take the Internet to the faraway regions. And it' s a pleasure to have the great Lyscan Minister, who works hard for Colombians every day.

1:14:12 Thank you, thank you very much. Well, and we passed on from the teachers of Medellin, Master Yamit welcome to the Luciana, grab more news. Sinante sea como esta yamid Hello, sir, how' s it going with Minister Lizcano. Here' s Horamen Rond rors now a thousand. Thank you for inviting me again. As a gift wever you if he brought you new news. Yeah, we have a lot of new news, including everything we' re working on artificial intelligence. Last week we were, for example, telling him in Switzerland, in Guinebra and Colombia was recognized as one of the developing countries, because there are two levels that are developed and we, as we are working on the issue of implementation of artificial intelligence. I think that' s positive news and new news. It' s not called the cro marin. No. No. No. It' s just that if you' re bothered by criticism, you say no to me, I' m not bothered by criticism. Brother, I' m glad this spinosa and I didn' t love myself. I think it' s a good one for. That' s not good news. It' s good news for you. I don' t know if that speaks right or wrong about me.

1:15:27 It' s not no or no. He knew we were scratching. They were just getting curled up. Or how many you got. He said to me forty- seven years old. There' s no overlap in translating things into a box that' s been released from your office. I' m more or less not keeping them in one here when I' m going to leave so soon or what do you think of so many criticisms. How to have reviews and comments on social networks every day. I think it' s one of the public' s res. We' re used to criticism.

1:16:30 Sometimes you have to listen to the criticisms and listen to them, because many times at least it happens to me many times that something is disconnected. I find out about the networks many times that by the Ministry. When one is pending, many times through criticism, it is that one realizes that things are not right and one, sometimes one can make decisions was or is translated. It was precisely about criticism. Today I read precisely a trine of yours from Mauricio Lizcano, Minister the Las Tick, precisely because we are having problems with some banks and Internet connection, and today you drew attention to one of them. That' s what yamin asks if I can' t say the name of the son. Obviously, we are not very concerned about the issue of Colombia since the weekend is presenting problems not only in the operating system, but also in all virtual banking. And really this is a country already very banked and we have many problems. I do, I think we have to take advantage of it from here, from those who drew attention in Colombia and to the super financial that if they have to fix the problem is that many people are predicted companies that can not pay their employees, pay them or stop the economy because of the problem in a single bank, besides that it is the biggest bank in Colombia. Son O por s says that why routes are

1:18:04 strengthening the public media in Colombia, one in front of the content and the other slows down technology. We are working hard on the transmedia issue, so we have just spoken or the media that are outside the networks or that produce content on multiple platforms, because they are outside the competitive ones of the same media and we have a great investment in public media and especially in regional channels. So much investment we made in public media last year with such national content as Emma Reyes, which was very good, and many others who won twenty - one India Catalina, public television in India Catalina' s last awards, and we doubled the investment in the media let' s say regional, because that' s a way for us to protect television. We cannot invest in private media, except through guidelines, that this is already a decision, let us say of the Government, of all ministries. But if we are making an effort to rescue and maintain public television, in fact, we have a very nice project this year and it is Costry, a public OTTE so that we can have all the contents of public television and an autetes with a kind of public NETFLIX that we are working so that all the contents, because we can see them by good networks, because that is when you have this the other not few. Well, not cell phone for bors I a little flame.

1:19:34 You' ll be as if gey clear or if it' s going to be the only thing that was thinking about being clear to you, but that the light magna, yes, callita, yes, is a flame like that, but a crass dependent. I' m going to dream about rum, that is. We have five people, the subject works better, five Gs. Already my s does not shrink thanks to Master Jamin Jorge Espinosa of our team of the Lucia Ernaga at this time because it is not melquis that you are on vacation and of the team of six knows me today that Gustavo Ministro directs, you have made several mentions to the five G that was assigned the national spectrum in December. At that time, it was said that the regional auction would be April. What I understand is that it is now August, but that there are also those who say that there is possibly no regional market for the five G are going to maintain the regional auction. We, then, had a very successful auction with the five E. Well, we ' ve been there before, but it' s always good to remember from ray the potenta. Now I mean, he wasn' t p Tons Spins Santas. The three hours we finished the truths, we had the spreads.

1:20:46 It was very judicious, of course, very much loved to mock the area there. We had a very successful five G auction. But we realized that in the other bands let' s say no. Not much appetite in the middle and low bands, which is leading us to consider whether this is the time in the market to open a new auction. We what the objective of the regional auction which companies like Cali, such as TV, such as the EPM itself or small medium enterprises can also participate in the spectrum. I give it this figure which, in addition to one of a study that we just finished and there I give it a chiva. We believed that the country was connected today by the big telcos. Today, of course, it connects the great part of the country, let' s say. The second is you, but the third is not moving in Colombia, the third is small and medium. Today 25 percent of the country is connecting it. Small and medium - sized people, especially in the last mile, in a country like Brazil, make it fifty percent. So we' re evaluating whether it' s time for the market. We' re talking to him. You don' t know if it' s gonna be in August? You don' t know if it' s gonna be in August? Because to do some is enough. We need it to be successful, not so much for resources, but so much because there are really people interested in participating in that, in that, in that issue. We also understand that the worst aspect is the one that is not used, but prees we also have to agree with the

1:22:19 market and this year, for all that there are movements in the market, precisely because of what we are talking about now with Giovanni' s question, because we are seeing what is the best time to do it. In this regard, we are doing what is called a market study with stakeholders to see whether they really care about it or not, because obviously, all of that requires planning, a big effort, and I don' t know ministers if they have already finally decided, after what they are doing with national financial development. Buy Azteca, which is a network that has fiber optics, but that in many regions of the country questions that have also asked here complain the choco, were incommunicado for three weeks. Anyway, it' s a good business to buy Azteca for the Colombian state. Others have identified that what are the three problems we have today to reach let' s say eighty- five percent of that study I' m counting. The first problem is the transmission.

1:23:11 We say, the telecommunications system has as three components the transmission, which is what andrred does and towards Azteca. The other problem is, say, the other is the telcos, let' s say the other part, and the others are the last mile, which is called internet service providers ho and that weight within that model. We identify that we are having some problems in transmission, because the system that was built in the Government of President Sas Santos really called the high- speed Internet, because it is built for a level of data, but those that data are doubling in the world every nine months. If the others are exposed, every nine months we double the data in the world, then those networks that were built for the two thousand thirty, because today they are reaching us. Then we have to build a much more robust system. And the other problem we understand is demand, that is, people who no longer have to buy the Internet. So, in the first solution of the telcos because we are working in Internet connectivity to isa bringing fiber optics to the home in the topic of the transmission. What we' re seeing is we' re evaluating whether to have a public transmission system much more efficient than a private system, because the big problem Colombia has is that we depend 100% on private teaks always yes, exactly we depend 100% on Azteca and directly private an. Yes, and internex that provides that service is also half private to half public, because it is communications Ecopetrol. And what is being discussed in the center of the interior of the government is whether, at

1:24:44 least the transmission one there is a large public component for us to be able to have control, even that that has another theory of data sovereignty, etcetera. But more than anything else, not to depend on how it happens to us today, the private one is wrong, the government is guilty and today there is no way many times to demand it because the contracts that were made in that Government. Or he won' t speak ill of the government, but he doesn' t hear it. Pae, Minister Finish is that we were accused of being known to Colombia, Minister, because of course we all know it. Or made of sticks friend, first of all very good afternoon happy that you brought me nita doña deprez, but he is a minister.

1:25:30 Or you can' t interrupt like that because yes, like your name is Candia Barreras Rojas, love, nice to meet you, I wanted to make you Minister Dear wanted like that, dear, dear. He' s dating. Well, well, already the sex influencers are done. Friend, you know my daughter and she said dearly even if you don' t believe it, we have many things in common. Friend, for example, Friend, while you work all day from the Ministry of ICT, I did what happened all day, tikto tiktok. Friends, you know, dear, tell him I feel sorry for the minister days we' re best friends, true that ' s why friends like that is love, friend, while you, with the ministry, keep your hair up, I' ll make you ready with my keratina. Friend, Friend, Friend, Friend, I' ll tell you that. Dude, I want to ask you something, since I' m here sitting next to you taking advantage of your great presence. Dude, we' re here in confidence, right, in total confidence. No one ' s asking us. Yeah, I' m worried, buddy. I ' m worried, my friend. I ask you what is done from the Ministry of ICT to support thousands of content creators like me, love. What they are doing, because the first thing we would sound like but crane, which we have said a lot, is to maintain connectivity, because if there is more connectivity, there are more people who can reach them and more interaction.

1:26:55 We also have a program called power, which has a lot to do with artificial intelligence, but which is also developing innovation ecosystems in the regions. There are many companies there that are content producers, that is, today the content is already a big company, that is to say already one. They cannot have content producers as amateurs who are playing behind content producers. In Colombia there are already large companies, there are big entrepreneurs that produce billions of pesos, not only in Colombia, but in the world. And then, through that project called power in the regions, people can apply. Let' s say some support in that and other competitiveness projects that we have to undertake.

1:27:36 Okay. Thank you, friend. I loved the Tig class I loved American. Not what you say, they do. Okay. Thank you, Don Joan and Celli and close more news. Mr Minister, how do you go in to play that famous strategy of enabling communal action boards to provide Internet services and I ask you whether you have or how to ensure that Colombians' privacy is protected because they look. We have a country disconnected. To that disconnected country and then, honestly, the telco have not arrived. And the telco hasn' t arrived because the market hasn' t arrived. That is, when there is supply and demand, if people have nothing to buy, because there does not come the supply of companies, that is a reality here at any point in the market. Then we have found ourselves a very disconnected country, where economies of scale do not give to big companies and where we have areas where there are fifty inhabitants scattered on a mountain and that do not arrive.

1:28:31 So this is an idea of the President who really showed up and we ' ve already tested him. It' s fabulous that it' s connective communities or Internet boards. We talk to the boards of the commune boards, the Internet boards, and we form them, we train them, we give them the equipment and they return to Internet service providers. Coron' s not free. It' s not for free service. They have to corona social rate between thirty and forty thousand pesos and those revenues do not go to the government, if they go to the same communal action board to grow, to grow the service. This year we' re going to end up with three zero communal action boards. We' ve been all over the country. They are really spectacular experiences, because in addition people learn to do the technical part.

1:29:17 Then knowledge remains in the Community. Really connecting Internet fiber optics or fiber is not difficult. It' s a little wire like the one you actually put in the house and if, besides they have to charge someone' s Internet, then, because they also move the whole ecosystem, the whole ecosystem, but how do they do for that illegal money. The illegal groups do not go in there, because they are exempt from that being the regions. They are far away, no, because it is really the Community that pays, an invoice of 20, 000 pesos, because which illegal group will pay. Nor can we prevent illegal groups from buying a cell phone or buying a sincar, but it is in the normal world of commerce. But there' s no act there. He' s at risk of illegal groups, because he' s the one who takes control, for example, he' s at home. But today, let' s say they wouldn' t have to take it, because the same is true, because the risk is in Colombia. There are all over the world of business, but in principle there is the Community Action Board. It' s the popular power, it' s the people doing it, becoming s fish and it' s a model that we' ve already tried. We already have several running chilvicito in the Guaira, we have several in the tello, in Willa, we have several and they work perfect, because we do not put a satellite antenna. They lower the Internet, carry it on a cable from the house, charge thirty thousand pesos, provide the service and that has asked us to close the right and such and empower the communities. It really worked really well. Well, Minister, you' ve come here to Caracol Radio now twenty with Diana Calderón.

1:30:38 I have come now twenty with Milana Calderón. Yes, yes, well, get ready because it' s 20 o' clock if you don' t get out of here without Anesthesia Diana Calderón and Lora 20. I am Diana Calderón and the debate and I address it a greeting for the listeners who tune us in on streaming, not that we have the Minister on streaming and then they will look for our content on our social networks and on our social networks like Instagram, ex ante, Twitter or YouTube and Facebook Life. For my part, I' m choral. I was born in Granada. I ' m in charge here I' m saying he hasn' t listened since the no. Gabriel I refuse, no, no, why they put this bit on me today' s topic in Colombia. Those who should have better connectivity the invited panelists. Antonio Navarro. There' s no Antonio Navarro, sorry, there' s no Antonio Navarro, but there' s Vice President France Marquez. Special is the Vice President, the Minister of Finance, Ricardo Bonilla. Good afternoon and ana, thank you very much for the invitation the Mayor of Medellin, Federico Gutiérrez, to what better or not, Mayor, and also the minister of the TICK Mauricio Iscano. How did it go, Minister? I look great, Diana here to discuss with me. It'

1:32:10 s questioning, contesting, debating. This is my thing. The calm debate, Minister, I address a greeting to my colleague I vanicated the network director more news and it will always be a pleasure to invite him. The most important thing is that I will remind you that the debate was said by me, Diana, of course I have it, of course you are the one who banded in the debate. But when I go net over there I' ll drive anyway, don' t get too comfortable in that chair starts scene starts starts. Federico Gutierrez, mayor of Ledellin. Well, Diana, look at the lack of connectivity between the national government and many of the mayors here in the president has made us ugly. In my case, I am waiting for you to receive me to talk about projects or if you do not receive me, but give me the sight for the city, because, as I said, silver is silver. Well, those are teenage words. Federico, how to say that. You have to think before you talk there. Relax, Ricardo, that I' m big and I know very well what I ' m saying, but it' s been very complicated to beat. But I still tell you that you have to end the disconnect between the government and its bench in Congress, because they knew they' re called the bench, because they only go to session every time they feel like it. Oh what exactly and just came phrase sea wanted. I greet the other fellow cocktail bartenders.

1:33:38 It' s the same thing. There is a lack of more connectivity between the remote regions of the country and the Government in Bogotá. And that ' s only achieved with better Internet, the one that comes through the so - called comic fiber, fiber optics. That' s not even what Bacano Minister Lyscan says. That' s what you can see, Minister, so look. We, as we said, have the goal of arriving eighty- five percent and today we are doing maybe some nicer projects that we are doing with ISA with the Internet. That' s where we' re going to connect to the minister. You had to read the free will conner o. It' s going to be that bon two are leaving, but I' m going for the egg ste, the book all for the same. Free here told you we' re going to connect four hundred thousand places. That ' s what I was going to tell you now, Hratro, it would be uncides you can' t miss the opportunity. But here in another bit I know if we give you how many hours, Minister, not three hours.

1:34:46 You have three hours, Minister, but let' s leave it at that. Done, you should r not want to do with a quiet little boy. Not my friends, but those who should improve connectivity should only be high- level government officials. Or that, measured by the impressive disconnection that has occurred when it comes to responding to teachers for the failures in their health service, more disconnected have not been able to be already. Paste, you speak very tasty, but who answers then the ticket I miss for me gives me. But we do things right if we want to see them in another negative way, because it put him in disconnection. You guys. There is the disconnection or a little bit of rich people who stop us molaring the debate to the canon, or Federico, here fights better said so far lora twenty, my mom, what opinions, friends, well, a little humor, rather at six forty- six minutes ago, finally on here and who knows his backpack, what do you do and we don' t know where it comes from, where it is or who brings it. But why is it always so, do me a favor ja where I was getting over the you How' s he gonna give you a little tik before the dongres joke?

1:36:00 Tell me to see, sir, and say hello. First to speak the Minister good to see you. I don' t know I had eaten it already. All of a sudden, I' m fine with a lady coming to an office. Yes, Miss, good afternoon, it' s just that I have a tick and so it was the Minister of Stick and yes, the doctor will attend. Oh, God, yes, yes, Miss, yes, yes, the Miss is going to take care of you. Thank you, Miss. When the doctor came in, Doctor, it' s just that I have this tick and the doctor here we' re gonna fix it. There it lasted about three hours, as a month he met a friend who called Mauricio, ah but from another country and another country and they did call him Mauricio who grabbed him with Wishon Televar and Mario. How ' d it go with the ting thing? I' m saying that' s over the top. Well he drank now so he in this joke intervenes to joke to non granite, which are the originals. No, but in Medellin they do that the interitated joke represented everything authorized by the Ministry of the STICK. How the joke acts Don' t say it' s piracy, no, no, it' s already out of style to stone, yes, it' s not represented to go out of style. You' re absolutely right. Not just here is the minister tech is the new tech lathe this five and five. I' ve taken you, like, sixty years until you got married. The Prime Minister of the Cabinet, Mr Mauricio,

1:37:36 and Lyscano ah yes bad country, are taking part in this joke. Yes, sir, in the role of prosecutor. In this case yes and Ztto. It is, it is the same tic but inverted teustes is lexicon for the ministry exists the dislés and with it, sir and this friend of you in the role of the other, Mr Campe If not Campes, Yes, Mr peasant Libretos and Dirección General Graviel de las Casas and Enrique Segovia do not ask if don Enrique knows Dr Niscano. Yes, of course I do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it' s been a while since Dr List wasn' t. I well, beings also white Giovanni, how I do well, deserve to see it and Dr Espinosa, good Esters Marcelli, Indian well late to this program that is a nest. You tell him his a nice sminous merce and I wanted to say no, so I didn' t.

1:38:24 It' s just that I mean I think the Ministry is coming and I' m being punished for telling you, for telling you to lend yourself to me. Yes, right, ah Libretos and Dirección General Grebel de las Casas and Enrique Se Govierno is supervision Alessandra Montoya, the first voice of the radio inaugurated the did not see him Manuel Murillo Toro was the microphone to the has or his mummie vote of who accompanied me in the amiga. When he arrived, he remembered television in Colombia otorde in the year fifty- three one hundred and five thousand seven three thirty. He was tempted to support eight out of sixty- nine. Not to see Pedro Idealessita had the microphone ro genera ro Bueno now supervision Billiard and the minister and thorny. How new, sir Such a year. Thank you. One day there was a peasant there in his tamar chambo and here, when he interspectively saw that there was a bagel full of politicians. The baglet went up, suffered mechanical brake damage and turned to its sieve quickly the peasant opened a hole, a common josa and buried the dead corpses of the dead. When he was already leaving home, he arrived at a prosecutor' s office. Let' s hear that matica welcome to Mr Game, Ct and Iscalia cinematario, where I can serve you as

1:39:59 a representative of the prosecution. I demand that you clarify to me what you did with the injured politicians. If you won' t believe me as a Lyscan doctor, but I did what I did and went to open a hole, a common josa and buried all the politicians in that hole, and maybe they were all dead, because one said no. But since politicians are such lies but don' t leave us, yes Thank you very much. Don Fediondo. Orlando Billiards is our editor- in- chief of the Caracol news service. Villar Good afternoon. He provided good afternoon coverage of the topic of public transport platforms. Last year, a project was submitted to the Congress of the Republic. They finally pulled him out. They said they were going to be a concertation table and even announced a public policy to regulate this issue.

1:40:44 This legislature was not seen. Public policy has not been seen. What are you going to do about this discussion, Minister, and what are you going to do with these transport platforms, because the first thing to say is that this is really a problem, as you say, of public transport insofar as Colombian legislation, because it puts a number of requirements on which who can provide the public service and who do not within that regulation. Well, platforms, let' s say, don' t comply with part of that regulation. Then the Government has been the head of the Minister of Transport, who has led these working tables. He has been, then, meeting with the industry to see how, then, he forces the platforms or how he can do to reach an agreement that can be lent. Let' s say the two services in compliance with the rules it requires, because how obliged today the Colombian Government and the Colombian State to provide public service from our side, really we are very little what we can do. A lot of people say and why don' t they disconnect? Number Why don' t you disconnect? Because Colombia has a law that is called technological neutrality and on that law of technological neutrality we are not allowed to suspend the Internet. The Internet is almost a right of Colombians. And then, that' s why we can' t remove any of the platforms that are there. It is a problem that needs to be solved more in these months of work than yes, I think they have been slower than necessary, but it is where they have to be solved with the entire sector and data law Ministers that originated in the Data Congress is going very well. The Government has other priorities. You think so, yes,

1:42:17 you' re going to leave Congress later. Today he threw it away Look. Imagine that we presented it a fortnight ago and today it was approved by the Commission in the first unanimous debate. All the members of the Commission voted for it because that law is really very important to the country for three things. One is the basis of artificial intelligence. No data, no data, no artificial intelligence. And two not month center. I got the mechan All these of the law. Then it is very important for the production of artificial intelligence, for the decision- making of the country in data and for something that is my dream as Minister, and it is that Colombia is not a consumer of technology, but a producer of technology. All the effort we ' re making is for Colombians to become technology producers and not just consume.

1:43:09 Okay. Thank you, Mr Ira, you' re a Minister ton hydrauli allow me, but it' s not not just fat from but from two days ago so much, don' t get me back in the car, you don' t have it for me. A while ago Minister, not if I' ve been told that my cra but it' s like my Internet is so slow, it' s slower than old. Never do automatic. Not you, sir, you respect the lens, you go astronaut, or I think you don' t have to do anything. Here. Well, well, well, you don' t get used to it. I feel here like when you go on the Internet and say accept, Coquis that is that sheath. Yeah, yeah, yeah, don' t talk the microphone anymore. You don' t exactly accept it, Coquis. They know Adrián to explain to you a more certain one where you are giving permission for all your information. If you put these great comrades' hands there, yes, right, accepting cuz I think I touch something else, I think of the porn queen' s sheath and all that swindling brother and they' re other tools. Yes, tool, yes, Granny we Madrid. But good that or for the check he has asked me to come quickly to deliver the diagnosis of the Doctor of the Iscano and fix the car dear gabo the Doctor Lizcano. It' s not easy, because it' s a very modern car and it' s got even intersec I don' t know there and I don' t know it knows anything. I imagine he made an internet that they call high speed, yes or no, because, like the Minister,

1:44:39 he keeps running pure and pure all over the country. It must be that sheath, the intersect. That' s right, it' s a car I' ve seen park several stalls. Not because good of the government, no, because ton is the government remember that it was parked. He ' s in the presidency. There I run the dapre gives pressure. Geys is really under pressure to have to meet him now millions of Colombians I don ' t know about the Internet. By the way, I have a friend who likes her a lot. The chano band no longer allows them to come out with any bare wire. Dear Minism and Octolis Carmas, I ask you what you' re doing. It' s a ministry to help us, the thousands of microentrepreneurs that we want to do what they call digitalizing our businesses, putting up the stationary and answer me to that, dear Minister, well, dear mechanic, we' re working on a topic that' s called your online business, which is how to transform the popular economy and make it digital, because people think that technology is like a bunch of people. Many times he tried that is top ten deal and we really don' t want it from the Ministry, it' s that technology is also from the popular economy. A lady who can sell her T- shirts via Instagram or Facebook, who can sell empanadas, who can see many things. Then we have formed since I am Minister, more than twenty zero shopkeepers or people from popular food, hairdressers, dog sellers or T- shirt vendors to do all the digital transformation. We created the website for them, enlisted them all online payment

1:46:13 so that they could sell, helped them move on the networks, because we believe that technology is not just an elite, but of all the Plechspor mechanics as they are true, or I want to invite the Minister to watch as the TVs days how, like fivetrol at any time does not pass us there. I' m right because of you I' m asking you for a soda. The truth is that you' re getting the best out of them. The gra asks in the end and we are going to see the Minister, to make a digital power. We pass by as a safe power. How goes that initiative of having a cyber security hop for the region if we have three priorities and here the very clear reason. It' s not conective that we' ve talked a lot about innovation ecosystems, digital education. We are forming a million Colombians and there we have two very strong cross- cutting issues. Some intimate artificial science. We' re talking very hard and the three cyber security, because today, before, the crimes were on the street.

1:47:05 Today, as it is a digital world, crime is digital. Last year we had twenty billion attacks and today I was reading an article in I think in Portfolio, where it said that the banks have received twenty- eight billion attacks this year alone. So, today, because people are sparing the silver, supplanting the data, scaking it, or in other, more serious parts, they make it ransgo. Big companies are hijacked by data, they ' re charged$ 2 3 million, which is the average ticket for a chinga- age kidnapping I know, but we don' t have time, because we' ve thrown. You can go steal the data. Then we are working to create a soco, a center of operations against cyber crime in the Ministry, to protect companies and people. And we' re going to end up in a call center where people can call and we can help them that there' s really a lot of trouble with that even a Uizcan minister, because we' re going to leave or we' re closing, but I invite him to well, he' s not going to sing this time.

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1:49:36 that tells the bride with five ge improves things if who you call how much keyboard with your race. This is the echo song and cano says no peco eco connected without endeletco echo. I' m wearing an echo, but it ' s Mauricio Oliscano, Minister of the Sex. It happened in three more news in the Firefly, on Caracol Radio