Sin Anestesia con Mauricio Lizcano

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The light. Despite this yes,
Gabriel de las casas, is charge lightning

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good character of the day, Don
Orlando villar happy afternoon for you from the

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beginning of that ma Yesterday we had
program, that is to say it is

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not beginning of week for us,
but for the rest of the Colombians.

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How are we billiards character of the
day, Gabriel, How are you how

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about weekend, the listeners of the
Caracol Radio look. Yes, I feel

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like five million pesos poorer, because, Gabriel, all Colombians five billion pesos,

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the mediovadite that goes to the scandal
of corruption within the national unit of

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risk management, undoubtedly, the character
of the day, this fund that they

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created at the time, Gabriel,
for the care of emergencies, to react

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precisely to seasons like those that we
are living at this moment in the country,

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a strong rainy season, the emergencies
that the two present to take care

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of the tracks, the projects and
so on, a fund that is not

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under the magnifying glass of law eighty, so that they can hire and that

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was objectively yes, without the usual
procedures being done, but that emergencies really

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were attended, because a fund that
Gabriel has used to steal is said by

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the Comptroller General of the Republic,
who warns that five trillion pesos are or

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would have irregularities, would have been
lost in the last four years. We

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' re not just talking about Gustavo
Petro' s administration. We are also

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talking about the administration between former President
Iván Duque, but also other administrations,

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such as Juan Manuel Santos, in
which irregularities were also presented with the hiring

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of risk management. It became a
bottomless barrel that everyone' s taken out

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of. Silver See also, Gabriel
silver for the poorest, water projects in

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Guajira, projects to bring community pots
to co, projects for roads and infrastructure,

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schools and children in Boyacá and Bolívar. We are talking about the silver

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of the most vulnerable populations in the
country. No, but they' re

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grieving. Who gave me this gentleman
friend, he' s not everyone'

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s friend with me the wrong ticket. I plant for clarne the stolen whore.

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What a candidate for the Lucierna,
No, Mr No, how clear

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a good afternoon. First of all
to special greetings to all, Mr Carmelo

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Hurtado, Silver, Mr Hurtado,
First, we are not in elections.

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Second, the hallucinated woman has no
candidate. Third, I mean, you

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don' t have to get into
the recordings and the programs of the Lucierna.

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Man. Gabrielito, Gabrielito, makes
me laugh at those things he'

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s dating, but look, this
is square. Yeah. Gabriel had already

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talked to pipe about my admission to
the Juan Pepe program today It' s

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a topic with pipe. Our goat
president not how it happens to him.

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Not to see no, sir special
greetings for everything or sit me down here,

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but my name will be heard and
it is impossible that I take so

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much lie this type of lie with
him. Yes, and I greet Caracol

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' s family who is our blood
denying the pipe as we had left.

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It' s okay. I have
nothing to see. Well, Gabriel,

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precisely because I' m here,
I' m not campaigning, Gabriel,

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right now I' m coming to
talk to you to make a better appreciation

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of what you were talking about,
about whether you give precisions to have vague

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not my appreciations. Tell me,
please, because I' m talking about

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my appreciations. Then you already have. That' s why, Gabriel,

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you realize that' s the problem
with the ignorant. They don' t

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listen to coughs. They always start
talking. Just like that in hotel charge.

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Precisely, Garita is laughing to Carmelo, there I am hearing you,

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you are laughing that weapons you open
it yes, they stop laughing at people

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who start to shoot ideas without even
not seeing you know are your appreciations that

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exaggerate. I don' t have
him laughing there anymore, Gabriel, ah,

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yeah, yeah, laugh two,
a serious thing. Please, sá

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mada let him speak to Mr Carmelo. Now we' re out of the

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man. Hey. That' s
why you don' t get hired by

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Bessoli, because Gabriel was listening here
to my new advisor ordling billiards what you

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' re doing would be billiards not, but it' s coming out for

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good. Computer. No, no, no, no, that' s

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sor tere You' re out and
praying And if you keep like this,

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we' re gonna give you a
bigger computer. Yet. No yes,

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yes, this here of pigarri is
not again the Fisher Price of haja business

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or there is no good. He
has no animal, you have letters and

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with little animal he does not forget
us children, ha clear veil hotels that

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he is man of macer. Hear
this one more to see. We'

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re talking about five million pesos that
have been lost. Men, five billion

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who were of the poor. Yes, but man, those five billion pesos

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that many say dis have been lost
in corruption, risk management. That'

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s a lie theory, it'
s a palatial. They' re opposition

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lies, Gabía, and I'
ll tell you what. These, in

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addition to five million pesos, have
simply been invested in the scaffolding of democracy

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as the support of institutions. No, it' s like very simple Gabriel,

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from the moment the elections are held, whatever it is, the candidates

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get indebted, many of the losers
are committed, without where to be able

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to steal forgiveness, to be able
to work Gabriel to see. Instead,

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the winners of the elections are blessed
to be able to start managing contracts to

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pay for their sponsors. Blessing.
Begin a blessing. It' s a

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blessing, Gabriel. It' s
a blessing. That' s when the

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real party of democracy begins. Or
what is wrong with helping those who help

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us? We don' t have
theory, we don' t have involved,

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no, Gabriel, that' s
five billion pesos as they are like

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tax reform ways that wash us every
bit tersent those billions, gabrieles listen help

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me reactivate the economy, or then
let' s be clear about that before

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they should thank us. I say
good- bye, but this week I

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' m coming back to keep stealing
from you. Stealing the banister attention Carmel

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stolen, goodbye, Mr Carmelo,
good spiny let' s return to the

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subject and now yes, seriously we
are talking and much of the petrism,

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not much of the petridism, petristic
wineries on social networks are precisely talking about

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this and saying ah but they stole
in the government of Santos, ah but

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much also in the government of Duque
to see that they investigate them and that

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they bring them to all those who
have stolen into prison, but also to

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those who have stolen in the government
of Petro in which we are thorny.

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Good afternoon, Gabriel, Good afternoon, because look what I can tell you

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is that the counter- loar today
has given a figure that is terrifying.

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What the Comptroller has said is that
the irregularities in the last four years in

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the National Risk Management Unit is five
billion pesos. It particularly says the counterlore

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in matters that had to do with
the attention of the covid' s covid

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' s coronavirus nineteen. In what
petrism has tried to say on social networks,

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is that this shows that corruption in
this entity did not start with Olmedo

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López and that it is in this
government, in that of President Petro,

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when that rotten pot is being uncovered. Now what has to be said is

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that that is partly true. It
is also true that even the Minister of

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the Interior has already counted, that
it was he who received a call a

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message from President Petro at the time
to appoint Olmedo López as director of the

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National Risk Management Unit, so it
is the Government of President Petro that ends

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up naming the person who was behind
him and so many others that we do

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not yet know, those names,
behind those robberies, of that corruption scandal

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that is probably the most serious that
the petro government has faced so far And

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if it were not for the media, for the work that has been done

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in the media, we would not
know anything about this. And during it

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this government would also have continued to
steal those millions, billions of pesos from

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the national risk management unit. It
must also be said that the counterlord has

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to prove that five million pesos were
lost, but all indications point to the

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fact that, in fact, in
recent years, in that unit that does

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not have that of eighty, which
does not have a recruitment law, hundreds

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of billion pesos were stolen and everyone
has to answer for that which happened in

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that nest of corruption. Well,
Mr Five Million Little Ones, the more

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you' ll find. Let'
s ask him to roll and practically the

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valley troubadour arrived and saved agales.
There is very the worker of four years

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at risk. They hit the most
raneada. The very happy corrupts are just

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pooping politicians, you pay porters hid
simulus giving toe contracts and that' s

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what they care about Anyone who renogues
soon is ready and critical. This has

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happened years ago and the mariachis have
been made for this dance of these rocks

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that enjoy leaving the country fucked and
the people carried the pun have so much

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killed and the thirst noria have calmed
and the water is very far away.

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It feels like shit, three,
four, five, and this is five

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billion that these rats have taken on
making a bone cell. It' s

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also the fault of the leaders who
remember you and those who sell the stops

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votes, because they love to look
at it and dress anything for political bandits

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and the readers and they treat the
evils. Sounds like a good job.

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They' re drying up the rails. I wish, the ones who stole.

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Yes, the dotty already saw the
change is more of the same that

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I hope that I am already know
for the sake of this leather skin where

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the valley and they see four hours
looking for my pa brought pain eggs to

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you the Lucien Gabriel of the houses
is radio snail, My Lady Doña Pepita,

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how you are doing, how you
are caray street I listen to you

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for life. I thought, ma' am Yes, sir, because I

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' m going to snitch this cha. Mrs Welcome, how are you doing

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here with Espinosa? Well, look, it' s just, gabrielito,

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I' m worried because the dog' s sitting here in the living room

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and it' s wearing a little
underpants. You shouldn' t let the

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dogs up in the rooms all the
time. But that' s not the

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question. Don' t hold still
worse Look and hear or say Espinosa.

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I don' t know if the
bitch gets upset, I mean, no,

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no, no, no, but
well, look, it' s

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just that my Espinosa passport I'
m gonna ask you this next one.

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Sometimes I do have earrings, several
of you know that Mom soaks people very

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well, and I have several outstanding
international trips and I' m worried about

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everything that' s going on with
the passports. You know something about this

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spiny origin. Please, Mrs Pepita
Good afternoon to the dog. Also look

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what I can tell you is the
following. I would recommend that, in

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fact, if you have your passport
coming to pass, you better go through

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that procedure, because we already know
that in October you will finish the emergency

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contract that you gave to the firm
Thomas Grecansons, which has it as I

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say, until October. From that
moment on, there is still no clarity

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as to what is going to happen. The Chancellery of Luis Ilberto Murillo already

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has a plan that they are designing
alongside the national printing press and a national

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strategic ally and another strategic wing that
can be foreign. A Mexican firm has

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been much mentioned that this is just
gras, but they have also been interested

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in France, Germany and other countries, including Canada. The other thing that

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has happened, Mrs Pepita, is
that the magazine Cambio Sylvia Sharrie has produced

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a very complete report telling how a
group of experts in hiring from the prosecution

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have concluded that in the process of
tendering passports of the two thousand twenty-

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three, the same one that the
Chancellor declared true today, former Chancellor Alvaro

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Leiva, could violate the principle of
equality and the law of public procurement.

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That means basically that, according to
the opinion of these prosecutors, the lords

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of the Chancellery benefited the sole proponent, who was Thomas Gregansons. That,

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of course, does not change the
fact that the Chancellor could have committed an

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excess, a prevarication when he decided, without having any legal reason to do

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so, to declare from a certain
tender that Thomas Grecansons had already won and,

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so or that there is a lawsuit
against the nation. But, in

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fact, according to the prosecution and
this group of experts, there could have

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been a favor to that signature in
this recruitment process. But yes, doña

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pepita, hurry up, I believe
to get through, Mr Gachas, from

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thorny. I listen to you all
my life, because I wake up with

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Gustavo Gomez and sleep with Santiago Rojas. What wonders do I take goodbye ana,

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old woman, crazy walk, ramajari
Lord do not make us cry tear

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king. In what energy I always
said practically like ok ok week is over

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pattern Tuesday yes, but call you
from her practically that story, that story.

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Look at all that is missing,
not beautiful all what is called aya

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on Tuesday, June 4. Barely
yes, yes, but June flies away,

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Pattern, because gically, because it
starts to analyze and June fu and

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already comes July and memes of July
and August, September fo and this happy

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year for all the parks already and
that this two thousand twenty- five arrives

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loaded with many things. I support
him. That' s why I got

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the music coming in loaded. But, as Christo says here from the Lucernea,

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what is said ay name to see
that two friends were talking. Oh

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man, friends of whom ay man. Friends of them, oh man is

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imitating him. Yes, yes,
oh about such very past of the two

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are the same old friends all the
s Don' t notice pattern that one

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of them was Spanish. Don'
t tell me that well, yes,

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one of them was from Begoña,
no, I don' t know the

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truth, patn if she had any
illness or something. No, bre coña

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is a mother' s name.
Oh, yeah, no, no.

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Yeah. Nor did I know how
to say yes, but the other one

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was, because from here what Naño
was was paysapes practically with her Spanish friend

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and she was kidding, Begoña,
uh, no, not the truth.

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I don' t have the name" muelocito" you know if Mrs Begonia

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yes, no, no Begoña Begonia
no, Begoña, oh, yes no.

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But I think in this case the
lady didn' t see that.

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Ah ok ha ha ha ha ha
ha? Noele to see haja. Then

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they are talking to the two friends, friends of whom friends of them and

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tells her, Come aunt, because
that was the Spanish one. Not in

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case the chews hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha and it was
the. I think I' ve got

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that pronunciation cleared up. He better
clarify yes, that there is such a

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hyspanist that that is Spanish. No
yes, that' s like when you

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arrived on October thirty- one,
a bet and it' s up to

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you to explain the costume so there
they already died. Yeah, that was

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the Spanish one. It' s
worth it. Yes, yes, you

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' re being dazzled, because come
on, A is a lady. Yes,

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she was a lady, but she
talks like a cosine. Unsolved with

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the cry. It' s a
cla and how it was viennese. That

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' s a Spanish lady. Yes, Spanish, ready, then say come,

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then come to Auntie. Yeah,
well, come on, Auntie,

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I' ve put more on it. Yeah, it looks like Armenian.

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Hahahahahahaha. I' m going to
change, in fact, no, but

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finish that to see today. So
come on aunt and what is it our

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corner is to corner. He feels
more certain than good, Caesar, because

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how good he was talking, The
bulls are over, but always good then

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look at everything little again good hahaha, well, come to t a deli

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to see man, he doesn'
t have crying, but if right,

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man, uh, if he'
s in my interrupt, then come on

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Aunt, how was your appointment and
say no, because that yes the Colombian,

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which the first one was already the
Colombian, no, no, no,

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this was the Spanish one. And
how about the tucita, if your

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date' s been? But what
does Auntie say, how was your date?

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He tells me he doesn' t
bring ay. Well, we went

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to a flamenco show site. It
is spoken ay and even by the elbows

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which barracota reaches very bad, because
bad goodbye sir that Abrie of the houses

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Cerco Radio, I teach Luciernaga in
Caracol, Radio Bueno billiards Ay. Surprisingly

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the bill that was going to lower
the salary of congressmen that goes ah but

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seems surprising to him. No,
not real caught me by surprise. Not

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only did all the news come to
you. I think we' ve given

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him ten years. Gabriel had bet
it on the beach that that was going

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to happen. He didn' t
lose a little silver there not for eleven

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you aba you see consecutively every year, Gabriel present this Congress, this project

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in the Congress of the Republic,
where it is sought that the Congress itself

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will reduce its wages, because it
sinks again. He doesn' t get

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the majorities in Congress fifteen votes in
favor, fourteen against. In the first

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Committee of the House of Representatives it
did not reach twenty- one votes that

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it needed for then Gabriel to make
that reduction that several of the congressmen have

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repeated that it is trying to make. Several of them have said they are

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looking to support this project. But
then, Gabriel, we' re on

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a stage where congressmen continue to win
thirty- seven times as much. He

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' s just a standing Colombian.
That' s going to be very difficult,

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because it' s the same thing
we do. A proposal for us

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to lower the salary of the fireflies. We back her up. Gabriel,

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I don' t know if I
have the necessary votes, but then I

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don' t know. It laughs
what my children think, because everything is

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taken away from feeding to idea to
you then not very complicated. But then

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JP Hernández dropped it precisely that he
was very concerned about this bill. Let

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' s connect with JP to see
what' s going on, Poto,

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how' s ch Jp, how' s she doing because she' s

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mad. I' m the two
digital that' s here on this number

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of six euros on Facebook. He
pleases. Six thousand three hundred and twenty

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- seven, twenty- seven yes, yes, yes? YouTube Live,

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YouTube Live, six hundred forty-
eight very pengla no numbers or more Instagram

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how many Instagram, ah yes,
two thousand three hundred forty- nine,

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two thousand three hundred, fifty-
one, fifty- one. He doesn

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' t get it, but I' m super terrified. What I can

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' t believe is that the House' s First Committee filed my bill and

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tried to reduce the salary of the
congressmen. Yes, the project had fifteen

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votes in favour fourteen against, which
obtained majorities. I needed my nine twenty

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- one votes to save myself Yeah, yeah, it' s last hour.

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This is urgent. Yeah, well, well. I have the worst

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news, Gabriel, that came out
of the spotlight of the House and I

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think you' re going to have
to repeat this video. No. No,

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no, no, no, no, don' t come JP don

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' t go, because I think
he hit the stick also JP with a

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video he intended to show off with
and they realized it wasn' t like

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that, that it was a fake
video. See what Gabriel can be.

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I don' t know if fake, I don' t know if a

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montage, but if he uses some
images besides taking from Salvador' s presidential

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command transmission, that' s true. JP. Nahie Book, take care

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of him by praying. Unbelieving lords, doubt my presence in the possession of

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my idol loop It is that I
was there during the ceremony, as it

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was a little bit of assembly,
people say already, but was not invited

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to the possession. It' s
different. Yeah, of course everyone could

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be there. The space was like
that of Bolivar Square, three out of

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a hundred thousand people. But what
official sources of the Salvado government tell us

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and we count on the confidential ones
of noon with Diana Calderón. He wasn

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' t officially invited to the event, not day, but he wasn'

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t officially invited. No. No, no, no, but it wasn

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' t assembly. I study there. No, but she made the video

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as if she had been officially invited
to see it at the table and at

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the red mat gala and sneakers.
On the contrary, Gabriel you know that

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it came into the world of everything, no, but that was a setup.

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So, Gabriel look what happens is
that you may have already said something,

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manifested yourself, if what we are
told by sources from the JP Office

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have tried to talk to him.
He has not wanted to pronounce himself until

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now on the subject, Gabriel,
and very strange, besides with someone so

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media in networks and others who has
not made a pronouncement on the topic.

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But they say that if the invitation
came to them, but that it was

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not directly the Palace, but a
deputy and another person who initially invited him

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to the ceremony and then took him
to dinner. What they tell us,

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Gabriel, is that they even had
to tell the Colombian senator that she was

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not officially invited to leave at the
time she was about to enter the 11th.

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I wasn' t invited. JP. It' s a fraud,

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that video wasn' t invited.
Those journalists who would have been defusing and

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bringing things that are not invited or
Jaga was, yes he was, but

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JP was not invited. Bye already
dead. Goodbye, good afternoon to the

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film- maker Gabriel Andrés of the
houses of Escobar. But there' s

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Alexandra Monto Arrega arroba ale Sandro Voto, journalist who complained to steal from me

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that if he has tempted him,
I greet him from the officer Godon and

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in company of her buried, we
will be telling them what is going on

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with the intestinal pathways along the sides
of the attention. Greetings to the teachers

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of the magisterium. There' s
a terrible travesty of attention. Like the

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one who says, they smashed what
worked on purpose was buried. Now I

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take the temperature to see how hot
it is here. I' ve got

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the thermometer ready for you to impress
me with that mini mini mini thermometer that

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was a while ago. You know
what melted down on you. No,

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I don' t show him the
tremendous chirophone so he doesn' t get

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embarrassed around the sides. Those who
circulate at the high price of fruits must

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move slowly so that they don'
t see Daddy already officiates cotton. It

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' s true that you don'
t like zapote anymore, but you'

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re happy when your peach is broken. No, well, how much of

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the fruit is better. An hour
I' ll check on that chirimoya to

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see how bruised it is and obstruct
it and say non. A lot of

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patience is recommended to those who hope
that from the prosecution finally give them a

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free way to investigations such as that
of Nicholas and to Petro And you had

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once been buried has been imputed.
No, sir, I' ve always

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been in wey and those who go
so close to the flood- affected areas

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are asked to have fireflies syntonize all
those officer cotton. It is true that

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with or without rain you get wet
to the Chamber ajay that letter to what

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amount of humor, what carnival of
laughter, chascarrillos or that already already since

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you mentioned the canoe. Whenever I
want, I' ll have her entertained

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here with the oar. If you
want, I' ll lend it to

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you with eight l' s We
talked to you about the office and cotton

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and I had it buried in remote
chitting, from Girl around here with some

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shame. The Lucien Naga, Gabriel, of the houses is Radio snail.

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Well, follow the look on Caracol
Radio. Well, in this country we

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don' t get out of one. We have drought, we have water

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rationing in the city of Bogotá,
but we have problems with winter in the

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country Billiar what is the problem where
we have emergencies, because Gabriel, at

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this moment the emergencies are bigger,
besides that they have to do with mobility,

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with the affectation that is being presented
for hundreds of transporters has to do

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with the cross- section of Jusiana, the cross- section of SISGA and

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the sovereignty that connects the northeastern of
the country. I am talking to you

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about the departments of Norte de Santander, Santander, of even I go Acá,

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with the eastern plains, Caquetá,
Arauca and, of course, the

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department of Meta Uno notifico very large
because due to the collapses, due to

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the heavy rains that have been recorded, they have been closed for several days

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with total closure these routes opens an
alternate passage Gabriel and Cae another one of

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course in the morning of today,
again another in the cross section of CISGA

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in the stretch of Macanal. And
this has, of course, caused the

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transporters to have to divert to Bogotá
in order to try to get through life

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to the plain by Villa Vicencio.
So a very complex situation. But in

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addition to this, Gabriel Miren,
the entire month of May, the report

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of the Risk Management Unit was reported. Three hundred and fifty emergencies in 27

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departments, in Denmark, for example, six floods, thirty- eight landslides

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in twenty municipalities, as well as
in Will A, Tolima and Meta.

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The population affected at this time is
estimated to be almost fifty zero families,

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thirteen people, unfortunately they have lost
their lives, more than thirty injured,

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almost fifteen zero homes damaged and almost
three hundred completely destroyed and the silver risk

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management to care for them. Well, that' s good, because this

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situation is getting more and more complicated. Let' s talk with our headland

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meteorologist, yes, let' s
go with the climate report and the climax

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on the sides of those who expect
even more rains to increase and near the

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reservoirs that supply Bogotá. A climate
of uncertainty is foreshadowing, because we do

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not know whether or not we will
be able to sing omen for my people

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and on the sides of the deficiency
we need from the national government to have

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the tragedy of the floods in the
moana. Winds loaded with fewer announcements and

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more facts are expected to blow.
Wow I' m hot and about the

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peace we hope there will be in
the stadium stands in the Colombian football finals.

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It is expected that only winds of
good behavior will blow. Who wants

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to misbehave with s o. I' m going to tan next to the

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pool who wants to join me?
And up to here the state of the

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climate and the climate ex and that
brings them the excitement of the meteorology in

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the firefly, in snail and a
little humor to the old walk crazy laughter

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drama, r sir, it will
not make us cry out king in what

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energy, what is called marcía,
practically what ok not, like that for

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the humor, but that good humor. Thank you, sir, if you

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' re in a good mood,
uh, no, sir, but it

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' s for you to come.
No. No, no, but the

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pattern honesty looks. It' s
not an honest job It' s a

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clear pros. I could have done
it. Yes, yes, sir,

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and product, no, no,
no, it' s true, no,

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but yes, no. That'
s the idea comes out, the

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idea is, in fact, you' re waiting in the mood and now

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the hours start. I' m
already surprised to see that they were talking

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two friends, friends of whom,
friends of them. I' m not

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saying anything. Yeah, that'
s what I think, and on TV

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and no friend of the other,
you decided what you call a boomeran who

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doesn' t come back and say
no, because call it whatever he wants,

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he' s not coming back.
My bad, very bad. There

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is no right to God. It' s very bad. A good one.

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I' m not going to lu
Son. Gabriel of the houses is

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gaco rabio. It is in the
afternoon the homeland, the land, I

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say jaca and already in his desire
the questions work us, already covers little

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until he arrives to ask himself questions. Yes, the duckling, how are

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we doing my pa toquita, how
are you, we' re on anesthesia

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today. Yeah, well, that' s no longer early, we'

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re scared if you' ve been
scaring us lately here see two weeks in

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a row of Sian Estés and when
there' s football, then you'

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re in too. So people get
scared yesterday that there was a special,

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a holiday from before too. I' m not much fun. Juan We

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were. It' s that Juan
of that, it' s that Juan

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Pachito Santos, it' s not
that Pacho went out with one. It

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is the truth that it was very
funny without Anesthesia, because, as we

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have already said, the Minister of
TICKE, Mauricio luis Cano, with us

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today. Well gravielito, in that
order of ideas, how would you say

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to claw your vague something a blessed
thorny truth. How do you meet and

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at once ask her what the prosecutor
said about our health system, duckling,

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how do you like to hear it, because duckling is that the Leap Ombudsman,

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Carlos Camargo Assisi I say outgoing because
he has resigned goes to academic work.

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He told the Constitutional Court that he
believes that there are conditions for the

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00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:15.680
unconstitutional state of affairs in the health
sector to be declared in Colombia. What

408
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:19.160
do you eat that with? The
unconstitutional state of affairs is a form of

409
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:25.279
decision that the Court takes when certain
requirements are met to address a situation that

410
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:29.640
is serious, for example, that
there is a massive and frequent violation of

411
00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:32.480
the fundamental rights of a certain population. Health, of course, is a

412
00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:36.920
fundamental right and that this violation is
not due to specific circumstances, but to

413
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:41.039
general problems related to the failure of
certain authorities to fulfil their legal and constitutional

414
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:48.400
obligations. And Attorney General Margarita Cabello
told her at the same time that she

415
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:52.480
agrees, that she does not believe
that the unconstitutional state of affairs has yet

416
00:30:52.599 --> 00:30:57.200
been reached, but that it would
not be exotic if one could get there

417
00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:03.480
and added that today we see how
large and systematic violations of the right to

418
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:06.799
health of Colombians are occurring. The
prosecutor, by the way, also believes

419
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:11.279
that the structure of the system is
disintegrating and insists on something that the atojita

420
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:15.240
government does not like, and is
that the resources that are turned for health,

421
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:18.799
the famous, the famous unit of
payment per capitation, is not enough

422
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:26.039
and the debts of the government for
maximum budgets and their adjustments have caused a

423
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:30.440
word that has used patrimonial that,
it says, is documented in the PSS.

424
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:36.480
It follows, of course, the
differences in concepts between Prosecutor Margarita Cabello

425
00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:40.759
and the Government of President Petro.
Thank you, Don Espinosita, your person

426
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:45.400
being ethics has followed me well.
Don Orlandito, Antojita billiards, how are

427
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:48.359
you doing? I ask you once
and for all what is the novel of

428
00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:53.240
the constituent and the possible re-
election of President Petro, that he says

429
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:56.279
no, that he does not want
releat not yes, that he does not.

430
00:31:56.319 --> 00:32:01.720
No, because there against even three
cabinet dic, what President Gustavo Petro

431
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:05.720
says, which now insists and did
during the weekend of an interview with Cambio

432
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:09.680
magazine, ensuring, because he did
not want re- election, but that

433
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:15.880
if the constituent power is autonomous and
has the discretion to call or not.

434
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:25.240
Well, today we have here last- minute snail on the x- count.

435
00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:30.240
I do not want to re-
elect myself or think that a constituent

436
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:34.440
is the right instrument yet, but
I do not deny that it is a

437
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:37.519
possibility in the future. Do me
is he' s coming back, says

438
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:40.680
the President. Those who criticize me
re- elected themselves. I do not

439
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:47.119
want to re- elect or believe
that one constituent is the right instrument yet,

440
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:52.119
but I do not deny that possibility. Oh, I don' t

441
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:52.680
deny that possibility anymore. It'
s not what it' s called in

442
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:55.400
a future in gravelito right now.
He does not re- elect himself right

443
00:32:55.559 --> 00:33:00.519
now, but he returns to throw
injuries within another eight years and then he

444
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:04.880
does, as he obviously does,
when he looks legally right now is what

445
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:07.480
the specialists have said. There is
no feasibility, there is no legal possibility

446
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:12.720
of a constituent assembly being made without
transit through the Congress of the Republic.

447
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:16.680
That' s official. Now there
is another area, which President Gustavo Petro

448
00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:22.720
is now trying to win, and
it is at the international level, surely

449
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:28.039
to try to demand that possibility from
the international community. And there he was

450
00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:31.640
answering him in that audio we were
listening to a moment ago, President Gustavo

451
00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:36.319
Petro to former President Juan Manuel Santos, who sent a letter to the United

452
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:40.759
Nations, where he warns that no
line within the peace agreement that was signed

453
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:45.319
in the two thousand sixteen with the
extinct grid of the FARK contains a possibility

454
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:50.200
contrary to the current Constitution of the
ninety- one, or some possibility that

455
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:53.880
a constituent national assembly might be convened
in another way. For there you heard

456
00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:58.799
President Petro' s reply that he
told President Juan Manuel Santos that he did

457
00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:01.920
not read. What he signed that
he was not studied, which lasted how

458
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:07.200
many years a noble lex chancellor won
him away It also tells him that former

459
00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:09.800
President Santos never read the peace agreement. And what former President Santos tells you,

460
00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:15.159
who tried diplomatically this morning with Gustavo
Gómez not to enter into that controversy,

461
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:20.719
but diplomatically told him come, you
are committing some inaccuracies. There was

462
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:24.039
a whole technical, legal, advisory
team because it wasn' t just President

463
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:29.679
Juan Manuel Santos, the peace delegates, the external and internal international advisers,

464
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:32.360
even that I had the Gabriel Agreement
and all the support of the United States,

465
00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:39.559
the European Union, Spanish international advisers
from other countries was agreed, and

466
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:43.920
now they didn' t read it
to you. Don gray ay pa tojita,

467
00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:46.400
let me hit a wallowing, then, but to the constituent of the

468
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:53.760
Directorate of San Pedro evolved, because
I tat bathe. So Colombia has to

469
00:34:53.800 --> 00:35:00.480
go to a national assembly. They
constitute and the National Assembly constitute. It

470
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:07.320
must transform the institutions that remain here
not wait for your reelection. We'

471
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:14.000
re being asked. The idea is
not to give me, but it fills

472
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:28.159
and speaks everywhere of constituent. More
importance must be attached to it, more

473
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:58.920
Romes of doctors, the healthtre form
the transporters of insecurity, the confitutemic situ

474
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:32.599
conteves I saw who saw that they
are distractors, they are of rumors and

475
00:36:32.599 --> 00:37:14.920
part desert. They give clarity those
that pay with already and for which the

476
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:28.960
naga light Gabriel of the houses is
radio snail. I, sir, is

477
00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:34.159
that hand in hand, no,
no, yes, the ship was already

478
00:37:34.159 --> 00:37:37.679
malletin. No. No, not
well, all man starting week all in

479
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:39.800
order. Ah, well, well, I' m here at the entrance

480
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:43.280
of Ravi I am, but they
won' t let me in, hey,

481
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:45.960
no, but well, I go
from Gabriel, brother, but they

482
00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:51.320
can' t go in my is
that there' s no one and you

483
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:53.440
can' t that with the doorman
that marks me, that marks him,

484
00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:55.079
little gabrielito does me the favor.
I' m not busy. All the

485
00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:59.800
air marks me cove for about six
Monthito, no more because the return to

486
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.760
me warmed me when law no,
no, don' t pass them or

487
00:38:02.880 --> 00:38:06.960
my cousins arrive and we are full
at home. Ah let' s not

488
00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:12.679
make an open one with the cousins, but it' s not my head

489
00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:15.800
and you prime him too, but
no. Then a problem is hot.

490
00:38:15.920 --> 00:38:21.239
Open me up I' m in
bed I' m having a party tonight.

491
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:24.199
No, please, get out of
there It' s that you'

492
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:28.760
re what you' re doing in
my house, you' re not,

493
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:30.079
Mr Monochila, or here to help
me. Warm me up for six months,

494
00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:32.920
sun for six months and why.
Because, curiously, the police are

495
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:36.679
going to go check out an alarm
thing and arrive in about 15 minutes over

496
00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:42.199
there. Ah how. That'
s right, because they' re going

497
00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:45.159
to check out one thing about the
alarms and cameras, that' s one

498
00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:52.400
thing Then, well, they'
re going there, well, that'

499
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:52.760
s where the yarton is, this
way, well, but I' m

500
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:53.960
going to stop the address come on. But no, sir, but let

501
00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:57.079
' s see what' s going
on, what' s going on,

502
00:38:57.119 --> 00:39:01.280
what' s going on, what' s the scare of so much hiding

503
00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:07.599
by weight and by dollar, because
with this, of the increase in the

504
00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:12.800
seizure of substance whiteish in the form
of Paul Bloids, we' ve got

505
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:15.679
a lot of Traketonian partners running.
I' d better not ask what acronyms

506
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:19.159
meant. He understands me asota.
That' s why you can, yeah.

507
00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:22.280
The other thing is, I want
you to name the panista. If

508
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:25.519
you tell me what the country'
s name is, you call it panita,

509
00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:30.719
yes, yes, yes, yes, but yes, no, but

510
00:39:30.920 --> 00:39:34.639
how so, so, that'
s the alias called that or yes,

511
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:37.039
because I have it here in the
data and you say Wilson Orlando here.

512
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:42.159
Yes, ma' am, that' s what you have then, but

513
00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:45.000
good, but what' s the
news, man, no, how'

514
00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:49.920
s the country doing with the Comiso
figures for these substances, and you'

515
00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:53.519
re right for the government to be
breast- feeding the way it' s

516
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:55.119
coming back, because look at the
drug trafficking issue. Although the figures presented

517
00:39:55.159 --> 00:40:00.400
by at least the national Government and
President liked petro fer a, seizures and

518
00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:06.079
others are increasing, as they are
not felt in the economy. And that

519
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:08.920
' s where, somehow and as
analysts say, this fight against drug trafficking

520
00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:16.239
begins to fail somehow. An analysis
of Portfolio by our colleague RicardoÁvila shows

521
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:22.119
that in the last year drug trafficking
represented more than four percent of the country

522
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:25.840
' s gross domestic product. Or
that' s a historic high. There

523
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:30.480
is also a significant increase, because, if you compare it to two thousand

524
00:40:30.559 --> 00:40:35.079
eight, that figure was at a
two point, three percent. For the

525
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:38.960
two thousand thirteen, when they were
supposed to have given significant results in the

526
00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:44.280
fight against drugs Colombia, that represents
one point two percent of the economy,

527
00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:46.679
that is, that is, it
is almost four times that number has increased.

528
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:52.360
In recent years, two hundred and
thirty thousand hectares have been cultivated,

529
00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:59.159
more than one thousand seven hundred tons
of cocaine have been produced, and that,

530
00:40:59.880 --> 00:41:04.360
together with other illegal activities, such
as illegal gold mining, human trafficking,

531
00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:08.599
because there is an illegal economy in
Colombia that also moves all the money

532
00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:12.719
that launders it. In addition,
through different structures, both national and international,

533
00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:19.079
And what has made even transnational narco- trafficking groups, such as the

534
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:23.159
Aragua Train, how the Mexican cartel, among others, reaches national territory,

535
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:30.039
install and end up operating those illegal
economies that are also sponsored by illegal armed

536
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:37.400
groups. A whole vicious circle Gabriel
that will not be over soon says at

537
00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:42.440
least this analysis published by Portfolio.
Well, sir, not in the van

538
00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:45.599
today Send me the good Spanish.
Well, he' s already God of

539
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:52.320
the send bye- bye, sir
Sports in radio snail. I am of

540
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:57.039
the lion sebastian vargas, oh yes, no, how is life transformed,

541
00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:00.440
how was it to all? I
am from Bogotá, and I want to

542
00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:06.639
support those for friends and anyone who
was out of here and be already supporting

543
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:09.480
them to support the local. Not
I who don' t believe him,

544
00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:17.760
but why am I or or write
those of the lion who blister the leopas.

545
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:22.800
Mr Director, what happened to you? Yeah, yeah, but I

546
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:25.559
' m from here. Then I' m from the leo. Congratulations to

547
00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:30.840
those of Santa Fe, but look
for the present, present, present the

548
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:37.000
whole union. I leave yes,
Mrs Ordoñez, heading for the liberators twenty

549
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:40.440
- seven years that we did not
arrive, as it seemed a pity and

550
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:45.880
it is the first of short tournaments
and obviously, they have every right to

551
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:49.480
celebrate the step to the final,
live the day to day with the yellow

552
00:42:49.480 --> 00:42:52.119
shirt and wait for the matches.
Obviously, and I' ve got a

553
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:53.719
new uniform all in yellow. That
sounds pretty good to me. Look into

554
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:58.360
news before you play football. Yokovich' s not going. Problem with the

555
00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:01.880
right knee. He retires from Rock
Langaros and after twenty years, a finale

556
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:07.800
will have neither Jokovich, nor Rafa
Nadal nor Roger Federer. On beaten land,

557
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:12.519
which is clay, it is where
this great Islam is being fulfilled in

558
00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:15.519
Paris and Nikiner, the Italian,
is the new number one with his move

559
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:20.239
to the semifinal. They announced it
was a nice announcement. The match ended

560
00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:24.079
where he spends semifinals and the journalist
or person of the atple communicates here starting

561
00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:28.360
next Monday was the new number one
in the world at his twenty- two

562
00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:32.760
years of age. Thirty years ago, Colombia won the release Doffine that was

563
00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:37.400
called at the time with Martín Ramírez. Now it' s called Criterion one

564
00:43:37.400 --> 00:43:40.880
dophinea and stage three. Harold Tejada
finished fifth and Santiago Vitrago sixth. This

565
00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:45.840
for the Colombians and, of course, tomorrow morning ten pending in Holt,

566
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:47.840
seventy- four in Bogotá is going
to be the draw of the sub-

567
00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:51.280
20 World Cup. Colombia is going
to be one. It will debut in

568
00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:54.320
Bogotá on the thirty- first day
of August and, obviously, we are

569
00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:58.360
all pending in Copa América mode.
The ones we don' t have equipment.

570
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:00.920
In the finals suddenly some already activated
that chip twenty- eight players.

571
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:06.440
Espina arrived, I say Santiago Arias
Carlos Cuesta arrived and the twenty- eight

572
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:08.159
are ready. Well, sir and
Copa America, what about tomorrow the national

573
00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:13.960
team? I' m heading for
Washington first friendly match on Saturday against the

574
00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:17.119
local team and then against Olivia.
The fifteen in with Ericut owl with Eric

575
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:27.400
no longer l k good man,
ciibe goes to the spill, kid how

576
00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:30.079
goes the selection for the Cup America
that is already leaving. Mr Bacanas,

577
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:36.079
I see you bacana, yes,
bacana. Prof Lorenzo Camel rig fiepe You

578
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:37.599
wanted me to be a ustial gamero. I didn' t agree with Professor

579
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:40.440
Lorenzo. You wanted me to be
a gamero, and after that, Prof

580
00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:45.440
Lorenzo and there, half turn around, I' ll turn around for no,

581
00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:47.719
if I don' t, I
recognize. I wanted to change it

582
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:50.960
first, yes, I wanted to
change it. Yeah, but ten wins

583
00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:54.480
the time of teacher. Then yes, later, at this moment supporting Lorenzo.

584
00:44:55.039 --> 00:45:00.719
Very well it seems to me to
support Lorenzo and I like cha I

585
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:04.559
like that he has not allowed the
journalists to get into the concentration, to

586
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:07.440
take the players to cook everything from
the hotel, to put him to cook,

587
00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:13.280
to put together his TV note.
Players have to be on their own.

588
00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:16.360
Yeah, all right, journalists as
well as sebastián if they stop being

589
00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:17.599
a faggot. No. No,
no, no, no, no,

590
00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:22.440
and since we put the archer not
that stage read the reporter passes the TV

591
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:28.119
note. Don' t juda or
so since that yes, I hope that

592
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:31.360
the teacher Lorenzo and it' s
already urun will bring a good distraction to

593
00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:37.000
the players like that I hired them
the great laughloc wasn' t, yes,

594
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:40.280
motivated perfe. No. I don' t know what that laugh beats

595
00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:52.320
them. What is swallowed honey.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha? That Abreel de las Casas is

596
00:45:52.679 --> 00:46:02.119
Radio helmet to the old lady,
shirt the can dramas or we won'

597
00:46:02.280 --> 00:46:08.199
t be cried. Arrir Rey,
Barrey, in what energy it then seemed

598
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:15.079
practically and for the duck. That' s what two friends are talking about,

599
00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:19.039
friends of whom, friends of them, who tell you, friend of

600
00:46:19.119 --> 00:46:22.280
the other brother. Look at this. This applies to men or women as

601
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:28.800
you see your cute, pretty or
cute partner calling a thousand times and you

602
00:46:29.079 --> 00:46:30.400
won' t even notice what he' s doing, it' s true.

603
00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:36.519
But call your partner Gorda once and
they' ll never forget him,

604
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:42.800
of course because elephants have a very
good memory. Goodbye, no good,

605
00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:52.360
sir no, good- bye,
Gabriel de las Casas is a radio chanco

606
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:55.440
and does not teach in the Lucierna
that in snail Radio Bueno Orlando Villar,

607
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:59.039
how we are reforming. Now,
then, and Gabriel, very tight in

608
00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:02.639
the times we are counting. The
negative is going to be very brave.

609
00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:06.159
Here, therefore, Gabriel, is
that there are twelve working days left.

610
00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:12.079
If you count exactly the days to
which both the sessions in the committees and

611
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:15.159
the plenary sessions in the Congress of
the Republic can be cited, and in

612
00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:20.320
that space, Gabriel, you have
to approve the pension reform that is in

613
00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:22.719
the fourth debate in the House of
Representatives, which is such a video,

614
00:47:22.199 --> 00:47:27.639
it is perhaps one of the main
concerns of the Government of President Gustavo Petro.

615
00:47:28.199 --> 00:47:30.480
But in addition to the pension,
the labor reform, the statutory education

616
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:36.559
law, is at stake, which
has been stuck there on account of some

617
00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:40.079
concerns that are beginning to present about
this project. Implementation of agrarian and rural

618
00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:45.880
jurisdiction. Also the debt ceiling.
Remember that it is another purpose and is

619
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:51.559
to expand that box that the national
government has so that it can have some

620
00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:57.400
more fluid budget money there. So
the task is complicated. What is the

621
00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:00.960
greatest concern of the opposition and this, therefore, is what the national government

622
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:05.360
is considering, are calling for emotions
of censorship of the new strategy. One

623
00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:07.679
was to undo the chorus. They
saw that they did not finally succeed,

624
00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:13.239
because if they succeed in taking one
or two of the opposition to join and

625
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:17.239
finally succeed in passing it, then
now the strategy has been to summon the

626
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:21.480
high officials of the state to political
control. Look, there' s the

627
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:23.559
Minister of Defence, the Minister of
the Interior, the director of the Sthion

628
00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:27.800
Risk Unit, among others. There
are five subpoenas at this time that the

629
00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:30.800
National Director of Intelligence may have placed
him in a viluna five emotions of censorship

630
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:34.280
that have to be given in this
same legislature and that, of course,

631
00:48:34.880 --> 00:48:37.639
will cut the times. So a
complex picture has the national government and as

632
00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:43.639
far as it reads the jam or
what they have been questioning add to that

633
00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:47.079
the risk management investigations. Of course, I bribe the presidents of the House

634
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:52.199
and the Senate who then question why
the proceedings are continuing in the midst of

635
00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:54.960
that political panorama. Well, then, who has a lot of work to

636
00:48:55.039 --> 00:48:59.559
do, as always in reforms and
legislative work, to the Minister of the

637
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:13.679
Interior, who arrives at our healing
me this Galician lucherna healthyly directs Santiago Flojas,

638
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:19.159
Let' s take a deep breath
to be able to aspire to things

639
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:22.000
or Doctor Santiago, how we go, what would have recovered us after that

640
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:24.480
eliminated, but now, Gabriel,
let' s always go forward, Gabriel,

641
00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:28.559
how are greetings to all the compañeros
of Medellín, to the friends of

642
00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:30.199
Medellín, well, to all States, all very well. This I imagine

643
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:32.119
that you also washed your hands not
for the interview we are going to do

644
00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:35.960
this afternoon, because that is the
subject and that is why I invited the

645
00:49:36.000 --> 00:49:37.840
Minister of an Interior, Luis Fernando
Velasco. How are you doing with your

646
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:43.320
hand washing, Minister Hello, Dr
Floja, sorry to tell you, but

647
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:45.840
who should be here should have been
the former risk management director Olmedo Lopez,

648
00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:51.559
because it was he who first put
the money in and now wants the aquaxe

649
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:55.800
the leg Olmedo Thief is not so
good. You can' t do it

650
00:49:55.800 --> 00:50:00.480
anymore. Now I just need to
tell you how sarcastic lionel, I want

651
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:02.280
you to do with whom I want
to talk about handwashing, because like among

652
00:50:02.400 --> 00:50:07.320
ministers, you do nothing but pour
the water, dirty me the truth water.

653
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:09.639
I don' t need to,
because I' m always an expert

654
00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:15.119
at getting out clean and that'
s already a number of governments that I

655
00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:15.000
' ve put my hands in and
better recommend something to improve my health.

656
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:21.320
Doctor in the middle of so much, what do I do in my management

657
00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:24.519
pardon said management better go answer with
irrigation management if you don' t have

658
00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:28.639
to leave right now. We'
re practically asking for a tank car for

659
00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:30.679
whatever gets you here My program is
better off because they' re not funny.

660
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:34.880
Dr Loose at least give me a
hard- fought crackdown. You can

661
00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:37.719
' t. I share that view. Look. If your partner tells you

662
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:40.800
there' s no magic in the
relationship anymore, it' s because they

663
00:50:40.880 --> 00:50:44.199
' re tricking him with another scabbard
up here healthy talking to everyone. You

664
00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:53.519
shrink to God, sir to Ancient
Way mad laughter tama, sir won'

665
00:50:53.639 --> 00:51:01.320
t make us cry arrirey what energy
and what now was practically to see what

666
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:06.280
not for humor, for tron.
That' s more like it, but

667
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:12.039
here it was all now, not
me I almost died and he looked at

668
00:51:12.039 --> 00:51:15.079
me. I looked at it for
a while, yes, but it'

669
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:20.719
s why it' s been raining
to j what' s also That'

670
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:22.519
s why they' re talking to
two friends, friends to whom friends,

671
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:23.800
in fact, the same friends of
all jokes. No, no, sir,

672
00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:28.360
friends are changing pattern and in fact, not all friends are friends with

673
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:30.960
each other, but, because they
are friends, but no, no,

674
00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:35.880
it doesn' t mean that this
friend is also friends with the other joke,

675
00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:37.360
the other guy. Ah ok,
they' re friends, well,

676
00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:40.039
but these are friends of fact.
All right, and I made you a

677
00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:44.079
friend and the other one didn'
t, bro. I' m so

678
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:47.800
afraid of this awful insecurity there is. But I' m so seriously afraid

679
00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:51.920
that the thieves will get in the
house and I' ll set an alarm

680
00:51:52.159 --> 00:52:00.320
and at what early hours they get
very early. What hahahahahahaha a hundred naga,

681
00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:07.840
Gabriel of the houses is snail radio
well follows the Luciernaga on Caracol Radio

682
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:09.639
already comes without Anesthesia. Mauricio Iscano, the STICK Minister, has arrived.

683
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:14.800
Well before that, thorny until when
there' s gonna be time to pay

684
00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:16.239
the half- year bonus, that
is, they do crazy with the premiums

685
00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:19.920
and besides, they don' t
just go crazy and like to look crazy

686
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:22.119
with the ploj No, sir ever, but you' ve done it.

687
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:27.320
Not with other premiums, but with
those, not with these. You cousin

688
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:32.760
lasts little and forgets it, yes, m lasts little. It means you

689
00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:35.800
don' t spend it fast.
Yeah, sure, we' re talking

690
00:52:35.800 --> 00:52:37.280
about the same cousin or some biological. Out there, no, no,

691
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:40.000
no, no, no, it' s all from the front page of

692
00:52:40.119 --> 00:52:43.920
the ticket. We' re that
half- years old. It' s

693
00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:47.000
not that you, you' re
from the premium eat ever, but there

694
00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:51.079
are people who spend money in restaurants
like crazy cata, no, no,

695
00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:54.039
I cousin or you go to and
order a fruit salad where you rausch and

696
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:58.199
there you are given yes or three
hundred twenty- six thousand pesos. The

697
00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:00.159
small portion, The small yes,
yes, the childish dish in the middle

698
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:01.760
of a child, yes. Well, look at all three of you.

699
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:05.440
The cousin, yes, here removing
the prey, yes, yes, zero

700
00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:07.960
has prey. Look at the premium
being paid in two instalments during the year,

701
00:53:07.400 --> 00:53:12.079
the first before June 30th, that
is, they still have what is

702
00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:15.320
missing from this month until June 30th. From there, then, you will

703
00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:19.079
have a fine, a penalty and
the second within the first twenty days of

704
00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:25.440
December. The premium is paid to
all workers on formal contracts. Be it

705
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:29.880
written or verbal. That is very
important and, of course, the premium

706
00:53:29.960 --> 00:53:32.639
is calculated on the basis of the
minimum wage that a person earns. Half

707
00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:37.280
of that salary is paid in June
and the other half in December 30 June.

708
00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:40.920
Before that date, the premium must
be paid. Don' t throw

709
00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:50.519
the cousin away. Put it on
our Armazon platform. Mike n' s

710
00:53:50.599 --> 00:53:54.239
welcome to his Armazon portal, his
curve online shopping portal at anything you want.

711
00:53:55.280 --> 00:54:00.480
What we need is for you to
buy and come back and buy fan

712
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:14.400
regret we offer you the download of
this spectacular song true, it is ideal

713
00:54:14.599 --> 00:54:19.159
for Colombians to rejoice the soul in
the midst of so many corruption scandals and

714
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:22.199
the terrible news for the violence to
your shopping cart. You can also add

715
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:30.360
this spectacular alarm clock. It'
s ideal for you to be awake when

716
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:32.840
you' re called to remind you
what the deadline for taxes in cities like

717
00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:37.360
Bogotá. You' ll be able
to take this incredible away a long time

718
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:45.559
ago. That rucho is perfect for
you to give to the officials of the

719
00:54:45.639 --> 00:54:49.960
Attorney General' s Office and the
Supreme Court of Justice, to speed up

720
00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:53.800
investigations into corruption in risk management,
because so far they have lacked management and

721
00:54:54.159 --> 00:55:00.239
that yes, which is the real
risk. And only until inventory will you

722
00:55:00.320 --> 00:55:09.119
be able to carry at a very
good price this spectacular supersonic plane. It

723
00:55:09.320 --> 00:55:15.239
is perfect for state officials to fly
over the Colombian regions that have been damaged

724
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:20.000
by the forest fires and here,
since the thirty- two year fire,

725
00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:25.280
we will always accompany it. I
love what you expect to enter our online

726
00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:30.480
egg portal, where you can buy
everything you need and also what you don

727
00:55:30.639 --> 00:55:34.199
' t need. The important thing
is that you buy, buy and go

728
00:55:34.719 --> 00:55:44.320
back and buy until our sales catalog
of the armazon portal you see the strange

729
00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:52.440
reality of building, the duciennega.
Faithfully, Gabriel of the houses is Caracol

730
00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:59.679
Radio. Here we start without abespecia
in the uncernague of Caracol Radio and network

731
00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:06.719
more where we have good are of
today we also go out to ask questions

732
00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:09.800
about how is the interconnection, how
is the connectivity. We have a thousand

733
00:56:09.880 --> 00:56:13.159
six hundred and twenty- five answers
later in storytelling. Well, you guys

734
00:56:13.159 --> 00:56:15.360
are watching us on TV. Of
course, they' re watching us through

735
00:56:15.639 --> 00:56:21.239
the Internet they' re listening to
us through radio snails and everything comes together

736
00:56:21.239 --> 00:56:23.000
in every government. In the Mini
what was the Ministry of Telecommunications, before

737
00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:27.760
it was mail and telegraphs, and
today it is the Ministry of the Etic

738
00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:30.280
Mauricio Orizcano, is the Minister of
latig Mauricio Mini, or I say Minister

739
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:35.360
no Mauritius, Mauritius or welcome to
go to the Lystensia, Mauritius, how

740
00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:37.159
Chas is. Thank you, Gabriel
in a greeting to all the people who

741
00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:40.599
are here at the table and to
all the listeners and teledients very good content

742
00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:45.599
to be here, that is the
importance precisely what I was saying I see

743
00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:52.880
us thanks to the fact that we
have a wide and robust technology of TIXS

744
00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:55.800
that goes from television, from TDT, from submarine cables, from what is

745
00:56:55.800 --> 00:57:00.119
called backbonny. Having fiber optics all
over the country. These are experts who

746
00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:05.039
call a transmedia. We' re
in all the media, but not great

747
00:57:05.079 --> 00:57:07.239
what they' re doing. And
thank you for the invitation. Well,

748
00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:08.800
we' ll talk about the stick. But I want to start talking to

749
00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:12.800
you, to a man, like
any Colombian who has suffered from the violence

750
00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:16.800
of this country, how you feel. Well, you' ve been a

751
00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:22.000
representative, Senator Minister, but how
you feel about being Colombian when your father

752
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:24.360
was lying down. How was that
moment of having a kidnapped father, of

753
00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:29.000
seeing him escape the guerrillas come out
as you saw him, how I saw

754
00:57:29.079 --> 00:57:31.039
his family. No, because first
it was the hardest time of my life.

755
00:57:31.079 --> 00:57:35.000
Not only my dad was kidnapped for
nine years, but also my brother,

756
00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:37.880
my brother was kidnapped for six months. My father was kidnapped by the

757
00:57:38.519 --> 00:57:44.079
Far on August 5, 2000 when
I was still in college. I was

758
00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:47.559
finishing college. This was when we
were in the Easter process. The President

759
00:57:47.639 --> 00:57:52.400
pastrans better for us to locate.
And my dad' s been since I

760
00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:57.480
left, since I was in college
until when my dad came back, he

761
00:57:57.519 --> 00:58:00.800
was a Senator of the Republic.
It' s been nine years. They

762
00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:04.000
' re a lifetime. Images a
nine- year- old boy, everything

763
00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:07.000
that can happen. It was a
very difficult time, especially when my brother

764
00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:12.719
who was kidnapped by the pl was
kidnapped, and especially because of the interregnos

765
00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:17.079
that we had a lot of time
without being tested for survival, two or

766
00:58:17.119 --> 00:58:19.599
three years could pass and then it
was a very difficult time. But then,

767
00:58:19.719 --> 00:58:22.920
thank God, everything went well.
In the end and my dad remember

768
00:58:23.239 --> 00:58:27.280
he was released by a guerrilla who
blew himself up with him. He was

769
00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:30.880
not within the sane fit, but
he flew away, walked three days and

770
00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:34.880
already graced. We' re all
good in the family. What do you

771
00:58:34.920 --> 00:58:37.360
think of the peace agreements today?
Mauritius. No. I believe it is

772
00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:40.679
clear that it is the same as
an ordinary Colombian who has not lived,

773
00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:44.880
who has not been touched closely by
the violence sometimes from the big cities.

774
00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:47.760
We do not feel that, unless
it touches us very close and you have

775
00:58:47.840 --> 00:58:51.159
lived it and today you are in
the Government. But those of us who

776
00:58:51.639 --> 00:58:53.079
have lived the war, because that
is a war to which violence has not

777
00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:58.320
moved, because we are aware of
the value of peace. We do know

778
00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:00.400
what the value of peace and the
victims in general is, that I do

779
00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:05.639
not speak a personal name. This
is precisely why we accompany peace with the

780
00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:07.880
pharaohs. In our case, because
I was President of Congress when the peace

781
00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:13.840
agreements were approved. It was up
to me to lead as President of Congress,

782
00:59:14.599 --> 00:59:16.199
and one of the most important steps
that my dad had to do with

783
00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:21.159
that was forgiveness. My dad made
the decision to forgive those who kidnapped him.

784
00:59:21.199 --> 00:59:24.960
He said to keep hating them,
it was to keep chained, it

785
00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:28.239
was to keep being kidnapped. He
dedicated his life to forgiveness. A master

786
00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:30.760
' s degree from Caldas University.
He is a doctorate in forgiveness, at

787
00:59:30.800 --> 00:59:34.400
the University of Santiago de Compostela in
Spain and led us all to forgive.

788
00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:38.639
And really, I believe in peace. I supported him when I was President

789
00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:43.719
of Congress in Santos' government.
We continue to support it now because,

790
00:59:43.880 --> 00:59:46.679
because it is the only way that
we can have a living generation, that

791
00:59:46.800 --> 00:59:51.400
our children live what we did not
have to live, because we have had

792
00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:54.320
how many years of internal conflict of
war and we have not been able to

793
00:59:54.320 --> 00:59:57.480
have a single year in peace.
So our dream is that our children can

794
00:59:57.599 --> 01:00:00.039
live in peace, that they don' t have to live what we had

795
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:04.239
to see. Well, we got
into it. One of our Lucierna characters,

796
01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:06.639
who is the Baby, but she
likes to be treated as a journalist

797
01:00:06.679 --> 01:00:10.760
in these interviews. So let'
s go with a little hair up ahead,

798
01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:14.559
pretty good afternoon hair. Of course
we are, Gabriel, there we

799
01:00:14.719 --> 01:00:19.880
are with our guest Mauricio, straightening
out my stick list Hello, Minister,

800
01:00:20.119 --> 01:00:21.840
O, how you doing Hello,
how are you? I' m going

801
01:00:21.880 --> 01:00:29.039
to answer you with the hostuya no
and I' m not getting into the

802
01:00:29.039 --> 01:00:36.320
paper Hello. How are you?
But if you want, ah give him

803
01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:38.880
the Minister, well, well you, how you are the Minister of the

804
01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:42.639
Tink You. You have three children, right, I have three children,

805
01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:45.000
yes, Juan Emil, same Aleandro, well, she and they tell TV

806
01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:52.159
off a tiktok many times, especially
my daughter, who liked the tiktoks very

807
01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:55.719
much. It' s time to
control your children' s networks, because

808
01:00:55.719 --> 01:00:58.719
the good thing is that they would
do it before they were fourteen years old.

809
01:00:58.760 --> 01:01:02.320
But already inconstable, so I have
to see from. My children are

810
01:01:02.360 --> 01:01:07.480
eleven years old, twins and my
youngest son is eight years old. Well,

811
01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:13.440
and I' ve sent a bunch
of cards, first to see if

812
01:01:13.599 --> 01:01:17.760
the Internet is fixed in the regions
moons. And second, I sent them

813
01:01:17.800 --> 01:01:24.559
for four seventy- two. Adivin
slightly ready. Sometimes they don' t

814
01:01:24.639 --> 01:01:28.119
get there and that' s what
we can do. One for the Internet

815
01:01:28.480 --> 01:01:32.360
and two for the four of the
seventy- two to reach. No,

816
01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:37.159
because we are making a great effort
to improve the engagement in Colombia. Colombia,

817
01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:40.880
because everyone has a cell phone.
There' s more cell phones than

818
01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:45.239
people. Cell phone coverage is high, about eighty- five percent, but

819
01:01:45.320 --> 01:01:51.840
Internet access is only sixty percent of
Colombians have access to the Internet. The

820
01:01:51.960 --> 01:01:54.519
goal that we are working on and
the effort that we are making from the

821
01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:59.519
government that and that with the development
plan is to go from sixty to eighty

822
01:01:59.880 --> 01:02:02.320
- five percent, that that can
put us say in the high- development

823
01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:07.079
countries and that is why we are
making efforts to connect the peaceful, the

824
01:02:07.079 --> 01:02:10.360
guaira, etcetera. We have several
strategies. Four seventy- two, for

825
01:02:10.480 --> 01:02:15.159
it is a vent. Four hundred
and seventy- two is a company that

826
01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:20.239
is experiencing difficulty. Of the mail
companies are experiencing difficulties all over the world

827
01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:24.719
have been changing. We have been
capitalizing four hundred and seventy- two.

828
01:02:25.159 --> 01:02:30.239
At least it' s working and
we' re increasingly cutting down on both

829
01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:34.639
operational and personnel costs so that the
company can get ahead. The goal is

830
01:02:34.679 --> 01:02:37.280
to achieve a balance by the end
of this year. Arisco already in the

831
01:02:37.400 --> 01:02:40.400
last one it has a little bit
of time is that we are already short

832
01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:45.239
of time. Example, it'
s ready for one, four and eight.

833
01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:51.119
You feel nothing, always being the
narrator of the cuenti ycuo. Ah

834
01:02:51.199 --> 01:02:54.519
well, no good. In the
school of the Stick a girl who was

835
01:02:54.599 --> 01:03:00.440
very judicious with her duties until once
the teacher decided to review the task and

836
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:07.639
go surprise. This is what happened. Well, good afternoon, kids,

837
01:03:07.559 --> 01:03:12.920
let' s go over the homework
and let' s start with you Baby

838
01:03:12.960 --> 01:03:15.840
bel who you' re like the
vaquiteest in the course. I want to

839
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:20.199
know if, just as I'
m working, so are you. Oh

840
01:03:20.480 --> 01:03:23.800
profess li iscano, you' re
going to believe it, but my mom

841
01:03:23.960 --> 01:03:29.920
says the city is very insecure.
You know what. I think they stole

842
01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:32.519
my homework. No, no,
no, see, Baby, you can

843
01:03:32.559 --> 01:03:37.519
' t go out here with any
of those excuses that sometimes even come out

844
01:03:37.559 --> 01:03:39.199
to my kids, which is that
there' s no Internet access here,

845
01:03:39.559 --> 01:03:43.039
so that' s why they couldn' t do the homework. Yes,

846
01:03:43.320 --> 01:03:47.199
Professor Liscano, what happens is that
it also affected them so much change.

847
01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:52.199
For example, the neighbor changed the
key in by line. WiFi keys are

848
01:03:52.280 --> 01:03:58.760
always complicated. I understand, baby, but why they weren' t using

849
01:03:58.840 --> 01:04:01.719
it in the house, because there
wasn' t, and when she came

850
01:04:01.719 --> 01:04:06.719
back, she fell. And when
the net fell again, for it was

851
01:04:06.800 --> 01:04:12.719
deceived, when the truth did not
fall into the net. The one that

852
01:04:12.840 --> 01:04:16.360
fell was my mom over him and
not with me it worked on purpose.

853
01:04:17.039 --> 01:04:23.599
To this I would like to ask
Minister Viscano what it will be to bring

854
01:04:23.880 --> 01:04:27.639
the Internet to all schools and schools
if one of the purposes we have from

855
01:04:27.679 --> 01:04:31.159
the Ministry is to connect all schools, if children in Colombia have the Internet,

856
01:04:31.679 --> 01:04:35.239
because they have a world of knowledge
and we do not depend only on

857
01:04:35.239 --> 01:04:39.039
teachers, but on the whole world
of knowledge. In that we solved the

858
01:04:39.119 --> 01:04:43.440
problem of the populated centers. When
I arrived they were twenty- two percent.

859
01:04:43.920 --> 01:04:47.159
We already have it in eighty-
five percent. And it means that

860
01:04:47.199 --> 01:04:49.719
even though the money was lost and
if it was stolen, it was our

861
01:04:49.800 --> 01:04:55.000
turn to see it put the project, we recovered it and today we are

862
01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:56.679
connecting 14, 000 schools. They' re digital centers today. These are

863
01:04:56.719 --> 01:05:00.639
digital centres, no more populated centres
and digital centres. And besides that,

864
01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:05.639
we' re at the moment.
The proposals to connect 3, 000 more

865
01:05:05.719 --> 01:05:10.679
schools were presented yesterday. We made
a bid to connect 3, 000 more

866
01:05:11.119 --> 01:05:14.800
schools and we' re going to
connect even with the government all schools.

867
01:05:14.880 --> 01:05:17.280
That was already a contract we made
last year, that we are connecting one

868
01:05:18.239 --> 01:05:23.599
thousand one hundred seventy- two PD
municipalities also all schools of the fish municipalities

869
01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:28.519
that is, in this government.
The summary is going to end up connecting

870
01:05:28.599 --> 01:05:32.119
at the end of this year around
20, 000 schools, which is about

871
01:05:32.440 --> 01:05:38.320
half of all educational institutions. Colombia
has fourteen zero schools, forty- two

872
01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:42.039
educational institutions. Half of them are
going to be connected, but already some

873
01:05:42.079 --> 01:05:44.719
are connected. So I think at
the end of the government we' re

874
01:05:44.840 --> 01:05:47.760
going to close three, seventy and
eighty percent of all public schools, obviously

875
01:05:48.199 --> 01:05:54.440
public and private schools that forgive,
public elementary and secondary schools that are going

876
01:05:54.440 --> 01:05:57.559
to end up connected at the end
of the government. Well, baby,

877
01:05:57.639 --> 01:06:00.159
we' ll see you in the
interiors together later. Well, Minister,

878
01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:03.280
you guys go on studying, follow
him. You' ve studied. Thank

879
01:06:03.360 --> 01:06:06.079
you very much for nothing. We' re back here studying. We'

880
01:06:06.400 --> 01:06:09.719
re on the net with more news. Well, don Joanni Celis. Let

881
01:06:09.800 --> 01:06:13.119
' s go ahead, Minister,
we made an opinion sound between May thirty

882
01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:16.239
- one and June four of this
year for the Firefly of Caracol Radio and

883
01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:23.320
network more news. We had a
thousand six hundred and twenty- five answers

884
01:06:23.400 --> 01:06:26.039
and you know they go very much
in line with what you just told us

885
01:06:26.039 --> 01:06:29.480
at home. Internet service coverage is
available. Yeah, sixty- three point

886
01:06:29.559 --> 01:06:32.000
two percent. The figure you said, as opposed to thirty- five point

887
01:06:32.079 --> 01:06:36.199
three percent. Whether the poll matches
exactly what they' re going to do.

888
01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:42.440
I think he' s totally Aligerste
have hired the service to have fixed

889
01:06:42.519 --> 01:06:46.440
in his home answered yes seventy-
seven point four percent, not the twenty

890
01:06:46.840 --> 01:06:49.880
- one point three percent. Minister, I want to ask you the first

891
01:06:49.960 --> 01:06:54.280
question about the Telco sector. It
is true, there is a lot of

892
01:06:54.360 --> 01:06:57.039
noise that there is a crisis in
the Telco sector. This is so,

893
01:06:57.199 --> 01:07:00.119
isn' t it, and if
so, what is the cause? What

894
01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:01.960
has happened to the Telco sector in
the world is that the sector of the

895
01:07:01.960 --> 01:07:06.320
world has been reordered? What happens
in the tel sector that a company that

896
01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:12.000
has less than thirty percent of users
or the market is a company that does

897
01:07:12.079 --> 01:07:15.599
not make profits. That is more
or less like the generality in the world

898
01:07:15.960 --> 01:07:20.840
are two or three companies that even
have full competition with two or three companies.

899
01:07:21.239 --> 01:07:25.679
In Colombia we have many more and
we have a company, obviously that

900
01:07:25.719 --> 01:07:29.480
has fifty percent. What has happened
for users, which is good is that

901
01:07:29.559 --> 01:07:32.280
one of the ones with the cheapest
Internet prices, that is, the payment

902
01:07:32.400 --> 01:07:35.159
for only the cheapest in Latin America
has Colombia, because the arpu that is

903
01:07:35.239 --> 01:07:40.320
the income per user, has fallen
in Colombia in the last ten years sixty

904
01:07:40.719 --> 01:07:43.239
- seven percent, that is,
we pay one of the cheapest services.

905
01:07:45.800 --> 01:07:50.400
But that means that in the sector
there will be a reorganisation of the sector.

906
01:07:50.880 --> 01:07:55.480
Last year, I say, he
had a problem, we got him

907
01:07:55.519 --> 01:07:57.639
back, we helped from the government. Today it is going to strike the

908
01:07:57.719 --> 01:08:00.800
final balance of the year, because
of course, it is fine or to

909
01:08:00.840 --> 01:08:04.280
be, because it is a multinational
that is also making a great effort and

910
01:08:04.280 --> 01:08:09.199
because obviously there were difficulties now.
What we can say is that the sector

911
01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:13.239
is adjusting according to the market,
and that is what is really happening in

912
01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:16.399
Colombia, it is with free competition
and of supply and demand, because surely

913
01:08:16.600 --> 01:08:21.880
the market is re- accommodating.
But the good news for Colombians that we

914
01:08:21.920 --> 01:08:26.520
continue to provide a good service,
we have to improve in quality, We

915
01:08:26.760 --> 01:08:30.880
have to continue to provide good coverage. This If there are problems in some

916
01:08:30.920 --> 01:08:34.039
companies like the ones that BOM has
at the moment, it is in bankruptcy

917
01:08:34.760 --> 01:08:41.239
law and that the price, if
it has been greatly reduced the price for

918
01:08:41.279 --> 01:08:45.560
the users. And this rearrangement,
we wait for it to end. But

919
01:08:45.640 --> 01:08:48.560
the investments, especially that we brought
five g of the sector, are still

920
01:08:48.560 --> 01:08:51.159
huge. Between this and the other
year they will invest more than one point

921
01:08:51.279 --> 01:08:56.600
five billion pesos and in the next
ten years two point eight billion pesos.

922
01:08:57.039 --> 01:09:01.199
That is to say, this is
a sector that continues to bring much foreign

923
01:09:01.199 --> 01:09:04.119
investment and investment. More now that
it is needed for a counter- cyclical

924
01:09:04.199 --> 01:09:08.840
policy for all Colombia in technology always
investing and if you also invest the one

925
01:09:08.880 --> 01:09:11.600
that will arrive the most and that
good that, as the minister says we

926
01:09:11.600 --> 01:09:15.119
have one of the lowest Internet services
in Latin America, perhaps compared to Chile.

927
01:09:15.399 --> 01:09:17.399
If, Mr Minister, there is
another sector that is under your protection

928
01:09:17.479 --> 01:09:23.039
and is that of public policy for
radio and television, it turns out that

929
01:09:23.079 --> 01:09:27.159
advertisers are moving towards the digital,
then there are there as some conatos of

930
01:09:27.239 --> 01:09:30.399
crisis, to put it in a
way, that they have thought what the

931
01:09:30.439 --> 01:09:33.399
vision of MINTIC is for for law, plurality and that and that this can

932
01:09:33.520 --> 01:09:39.119
be compensated If within our sector we
say that it is technology and communications that

933
01:09:39.119 --> 01:09:42.840
is weaker and it is necessary to
say against objective communications, because, let

934
01:09:42.880 --> 01:09:48.760
us say that the big companies of
let us say of Internet, for not

935
01:09:48.760 --> 01:09:53.560
to mention them, because they are
carrying fifty percent of the pattern and in

936
01:09:53.640 --> 01:09:57.840
the world the companies that produce social
networks and the other fifty percent, because

937
01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:02.880
it is remaining in what is called
the traditional media. So what we have

938
01:10:02.960 --> 01:10:06.880
tried and continue to try is that
in order to have a good democracy and

939
01:10:08.039 --> 01:10:13.560
to have a good citizenship, we
must continue to maintain our idiosyncrasy. We

940
01:10:13.640 --> 01:10:17.279
cannot rely only on the platforms or
we cannot depend on multinationals, because they

941
01:10:17.399 --> 01:10:23.000
do not take care of our culture, they do not take care of our

942
01:10:23.039 --> 01:10:25.079
values and they do not inform the
day of the Colombians. There' s

943
01:10:25.159 --> 01:10:26.920
what we' ve been trying to
do. There is a great debate that

944
01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:30.920
is in the can today about whether
they have to pay or not to say

945
01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:33.720
the telcos or they have to pay
for them from the Internet that they use

946
01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:39.079
or from the contents that they are
using, that many of those contents,

947
01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:42.239
because they are used by the calo
operators, because it is a debate that

948
01:10:42.680 --> 01:10:45.039
we better not get involved, because
there is a debate that is already in

949
01:10:45.119 --> 01:10:47.039
the can and there is a fight
between the traditional media and the cable operators.

950
01:10:47.439 --> 01:10:50.479
Let' s hope to see what
the KHAN resolves from the government,

951
01:10:50.840 --> 01:10:56.079
because we are trying to help what
is most possible, because for the media

952
01:10:56.079 --> 01:11:00.359
to say traditional, although many have
also become very strong in digital media,

953
01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:06.760
but not many have yet learned how
to turn that economy to make it silver

954
01:11:06.840 --> 01:11:11.760
if the digital media has passed a
lot, but it still does not produce

955
01:11:11.760 --> 01:11:15.119
them without monetizing them. The question
I was thinking about was exactly very well

956
01:11:15.119 --> 01:11:16.399
then, but we are in that
helping to see what can be done to

957
01:11:16.479 --> 01:11:21.399
maintain the country' s communications.
Hey, my minister, we started a

958
01:11:21.720 --> 01:11:26.319
Maluma song with Hawaii VI. I
didn' t ask him why he brought

959
01:11:26.319 --> 01:11:28.479
that song here. They always come
with a song that you guys dance,

960
01:11:28.920 --> 01:11:31.520
you or I don' t have
two songs that I like very much,

961
01:11:31.640 --> 01:11:36.439
decisions by Rubén Blades, yes and
Hawaii because it was with that song that

962
01:11:36.439 --> 01:11:39.399
we met with my wife. Not
because the story has to see if you

963
01:11:39.520 --> 01:11:44.840
can, be game if you don' t. By ah clear how or

964
01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:48.560
or decisions. I shouldn' t
see the decisions, but of course not,

965
01:11:48.840 --> 01:11:51.600
because she explained the song to me. I wasn' t really very

966
01:11:51.640 --> 01:11:55.920
melomaniac until I got married, because
my wife is, and then she explained

967
01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:58.760
the song to me and the story
of the song of what happened coy Ney

968
01:11:58.840 --> 01:12:02.560
Mary and maluma. So with the
story of the song it was that I

969
01:12:02.600 --> 01:12:05.359
took more love for him and with
that song it was that topic of conversation.

970
01:12:05.439 --> 01:12:11.319
And that' s where we start
and that' s how it is

971
01:12:11.399 --> 01:12:14.239
to sing more or less mean.
But I do my best schools. I

972
01:12:14.279 --> 01:12:15.439
was born na, so it is
mejí, but I stayed in manizales,

973
01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:19.159
in quantity. But it' s
land of trovas, land of o.

974
01:12:19.279 --> 01:12:23.000
Let' s go with our troubadores
and invite you to trobar. Sir with

975
01:12:23.239 --> 01:12:28.680
this is yes look. There he
is, there he is, there he

976
01:12:28.760 --> 01:12:30.640
is, there he is, there
he is, there he laughs, mad

977
01:12:30.640 --> 01:12:32.520
kings of the trova. We'
ve got there to let you know that

978
01:12:32.600 --> 01:12:34.880
so I' ve been led by
Christ. Let' s do another,

979
01:12:34.920 --> 01:12:43.279
let' s do two trovas of
example. Do as Liska today our wey

980
01:12:43.479 --> 01:12:49.319
people have this radio wave. Thus, the Minister to Colombia sends a good

981
01:12:49.640 --> 01:13:02.560
signal in the important positions occupied.
That shows that the Lyscan has good connections.

982
01:13:03.199 --> 01:13:08.000
Well now and it' s your
turn, doctor, smart, good

983
01:13:08.000 --> 01:13:15.359
honest. I' ve got a
long antenna, already poorly directed. It

984
01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:25.920
touches me, it has the antenna
very large, but the signal dropped those

985
01:13:26.159 --> 01:13:34.880
batioren I handle artificial intelligence frequently,
with a lot of artificial and little intelligence.

986
01:13:35.319 --> 01:13:42.079
I am artificial sas in intelligence.
The final greeting from Medellin to the

987
01:13:42.159 --> 01:13:54.880
leftist minister, a thousand thanks for
what he does with very good intentions and

988
01:13:55.000 --> 01:14:03.239
to take the Internet to the faraway
regions. And it' s a pleasure

989
01:14:03.359 --> 01:14:11.119
to have the great Lyscan Minister,
who works hard for Colombians every day.

990
01:14:12.520 --> 01:14:15.279
Thank you, thank you very much. Well, and we passed on from

991
01:14:15.359 --> 01:14:19.239
the teachers of Medellin, Master Yamit
welcome to the Luciana, grab more news.

992
01:14:19.359 --> 01:14:26.359
Sinante sea como esta yamid Hello,
sir, how' s it going

993
01:14:26.520 --> 01:14:29.439
with Minister Lizcano. Here' s
Horamen Rond rors now a thousand. Thank

994
01:14:29.479 --> 01:14:32.640
you for inviting me again. As
a gift wever you if he brought you

995
01:14:32.640 --> 01:14:42.359
new news. Yeah, we have
a lot of new news, including everything

996
01:14:42.399 --> 01:14:45.720
we' re working on artificial intelligence. Last week we were, for example,

997
01:14:45.800 --> 01:14:49.800
telling him in Switzerland, in Guinebra
and Colombia was recognized as one of

998
01:14:49.840 --> 01:14:54.079
the developing countries, because there are
two levels that are developed and we,

999
01:14:54.479 --> 01:14:59.680
as we are working on the issue
of implementation of artificial intelligence. I think

1000
01:14:59.680 --> 01:15:08.159
that' s positive news and new
news. It' s not called the

1001
01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:12.359
cro marin. No. No.
No. It' s just that if

1002
01:15:12.359 --> 01:15:15.399
you' re bothered by criticism,
you say no to me, I'

1003
01:15:15.399 --> 01:15:16.439
m not bothered by criticism. Brother, I' m glad this spinosa and

1004
01:15:16.560 --> 01:15:19.600
I didn' t love myself.
I think it' s a good one

1005
01:15:19.600 --> 01:15:24.319
for. That' s not good
news. It' s good news for

1006
01:15:24.319 --> 01:15:27.079
you. I don' t know
if that speaks right or wrong about me.

1007
01:15:27.079 --> 01:15:32.119
It' s not no or no. He knew we were scratching.

1008
01:15:32.159 --> 01:15:43.640
They were just getting curled up.
Or how many you got. He said

1009
01:15:43.760 --> 01:15:50.359
to me forty- seven years old. There' s no overlap in translating

1010
01:15:50.439 --> 01:15:56.079
things into a box that' s
been released from your office. I'

1011
01:15:56.520 --> 01:16:01.159
m more or less not keeping them
in one here when I' m going

1012
01:16:01.319 --> 01:16:16.600
to leave so soon or what do
you think of so many criticisms. How

1013
01:16:17.199 --> 01:16:21.840
to have reviews and comments on social
networks every day. I think it'

1014
01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:30.640
s one of the public' s
res. We' re used to criticism.

1015
01:16:30.920 --> 01:16:34.520
Sometimes you have to listen to the
criticisms and listen to them, because

1016
01:16:34.640 --> 01:16:38.279
many times at least it happens to
me many times that something is disconnected.

1017
01:16:38.520 --> 01:16:41.600
I find out about the networks many
times that by the Ministry. When one

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01:16:41.600 --> 01:16:44.000
is pending, many times through criticism, it is that one realizes that things

1019
01:16:44.079 --> 01:16:46.000
are not right and one, sometimes
one can make decisions was or is translated.

1020
01:17:00.880 --> 01:17:06.039
It was precisely about criticism. Today
I read precisely a trine of yours

1021
01:17:06.159 --> 01:17:11.800
from Mauricio Lizcano, Minister the Las
Tick, precisely because we are having problems

1022
01:17:12.119 --> 01:17:15.399
with some banks and Internet connection,
and today you drew attention to one of

1023
01:17:15.439 --> 01:17:17.800
them. That' s what yamin
asks if I can' t say the

1024
01:17:17.840 --> 01:17:20.600
name of the son. Obviously,
we are not very concerned about the issue

1025
01:17:20.640 --> 01:17:26.560
of Colombia since the weekend is presenting
problems not only in the operating system,

1026
01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:31.039
but also in all virtual banking.
And really this is a country already very

1027
01:17:31.119 --> 01:17:34.560
banked and we have many problems.
I do, I think we have to

1028
01:17:34.600 --> 01:17:38.720
take advantage of it from here,
from those who drew attention in Colombia and

1029
01:17:38.880 --> 01:17:43.279
to the super financial that if they
have to fix the problem is that many

1030
01:17:43.800 --> 01:17:47.720
people are predicted companies that can not
pay their employees, pay them or stop

1031
01:17:47.800 --> 01:17:49.960
the economy because of the problem in
a single bank, besides that it is

1032
01:17:50.000 --> 01:18:04.039
the biggest bank in Colombia. Son
O por s says that why routes are

1033
01:18:04.279 --> 01:18:10.319
strengthening the public media in Colombia,
one in front of the content and the

1034
01:18:10.399 --> 01:18:15.720
other slows down technology. We are
working hard on the transmedia issue, so

1035
01:18:15.800 --> 01:18:17.520
we have just spoken or the media
that are outside the networks or that produce

1036
01:18:17.600 --> 01:18:24.479
content on multiple platforms, because they
are outside the competitive ones of the same

1037
01:18:24.560 --> 01:18:29.840
media and we have a great investment
in public media and especially in regional channels.

1038
01:18:31.159 --> 01:18:36.720
So much investment we made in public
media last year with such national content

1039
01:18:36.800 --> 01:18:42.560
as Emma Reyes, which was very
good, and many others who won twenty

1040
01:18:43.039 --> 01:18:46.399
- one India Catalina, public television
in India Catalina' s last awards,

1041
01:18:46.880 --> 01:18:53.159
and we doubled the investment in the
media let' s say regional, because

1042
01:18:53.760 --> 01:18:56.359
that' s a way for us
to protect television. We cannot invest in

1043
01:18:56.359 --> 01:18:59.920
private media, except through guidelines,
that this is already a decision, let

1044
01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:02.239
us say of the Government, of
all ministries. But if we are making

1045
01:19:02.319 --> 01:19:06.319
an effort to rescue and maintain public
television, in fact, we have a

1046
01:19:06.319 --> 01:19:12.199
very nice project this year and it
is Costry, a public OTTE so that

1047
01:19:12.279 --> 01:19:15.920
we can have all the contents of
public television and an autetes with a kind

1048
01:19:15.039 --> 01:19:19.119
of public NETFLIX that we are working
so that all the contents, because we

1049
01:19:19.239 --> 01:19:28.199
can see them by good networks,
because that is when you have this the

1050
01:19:28.199 --> 01:19:34.840
other not few. Well, not
cell phone for bors I a little flame.

1051
01:19:34.920 --> 01:19:40.680
You' ll be as if gey
clear or if it' s going

1052
01:19:40.760 --> 01:19:45.760
to be the only thing that was
thinking about being clear to you, but

1053
01:19:45.960 --> 01:19:50.279
that the light magna, yes,
callita, yes, is a flame like

1054
01:19:50.279 --> 01:19:55.159
that, but a crass dependent.
I' m going to dream about rum,

1055
01:19:55.279 --> 01:19:57.880
that is. We have five people, the subject works better, five

1056
01:19:57.880 --> 01:20:04.119
Gs. Already my s does not
shrink thanks to Master Jamin Jorge Espinosa of

1057
01:20:04.199 --> 01:20:08.399
our team of the Lucia Ernaga at
this time because it is not melquis that

1058
01:20:08.399 --> 01:20:11.279
you are on vacation and of the
team of six knows me today that Gustavo

1059
01:20:11.479 --> 01:20:15.239
Ministro directs, you have made several
mentions to the five G that was assigned

1060
01:20:15.319 --> 01:20:19.039
the national spectrum in December. At
that time, it was said that the

1061
01:20:19.119 --> 01:20:21.920
regional auction would be April. What
I understand is that it is now August,

1062
01:20:23.039 --> 01:20:28.640
but that there are also those who
say that there is possibly no regional

1063
01:20:28.760 --> 01:20:31.079
market for the five G are going
to maintain the regional auction. We,

1064
01:20:31.359 --> 01:20:35.199
then, had a very successful auction
with the five E. Well, we

1065
01:20:35.239 --> 01:20:39.760
' ve been there before, but
it' s always good to remember from

1066
01:20:39.760 --> 01:20:43.880
ray the potenta. Now I mean, he wasn' t p Tons Spins

1067
01:20:43.880 --> 01:20:46.840
Santas. The three hours we finished
the truths, we had the spreads.

1068
01:20:46.920 --> 01:20:51.239
It was very judicious, of course, very much loved to mock the area

1069
01:20:51.239 --> 01:20:56.520
there. We had a very successful
five G auction. But we realized that

1070
01:20:56.600 --> 01:21:00.880
in the other bands let' s
say no. Not much appetite in the

1071
01:21:00.960 --> 01:21:04.720
middle and low bands, which is
leading us to consider whether this is the

1072
01:21:04.760 --> 01:21:10.880
time in the market to open a
new auction. We what the objective of

1073
01:21:10.920 --> 01:21:15.840
the regional auction which companies like Cali, such as TV, such as the

1074
01:21:15.960 --> 01:21:23.720
EPM itself or small medium enterprises can
also participate in the spectrum. I give

1075
01:21:23.800 --> 01:21:26.920
it this figure which, in addition
to one of a study that we just

1076
01:21:27.000 --> 01:21:30.039
finished and there I give it a
chiva. We believed that the country was

1077
01:21:30.079 --> 01:21:34.720
connected today by the big telcos.
Today, of course, it connects the

1078
01:21:34.800 --> 01:21:38.760
great part of the country, let' s say. The second is you,

1079
01:21:39.479 --> 01:21:42.479
but the third is not moving in
Colombia, the third is small and

1080
01:21:42.520 --> 01:21:47.039
medium. Today 25 percent of the
country is connecting it. Small and medium

1081
01:21:47.319 --> 01:21:51.560
- sized people, especially in the
last mile, in a country like Brazil,

1082
01:21:51.920 --> 01:21:57.560
make it fifty percent. So we' re evaluating whether it' s

1083
01:21:57.680 --> 01:22:00.840
time for the market. We'
re talking to him. You don'

1084
01:22:00.880 --> 01:22:01.239
t know if it' s gonna
be in August? You don' t

1085
01:22:01.319 --> 01:22:02.960
know if it' s gonna be
in August? Because to do some is

1086
01:22:03.119 --> 01:22:08.720
enough. We need it to be
successful, not so much for resources,

1087
01:22:09.119 --> 01:22:14.960
but so much because there are really
people interested in participating in that, in

1088
01:22:15.079 --> 01:22:16.279
that, in that issue. We
also understand that the worst aspect is the

1089
01:22:16.399 --> 01:22:19.520
one that is not used, but
prees we also have to agree with the

1090
01:22:19.920 --> 01:22:24.079
market and this year, for all
that there are movements in the market,

1091
01:22:24.199 --> 01:22:27.000
precisely because of what we are talking
about now with Giovanni' s question,

1092
01:22:27.319 --> 01:22:29.720
because we are seeing what is the
best time to do it. In this

1093
01:22:29.760 --> 01:22:32.239
regard, we are doing what is
called a market study with stakeholders to see

1094
01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:36.199
whether they really care about it or
not, because obviously, all of that

1095
01:22:36.279 --> 01:22:42.399
requires planning, a big effort,
and I don' t know ministers if

1096
01:22:42.760 --> 01:22:46.279
they have already finally decided, after
what they are doing with national financial development.

1097
01:22:46.439 --> 01:22:50.119
Buy Azteca, which is a network
that has fiber optics, but that

1098
01:22:50.479 --> 01:22:55.319
in many regions of the country questions
that have also asked here complain the choco,

1099
01:22:55.439 --> 01:22:58.520
were incommunicado for three weeks. Anyway, it' s a good business

1100
01:22:58.560 --> 01:23:01.479
to buy Azteca for the Colombian state. Others have identified that what are the

1101
01:23:01.640 --> 01:23:05.279
three problems we have today to reach
let' s say eighty- five percent

1102
01:23:05.279 --> 01:23:10.840
of that study I' m counting. The first problem is the transmission.

1103
01:23:11.960 --> 01:23:17.439
We say, the telecommunications system has
as three components the transmission, which is

1104
01:23:17.560 --> 01:23:23.039
what andrred does and towards Azteca.
The other problem is, say, the

1105
01:23:23.159 --> 01:23:25.800
other is the telcos, let'
s say the other part, and the

1106
01:23:25.880 --> 01:23:29.840
others are the last mile, which
is called internet service providers ho and that

1107
01:23:29.920 --> 01:23:34.199
weight within that model. We identify
that we are having some problems in transmission,

1108
01:23:34.640 --> 01:23:41.079
because the system that was built in
the Government of President Sas Santos really

1109
01:23:41.520 --> 01:23:44.840
called the high- speed Internet,
because it is built for a level of

1110
01:23:44.920 --> 01:23:47.560
data, but those that data are
doubling in the world every nine months.

1111
01:23:48.319 --> 01:23:51.920
If the others are exposed, every
nine months we double the data in the

1112
01:23:51.920 --> 01:23:56.960
world, then those networks that were
built for the two thousand thirty, because

1113
01:23:56.960 --> 01:24:01.640
today they are reaching us. Then
we have to build a much more robust

1114
01:24:01.680 --> 01:24:05.279
system. And the other problem we
understand is demand, that is, people

1115
01:24:05.279 --> 01:24:10.079
who no longer have to buy the
Internet. So, in the first solution

1116
01:24:10.119 --> 01:24:14.880
of the telcos because we are working
in Internet connectivity to isa bringing fiber optics

1117
01:24:14.960 --> 01:24:18.159
to the home in the topic of
the transmission. What we' re seeing

1118
01:24:18.319 --> 01:24:25.239
is we' re evaluating whether to
have a public transmission system much more efficient

1119
01:24:25.359 --> 01:24:28.640
than a private system, because the
big problem Colombia has is that we depend

1120
01:24:28.640 --> 01:24:31.199
100% on private teaks always yes, exactly we depend 100% on Azteca

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01:24:31.319 --> 01:24:35.880
and directly private an. Yes,
and internex that provides that service is also

1122
01:24:36.520 --> 01:24:41.479
half private to half public, because
it is communications Ecopetrol. And what is

1123
01:24:41.600 --> 01:24:44.600
being discussed in the center of the
interior of the government is whether, at

1124
01:24:44.680 --> 01:24:48.600
least the transmission one there is a
large public component for us to be able

1125
01:24:48.600 --> 01:24:51.560
to have control, even that that
has another theory of data sovereignty, etcetera.

1126
01:24:51.680 --> 01:24:55.560
But more than anything else, not
to depend on how it happens to

1127
01:24:55.640 --> 01:24:59.800
us today, the private one is
wrong, the government is guilty and today

1128
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:03.039
there is no way many times to
demand it because the contracts that were made

1129
01:25:03.039 --> 01:25:05.439
in that Government. Or he won' t speak ill of the government,

1130
01:25:05.600 --> 01:25:10.439
but he doesn' t hear it. Pae, Minister Finish is that we

1131
01:25:10.520 --> 01:25:16.479
were accused of being known to Colombia, Minister, because of course we all

1132
01:25:16.560 --> 01:25:26.319
know it. Or made of sticks
friend, first of all very good afternoon

1133
01:25:26.439 --> 01:25:29.640
happy that you brought me nita doña
deprez, but he is a minister.

1134
01:25:30.199 --> 01:25:32.880
Or you can' t interrupt like
that because yes, like your name is

1135
01:25:32.960 --> 01:25:38.760
Candia Barreras Rojas, love, nice
to meet you, I wanted to make

1136
01:25:38.760 --> 01:25:40.760
you Minister Dear wanted like that,
dear, dear. He' s dating.

1137
01:25:41.359 --> 01:25:45.359
Well, well, already the sex
influencers are done. Friend, you

1138
01:25:45.479 --> 01:25:53.560
know my daughter and she said dearly
even if you don' t believe it,

1139
01:25:53.920 --> 01:25:56.439
we have many things in common.
Friend, for example, Friend,

1140
01:25:56.520 --> 01:25:59.760
while you work all day from the
Ministry of ICT, I did what happened

1141
01:26:00.039 --> 01:26:03.479
all day, tikto tiktok. Friends, you know, dear, tell him

1142
01:26:03.560 --> 01:26:08.840
I feel sorry for the minister days
we' re best friends, true that

1143
01:26:08.840 --> 01:26:12.279
' s why friends like that is
love, friend, while you, with

1144
01:26:12.359 --> 01:26:15.079
the ministry, keep your hair up, I' ll make you ready with

1145
01:26:15.079 --> 01:26:18.159
my keratina. Friend, Friend,
Friend, Friend, I' ll tell

1146
01:26:18.159 --> 01:26:21.000
you that. Dude, I want
to ask you something, since I'

1147
01:26:21.079 --> 01:26:26.399
m here sitting next to you taking
advantage of your great presence. Dude,

1148
01:26:26.800 --> 01:26:30.840
we' re here in confidence,
right, in total confidence. No one

1149
01:26:30.880 --> 01:26:33.600
' s asking us. Yeah,
I' m worried, buddy. I

1150
01:26:33.760 --> 01:26:38.760
' m worried, my friend.
I ask you what is done from the

1151
01:26:38.800 --> 01:26:44.359
Ministry of ICT to support thousands of
content creators like me, love. What

1152
01:26:44.479 --> 01:26:46.560
they are doing, because the first
thing we would sound like but crane,

1153
01:26:46.800 --> 01:26:50.840
which we have said a lot,
is to maintain connectivity, because if there

1154
01:26:50.880 --> 01:26:55.159
is more connectivity, there are more
people who can reach them and more interaction.

1155
01:26:55.720 --> 01:26:59.159
We also have a program called power, which has a lot to do

1156
01:26:59.199 --> 01:27:04.079
with artificial intelligence, but which is
also developing innovation ecosystems in the regions.

1157
01:27:05.199 --> 01:27:09.640
There are many companies there that are
content producers, that is, today the

1158
01:27:09.680 --> 01:27:12.600
content is already a big company,
that is to say already one. They

1159
01:27:12.640 --> 01:27:17.159
cannot have content producers as amateurs who
are playing behind content producers. In Colombia

1160
01:27:17.600 --> 01:27:23.560
there are already large companies, there
are big entrepreneurs that produce billions of pesos,

1161
01:27:23.720 --> 01:27:27.119
not only in Colombia, but in
the world. And then, through

1162
01:27:27.239 --> 01:27:32.319
that project called power in the regions, people can apply. Let' s

1163
01:27:32.760 --> 01:27:36.439
say some support in that and other
competitiveness projects that we have to undertake.

1164
01:27:36.760 --> 01:27:41.239
Okay. Thank you, friend.
I loved the Tig class I loved American.

1165
01:27:42.199 --> 01:27:45.079
Not what you say, they do. Okay. Thank you, Don

1166
01:27:45.119 --> 01:27:46.920
Joan and Celli and close more news. Mr Minister, how do you go

1167
01:27:47.039 --> 01:27:51.279
in to play that famous strategy of
enabling communal action boards to provide Internet services

1168
01:27:51.359 --> 01:27:59.199
and I ask you whether you have
or how to ensure that Colombians' privacy

1169
01:28:00.239 --> 01:28:04.199
is protected because they look. We
have a country disconnected. To that disconnected

1170
01:28:04.239 --> 01:28:09.319
country and then, honestly, the
telco have not arrived. And the telco

1171
01:28:09.399 --> 01:28:11.399
hasn' t arrived because the market
hasn' t arrived. That is,

1172
01:28:11.439 --> 01:28:14.520
when there is supply and demand,
if people have nothing to buy, because

1173
01:28:14.960 --> 01:28:17.600
there does not come the supply of
companies, that is a reality here at

1174
01:28:17.640 --> 01:28:21.359
any point in the market. Then
we have found ourselves a very disconnected country,

1175
01:28:21.640 --> 01:28:26.920
where economies of scale do not give
to big companies and where we have

1176
01:28:26.960 --> 01:28:31.439
areas where there are fifty inhabitants scattered
on a mountain and that do not arrive.

1177
01:28:31.479 --> 01:28:35.520
So this is an idea of the
President who really showed up and we

1178
01:28:35.560 --> 01:28:39.920
' ve already tested him. It' s fabulous that it' s connective

1179
01:28:39.960 --> 01:28:43.800
communities or Internet boards. We talk
to the boards of the commune boards,

1180
01:28:45.039 --> 01:28:49.199
the Internet boards, and we form
them, we train them, we give

1181
01:28:49.279 --> 01:28:55.520
them the equipment and they return to
Internet service providers. Coron' s not

1182
01:28:55.520 --> 01:28:58.920
free. It' s not for
free service. They have to corona social

1183
01:28:58.960 --> 01:29:01.319
rate between thirty and forty thousand pesos
and those revenues do not go to the

1184
01:29:01.359 --> 01:29:06.039
government, if they go to the
same communal action board to grow, to

1185
01:29:06.600 --> 01:29:11.119
grow the service. This year we' re going to end up with three

1186
01:29:11.199 --> 01:29:13.319
zero communal action boards. We'
ve been all over the country. They

1187
01:29:13.359 --> 01:29:16.880
are really spectacular experiences, because in
addition people learn to do the technical part.

1188
01:29:17.239 --> 01:29:21.880
Then knowledge remains in the Community.
Really connecting Internet fiber optics or fiber

1189
01:29:23.319 --> 01:29:25.800
is not difficult. It' s
a little wire like the one you actually

1190
01:29:26.399 --> 01:29:29.279
put in the house and if,
besides they have to charge someone' s

1191
01:29:29.319 --> 01:29:31.760
Internet, then, because they also
move the whole ecosystem, the whole ecosystem,

1192
01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:33.479
but how do they do for that
illegal money. The illegal groups do

1193
01:29:33.520 --> 01:29:36.760
not go in there, because they
are exempt from that being the regions.

1194
01:29:36.880 --> 01:29:41.039
They are far away, no,
because it is really the Community that pays,

1195
01:29:41.199 --> 01:29:43.760
an invoice of 20, 000 pesos, because which illegal group will pay.

1196
01:29:44.079 --> 01:29:47.039
Nor can we prevent illegal groups from
buying a cell phone or buying a

1197
01:29:47.159 --> 01:29:51.239
sincar, but it is in the
normal world of commerce. But there'

1198
01:29:51.319 --> 01:29:54.560
s no act there. He'
s at risk of illegal groups, because

1199
01:29:54.600 --> 01:29:57.199
he' s the one who takes
control, for example, he' s

1200
01:29:57.199 --> 01:30:00.479
at home. But today, let' s say they wouldn' t have

1201
01:30:00.560 --> 01:30:02.640
to take it, because the same
is true, because the risk is in

1202
01:30:02.640 --> 01:30:05.279
Colombia. There are all over the
world of business, but in principle there

1203
01:30:05.319 --> 01:30:09.880
is the Community Action Board. It' s the popular power, it'

1204
01:30:09.880 --> 01:30:13.960
s the people doing it, becoming
s fish and it' s a model

1205
01:30:14.000 --> 01:30:15.880
that we' ve already tried.
We already have several running chilvicito in the

1206
01:30:15.880 --> 01:30:19.960
Guaira, we have several in the
tello, in Willa, we have several

1207
01:30:19.960 --> 01:30:23.920
and they work perfect, because we
do not put a satellite antenna. They

1208
01:30:23.960 --> 01:30:26.920
lower the Internet, carry it on
a cable from the house, charge thirty

1209
01:30:27.000 --> 01:30:31.119
thousand pesos, provide the service and
that has asked us to close the right

1210
01:30:31.520 --> 01:30:34.640
and such and empower the communities.
It really worked really well. Well,

1211
01:30:34.680 --> 01:30:38.319
Minister, you' ve come here
to Caracol Radio now twenty with Diana Calderón.

1212
01:30:38.720 --> 01:30:41.279
I have come now twenty with Milana
Calderón. Yes, yes, well,

1213
01:30:41.359 --> 01:30:45.840
get ready because it' s 20
o' clock if you don'

1214
01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:51.720
t get out of here without Anesthesia
Diana Calderón and Lora 20. I am

1215
01:30:51.840 --> 01:30:57.279
Diana Calderón and the debate and I
address it a greeting for the listeners who

1216
01:30:57.359 --> 01:31:00.840
tune us in on streaming, not
that we have the Minister on streaming and

1217
01:31:00.920 --> 01:31:08.439
then they will look for our content
on our social networks and on our social

1218
01:31:08.640 --> 01:31:14.600
networks like Instagram, ex ante,
Twitter or YouTube and Facebook Life. For

1219
01:31:14.680 --> 01:31:18.479
my part, I' m choral. I was born in Granada. I

1220
01:31:18.560 --> 01:31:21.319
' m in charge here I'
m saying he hasn' t listened since

1221
01:31:21.319 --> 01:31:25.359
the no. Gabriel I refuse,
no, no, why they put this

1222
01:31:25.560 --> 01:31:30.119
bit on me today' s topic
in Colombia. Those who should have better

1223
01:31:30.239 --> 01:31:36.279
connectivity the invited panelists. Antonio Navarro. There' s no Antonio Navarro,

1224
01:31:36.880 --> 01:31:42.159
sorry, there' s no Antonio
Navarro, but there' s Vice President

1225
01:31:42.159 --> 01:31:48.640
France Marquez. Special is the Vice
President, the Minister of Finance, Ricardo

1226
01:31:48.640 --> 01:31:53.920
Bonilla. Good afternoon and ana,
thank you very much for the invitation the

1227
01:31:54.039 --> 01:31:58.960
Mayor of Medellin, Federico Gutiérrez,
to what better or not, Mayor,

1228
01:31:59.119 --> 01:32:03.720
and also the minister of the TICK
Mauricio Iscano. How did it go,

1229
01:32:03.720 --> 01:32:10.840
Minister? I look great, Diana
here to discuss with me. It'

1230
01:32:10.840 --> 01:32:14.680
s questioning, contesting, debating.
This is my thing. The calm debate,

1231
01:32:14.880 --> 01:32:20.199
Minister, I address a greeting to
my colleague I vanicated the network director

1232
01:32:20.439 --> 01:32:26.319
more news and it will always be
a pleasure to invite him. The most

1233
01:32:26.439 --> 01:32:30.880
important thing is that I will remind
you that the debate was said by me,

1234
01:32:31.239 --> 01:32:33.680
Diana, of course I have it, of course you are the one

1235
01:32:33.680 --> 01:32:36.920
who banded in the debate. But
when I go net over there I'

1236
01:32:36.920 --> 01:32:43.239
ll drive anyway, don' t
get too comfortable in that chair starts scene

1237
01:32:43.239 --> 01:32:45.680
starts starts. Federico Gutierrez, mayor
of Ledellin. Well, Diana, look

1238
01:32:45.760 --> 01:32:50.359
at the lack of connectivity between the
national government and many of the mayors here

1239
01:32:50.439 --> 01:32:55.239
in the president has made us ugly. In my case, I am waiting

1240
01:32:55.359 --> 01:32:59.439
for you to receive me to talk
about projects or if you do not receive

1241
01:32:59.520 --> 01:33:01.560
me, but give me the sight
for the city, because, as I

1242
01:33:01.560 --> 01:33:04.039
said, silver is silver. Well, those are teenage words. Federico,

1243
01:33:04.239 --> 01:33:08.680
how to say that. You have
to think before you talk there. Relax,

1244
01:33:08.800 --> 01:33:11.840
Ricardo, that I' m big
and I know very well what I

1245
01:33:11.840 --> 01:33:14.119
' m saying, but it'
s been very complicated to beat. But

1246
01:33:14.159 --> 01:33:16.880
I still tell you that you have
to end the disconnect between the government and

1247
01:33:17.119 --> 01:33:20.319
its bench in Congress, because they
knew they' re called the bench,

1248
01:33:20.840 --> 01:33:28.159
because they only go to session every
time they feel like it. Oh what

1249
01:33:29.199 --> 01:33:36.920
exactly and just came phrase sea wanted. I greet the other fellow cocktail bartenders.

1250
01:33:38.159 --> 01:33:42.880
It' s the same thing.
There is a lack of more connectivity

1251
01:33:42.960 --> 01:33:46.479
between the remote regions of the country
and the Government in Bogotá. And that

1252
01:33:47.319 --> 01:33:51.119
' s only achieved with better Internet, the one that comes through the so

1253
01:33:51.800 --> 01:33:59.199
- called comic fiber, fiber optics. That' s not even what Bacano

1254
01:33:59.199 --> 01:34:03.199
Minister Lyscan says. That' s
what you can see, Minister, so

1255
01:34:03.199 --> 01:34:05.680
look. We, as we said, have the goal of arriving eighty-

1256
01:34:06.079 --> 01:34:10.880
five percent and today we are doing
maybe some nicer projects that we are doing

1257
01:34:10.920 --> 01:34:14.680
with ISA with the Internet. That' s where we' re going to

1258
01:34:14.680 --> 01:34:17.439
connect to the minister. You had
to read the free will conner o.

1259
01:34:17.560 --> 01:34:23.119
It' s going to be that
bon two are leaving, but I'

1260
01:34:23.239 --> 01:34:28.880
m going for the egg ste,
the book all for the same. Free

1261
01:34:29.000 --> 01:34:30.520
here told you we' re going
to connect four hundred thousand places. That

1262
01:34:30.520 --> 01:34:34.479
' s what I was going to
tell you now, Hratro, it would

1263
01:34:34.600 --> 01:34:41.479
be uncides you can' t miss
the opportunity. But here in another bit

1264
01:34:41.560 --> 01:34:45.640
I know if we give you how
many hours, Minister, not three hours.

1265
01:34:46.600 --> 01:34:48.720
You have three hours, Minister,
but let' s leave it at

1266
01:34:48.720 --> 01:34:53.800
that. Done, you should r
not want to do with a quiet little

1267
01:34:53.800 --> 01:34:58.159
boy. Not my friends, but
those who should improve connectivity should only be

1268
01:34:58.239 --> 01:35:01.359
high- level government officials. Or
that, measured by the impressive disconnection that

1269
01:35:01.399 --> 01:35:04.920
has occurred when it comes to responding
to teachers for the failures in their health

1270
01:35:05.000 --> 01:35:09.920
service, more disconnected have not been
able to be already. Paste, you

1271
01:35:09.960 --> 01:35:13.279
speak very tasty, but who answers
then the ticket I miss for me gives

1272
01:35:13.279 --> 01:35:15.520
me. But we do things right
if we want to see them in another

1273
01:35:15.600 --> 01:35:18.039
negative way, because it put him
in disconnection. You guys. There is

1274
01:35:18.079 --> 01:35:25.159
the disconnection or a little bit of
rich people who stop us molaring the debate

1275
01:35:25.159 --> 01:35:30.000
to the canon, or Federico,
here fights better said so far lora twenty,

1276
01:35:30.359 --> 01:35:33.239
my mom, what opinions, friends, well, a little humor,

1277
01:35:33.520 --> 01:35:40.800
rather at six forty- six minutes
ago, finally on here and who knows

1278
01:35:40.920 --> 01:35:46.600
his backpack, what do you do
and we don' t know where it

1279
01:35:46.760 --> 01:35:49.119
comes from, where it is or
who brings it. But why is it

1280
01:35:49.239 --> 01:35:58.840
always so, do me a favor
ja where I was getting over the you

1281
01:35:58.880 --> 01:36:00.520
How' s he gonna give you
a little tik before the dongres joke?

1282
01:36:00.520 --> 01:36:02.920
Tell me to see, sir,
and say hello. First to speak the

1283
01:36:02.920 --> 01:36:05.119
Minister good to see you. I
don' t know I had eaten it

1284
01:36:05.119 --> 01:36:12.079
already. All of a sudden,
I' m fine with a lady coming

1285
01:36:12.079 --> 01:36:15.079
to an office. Yes, Miss, good afternoon, it' s just

1286
01:36:15.119 --> 01:36:19.279
that I have a tick and so
it was the Minister of Stick and yes,

1287
01:36:19.720 --> 01:36:25.319
the doctor will attend. Oh,
God, yes, yes, Miss,

1288
01:36:25.680 --> 01:36:27.239
yes, yes, the Miss is
going to take care of you.

1289
01:36:27.640 --> 01:36:31.760
Thank you, Miss. When the
doctor came in, Doctor, it'

1290
01:36:31.840 --> 01:36:39.600
s just that I have this tick
and the doctor here we' re gonna

1291
01:36:39.600 --> 01:36:43.520
fix it. There it lasted about
three hours, as a month he met

1292
01:36:43.560 --> 01:36:46.119
a friend who called Mauricio, ah
but from another country and another country and

1293
01:36:46.119 --> 01:36:50.880
they did call him Mauricio who grabbed
him with Wishon Televar and Mario. How

1294
01:36:50.920 --> 01:36:55.800
' d it go with the ting
thing? I' m saying that'

1295
01:36:55.800 --> 01:37:01.239
s over the top. Well he
drank now so he in this joke intervenes

1296
01:37:01.319 --> 01:37:04.119
to joke to non granite, which
are the originals. No, but in

1297
01:37:04.199 --> 01:37:10.720
Medellin they do that the interitated joke
represented everything authorized by the Ministry of the

1298
01:37:10.760 --> 01:37:15.159
STICK. How the joke acts Don' t say it' s piracy,

1299
01:37:15.279 --> 01:37:17.279
no, no, it' s
already out of style to stone, yes,

1300
01:37:17.399 --> 01:37:18.479
it' s not represented to go
out of style. You' re

1301
01:37:18.600 --> 01:37:24.119
absolutely right. Not just here is
the minister tech is the new tech lathe

1302
01:37:24.399 --> 01:37:29.680
this five and five. I'
ve taken you, like, sixty years

1303
01:37:29.680 --> 01:37:36.399
until you got married. The Prime
Minister of the Cabinet, Mr Mauricio,

1304
01:37:36.520 --> 01:37:40.079
and Lyscano ah yes bad country,
are taking part in this joke. Yes,

1305
01:37:40.119 --> 01:37:44.640
sir, in the role of prosecutor. In this case yes and Ztto.

1306
01:37:45.760 --> 01:37:50.199
It is, it is the same
tic but inverted teustes is lexicon for

1307
01:37:50.479 --> 01:37:57.680
the ministry exists the dislés and with
it, sir and this friend of you

1308
01:37:58.079 --> 01:38:00.439
in the role of the other,
Mr Campe If not Campes, Yes,

1309
01:38:01.600 --> 01:38:05.359
Mr peasant Libretos and Dirección General Graviel
de las Casas and Enrique Segovia do not

1310
01:38:05.439 --> 01:38:08.039
ask if don Enrique knows Dr Niscano. Yes, of course I do.

1311
01:38:08.079 --> 01:38:10.600
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it' s been a while since Dr List

1312
01:38:10.600 --> 01:38:13.439
wasn' t. I well,
beings also white Giovanni, how I do

1313
01:38:13.520 --> 01:38:16.359
well, deserve to see it and
Dr Espinosa, good Esters Marcelli, Indian

1314
01:38:16.359 --> 01:38:20.399
well late to this program that is
a nest. You tell him his a

1315
01:38:20.439 --> 01:38:24.800
nice sminous merce and I wanted to
say no, so I didn' t.

1316
01:38:24.920 --> 01:38:27.359
It' s just that I mean
I think the Ministry is coming and

1317
01:38:27.479 --> 01:38:30.399
I' m being punished for telling
you, for telling you to lend yourself

1318
01:38:30.399 --> 01:38:34.319
to me. Yes, right,
ah Libretos and Dirección General Grebel de las

1319
01:38:34.319 --> 01:38:38.640
Casas and Enrique Se Govierno is supervision
Alessandra Montoya, the first voice of the

1320
01:38:38.760 --> 01:38:45.760
radio inaugurated the did not see him
Manuel Murillo Toro was the microphone to the

1321
01:38:45.760 --> 01:38:55.079
has or his mummie vote of who
accompanied me in the amiga. When he

1322
01:38:55.319 --> 01:38:58.159
arrived, he remembered television in Colombia
otorde in the year fifty- three one

1323
01:38:58.159 --> 01:39:01.239
hundred and five thousand seven three thirty. He was tempted to support eight out

1324
01:39:01.359 --> 01:39:06.000
of sixty- nine. Not to
see Pedro Idealessita had the microphone ro genera

1325
01:39:06.319 --> 01:39:15.319
ro Bueno now supervision Billiard and the
minister and thorny. How new, sir

1326
01:39:15.720 --> 01:39:20.680
Such a year. Thank you.
One day there was a peasant there in

1327
01:39:20.800 --> 01:39:27.560
his tamar chambo and here, when
he interspectively saw that there was a bagel

1328
01:39:27.560 --> 01:39:32.199
full of politicians. The baglet went
up, suffered mechanical brake damage and turned

1329
01:39:32.359 --> 01:39:39.560
to its sieve quickly the peasant opened
a hole, a common josa and buried

1330
01:39:39.720 --> 01:39:45.159
the dead corpses of the dead.
When he was already leaving home, he

1331
01:39:45.199 --> 01:39:54.439
arrived at a prosecutor' s office. Let' s hear that matica welcome

1332
01:39:54.439 --> 01:39:58.920
to Mr Game, Ct and Iscalia
cinematario, where I can serve you as

1333
01:39:59.000 --> 01:40:01.279
a representative of the prosecution. I
demand that you clarify to me what you

1334
01:40:01.359 --> 01:40:03.960
did with the injured politicians. If
you won' t believe me as a

1335
01:40:04.000 --> 01:40:06.439
Lyscan doctor, but I did what
I did and went to open a hole,

1336
01:40:06.680 --> 01:40:11.800
a common josa and buried all the
politicians in that hole, and maybe

1337
01:40:11.800 --> 01:40:15.319
they were all dead, because one
said no. But since politicians are such

1338
01:40:15.359 --> 01:40:19.720
lies but don' t leave us, yes Thank you very much. Don

1339
01:40:19.720 --> 01:40:24.800
Fediondo. Orlando Billiards is our editor- in- chief of the Caracol news

1340
01:40:24.800 --> 01:40:30.119
service. Villar Good afternoon. He
provided good afternoon coverage of the topic of

1341
01:40:30.199 --> 01:40:33.840
public transport platforms. Last year,
a project was submitted to the Congress of

1342
01:40:33.880 --> 01:40:38.319
the Republic. They finally pulled him
out. They said they were going to

1343
01:40:38.399 --> 01:40:43.920
be a concertation table and even announced
a public policy to regulate this issue.

1344
01:40:44.920 --> 01:40:47.119
This legislature was not seen. Public
policy has not been seen. What are

1345
01:40:47.199 --> 01:40:49.399
you going to do about this discussion, Minister, and what are you going

1346
01:40:49.479 --> 01:40:54.039
to do with these transport platforms,
because the first thing to say is that

1347
01:40:54.119 --> 01:40:58.279
this is really a problem, as
you say, of public transport insofar as

1348
01:40:58.279 --> 01:41:02.000
Colombian legislation, because it puts a
number of requirements on which who can provide

1349
01:41:02.119 --> 01:41:08.800
the public service and who do not
within that regulation. Well, platforms,

1350
01:41:08.880 --> 01:41:12.079
let' s say, don'
t comply with part of that regulation.

1351
01:41:12.560 --> 01:41:16.560
Then the Government has been the head
of the Minister of Transport, who has

1352
01:41:16.640 --> 01:41:20.359
led these working tables. He has
been, then, meeting with the industry

1353
01:41:20.439 --> 01:41:26.960
to see how, then, he
forces the platforms or how he can do

1354
01:41:27.039 --> 01:41:30.600
to reach an agreement that can be
lent. Let' s say the two

1355
01:41:30.720 --> 01:41:34.840
services in compliance with the rules it
requires, because how obliged today the Colombian

1356
01:41:34.920 --> 01:41:41.279
Government and the Colombian State to provide
public service from our side, really we

1357
01:41:41.359 --> 01:41:43.399
are very little what we can do. A lot of people say and why

1358
01:41:43.479 --> 01:41:45.119
don' t they disconnect? Number
Why don' t you disconnect? Because

1359
01:41:45.279 --> 01:41:49.039
Colombia has a law that is called
technological neutrality and on that law of technological

1360
01:41:49.119 --> 01:41:54.079
neutrality we are not allowed to suspend
the Internet. The Internet is almost a

1361
01:41:54.159 --> 01:41:58.800
right of Colombians. And then,
that' s why we can' t

1362
01:41:59.279 --> 01:42:01.119
remove any of the platforms that are
there. It is a problem that needs

1363
01:42:01.199 --> 01:42:05.399
to be solved more in these months
of work than yes, I think they

1364
01:42:05.439 --> 01:42:10.399
have been slower than necessary, but
it is where they have to be solved

1365
01:42:10.439 --> 01:42:14.279
with the entire sector and data law
Ministers that originated in the Data Congress is

1366
01:42:14.359 --> 01:42:17.279
going very well. The Government has
other priorities. You think so, yes,

1367
01:42:17.560 --> 01:42:20.319
you' re going to leave Congress
later. Today he threw it away

1368
01:42:20.560 --> 01:42:25.399
Look. Imagine that we presented it
a fortnight ago and today it was approved

1369
01:42:25.560 --> 01:42:29.479
by the Commission in the first unanimous
debate. All the members of the Commission

1370
01:42:29.520 --> 01:42:33.680
voted for it because that law is
really very important to the country for three

1371
01:42:33.680 --> 01:42:38.880
things. One is the basis of
artificial intelligence. No data, no data,

1372
01:42:38.960 --> 01:42:45.920
no artificial intelligence. And two not
month center. I got the mechan

1373
01:42:46.399 --> 01:42:50.520
All these of the law. Then
it is very important for the production of

1374
01:42:50.560 --> 01:42:56.159
artificial intelligence, for the decision-
making of the country in data and for

1375
01:42:56.479 --> 01:42:59.960
something that is my dream as Minister, and it is that Colombia is not

1376
01:43:00.199 --> 01:43:02.680
a consumer of technology, but a
producer of technology. All the effort we

1377
01:43:02.720 --> 01:43:08.520
' re making is for Colombians to
become technology producers and not just consume.

1378
01:43:09.399 --> 01:43:13.960
Okay. Thank you, Mr Ira, you' re a Minister ton hydrauli

1379
01:43:14.039 --> 01:43:18.000
allow me, but it' s
not not just fat from but from two

1380
01:43:18.079 --> 01:43:21.199
days ago so much, don'
t get me back in the car,

1381
01:43:21.199 --> 01:43:23.479
you don' t have it for
me. A while ago Minister, not

1382
01:43:23.640 --> 01:43:26.319
if I' ve been told that
my cra but it' s like my

1383
01:43:26.319 --> 01:43:28.479
Internet is so slow, it'
s slower than old. Never do automatic.

1384
01:43:29.439 --> 01:43:31.119
Not you, sir, you respect
the lens, you go astronaut,

1385
01:43:32.000 --> 01:43:35.199
or I think you don' t
have to do anything. Here. Well,

1386
01:43:35.319 --> 01:43:36.840
well, well, you don'
t get used to it. I

1387
01:43:36.840 --> 01:43:40.960
feel here like when you go on
the Internet and say accept, Coquis that

1388
01:43:41.000 --> 01:43:46.439
is that sheath. Yeah, yeah, yeah, don' t talk the

1389
01:43:46.439 --> 01:43:48.800
microphone anymore. You don' t
exactly accept it, Coquis. They know

1390
01:43:48.840 --> 01:43:53.880
Adrián to explain to you a more
certain one where you are giving permission for

1391
01:43:53.880 --> 01:43:57.039
all your information. If you put
these great comrades' hands there, yes,

1392
01:43:57.399 --> 01:44:02.640
right, accepting cuz I think I
touch something else, I think of

1393
01:44:02.720 --> 01:44:11.520
the porn queen' s sheath and
all that swindling brother and they' re

1394
01:44:11.880 --> 01:44:15.199
other tools. Yes, tool,
yes, Granny we Madrid. But good

1395
01:44:15.800 --> 01:44:21.119
that or for the check he has
asked me to come quickly to deliver the

1396
01:44:21.399 --> 01:44:28.119
diagnosis of the Doctor of the Iscano
and fix the car dear gabo the Doctor

1397
01:44:28.199 --> 01:44:30.319
Lizcano. It' s not easy, because it' s a very modern

1398
01:44:30.319 --> 01:44:33.359
car and it' s got even
intersec I don' t know there and

1399
01:44:33.479 --> 01:44:35.800
I don' t know it knows
anything. I imagine he made an internet

1400
01:44:35.880 --> 01:44:39.520
that they call high speed, yes
or no, because, like the Minister,

1401
01:44:39.840 --> 01:44:43.239
he keeps running pure and pure all
over the country. It must be

1402
01:44:43.319 --> 01:44:45.880
that sheath, the intersect. That' s right, it' s a

1403
01:44:45.920 --> 01:44:50.560
car I' ve seen park several
stalls. Not because good of the government,

1404
01:44:50.600 --> 01:44:54.439
no, because ton is the government
remember that it was parked. He

1405
01:44:54.439 --> 01:44:59.640
' s in the presidency. There
I run the dapre gives pressure. Geys

1406
01:44:59.680 --> 01:45:02.840
is really under pressure to have to
meet him now millions of Colombians I don

1407
01:45:02.920 --> 01:45:05.520
' t know about the Internet.
By the way, I have a friend

1408
01:45:05.560 --> 01:45:11.119
who likes her a lot. The
chano band no longer allows them to come

1409
01:45:11.199 --> 01:45:15.439
out with any bare wire. Dear
Minism and Octolis Carmas, I ask you

1410
01:45:15.439 --> 01:45:16.279
what you' re doing. It' s a ministry to help us,

1411
01:45:16.439 --> 01:45:23.880
the thousands of microentrepreneurs that we want
to do what they call digitalizing our businesses,

1412
01:45:24.720 --> 01:45:28.319
putting up the stationary and answer me
to that, dear Minister, well,

1413
01:45:28.800 --> 01:45:31.520
dear mechanic, we' re working
on a topic that' s called

1414
01:45:31.800 --> 01:45:36.359
your online business, which is how
to transform the popular economy and make it

1415
01:45:36.439 --> 01:45:40.359
digital, because people think that technology
is like a bunch of people. Many

1416
01:45:40.399 --> 01:45:45.000
times he tried that is top ten
deal and we really don' t want

1417
01:45:45.079 --> 01:45:48.239
it from the Ministry, it'
s that technology is also from the popular

1418
01:45:48.239 --> 01:45:51.920
economy. A lady who can sell
her T- shirts via Instagram or Facebook,

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who can sell empanadas, who can
see many things. Then we have

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formed since I am Minister, more
than twenty zero shopkeepers or people from popular

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food, hairdressers, dog sellers or
T- shirt vendors to do all the

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digital transformation. We created the website
for them, enlisted them all online payment

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01:46:13.279 --> 01:46:16.199
so that they could sell, helped
them move on the networks, because we

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believe that technology is not just an
elite, but of all the Plechspor mechanics

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as they are true, or I
want to invite the Minister to watch as

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01:46:25.760 --> 01:46:30.399
the TVs days how, like fivetrol
at any time does not pass us there.

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I' m right because of you
I' m asking you for a

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soda. The truth is that you' re getting the best out of them.

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The gra asks in the end and
we are going to see the Minister,

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to make a digital power. We
pass by as a safe power.

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How goes that initiative of having a
cyber security hop for the region if we

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have three priorities and here the very
clear reason. It' s not conective

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01:46:51.000 --> 01:46:55.279
that we' ve talked a lot
about innovation ecosystems, digital education. We

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are forming a million Colombians and there
we have two very strong cross- cutting

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01:46:59.119 --> 01:47:01.560
issues. Some intimate artificial science.
We' re talking very hard and the

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three cyber security, because today,
before, the crimes were on the street.

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01:47:05.039 --> 01:47:08.800
Today, as it is a digital
world, crime is digital. Last

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01:47:08.840 --> 01:47:14.520
year we had twenty billion attacks and
today I was reading an article in I

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01:47:14.680 --> 01:47:17.359
think in Portfolio, where it said
that the banks have received twenty- eight

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01:47:17.359 --> 01:47:20.920
billion attacks this year alone. So, today, because people are sparing the

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01:47:21.039 --> 01:47:27.880
silver, supplanting the data, scaking
it, or in other, more serious

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01:47:27.960 --> 01:47:31.000
parts, they make it ransgo.
Big companies are hijacked by data, they

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01:47:31.000 --> 01:47:34.560
' re charged$ 2 3 million, which is the average ticket for a

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01:47:34.640 --> 01:47:39.239
chinga- age kidnapping I know,
but we don' t have time,

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01:47:39.880 --> 01:47:42.600
because we' ve thrown. You
can go steal the data. Then we

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01:47:42.720 --> 01:47:46.399
are working to create a soco,
a center of operations against cyber crime in

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01:47:46.439 --> 01:47:50.640
the Ministry, to protect companies and
people. And we' re going to

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01:47:50.680 --> 01:47:55.159
end up in a call center where
people can call and we can help them

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01:47:55.239 --> 01:47:59.079
that there' s really a lot
of trouble with that even a Uizcan minister,

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01:47:59.399 --> 01:48:00.600
because we' re going to leave
or we' re closing, but

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01:48:00.600 --> 01:48:00.600
I invite him to well, he' s not going to sing this time.

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01:48:00.720 --> 01:48:04.159
We know that with the Revolcón Group, with Master Chalo, we put

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a little echo into our song.
Thank you for joining us here in La

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01:48:08.239 --> 01:48:10.479
Lucia. No one in realn tells
us open. Thank you very much for

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01:48:10.479 --> 01:48:18.479
the invitation. Well, Mr Sueneme
of Jim sounds like a shawl. This

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01:48:18.479 --> 01:48:25.000
is the song of the leck eco
Pisca doesn' t say I don'

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01:48:25.439 --> 01:48:28.039
t have an echo without losing an
echo. He came up with an echo

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01:48:28.319 --> 01:48:31.760
and they don' t know it. The intimate audience says working, ando,

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01:48:32.039 --> 01:48:36.920
ando, ando, ando, in
the connection, without anyone attacking net

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01:48:38.279 --> 01:48:46.680
goals that have shown in the digitization, actuation, cation that it will relax

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01:48:46.840 --> 01:48:54.199
in their mandates data, data,
data to direct Güey with the call Güey

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01:48:54.359 --> 01:49:00.640
promises him there if it is up
to the director and RTI that we put

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01:49:00.720 --> 01:49:06.680
of solis cano woman ano, does
not fall the salt of the echo eco

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01:49:06.960 --> 01:49:13.439
piscono says no peco ego connected without
endeletco eco lead hase until a hollow echo

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01:49:13.439 --> 01:49:18.880
echo. It is normal for me
to give fiber cable, speak, speak,

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01:49:20.159 --> 01:49:29.520
Abreo as the connection that highlights the
high Joana pance quite challenges him guide

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01:49:30.399 --> 01:49:35.359
and outside the city where he sails
the most. Ega, vega, vega

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01:49:36.760 --> 01:49:45.000
that tells the bride with five ge
improves things if who you call how much

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01:49:45.119 --> 01:49:50.560
keyboard with your race. This is
the echo song and cano says no peco

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01:49:50.800 --> 01:49:59.960
eco connected without endeletco echo. I' m wearing an echo, but it

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' s Mauricio Oliscano, Minister of
the Sex. It happened in three more

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