Reformas con los días contados, saludamos a los finalistas y especial Pacho Santos

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The led to n four in the
afternoon, twelve minutes orcharding billiards. Good

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afternoon operation cordial return. Welcome back. In addition, good afternoon to Alexandra,

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to the listeners of the Lucia Arnaga
in radio snail that accompany us so

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far and without plan return a series
of homes that are returning to their homes

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at this time. Sure and look
rules, right now for Bogotá, where

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you expect me to train about a
million vehicles throughout the day. There are

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already about seven hundred thousand who have
entered the last court that the Secretariat of

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Transit and Mobility has handed over and
governs the peak and regional plaque to enter

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Bogotá. Until four o' clock
in the afternoon the vehicles with fixed plates

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were able to enter in pairs to
this work already four and twelve minutes in

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the afternoon and until eight o'
clock in the night. The entrance will

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be only for cars whose plate ends
in odd number one, three, five

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or seven and nine in great news
that there is this time Alexandra. For

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the rainy season, closures have been
recorded in the corridors, such as the

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Cusiana trunk, the CISGA and sovereignty. CISGA presents the total closure at this

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time on the Macanal Santa María stretch, so the Cusiana cross- section of

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the SISGA have interventions at this time
to rehabilitate the affected sections, as well

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as sovereignty, which is leaving the
departments of Norte de Santander and Boy Acá,

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incommunicado with Arauca and Caquetá, with
the eastern plains. Then there are

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road communication problems. At this time, the alternative, Alexandra is that vehicles

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that come or go from Boyacá to
Caquetá have to come to Bogotá. They

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' re not going to take life
on the plain to get there I was

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just saying Villavicencia. Then being able
to circulate towards Arauca or Caqueta is the

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biggest novelty that occurs at this time
in broths. There are road accidents,

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especially in the municipalities of Belalcázar,
San José Viterbo. There is irreversible at

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this time on the Via Villa Vicencio
Bogotá. What it means then ducky,

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Alexandra, Forgive me I am very
confused with the crazy one that means Alexandra

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that also the cargo vehicles, for
example, that are going to try to

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make that return from Boyacá At this
time they can not do it they will

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be able to continue to travel after
eleven in the night. Maybe it'

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s their turn to make the same
tour, you have to make the same

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turn is Bogotá. Stay here until
you can continue your tour to Bella Vicencio

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around eleven o' clock at night. That and those same load restrictions are

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in life Chachito, Cancipa, Tunja
and la Vega, Villeta, Onda and

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Guaduas and at this time in Bogotá, Alexandra Ilrbo, a trucker on the

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north highway with one hundred and sixty- three. That was about 3:

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30 in the afternoon. However,
because they are trying to remove the vehicles

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and others is one of the biggest
innovations that are presented so far, I

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will continue to tell you anything that
passes the tracks, Alexandra, and the

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listeners that accompany us so that they
know what news they will find on the

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roads. All right, Orlando,
let me also greet Espinosa, our companion,

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Jorge Espinosa of the morning, who
is doing a special service with us

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while I wanted to enjoy a good
vacation, Espinosa, good afternoon, Alexandra,

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good afternoon. I like that special
service thing. I had a question

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for is therefore, to all neighborhoods
and collective. But soon I see him

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so expert in the eight- year- old boy, George, where the

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boy lived, in the barrel,
no, sir, but I can think

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of you in the eight Lies,
that in the barrel lived hiding. That

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' s what I was going to
say, but what I was going to

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say was my life hiding in the
other a lot, of course, just

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like the witch lived in the'
70s, not in the car. Alexandra

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has it very clear, of course. I was going to say in the

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carnal fourteen, of course because I
was visiting a ramon. No, no,

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no, I loved her, I
already had her almost visit, but

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no, if it wasn' t
well achieved. I like that spiny Va

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had a childhood quite similar to that
of many of our generation. Oh,

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it doesn' t stick, too, it didn' t take off.

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George made him, or you got
thongamandapius, since he said the dejaivito,

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joke exists, not where it'
s so not and if they rub the

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truth on me, I can'
t know everything and not everything in michoacán

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anymore. Thank you very much,
yes, and I always bring up.

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Gabriel would say again Alexandra, but
yes, how is the spiny gentile.

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I' m going to ask him
not to look for me there fast in

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that google uropa to see what the
gentile of those of hot water is like.

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A two don' t know what
the hydrocalid looks like like the gentile

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of me. I' m hydrocalyde. They say I' m buh don

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' t say you' re from
hot water. Yes, yes, sir,

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not hydro- calydes like that.
It can' t be good.

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Bus would make warm water one more
thing. Gustan guasca. All the lukewarm

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very good. Orno can get hydrated. There' s a thangamandapium in your

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axe, no, but it'
s just a bar The thangamandapium bar says

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you have to go look your senior
client. Okay. That' s good.

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The stoppage is that if you live
in the barrel ah Yes, yesterday

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it is in the Barril, as
good as thorny, something to start our

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program today news and we will also
tell in the course of our program everything

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that happens in Colombia and in the
world. Well, look, I'

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d like to start with some international
news later. We will expand it Alexandra,

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but it seems to me that the
character of the day in Latin America

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is the mayor of Mexico City,
now the first President of Alexa as a

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woman, Claudia Shainbow, who has
won in those Latin American lessons, probably

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the most nourished, the most important, the largest in Latin America. She

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is an engineering physicist who has good
relations, very good relations with President Andrés

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Manuel López Obrador, who was always
the candidate of Amblo, as he is

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known in Mexico, absolute continuity.
Sochil Galves, who was the candidate of

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the opposition, was given a monumental
beating, and with Petro Gustavo' s

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government they are obviously going to have
a fluid relationship. In that it will

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not change much Regarding what happened with
Andrés Manuel López Obrador, I do not

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know if Orlando caught the attention that
President Petro told in his account of x

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that Claudia helped the 19th eMe in
his time, in the times of hiding.

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I' d love to know that
story, how it went and what

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it meant. President Petro. Claudia
Shainon was from a very young age a

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political activist dedicated mainly to the academy, but ended up deriving in politics from

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the hand of Andrés Manuel López Obrador. For the character of the day,

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undoubtedly, the first woman President of
Mexico. Well, all this information we

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' ll be counting on, plus
the scope that this new choice and the

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challenges can have. In addition,
in the first woman in Mexico as President,

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Claudia, later on, Alexandra,
our special envoy, Charrie Ruis,

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will be telling us the chronicle of
the day and what this electoral process has

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been in Mexico. But, as
we also walk our space for humor,

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people say we don' t want
to laugh and how not to do it

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with our dear little friend. Count
that here, big tris, so,

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so, hello Alexista, good afternoon, sweet potato, what a pleasant surprise.

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One of the best directors that this
program has had until today for Orlandito

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villar a greeting in particular, and
one of the best imitators in the world,

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my comadre Alexandra Montoya, but it
is also in our dear Gabriellita.

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Yes, there' s Gavita.
Gavitana says yes, Gavita gaba, Gavita.

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Good afternoon for the independent sportsman Medellin
of the Mouloncito humor. Good for

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your little friend, for thorny little
buddy. How excellent it is, isn

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' t it? Interesting facts.
It' s alexandrite. Imagine that in

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a thousand six hundred and fifty-
four in Rains in France, Louis XIV

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is crowned. Louis XIV see,
then, before the furniture of Louis XV

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interesting, the man that excellent.
What an interesting piece of information that makes

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Alexita ignorant. We have at this
hour the bad and the good ah good

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is the what and the güey the
bad and the good Luciernaga. This is

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the bad guy. Alexita to see
the wife who asks the husband you did

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it with the book entitled how to
pass the hundred years. I put it

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in the bank safe. I was
afraid I' d see your mom and

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suddenly read it. That was brother, yeah, yeah, no, he

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was brother alex Ga, no,
but he was the bad or the safe

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melon, that is, the good
one. It has to be excellent to

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overcome the yes. Sure, but
I didn' t get the good one

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wrong now. Imagine the kid telling
Dad Dad. It is true that in

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China men do not know their wife
before until they have married. I say

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not only in China. Soups everywhere. Son four s above are commercial messages

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and we pour four la Lucia.
Nothing four in the afternoon, twenty-

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three minutes and you are with us
on the line Luis Fernando Velasco, our

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Interior Ministry of the Luciaraga, because
we want to ask you what is going

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to be done from g Goo,
Erno Minister, so that they process in

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Congress all the reforms that are already
tight in time Mini Hello Alexandra, the

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special light for you, for Hello
Billiard, Minister, how you are doing,

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Hello Espinosa, Minister, how is
it going, how is it going.

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All good, we' re good. I' m just here buying

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timepieces to give to congressmen to see
if they understand what time we don'

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t have and what time we can' t waste. If we want Congress

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or reform not to do the same
thing as the sunken Titanic. So,

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gentlemen of Congress, stop wasting your
time in Congress worrying about that misunderstanding of

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the risk management carts and let'
s save the reforms and you' ll

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see what the government is like,
we consented to them, that is,

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we corrected them and they were wrong
and I wish all of you happiness to

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continue working on the feast. Thank
you, Minister Good Orlando. That'

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s going to happen with all the
reforms that are pending. There you are,

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and we have twelve days left for
the government to succeed in carrying out

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several of the reforms that it has
there, such as the pension, the

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reform to education, the labor reform, among others, that are the flag

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of the government of the President of
Gustavo Petro and that, although, therefore,

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it was advancing in some way,
that discussion. There is a turtle

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plant of the democratic center of the
opposition and they are summoning. Also,

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let' s say that the strategy
there is, on the one hand,

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to finish the kurum necessary for at
least the discussion. The Government says it

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has the necessary votes in the House. You have them at least to pass

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the pension reform. The point is
that it is going to give you the

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times, especially when you continue to
carry out political controls. The Minister of

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Defence is summoned, the Minister of
the Interior is summoned. He' s

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quoted and they' re still quoting
the Unit' s risk decision to answer

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for the corruption scandal. There,
so tight times, votes have them,

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but they can put the stick on
the wheel. There' s the procedure.

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Finally, on the legislative agenda alexanl
and thorny that more has to be

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said with everything that is coming.
If I would complement what I was saying

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by praying in the following sense,
most likely the labor reform is deader than

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alive, unlike the pension. The
pension if it is going to have from

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tomorrow, with all the tokens and
the support of the government, the debate

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let' s say in the plenary
of the House of Representatives, but there

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are already congressmen who have announced objections
and proposals. Probably the proposal that is

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surely going to be discussed tomorrow is
a proposal from the Green Alliance and other

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parties that insist that the entry into
force of the pension reform project cannot be

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the first of July of two thousand
twenty- five, which is in just

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over a year, which is what
the government wants and which, on the

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other hand, would have to come
into force on the first of January of

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two thousand twenty- seven. To
give a longer time to the transition,

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because the Attorney General' s Office
and the Comptroller' s Office have already

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warned that colpensions at the head of
Don Jaime Dusan does not have the technical

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or administrative capabilities to implement this new
model of the pension. And if the

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background is what happened to the health
of the teachers, the pension can also

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be catastrophic and they hurry. And
at the same time, there' s

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something that' s going to play
him against pension reform, and there'

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s at least two days eleven and
twelve of June in which you' ll

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have to discuss the name of the
Lord and that' ll first have some

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interviews, some hearings of the candidates
that there are for the Comptroller and finally,

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the vote in the House of Representatives. Those two days are two days

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lost, so if you tell Alexandra, you will have in the government less

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than fifteen days to process what is
missing from the pension reform. So the

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great enemy, in fact, is
the time and precisely the whirlwind sings it

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to the reforms with the days told. Already today, with tangulos days,

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we find ourselves in the nation,
we are without short time and the very

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few advances are It has been long
the sphere and even the gruesome rout.

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Until today nothing happens and every day
we lack more. It was the Fortnight

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itself, time is passing or in
the country new advances are coming to an

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end, not reforms. You know
two yes and bu avan the moon.

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Alexandra of the houses, here we
are in the firefly. We are accompanying

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them on this holiday and Jorge Espinosa
mentioned it, as the important issue in

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Latin America, the new President of
Mexico. We would like to ask our

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special envoy, also Sharik Tatiana Ruiz, how these presidential elections were held.

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Alexandra Orlando, good afternoon, greetings
from Mexico City, where yesterday lived a

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day that marked forever the history of
this country. Claudia Shane Van became the

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first president of the country with about
sixty percent of the coalition votes. Let

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us continue to make history to millions
of warmen and bellicas who decided to vote

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for us on this historic day to
advance with the fourth transformation of the public

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life of our beautiful country. It
is the recognition of the people of Mexico

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to our history, to the results, to conviction and to the will,

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but above all, it is the
recognition of the people of Mexico to our

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nation project. I am also grateful
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hundred years of the Republic, I
will become the first woman President of Mexico

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after the triumph of who is her
party partner. But I would also dare

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to say that her pupil, President
Andrés Manuel López Obrador, congratulated her and

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confirmed that she would withdraw from politics
after giving her command. I' m

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going to be able to say when
I give Claudia the band over and I

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' m retired It' s clear
I' m good to hear her away.

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Having finished my term of office,
I retire and do not participate in

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any political public activity again. Alexandra
Orlando Remember that the new President of Mexico,

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who will take office on October 1st
for a six- year term without

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re- election, is sixty-
one years old, is physical and engineer

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and between two thousand eighteen and two
thousand twenty- three was the first female

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mayor of Mexico City. He charged
the one who resigned in June last year

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to dedicate himself to his presidential candidacy, and now will arrive at the National

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Palace as the first President of this
country thanks to Sharick Ta Tiana Ruiz from

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Mexico and thorny how relations between Colombia
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Claudia Shainbon. Yes, I think
you' re going to have a

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very fluid relationship with the Colombian President. He shares in an ideological line,

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as Sharick said in the profile,
in Claudia Shain Oumella' s summary is

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physical, but for many years he
worked on the issue of climate change.

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She' s an expert on that
subject, which is an issue that we

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know haunts President Petro. President Petro, as I said a moment ago,

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congratulated Claudia Schino. On their social
networks. There was a government delegate very

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close to the government, María José
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the electoral process in Mexico, so
that surely that bond, that dialogue between

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Colombia and Mexico, as it has
been now that President Gustavo Petro, in

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the years in which López Obrador was
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they govern for longer than they do
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And finally, it seems to me, Alexandra, that the big question

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for Claudia Shin Boy, for Mexicans, is whether she' s going to

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be able to unmark López Obrador,
if she' s going to be a

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cape. You have to say at
some point in your presidency there are things

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to me about López Obrador that I
don' t like, even though he

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has somehow been my political mentor and
I' m going to do my presidency

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and not a second part of López
Obrador. López Obrador says he' s

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going to retire, but it'
s Latin America. It is not common

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for former presidents to end up like
old furniture, without knowing where to put

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them, as some sage said.
That way, well, we' ll

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see what it' s always for
the good and what' s good for

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this woman. In the middle of
everything, as he rightly says, it

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will be that it is unmarked.
In the meantime, we also want to

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accompany them with what sometimes we can' t do on the radio because we

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miss the locuñas. I just want
to hit the radio. I just,

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of course, hit the radio.
Yeah, a lot of attention. It

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is running out on the first holiday
Monday of June and you nothing that knows

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the magical world of radio what you
expect to write in our course. I

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want to hit the radio. In
this course you will take very good care

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of your vocabulary. I have a
friend who' s listening to us,

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Paula Forero. For her she put
a trine and everyone repu and everyone repulsed

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it the refra. As you see
it, my husband in the third dose

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of the 19- year- old
covid vaccine was told to rest fifteen to

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twenty- five minutes and that time
passed and he felt good. He took

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the car, took off and the
rat started calling me that it looked pretty

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blurry. Yeah, wait a minute
Pay up It' s shit, man.

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Yes to nothing, perfection, the
words uy but very good evening,

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my little gadiosas, Gabriel antibacterial and
also the distance social distancing. He changed

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everything and I tell you Armamos a
tremendous parrón, tremendous parrón ti weekend.

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There' s an outbreak of influence. Outbreak and influence. The good orlando

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villains were ordered we were talking that
nine new embassies were opening sad stress a

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last minute formation that you find in
our account last hour r arroba will be

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as she is drinking a whiskey.
Lendy Fitz glend Fitz a glen fid Shick

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Glen Philip, so you said something
else, Lend Fitz a Glen Fish will

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never be wrong with the name of
the characters as artist Revelation when he separated

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from the orchestra of master Wifio Valgastro
wir Fi or Valgas Vargas Ry as the

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new player of sports Cali and says
Harlan Marrejarri Güey, all the next lady

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and the next lady for ironic,
the first ma. Rather they saw Calco

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Sera recognized a letter the defense of
Foreign Minister Alvaro will serve themÁlvaro what

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we will see. What' s
Bay' s house in Bye? What

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' s called j bile baldin or
told iDen to Valvin, yes, yes,

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he won' t confuse the words. He went batting and boss poche

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count, the independent you are national, the broken one has bread and scratched

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the leg on the ground, the
fool you were crazy and you were crazy

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few thousand or the famous one.
How is it that Sykot saico is called

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the bunny honey and flopolis and that
yes saiko sauco two five Good news from

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the Department of Carlas, c Hiraldo
and the Department of the Department of Caldas.

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Man who pays for the sin and
the one who hits for the sin,

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but does not hit, pastes,
but the Church cha. We always

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take good care of your health here. The activity is very good and reaches

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everyone. And there and they delivered
their ticket. Organized, organized, sorry.

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I' ve been given popcorn,
the chapopula pardon, sorry, what

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do you expect to be part of
our course. I want to hit the

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radio as he says sorry. If
seven o' clock ends the night and

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you call it size, yes,
you dare to teach health, look at

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it nothing. Another in the afternoon, forty minutes is already with us former

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Vice President Germán Vargas Lleras de la
Lucianaga, because we want to ask him,

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former Vice President, what were the
criticisms you made in your column to

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the petro government for the management of
agriculture. What was it, Gabriel Alexandra?

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Well, you finally got that voice
fixed. Yeah, it' s

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about time. I have my mood, too. Not to see, Alexandra,

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to see I remembered that if the
Ministry of Agriculture was allocated a budget

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of nine points, nine billion pesos, but they have only executed four percent,

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then what about the promise to turn
Colombia into an agro- food world

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power. But, yes, the
Ministry of Agriculture is very concerned about discrediting

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the National Federation of Coffee Growers and
the entire organization of the sector. Like

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the one who says because of management
to the Colombian agriculture. He' s

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already had his rocha, he'
s already been infected with the drill.

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So, for my part, I' m going to have a good coffee

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and don' t be so caturos
aja. He' s no longer going

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to give a greeting to Melchisedec'
s dick. If not that dick,

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leave it over there. I didn' t even mention it, because if

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you don' t give it back, that' s a dick and that

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billiards don' t copy things,
because if you don' t see another

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dick, no, sir, you
call it thorny true, mancho, chao

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sick, mancho, neither sick,
dicelar, male, good orlando. What

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can we say about this, what
a critic. Vice President, former Vice

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President Germán Vargalera does say that the
Government' s goal is somehow to instrumentalize

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the National Federation of Coffee Growers to
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And this, of course, raises
questions about all the institutionality represented by the

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guilds in the country, including other
guilds that are also being affected by measures

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being taken by the national government Viri
Alexandrais, which signed a resolution Thursday of

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last week revealed the former vice-
present the zero one twenty- four,

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which is called Confidence Colombia and in
it, according to what the Vice-

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President of Herman Vargaleras warns, because
the allocation of resources for prosecutors that manage

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the agricultural guilds, not only the
coffee farmer, also livestock farmer, the

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palm trees, rice farmers, pigs, cocoa growers, mumps, among others,

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that are affected a fund, besides
three hundred and nineteen thousand million pesos

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annually that would then be in some
way or would begin to control the national

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government. Under this strategy, then
also to assume some tasks, because through

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decrees questioning that arise then at times
when the autonomy of these guilds always is

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thorny. And it is that Alexandra
remembers, moreover, that the fight with

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Dr Germán Bamon in the Federation of
Cafeteros, regarding what former Vice President Germán

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Vargaleras said, began when the President
made him notice that in other times,

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years ago, Dr Bamón had written
a series of trinos questioning the then Senator

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Gustavo Petro. That, of course, didn' t go to Petro.

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He forgot clearly, of course,
and then, from the beginning he tried

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that the person who won that position
in the Federation of Coffee Growers was not

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Germán Bamón, But the former Minister
of Finance, José Antonio Campo, insisted

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that Bamón was the insignafil, the
one who needed the federation and the former

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Vice President is also very upset because
President Petro attended his brother on Friday on

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his x account without mentioning it,
but he did mention the fact that in

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the new PS there were hidden invoices
and said that that EPs had always been

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handled by the Vargaleras family. It
referred to Germán Vargaslleras' brother as part

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of the board of directors of the
new PS. See you, because you

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are discovering things and you are touching
the moods between Vice President Lleras Vargas and

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President Petro. Carlos Fernando Galán Come
one day you can sail on the Bogotá

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River. Mayor what will I see
if you' re out there hello from

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Santa Braas, hello Mayor of Carlos
Fernando Galán, how did it go?

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She was with a mandarinite. That' s why I didn' t tell

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you what joke hair, how he
does his mandarinita, which today is festive

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and has a good right. Greetings
for being exalted for Gabriel There in the

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genetic place where he is and within
the district plan of development, we contemplate

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that we can home by the river
of Bogotá. I suggest that this proposal

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not a shipwreck or go against the
current, but that we transport some 120,

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000 passengers per day and that,
as I would say to the Sacalde

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Enrique Peñalosa, we can see deer
near the Bogotá River. We will be

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guides the place of these deers.
Let' s not end up seeing white

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elephants and say goodbye and congratulations to
the Santa porso. So, no mayor,

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no, no, no. Gabriel
remains firm and, in the meantime,

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Orlando I was going to tell Rolando
Orlando N, the director, what

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will happen one day with the river, which the Mayor has said, because

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it is not going to be an
immediate project. It will take us a

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few months until years to implement it, but yes, at least two hundred

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fifty billion pesos are appropriated to develop
this navigability of the Bogotá River in about

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three phases that includes facilitating transport,
And for this we will build an infrastructure

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from the humidity the rabbit in climb
to the bridge of Guadua on the eighty

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street. That would take transport users
twenty- two minutes, so it becomes

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a very interesting alternative. The other
phase would be to increase the capacity of

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the system, building seven docks in
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That would allow the capitals to travel
from voice to suva in forty minutes

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faster, including TransMilenio. At this
moment a very good initiative that then proves

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the Council of Bogotá and that we
hope, therefore, that quickly with the

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regional autonomous corporation, the governor,
in addition and the mayor' s office

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launches simply initially a pilot plan.
But that' s where he' s

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going to show his results. Well, we' ll see humor in the

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luster that' s amazing. No
grain counts ox that does. Here this

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fas alexita is all yes, I
am stopping the excrement at this hour alexandrito

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four hundred and fifty- three,
an already greyish twilight towards some parts of

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the country are reporting. How'
s your twilight? Va is now orlandito,

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as it is illuminated so far.
I believe and moon how is the

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twilight in medillen lit, lit or
thorny amito, If not, that is,

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how is your twilight at this hour? Beautiful, redoedito and such are

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screams ass. Jaa alexandrita interesting facts
about that one this hour. Imagine that

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one day like today, but in
one thousand eight hundred and eighty- seven,

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in La Plata, in the capital
of the province of Buenos Aires,

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the club Gimnasia y Esgrima de La
Plata is founded. See it' s

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excellent that you see and it'
s neither gymnastics nor fencing. It'

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s football. No, this joke
is excellent, this little joke can be

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a treat. Let' s see
if we can score? Really can be

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a goal This joke will be a
hit? Imagine two friends were talking and

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the one tells the other. Hey, my mother- in- law,

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she' s never spoken ill of
me. Not seriously, yes, my

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mother- in- law, never, ever, never spoke ill of me.

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Ah, so they' re good
people. I mean no. He

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' s not good people. She' s a mute four fifty- five.

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Do not shine or s in the
afternoon of the Patriana, the land

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of Boyaca and start already in his
desire with some questions, showing already the

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touch until he arrived to ask his
questions. You Haha, ha hahaha and

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Patojita, how I do Orlandito to
Villardon. George Pinsondo, don' t

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quote the gold and the shawls add
topita not his person. He came all

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the whole team to his person.
If you saw the bridge to the duck,

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because on Friday you had that voice
very affected. Yeah, I got

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to see that it' s bad
I ran into spinola. If you have

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a twin, not twin made.
That' ll be because my husband,

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Chico, I was groping. Let' s just mean, this is plagiarism

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for people to really want to come. Who was the one who was imitating

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I got caught. I got caught. If you do the nro, you

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do it right. Thank you,
Don Espinosita, for everything. How would

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it be that people started calling me
and calling me belannel with lemon. Patoquita

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used to tell me I' d
screech a clear stick, leg if it

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was the spiritist. He was never
prescribed, no, but he became a

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judge. What says fifth tumbo sau
caucalito honey and for little I say follow

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me not a greeting. I came
there to join us in a special greeting

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to all our listeners. Don Orlandito
and everyone are thorny. Before I ask

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them. I want to make a
special mention, two special mentions. One

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yes, Mr Sandra, he told
me about without anesthesia that right now we

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go tomorrow, one tomorrow, there
are two all, there are two.

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He quotes it pots or right now
at six o' clock in the ta

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El especial because many people want to
listen again to Pacho Santos who was there

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if they missed him exactly and others
who missed him. It is special that

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we had with net more without Anesthesia
is going right now at six in the

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afternoon to start special Pacho Santos with
all the characters and c or everything was

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true. Yes, the questions he
answered from Melkisdec, Giovanni and Celis and

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Ornando Villarpe obviously, from macuso of
false positives. He said again that the

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indigenous people who go out to the
marches. They' re getting paid and

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he says it that way cool on
his own and it turned out good actor

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too good he participated. Six o' clock in the afternoon there will be

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one without anesthesia and if live and
direct tomorrow, live and live we will

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have the Minister of the TICK,
Minister Mauricio Lizcano, will be with us

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from six o' clock in the
afternoon. You can connect through the YouTube

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00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:52.440
channel of Caracol Radio and obviously listen
to us on the Radio snail and see

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us on channel one hundred and seven
and one thousand seven. Of course,

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because this is with more network and
with Radio sinan snail tomorrow. So the

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plan is six in the afternoon to
repeat Pacho Santos and tomorrow, six in

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the afternoon with the Minister of Latig
Mauricio Lescano. Good duck and the other

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player who wanted to tell you a
special mention because the Silver Batta of two

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thousand twenty- four took place,
where schools go to make their presentation is

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a presentation of music and march,
and won the College of the Nogales a

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special greeting for the College of the
Nogales its first place and a special mention

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to the Modern Gym Don Orlandito and
in Spinosa, because they made an impeccable

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masterful presentation. He did not captivate
the jurors, but he did take the

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applause and affection not only of the
families of the Modern Gymnasium, but of

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all the people who realized that they
made an impeccable presentation, a hug to

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them and well for the effort and
their boss in Tambor Mayor, Juan Felipe

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Caicedo Cadena? Juan Felipe Cadena,
a special salum for all the young talents

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that we gymnast, simnasian like my
father, ay his persona, his dad

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study see my dad is gymnast of
the same modern. If day to his

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person, then one hundred and ten
years already has the school calculated and his

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months will not be his father who
is one hundred and ten, of course.

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But no, but, but,
but, but, yeah, but,

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patudita, I' ll send you
the phone and you ask him.

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It is a tradition of truth or
not good, listen I already ask you

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of a thorny month and I ask
you first in orlandito what we can expect

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from the new Minister of Foreign Trade, because if Luis Carlos Reyes arrives,

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as we have anticipated here in the
Lucina of Caracol Radio, we hope that

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already next week will be officially made
his possession and there is great expectation in

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the different guilds, especially in a
ducky panorama, where the exports of the

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first semester have fallen at nine point
four percent, mainly lower sales. Imports

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fall by more than 11 percent in
the first three months of the year.

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The reduction in the purchase of raw
materials in the manufacturing sector and other activities

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that are seriously affected by this economic
decline to which, of course, the

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high interest rates say the national government, but also a lack of more concrete

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actions from the national government is what
the guilds warn and what they expect then

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from the new minister, Luis Carlos
Reyes. María Claudia la Coture, for

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example, President of the Colomoamerican Chamber, said that it was very important that

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a dialogue should be held, that
there should be greater dialogue with the business

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sector, which was the engine of
the Colombian economy, that policies for re

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- industrialization should be strengthened, that
the economy should be energized and that employment

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should be generated. Jaime Alberto Cabal, President of Penalco, says there is

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an urgent need for a shock plan
that can reactivate the economy. It gives

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that decrease of zero point eight percent
of trade in transport, in alo,

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in services in that first quarter and
that consumers are burdened by increased taxes,

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high interest rates, inflation and an
increase in insecurity, which is affecting consumption

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00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:15.760
and investment. That' s why, that Andy' s urgent dialogue.

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Bruce Macmaster says a more effective policy
of economic reactivation is needed that generates appropriate

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conditions and signals to regain the confidence
of the reverse. For in the middle

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of that look there is a trine
of José Antonio Ocampo patogita and that says

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the following coming because either deleted it
or the former minister yes, it seems

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00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:50.639
that saved it. He said Uartaxes
was coming and he was somehow pointing out

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to his former partner, Luis Carlos
Reyes, that he was coming to the

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Minister of Commerce to generate more taxes, to push for tax reform and to

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stigmatize the richest. The trine didn' t find him. I seem to

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delete it, but that' s
where Jorge was in the publication. I

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think it' s the triune he' s got on his account. I

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don' t know if it'
s a trine where it talks about how

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multinationals and super rich people have to
pay taxes and that' s why the

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story of that fight for a better
world opens up in ten countries soon and

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doesn' t miss it or put
it as what appears to be the tab

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of a movie. Yes, sir, you brought it up to date clearly,

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that caught your attention. You'
re watching the reference to the war

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in the movie Las Xia. That' s exactly why the poster seems like

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doing a kind of fire, the
Star Wars, and it refers to a

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center of thought, a corporation called
ICRIT, which was founded by Mr Joseph

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00:40:53.400 --> 00:41:00.360
Stiglitz, the great American economist Nobel
Prize of them, among others or field.

484
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:06.639
The former minister has always insisted among
the superrich, as they are already

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doing in Brazil they have to charge
them an over- tax, apart from

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what they already pay, that they
also pay an additional percentage of the silver

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00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:17.199
they have. See you thank you, Don Orlandito and you are already going

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spiny that is poilev I will once
and for all ask your Mercedes what President

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00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:29.599
Petro said there in an interview about
re- election and constituent. An extensive

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00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:34.400
interview, Patojita says she is not
interested in convening a constituent. We haven

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' t introduced her to Congress,
and I' m not going to introduce

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her. But he insists on that
strange concept of constituent power that the people

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say the President declares himself to be
in constituent power. That is an attitude

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00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:51.559
of the population, not a means. What the President of Colombia is asking

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of the people is that they be
prepared for democracy. That is to say,

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Patojita insists on constituent power that no
one knows how or with which he

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00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:05.719
eats, which is also strange,
because when President Petro elected him the Colombians

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at the polls, it seems to
me that they took part in democracy.

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I don' t understand what else
he expects people to do. He also

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00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:16.079
said to me that it is not
in my interest to re- elect myself,

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00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:20.280
to perpetuate myself in power so that
the people will not express themselves to

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00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:21.960
see whether the President of the Republic
stays or not. I don' t

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00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:25.320
need to change the Constitution of ninety- one, but then he said in

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00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:30.800
reality, that Constitution doesn' t
touch new aspects that have appeared in Colombia,

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00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:32.960
such as the climate crisis or the
peace agreement with the FARK. In

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00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:38.880
short, as Daniel Coronel Patojita told
him, we Colombians need clarity and the

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00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:44.320
President has not been clear on exactly
what he wants. But the contradiction,

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00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:47.960
Jorge, that there is with the
ministers who come out, with the Minister

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of Justice, our one saying that
there will be no, that it is

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00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:55.960
not a mechanism that the President is
considering, but it is the President himself

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who has called the Congress of the
Republic A to convene that constitute. There

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00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:05.320
he returns as in other aspects and
as in other matters, as in health,

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00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:09.559
as has happened to us with the
announcements of the President, in which

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00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:14.719
they contradict among the Ministers themselves with
President Petro himself. Okay. Thank you,

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00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:17.480
Don Espinosa, how happy I am
to greet your person until when you

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00:43:17.519 --> 00:43:22.800
are going to be on those sides, to know, well, ducklings,

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00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:25.880
I think that there is middle of
the month, maybe until the twenty or

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00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:28.719
twenty- one of June, if
you allow me, because, yes,

519
00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:32.320
well, of course not, but
it is very happy to see the Igetics

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00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:36.559
I have followed as you can in
the field. Yes, it depends on

521
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:39.599
Don Gabriel and the houses, ah
caraches, güey demos. So, don

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00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:45.239
' t say any more. Bye- bye, ducky, kicky, watch

523
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:47.880
in the meantime, moody weather.
Who' s counting, because that'

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00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:54.719
s here. Te. Yes,
yes, great to exist this and we

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00:43:55.119 --> 00:44:00.440
continue to work on this spectacular holiday. Alexita how twilight and not now yes,

526
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:07.440
really a more enlightened twilight or alexita
and everything in excess is bad or

527
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:13.119
exciting. Yes, because, except
for vacations and money, what an interesting

528
00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:16.920
phrase, really alexandrite yes, yes, that is, it is very thoughtful,

529
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:23.400
especially the festive yes, it is
not excellent. Alexita. We have

530
00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:28.880
the three quick and curious to see
this hordilla. Now in the naga fight,

531
00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:37.920
the fast and curious bones. This
one' s already excellent. Dad,

532
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:40.159
Dad, take me to the circus, no, no, no,

533
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:46.440
whoever wants to see you come to
the house. Excellent, excellent, yes,

534
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:52.960
one kind of other crazy, crazy
hears what you do not writing a

535
00:44:52.079 --> 00:45:00.679
letter to whom, to myself and
what says tomorrow the excellent receipt and the

536
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:06.559
last two friends talking no and in
one tells to another. He hears his

537
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:09.519
nose spelling in English. I don' t know, neither do you.

538
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:17.039
Yes of the excellent we continue in
the Lucí Naci, we are in Caracol

539
00:45:17.400 --> 00:45:25.079
Radio la Lucia Nada Alexandra de las
Casas, well, and we continue in

540
00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:28.320
the Lucía de Naga. I wanted
to ask you about the orlando. How

541
00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:30.880
has Juan Daniel Oviedo been, because
now that he has ceased to be a

542
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:35.000
candidate and is in Congress, in
the Council, the Council, in the

543
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:37.519
Council of Bogotá, That because of
the opposition status that I lost him allowed

544
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:42.239
him, being second in the Bogotá
election, to have reached that position in

545
00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:49.440
the mayor' s office, because
he has had, say some critics,

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00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:53.920
a lukewarm qualification. It has opposed
some of the taxes, for example,

547
00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:59.719
now presented in the discussion of the
district development plan, the issue of public

548
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:06.679
lighting, especially that generated as greater
concern there for this increase in the energy

549
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:12.280
bill, as it opposed there.
He has opposed other issues, but he

550
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:15.880
has lacked them. It seems that
he has been so in the candidacy,

551
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:21.000
he has not been observed, he
has not been seen, nor has he

552
00:46:21.159 --> 00:46:24.679
had concrete initiatives in terms of ideas
for the city that since his proposals from

553
00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:29.960
the mayor' s office or at
least since his campaign plan, he could

554
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:31.599
have materialized there. Not much was
observed from the Council. I mean,

555
00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:37.000
he' s dedicated, it'
s like making criticisms of Mayor Carlos Fernando

556
00:46:37.000 --> 00:46:37.840
Galán, but, well, he' s got time. It' s

557
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:40.039
only been a few months. Well, it' s better than Eve King,

558
00:46:40.360 --> 00:46:44.440
our Jeva King, to tell her
and tell us how she' s

559
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:49.119
doing with him, how she did
the interview Hello, how you' re

560
00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:52.960
doing today in undressing with Gevary.
I have invited the Councillor of Bogotá and

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00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:57.360
former Director of Dani, Juan Daniel
Oviedo. Hey, welcome to my Hola

562
00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:02.199
Jeva show, how' s that
bullet you put in your legs and how

563
00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:06.800
wow I corrected it, which isn' t a bullet, uh, which

564
00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:09.960
is a mini skirt that reaches your
back. Hey, and you pricks and

565
00:47:10.039 --> 00:47:15.519
billiards how about if you stop staring
at me, you little lookers and with

566
00:47:15.519 --> 00:47:17.960
you old man. Let' s
go now with some quick questions for short

567
00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:22.840
answers. What have you liked most
about being a councillor in Bogotá, the

568
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:27.519
work for the city or its political
projection? What a job for the city

569
00:47:27.599 --> 00:47:30.239
and what a projection What I liked
most about being a councilman has been the

570
00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:36.639
MM salary that I already see wine
or whiskey, since it came to silvame

571
00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:40.559
whisky to see if we encouraged this
small thing that they nailed me to work

572
00:47:40.679 --> 00:47:44.280
them well that it likes to travel
on the left or on the right.

573
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:51.480
I prefer downtown Ok Vale, reasonable, laugh, crazy or alert. Oh,

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00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:52.400
no, for me the great good, a sanchez. No. No,

575
00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:55.840
that' s already after that,
why we' re following my show

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00:47:55.840 --> 00:48:00.719
here. Hey, bye Bye.
Thank you, hevaa and let' s

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00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:05.400
go from politics to sports. He
just got here. Don sebastián varcas the

578
00:48:05.639 --> 00:48:15.599
sports in Caracol Radio Doña alex happy
afternoon for all the listeners of the Lucérnaga,

579
00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:21.360
the dream of the boy of Killian
in vapes and it has come true

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00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:27.719
where the Real Madrid arrived after winning
the number fifteen champion, because the gift

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00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:30.519
that Florentino Pérez has given to the
swollen one is to bring for many.

582
00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:36.000
The best player today was in the
PSG, in the Paris and germen he

583
00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:39.440
will have his first experience outside France. He already played in Monaco with Falcao,

584
00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:44.760
passed to Paris and now leaves his
country. Heading for the White House.

585
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:49.800
Sign for five seasons and we are
looking forward to your presentation at Santiago

586
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:55.480
Bernabeu Stadium. The numbers of the
current season, of the four leaders or

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00:48:55.519 --> 00:49:00.519
of the four who will be responsible
for the offensive of the Real Madrid front

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00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:06.400
are terrifying Vinicius twenty- four,
jud Vallingham twenty- three goals, Rodrigo

589
00:49:06.440 --> 00:49:09.480
seventeen and Embape forty- four among
the four hundred and eight goals. So

590
00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:13.719
it' s going to be hard
for the defenses of the Spanish League,

591
00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:20.159
of the League of European Champions to
hold these four players for being able to

592
00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:24.639
stop them in Colombian junior football of
Barranquilla, the only representative of Colombia in

593
00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:29.159
the eighth finals of the Copa Libertadores
is going to face Colo Colo of Chile,

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00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:34.199
the chieftain of this country the day
after the week of August 14.

595
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:37.639
The round eight days after the week
of the 21st starts in Santiago, in

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00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:42.800
Monumental Stadium, the round in the
Metropolitan of Barranquilla and, of course we

597
00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:45.960
already have finalists of Colombian football,
there is already time and day for the

598
00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:51.559
matches between Santa Fe and Bucaramanga.
The Bonita City begins on Saturday, June

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00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:53.599
8, seven and thirty at night, the return at Campine Stadium on Saturday,

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00:49:54.039 --> 00:50:00.280
June 15. Also at seven and
thirty o' clock in the night

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00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:04.679
he hit the Lionel Prophe on the
stick. He was classified in two moments

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00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:08.760
with Pereira, twelve minutes at the
beginning of the day and between the fifty

603
00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:13.280
- seven and seventy- one minutes. He was also classified, but in

604
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:17.480
the end the laugher is the Bucaramanga. Well, we' ve got the

605
00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:21.000
ledito there Yes, Mr Profe,
he didn' t catch up with you

606
00:50:21.000 --> 00:50:22.679
at all. Well, first that
he had a health special for you sebas

607
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:30.280
and profes amigos, for lepsa I
leave him hooky as always Linda and Sepsy,

608
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:34.719
there is no ready. What a
divine mother, not always what I

609
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:40.760
tell you, I took air.
That wasn' t easy. Yeah,

610
00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:45.239
no. The truth is, I' m still really hit by what happened

611
00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:49.639
to us as a team. Not
how it turned out that I at the

612
00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:52.960
gym raised more than 200 kilos.
Alexa can' t be and this morning

613
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:58.480
I almost didn' t get up. I take this opportunity to congratulate the

614
00:50:58.480 --> 00:51:00.920
Holy End not on that great step
in the final. I' m so

615
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:05.960
happy for the lion, because we' re scared of leopards. Not what

616
00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:07.880
he threw, teacher, but like
everything I did. Anyway, I think

617
00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:14.239
this Pereira showed how well he went
to football. I do not have an

618
00:51:14.320 --> 00:51:20.679
exceptional approach. We hope to make
a next semester to reach the final,

619
00:51:21.639 --> 00:51:22.159
but the one that reaches the final. I say and I have to prepare

620
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:30.159
pepsicologically, a hug. Congratulations to
the Bucaranites and the Santafereñitas you know thanks

621
00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:34.760
to the Buscaros with those of the
team to Bucaramango. They understood me or

622
00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:37.039
they didn' t. Yeah well, I hit and you or seeing with

623
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:39.679
them. But see, you know
exactly what Richin' s gonna sing to

624
00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:53.360
those finalists. I love you I
read to cha. He did not pass

625
00:51:53.599 --> 00:52:06.639
peace ball pass cambrel tom by Pablo
Gano before Sango at all because catapina friendship

626
00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:13.800
until the last minute. First your
bad lady painted amillos for the changat is

627
00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:22.719
illusoed ill pereirad and in plbucara a
margaro that the soccer panza gondre cam this

628
00:52:22.840 --> 00:52:30.280
couple was in the group Anicia Pala
way what you have to the four teams

629
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:36.800
almost left out that they put you
On the other side, the thing was

630
00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:43.039
not so rada, although it is
that it has won that less expected what

631
00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:53.440
in football pansa copan and bucaron and
lions raised their color that reigns the peace

632
00:52:53.599 --> 00:53:12.679
of the football to win the best
paso piso tol Santon the light nothing five

633
00:53:12.679 --> 00:53:15.000
of the afternoon, thirty- seven
minutes. Orlando villain in what is going

634
00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:21.199
on with President Donald Trump' s
judicial mess, as he spoke, former

635
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:23.559
President of the United States Donald Trump
spoke, in an interview he gave Fox

636
00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:28.920
News and states that, because he
agrees to get a prison sentence if necessary,

637
00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:34.039
but that the public, the American
citizens, will not stand it.

638
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:42.239
He says he doesn' t want
the lawyers out there begging for him.

639
00:53:42.519 --> 00:53:45.199
That there is also and about that
trial, that has been rigged, that

640
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:52.199
has been somehow manipulated, for there
is no and there will be no public

641
00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:59.960
acceptance about his imprisonment. Initially,
he reacted with improper words, with crossing

642
00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:05.039
towards Thursday Juan Merchán. Then that
truth has already shown itself to be quieter.

643
00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:09.280
The sentence will be set on 11
July. There are chances of a

644
00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:15.480
fine ranging from$ 5, 000
to parole, a prison sentence ranging from

645
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:21.760
one year to four years. Even
Trump' s lawyers are also preparing appeals,

646
00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:27.039
although the ways to do so are
restricted by the judge' s decision

647
00:54:27.159 --> 00:54:32.000
and look it premiered in Tiktok.
The president who long sought to veto that

648
00:54:32.039 --> 00:54:36.920
social network, premiered it with a
video in which he also talked about that

649
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:42.079
verdict that was given in the city
of Manhattan. Well and in the meantime,

650
00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:46.480
I want to ask the mature President, because he must be celebrating everything

651
00:54:46.480 --> 00:54:51.719
that is happening to Donald Trump,
President Maduro. Well, first of all,

652
00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:57.559
greetings, special to the fepinosa and
the thorny, for I greet for

653
00:54:58.199 --> 00:55:04.440
those who begin or also a greeting
to those who enjoy this Monday. Of

654
00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:09.400
course I' m laughing at what' s happening to Donald Trump. He

655
00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:15.320
' s the king of the Lucos, the parchment. It can damage your

656
00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:20.320
return to the White House, i
e the Winney Houton, not White Us.

657
00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:25.000
Well, change. I' ll
follow us in power another ten years

658
00:55:25.079 --> 00:55:29.639
and if you can' t stay, then another decade. Super Strauela the

659
00:55:29.719 --> 00:55:34.960
Trump de la Ton Venezuela. Hey, Whitney Houston and Walking Deck Vine.

660
00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:39.880
It looks like not tomoigo is the
way you are speaking in English, but

661
00:55:40.079 --> 00:55:46.320
hear definitely. You do not want
international surveillance in the presidential elections in Venezuela,

662
00:55:46.519 --> 00:55:52.840
Mr Nicolás Maduro. See Alexandra who
decides to revoke the invitation to the

663
00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:58.199
European Union Observation Mission for the July
selections. But I have two questions.

664
00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:04.239
Let' s see what they did
and what the fuck is the European Union

665
00:56:04.239 --> 00:56:07.239
' s observation mission. It was
good, but I don' t know

666
00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:08.679
what that worth left. So I' m sorry that I don' t

667
00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:13.280
want the elections to be monitored by
foreigners or by people from other countries.

668
00:56:14.039 --> 00:56:17.880
Good for late, for everything,
Thank you, Chao, it does not

669
00:56:19.039 --> 00:56:22.760
thorny this that comes for Venezuela,
of course, with uncertainties, but also

670
00:56:23.639 --> 00:56:28.159
with a certainty that more or less
you know what will happen. Yes,

671
00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:34.320
moreover, with some attitudes of the
regime that already border not only on the

672
00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:37.599
tragicomedia, but on the pathism,
a story that the country has seen,

673
00:56:37.639 --> 00:56:43.880
our newspaper of the House last week
of one of a couple of ladies owners,

674
00:56:43.960 --> 00:56:49.079
of a restaurant, in a modest
restaurant, on a road that they

675
00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:52.679
closed because they committed the sin of
giving breakfast to Maria Corina Machado and to

676
00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:58.320
fourteen members of their entourage in that
round that is making beautiful for the country,

677
00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:00.719
despite the fact that the candidate is
not really her. It' s

678
00:57:00.760 --> 00:57:02.480
not there that' s going to
appear on the ballots. They did not

679
00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:07.239
allow her to participate, but in
any case, she remains the top figure

680
00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:10.280
of the opposition. It does well
for me Alexandra, Chancellor Murillo and President

681
00:57:10.320 --> 00:57:15.000
Petro to say that they will not
go as election observers because the public excuse

682
00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:19.760
is that they do not have time
to prepare it. What they must be

683
00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:23.039
thinking about in Palacio is that they
cannot be complicit in what is possibly going

684
00:57:23.079 --> 00:57:27.559
to be, once again, an
electoral trap of enormous magnitudes. See a

685
00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:30.440
little bit of humor at five o' clock in the afternoon forty- one

686
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:37.239
minutes. I can tell here?
Yeah? Like this? Like this?

687
00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:45.840
Alexita Yes now, the twilight becomes
more greyish, but then little less where

688
00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:49.719
it is put, at least in
other places of truth that I know that

689
00:57:49.840 --> 00:57:54.320
there is one are radiant yet not
attacked. Over there, look over there.

690
00:57:54.480 --> 00:58:00.760
Excited you to where? That way? This joke can be a hit

691
00:58:00.960 --> 00:58:06.239
or a hit to see can it
be a hit? This joke will really

692
00:58:06.599 --> 00:58:16.679
be a treat that you imagine hearing
you know English why it means kismi kiss

693
00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:22.199
me good, but then you tell
me what j means is good. How

694
00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:27.159
thorny for the bike, no,
for that better than for the singing,

695
00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:30.000
though a little. Also yes,
little by the way if I know that

696
00:58:30.079 --> 00:58:37.599
you have gone from working and raising
but say that only work and work and

697
00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:40.320
no more work will make brother cry
no, but it is that sister one

698
00:58:40.360 --> 00:58:43.480
with three peeled. No. I
have more kids than crazy laughter. Or

699
00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:47.880
I' ll be competing with him
around. Crazy laugh. He doesn'

700
00:58:49.000 --> 00:58:51.159
t use spinosio bikes, yes,
of course not. I fall, because

701
00:58:51.239 --> 00:58:54.920
George or but he doesn' t
get around anymore, not just static,

702
00:58:55.199 --> 00:59:00.400
and that to hang clothes. No, but to hang clothes. Those people

703
00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:02.679
have the static for that and to
hang the towels. In pandemics, that

704
00:59:02.719 --> 00:59:07.519
was sold a bit of bicycles and
it was everybody' s TICA. Then

705
00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:09.800
nothing happened, no, and everyone
wanted to be a pandemic cyclist. You

706
00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:14.199
have to go breathe fresh air and
I don' t know that they'

707
00:59:14.199 --> 00:59:15.199
ve already saved it. No,
but if there are many people going out,

708
00:59:15.320 --> 00:59:19.719
that' s the madness out here
outside the city on those Sundays and

709
00:59:19.800 --> 00:59:22.679
Mondays you couldn' t on Sundays
and Saturday you can' t move and

710
00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:29.199
the climb to the calera, the
good courtyard and the cycle routes also work

711
00:59:29.199 --> 00:59:30.719
in Bogotá. I put a bike
on it. It doesn' t give

712
00:59:30.719 --> 00:59:34.559
me time, too, but I' ve had bros faces a long time

713
00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:36.960
ago. I give it to the
news, too. If he doesn'

714
00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:39.519
t tell you, what happens is
that if I don' t have children,

715
00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:44.320
but I have an essay, which
is like my daughter, my children,

716
00:59:44.719 --> 00:59:50.039
these are eggs, as I would
say to Clay, the eggs,

717
00:59:50.039 --> 00:59:52.639
I would say believe seen Christ.
But Alexandra does hit him on the bike,

718
00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:54.679
but every now and then, when
it' s something outside of Bogota,

719
00:59:55.320 --> 00:59:59.119
I force him to want and beat
him on the bike. So much

720
00:59:59.199 --> 01:00:05.400
so that it was that I beat
him and hit him well all this introduction

721
01:00:05.480 --> 01:00:08.360
and with the soil of tamuoncitos.
He doesn' t have a face for

722
01:00:08.360 --> 01:00:14.880
me. I have a bike,
but the static is me and there,

723
01:00:14.920 --> 01:00:17.039
with all this musical introduction, populate
me a little Shakira. I' ll

724
01:00:17.159 --> 01:00:24.559
tell you who' s coming,
right now, who we' re going

725
01:00:24.559 --> 01:00:30.119
to side are amorte la marte.
Here I kept this dream. What do

726
01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:37.280
I want you nanda that rancarizón,
the mors the love, because it is

727
01:00:37.360 --> 01:00:40.960
with us rigobertura and we could not
stop calling today, on the day of

728
01:00:42.079 --> 01:00:45.039
the bicycle, how we are going
how bad the boy, that is to

729
01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:49.639
be special to the grass brother,
already bogotá to all the people with which

730
01:00:50.039 --> 01:00:52.079
he is listening to us, I
say we tell them that this is a

731
01:00:52.079 --> 01:00:54.760
chinga brother. Really because the faraway
chints and today they bring us in campu

732
01:00:54.800 --> 01:00:58.480
cities in pure verraca. The visit. It' s a whoredom to me.

733
01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:02.159
No, or he' s on
the bike and a thief comes in

734
01:01:02.639 --> 01:01:05.800
and I lower it, he doesn' t put the bike down, he

735
01:01:05.800 --> 01:01:05.960
puts it down on the ticket and
you' re on the phone. That

736
01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:07.320
' s the way it was,
not the same. You don' t

737
01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:12.360
have to complain, brother, and
you don' t have to go and

738
01:01:12.440 --> 01:01:15.800
talk about ar chandar and there and
there and there you go, you can

739
01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:19.000
do the mandin bike and if you
fall, if you want your ass,

740
01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:21.639
you' ll hear it or.
I think this or something day for the

741
01:01:21.639 --> 01:01:24.800
bike is a natural. Thank you, I am that doubt. Aiga,

742
01:01:24.880 --> 01:01:28.239
I' m not saying opening,
talk about being off like that. But

743
01:01:28.840 --> 01:01:31.679
seriously and in figures more or less
praying how we are with bicycles not in

744
01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:37.519
Bogotá are done and I agree with
a survey that advanced the Secretariat of Mobility

745
01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:44.920
more than eight hundred eighty- six
zero almost nine hundred thousand trips a day.

746
01:01:45.119 --> 01:01:49.480
This has led to the defense of
the kilometers of cycle, routes and

747
01:01:49.559 --> 01:01:52.480
others that were implemented in the administration
of Claudia López. It is that Carlos

748
01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:57.519
Fernando Galán has left and has decided
to keep it there. The issue is

749
01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:01.760
insecurity. Increased police presences and security
devices, such as cameras, have been

750
01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:06.440
promised so that it is not a
risk for people to go out on the

751
01:02:06.519 --> 01:02:13.679
streets and expose their lives because they
steal their bike. Tempedemor the account that

752
01:02:13.840 --> 01:02:22.920
' s here. Yeah, yeah, that' s great, great jokes,

753
01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:27.079
I got a really good little buddy. Yes or no. The independent

754
01:02:27.079 --> 01:02:32.639
sportsman Medelline, he really does,
because Grandpa doesn' t demand alexita.

755
01:02:32.760 --> 01:02:37.039
I have the bad and the good. At this hour we have it,

756
01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:39.599
yes, the bad and the good. Now the moon will give for all

757
01:02:39.719 --> 01:02:46.159
bad and good. This is the
bad wing. Let' s see,

758
01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:51.519
and they tell the mother to the
son why you' re drunk. Mom

759
01:02:51.679 --> 01:02:58.360
you told me to get drunk,
you idiot, I told you to warm

760
01:02:58.360 --> 01:02:59.159
up, see if it was the
bad guy, it was the duel.

761
01:02:59.440 --> 01:03:04.119
It wasn' t uy, then
I was wrong. I think it'

762
01:03:04.119 --> 01:03:07.719
s good. Yeah, well,
now the real good one. Imagine that

763
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:13.519
in a beautiful hello type you give
me your phone guanca in the obvious.

764
01:03:13.639 --> 01:03:17.440
Not obvious, don' t get
lost, I' m not mugging you,

765
01:03:19.239 --> 01:03:21.400
give me that sheath and I think
you changed it for me. We

766
01:03:21.400 --> 01:03:22.920
' re going to some commercial messages
and they' re coming back. J

767
01:03:25.440 --> 01:03:38.119
or opening houses is winning. Radio
here starts without anespecia in snail firefly,

768
01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:45.360
radio and network more news. Pacho, I' m on the matter of

769
01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:46.920
lying down. I want to ask
you a question. I' ve wanted

770
01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:51.239
to do it for many years.
It' s true that you, before

771
01:03:51.239 --> 01:03:54.440
the kidnapping, someone told you not
to open a door. Yeah, one

772
01:03:54.480 --> 01:03:59.639
of them was what happened. Not
a medium that read energies. He told

773
01:03:59.719 --> 01:04:02.400
me how a year before he told
me to listen, I see a clock

774
01:04:02.480 --> 01:04:04.159
that stops and stops and stops in
his life and stops and archs back.

775
01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:08.400
I don' t understand what.
It' s but all I can say

776
01:04:08.400 --> 01:04:10.280
is don' t open that door. Don' t open that door.

777
01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:11.920
You wouldn' t have been in
the door. What door? You opened

778
01:04:12.039 --> 01:04:15.480
the car door when the cis story
came, of course because they were going

779
01:04:15.559 --> 01:04:18.039
to break my glass with a dana
soul and I said well, here I

780
01:04:18.039 --> 01:04:20.480
am already kidnapped. But I opened
the door Maybe if I hadn' t

781
01:04:20.519 --> 01:04:23.480
opened it, we could fly.
But look Pacho is saying it' s

782
01:04:23.559 --> 01:04:27.079
a wound you have there that you
want to close, and I thought you

783
01:04:27.119 --> 01:04:28.679
didn' t want to talk about
it, and that was the first thing

784
01:04:28.679 --> 01:04:30.719
we talked about. We' re
talking about the time of Turkish Paris,

785
01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:32.880
in Caracol, stereo playing this song
Enrique. It seems that I know yes,

786
01:04:33.440 --> 01:04:36.559
Mr Bueno Pachito, Santos, Bueno
Pacho, let' s talk about

787
01:04:36.719 --> 01:04:40.960
many issues with you, as Johanni
and Celissi say, with all the power

788
01:04:40.960 --> 01:04:43.519
of clear average. There' s
a survey of over 15, 000 people.

789
01:04:43.559 --> 01:04:47.119
The answers I vanisel Yes, sir, we have fifteen thousand six hundred

790
01:04:47.199 --> 01:04:49.280
and twenty- seven answers in this
zone of opinion. We ask You believe

791
01:04:49.400 --> 01:04:54.199
that things are going either right or
wrong in the country on the right track.

792
01:04:54.400 --> 01:04:59.280
Thirty- eight point five percent down
the road. Fifty- six point

793
01:04:59.639 --> 01:05:04.760
four percent. And it draws attention, Francis, that when we ask and

794
01:05:04.880 --> 01:05:09.280
we go to see regions, who
they think is on the right track,

795
01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:13.320
because fifty- two point eight percent
of the Caribbean region believes that things are

796
01:05:13.360 --> 01:05:17.639
going the right way, and the
region of the country that thinks things are

797
01:05:17.760 --> 01:05:23.280
going the wrong way is Antioquia and
the coffee axis with seventy point eight percent.

798
01:05:25.519 --> 01:05:30.480
Dr Francisco Santos, what is Uribism' s fault in Gustavo Petro'

799
01:05:30.920 --> 01:05:33.719
s election? It' s a
lot to be very honest. I think

800
01:05:33.719 --> 01:05:39.199
we' re wearing out. I
believe that the support for Juan Manuel and

801
01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:44.840
President Duque himself did not generate the
results that they would have generated to allow

802
01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:49.079
something that he would have maintained.
Let' s say a road in that

803
01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:55.440
direction and that wear generated, generated
the door to open for a person who

804
01:05:55.519 --> 01:05:59.599
was working this that was Petro.
But, anyway, what I do think

805
01:05:59.679 --> 01:06:03.159
we' re gonna tell them is
we weren' t gonna save them from

806
01:06:03.159 --> 01:06:08.280
this. We weren' t going
to save ourselves from this populist wave because

807
01:06:08.280 --> 01:06:13.760
anyway, they have very good narrative, they know how to do things and

808
01:06:13.760 --> 01:06:16.400
they touched us, unfortunately, not
the best of populists, because there are

809
01:06:16.559 --> 01:06:23.119
very good people, like Pepe Mujica
or tabari Bas, who are people who

810
01:06:23.159 --> 01:06:24.599
have, say, a capacity to
form and build. We got populism,

811
01:06:25.039 --> 01:06:28.400
let' s say more recalcitrant.
And that is sad because it has a

812
01:06:28.599 --> 01:06:31.000
terrible effect on the democratic left.
In Colombia, Joanni interrupted him. There

813
01:06:31.000 --> 01:06:34.440
is a thirty- eight five according
to this poll that says the sauces are

814
01:06:34.440 --> 01:06:38.760
going well, you think it goes
well in this government so that thirty-

815
01:06:38.880 --> 01:06:42.280
eight five are there and that on
the coast there are recognitions things that happen

816
01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:45.039
well in the government. I don' t know, don' t look,

817
01:06:45.159 --> 01:06:47.639
I do security counts We' re
wrong. The economy is bitten,

818
01:06:48.159 --> 01:06:50.679
the health issue is falling apart,
and what' s coming is terrible.

819
01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:56.920
The fiscal situation and the inflammation is
triggering, it' s going to raise

820
01:06:57.000 --> 01:06:59.719
money and that and that' s
going to generate inflation. I don'

821
01:06:59.760 --> 01:07:00.960
t see, I swear, I' m on it. If he saw

822
01:07:01.039 --> 01:07:05.239
something that said what a wonder,
he' d say it outside of Petro,

823
01:07:05.239 --> 01:07:08.800
whoever. But I don' t
see it, I don' t

824
01:07:08.920 --> 01:07:12.760
see it, fortunately, about the
safety issue, about another one of the

825
01:07:12.840 --> 01:07:15.719
questions we asked in our poll,
we asked people. You believe that during

826
01:07:15.719 --> 01:07:18.400
the last year security has improved,
it has worsened in the country. The

827
01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:23.639
numbers are tremendous. It' s
improved twenty- two percent. Still the

828
01:07:23.840 --> 01:07:28.440
same 17th point eight percent. It' s made fifty- eight point seven

829
01:07:28.559 --> 01:07:31.840
percent worse. And when we'
re going to zoom by region, no

830
01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:35.760
region, no region goes beyond twenty- five percent. Those who think he

831
01:07:35.840 --> 01:07:39.400
' s getting better and he comes
back and he plays. The ones who

832
01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:44.079
feel this is getting worse the most
is Antioquia and the Cafetero axis with seventy

833
01:07:44.639 --> 01:07:48.519
- two percent. Dr Francisco Santos
Mancuso is a peace manager. You are

834
01:07:48.639 --> 01:07:53.119
not afraid that now, in your
statements and in your stories, you will

835
01:07:53.199 --> 01:07:56.840
mention it again. As a member
of the capital block of self- defense,

836
01:07:57.000 --> 01:07:58.440
I' m sure he' ll
do it. I started the investigation

837
01:07:58.440 --> 01:08:01.000
in two thousand seven. The terms
had expired to me and I said look

838
01:08:01.039 --> 01:08:04.239
not I told the prosecution to take
off the terms that that gives the prosecutor

839
01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:10.519
two more years to investigate. They
closed the process because they found no evidence.

840
01:08:10.960 --> 01:08:14.599
They opened it again. It was
reopened later by pressure from NGOs,

841
01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:18.960
etcetera. And I' ve been
here since two thousand seven almost seventeen years

842
01:08:19.039 --> 01:08:21.359
without deciding anything because there' s
nothing, I mean, there' s

843
01:08:21.399 --> 01:08:25.560
not a single test. But I' m going to tell you an infidelity.

844
01:08:26.159 --> 01:08:30.640
When I was ambassador to the United
States, Mancuso was ready to go

845
01:08:30.720 --> 01:08:33.560
to Italy. When I saw that, I started moving very well in Congress

846
01:08:33.600 --> 01:08:39.039
with a friend who is a staffer
from one of the heaviest senators on the

847
01:08:39.079 --> 01:08:42.439
Justice Committee and I told him I
need to stop this and I need him

848
01:08:42.479 --> 01:08:45.279
sent to Colombia, because he has
to pay for his crimes in Colombia.

849
01:08:45.079 --> 01:08:47.920
He sent a very strong letter to
the Ministry of Justice. I forgot the

850
01:08:47.920 --> 01:08:51.039
senator' s name, but it' s from Bermont, one of the

851
01:08:51.119 --> 01:08:59.479
most important erectors. Immediately, Tony
General stopped the possibility that he would go

852
01:08:59.479 --> 01:09:01.279
to Paris, Italy, where he
would have been free, because there is

853
01:09:01.319 --> 01:09:05.279
no extradition treaty with Colombia and he
would have been calm. So, if

854
01:09:05.359 --> 01:09:10.399
I were afraid, you think I
have some water, something to come to

855
01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:13.760
Colombia. No, I do,
I think he has to pay for his

856
01:09:13.840 --> 01:09:17.239
crimes. Hey, babe, how
are you h Garry as our little girl

857
01:09:17.319 --> 01:09:18.880
' s little girl from the show? You know him, he listens to

858
01:09:18.880 --> 01:09:21.840
the show, but she likes to
talk as a journalist. So on top

859
01:09:21.920 --> 01:09:27.079
of it said Andrew more news and
the hairy firefly ahead. Good afternoon to

860
01:09:27.159 --> 01:09:32.279
the evenings garian las ceez. We' re Francisco, Pacho Santos, but

861
01:09:32.279 --> 01:09:38.159
he wants to ask you, Pacho, when you were little, you were

862
01:09:38.960 --> 01:09:40.279
a little bit, like an unstoppable
little bit. I was small, yes,

863
01:09:40.439 --> 01:09:45.319
I' m saying, but what
you don' t know Gabris is

864
01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:50.199
that an artist, a sculptor,
a painter, put a pruning on him

865
01:09:50.199 --> 01:09:55.399
when he was small. We'
re talking about the painter Alejandro Oregon.

866
01:09:55.920 --> 01:10:00.000
You remember what nickname he gave you, he gave me the mechanical rat because

867
01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:03.239
I got my dad. My dad
had to look, because that' s

868
01:10:03.479 --> 01:10:08.479
an insult I passed not, but
but it was within the genius of the

869
01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:15.239
master. Exactly look I spent my
first twelve years of life easily six in

870
01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:21.720
a room for jail. How punished. Then my dad had lunches and I

871
01:10:21.840 --> 01:10:25.000
was coming to school at four o' clock in the afternoon, at five

872
01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:28.640
six, seven years old, I
went this way. Soon I would sit

873
01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:30.920
here my legs of what it was
and I stayed the mechanical rat. Yeah,

874
01:10:32.039 --> 01:10:36.560
why. Another thing you knew was
what straw was fucked with food.

875
01:10:38.760 --> 01:10:43.159
He didn' t like food at
home. I lived that there are many

876
01:10:43.319 --> 01:10:47.880
kitchens of yours and it turns out
that there is a soup of the taken

877
01:10:47.880 --> 01:10:51.560
aja things. So, the pacho
house was with the wooden tablets and you

878
01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:57.680
what you were doing huiy mari what' s called if you look. I

879
01:10:58.159 --> 01:11:01.640
eat vegetables. Even he hears me
being veggies and that and then I took

880
01:11:01.760 --> 01:11:06.159
and saw that there was a tablet
that could get up and because they left

881
01:11:06.279 --> 01:11:09.920
me alone because they only made me
stop when the food was finished was gone.

882
01:11:10.039 --> 01:11:14.720
Everyone would come down, pick up
the board and put the vegetables there

883
01:11:14.760 --> 01:11:17.399
at three months. That sheath smelled
brother, the mechanical rat stayed small what

884
01:11:17.479 --> 01:11:23.079
you were, two months, two
months in prison. And it was.

885
01:11:23.880 --> 01:11:30.399
And the other question was that,
as you were, I saw the intent,

886
01:11:30.680 --> 01:11:34.159
you' d pass it through the
newspaper presses, like the lukel utricycle

887
01:11:34.319 --> 01:11:36.119
of a car, where you'
re not going. No. I have

888
01:11:36.239 --> 01:11:40.920
two anecdotes about that. One was
that I was getting into the stuff where

889
01:11:40.960 --> 01:11:45.079
they were carrying the papers and that
myth touched everyone else, because that'

890
01:11:45.159 --> 01:11:49.199
s a giant paper sheath. But
not ranches where those rolls were coming from,

891
01:11:49.399 --> 01:11:51.840
and I was riding on one side
and on the other. But the

892
01:11:51.960 --> 01:11:57.760
other one was that I was going
up to the place where the whole picture

893
01:11:57.800 --> 01:12:01.079
thing was, to the photo file
and I was stealing the photos and the

894
01:12:01.159 --> 01:12:03.279
old man I was driving, a
fantastic old man that I just forgot about.

895
01:12:03.319 --> 01:12:08.920
The name came out to haunt me
and it was me and he was

896
01:12:08.960 --> 01:12:15.720
chasing me through the furthest of those
pictures. Oyanter the pictures of ram Flatan.

897
01:12:15.840 --> 01:12:18.720
I see myself doing more. You
can' t go in there.

898
01:12:19.319 --> 01:12:25.760
But where he plays is his holy
feitus. Aya, no, no,

899
01:12:25.840 --> 01:12:28.239
no, it' s my turn
to put up with those things in chat.

900
01:12:28.560 --> 01:12:30.920
Orlando you are already our editor of
the news service of Caracol Radio in

901
01:12:31.000 --> 01:12:38.760
Villar Former Vice President Francisco Santos.
President Gustavo Petro has referred to the subject

902
01:12:39.279 --> 01:12:44.680
of the Constituent Assembly, the various
proposals that exist. He says he is

903
01:12:44.840 --> 01:12:48.319
not personally interested in re- election, but he did take advantage of it

904
01:12:48.359 --> 01:12:51.920
and those who called for war and
peace and who now propose coups d'

905
01:12:51.920 --> 01:12:57.920
état. He is clearly talking about
former presidents Juan Manuel Santos andÁlvaro Uribe

906
01:12:57.920 --> 01:13:00.000
Beles. The reason is one of
being President. They didn' t know

907
01:13:00.119 --> 01:13:05.239
what they signed. The unilateral declaration
of the State under the Vienna Convention obliges

908
01:13:05.279 --> 01:13:09.199
the parties to comply with what has
been agreed and remains for us. The

909
01:13:09.239 --> 01:13:12.359
President says three tasks, reading the
Convention well to read the peace agreement and

910
01:13:12.439 --> 01:13:15.960
fulfilling it. How do you read
that statement by the President? I'

911
01:13:16.199 --> 01:13:19.840
ll look at Petro. I don' t believe a father of ours read,

912
01:13:20.279 --> 01:13:24.520
because he changes his mind every second
he lies with a brazenness. He

913
01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:29.079
does want the constituent to stay,
let us not have the slightest doubt,

914
01:13:29.279 --> 01:13:31.680
which is what he wants to stay, stay in power. He already told

915
01:13:31.760 --> 01:13:34.800
you I don' t want a
constituent assembly. Now he wants a constituent

916
01:13:34.880 --> 01:13:41.600
assembly. Then he takes advantage.
I mean, he has a lot of

917
01:13:41.720 --> 01:13:46.800
ability to mess things up and show
his position from his look, but not

918
01:13:46.800 --> 01:13:49.600
necessarily with reality. Neither Santos nor
Uribe want a coup d'état.

919
01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:53.640
He didn' t become a constituent. Anyway, what I think is that

920
01:13:53.640 --> 01:13:57.560
he' s committed to a constituent
to stay. But Juan Manuel Santos and

921
01:13:58.359 --> 01:14:03.359
DrÁlvaro Uribe joined forces. Why
on this occasion Gustavo Petro tries to do

922
01:14:03.439 --> 01:14:06.760
so, if it is bad and
because he needs what the bill presents to

923
01:14:06.880 --> 01:14:13.119
Congress, that a constitutional reform is
needed. It' s just that things

924
01:14:13.119 --> 01:14:15.319
just like he should have done to
his health, he didn' t come

925
01:14:15.319 --> 01:14:15.760
out and threw it at him.
On the other hand, then, to

926
01:14:15.840 --> 01:14:18.479
do what the Congress does to present
a project, if that is what it

927
01:14:18.479 --> 01:14:27.479
wants, to be frank and do
it and say it, Ask me nllamire

928
01:14:27.520 --> 01:14:31.560
a taste Santa Fe, do not
look ay hello how very well and to

929
01:14:31.680 --> 01:14:34.600
me how you are here with Giovanni
Cellis and with all the viewers of network.

930
01:14:34.640 --> 01:14:40.640
More news. The teacher already tells
me you. Yeah, he brought

931
01:14:40.720 --> 01:14:43.640
new news. Yeah, yeah,
there' s not a lot of news

932
01:14:43.640 --> 01:14:53.720
going on. Or red duck or
how many years, sixty- three go

933
01:14:53.840 --> 01:14:58.159
do it for how if you still
get paid, that is to say if

934
01:14:58.239 --> 01:15:03.520
you get salary that I love you
eight. For now I am pensioned by

935
01:15:03.960 --> 01:15:11.720
the way or by the way,
which makes that if you fourth things in

936
01:15:11.760 --> 01:15:14.880
one here I keep everything. No, not really. I vote everything.

937
01:15:14.880 --> 01:15:19.119
I am very messy, but roas
per fando de Copocrofon said how you can

938
01:15:19.199 --> 01:15:24.640
bend so much that if you have
things, that it is very easy,

939
01:15:24.800 --> 01:15:28.840
that you lose it, I miss
everything. He didn' t say that

940
01:15:28.920 --> 01:15:31.920
if you don' t get to
talk so much, then shit, that

941
01:15:31.920 --> 01:15:35.399
' s right. I' m
going to shoot her calmly, the ra

942
01:15:35.520 --> 01:15:41.159
with you, but that' s
true, because I make you jerk off

943
01:15:41.279 --> 01:15:43.640
until the end of my life.
I' ll talk shit this day there

944
01:15:43.760 --> 01:15:45.079
' s night, but it'
s like this day that you don'

945
01:15:45.079 --> 01:15:48.239
t have any doubt. They heard
you viewers shit over there, over here,

946
01:15:48.399 --> 01:15:54.319
but I' m gonna or can' t. Yes well, I

947
01:15:54.439 --> 01:15:57.119
already thought that in case you asked
me the question and myself, if that

948
01:15:57.159 --> 01:16:12.479
is a very chaste word, how
was it or quacho that during the eight

949
01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:15.319
we will go back eight years of
Uribe' s government, you never found

950
01:16:15.399 --> 01:16:18.520
out that there were false positives in
Colombia. Of course not, of course

951
01:16:18.600 --> 01:16:21.800
I do. What is more,
we ourselves put the United Nations into action,

952
01:16:21.880 --> 01:16:26.239
and in the case of false positives, in order to control it,

953
01:16:26.239 --> 01:16:28.880
we make decisions. More than two
hundred soldiers ended up in prison, that

954
01:16:28.920 --> 01:16:32.079
is, the false poets ended up
when we found out and made very clear

955
01:16:32.079 --> 01:16:34.800
decisions about it. There' s
a story there that hasn' t been

956
01:16:34.920 --> 01:16:36.159
told and I' ll throw it
at another snitch. It will be told,

957
01:16:36.239 --> 01:16:41.640
but in a different way in a
short time, because it is that

958
01:16:41.680 --> 01:16:44.840
everything we did and I was one
of the people in charge with Carlos Franco,

959
01:16:44.880 --> 01:16:47.079
who, among others he was in
the hep with the victims and when

960
01:16:47.159 --> 01:16:49.880
he told them everything they did,
the victims said why. No one has

961
01:16:49.960 --> 01:16:53.800
ever told us this, because no
one has told us everything they did.

962
01:16:53.880 --> 01:16:57.119
Why not. Because here' s
a narrative that just shows the part,

963
01:16:57.319 --> 01:17:09.800
doesn' t show the other.
Yeah, well, they say that I

964
01:17:09.800 --> 01:17:13.920
question petro government activists, but you
had no problem sharing the government with those

965
01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:16.920
who were investigated and convicted of scandals
like that of the squawks of the time.

966
01:17:17.039 --> 01:17:23.920
Look at President Uribe, when there
were some chusadas, he took out

967
01:17:23.960 --> 01:17:29.600
how many members of the general police
and all that is forgotten when that is.

968
01:17:29.640 --> 01:17:33.479
In that the President was absolutely clear
and that is why I told him

969
01:17:33.520 --> 01:17:36.319
politics, security, democracies for everyone. And protecting everyone who could comment on

970
01:17:36.359 --> 01:17:41.279
that. Yes, he' s
not going to say no and that you

971
01:17:41.439 --> 01:17:45.560
break your soul as a citizen,
have done in a government the things that

972
01:17:45.640 --> 01:17:48.840
were done and suddenly a person make
those mistakes. Of course so, then.

973
01:17:49.399 --> 01:17:51.880
I' m not going to say
that we were all perfect either.

974
01:17:51.920 --> 01:17:56.479
We weren' t all perfect.
But what I quote very clearly is that

975
01:17:56.520 --> 01:18:00.760
President Uribe, when he heard about
the chusadas, made military decisions with police,

976
01:18:01.079 --> 01:18:05.920
with all those who are as few
where the points, every time he

977
01:18:06.399 --> 01:18:12.479
doesn' t have children, has
grandchildren who accompanied him, who take the

978
01:18:12.479 --> 01:18:20.359
route, take you the route.
I think it was a route. No.

979
01:18:20.439 --> 01:18:20.840
Don' t you? Don'
t you? Don' t you?

980
01:18:20.960 --> 01:18:25.760
Don' t you? I eat
a lot of fruit, I love

981
01:18:25.840 --> 01:18:41.079
fruit. I or if the rough
year two thousand twenty fran one kills that

982
01:18:43.680 --> 01:18:46.560
if I give a laugh to my
mother, if not or what little plot

983
01:18:46.840 --> 01:18:50.880
told you the cap tells me there
is a change another ta. I give

984
01:18:50.960 --> 01:18:55.319
him a little call, but I
also pray to my mamination. I'

985
01:18:55.399 --> 01:18:59.279
m sure because what you said,
the survey that about security two thousand twenty

986
01:19:00.119 --> 01:19:01.560
- six, is going to be
the foundation issue for me. Thank you

987
01:19:01.600 --> 01:19:04.720
so much for joining us. If
austerity well, I vanicated my move on.

988
01:19:05.000 --> 01:19:09.159
Done, when you' re in
Washington, you put all the eggs

989
01:19:09.199 --> 01:19:13.319
in favor of Trump. Trump lost, Byden left. What will happen if

990
01:19:13.960 --> 01:19:17.000
Trump comes to the United States and
here is President Petro. But let'

991
01:19:17.000 --> 01:19:19.960
s tell him. It' s
not true he' s put the eggs

992
01:19:20.760 --> 01:19:24.800
in or he' s gone.
You can also have good eggs or eggs.

993
01:19:25.880 --> 01:19:31.560
On the contrary, an event was
wanted in September in Miami with Duque

994
01:19:31.760 --> 01:19:34.720
and Trump, who was President,
and I opposed and told him no crazy.

995
01:19:35.319 --> 01:19:38.479
We' re two months away from
campaigning. They can' t do

996
01:19:39.079 --> 01:19:43.439
it and I mutated them. Then. That' s another narrative that'

997
01:19:43.520 --> 01:19:46.279
s not true. It was created
by x or by reason. But what

998
01:19:46.319 --> 01:19:49.840
I do want to say is that
Petro' s relationship with Trump is going

999
01:19:49.960 --> 01:19:56.039
to be very difficult, because Trump
comes with a very clear policy of me.

1000
01:19:56.159 --> 01:19:58.159
I give you this, you give
me this and he' s gonna

1001
01:19:58.239 --> 01:20:00.399
say or throw me a drug dealer. What are you doing? I'

1002
01:20:00.439 --> 01:20:01.840
m not doing anything. Well,
then you go, then let' s

1003
01:20:01.840 --> 01:20:04.600
get ready. If it comes to
a very difficult situation. Look at the

1004
01:20:04.680 --> 01:20:10.039
narratives. You put a trine that
says the first of May you rent indigenous

1005
01:20:10.159 --> 01:20:15.680
for marches for the right price and
jam. Please contact Crick Cauca and the

1006
01:20:15.079 --> 01:20:20.199
only Colombia or its manager, Petro
Gustavo. That' s also a narrative.

1007
01:20:20.239 --> 01:20:23.520
No, it' s not the
evidence. No. It is not

1008
01:20:23.760 --> 01:20:29.560
absolutely for those two, those two
organizations receive tens of billions of pesos that

1009
01:20:29.640 --> 01:20:32.880
have dramatically increased the last two are
the evidence. No, this is proof.

1010
01:20:33.399 --> 01:20:35.560
This is clear that they are false. If there is no proof,

1011
01:20:35.600 --> 01:20:41.119
no, don' t go and
see where those money is coming from,

1012
01:20:41.239 --> 01:20:43.960
how they get to cis money and
how they pay for everything they do.

1013
01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:45.800
And it' s with the money
the government gives them. That is absolutely

1014
01:20:45.960 --> 01:20:49.960
clear. That there' s a
biological affinity, of course, but they

1015
01:20:50.039 --> 01:20:53.880
pay like the first one. They
also paid for it and made buses and

1016
01:20:54.000 --> 01:20:57.039
everything, and the tests didn'
t show how that wasn' t.

1017
01:20:57.159 --> 01:21:00.520
The buses looked everywhere. But you
saw President of Colombia where the evidence is.

1018
01:21:01.319 --> 01:21:05.560
It' s very serious about me
and I reaffirm, I mean,

1019
01:21:06.319 --> 01:21:10.439
they didn' t take him to
the prosecution for telling you they haven'

1020
01:21:10.439 --> 01:21:12.439
t called me yet. No,
well, I think you' re going

1021
01:21:12.439 --> 01:21:13.880
to the broadcast. That way,
in the two thousand thirty- two arrive

1022
01:21:13.960 --> 01:21:24.000
enters between rea to give me a
small month after elmedo. But yes,

1023
01:21:24.159 --> 01:21:29.079
look there is a quid pro quo
that has to do with a brutal increase

1024
01:21:29.199 --> 01:21:32.199
in resources that remain in those two
organizations and, unfortunately, are reaching out

1025
01:21:32.279 --> 01:21:35.279
to the indigenous people. That'
s what saddened you the most. Well,

1026
01:21:35.359 --> 01:21:40.439
we' ve also had for many
years before the lucierra our holy pacho,

1027
01:21:40.600 --> 01:21:42.760
his double, his face- to- face, Pachito, how he

1028
01:21:42.880 --> 01:21:46.319
' s gonna fly Hello, Gabriel, how you are, how rich to

1029
01:21:46.319 --> 01:21:47.720
hear you see, what else,
Pachito, how more. It was Joon

1030
01:21:47.840 --> 01:21:54.560
' s play and they made it
the same and all clear, everyone for

1031
01:21:56.640 --> 01:21:59.840
the photo has how it' s
all about your life. Well, we

1032
01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:01.840
have to tear our face to face
with the two pacts. Well, it

1033
01:22:01.880 --> 01:22:05.680
' s not like I' m
starting to turn around right now, but

1034
01:22:06.800 --> 01:22:10.039
minute and co jokers deserve why not,' cause that guy fell Uncle Chao.

1035
01:22:11.880 --> 01:22:15.199
Well, come on, Pachito,
like you and I like video games,

1036
01:22:15.439 --> 01:22:18.000
but I' m going to mention
the name of three and you tell

1037
01:22:18.039 --> 01:22:20.199
me which one you like best.
You can only choose one. So,

1038
01:22:20.359 --> 01:22:24.640
well, put on trout, then
look. The first we gave The first

1039
01:22:24.640 --> 01:22:28.760
of the video games is called Superuribe
bros, it is to save the bad

1040
01:22:28.800 --> 01:22:30.399
guy from conviction, from the manipulation
of witnesses, because he can fall into

1041
01:22:30.399 --> 01:22:33.960
a prison. The second is called
FIFA two thousand twenty- four, which

1042
01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:36.640
consists in getting pacho Santos to finally
become mayor Bogota and so finish, because

1043
01:22:36.800 --> 01:22:42.560
in goal the play. And the
third is called civilization, which consists of

1044
01:22:42.600 --> 01:22:45.560
finding out and petrism and Uribu,
because they say they hate each other a

1045
01:22:45.640 --> 01:22:46.560
lot, but in the end they
are the same. Which one you like

1046
01:22:46.680 --> 01:22:50.239
best. Look no doubt superuri and
bros, because this injustice must be brought

1047
01:22:50.239 --> 01:22:53.479
to an end. But in addition, there is a good, very complicated

1048
01:22:53.600 --> 01:22:58.840
terma, and that game has a
virus called Camarguini and that and you have

1049
01:22:58.920 --> 01:23:00.840
to see how we defeat the Camarguin
virus and that that delay and delay and

1050
01:23:00.920 --> 01:23:04.359
delay and then you, that güey
one, the Pope does not you Pirus

1051
01:23:04.560 --> 01:23:08.840
k Margini, change every four years
that virus truth. Ah well, yes,

1052
01:23:08.960 --> 01:23:13.039
I have it ready here. Well
you now like the two straws,

1053
01:23:13.399 --> 01:23:15.720
you and me, because we like
the cinema and we even buy like the

1054
01:23:15.760 --> 01:23:18.159
chryspeta. There' s everything.
We buy this dad I' m dog

1055
01:23:18.279 --> 01:23:21.199
- sucking, and it' s
more than that before I turn to change

1056
01:23:21.319 --> 01:23:28.079
I see the real fact of everything. Well, look what happens is that

1057
01:23:28.159 --> 01:23:31.600
he sees then us, we eat
him up chocolates and everything already. But

1058
01:23:31.640 --> 01:23:34.600
you' re gonna name him three
politicians, and you' re gonna tell

1059
01:23:34.880 --> 01:23:36.039
me which one I wouldn' t
go to the movies with or pay him.

1060
01:23:36.560 --> 01:23:40.520
Yeah, and you have to tell
me why. The first Claudia Lopez,

1061
01:23:41.119 --> 01:23:45.479
the second Oscar Banzuluaga and the third
Gustavo Olivar. I too would do

1062
01:23:45.520 --> 01:23:46.359
it with Claudia Lopez, because I
did it or not. Well, let

1063
01:23:46.359 --> 01:23:48.960
' s see this one. No, no better this one, no,

1064
01:23:49.199 --> 01:23:53.279
no better this one, and we
last an hour to decide which one and

1065
01:23:53.359 --> 01:23:55.760
one and turn around and come and
here you say good. So, if

1066
01:23:55.800 --> 01:23:59.720
I don' t like the people
who have decis Claudia, I don'

1067
01:23:59.720 --> 01:24:01.000
t mean, but I' d
like to go with Gustavo Bolívar, really

1068
01:24:01.119 --> 01:24:02.960
with Gustavo Come on. A discount
to me Gabriel said when I was in

1069
01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:05.560
Congress, he told me and told
me that I liked Bolivar was a bacchan

1070
01:24:06.279 --> 01:24:10.520
and that he worked very well with
him. Okay, well, then you

1071
01:24:10.600 --> 01:24:15.039
go with Usa Olivar, you'
re ready to go with Gustavolio or Mira

1072
01:24:15.039 --> 01:24:16.760
Ivan, Chao Ivan, it'
s not going. Not me, if

1073
01:24:16.800 --> 01:24:20.920
there' s a mother, but
soil, but be good. Not me,

1074
01:24:21.079 --> 01:24:24.960
well, I' ll meet you
at the stadium. We' ll

1075
01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:30.439
see about that. Good, Gabriel
Aha, good. I think thank you,

1076
01:24:30.960 --> 01:24:33.640
Pachito, we connected with melquince dec
towers, which is located outside the

1077
01:24:33.640 --> 01:24:35.600
country, but it has to be
here with us without anistes. If in

1078
01:24:35.640 --> 01:24:40.319
three more news, Don Melki,
how do you go where you are I

1079
01:24:40.399 --> 01:24:45.039
greet you from Spain. Here is
one and thirty in the morning, so

1080
01:24:45.119 --> 01:24:49.239
I thank you very much for the
late night, but it comes out right

1081
01:24:49.399 --> 01:24:53.800
now and there are eight hundred bars
open to take seven hundred. Miss I

1082
01:24:53.880 --> 01:24:56.239
think it' s settled. This
one' s already fixed for the FOFA.

1083
01:24:56.319 --> 01:25:00.159
Yeah, no, no, we
didn' t have to be here

1084
01:25:00.159 --> 01:25:04.720
yet. For this, Mr Santos. I was already asking Giovannice Ellis about

1085
01:25:04.760 --> 01:25:11.600
the political responsibility of the Urib government. You were part of that government eight

1086
01:25:11.800 --> 01:25:16.560
years, four more years of Ivan
Duque in the hands of Uribism the country.

1087
01:25:17.760 --> 01:25:21.600
You believe that you have the moral
authority to tell the country that you

1088
01:25:21.760 --> 01:25:26.439
are the opposition to what is happening
with Gustavo Petro, after having governed twelve

1089
01:25:26.560 --> 01:25:30.199
years and not having made the fundamental
radical changes that the country has expected in

1090
01:25:30.760 --> 01:25:35.199
terms of inequality, in terms of
violence, in terms of drug trafficking,

1091
01:25:35.920 --> 01:25:40.159
It seems to you that you have
the moral authority for that, after having

1092
01:25:40.199 --> 01:25:45.199
held office twelve years, eight of
you four dukes and not having generated those

1093
01:25:45.199 --> 01:25:48.199
modifications that the country expected. Look
I' ll answer you for eight years

1094
01:25:48.199 --> 01:25:51.319
of ours, where we left a
health system that was at thirty percent by

1095
01:25:51.399 --> 01:25:55.920
almost one hundred percent, where you
remember what Colombia was. In the year

1096
01:25:56.000 --> 01:25:59.079
two thousand and two, the young
Dominicans have four hundred mayors. They can

1097
01:25:59.159 --> 01:26:01.399
' t be in their city.
They ruled from the capitals. You went

1098
01:26:01.399 --> 01:26:04.439
out to Bogotá and kidnapped him.
You guys gave me out of there and

1099
01:26:04.439 --> 01:26:09.000
kidnapped him. We reduced the kidnappings
from about three zero to less said,

1100
01:26:09.119 --> 01:26:14.319
we reduced the dead. In almost
half of those killed, the country began

1101
01:26:14.479 --> 01:26:16.439
to grow. If we missed things. He' s not going to say

1102
01:26:16.439 --> 01:26:18.680
no, and that' s why
I responded with a flimsy answer. I

1103
01:26:18.760 --> 01:26:25.239
said yes, of course we have
some responsibility. I believe that because neither

1104
01:26:25.760 --> 01:26:30.479
President Duque nor President Santos kept the
same path. But I of the government

1105
01:26:30.560 --> 01:26:35.439
of President Uribel, that I was
his vice president. I' m deeply

1106
01:26:35.439 --> 01:26:39.039
proud. And if we transform Colombia
it' s more like one thing.

1107
01:26:39.720 --> 01:26:41.720
If they tell me in two thousand
two that in two thousand ten we will

1108
01:26:41.840 --> 01:26:44.199
deliver the country as we deliver it, I would have said that is impossible.

1109
01:26:45.439 --> 01:26:47.159
But if we did and the country
changed later, they became the position

1110
01:26:47.319 --> 01:26:55.760
of Guanmanuel Santos, yes for his
cousin. Besides, then how do I

1111
01:26:55.760 --> 01:26:59.319
get back. I insist on the
question. You believe the real opposition you

1112
01:26:59.359 --> 01:27:02.079
need country for what is happening today. I think we are an important part

1113
01:27:02.199 --> 01:27:04.159
of the opposition. We' re
not all of it. We have to

1114
01:27:04.239 --> 01:27:09.760
add a lot more. I think
it' s time not only to feel

1115
01:27:10.640 --> 01:27:15.479
like one owning the opposition, but
to open a few doors, because there

1116
01:27:15.479 --> 01:27:17.600
are many people who are thinking differently, who want to do different things and

1117
01:27:18.079 --> 01:27:21.079
I think that in the twenty-
six thousand we have to add all those

1118
01:27:21.159 --> 01:27:24.800
who are here where I think there
are people from center, center left and

1119
01:27:24.880 --> 01:27:30.760
center right and right who can add
up to rebuild what Petro is going to

1120
01:27:30.760 --> 01:27:32.279
leave us, which is going to
be a disaster if we can get it

1121
01:27:32.359 --> 01:27:36.000
out, which I think is still
in doubt if we can get it out,

1122
01:27:36.359 --> 01:27:39.119
if you did in Petro not finish
the Presidency. No, no,

1123
01:27:39.199 --> 01:27:42.560
no, no, if we can
get out, see if we can get

1124
01:27:42.560 --> 01:27:45.399
the two thousand twenty says he'
s going well, let him go in

1125
01:27:45.479 --> 01:27:46.000
the two thousand twenty- six.
It' s worth it, clarity,

1126
01:27:46.640 --> 01:27:48.520
a certain reason we' re looking
for everything. No prisoner, no one

1127
01:27:48.520 --> 01:27:50.800
has, no one has. No. I am one of those who in

1128
01:27:50.880 --> 01:27:54.760
the marches were petro and no,
why let it end, but let us

1129
01:27:54.840 --> 01:27:58.079
stop the damage that will be.
We' re still in the Lucierraga.

1130
01:27:58.159 --> 01:28:01.600
We are in this special of Monday
teestivo with the transmission of without Anesthesia and

1131
01:28:01.680 --> 01:28:08.079
Pacos Santos, but before information with
Orlando Villar and all his team, Alexandra

1132
01:28:08.479 --> 01:28:12.600
new in the mobility. We follow
the blockade in the cross- section of

1133
01:28:12.760 --> 01:28:15.920
Cusiana del Cisga and the sovereignty that
have the departments of Norte de Santander of

1134
01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:20.960
today Acá, isolated with the eastern
plains and Caquetárauca and, of course,

1135
01:28:21.119 --> 01:28:27.119
the department of Meta, that other
novelties are presented at this time in terms

1136
01:28:27.199 --> 01:28:31.239
of mobility and plan return Juliana de
los Ríos Buenas Noches. Orlando and Alexandra

1137
01:28:31.319 --> 01:28:34.399
have left more than nine hundred thousand
vehicles of Bogotá and have also entered more

1138
01:28:34.439 --> 01:28:38.920
than eight hundred fifty thousand, which
was what the transit authorities had planned.

1139
01:28:40.000 --> 01:28:43.239
As for the regional bill and plate, drivers are reminded that from 4 p

1140
01:28:43.479 --> 01:28:46.760
m to 8 p m, only
vehicles with plates completed in odd numbers can

1141
01:28:46.800 --> 01:28:50.960
enter Bogotá, as I say,
until 8 p m and after this time

1142
01:28:51.000 --> 01:28:58.399
any vehicle can enter the city.
As for terminals, the three terminals of

1143
01:28:58.439 --> 01:29:01.000
the capital have mobilized more than one
hundred and seventy- eight thousand passengers and

1144
01:29:01.039 --> 01:29:04.960
have carried out more than fourteen zero
dispatches, being the terminal of exit of

1145
01:29:05.039 --> 01:29:10.119
which the most number of passengers has
had about nine hundred thousand passengers and more

1146
01:29:10.199 --> 01:29:13.520
than twelve thousand dispatches. So far, the transit authorities have imposed more than

1147
01:29:13.640 --> 01:29:18.119
eight hundred and twenty entries, comparing
them precisely for failing to comply with the

1148
01:29:18.199 --> 01:29:24.520
measure of the regional peak and plate, and at this moment there is moderate

1149
01:29:24.600 --> 01:29:31.560
capacity in the corridors of entry and
exit of the capital. The moon hasn

1150
01:29:31.640 --> 01:29:40.359
' t arrived without anaesthetic. Diana
Calderón and Lora 20. I am Diana

1151
01:29:40.600 --> 01:29:44.920
Calderón and the debate is directed by
me I greet you for the listeners who,

1152
01:29:45.119 --> 01:29:49.800
while tuning us on the stream,
take a whisky from Rocks and take

1153
01:29:49.880 --> 01:29:54.800
Glody Maryol Tom Collins. For its
part, the flight in Sanchez laughs crazy

1154
01:29:54.880 --> 01:29:59.880
and cocolyx. I was invited to
take some well- baked guariylques and that

1155
01:30:00.319 --> 01:30:01.800
what' s a problem is not
a reed. What do I know that

1156
01:30:01.840 --> 01:30:05.359
I refuse to follow, please,
today' s subject. For what has

1157
01:30:05.479 --> 01:30:13.800
served so far the figure of the
Vice President in Colombia, the panelists Antonio

1158
01:30:13.800 --> 01:30:19.560
Navarro Viana, the Vice President France
Márquez, a cordial greeting, Pascual Gaviria

1159
01:30:20.199 --> 01:30:26.840
Holoriara how you are and accompany us
the former Vice President Francis Francisco Santos,

1160
01:30:27.000 --> 01:30:29.560
the true how has gone vices.
Thank you so much for inviting me and

1161
01:30:29.640 --> 01:30:33.920
coming to the stadium last Sunday with
Rafael and here ready to debate to give

1162
01:30:34.039 --> 01:30:38.439
him to see calm. A greeting
to my colleague Giovanni Celis, director of

1163
01:30:38.600 --> 01:30:42.800
Red More news sit at home and
enjoy, but don' t forget that

1164
01:30:42.840 --> 01:30:45.520
the debate is directed by me Hello
Diana, I as always very happy to

1165
01:30:45.560 --> 01:30:48.520
be here and you have to go
to network more news for me to tell

1166
01:30:48.600 --> 01:30:53.880
you there the newscast I run it
the same. I don' t get

1167
01:30:53.880 --> 01:30:59.359
too rigged. Begin the debate begins, Antonio Navarro, or thank you,

1168
01:31:00.079 --> 01:31:03.399
greetings. I think the line is
the edge, there' s both,

1169
01:31:03.520 --> 01:31:08.640
two, two, two, deals. That' s why we can'

1170
01:31:08.720 --> 01:31:10.600
t plough that or not. I
don' t, because what I'

1171
01:31:11.199 --> 01:31:12.560
d already say you' d bump
into it. How am I going to

1172
01:31:12.560 --> 01:31:17.479
say you guys, he' s
a little exaggerated. There are two of

1173
01:31:17.880 --> 01:31:20.439
us, yes, it' s
been very complicated. You have to get

1174
01:31:20.439 --> 01:31:25.159
ready. I believe that the Vice
Presidency has only served to ensure that those

1175
01:31:25.199 --> 01:31:28.119
who occupy it have nothing to do. And then, as happened with Pacho,

1176
01:31:28.359 --> 01:31:30.800
he was sent off to the United
States now and for then backing candidate

1177
01:31:30.880 --> 01:31:34.840
Donald Trump, he was breaking relations
between the two countries. There I saw

1178
01:31:34.920 --> 01:31:40.279
him bad brother responds to part,
paschalito man, man, for no ah

1179
01:31:40.279 --> 01:31:43.119
te, but, as ahoritica,
there are no longer clear epces to make

1180
01:31:43.520 --> 01:31:48.119
a betterralito or some. Of course
I, all that polito was already melo,

1181
01:31:48.199 --> 01:31:53.680
claud but what happens to me is
that I never checked, never Chicane.

1182
01:31:54.439 --> 01:31:57.960
And speaking of that and the other, remember that you already told me

1183
01:31:58.079 --> 01:32:01.399
the question. I did say they
rent Indians for marches for the price of

1184
01:32:01.439 --> 01:32:05.000
the right hervelada. Yes, and
I said it and this is the unik

1185
01:32:05.079 --> 01:32:14.840
still dissu manager clear that I said
it France Manquez, my esteemed panelists,

1186
01:32:15.880 --> 01:32:21.520
panelists. I want to tell a
pacho Santos what a pacho. Only someone

1187
01:32:21.640 --> 01:32:28.760
with a slave and colonial mentality can
propose such a thing. And I don

1188
01:32:28.840 --> 01:32:34.479
' t answer any more because I
don' t go in my helicopter to

1189
01:32:34.600 --> 01:32:36.760
buy 1, 500 of something called
and I don' t know. I

1190
01:32:36.960 --> 01:32:42.520
' m in the rage outside of
res no vice president put down that lycoter

1191
01:32:42.600 --> 01:32:44.680
and like you, it doesn'
t pay even the quiet gasoline. How

1192
01:32:44.760 --> 01:32:48.279
about this one, sir I'
m not getting off my helicopter. I

1193
01:32:48.399 --> 01:32:54.319
got on it today and I'
ll be back tomorrow and I' ll

1194
01:32:54.319 --> 01:32:56.119
be in pain of the one who
hurts the night of bad. He can

1195
01:32:56.119 --> 01:33:00.640
cry, you can scream, he
can kneel. Not me who' s

1196
01:33:00.680 --> 01:33:02.119
going to squeal. That' s
why they made the layer of ge dig.

1197
01:33:02.279 --> 01:33:08.680
Also hit the mate and I anni
look I do. I think the

1198
01:33:08.760 --> 01:33:12.880
Vice Presidency has at least served to
allocate billions and billions and billions of pesos

1199
01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:16.880
to a figure that is not even
clear. Their functions are all of them.

1200
01:33:17.800 --> 01:33:25.920
It' s true, the one
who brought us took us. That

1201
01:33:27.560 --> 01:33:32.119
' s Navarro, but he'
s not ready. It' s a

1202
01:33:32.840 --> 01:33:45.920
lot, it' s a plant
you do, it looks naga two survey

1203
01:33:45.920 --> 01:33:49.439
results. Pacho we ask you that
you believe that the Government has done enough

1204
01:33:49.600 --> 01:33:55.119
to deal with the recent cases of
corruption in the national disaster risk management unit.

1205
01:33:55.840 --> 01:33:59.399
Yes, he answered thirty- six
point three percent. He doesn'

1206
01:33:59.399 --> 01:34:03.039
t know. It doesn' t
answer six point two percent and not fifty

1207
01:34:03.239 --> 01:34:09.000
- seven point five percent. We
asked another question. You consider that pension

1208
01:34:09.079 --> 01:34:14.479
reform favors you. Yes, I' m favored by thirty- five point

1209
01:34:14.640 --> 01:34:17.680
six percent. I don' t
like forty- five point one percent.

1210
01:34:18.319 --> 01:34:23.439
You don' t know the reform
pension eleven point seven percent. Not knowing

1211
01:34:23.479 --> 01:34:27.800
doesn' t answer seven point six
percent. In this scenario, pacho,

1212
01:34:27.920 --> 01:34:30.199
there is a lot of opposition,
but there is no candidate that causates.

1213
01:34:30.600 --> 01:34:34.239
Who should be the candidate to face
Petro or the one who says Petro in

1214
01:34:34.319 --> 01:34:36.920
two thousand twenty. I' m
honest with you. I think he'

1215
01:34:36.960 --> 01:34:41.399
s going to talk about presidential candidatures. It' s premature. I think

1216
01:34:41.439 --> 01:34:45.720
it' s time to preserve democracy. I am sure that at good or

1217
01:34:45.760 --> 01:34:49.520
bad times, Petro will want to
impose his Constituent Assembly and we have to

1218
01:34:49.600 --> 01:34:55.039
work so that we can reach twenty- six without constituent assemblies. Not even

1219
01:34:55.039 --> 01:34:58.680
in a year, two thousand twenty- five will be known, but I

1220
01:34:58.880 --> 01:35:00.039
am at the moment is an issue
of activism which is, moreover, what

1221
01:35:00.039 --> 01:35:02.720
I like. That' s what
I did with a free country and all

1222
01:35:02.840 --> 01:35:06.399
that street stuff. We want to
do a lot of street and he didn

1223
01:35:06.399 --> 01:35:12.000
' t make marches, no yes, those of ninety- six, ninety

1224
01:35:12.119 --> 01:35:15.960
- eight ninety- nine against kidnapping
at the time and that' s what

1225
01:35:16.039 --> 01:35:18.039
I' m not even thinking about
candidates because right now. I feel that

1226
01:35:18.119 --> 01:35:24.039
democracy is entangled. For the first
time I am afraid that we may lose

1227
01:35:24.119 --> 01:35:27.840
democracy and say order of ideas.
It' s good that you take out

1228
01:35:27.920 --> 01:35:30.640
congressmen, congressmen' s posters,
expose them and say they expropriated the pension.

1229
01:35:30.880 --> 01:35:32.920
They exploit the prison. That'
s good. That' s healthy.

1230
01:35:32.960 --> 01:35:36.920
I think it is important that they
understand that their decision has a political

1231
01:35:38.039 --> 01:35:40.680
effect, in fact, socially.
It' s democratic. Sure, it

1232
01:35:40.800 --> 01:35:42.880
' s a democratic session. Why
it does not have to question, no,

1233
01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:45.680
no, why it will affect millions
and millions of citizens. And I

1234
01:35:45.680 --> 01:35:48.600
think citizens need to know. This
one voted for this and this one voted

1235
01:35:48.600 --> 01:35:51.199
for this. That' s what
gringos call accountability, that is, you

1236
01:35:51.199 --> 01:35:55.239
have to answer for what affects according
to who, according to your vision?

1237
01:35:56.079 --> 01:35:59.680
As you know, what' s
going to happen with the issue of pensions

1238
01:35:59.760 --> 01:36:02.680
right now is that those four hundred
million pesos are going to start handing over

1239
01:36:02.760 --> 01:36:08.119
to the can in subsidies and silver
or paying the pensions of the future is

1240
01:36:08.199 --> 01:36:11.199
not going to exist. That happened
already in Argentina, that happened already in

1241
01:36:11.399 --> 01:36:15.840
Venezuela and those who come behind none
are going to pension. That' s

1242
01:36:15.880 --> 01:36:19.359
the saddest thing ever. So,
for me, the important thing is that

1243
01:36:19.520 --> 01:36:23.319
there is fiscal health in that management, which I think is not going to

1244
01:36:23.319 --> 01:36:27.199
be good with Petro. Sir and
it' s time to eat something makes

1245
01:36:27.279 --> 01:36:30.520
us hungry and we get not into
the kitchen, but the knife of Jedion

1246
01:36:30.520 --> 01:36:38.680
Dini Paparotti, Chao caro Libio,
Now of course, Chao, I'

1247
01:36:38.720 --> 01:36:43.920
m not leaving how it is.
I said Paulinin spread to him his chef

1248
01:36:44.119 --> 01:36:48.800
Hedion of Paratini and I am a
proud children of Torino to Torino of San

1249
01:36:48.880 --> 01:36:55.399
Victorino in this and my mother said
nothing of a hundred to Italy. He

1250
01:36:56.079 --> 01:37:01.600
said so we' re going to
Gabriacho who' s here, to Pacini.

1251
01:37:02.039 --> 01:37:09.399
You knew you were a very soliciting
showsho, a sofish so or partner

1252
01:37:09.399 --> 01:37:12.279
imagine. The amount of Georghi is
that he has known Pacho Sanchez Yes and

1253
01:37:12.359 --> 01:37:18.680
quite learned sodas Hahahahajaja and Giovanni too. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1254
01:37:18.680 --> 01:37:24.279
Every day I met a new Schon. Everyone wants to do business with

1255
01:37:24.399 --> 01:37:30.359
you, Gabriela. The news of
my ortho, of his orchard is not

1256
01:37:30.399 --> 01:37:32.680
good. The news now wants to
cover it up for me. They want

1257
01:37:32.720 --> 01:37:35.479
to cover his death. You imagine
my poor orte when they put a stopper

1258
01:37:35.560 --> 01:37:42.920
on its only stairway has a leak
of water and they want it Taponas,

1259
01:37:43.039 --> 01:37:45.960
the orchard has a leak of water
that a giant cork wants to put on

1260
01:37:46.000 --> 01:37:48.640
my horte. But I don'
t know why they want to cover the

1261
01:37:48.680 --> 01:37:51.640
garden so it doesn' t have
water leaks, because it' s sucking

1262
01:37:51.640 --> 01:37:57.000
me. Well, let' s
go with the knife and chaludo to my

1263
01:37:57.000 --> 01:37:59.720
cheve invites Dini, Pacho Santini.
We' ll see if it has anything

1264
01:37:59.760 --> 01:38:02.199
to do with peace. The biggest
of my pig starts by telling me how

1265
01:38:02.319 --> 01:38:08.119
your ortho is. My ortho,
it' s florechito, my orchestra of

1266
01:38:08.199 --> 01:38:11.359
the bad as the ortho. And
let' s not talk about my own

1267
01:38:11.720 --> 01:38:18.159
bergoña, my shame, my bergoña
shame, the bag By the way master,

1268
01:38:18.920 --> 01:38:27.279
about the lemonization of milo larin we
poked a chicken in fresh sauce with

1269
01:38:27.319 --> 01:38:32.199
some disposal. There health carcarato,
but health rain, free, pacho,

1270
01:38:32.880 --> 01:38:36.920
better ecchinemo, a chicken chancocho,
in the style of those who supported Uribe

1271
01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:42.199
' s indefinite re- election.
But now they don' t like that

1272
01:38:42.319 --> 01:38:47.000
Pedro Gara already who in power nechasitamos
moita mul tarrapadilla and more coleamos and more

1273
01:38:47.079 --> 01:38:51.239
coleamos con pacho, because that'
s what comes to us with these politicians.

1274
01:38:51.359 --> 01:38:56.439
Na robadilla follow che pacho Santini,
but eye with my legs, the

1275
01:38:56.600 --> 01:39:00.399
legs of gallina to Sancochinique gave a
dina on the legs. You have to

1276
01:39:00.439 --> 01:39:05.520
think that petor wants, you want
in the powers not nack nack we add

1277
01:39:06.319 --> 01:39:12.319
onion a lot of chipola than a
tini. He likes long hello he prefers

1278
01:39:15.039 --> 01:39:24.439
capetolo and huey piche prechidente. I' ll learn the long word from the

1279
01:39:24.439 --> 01:39:30.279
dick, but gloga. Anyone longs
and I imagine you' ll prep your

1280
01:39:30.359 --> 01:39:36.359
head. I know what a bad
Lenwine, for trying on Gallinini' s

1281
01:39:36.359 --> 01:39:42.800
sancocho. We add you and if
we mix seasoning for you to catch chabors,

1282
01:39:43.319 --> 01:39:45.319
cheppacho Santini, how you do with
the nail or you are no longer

1283
01:39:45.319 --> 01:39:50.159
for it. Great, great,
I cry out to you wonderful, sing

1284
01:39:50.279 --> 01:39:56.640
everything not your nails sorry. This
is my thing. It adds as potato

1285
01:39:56.720 --> 01:40:01.800
olta, boiling water, because the
re- election of boiling Petro, Pope

1286
01:40:01.800 --> 01:40:09.680
and wind. On the other hand, Uribe' s re- election was

1287
01:40:09.680 --> 01:40:11.880
a Chinese cardinal' s mouth.
We got him there complicated to add the

1288
01:40:12.000 --> 01:40:17.800
turnip and that couple of little criollas, so small to complain strangely I can

1289
01:40:17.920 --> 01:40:25.720
bring him every Tuesday. We do
not allow it to cool and serve it

1290
01:40:25.760 --> 01:40:29.319
as a political piece of information and
so far it is a session in which

1291
01:40:29.399 --> 01:40:30.359
we use it fruits, wilds,
three, fourteen, two, eighty-

1292
01:40:30.359 --> 01:40:33.079
eight. Hey, man, no, no, we' re not gonna

1293
01:40:33.079 --> 01:40:35.640
talk about it. I' m
going back to Madrid with LQUICDC. We

1294
01:40:35.720 --> 01:40:40.800
return live online more news for trikw
Caracol, com com he wanted here it

1295
01:40:40.800 --> 01:40:45.880
is. Pacho Santos X Vice President
of the Republic. Mr SantosÁlvaro Uribe

1296
01:40:46.000 --> 01:40:51.119
was re- elected thanks to a
constitutional reform in the famous articulito, that

1297
01:40:51.119 --> 01:40:55.960
is, when Uribe was elected in
two thousand twenty- two, there was

1298
01:40:55.960 --> 01:40:59.800
no re- election. Yes,
and that happened thanks to some moves in

1299
01:41:00.039 --> 01:41:02.359
the Congress of the Republic, of
which the country already knows, because one

1300
01:41:02.800 --> 01:41:10.720
can do the same. Gustavo Petru
will modify the Constitution and aspire to be

1301
01:41:10.760 --> 01:41:13.880
elected in the same way that he
did to value look. I think you

1302
01:41:14.000 --> 01:41:16.960
do have the right to do it, but as you should do, presenting

1303
01:41:17.079 --> 01:41:20.840
the law, saying I want to
be re- elected and playing it in

1304
01:41:20.840 --> 01:41:26.000
Congress. What happens is that Petro
prefers to do things by force, as

1305
01:41:26.000 --> 01:41:29.720
he did about health. He dropped
the health that is breaking the PCES and

1306
01:41:29.760 --> 01:41:33.079
is transforming the PCs by force,
and not through a democratic debate, everything

1307
01:41:33.079 --> 01:41:36.399
that is for democracy, through democracy, with democracy and respecting acceptable democracy.

1308
01:41:41.079 --> 01:41:47.199
For that we are and democracy has
to accept that about the possibility that Salvatore

1309
01:41:47.239 --> 01:41:53.159
Mancuso will again accuse you of the
never proven until now, at least in

1310
01:41:53.239 --> 01:41:57.159
the creation justice of the capital block. But beyond that, it will in

1311
01:41:57.239 --> 01:42:02.000
due course be justice that determines.
You believe that paramilitarism in Colombia was a

1312
01:42:02.119 --> 01:42:08.479
necessary evil, or was a disgrace
to the country. Or it was an

1313
01:42:08.680 --> 01:42:11.159
exercise in self- defence. It
wasn' t a disgrace to the country.

1314
01:42:11.239 --> 01:42:15.079
I' m telling you, it
certainly starts with drug trafficking when they

1315
01:42:15.079 --> 01:42:17.880
kill kidnappers, when 19 of them
kidnap me, Ochoa snows. There begins

1316
01:42:18.640 --> 01:42:23.159
the weakness of the presidents in strengthening
security. He made people have to turn

1317
01:42:23.239 --> 01:42:27.359
to that to defend themselves. It
was a disaster look In the twelve thousandth

1318
01:42:27.439 --> 01:42:30.640
the country was one third hands of
the guerrillas, one third hands of paramilitaries

1319
01:42:30.680 --> 01:42:35.880
and citizens of ever more restricted good. I believe that the extradition of all

1320
01:42:35.880 --> 01:42:40.000
leaders to the military was something that
served him a great deal. I believe

1321
01:42:40.000 --> 01:42:42.560
that what was done to her,
what was done to the paramilitaries, including

1322
01:42:42.600 --> 01:42:45.079
the process with muchtincupas, put many
in jail, many and it is a

1323
01:42:46.800 --> 01:42:50.680
sad story. I can tell you
clearly, it' s a sad story

1324
01:42:50.800 --> 01:42:57.640
of this country. Thanks a lot
to It' s one of the pensions

1325
01:42:57.640 --> 01:43:00.479
of the songs. You' re
sixty- three already. Yes, it

1326
01:43:00.520 --> 01:43:04.119
' s already mentioned. I got
a pension in December last year. I

1327
01:43:04.159 --> 01:43:08.359
mean, yes for four times.
How much suppression, nine million pesos.

1328
01:43:09.760 --> 01:43:11.760
He doesn' t have a mega, pension, no, no, no,

1329
01:43:12.600 --> 01:43:14.079
no, no 15 or 20 million. No. No. No.

1330
01:43:14.319 --> 01:43:17.000
I have a pension and they take
one from me for health. So it

1331
01:43:17.079 --> 01:43:21.159
' s not me I quoted almost
two thousand five hundred weeks, forty years

1332
01:43:21.600 --> 01:43:24.840
of work, and they' ve
already done the math. Well, he

1333
01:43:25.520 --> 01:43:28.760
arrived and I thank the state and
it' s forty years of service and

1334
01:43:28.840 --> 01:43:30.000
hopefully, many more could have access
to that pension and they wouldn' t

1335
01:43:30.000 --> 01:43:33.239
want it. Good paucho. Thank
you very much, amal Quise who accompanies

1336
01:43:33.319 --> 01:43:40.279
us from Madrid. How is it
to act you dundos It was clear to

1337
01:43:40.479 --> 01:43:43.039
us a time of novel. There' s more news in the firefly.

1338
01:43:45.000 --> 01:43:53.840
The firefly and see more news presents
exclusively its acclaimed tragicomedy The Rich. She

1339
01:43:54.000 --> 01:44:00.600
also cries with the participation of Gustavo
Francisco as the father, Laura Camila as

1340
01:44:00.680 --> 01:44:06.880
the mother and absolute head of the
household, the Baby as the daughter France,

1341
01:44:08.279 --> 01:44:14.199
Elena as the aunt and Gustavo Bolivar
as the neighbor. Today with Francisco

1342
01:44:14.279 --> 01:44:26.840
Santos' star performance as the energy
technician, the rich also cry. When

1343
01:44:26.960 --> 01:44:30.079
they were ready to list everything for
the meal and close a great day in

1344
01:44:30.239 --> 01:44:35.000
the most exclusive house of Nariño,
they rang and without knowing who that hour

1345
01:44:35.760 --> 01:44:43.359
could be, they ran immediately and
opened the door and the door gave him

1346
01:44:43.359 --> 01:44:48.560
baby. I' m poor,
he' s got the door because the

1347
01:44:48.640 --> 01:44:50.199
one with the camila and I aren' t opening the door for him.

1348
01:44:50.319 --> 01:44:57.319
Anyone to see who knocks on the
door or the little girl like this.

1349
01:44:57.359 --> 01:45:02.279
There she is so pretty. I
think he' s a school buddy,

1350
01:45:03.159 --> 01:45:08.359
but I don' t remember seeing
him, and I was very ugly at

1351
01:45:08.399 --> 01:45:11.199
school. Instead, you' re
always so pretty, but well, don

1352
01:45:11.319 --> 01:45:13.640
' t look at anything. No, I' m not a little partner

1353
01:45:14.359 --> 01:45:15.039
and school, but that' s
it. I learned what I had to

1354
01:45:15.079 --> 01:45:19.720
learn here. Those who have not
learned are others. I' m Francisco

1355
01:45:20.640 --> 01:45:26.520
Santos, but they call me Pachito
and the petro cellars call me Fachito,

1356
01:45:26.680 --> 01:45:30.680
Hi, Pachito, I' m
the baby, Well, they tell me

1357
01:45:30.680 --> 01:45:32.199
the baby oh hello, because if
they' re with those. I'

1358
01:45:32.239 --> 01:45:35.359
m Laura Camila, but they'
re calling me right now. I'

1359
01:45:35.680 --> 01:45:45.960
m Gustavo Francisco, but they call
me quit. Well, Francisco Santos,

1360
01:45:45.239 --> 01:45:49.920
tell me what you' ve come
here for, and I confess to your

1361
01:45:49.920 --> 01:45:54.760
last name. I don' t
know that I bring very good memories that

1362
01:45:54.840 --> 01:45:57.840
we say, because look at Don
Gustavo for my last name. You don

1363
01:45:57.840 --> 01:46:00.520
' t worry me. Worry because
I' m here to cut them off.

1364
01:46:00.000 --> 01:46:03.920
He' s gonna cut it off. All of you wouldn' t

1365
01:46:04.000 --> 01:46:05.800
need it because it' s been
a long time since your lights went out.

1366
01:46:05.800 --> 01:46:09.359
No, but what, what?
But, like that, that can

1367
01:46:09.479 --> 01:46:12.239
' t be. We have paid, as he always says, yes,

1368
01:46:12.560 --> 01:46:15.039
of course, off, but they
have paid badly, very badly. Let

1369
01:46:15.119 --> 01:46:19.000
' s see, Mr Francisco Santos, we can be seen without light.

1370
01:46:19.000 --> 01:46:21.239
No, no, no, no, no, no. Take it easy.

1371
01:46:21.439 --> 01:46:24.359
Take it easy. They' re
not going to be dark. Besides,

1372
01:46:24.399 --> 01:46:33.840
because there' s someone here and
we' ve seen that they always

1373
01:46:34.520 --> 01:46:38.399
stay on quiet, quiet. I' ll open the door. See,

1374
01:46:38.479 --> 01:46:40.800
then, my little girl. Instead
of opening the door, those who should

1375
01:46:40.880 --> 01:46:43.399
be opened were others. Hello,
hello, Bla? Bla? Bla?

1376
01:46:43.560 --> 01:46:45.239
Bla? Good afternoon, uh,
maybe how nice you are. Yeah,

1377
01:46:45.600 --> 01:46:51.039
yeah, I' m on it, hi, Gustavo, Francisco, Laura,

1378
01:46:51.039 --> 01:46:57.359
Camila Nena. Good afternoon, tell
me here with an intimate named Gustavo

1379
01:46:57.359 --> 01:47:01.039
Olívar, visit him. Of course
I' m not late today because I

1380
01:47:01.239 --> 01:47:05.079
' m without the helicopter I had
Pike Plaga. But, well, thank

1381
01:47:05.199 --> 01:47:08.720
you very much, my dear France
Lina for the invitation. Well, who

1382
01:47:08.760 --> 01:47:13.520
is the gentleman here, since I
am Francisco Santos and energy technician. In

1383
01:47:13.560 --> 01:47:17.439
favor, I' m here to
cut off the services, because there'

1384
01:47:17.439 --> 01:47:20.039
s a lot of energy between you
all. Not that much to work with,

1385
01:47:20.319 --> 01:47:24.840
but for clear beings, I'
m going to tell you who'

1386
01:47:24.840 --> 01:47:26.560
s consuming the most here. No. No. No. No. No.

1387
01:47:26.600 --> 01:47:31.239
No. That' s not necessary
either. We can find a solution.

1388
01:47:31.520 --> 01:47:36.800
We can sit down and talk audio
place and agree and do what Laura

1389
01:47:38.479 --> 01:47:42.560
Amila orders, because of course,
for example, look at the baby uses

1390
01:47:42.680 --> 01:47:45.079
the computer a lot. That'
s if it' s a gene and

1391
01:47:45.119 --> 01:47:47.159
he spends it like some, in
power playing all the time. Well,

1392
01:47:47.239 --> 01:47:49.640
well, on my side, what
do I spend the most energy on?

1393
01:47:50.079 --> 01:47:55.760
You don' t understand, because
helping Gustavo Francisco see for clarity. I

1394
01:47:55.840 --> 01:48:00.399
' m going to show you an
aparatico that I like that you guys are

1395
01:48:00.399 --> 01:48:05.800
going to enjoy a lot and that
generates a little bit because to see Franciliano

1396
01:48:05.880 --> 01:48:09.079
grab that wire ay Joe Dare and
caught the light. Of course, my

1397
01:48:09.520 --> 01:48:12.760
God, that' s exactly how
you are with your Ministry of Equality.

1398
01:48:12.880 --> 01:48:15.920
It was taken by the light and
the only thing that has been lost that

1399
01:48:15.960 --> 01:48:18.760
energy and hundreds and billions of pesos. Well, Gustavo, it' s

1400
01:48:18.800 --> 01:48:28.640
your turn He' s ready to
see one. That' s very strong.

1401
01:48:28.680 --> 01:48:30.079
I turn off what' s best. I' m going to burn.

1402
01:48:30.199 --> 01:48:31.039
No, it' s burned out
a long time ago. You know

1403
01:48:31.039 --> 01:48:34.640
that he did the elections years ago. Let' s see, Gustavo Francisco

1404
01:48:34.640 --> 01:48:39.199
my touch, I play quiet,
look dogs touch I' ll read this

1405
01:48:39.359 --> 01:48:45.960
ready, grab the cable is good
to see there I put it with all

1406
01:48:45.960 --> 01:48:48.279
the current. I know a lot
about turning around. Not so obvious,

1407
01:48:48.319 --> 01:48:50.760
I know that you know of turning, because you turned all the time.

1408
01:48:51.239 --> 01:48:55.000
He went back to the constituent,
turned around with this and turned back to

1409
01:48:55.000 --> 01:48:58.439
the other. And now, from
this moment on, I want to tell

1410
01:48:58.479 --> 01:49:00.119
you that the power was cut off. But do not worry, because,

1411
01:49:00.279 --> 01:49:04.479
as always in this country, you
will pay the light and the people will

1412
01:49:04.560 --> 01:49:10.159
pay the consequences. There' ll
be something better to choose from. But

1413
01:49:10.239 --> 01:49:14.119
the choice will be that from the
government they are clear that, although we

1414
01:49:14.119 --> 01:49:16.680
have light, the panoramas go to
dark shelf. Francis Santos is coming to

1415
01:49:16.760 --> 01:49:20.159
teach a lesson. You' ll
be cured. I swear to you,

1416
01:49:20.520 --> 01:49:25.680
my friend, one heals. Discover
it in the next chapter of your tragicomedia.

1417
01:49:26.439 --> 01:49:31.279
The rich also weep for the actors, everywhere, how about to taste

1418
01:49:31.479 --> 01:49:34.560
to say goodbye. I sing very
well. Yes, he sings very well

1419
01:49:34.640 --> 01:49:39.000
to you, because here he will
always have to sing the echo with us

1420
01:49:39.119 --> 01:49:42.119
and with that we say goodbye today
a hug to all the people who accompany

1421
01:49:42.199 --> 01:49:45.640
us in net more news, in
the firefly and in w dot snail with

1422
01:49:45.960 --> 01:49:57.439
fucking echo of r volcón. This
is the song so echo echo pahito says

1423
01:49:57.680 --> 01:50:01.800
no peco echo wants to take out
the echo hollow and all the train in

1424
01:50:02.199 --> 01:50:09.079
dry echo ego that they tell each
fish machito chito, chito, chisto,

1425
01:50:11.159 --> 01:50:16.199
chisto of this height as escele in
the low, low, low job that

1426
01:50:16.279 --> 01:50:23.039
scares him of facing another herd,
cream, natana, that they have no

1427
01:50:23.159 --> 01:50:29.680
experience without deception years, years,
years, how has the shield without steam

1428
01:50:29.800 --> 01:50:35.600
this position, well and to what
it will invite us in the disputes the

1429
01:50:35.680 --> 01:50:45.279
song of the echo palito say no
peco echo wants to get us out of

1430
01:50:45.640 --> 01:50:50.560
the hollow echo and all bring them
in dry echo echo as they call them

1431
01:50:50.600 --> 01:50:57.359
yapon in the office, pacho,
macho, like that it goes to every

1432
01:50:57.399 --> 01:51:02.640
embassy, mashed, low, that
I have not thrown to speak to you

1433
01:51:02.640 --> 01:51:09.319
so much demente, mind, mind
that it has done in his career above

1434
01:51:09.319 --> 01:51:15.359
all? Everything? Everything? Everything? As long as I' m fucking

1435
01:51:15.359 --> 01:51:20.439
you so sincere, zero or they
want to see you in Colombia. I

1436
01:51:20.520 --> 01:51:27.680
calcun luxury is not in the song. Lecco eco pachito. They say no

1437
01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:31.279
peco echo, you want to sancar
no hotel hollow echo and to all the

1438
01:51:31.680 --> 01:51:36.520
trains in dry echo espacho Santos happened
if you have passed in the lució naga

1439
01:51:38.439 --> 01:51:41.079
on Caracol radio and so far it
is special of without Anesthesia. But it

1440
01:51:41.199 --> 01:51:45.920
' s a holiday Monday bridge,
people coming back and I couldn' t

1441
01:51:45.079 --> 01:52:00.720
miss a roll, which always brings
something not rum tail, I woke up

1442
01:52:00.720 --> 01:52:03.439
and I' m going to take
a race. I' m not going

1443
01:52:03.479 --> 01:52:04.720
to suffer for the French and I' m not going to die for years

1444
01:52:04.720 --> 01:52:10.119
or mother- in- law.
Let' s just walk around and it

1445
01:52:10.239 --> 01:52:14.840
' s gonna get good and come
back to him. Abdome me who is

1446
01:52:14.880 --> 01:52:19.000
more dark- haired. It'
s running out and I' m still

1447
01:52:19.000 --> 01:52:23.960
rising. Thus life is better lived
than the plan is hard and the recession

1448
01:52:24.079 --> 01:52:29.640
is safe. But traveling that forgot
that Today I live working for pleasure to

1449
01:52:29.760 --> 01:52:33.359
be giving so the temptations live hy
because it matters the rain the dinners,

1450
01:52:34.039 --> 01:52:41.479
the bitterness that is going on in
Olde today of the Peak and plate in

1451
01:52:41.640 --> 01:52:46.319
the francones and headaches with my family
and friends. Tomorrow we have to go

1452
01:52:46.520 --> 01:52:55.119
to the company centivos for lots and
stop and we party loves coboy to get

1453
01:52:55.199 --> 01:53:00.960
me. Don' t push to
Ollo' s fridge and arrive from Ole

1454
01:53:00.960 --> 01:53:09.520
or Air, releasing the oleol and
driving from le loais, breathing the air,

1455
01:53:11.119 --> 01:53:14.600
touching the air of the song,
giving it to him, arriving from

1456
01:53:14.680 --> 01:53:16.680
Olai ole resting