Presidente cambia lo acordado y quieren hacer las cosas por encima de la ley

0:00 Month the spider of reality, definition, the dutia of Naga. San Gabriel de las casas is Caracol Radio in the Luch Arnaga, the character of the day, very well four or thirteen minutes in the look nagadomel Quise Torres. Today he accompanies us from the city of Medellin, Melqui. Good afternoon and character of the day for you, Gabriel, very good arts to use for listeners. Thank you for being with us. Once again, the President of the Republic, Gustavo Petro Urrego, who surprised the country that night when, around a presidential speech, proposed an additional reform to the pension reform that had already passed through the Senate of the Republic, and he also did so in contravention of an agreement that was publicly known to have publicly claimed as a victory from the Liberal Party to support this reform in the Upper House and was to reduce what is called the contribution threshold, which would go to mandatory pensions, which the Government intended in much of the discussion on three legal minimum wages, current monthly, that is, all Colombians that we quote to pensions up to three salaries would have the obligation to do on that amount and the rest after three salaries. And there remains a surplus to private funds, as the Senate approved on two three legal minimum monthly wages, which was the agreement with the government, and last night the President of the Republic. Didn' t you

1:30 just skip that deal? Not only did it skip what the government defended in much of the discussion on three salaries, but it proposed that the reform should be made on four minimum wages, which implies, by the way, that almost all of the pension contributors in Colombia would have the obligation to be in colpensions, which means in the background, a complete statization of the pension system. This also implies that the republic' s precise, in the opinion of many analysts, is playing two or three bands. To the first try to impose his statist vision of almost all of the Colombian contributors in the public pension system, which, moreover, would imply an overload on the resources of the national budget, because it would not even reach what is paid to pay the current pensions. The second band would be that this proposal does not have hold of the fall of the reform in Congress on account of that entanglement that the President has created and in that case, the President will again attack the Congress of the Republic to say that they do not let it rule. Look at the movie. It' s very simple. It achieves an agreement that had much of the country and content or at least agree. Then he breaks it where this falls in the House, he' s going to blame Congress again and again the congressmen are once again mobsters, they' re paramilitaries again, he' s doing an unworthy congress again. In this case, the House

3:01 of Representatives are again representatives who were financed by the enemies of this Government. That' s going to be the movie where you fall, but I don ' t understand why change at the last minute and with the presidential speech, challenging everyone at once and doing it last night Gabriel and the third band, if the procedure in the House gets entangled, but finally it is approved with one of the two proposals and the Constitutional Court comes to overthrow all or much of the pension reform, for there we would have again the President of the Republic attacking the institutions, because I would say that then the rich, the privileged, the upper classes, etc, do not allow the social advances that the government intends, so that this has a scope that we don' t know yet and as you did Gabriel, because no one understands so far from where this speech came from that puts the proceedings in the Chamber of Representatives of this reform, and it will be that those of the Liberal Party did not know and Chacon did not know anything. I didn' t know anything.

4:06 Best Minister of Labour Glorinese and changed what was agreed on in the pension reform Use what you think of this change. How' s the good afternoon, look, Gabriel, how are you doing? Let' s not talk about water rationing or something like that,' cause he already did. Ponce salt crazy the law pipe or which play no, no, no, no, touch the law brown pipe or not, month no, anything less is said no, but look not really, Gabriel, I prefer not to say, as Melchizedek said, that you have played the ret four before it changed. Not by proposing to raise it to the four minimum wages. The limit for listing in collections is not that I have changed it from the entire President. It is not that what has been agreed between parties has been changed and in it, rather, let us say that the President entered into a process of intellectual political meditation, on the case of the intellectual. You' re looking better. On that side, it is not that the President is changing what was agreed. Well, so the president' s wearing tight hats, and that' s why he makes a little bit of a statement going on for years. Right now I' m going to take away the fat one from President Gabriel and we put ourselves in all this Congress to make it all for Colombians in the best way. Okay. Thank you, Minister Orlando Villar, for our good afternoon. Good afternoon, Gabriel to the listeners of the Lucierna that on Caracol Radio, for we go in that the members of the Liberal Party are now tore their clothes to say that the President cheated them, that the President generated an agreement with them and that later, because breaking it is

5:39 generating discomfort and distrust in the Congress of the Republic. In addition, Gabriel left four Liberals who voted negative for the speech, among them Mauricio Gómez, Juan Pablo Gallo, Lidio García and MiguelÁngel Pinto, to say that they are calm because they vote no to reform. I forget to tell you that thanks to those four were kept in the enclosure, the quarum is not broken. They are playing the same game that the conservatives have done or that they did in the health reform arrive they say we are not going to vote or we are not going to get into this, but we make corum so that if the agenda can be carried out exactly Gabriel. They are able to maintain the PSE quorum so that the parties of position, as a radical change, the Conservatives minus two, who also manage to convince them to stay in the enclosure and manage to pass that choirum and radical change, will also emerge in that strategy of looking for what was undone to postpone the discussion and for the reform finally to sink. The president of Banname Corporation is also surprised and he says with attitude the action of President Gustavo Petro. But then they hope that this situation will be corrected in the House and that the matter can be resolved in the House. It is that if in Chamber the four minimum wages that President Gustavo Petro is asking for as a threshold are approved, then they would have to reach a conciliation between the approving text. And that' s where the goals come from, in the reconciliations, exactly Gabriel, because that ends up being done behind closed doors with a representative of each game and they start there as well and in the past in other occasions to put mycos and to

7:14 change the texts and to change what is concluded in the two halls to have a definitive text, because the industrialists like Bruce Macmaster also get missed, Gabriel, because they saw a breakthrough at those two points. Three minimum wages of a bral even followed from centers of thought and others asking the President and Congress to reconsider lowering it to one percent to a minimum wage. That' s what you' re seeing. They expected the House to move this forward, and Gabriel looked at these figures quickly. If you go up to the four minimum wages, the threshold is ninety- seven percent of the members of the private pension funds, it will move to colpensions. With the threshold of two point three minimum wages is just eighty percent of the affiliates and that' s going to have Gabriel implications for three billion pesos a month that would then enter, about pensions and pension funds. Here more than flattening that had in the Senate, President Gustavo Petro, had voices that were backing that there was a need for a pension reform, that there were things, as agreed by great analysts and we have heard today here in Caracol we will hear one very important, later on from the benefits that this pension reform brought. But just how President Petro always comes out, betraying the good faith of those who voted and carried out this pension reform, which was coming in a good way and what was going to happen in the House a mere procedure, betrayal of Petro, to all the people who were working on this pension reform, always changes what

8:46 was agreed where we were a mess for you, President, and after he comes out to discuss, he goes out to sing the rule of the hole that he did not wake up after loving both the father discussion and decondór together sections served living in paato is our duracruz. After May, get her back in that bowl, she wants to give back Huemun' s command. Criticizing of this you call so colare by command of the samudada, compio confectares, lie, cause you ex thing their measure s or s and open houses winco

10:20 radio account. Good. Thank you, little friend, how I love little opening, Good afternoon, what a joy to greet you to this wonderful super special team that exists in the Lucía Rega, starting with Orlando Villar of small journalists, but of great experience. Of course, you have to say the same about everyone and give a tour to all the characters of the lutian Yes, but intragalito. It is an entrevilla to socialize our socialize our great journalists, imitators, humorists like Alexandra Montoya, one of the best imitators in the world. Father does not give you or greet you with the same thing and she has not consigned you. No. No. No. No. It is given something to the daughter of that year and to Gavita, one of those of Gabriela Romeros, imitator, trend, innovative. Ah Ya, impressively from their voices they have caught a lot, they have calao, calala or good dante caught me. Kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, Yeah. Yeah, he' s talking about reforms and obviously back in Medellin, that' s super penditions. We have backup or friends, we have a luno backup in that studio I remind you to come in by shift. Yeah, yeah, yeah, starting with choroso, a gorosito hug, friend hug, crazy laugh, some abe screams before it exists on the continent of garlito, yes, continent And obviously, for cocolizo, the best troubadour, the king of the trova, he is always the

11:52 winner of the trovas so that they do contests and we know that he will win them now, they should not do it and give him the price already. And obviously, Sanchez' s mojo is missing, awesome little buddy hug. There is. The memories are missing, a father is missing the reinforcement subject, the melkimelgi an impressive embrace to be Ricardo Ricardo as a timer, as Georgein So said, one day of DNA. And that' s the good thing that since you have your children and you don' t have to apply them to the DNA test right now and to the children you have to put them into those reflections, that' s how good your children have and or not. We have to do that test. No, but children have to be named if not that one' s son, unless I' ve touched him. That one goes in there and b of the best plays that ' s ever been World Grill Malaria Day. Imagine all the people who suffer from that disease. For them they are a very urgent attention, urgent attention.

12:52 And now, with the health reform they' re talking about, and also his International Day was going to say, of the thin, not of the delegate Gabriel, the delegate yes, yes, the delegate has an international day if you see for them of those who are delegates at this time, well, and also the day of the writer and the writer for me and in Panama and a cualito phrase, yes, usually the day of the desk writer, Panamanian or in Panama. Yeah,' cause they' re not celebrating Alia. Yes, the important thing is the teachers of Spanish Gabrielito who are now with this Fair Day, the book Gablito. Yes, the Spanish teachers are in their tone, in their technique. At this moment, falling in love with a Spanish teacher is a good phrase enable, because sex anyone.

13:37 But the difference between presentation, introduction and the theoretical framework and conceptual framework, only a teacher of Spanish. Very well, that seems to me to be an important fact. Good theory. Yeah, and good theory. Today World Day to Combat Child Abuse Gablito. That' s why we have this joke, Gablito. I can' t imagine that a tourist was in his car on the field ok and suddenly sad nationality. The tourist let' s say what was Italian Italian. A tourist was going in the car here in the countryside, when suddenly he saw a boy the grass is coming back. That' s what happened We' re going to pass a single quickly what ' s Italian. Yes he is, he being here in Colombia, He has offspring, Yes, develop the idea and he goes to the tourist in the Gaulit field to see if he walks me now yes, to the narrator, but the narrator no more ah good weirdo was in the field kid when he saw a boy struggling, pulling a cow, winging Now for he was not pulling the cow and grappling a lot. The child is, she' s a briega and quits and couldn' t. And suddenly the tourist told him ay, told him the tourist was Italian. No dorito, he' s the one with the joke. I' m gonna know man Jay.

14:52 What a joke the Italian said asks the pre which Papini also the joke of him. He' s asking me what nationality that guy is. Ban Bini said so Vanbini where to take that part was Arabic. If not he had others. Not anymore, but now we' re talking about gay DNA Lisa. Today in diabro it reproduces for everyone, it passes where you take him just came out of nape also looks. Imagine how it' s scrambled. That one would have said it was Arabic and a beo oh was Italian, but he was created in a certain moelon. How old was the character? Thirty- six years, twenty hundred good he then said Papina. What did he say after Babini son Nini ni Niñini Nini ready Now where are you taking that cow? Did he tell you? He told you, where are you taking that cow? And the boy son, because he knows me to have sex with the bull and he told him but that can' t be done by your dad and said no. You don' t touch everything. He ' s signed it up with tourists and tourists like that, no, but that' s why we put him in different classes. What a turn they gave him that joke man and to see how sometimes the stilt transmits the stick.

16:11 Yes, I have a nice story to see that a child calls it Daddy, Daddy, you get itchy mosquitoes, yes, and the dad tells him then turns off the light when suddenly entering the Cirdales and says Daddy, they' re already looking for me with flashlights. See how cute it is. Thank you so much. Yeah, we' re inspired by someone else. Thirty- two. It' s going to be a long day that we have solid, difficult. Yeah, yeah, yeah, drier than doll diaper. Come on you know how good it is four thirty- two, well. Orlando Villar revives the health reform rose from the dead. Yes, Gabriel, and he did so with a meeting that took place in the House of Nariños with some sectors of the PS series and the Minister of Health, Guillermo Alfonso Jaramillos. Not to surprise us, Guillermo Alfonso Jaramillo, notice that in an interview with our two- time partners W Radio, he says that the PSC has an invaluable experience that they have acquired for thirty years and is an asset that, in fact, the health system needs a change of positions.

17:22 Gabriel stron champion band course. No. No, no, it' s just that they' re no longer the perverse PSs who stole the silver that let three hundred thousand Colombians die. This one no longer knows how to change his mind very easily, because Gabriel, as the government does, as is happening right now in the Congress of the Republic, which is already good, because he has passed the pension reform, better a Congress in the new world yordance exactly. At the moment the PS are wonderful, because they have accepted, at least those who met with the national government, a transition for that transformation of PS into health and life managers. If that' s like when you put a revolver on your head, you also accept in a good way a transition, because yes, Gabriel, you have to see a bit of the picture that we talked about here, the intervention of the PSC, the sum of more, the special surveillance in which the three superintendencies have been added, the Superintendency of Health, Industry and Commerce and the Superintendence of Finance and Societies, to begin to monitor the whole system and health companies, including the EPs. For there, at that closed meeting they accepted Gabriel and met in an articulated forty- seven points where they would then have a payment of five percent for the operation and three percent plus for performance indicators, that is, an eight percent that they begin to question already that eight percent. Where is the technical table, where are the costs, where the administration or administration

18:52 costs of the eples were analyzed to begin to make that transitional regime, which would have two years, since Gabriel that, among other points, contained the text that sank in the Congress of the Republic. Nineteen former Health Ministers have already joined in signing a joint statement criticizing the negotiation of the Government and the PSC trade unions. What they say is that a segmented agreement is being made then and the way it has developed. These new conversations have excluded the rest of the health sector where the hospitals were left, where the doctors and nurses were left. And, of course, we' re exaggerating by saying that the CPS have a revolver in their heads that they' re putting on because they' re being intervened. They' re appointed by the three superintendencies to be on top of them to keep an eye on them, that is, they don' t have them. How not to agree with the Government in this to revive a health reform that we repeat how many Health Ministers signed the letter. Nineteen former ministers and former deputy ministers of health who have come together to make that call by threatening or extorting. They can' t be measured here. There are several factors, Gabriel, for this to have occurred.

20:03 First, the most important one is that the government already has control of some of the PS, the new EPs, which it had since last year when it named the chain aldo and now with greater reason, because it appointed an interventioner also the intervention that became protruding. So in that case, of the two that are among the largest in the country who sit there, they are subordinates of the government, they are not independent, they are not autonomous, so they do whatever the government wants and the others, like the case, for example, of compensating, because it has already admitted that it is in serious crisis and has asked the government to intervene voluntarily from the same EPs. But in addition, some PSCs, like the same compensation, are co- owners of other PSCs and therefore have the sword of Damocles to put a romantic term here of the government with the threat, among others, on family compensation boxes, the case of compensation and others that could also have over that action of the government. And also, in the same draft bill that has been leaked, because in this government the projects are not published, filtered and when they realize that they are not as well done, then they withdraw it, as happened with the manual of the health services. But what has been leaked from this draft bill indicates that EPs that do not submit to what they are saying. Besides, it' s written Gabriel to confirm what you call extortion.

21:27 Quite rightly, it is written that if you do not submit to being a manager, then you will have serious consequences. So here we are faced first with undue pressure, but in addition to government control over almost the entire health system and, on the other hand, the sectors that make up health in Colombia are not being consulted is that they are not just the PSCs. In fact, CPCs are the legal person, but those who provide the service are doctors, nurses, administrators, and academies alike. The contributors are also there, that is, the patients whom the Government has not consulted, either in this tassel or in which it fell in the Congress of the Republic.

22:11 Well, four, thirty- eight will continue to suffer. That' s why it' s about health reform. Yes or no. No. Go be me Arrry Barrey in energy, that one already deserved. Practically finished the pattern week, yes, Thursday, yes, Thursday already and Friday was a Saturday and Sunday no longer. It' s over, yes, no, but practically as if there are two hundred and fifty days left to finish, nothing is missing. No, nothing. It' s over, it' s over. Well, it' s been a happy year for all of us. Not there. This crisis, that is, the year is over seriously, No yes, sir, no, but it' s not for the Chinese year now in June or something. But so you start to talk about but the year doesn' t end in June, no, no, but no, but I mean, in June July, but right now you can' t talk about it. No. You said happy year. The year is no longer over, for it is already two thousand and twenty- five, and it is full of many blessings for all. Really, to my taste I feel like running away shocking us or be crazy laughter, I don' t know, two or three men would have happened, no crazy laughter, no man cal, psychological man, brother. No. No,

23:45 no, no, no, but Christmas that was ch Christmas started crying man not April 25 who was calming him down. No, sir, jingle is snail Christmas. You don' t touch it well, no, I don ' t touch it pattern we gave you there we put good the joke, Mr Deliab Secretan day would be mounted with the guachamite. I' d tell you not to touch it This man doesn' t tell you the joke. If pattern I don' t know if you allow me to make the joke represented it is. No, it' s just that I always let him do what he wants. But one way of respecting peers is to respect the joke done. If it' s the original, the usual, no, no, not the original. It' s a saying if we say that ' s what it is, like saying that it was the chicken egg first.

24:32 No one, no one knows not if exactly and surprises will come Gabriel, instead of wondering what it was first, if the hen had the egg up and down. It seemed that the chicken was the idea of the egg to produce more eggs. Cha the most luxury, that is to say this represented exactly, that is you are not agreeing to us with the joke represented patron ay Güey, you just said it. What was it that said that marcea McLuhan, that, sir i maru joke all over the place. I did not geniuses prasgantes year, a lady yes and they were the presences, as is the joke that interpreted represented pattern, because it does not lead to narrator goes to the point. It is not said here that who much a salu or Alexandr the best copycat in the world, had to not. No, nothing and the facts of who doesn' t. No. Nor do I what said no less nor are there parrots nor how many hours that do not? Don' t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? Nothing, nothing, especially when I know from here that we love parrots, I respect the animated one. We do not bring the parrot, for it is a yes the animal. Or it' s not here, Enrique Segoviano, we leave it alone, like this, Enrique Segoviano. Don' t you? Don ' t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? Don ' t you? Don' t you? Don' t you? Don ' t you? Don' t you? It is if you allow us, fools, this is the joke represented new, new and to the point let us listen to that sarcas. One moment the patient was there, the doctor. Then York Tower, then, men, another tell me doctor,

26:07 for my dear Isidro Rio tor reunited the reason for his stomach aches. But frankly, I think this was because of the drink. Ah well, doctor, then I' ll come back when you' re rhodium opening the houses. It is radio anco, well, this Monday, without anaesthetic with network more news to Geovan and sel Es, the director of Red more news, will be with us with all his equipment and, moreover, the technical team in that transmission that we always make through the channel one hundred and seven thousand seven. Of course, on the network channel more news. There we will be without anesthesis, of course, on all social networks, more network and Caracol Radio de la Luciana Germán. Vargas Lleras is our guest for next Monday that, by the way, on their social networks. Now, it has a variety of things, a playlist that is updating or is agreeing with regions of the country at very eight- year and nine- year times. But also some big conversations. So let' s talk to Vargas Lleras in Lucía nac let' s talk to Vargas teeth. Well, good afternoon. Welcome to talk to you. Federico Gutierrez is with him. Hello, what else, how you' re doing, hello to former Vice President Marta Lucía Ramírez

27:37 Hello what' s in your life. I' m glad to be here because I greet former President Uribe how he' s doing, man for God ' s sake and milestones. I want to say no. I want to tell them to talk. You start with whatever topic you want. Well, let' s talk about the expeditions better let' s talk about the constituent or better of the constituent. The fearsome one. I think it' s this petro constituent thing. It is more entangled than the Colombian teams in Libertadores and South America and, as this is called, let' s talk about them then. Yeah. Well, another thing is why I wouldn' t talk about the shortage of drugs. No. No. I meant about labor reform. Look, that' s why I was saying let' s talk about labor reform. I believe that labor reform will not give the government much work and we are closing down and to the next Don' t expand so much in your interventions Understand that this is called Conversamos say goodbye to me that you think about the phenomenon of the child. Well, look at everything that looks like the child phenomenon. What we' ve got is a brat sloppy with the weather. So let' s talk to Vargas up here, where, as we say, with the right wheel that everyone talks less. I who see it there without Anesthesia four forty- seven in the snail firefly rad

29:11 I am the voice I am a good thorn representative to the House for the democratic center and I am the voice of those who. From the political point of view, we believe that the change proposed by the President in the pension reform, which had already been agreed with coalition senators and close to the national government, against the threshold of two three minimum wages, as announced by the Senate this week, and which was modified in the presidential speech to four minimum wages, really reaffirm that the pension reform is nothing more than a kind of tax reform, where the national government wants to camouflage this reform to bring the resources of the pension savings of all Colombian subsidies and which really put at risk first future pensions, especially of Colombian youth, second, which plays with savings that is fundamental and that are guarantees in terms of foreign investments and in national investments. We are talking, for example, about the STEDS in our country.

30:25 And thirdly, it is reaffirmed once again that the reforms of change, but in reverse they end up being nothing more than a deception to all Colombians. So, from our Democratic Center Party, we reaffirm that we are not going to support pension reform in the House of Representatives in the fact that Abreel de las casas is radio canco, well follow the firefly in radio snail and every one you know they are even musicita. More like no boss quo, you know how to stand around how we' re going wrong. Meo well, sir you know always yes I took I did not miss not here we are in play, the one that is fine, that stuffed animals do not do and do not ask for you mon do not me what they think much is not necessary. But how is it that the two hundred thousand pesitos are needed? How they' re gonna need me and I don' t know them. No, no, George, we' re changing material normally.

31:26 But don' t say you don' t know them. Maybe, no, no, no, no, don' t tell him Hey, sir, I hear you. Or we missed seeing the windfall I didn' t start to happen, but it' s not like I' m concentrating on Palestinian millionaires today. Oh, then, monkey, let' s do one thing, love, what a thing to come here and see the game. Here he remembers the TV that I told him I was going to buy that big dotote that if yes, yes, it' s like a cinema room yes, yes, but no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I don' t call the game a camon no. No, no, not to suffer. No. I suffer calmly there, in my television, in my studio and already well, here, if I can not commit much to the result, beautiful, because as it is abroad with the Chileans and there is not much, it does not have contacts abroad, Chile that yes, but it is Chile, peraltentico, yes, Chile, Chile is more contact of it, of course, yes, coming down from Atacama i e, no, peaceful, everything works. I don' t know where Chile is, quiet, no, I don' t give them in geography class and not that net you know if I have a contact over there, but they' re already, they' re blocking my turn.

32:29 Nice, then minimum to a tie. Monkey still moone paney, well and you need to win, but we need to add point. Sir, yes, good boy doesn' t count on him You know what happened. There are nantes who shone, who caught lis that alias Carol Gi as that alia ah well was even alias not to Carol Gy man, yes, alias Carol Gi, imagine this, the character was extremely dangerous and belonged to the golf clan, but they knew as well as alias Carol Gy. But Arias Carlolgi was a man, if you imagine, he wasn' t even an expensive man to Mary. To this yes, it was pure concert. But for the link, for good this one is not going to put to cry of two hundred glasses and one of the two hundred months locked up. I told myself not to make that alias of Carol Gy, because now they' re going to make him sing the weird way out of the bug. The picota ah come to fine you today to tamos, I didn' t say alias Melchizedek has information. He' s not the first one he doesn' t call himself alias Melchizedek that he' s called melquisede. It' s not an alias. No, he' s not an alias and he hears and I say no to him and someone. No. But as this bastard quis says alias Carolina because he ends up looking. You had Carolina go but Melchizedek, whose alias carol Gy is, because it is important, because they said that he was also at a concert to commit a crime, but the other went to Ritty too ay em evert Son Pérez Gómez is called this man

34:05 the truth. When you see the picture, you don' t understand why they put carol Gy alias on it. But in the world of Lampa are very frequent the appellations, the aliases of characters of political life and especially of the Farandula Evertson. In addition, a very dangerous man because he already had notes for several homicides, a member of the Gulf clan. The authorities say three notes, per concert to link precisely, eleven for homicide, two for theft, drug trafficking, illegal carrying of arms, domestic violence, etcetera. A member of this group who pretends to call himself self- defense gaitanists of Colombia, but in reality is a criminal drug trafficking group. The Gulf clan fell this one, as the police say, alias carol Gi, but it is not the first to have such unique aliases. And especially you asked Gabriel why if any man would name you women or artists, there is an Alia Shakira who was captured in Barranquilla, who were members of the stubble. Yes, his name is Carlos Alberto Pertús. There was another Alia Shakira in Santa Marta, who escaped from prison two years ago. It was called from the lookout or it' s called from the lookout Villa. So is Alia Shakira.

35:16 Another alias Juanes al olf Erazo Rosero, operated between the departments of Nariño, the Eje Cafetero and the Valle del Cauca. So it' s not the first left. That' s one they captured, named Alias Oscar monsalve that man if he was bad, too much. It was too much, that stick was too much. The judge called it, it was that it already puts an ally. No. No, the judge didn' t call him and he didn' t sing. He didn' t sing the uoqui pa me güey, well, but Father Cop the Quise I wasn' t a boss, I didn' t fan Millionaire. They also dropped it back at the game. No. No, no, no, no, have that chao. Good- bye, no, old crazy walk, dramas, tarr Lord, don' t make us cry upstairs, tear that down without screaming. Thank God. If not to vary a little employer that, anyway, with the visit of Milquise because the cabins are more full. Of course I have everyone a thousand five more, yes, more stuffing. This would say no, not of all the respect for my colleagues who are fond of them and I love them very much and carry them in my heart always to woe no. But well, then that declaration of love brought humorous not pattern brought love. It' s not like I' m a gangster. What is true is that, since tonight the Medellin ch plays and we had talked, yes, then not the permission I think there is no need the same

36:52 because, as we already said, it is not that if you want to ask permission seriously poses yes, yes, yes, yes, ah, well, boss, then to see if this gives me permission, no more give it to see the star hahahahaha. Well, let' s see if there ' s a guy coming to a drugstore, uh- huh, that' s how good. You have some medicine for indecision, if you prefer, in pills, syrup or injections, because I don' t know the three hahahahaja goodbye. Hello, Cambri, Hi, Baby, how are you worried? No, I don' t like that voice tone of yours worried. No, I don' t like seeing a worried kid. What happened to you? There are boys who make girls, my boys who make heavy jokes.

37:38 Yeah, and they put things in the suitcase that are from the others aha and when you' re going out the pad says good engan we warned that something was lost and it' s already dawned to my male. Oh, not those jokes. I don' t like heavy jokes. A sack that he wasn' t mine a sack that wasn' t yours. I ' ve never fucked the one that mom always made me. We don' t get it. That' s called stealing. Yeah, I know what you know about me. When she took off one day the mom told me she saw me getting something. I was four years old. Now I' m nantis ok ready and he runs a supermarket and I fucked myself inside the pockets are the gums and the mom when we got to the house I pulled it out. My son you guys took that out of the supermarket before, because tomorrow we' re going to take it and I went through the shame of passing the sayings from there luca in life. Hey not something, but like the mom told you when she scolded you ue, you know what a.

38:45 No, no, no, but he said careful, you know what you just did. That' s called stealing no, ma' am and tomorrow not me, no, Mom, please deliver them not you, ma ' am you go and train it yourself. If you say, please, excuse me and cut it. I can' t be able to and I hid behind the mom' s legs. He said okay, I' m gonna help you this time and I and she handed them over and said I ' m not gonna do it again and I hid behind the mom' s legs. Okay and then and then today I get a sack in my clear suitcase and I guess it' s not the heavy jokes they do. But then I' m going to ask for one thing that the other day everyone was quiet and nobody said anything. Yeah, I had us hit little jet latinas right there in my office. Yeah, there' s only one ah if you remember I' m collecting the cute album. And so there is always a caramel to show the caramel the monkey, the foil, as you want to say, you have to open it, of course, because that one doesn' t come out alone. But she' s not yours, baby, because she doesn' t go out alone, because I know she doesn' t go out alone. Yeah, but that' s called stealing how I didn' t steal it ready. Let' s assume that you opened it, you took out the monkey, the caramel, the foil, yes, but you did leave it there. It' s up there with

40:15 the ants. Then it' s time to eat it, which you' re making up a story. Not that that was rich and I liked the Latin cocktail, but not in the morning I bring you the shopping cars. I' ll just talk to your mom. Don' t do it I ' m not okay with you anymore. I' ll bring you three of that perfect. Yeah, yeah, all minutes or so I stand the naga. Gabriel of the houses is a radio snail I realize. Maybe that' s here. Yes, yes, little friends, Gabrielito begins to fall the twilight until now of the afternoon of Gabelito, but I still see clarito, all twilight, clarito, everything talked. Well, yeah, and you' re losing, yeah, okay, Paulito, don' t forget. Please, we' ll be at the book fair at 10: 00 a m on Sunday. What' s his book called. It' s just humor.

41:13 It' s humor, but it' s sports jokes. Sports jokes bought him rule scrub hair, clovers in the publishing house Ibañez. And we ' ll be there from 10: 00 in the morning, there at the editorial stand. All right, yes, Pablito, they give us a reflection at this hour of the afternoon, when theirs are more jokes. Or a reflection. Five, twenty- five carlitos. Yes, that red is the gateway to other drugs, other tougher additions, Gabriel, such as empanadas and buñueles. That' s where expenses or all the reason comes from. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that' s where no one gets funny last names at this hour like a lion, a horse, a lion? Cable a horse, lion, horse, good, but from a horse yes, I already read a horse right now, because it has the ulele yes in a composer Italy. You' re not an Italian horse. One day about one thousand eight hundred and fifty- seven was born. Nicolás a colluerro imagine, he seemed mechanical, but he is not a doctor, a Spanish doctor.

42:12 And this one day was born like this one thousand nine hundred and twenty. Julian Ries Belgian Cardinal, and this one does seem curious to me. I wish, I wish, I could change his last name. Adrián Riera, Spanish footballer. Riera now, I wish, Riera with my gablito jokes, the hard, but well we have this one you can be a ball. This is a joke, that' s a tail. Imagine that a guy gets written via Whatsapp, they write Hello Messi and he writes who you are Every time I see you you see and you seem very mature and very cute.

42:52 I' d like to write to you, but the truth is, when I see you in the store, I keep thinking about calling you what a shame, but I' m married. Oh, excuse me. However, I had already sent you my picture erase the type of migron but the gua an old Gabriel, a very pretty woman like a very pretty woman as it is yes, yes, yes, a very nice woman. And the type of the son doesn' t, whenever you want you mark me when you say you' re married, yes, of course, José Luis married, López haja ae Goodbye. Well, sports on Caracol Radio five twenty- nine at the Luciernaga. Don Sebastián Vargas, sir, how I' m doing with Gabriel Feliz. Lately I feel some nervousness around here not normal.

43:52 Yeah, millionaire seven of the night in Coquimbo versus Palestinian. It' s the third date. He' s got only one millionaire point. He doesn ' t have the Chilean team and yesterday he already won in the Bolivar peace to Flamengo. Then there you have nine points. The Poliano team, four Brazilians we' re seeing there, has to win. You realize the tonito, for a while to win. Juan Sebastián says if he' s like a castic. Now we go to a minor tournament to see is the South American Cup, because it' s nerves exactly. I think there he' s shaking a little more. The buttock' s good to see you' re leaving, but that' s Gorria. Mari Carta wrote and told me I' m nervous, but that' s what you' re shaking about.

44:38 I' m nervous because that has a pattern. I didn' t get permission to leave early and I told him, but I just shouldn' t give him leave at nine o' clock at night. You' re against us being caught, but those are the two games today. A team in Copa Libertador is another team in Copa Suramericana, in Colombians. In international tournaments. Today he won Manchester City four by zero to Brighton. He' s second in the table of positions, but he has one game less than the Arsenal set, so that' s going to be practically between the two, because Liverpool had already lost today. Well, sir, something else to stand out from the sport. Yes, sir, a rather particular subject.

45:23 In Germany what happened. They found a World War II bomb near the Minds Stadium of one thousand nine hundred forty or forty. It' s estimated to be the United States bomb. Tomorrow at five in the morning, Colombian hours are going to deactivate it because there is a match on Sunday to four thousand and five hundred people evicted. Something like that. It happened on a football field in Medellín, where they play crazy cocoli zorriza. There' s the mullion, a lot of firecracker last night is firecrackers in percent of a night they blew up. Yeah, yeah, I' m exploding that they were spread out. There' s no reason for Lucia to swim. Gabriel de las Casas is Caracol radio at five, thirty- three news Orlando Villar news Gabriel in Colombia buys efficient. The national agency that regulates and has the entire public procurement system in the country. Mr Cristóbal Padilla Tejada Mira comes in to direct it. I have the resolution Decree five twenty- one signed by the Planning Director, Alexander López, and appoints this recognized political leader of President Gustavo Petro in the Atlantic. Until last year, Gabriel was on the board of directors of the Venezuelan company Colombia Monomeros. He was precisely the delegate of President

46:53 Petro. There on the board of directors he was also linked with the President in the Secretariat of Social Integration. When the President, today President, was mayor of the city. In the 18th century he was on the Senate list by one of the coalition parties with the historic Pact and at this time he is director of the Institute. He was director of the Caribbean Institute of Higher Political and Social Studies, Business Administrator, specialist in development projects and in this way, he will manage one of the most important public procurement platforms in Colombia. Gabriel Good. At five, thirty- four, let' s review radio movements in Colombia. Hey, Ball, hey, hey. This is Melkin Mix breaking the boats, the Kip Mix Mix two zero and here I am in Tropicana, La, the tropical the most we hear the red tanquita follow me asking for her complacency, her tropi songs to cropi Whatsapp. Tropicana, La, la, la tropican la, the one I like to listen to merej with Melkey Micks the Bruja tanta hobra. We changed the misramo.

48:16 Let' s go the day to see what' s here to see I ' m Diana Calderón We' re on Saint Fert Radio. Chamos i Thran the Markets Bed thread market. Jimmy Tierres loves it. A greeting for the wheel beams that drive his fulbuceto well gagged, obana in his yellowish by the sector of the perce. The taboo wasn' t going to follow who wrote this script, too. Please, I don' t go any better this far. We also changed the radio, because just move this a little bit to see what not everyone here. I' m old Easter. We heard the forty rea, Mommy Perrea, the babes with the babes, give me your flow fric that most I don' t know about you is going with someone, but I' m already cold. It' s bad paschal and this one, because it' s Daddy that the others laughing with me, of course it' s going to be sea I follow him with this bonas excuse me, but no more. We' re already cold. Let' s stay here, don' t move, because at five, thirty- six men, we have to talk about an advance and it has to do with a cousin of veronica sewing. The first veronic danna how it goes good afternoon, but you didn' t believe me that party vero Bruja aha doesn ' t look first of all, I clarify that it should be my cousin who comes out to put each child' s face to expensive with his ticket and not every child pays, as they say. Over there, but aha, look, Father Ballas, what' s the story. I think my cousin, Mario Fernández Acosar, the deputy of the Azucre Assembly, graduated as

49:50 a lawyer six years before having his bachelor' s degree tepa that he was always a super total. It was the truth, really. Bo there you like to advance, yes matile who liked to have lunch first and breakfast afterwards. And as if that were not enough, first he took out the card and then chocolate of tantidad to see everything is me a child, I have to call you for complaint well, well he would want things that only happen in Colombia. First he' s a lawyer and then he' s a bachelor. As is history. The story is that in the two thousand eight he graduated as a lawyer Mario Fernández Alcocer, cousin of Mrs Verónica Alcocer and husband of a well- known congresswoman of the Department of Caesar, the best ex- parliamentary parliamentarian is no longer in Congress. He presented a high school diploma from a lyceum called pan- American chisel ego, as the school said there is no trace that he has studied and graduated. The prosecution started an investigation and then the defense, with the support of the prosecution, tried to say that the trial was time- barred, that the terms had been broken for more than four years. Following the opening of the investigation, because the Court of Zince Alejo not only rejected the intention of the prosecution and the defence, but also said that both the prosecutor and the Ombudsman acted with disloyalty, as they were aware of the omission of the was on the petition they had

51:22 made. The right thing to do was to warn him to pronounce himself in appropriate terms, given what the Criminal Code orders, and also to order the continuation of the criminal investigation against Mario Fernández al Coser for this alleged fraud, because he would then have presented, according to the investigation, a false diploma to be a lawyer. The Court also asked for disciplinary action to be taken against those who were intended to have the proceedings closed without further delay and, as the same premium says here on the programme, he was a genius. It wasn' t Bachiller. I don' t need to be a baccalaureate to be a lawyer. And good things that happen in Colombia, five, thirty- nine in the Firefight. This also counts well. Little friend, yes, Cabrielito' s birthday. I am Alejandra Borrero, our Colombian actress and businesswoman for her, a hug, a cordial greeting, a gabrito of reflection, also gallito to see and I remember him with crazy laughter. I was with a sick man these days, crazy laughter, all two days, the days I feared two two who say here that a listener says you know you' re getting old. When the laughter ends in all yes, now they say mother interegent, that is to say there, then, this years ago, since it gets old, it enables a curious snitch and, as

52:52 I am, a spirometry, precisely because it was in the same crazy laughter. Of course, yes, playing a laugh from there happened to him. He started one is to everyone, at the end of the laugh, a curious surname, José Ramón Galloso Galloso, a Spanish champion of hammer throw. I think my dad was a great pitcher, or what because you don' t do it just and hammer him all the time and Jiromeon Kimura was born a day like today a Japanese super centennial. He' s the oldest human. The requesting world has to have no. If I am the c or the jacal what fucks the holmino gift be the calmest. Now, yes, Gaulito, we have the bad and the good. He' s in the Luciana now there' s radio snail, now in the lucernaga the bad and the good. Again don' t confuse them, buddy, you confuse them Sometimes, sometimes it comes out, Sometimes they' re not melted and the two bad hahahahahajan of grandparents come out. Yeah, well, look, what cattle you' ve brought good both of them from, what in canast you take out the eggs to see if a friend tells the other one hears brother.

54:04 How do you think I once told someone. I' m never gonna forget you, but I don' t remember here. Well, there' s the maloga. B' s fine, he' s got his yes, yes, he' s the good little gablito. I do now. As it is said in several languages I can not go to see then in English garlito, yes i kan no gole wonts go, I do not chango, I can not live li in Swedish han kan inte ga ok hanka intega inga. In French Juni p posable pole JUnit jennypy jip in Italian garlito, I do not pose to walk, because they are Darrer and in Colombian Caroli how they say no, I can go no yes. Until what hours they ' re going to be that I' ll drop the Ra snail firefly.

55:01 I' m the voice. I am Alfredo Mondragón, congressman of the Historical Pact and I am the voice of those who support President Petro' s proposal to the House of Representatives so that the threshold of contribution in the contributory pillar can be extended, because that would benefit a good part of the lower middle class and laborious sectors that they would like to have a support is from a public fund to guarantee their pension. So there was a very interesting debate. Of course, the agreements in the Senate were very important and I applaud those congressmen who sought spaces for consultation and achieved those adjusted majorities, but majorities for them to pass. I believe that now is a time for the House of Representatives to make the deep reflection what is wrong with the country, and that is why I believe President Petro' s proposal to extend the threshold to four minimum wages. It is a proposal that serves the lower middle classes, the working class and the working class in attention. Attention, attention because the work, if there is good work, if there is information of service, here, in the Juliana Rodríguez Luciernaga, where we have job opportunities, Gabriel, work, yes there is. Because if you are a baccalaureate, technician or technologist, pay a lot of attention, because from Andy and we get offers, from the Atlantic, that has ten vacancies to work as an electronic technician, the Guajira has twenty- three vacancies for baccalaureate as a mountainecarguist, operator

56:34 of machines and preventist, and the Valley has sixty- four vacancies to work as a meat assistant regent of pharmacy and mountainecarguist. If you are interested in any of these vacancies, go to a point more anti- com coc employment There you should go to the vacancy option, where you can find all the details. What Abriel of the houses that is face radio is in the afternoon the homeland, the land of jaca and already you win the questions. I work us shoes now until I come to make her ask you. Hahaja how hello, Don Gravielito, how you meet a cordial greeting to your mercea our listeners. People are looking at me badly. But Ornela, why didn' t you like the joke if it was good, some laughs, you left me thinking. I say you can know with the pick these with things like that, thank you and apologize. They' re gonna be here a long time because I have messages. Yes, ma' am, which one of you. Listen, Don Gravielito, a greeting from sending a special greeting of condolence to our colleague and friend, Carlitos Obregón. His mom passed away.

57:59 He worked in front of Don Carlito Sobreno and his mother died in the city of Neiva. Tomorrow they will do the funerals at three o' clock in the afternoon is called Doña Nelli González in the Cathedral of Neiva. It will be so that a hug to Carlos, his brothers Son and Adriana Socorro, Javier Guillermo, Ricardo Mauricio and Carlos and his father, Don Filomeno Obregón. A hug for all of them. So, Mrs and Don Orlandito, ducky billiards, how' s it going with a salute to your Mercedes. Listen to why the health system is news but of the teachers, why, because Patojita begins to denounce irregularities in from Fecode, in what will be the new health system for the teachers and for more than eight hundred thousand beneficiaries of this system throughout the country, because look when it is already up to the teachers and when it is up to them the system, because there they begin to send their questions, in this case, to the Ministry of Education and to the President himself, Gustavo Petro Fecode is talking about lack of transparency that there is in the selection of health operators. The prospective fied, which is in charge or has been in charge of selecting health care providers, made a selection, says Fecode, irregular of the operators who at the time had also been

59:29 questioned by President Gustavo Petro himself, for alleged corrupt practices. What I did fecode is that a transparent bidding process has not been carried out and that they were not allowed to participate as observers of the process. Now. It was President Gustavo Petro himself who suspended the billionaire tender, where the ten health workers of the Magisterium were chosen year after year so that they could participate in that health model. They say there' s an audit firm I said consultants that ' s behind some irregularities. They say for irregular practices that have been presented and the way, the lack of clarity in how contractors are being selected.

1:00:13 This new model of health and duckling would be passed to Gabriel with a significant increase in the budget. Thirteen billion pesos cost the previous model and this model would now cost eight eighteen. Gabriel, imagine the amount of silver in which it increases. Oh, what a nice reform. And at the time it was said precisely that the process was slowed down because there were operators, because there were irregularities and because there had to be transparency in that procurement. It is also noted that Gabriel, despite being responsible for managing the resources, should not assume that role as a health operator, i e now the predictive fied as a health operator. They know health, so exactly Gabriel. There are also conflicts of interest there and they are asking the President and the Ministry of Education to review this situation in detail. The teachers were sweet duckling. Yes, gentlemen, they throw away transparency and cost five million pesos more. How do you think we' re cracks? Oibito before asking me what I will be with invitation this Sunday to go to Simón Bolívar Park. The only way to build a healthy cities, because to improve the quality of life of people is to exercise. And this Sunday, from nine o' clock in the morning to two o' clock in the afternoon, they' re going to meet you there. There' s gonna be how they say it. Rumba to therapy, visit aerobic walks, all in order to create healthy communities.

1:01:43 Today our great Mario Fernando, Alcalá, Marito, Alcalá is celebrating years, so we parallel the mad university today Maya is celebrating years, or we want to greet him to continue making grandfather and much more river Grande Mar a hug or his merce. We had it the son of one of the great master controls, who had snail and we always remembered it, because precisely on that flag, in that presentation that had six am of snail with jamida mat control. Master Mario Alcalá, the father of our radio Mari Falia, because I saw Alcalá is so part of this radio community. Well, then, a hug to Marito, but your encini. Besides, I' m a good program and even alcaplay tell you here the movie betting system is of the tails, here the good tradition. A person doesn' t tell him or badly wantcito who makes dick, because here visiting these boys to their hanging spirits we were either that or they' re going to get worse with that coach that came to you interesting, the coach that he gets, he dies a full optimism expression. The mos on twitter, sele noche saludes en twitter. It

1:03:16 is others already why he was protested from the Federation of Coffee Growers to whom, because duckie first time, at least since when he was elected General Manager of the Federation of Coffee Growers almost a year ago. It was on April 27 of the year two thousand and twenty- three that Germán went to Mon Jaramillo. He was elected as manager of this, which is the most important guild we have in Colombia and which concentrates the attention of the symbolic emblem product before the world, which is coffee. First time there is already a very strong position of the coffee growers, not of the Manager in this case, but of the chiefs of the Manager, who are the fifteen delegates of the same number of the largest coffee producers in the departments headed by Javier Bórquez, who is the chairman of the Steering Committee, and the other directors of Tolima, Wiil, Antioquia, Caldas, Cauca, Valle del Cauca, Santander are fifteen in total. Today they issued a public communication saying that they do not share the statements made by the Minister of Agriculture, Jennifer Mojica, about the financial situation of the Federation of National Coffee Growers. The Minister said that there is a crisis in the Federation and that this is since previous years, that it is a federation that comes with very complex economic situations from past governments and that in order for the Federation to continue doing its role, it has to change, It has to be restructured, that the parafiscality funds of coffee,

1:04:49 which are funds provided by coffee- producing families, are invested directly in coffee - growing and not in an expensive bureaucracy. It was what the Minister said, because the coffee directors call her because they say that she is clearly putting at risk the most precious coffee public good, which is the purchase guarantee that she should consider, that her words have implication in front of the coffee market, bringing probably serious consequences for the peasants. They recognize that this is a time of coffee- growing with market conditions that are not the same as the coffee pact until the late 1980s, but that they do not share the idea of creating illusions for coffee growers because there are no real conditions if an agreement with the world market is possible in the long term, a position that these coffee leaders have on several points. Because the Minister, who is curiously one of the spokeswomen of the Government in the National Coffee Growers Committee, together with the Minister of Finance, the Director of Planning and also the Minister of Commerce, because in this case the Minister speaks of a crisis of the federation that, according to them, does not exist. And what they propose is that there are conditions that, according to the Minister, are not forgiveness, according to them, are not real. The Minister proposes a scenario that does not correspond to what is really happening with the Colombian coffee market. This position, I insist, is novel, because it is the first time in a year that these coffee growers already show him no teeth, not to say in strong

1:06:24 terms, but they do show him a position of autonomy and independence of the government, because finally, the Federation is handled with the silver of the coffee growers themselves, not of the national government. And it' s not the first time a president like Gustavo Petro has stood up to the guilds. Well, yeah, well, duckie, that person' s doing well. No more questions to Don Grangelito, Hey Minister, Luis Fernando Velasco, how are you doing? Good afternoon, Hi Gabriel, how are you, man? What do we do with officials who don' t see laws or respect agreed contracts? Sir, there' s a lot going on in the country. Then they sue us and we lose good about the risk management official so pregnant, she was fired and now she had to be reintegrated. I think that happens because we just have some officials who are very creative, have a lot of genius and that' s why they do what they do. Or how about the passport contract ay not the granting of a muey, in good adventures, a greeting for those very creative officials and that, hopefully, they were the ones who paid the millionaire demands that we received. Leg up Gabriel, but you don' t have to wait for the lawsuit. But I think that from all sectors, from here it melquices and the director of risk management was also told that he cannot take out a pregnant person. He falls off his weight. He falls from his weight, Gabriel, and among others, we publicly ask him whether he knew or not that the lady had reported her pregnancy. What this legal order is saying is that yes, that he knew.

1:07:49 And it is absurd that a High State official is not clear, because this exists many years ago Gabriel in Colombia, that a woman in a state pregnancy who has formally reported it, because she must have protection precisely because of that same condition. And it is not credible that the Director alludes to another circumstance other than the knowledge he had in this particular case, he has to bear the consequences if he has evidence that the lady was committing irregularities or other inappropriate conduct, for he brings them to justice, but he cannot make an administrative decision for a rematch of facts that do not correspond to him to qualify, but to justice. These are the passports, bids at the scene.

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1:10:27 the snail firefly ra. I am the voice I am Alexandra Vázquez, representative to the House of the Historical Pact and on the new proposal for pension reform made by President Petro. I am the voice of those who believe that with a higher threshold it would reduce the current deficit in pension payments, as the cash that falls on the nation' s overall budget is released. In the short term, there are more resources and frees up the budget pressures. But, however, to relate to what was contemplated by the Liberal Party, the priority here is reform and we would have to go on to evaluate the proposal of that party so that the reform can make a law of the Fifth Republic that you open from the houses is cantic radio and teaches fireflies on Caracol Radio.

1:11:29 It' s not usual for us to have interviews here in La Luciana, except when we do without anesthesia or a big celebrity goes through here, for studies and between a moment, but also repeat an interview. This interview is very interesting and happened this morning in six am. Today, with Gustavo Gómez, Mauricio Olivera, the former president of Colpensions, spoke and made a great and very good analysis of what is the pension reform of those who benefit. What' s going to happen in the taxpayer weeks, what if I ' m already weeks old, I' m getting older and I' m getting older and it' s worth hearing from you. In addition, he also spoke about the changes announced last night in his address by President Gustavo Petro. We connect with what happened this morning in six am with Gustavo Gómez today and Mauricio Olivera, former President of Colvenciones, Dr Olivera. Good morning and thank you for being on Caracol Radio. I liked good morning, a greeting to the merchant at work, a greeting to the audiente. What is the effect for Colombians on foot of the difference between two three to four minimum wages in this special point of pension reform Several points. The first is, therefore, now every Colombian who earns up to four minimum wages is going to contribute in containments. That' s the first thing. It used to be up to two three. If he earned three salaries, two three were listed in conventions and zero seven in a private fund. Now at three and even four he' s going to quote them in containments. That' s the first thing. Then there' s going to be more, a larger cotuation for coltensions. Secondly, this means that he will be entering a container ship.

1:13:00 But as in Gabriel de las Casas, it' s Anco Radio. It ' s still Lucia, naga on Caracol Radio. It' s not usual for us to have interviews here in La Luciana, except when we do without anesthesia. Or a big celebrity goes through here, through the studios and comes in for a moment, but also repeat an interview. This interview is very interesting and happened this morning in six am. Today, with Gustavo Gómez, Mauricio Olivera, the former president of Colpensions, spoke and made a great and very good analysis of what is the pension reform of those who benefit. What ' s going to happen to the taxpayer weeks? What if I' m already a week old, I' m getting older and I' m getting older and it' s worth it for you to listen to. In addition, he also spoke about the changes announced last night in his address by President Gustavo Petro. We connect with what happened this morning in six am with Gustavo Gómez today and Mauricio Olivera, the former President of Collpensions, Dr Olivera.

1:13:59 Good morning and thank you for being on Caracol Radio. He didn' t like good morning, a salutation to the work table, a saviour of the audiente. What is the effect for the Colombian on foot of the difference between two three to four minimum wages in this special point of the pension reform. Several points. The first is because now every Colombian who earns up to four minimum wages is going to contribute in containments. That' s the first thing. It used to be up to two three. If he earned three salaries, two three would be listed in conventions and zero seven in a private fund. Now all three and even four are going to be listed in conventions. That' s the first thing. Then there' s gonna be more, a bigger talk for coltensions. Secondly, this means that resources of colpsions will enter the sea. But as in colpensions, the pension is settled not based on non- liquidation based on what is saved. It is settled based on the average wage of the last ten years and what people save on corvension is not enough to pay this apprehension, that is, there is a subsidy.

1:15:00 What happens is that when people had pensioned him, there' s going to be a bigger debt. Today there will be more resources for containment, but in the future there will be a larger debt. Today there will be more subsidies, because subsidies will be paid not on the two three, but on the four, and the tension today will be a little higher, but for our children and our grandchildren there will be a greater debt and it may not be sustainable in the future. So, let' s say here there are some complex issues, especially intergenerational ones, that can affect the system, because, because we like to know that a reform is not made every four years in vain formats, it' s going to be every thirty. So, in the future we can have a much bigger debt, Dr Olivera. We believe that the issue of the sustainability of the system is essential. In fact, already the minister Gloria Ramín, it had been said that another reform would potentially have to be reviewed in about fifteen years. You speak now of thirty years. To be looking at her people close to the government who even celebrated the Senate approval, they are already saying with four minimum nominal wages is not sustainable over time. You have the calculations that that sustainability would be possible, or the four wages do not give you for the future there to be, because it might or may not be stocked. He' s entering the field of populism. Of course, as I said before, because every weight in collections today is a future debt generates a future debt, because Toca is going to prove a subsidy in the future. And in that sense, because the higher the threshold, the less sustainable the system is. We must strike a balance between containment and private funds. I think that discussion of the threshold is important. I think we need to get out of ideas that have been discussed in the reform, for example, that how it is not sustainable is closed

1:16:34 or withered with pensions. I think that' s a mistake. There is an aging demographic trend and the state has to be there accompanying older adults, because it is a global trend. Moreover, not only the market, they are not the two funds, but that balance of participation between coups and private forums is very important. The higher the salary, the more difficult the sustainability, especially in the future, for our children and for our grandchildren. And that should be taken into account by the President, by the Government, because it can leave us a very good legacy or it can leave us a very bad legacy, depending on where it stands. There is another additional point that with four minimum wages, almost the funds disappear, because very few people earn above the four minimum wages and, as it is going to be, the funds will be complementary. It' s just the privates who are almost going to disappear. At this moment, more than ninety percent of Colombian workers earn four or less, and that is why I think we have to seek the balance between market and state doctor release that point, I am going to ask you just that if with the four saeros we measured the private funds disappeared.

1:17:35 If that is the case and assuming that in conciliation they can prove to you more than three, let' s say three comma five or something like that, then it would no longer be a regime that complements itself, but basically a regime, a completely public regime, yes, sir, exactly almost because the majority of working earns less than four rooms or four minimum wages or less. In that sense, because I insist that I must seek that balance between the State and the market. In fact, when you see the history of individual capitalization, you need the creation of private funds or the individual gold regime, rather in the world, almost in most countries. In most countries there has always been for two centuries the distribution regime, the regime of average prism, When they began to see if the demographic pressures that generate financial pressures by the population embezzlement is, that private funds were created as a complement to the funds of distribution to the regime of medium premium, the basques in Colombia created in the ninety- three, a very strange system where we put them to compete then to move to pillars is okay, but it is necessary to bear in mind that the State cannot with everything, because, as we were talking, right now, it affects sustainability. Many subsidies must be paid and, in that sense, it is necessary to seek that balance. I believe that with four minimum wages that balance is broken. In fact, a lot of people wanted less than two three. Many experts say in that sense if it is very difficult, then reach four. I don' t know if you have the data. I said this morning that more than eighty percent of Colombia, but I would like to confirm that percentage of people in Colombia wins,

1:19:09 let' s say that would cover that limit of the four minimum wages. I don' t have the exact data, but it' s more than ninety percent of the workers, more than ninety percent of the workers. Therefore the participation of the state of forgiveness of private funds, since it is reduced to the minimum. Only very high wages would be in private funds. Dr Olivera yesterday, when several criticisms were being read about what was going on. Many said this was what happened in Argentina. They left you with no capital to the private funds to break them. They look something like what is happening in Colombia with what happened in Argentina. And I think Congress and even the government came to a very important decision to take care of those savings. Many people said this could be Argentina, because the government can take the resources that are paid for pensions and use it in other things, this or any other government, as happened in Argentina, and those resources are pensions. That is why the Savings Fund was created. It' s a savings fund that' s going to save the colpension resources. At first, I say that it is the same pension as I kept it but agreed on by the Government and this President or anyone else can in any of the orders spend that money, in other things, on current expenditure. That is why I say a very good decision was made, because he was given the one who will manage these resources or who will keep these savings. Rather, it is no longer the executive power where the President can say let us spend this money. It' s going to be the Bank of the Republic. The Bank of the Republic, an independent entity, of a serious entity. We Colombians have an asset

1:20:40 that I think we do not value, because we have lost it very rarely, which is macroeconomic stability. We in Latin America are among the most stable countries. We have had two crises in modern history. The ninety- nine, which was the internal island of the coronavirus, was world- wide. And this has been partly thanks to a good bank of the Republic, an independent bank that has managed the macroeconomics, then giving the responsibility of taking care of the resources to the baco to the Republic guarantees that it does not happen what happened in Argentina. I think that' s a very good decision and, hopefully, the Rulers every time they spoke, had prior consultation with the calculator. Ask him, please, for the transitional regime. A person who is already over nine hundred or seven hundred and fifty weeks old, but who has more than eleven years to reach his age, how he applies to him.

1:21:29 And there, in pension reforms there is always a transition? For what reason? If we go to extremes, because you can' t change the rules of the game to a person who' s a day of pension in the same way that he would change the rules of the game to a young person who just started trading yesterday. Then always a transition. The transition that it says is people who have certain characteristics are not changed the rules of play, they would be in the regime that is currently in place. They are not going to be changed from what the reform says is that the transition they designed for this reform is because of the number of weeks that have been paid for women who have served more than seven hundred and fifty weeks are left with the previous rigman, less than seven hundred and fifty that change the regime and the men more than a thousand and more weeks are left with the previous one, not less than nine hundred blankets and nine fewer change the regime. In general, in most reforms that I know, it is not done for weeks, it is for years that they lack to reach age, that is, it is done by age. In this case it' s for weeks.

1:22:36 So the question is whether you have 11 years left in this reform. No matter how many years he' s missing, it only matters that he has or doesn' t have more than a thousand weeks to stay in the previous regime, which, from my point of view, is not so good. It' s not so good for what reason,' cause it' s different. A person who has had more opportunity to work, is a formal job all the time and at age forty has a thousand weeks than a person and since he or she has a thousand weeks or more he or she does have a previous termin. True, a person who has had a volatilla in his work, that formal, sometimes informal and at fifty- five sixty years old is eight hundred weeks old, then the thousand weeks leave him in the previous regime, which does not affect his pension. If he' s still young and fifty- eight change him, you played to keep going, then I think he had to move until week. If son the figure said the magic head to open the trulla gate buried the fields and those we already have and we have only eight hundred weeks, clearly, exactly, those who already have less than eight hundred weeks, already enter the semi- contributory regime and that fifteen and contributory mem. Previously, the resources of this is what in corporation was called substitute compensation or in private funds the evolution of jumps. Now what the reform proposes is don' t give him that money back. We took that you saved. Let' s read if you' re an additional twenty percent man, if you' re an additional thirty percent woman, and

1:24:06 we create a lifetime income that' s going to be less than the wage pension itself, but it' s a lifetime income, an income for the rest of your life. People who don' t get a pension, but it was not even a week, give them back their savings. You have to wait until you reach your age. Many thanks to the expert and Ignacio. He' s got to get to age. When he gets to age and if he doesn' t reach the thousand three hundred weeks. There are several roads. If you are between a thousand and a thousand three hundred, you enter the figure of advance pension, which means the antidip pressure, that you are going to pay the pension, but you are going to leave, you are going to discount what you did not quote, then you are going to have a slightly smaller pressure, but you are going to have an income anyway, that is the advance pension. If it is in less than a thousand and up to three hundred, that is, between three hundred and nine hundred and ninety- nine, what Ahorita said is not returned to him.

1:24:56 Why don' t you turn the money. This is very important. We, human beings, believe that we are very rational, but in reality we are not so rational. We have a few sets, for example, to have the silver now than to have it when we are seventy years old. That' s the bias of the present and generate. The people who receive the money say no, because I' m going to see the next ones. I invest it well and it' s going to go well and at two years and the plagued one. That' s why you' re not paying back the money anymore. And that happens many pension regimes in the world, if you don' t create a lifetime income with a state subsidy. It' s nacho for a 20 percent man to expect Gabriel to come in line. It is true that if you pay more than one thousand three hundred weeks, you will have a higher pension. Of course it is, because when you calculate it in colpensions, in the pension you get the average at the time of the last ten years and to that you apply what is technically called the replacement rate, then you go to that average to the idea of the last ten years and the pension is sixty- five percent to the replacement tarsa of that average salary. But that' s when I' m a thousand three hundred weeks old. But if you have contributed more than 1, 3300 for each additional year, that is for every additional fifty weeks that you have quoted the replacement rate goes up and up to eighty percent. Then yes, you may have a higher song. Having quoted more. He writes Galicia, Doctor Olibera. I' ve contributed my whole life to two- year history of pension colpnsions and I must have more than a thousand weeks. What

1:26:26 about me answers Dr Olivera this hour in six am If we still say it comes out the proposal comes out as it is raised by the Senate. You can' t do anything to him, because he' s already had more than seven hundred and fifty weeks of transition. Then he would stay in the previous regime and his entire pension would be paid with pensions. I mean, it wouldn' t change anything, because there they give those statements and it gives that clarity and we' ll see what happens in the House of Representatives. Well, let' s rest on the subject. Let' s put a little bit of humor there old man on his way so crazy he used to work. Sir, it' s not gonna be us crying. Arrey barreyte in what energy, what enthusia will you practically have like what ok like that for parpato so Gracias you were in a trial at a trial? Yes, sir, in a trial, of course, in a trial, who is the defendant, the judge, the lawyer. No, that was full of everyone, for they are who, nothing more, are at the trial, who are all of them and honor the judge, the accused, at the trial. In Colombia there is the judge, the prosecution, yes, the defense, yes, the proxy of victims and the prosecutor' s office.

1:27:41 What a crowd. There is no witness there. Güey I remember, then there are no witnesses. And eventually there may be witnesses, there may be trials where no witnesses go. But then no, there' s no reds. I don' t put it either It' s possible we' re getting red. There' s not the gentleman who was sweeping in there picking that up too. That one comes first and leaves when the hearing starts. He' s not staying anymore, no, but he' s going to be. The cop has to go clean up others are. The means of counting are approximately inl I wanted. Depends on the volume of audiences in each city. Oh, it' s gonna eat like that Hahahahaha and say for red How many wings, how many wings. These are, I don ' t know what portion. Days asked for them, no, no, but they weren' t. They were halls, how many rooms, yes they asked for them, then they didn' t. No, we haven ' t all asked yet. Ah good smart, good Liabel. They have to cough ceocytes. If you' re going to eat that well, yes no, but already with so many people of the trial I think love changed the joke well, we still have that and the clerk of the judge is missing. So if there' s already a lack of labontaire that meets and eventually the guards and there' s a detainee. No. I' m sure they' ve been published. I already said I' m a cop.

1:28:53 Well, sure, yeah, no, but in that case they wouldn ' t be cops, they' d be impecto guards. And I wanted to come to ask for a right of petition, as well as deserved right I can change the joke paracti tell it I am answering what you ask me. Yeah, no, but I can' t imagine what all people are. Then I arrived they say good and you recognized that you stole your neighbor ' s coat. Yes, yes, sir, something else to add. Yes, if I can add a little cloth to the sleeves that it is grew in the rang snail firefly I am the voice I represent before the House of the democratic center and I am the voice of those who, from the political point of view, are outraged with the way in which the President of the Republic acts in relation to pension reform. And it is that, having reached an agreement with the Liberal Party and the U Party for the approval of the project in second debate, the President decided to change the rules of the game and break those agreements. He was not able to honor his word even for more than two days and with what the President proposes. Unfortunately, the project is getting considerably worse in practice. Pensions in Colombia are statized and pension liabilities, which are already taxed by the bill approved in the Senate, become even more unsustainable. That shows that in this government you can' t trust

1:30:31 Gabriel of the houses is radio anco. The firefly' s on in Caracol, well, let' s get it done. So criminal groups continue to occupy territories and we do not see the presence of the State. Unfortunately, Gabriel has to say that yes, that the terrorist groups, of criminal groups, the so- called central FARK headquarters commanding Alias and Van Mordisco, the other new marquetalia of Alias, Ivan Marquez, the National Liberation Army, the Gulf Clan, did to the Spartans these last two of bliss. All of them are increasingly in control of the territory. There is an absolute absence of the State in many areas of the country. Unfortunately, this is what continues to happen that, in addition, Gabriel is generating small criminal groups that are not identified with these or heavily armed. They are also doing theirs in many Colombian territories, for example, by installing tolls. In recent days, a series of videos of indigenous groups have even been seen riding tolls between quotes on roads in the department of Meta. In the last few hours there was a very strong blow from the army, from the national army. I' d better correct there national army. There we ended up confusing this really national army in that already notorious area of the silver town of Algeria, in the department of the cau About fifteen men of the so- called central FARK staff have

1:32:04 been decommissioned by the army forces, in what seems at last to be an action of legal repressive force of the State when it confronts criminal groups that have powerful weapons like these, because the State has to make its power feel and that is what has been claimed from many sectors of the country. Unfortunately, the balance of control of the territory remains highly negative for the Petro Government headed by the President and the Minister of Defence, Ivan Velázquez, who remains one of the loosest letters of the cabinet of the national Government. Oh, sir, as always, he' ll call my defenseless man to see what' s going on there. This is the answer machine of the Minister of Defense, Ivan de Lázquez. It seems to me that there is already a different proposal from the Minister to stop the growth and expansion of illicit cultivatives mark or no and to stop believing in Chinese tales, because it is serious. It ' s called to see if the Minister has a response to the growing robberies and robberies we see in the countryside and in the city. Mark two and land calling Planet Earth. Calling Planet Earth. It is called to know if the Minister will ever tell the Colombians why we have seen illegal armed groups patrolling in some regions without anyone facing them. Mark three and sit and wait, because that' s going to take a while. And if you believe that the Minister has solutions to all the problems of insecurity in the country, squeeze asterisk and force us, at least, to remain in the appalling. Oh

1:33:40 please, call us more of the minister he won' t call you either Thank you. There' s nothing wrong with that answering machine. We' re going to call the news at the closing of the afternoon of six, fifty minutes, Gabriel. News at the close with what the former director of the day, Lisandro Junku, is warning that pension reform is getting into a tax reform for pensioners would pay rent. This is because, as approved by the Senate in article eighty- five, they delete a fundamental element, says article one hundred and six of the Tax Statute, the monthly word thousand uvt is changed by a thousand vte monthly. Which means translated into what it will be to pay rent monthly pensions above three million six hundred thousand pesos a month.

1:34:31 A mockery tells Congress that it must process these debates by third and fourth commission and I also tell Gabriel, who is coming to Bogotá Steve Wosni that co- founder of Apple who will participate in the Game Changers Fest from two thousand twenty- four, an event that will take place between tomorrow and Sunday at the Agora Convention Center in Corferias, one of the most important events of entrepreneurship, business, innovation. The mayor himself, Carlos Fernando Ga, has highlighted this event and says that he will capitalize on Bogotá as a reference for smart cities, information, news that we will expand, immediately on the 20th hour news with Diana Caldero. All right, sir, a little bit of humor. Count well, well, Abelito, cabrielito, now the twilight fell.

1:35:19 Yes, sir, the dark ones. It' s all dark and cold. Yes, I mean, it' s a violent twilight, slow, yes, gablito, an important fact. Imagine that this act is impressive to see. He talks about the amantis amantisecto he eats the couple, he is already other insects. Yeah, yeah. Usually eardo yes, yes, yes, but the explanation sobers yes. You' re not gonna keep hearing about what or the subject. If the male tablecloth and religious can' t be popular. As long as her head is attached to her body, then the female starts the sex act by ripping her head off. What' s it worth, the mantilla pant. It' s something else you' re thinking about,' cause you give us the head to start sex. Well, of course, sometimes we lose our heads to see for ourselves how I feel about the past. Yes or no. Risa no, I don' t, no, no, either friend or clear be clear impotence, prevented or declares good good carlito of important data, that had left it. That was good enough, I' d done no. That would have been a joke there, yes and no. I think we' re all working together now to help save energy. Yeah, right, when I bring the TV and I watch Maduro pay once for the TV gablitos or one has to be collaborating on this torrito. Just imagine we' re going then with the bad

1:36:50 guy and the good guy at this hour in the firefly. Now, in the firefly, the bad and the good. The bad guy won' t get confused. Little friend' s bad, this one' s good. It' s a bad claw in which friends, talking to friends, what they called women, were women. Ah then Gabriela of Alexandra, Gabriela yes, said Gabriela and Alexandra, my girlfriend told me that I was half donkey and what happened. Dude, you didn' t tell me I was half a donkey, but I thought it was because I couldn' t read. But now I couldn' t get up. It' s kind of good, it was God' s May. Yeah, yeah, good or good, but half hard, half hard? Or hard? Don' t you?

1:37:39 No, no, he' s not. No, no, no? Don' t you? No. Go ahead. Yes, they were going to make a film in Mexico about the eight- year- old boy and then they were casting for Professor Girafales. Yeah, and he got it from a Mexican who did the casting cina casting SNS. Yeah, because the producer asked the candidate, he said he' s coming to audition like in Mexico. No, he' s coming to cast for Professor Jirafales. He said yes, ma' am, come in not after you and won the casting garlito. But that' s not why it was more of an anecdote than a joke I made a good gadera. Now yes, the gable joke, that a condemned to the electric chair cared forty thousand voltus and in this rationing of my sword and pulling the silver and the energy, made gallito.

1:38:30 Then the executioner told him. Last one, I want the guy. Yes, we all hold hands, we lend goodbye. Sir.