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La Lucianaga, Gabriel de las casas
is Caracol Radio, Hi garden yes,

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Hi Nina. Hey, we'
re on the Tiquitic Record. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, we can'
t talk or tell stories about my stories

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there, because only an hour of
showtime, because then comes junior millionaires.

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Here on Caracol Radio, he'
s fine another day I' ll tell

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you about the school about trust.
What is trust. You trust what I

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do and I trust your good deeds, you trust that I took your chocolates

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and you trust that you know it
was me. That' s bad,

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but we' re trustworthy. No, yeah, no, no, no,

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like, you need to talk after
that, I don' t need

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to fix it anymore, I don' t need to build trust, your

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trust in me, but I trust
you, but you say you want to

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eat the car to the baby.
You fuck you' re complaining about the

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baby, but it didn' t
go to someone else, because you trust.

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But I don' t care that
it' s someone else, that

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it' s you, but I' m chocolate. They' re sitting

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on my desk. Yeah, but
how was I what' s gonna happen?

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Not missing is that he trusts You, does not mean that it is

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a fault yes, but to see
is that it cannot be. You can

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' t make a mistake. On
the contrary, it' s worse than

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me. That' s called that
abuse of trust, which is totally different,

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because it may be, you might
be right, but I' m

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not going to abuse your choir,
not in your chocolates, but an abused

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chocolate is that there were two left
tomorrow I like the other or the five

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eight minutes you see. The strange
reality dif la Lucia Naga, Gabriel de

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las casas is Caracol Radio. In
the afternoon, the homeland, the life

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land of jaca and from now on
in its grays the questions. We work

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already shoework until he arrived to ask
himself two questions of to graviata, how

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does he cover his person. All
right, well, here we hope it

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rains, that we have at least
rains and I hope that they carry the

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reservoirs and also attention pending, because
apparently, there are new blockades on the

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Avenida del Dorado arriving at the airport. We are confirming here on Caracol Radio,

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but we are informed that some taxi
drivers are already blocking a few days

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of entrance to 26th Street towards Bogotá
Airport. What a tantrum to hear,

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look quickly before I ask our little
companions, I tell you with a post.

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He is celebrating fifty years where I
empower a nation of boys working for

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the protection of children and adolescents who
a beautiful work will always have activities.

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This Saturday and Sunday, Don Orlandito, Billiards, how I do with who

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will be hearing your person. Why
we continue to go wrong with housing issues,

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because we continue to do so because
it falls, construction falls to sales,

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the initiation of projects in Colombia.
And now, because it is a

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trend that has been pronounced, it
is pronounced continuously and that is the most

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worrying thing. Twenty- one consecutive
months fall sales and start of projects in

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Colombia. And that' s the
market, like it' s closing.

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In addition, in the first quarter
of the two thousand twenty- four Camacol,

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the guild that groups the construction companies
in the country highlights a historical drop

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in sales, the lowest. They
say in the last fifteen years about thirty

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- two thousand houses were marketed.
This is a drop of almost twenty percent.

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If you compare with the same period
last year and the lowest level of

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the last fifteen years, which adds
up, look at the bad timing of

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the launches fell by thirty- four
percent with a stop to the previous year

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and project initiations in more than twenty- six percent. It is a new

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reality that is being presented in the
construction sector, says the President of Camacol,

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Guillermo Herrera. With levels of marketing
activity very similar to those observed there

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in the two thousand eleven. Well, look at the subject. The Minister

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of Housing, Catalina Velasco, spoke
to the spectator' s colleagues and this

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is like the diagnosis she does what
is happening. A first point, it

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is impossible for the Colombian State to
have infinite subsidies. The housing market is

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a market where demand generates supply.
Not the other way around, supply does

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not generate demand. If we had
a million, 200, 000 families with

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money to buy homes, the builders
build them in a year, but what

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we don' t have is families. We have a poor society that has

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no way to buy its home.
Subsidies cannot be infinite. What an immense

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effort the national government is making in
the twenty- second year to put into

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the development plan a commitment of 50, 000 grants a year and to obtain

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resources of budgetary addition, because the
reality is that Gabriel needs some incentives and

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that was something that was recognized in
some way in the previous administration, when

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to strata three and four, for
example, some kind of help was provided

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to dynamize the sector at a time
when the 19th- day pandemic was lived

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and so that the issue of construction
did not come to stung, to dynamize

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a sector that gives employment, that
is what was also intended for people to

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have own housing, but that a
sector of those who boast employment would be

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energized. In our country. Good
opatogita. Thank you vile Thank you,

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Don organito, give me the love
of little boy Good afternoon you will hear

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your person. We have to worry
about a blackout or don' t be

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humble to say no. It'
s not like I liked the Ministerio Ambiente

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' s trine. He' s
the one who' s got it out

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there. Someone saw him out there
in Minister Gra, a phrase he said

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wasn' t really a triune.
She wrote that me that' s like

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telling her I put on my rain
jacket. No. I wear it,

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no, no, no, it' s going to be our turn to

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light a dance to rain. No. No. That' s got his

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little venison. Yeah. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, the candle' s

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gonna hit us. Yes, ma' am Well, yes, well,

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to see the subliminal message about the
candle Well, ducky, I answer you

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either pay or you don' t
black out. The government headed by the

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Minister of Minema and Energy, Andrés
Camacho, insists reconfirms, according to them

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that there is no risk of ration
of energy in the country. He says

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there will be no rationing, but
in the meantime, he' s inviting

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us to save the energy. Meanwhile, the thermals that are the alternative,

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the hydroelectrics, which today are with
the low levels of the embassing by twenty

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- nine percent, are at their
peak capacity. And that implies that,

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on the one hand, there is
a more expensive energy, because it has

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a much higher cost in production and, second, it is a much more

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polluting energy, because it uses,
for example, today in eight percent eight

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coma two percent is being used coal
to generate energy in the country. Disel

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is also being used in four coma
five percent, highly polluting. We'

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re using 15 comma gas five percent. It' s not that polluting,

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but it' s more than hydropower. It is being used with bust leo,

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which is a waste of oil production, and that Greenpeas, for example,

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says it is a production, in
addition to costly, with serious environmental

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damage. Meanwhile, the generation of
electric hydro power is at sixty- five

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percent. It is the most recent
figures that are also happening, in a

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government that has declared itself an environmentalist
hundred percent, but that is having to

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go to these energy sources that are
more expensive and more polluting, because of

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the lack of caution that has been
warned for a year Patojita Gabriel. In

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March of the two thousand twenty-
three, Senator David Luna held a debate

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with the Minister of the time i
of Neveles and warned that no measures were

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being taken to prevent an eventual rationing
of energy and also an event to water

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rationing due to forecasts regarding the phenomenon
of the child, since what he said

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at that time. I have here
the text of Minister Irene Beles. There

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is no risk of energy rationing.
We don' t understand with what interest

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some people want to generate panic.
The reservoirs of the country are above the

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average two decades ago, even their
superiors, to those of two thousand fifteen,

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when the phenomenon of the child appeared. What happened at the end of

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that debate applauded the Minister. They
pulled it out on their shoulders, those

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of the historic courtyard and the coalition
of government. And today, she'

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s not a minister, she'
s going from Consul to London. That

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' s the situation right now.
The government made that there will be no

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blackout, that there will be no
rationing, but the forecasts are negative.

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The environment, said Villarra, Minister
Ambiente Susana, blowjob Gabriel, says that

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the water crisis in Bogotá shows the
dependence of thirty- five percent on the

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water supply of the aqueduct in the
Amazon Andean connection, which is at risk

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by deforestation of eighty percent of the
Andes. On the verge of losing this

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connection, Gabriel and the region can
continue to grow, expanding as if nothing

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had happened, for there we would
have to light a candle every day to

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see if we have water from Hello, we will have to light a candle

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for the rationing and precisely for what
the Minister and Nebeles did and that we

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do not know if now the remedy
was worse than the disease. Minister of

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Mines, Andrés Camacho, how are
you doing with rationing or not? Good

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afternoon, Gabriel, good afternoon,
well, I' ll come back and

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repeat, we don' t contemplate
a rationing. How many times I have

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to tell you. I don'
t know if you suddenly didn' t

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hear me. Okay, but I' ll come back and repeat, but

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it does. There' s no
rationing. Yeah, you, what you

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' re doing is looking for a
headline for your news, Minister. So

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let' s go with that came
the hypothetical case of a rationing. What

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God would be like to see,
Gabriel, if there was a rationing we

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would start with the industrial sector and
talk to Ecopetrol. Yeah, but there

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' s gonna be no rationing.
I repeat, there will be no rationing.

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Don' t insist. Yeah,
you, what you' re looking

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for is a topic to talk to
your wife before bedtime. Yeah, what

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an erotic subject. Yeah, yeah, or what a shame. I'

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ll get in there. I would
like to know what measures are in place

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to ensure energy capacity. Please,
who' s talking there? But that

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crazy ah another god of mine I
already realized. Look, what you'

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re looking for is a title for
the next cumbia that you' re going

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to get out of what movies you' re not going to see They actually

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occupy the good energy for you Well, this Minister of Mines says there'

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s not going to be ration.
See what Gabriel can do. What he

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has said is that they are evaluating
to develop mechanisms of disconnection people. In

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the Minister it' s not rationing, that' s it. Mr Andrés

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Camacho says there is no rationing in
Colombia. What there might be is that

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mechanisms of disconnection people. This is
a technical release. Maybe that' s

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what he' ll call himself Let' s give him a roll and see

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if he wakes up, says Romo
combalve. Yeah, country wants to decarbonize

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him They' ve got a lot
to think about today Yeah, they'

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re the thermals that are saving them. Some dude' s in there I

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' m puy. They' re
saving us carbon and gas. The one

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they already said no more exploring to
depend on Nicolás Maduro. Oh well,

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since four is having a hard time
Colombia, Energy doesn' t send them

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anymore to depend on others. It
has no future of fright, the transition

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ci but very slowly. That'
s what Peter and the Minister understand.

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So put on clothes face, friends
of spacito, energies of not going to

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get in. I' ll be
all right, then, to make speeches

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and that' s what' s
ready. If cordial button will be short

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circuit of spasito. The Lucien naga
Gabriel of the houses is snail Radio Bueno

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five, twenty- eight we have
visit of Lula da Silva, Visit of

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Brazil, President Petro, a week
quite moved and now meet withÉlula Silva.

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How good we are or looks like
a nothing hollow web cow doesn'

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t p my always greeting of things. Yes, Bongi, Bongia, that

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is, Mr Journalist Maffio, camper
of tourist destinations and accumulator of sweets as

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if he were a boy of the
thirty- one of October and it has

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been quite moving week and today we
talk to Lula. Yes, we are

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with Lula and we have begun to
deal with important issues such as, for

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example, the honor and pride,
which has been very great for him,

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for President Lula Silva, to be
able to share with a world leader like

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me the President of Brazil, we
compare as a world leader, as it

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is called clear, yes, in
fact he says look already, yes,

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ok, yes. Exactly. We
have dealt with issues of trade, of

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reverses, of sustainability, above all, of sustainability to see if I am

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able to sustain myself as President for
a few more years. It' s

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still too early, not enough to
give them any more details, but I

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' m telling you this week.
They understand me well I leave you because

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I told Lula that I have a
super invitation for him this afternoon. How

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I' m going to invite him, as it' s two- for

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- one movie Wednesday today, I' m going to take him to my

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Ore movie. It doesn' t
leave like this, no, no,

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it hasn' t done us either
Well, Millar, what we know from

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the information service about what happened today
between Bueno, what is happening between Petro

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and Lula Gabriel. Yes, I
invite you to an event, but it

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is at the opening of the Book
Fair in Bogotá, which begins today in

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corferias and where, of course,
President Luis Gnacio Lulas Silvas, one of

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the guests of honor before, signed
in Casa de Nariño, after a meeting,

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first individually, then in an expanded
form with their government teams, seven

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agreements instruments of cooperation in areas such
as crime prevention, human trafficking, the

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prevention of hunger for technological development,
rights of the LGBT community, also the

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situation of migrants living in the region, tourism and family agriculture. There were

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seven bilateral cooperation agreements and Brazil is
one of the most important trading partners in

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Colombia, the third in terms of
trade balance. Six zero million dollars were

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exchanged between the two countries in the
two thousand twenty- three, so it

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is a relationship that is followed at
least there according to the signed agreements,

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is still being built and that continues
for good change. Well let' s

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keep talking about Venezuela' s neighbors, because it' s news right now,

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worrying news for Colombia if we want
to continue to maintain trade and oil

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and gas relations. We anticipated it
yesterday Gabriel here at the Naga lookout.

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Today the Government of Joe Biden has
already made official the reopening of sanctions against

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the oil and gas businesses and others
with Venezuela' s relief of sanctions that

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had occurred as an effect of the
Barbados Agreement, in which Colombia signed as

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a guarantor to allow the restoration of
democracy. All that has happened with the

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blockade of María Corina Machado as an
official candidate for the opposition, has led

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the government Joe Biden to restore from
midnight all the sanctions that have been applied.

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This is called the General License forty- four that had been granted preliminary

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twenty to Venezuela for six months pending
the emergence of that democracy that does not

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exist today. In the view of
the majority of observers and countries in the

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world. Then the Treasury Department has
said that it will not renew this relief

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and put as an eye limit because
this directly involves Colombia on May thirty-

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one so that foreign companies will stop
all the oil oil supply and export operations

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and all the businesses they have had
with Venezuela. Any company that wants to

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do business with that country must obtain
a license or approval from the United States

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in order not to fall under the
same sanctions as well. This has a

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direct impact on Colombia, I insist
because there were already many advances in reestablishing

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that binational gas pipeline with the aim
of buying from Gaza to Venezuela, Well

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unless we want to fall also in
the actions of the United States, we

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will not be able to buy anything
from the regime of Nicolás Maduro. But

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they already said that no mowing product, easy repair, it' s not

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so expensive, it' s not
so late. No, because it can

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take two years, experts say more
or less to be in full reactivation.

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But while they repair it, there
are sanctions and there is no way,

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at least from the point of view
of those relations with the United States,

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of having those gas businesses. And
this is very serious, because if those

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sanctions are lifted and Maduro, as
everything indicates, is going to be re

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- elected by one hundred and thirty
percent of the boats in Venezuela can be

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heard pitifully. Let' s not
say one hundred and two in Colombia,

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because he won' t be able
to do any business. I insist unless

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we also want to enter the list
of the department of the third in the

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United States, which is to end
all the business we have with that country.

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To five, thirty- four in
the Lucierna man to the old way

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Rin It was not for that,
yes, yes, it was ay not

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another queen and four two ay.
It wasn' t about Venezuela. No,

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no pattern no, it wasn'
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No. This is wonderful. He
came up with the party- long Mass

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and the penalty. The second Mass
was because he won millionaires. Ah,

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I feel the pattern truth that it' s worth the two of you the

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orders to celebrate for the same thing
to the lengths and the nineties is good,

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no, no, but I'
m going to work for you.

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Yeah, well, anyway, I' m a little worried about you here.

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He' s given a quick miss. So because they' re losing

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the blue pattern, because of the
City of the City, ah ya,

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but they' re one of those, they' re clear. If not,

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ah well, if that too I
told them, because people doing as

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we put in the chat BCM eja. Well, the truth is thirty-

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five minutes to the ground, you' ll have to leave the wine,

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the meat, and the canned.
Oh, but why, doctor, no,

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no, no, I' m
not a doctor, I' m

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the cashier at the supermarket and with
that dish you can' t even open

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the houses. It' s gaco
radio, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no
no hi no hi my name is to

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read this I want you dark sun
it isn' t but I to you

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if I am your friend, your
friend the friar this me or friar lion

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asks me once we' re busy
And no. Don' t you?

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Don' t you? Don'
t you? Don' t you?

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Don' t you? Don'
t you? Don' t you?

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Don' t you? Don'
t you? Don' t you?

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Don' t you? Don'
t you? Don' t you?

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Don' t you? Don'
t you? Don' t you?

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Don' t you? Don'
t you? Don' t you?

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Hello my is not rushing take off
I love you to the point, do

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not melases, but I yes,
yes, I am your friend, I

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will tip you away. He hits
you and I ask Orlando Pillar if it

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' s true everything they' re
saying, that' s going to raise

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the price of fatures. Answer for
John, because I' m a tomboy.

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Easy in reality to see billiards at
last how the fines or punishments were

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left for those I wasted without water. Fines had already been said by the

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Mayor, Carlos Fernando Galana. Here, in these microphones it has between seven

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hundred thousand pesos to one million two
hundred thousand to whom I wasted a hundred

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water. Yes, those who are
surprised wash the car with a hose the

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façade, eventually wasting the water.
But there is an over- cost,

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as today was known to those who
exceed what has been determined as the average

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consumption in the capital of the country. At this moment, Gabriel is three

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hundred and eighty pesos for every cubic
meter you spend too much, that is,

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monthly. You are authorized to spend
up to 22 cubic meters per month

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in your residential unit. This means
how the invoice arrives every two months that

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you will observe on the invoice.
If you reach forty- four cubic meters

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per month, if you go over
there, you will automatically be charged not

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only what it is worth today.
The cubic meter, because it depends on

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the stratum, but automatically, indifferently
from the area where you go, will

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add those three thousand three hundred eighty
for each cubic meter. That, for

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example, for Soacha will also apply
three thousand one hundred and five pesos.

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For the chancipa, two thousand two
hundred eighty- four pesos and for toncanci

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and peace and paquida. The extra
cubic meter value that you wear will be

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two thousand eighty- two pesos.
Overcoming those limits, five forty in the

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Luciernaga, in the Caracol Firefly ran
I am the voice. I am Daniela

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Mercado lawyer magister in Energy Mining Regulation, and I am the voice of those

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who believe that the statements of the
Minister of Mines and Energy about rationing are

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a true reflection of the critical situation
that the country is going through as a

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result of the child phenomenon. At
present, all Colombians must be aware of

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the critical era that the electricity sector
is going through in the country. We

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are faced with a climate phenomenon that
has brought extreme droughts in most of the

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territory and for us, this situation
represents a risk in the reliability of the

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energy supply. This is because,
under normal conditions, 70 per cent of

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the energy produced in the country is
due to hydroelectric plants and the phenomenon of

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children has caused us not to have
enough water resources and, as a result,

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we are facing an emergency to meet
the demand urgent that plans be issued

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from the Presidency of the Republic to
prevent Colombia from going through energy rationings.

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But, in the meantime, from
businesses and households, we can contribute by

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being reasonable with our consumption. You
see the intricacies of reality, the Lucia

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Naga, Gabriel of houses is Caracol
Radio, uy man. We' re

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going to go and look who came
here to see Marquio, sir who monkey

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falls asleep or who' s like
tepadito dad well, no love, no

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fear, no cell phone already,
ya, ya, ya. Yes,

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sometimes you as a tembadito with all
respect, for with a choir I am

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bonomo torop yes, yes, sleepy, half, what you are doing.

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Yeah, well, uh, he' s not cute. I' m

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the one who' s in good
shape, since we' re good at

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it, because junior millionaires are already
here, the phenomenon of radio- snake

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football. Ah, well, Monkey
needs to win if yes, api so

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I don' t get equal mo, man and no, sir cleanly,

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as always homono, how much he
wants them to win. No, no,

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man, no, I didn'
t find it cute, no,

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no, no. No. Tranquin
looks at a few zeros. It serves

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a zero, yes, of course, yes, more kids don' t

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perish five zeros. Thanks for the
goals. One orlero there is pa non,

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güey don' t come any more
no one comes calm down güey another

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goal make him another to disguise.
Yeah, well, he says yes,

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monkey, okay, good two zero
no. If you' re all ready,

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you can' t see clearly anymore
You hear him, sir, what

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' s happened over there, through
those top and bottom worlds. No,

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because monkey imagines how cute the one
that' s going on monkey how you

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think I hope I lost my libretto
is so let' s go this kind

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of saw an old Gaul. Hey
they' re laying down my mother already

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already opened that she wasn' t
a wey yes already now yes, all

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this is getting on the air.
Oh you, what' s like,

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what' s happening to him,
I mean, seriously, he thinks he

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' s at home or he'
s at home, but as he commands,

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but it' s that, yes, we' re on the air,

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Lord I know, what is the
guy believing what he thinks. Yeah,

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now we' re not gonna contradict
any man, but I thought what.

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No. No, no, no, no, no, no,

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I don' t swallow us that
I liked and it shows and it really

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shows what' s wrong with the
people here, that is, they weren

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' t in the living room of
the house. He' s working,

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sir No, no, but not
even how cute you know Stay and see

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what happened. Man, I'
ll take him on the good ride,

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follow me, she' ll take
the water out of his house to get

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that excuse out and don' t
suck for the vinca. Tomorrow morning,

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tomorrow, tomorrow, eight the morning
between you know monkey for the pinca and

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already we have water to wash,
to give you a few pouchitos. But

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now, man, don' t
worry, leave me alone and don'

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t count. They were warm to
me. I' ve hit him with

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those Colombian political whispers and Pillo,
yes, I' m squeezing him out.

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First. The first thing is to
clarify that there, in that song

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I had nothing to do with it. That' s how you understand me,

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yes, yes, but I don' t know what they' re

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looking for old things. Monkey I
do. I want to ask ally mel

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Quiso. He' s an alias
month. He' s called that the

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alias jo no, no, yes, he' s the alias and he

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' s an alian very chimbas,
for I tell him honestly how much you

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don' t want to make an
ally, but already umbrellas, ask him

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amel Quise on that topic. It' s true that you' re looking

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for newer things. Or how to
see the back with the whispers of the

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past. Like that. That was, as you tell it, an old

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episode of more than forty- five
years ago, when he was President of

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the Republic Alfonso López Michelsen, who
was in the period of seventy- four

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to seventy- eight of the last
century. They are what are called declassified

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documents of National Security, which has
a validity between thirty forty- five years

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and that at the request of some
organizations that do the search of these archives,

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since they are allowed to be known
to the public. In this case,

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it is the National Security Archive,
which is an organization dedicated to these

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tasks and has published its most recent
report concerning declassified documents on the government of

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Alfonso López Michelson of the Liberal Party
and reports that gave him something curious.

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In this case through Rosa Line carter
Era, the wife of the then President

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of the United States, Jimmy Carter, Ella, made a visit to Colombia

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and what has been known is that
the objective was more than diplomatic and social,

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was to give López Michelsen a list, a kind of blacklist of characters

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from the country, among others,
politicians and military, who allegedly had direct

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relations with drug trafficking groups at that
time. Some of that information was published

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in the year seventy- nine on
the company' s very famous sixty-

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minute program. Yes, but not
much detail was revealed. At that time,

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for example, César tuurbay Ayala,
who was already president in the seventy

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- ninth of July, was discussed. For in this report what we have

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known and have at hand the complete
document, already with a translation, is

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that they appear, among others,
Alfonso López Caballero, eldest son of President

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López Miquel. Alfonso López Miquel,
yes sir, who has performed many diplomatic

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tasks. The most recent was Ambassador
to Russia right now with Blaimir Puti in

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the governments of Santos and Ivan,
a language duke who speaks and speaks.

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And yes, Mr López Caballero,
according to this report had possible drug trafficking

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activities and the review appears, curiously
next to a woman who became very famous

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in the last few years that she
already died, Grizzelda Blanco, who had

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just had. It was the TTIS, because that fact appears there. In

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addition, they relate, for example, to Julius Caesar Turbaya Yala by way

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of one of his brothers, Aníbal
Turbay. There is also a relationship about

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a then official police minister of defense, in the case of Turbaía a Yala

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Corrijo, was his nephew Aníbal Turbay, who, according to him, when

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these reports would have had links with
mafia in power to elect the heads of

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the agencies responsible for justice in the
government of moby Ayala. What has to

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be said clearly is that these reports
did not derive from concrete investigations, either

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in Colombia or in the United States. None of these persons were prosecuted or

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prosecuted or had to make statements.
We don' t know because there'

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s no report of exactly what happened
to that report that was handed over to

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President López Miquel Cinderisto in a curious
way. The bulletin or memo was delivered

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directly to her by the First Lady
of the United States, Russallin Carter,

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and there is a very anecdotal detail
there in those reports, if they say

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that President López Michels did not treat
the first lady very well, which was

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displacing, that they felt uncomfortable.
Something happened at the time. But we

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are talking forty- five years ago
and, as the Lord says here,

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I am going to quote his words
merely warm for a few little whispers,

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some of which are no longer conviens
Well and the eye the word is possible.

409
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Yeah, sure, yeah, there
were some clues, there were some

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reports. After justice nothing has ever
happened and we have to stick to the

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voice of justice and in this case, because we cannot claim that it happened

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exactly. Well, pattern comes football, comes, millionaires, comes juniors.

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Yeah, I remember monkeys here We
gentlemen alike Well, good- bye,

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I call hard to disguise, so, well, goodbye, there was God

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so crazy working. Sir, it' s not going to be us crying

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out loud that it seemed like pretty
much yes to you, for that reason,

417
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thank you that you laughed. The
man' s from Wednesday. It

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' s a Wednesday joke and he
laughed like that, okay. We already

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know that when you laugh, what
you do laugh before you tell the joke

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is that it' s very not
bad, it' s packed, in

421
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cart, well. It' s
not like she was a couple of husbands.

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That is represented no, no,
this, if this, if this,

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I do not repent before if husbands
of them, because she was his

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wife and he was her husband.
They were about twelve years old. It

425
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' s twelve years, there'
s no certainty I made the mule.

426
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Yes, sir, twelve years,
is it twelve years? True, and

427
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know the silk boas already ajada,
lord already old predites, for to them

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and then tells the made love love, you believe that I am intelligent and

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says already yes, but asymptomatic,
the bad, this way will be narrated

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marriage. It' s a streak
of those. This stick not for gossip

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is also asymptomatic. Yeah, yeah. Valuables