Dejen de traquetear, Asocapitales y alzas a los combustibles

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Hi, gargy Hi, baby.
How excellent you are, How happy you

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are to be in the town of
Subo today, at the Lucérraga de Caracol

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Radio, there is never any connection
to the Brancis Library. Things, uh,

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Caldas, it' s Sabio Caldas. Today we' re going to

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tell you stories of the wise Caldas
also yes, yes, I think it

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' s excellent, because you know
what it looks like. We are today

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with azo capitals that we are launching, in addition with the Council of Bogotá,

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Council on the Move, with the
support and support of the stations of

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the PRISA Group of Caracol Radio,
So we are going to move post the

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localities of Bogotá and we will know
in what we are, how it moves,

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how we are in matter of mobility
of maya road how it cares to

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its capitals of mobility throughout the country. We have a very interesting program,

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besides, with all the characters of
the Luciana, that you look like the

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lentiidea Garry will be that they do
not count something for the children, because

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of course you do know why,
because it is very important the mobility with

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notice that we always complain about how
long the children spend on the school routes,

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in the schools, of the trancones
in the morning, the safety of

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the road mesh, which is very
important, also the state of the vehicles

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that carry the children. All this
is part of what we want to talk

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about here today with capitals and with
the Council of the Movement. The Council

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of Bogotá cooks in a thousand clocks
of the Library in Francisco is lime of

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soda are the four and six ja
do Facebo Gabriel of the houses is charge

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Radio Bueno. Let' s go
with a character of the day, as

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we have told you today, our
character of the day of azo capitals launching

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the special project focused on the citizens
of the Colombian capitals, with the support

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and support of the stations of the
PRISA Group and Caracol Radio. On this

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occasion there is an alliance with the
Council of Bogotá and Juan Vadea that we

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will be with him n minutes here
also on Caracol Radio, with the Council

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on the move, in order to
inform the localities like this of raising issues

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that have to the streets, the
attention to the vulnerable population. Anyway,

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we have a lot to talk about. In seconds here, in Lucia Naga,

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in Caracol bummel quice Déctorres again good
afternoon and your character of the day,

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Gabriel, Very good afternoon for you, for the listeners, Thank you

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for being with us. Again,
very happy to be here in the town

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of Suba, Bogotá, one of
the largest in the Colombian capital, character

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of the day, Germán Vargas Lleras. The former vice president, former presidential

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candidate, former minister, a man
who had in his hands the possibility of

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being President of the Republic, had
no protagonism, but the conjunctures typical of

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the image of reputation prevented him.
And try to return to the frontline arena

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with an unusual exit that no one
expected And it is that he said in

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the first place, let us support
the constituent of no more blackmail, no

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more threats that will be called and
let us defeat him in his constituent.

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This Vargaleras exit, of course,
has generated all kinds of reactions. But

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in general, the majority considers that
what Bargaleras wants is, first of all,

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to position himself as the leader of
the opposition, to measure the oil

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to the government and Gustavo Petro in
popularity, which today has a rather low

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reflection in the polls. But others
consider that Bargalleras bit Petro on the hook

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and, therefore, is trying to
open a door that would be dangerous in

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the eyes of many. In this
particular case, Petro is developing his speech.

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It no longer speaks of a constituent
assembly, but of a constituent process.

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It seems that this is something else, but it is worth remembering that

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in Chile the constituent process was the
one that led to the possibility of approving

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a new political constitution, a process
that was ultimately negative for President Gabriel Borich,

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who came with that mandate. In
this case it is worth saying that

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any congressman or the Government itself can
propose a text calling for a constituent national

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assembly. Or we were talking yesterday, it' s constitutional It' s

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legal. It would be necessary to
ask Gabriel if this departure of Vargaleras has

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generated good or bad results. So
far, the only people who have come

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out to support him have been the
members of his own party, where he

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is the undisputed leader. But this
certainly gives oxygen to the debate that President

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Gustavo pett has raised. Now things
are the way they are here. There

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are two people who are campaigning,
both Germán Vargas Lleras, already thinking about

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the Presidency of the Republic, and
Gustavo Petro, who also seems to be

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campaigning, whether he or his political
party, his movement, because he has

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been talking about two thousand twenty-
six for a few months. Let me

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greet Vargas Lleras, Doctor Germán how
he is doing, and then surprised with

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this support, I think also with
some sarcasm to the proposal of the president

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How are you that there was Gabriel
what quiet number. Yes, I like

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the proposal of the Constituent Assembly very
much and that if, well, I

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want Petro not to sponsor or there
is a problem that is why there is

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a quiet name, that I think
so, not that. Yes, I

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ask that we organize ourselves to defeat
Petro in the eventual referendum and in the

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election of the speakers. Now if
you didn' t like what I said,

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why do you call me? I
was calm, but my good people

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already hurt me. They came here
in the afternoon calming down. You embitter

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the afternoon of the people, even
the felis. I want for that,

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yes, but we' re not. It' s not us. For

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example, Juan Carlos Echeverry, former
minister, also collaborator of economist snail,

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who responded to Vargas Lleras, How
Dr Echeverry is doing, the gado as

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is very well, sir we are
going. I answered him textually. Brother

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Mira Vargas Lleras supports the call for
petro. Now it constitutes and I said

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so. Yes, I know just
as dear David walked in England with the

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BREXI who finally slipped and lost and
launched the country. But for a cliff

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in England with the Brexit. That' s a great example. Here,

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when he gave us to support him, I visit him with a plea for

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the exact peace, and President Santos
thought he was going to win and look

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at what ended up that viral.
It' s not that it was built

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by the country of San so that
Petri and Bargalera were in Pocker that dancer

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who understood it, he understood.
I don' t mean spending a lot,

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why not today, because it'
s not today. But you know

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that people are spending the day of
deprivation. But they got a card,

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a gift card of five million more
chickens, yeah, you' re spending

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yourself or like a card millions of
months ago. But how can not and

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to hunt in gasoline to spend in
good areas saw of pon or that it

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goes well done jas Orlando Billiards in
the good afternoon, he made character of

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the day to continue with the theme. Opportunist Gabriela Yes qualified Germán Vargas Lleras.

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Today several political analysts who, of
course, point out what you were

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saying a moment ago. It is
on a political campaign and this was the

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perfect opportunity to get to grips with
this constituent issue. It is not a

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game, Humberto told her of the
street, the constituent convene it, although

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it is done with the rules summoned
from Congress and discussed under procedures that currently

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exist in the same political Constitution,
because it is important in the importance of

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playing according to those rules and avoiding
above all that unnecessary political agitation. Supporting

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that constituent is an act of Fanfarronería
told Humberto of Vargaleras Street, as well

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as Juan Carlos Echeverre. You mentioned
it, but also others, such as

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Francisco José Lloreda or Daniel Briceño to
Alejandro Gabriez himself, Minister of Health,

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tell you that if you want to
get into the political ring of the constituent

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to consolidate as a great opponent,
you are playing with President Petro for non

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- substantive electoral reasons. Politiquería on
one side, who finds his mirror in

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poo and loves you on the other. They don' t care about the

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country. It concludes, and it
is the analysis made by the former Minister

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of Health, to which other voices
in the same sense have joined. Well,

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sir, but we had a little
fun in the firefly a little bit

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of humor. Here' s the
little buddy. Yeah, yeah, or

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I' ll pay. And what
you have to do in a day library

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if I slow down and here people
don' t throw away the sheath,

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that is to say to everyone the
silence is going to be thrown out watching

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everyone. If people applaud me Carlito, not you ask for applause, no

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one was applauding him. No,
but that was behind the clawy cameras when

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the sound came in, and people
were applauding me very well. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah. It' s
humorous tricks, big data gag. Also

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today, 19th of March, when
there are two hundred and eighty- seven

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days left before the end of the
Garoelito year, she is crazy very well.

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Now that' s all pretty much
over to Belis exactly year is the

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other take International Craftsman' s Day
Garlito craftsman? Comedians and artisans don'

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t ask for a discount on your
works. Gaulito. You' re absolutely

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right. Yes, sir, a
craftsman is struggling, doing his company as

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well and asking for a discount.
Yeah, but for his Garlito plays on

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your batteries. Also day the carpenter, International Carpenter' s Day in Venezuela,

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University Worker' s Day, see
what important data Galito and in Russia

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is also celebrated today the day of
submanilist, and he said so juse Pinson.

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Yes, I die, today it' s in Russia. Blin yesterday

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was from Argentina, in Argentina,
today is in Russian. All right,

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and there they all start celebrating Hahahahaja
and World Day of Digital Learning, Week

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of the French Language and the Francophonie
I what a printed thing. It is

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not uy but wei u u uy
with the WII and International Happiness Day.

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Well, it' s tomorrow.
But since I don' t have one,

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I don' t come, so
I already celebrated it today. If

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we celebrate, we' ll hear
it. Well, this joke gathers three

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moments to see the one from the
library, man' s day, because

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it' s man' s day. So easy, gablito to be a

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man, so easy to be a
happy man, so easy to be a

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happily married man. You just have
to say yes, ma' am,

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and it' s that simple.
No, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no. Then we are gathering

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three moments, library day, for
being here at the time of library,

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the Man' s Day movement and
the anecdote of an anecdote of crazy laugh

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garlito in this joke as if three
moments gathered in this joke. There,

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in that bitch shut up, in
that joke you keep talking. Someone enters

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the library in the afternoon. He
was a kind challenge and has the book

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as follows faithful men on the other
side, in science, fiction. I

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don' t agree with that,
neither do I. But it was the

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joke. Gajajajaja, there are bad
jokes that bad joke. That was the

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joke, because it was the entrejilla, it was not one among her gallidor

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that the joke. It' s
like this imagine that he to her,

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he to her and to her what
was hers. Husbands whose husbands among them

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were husbands. Thank God, he
does say love, I' m with

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my Madrid and now he' s
home. You' ve got to come

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here now, you son of a
bitch, or he changed the lock,

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and he never walks into this house
again. Relax Love, be happy your

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Hijappi and to and so said yes, daughter Skin, oy happy are here

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you are with the usual hysteria.
I' m not with your mother Goodbye,

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sir Leave it alone Four hundred and
twenty- seven at the Lucierna,

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that is, he was with the
mother and yes. Well, the good

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plan is what we have today.
We are, as we have mentioned for

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a few moments, in the town
of Suba, in the library Mr Vio

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A yes, yes. I forgot. Go say Simon Valías. No.

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Don' t you? Don'
t you? Don' t you?

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Don' t you? Don'
t you? Francisco José de Caldas,

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Here, in the town of Suba, we are in company with the Colombian

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Association of Capital Cities and the Council
of Bogotá, the Council on the Move

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is with us. Juan Vaina,
who is the President of the Council of

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Bogotá. Councilman is welcome to La
Lucia, not how you are, Juan,

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very good afternoon. Thank you very
much to all the listeners, to

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you on the work table. You
realize a real dream with me. What

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to share with people like you,
how long I' ve seen on the

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radio, on television. Well,
what is it, this Council on the

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move and this Union that we have. Well, Luis María Zapata will buy

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us later than he will with different
cities in the country. But this Council

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on the Move, what is it
about, where are they going to move

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Gabo, because what we want is
to tell the people of the localities of

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the different localities of the city that
the Council does? What does the Council

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do? Many times people do not
understand very well what the role of the

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Bogotá Council is and, in addition, what political control is, what we

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do and what it consists of what
positions there are in the Bogotá Council.

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So it' s a little today. The idea with you is to share

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that experience, to be a councillor
and to share our views in the Council.

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The movement. Well, come on, we' d have to deal

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with a lot of issues today at
nothing, but we want to focus on

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mobility today. If we have to
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how it is received in this administration, what they have and where we

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are going with the capital, because
we simply receive a traffic that looks more

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like a parking lot city. The
city of Bogotá looks more like a parking

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lot than a city that can be
moved. We are with more than five

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hundred fronts of work in Bogotá,
Bogotá. This static look more than sixty

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percent of Bogotá' s works are
delayed and that' s what we received.

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We received a lot of unfinished work. Citizenship as it moves in Bogotá,

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which drinks uncovered streets, sees machinery
parked many times without being used,

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without being activated, without having workers, working, and we have to work

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hard, decidedly with Galan mayor,
with the Council boot, make political control

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and carry out those hours. Claudia
Lopez said and I think she' s

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right. The works cause inconvenience.
It' s not as simple as doing

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works and not bothering you. Don' t bother anyone in the face of

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that which you have to say maybe
what you can, that the play bothers

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you. But if you see that
they are working, then you say there

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is work, but you don'
t police shadows and you don' t

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see that nothing is going on behind
the opera. More that these works are

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also delivered, because what happens in
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that more than sixty- five percent
are delayed. And I give you a

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very concrete example. The works of
valorization should have been delivered a long time

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ago. We' re more than
four years late for delivery. Don mel

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wanted dctors connces good afternoon, Despite
the works, or with the works or

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without the works, The city has
collapsed in traffic and we have several governments

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looking for solutions. The great solution
of the world' s big capitals is

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an efficient, efficient, sufficient public
transport system, etcetera. But for that

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to happen in Bogotá it will take
at least two decades, if you do

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things right. Meanwhile, as we
continue to improvise with beak and plaque,

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we continue to think that castings are
the problem of TransMilenio, we continue to

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think that public transport must also have
restrictions. Motorcycles are increasingly occupying much more

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space and also generating very serious traffic
problems. In the end, then,

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man, I think that when you
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you have to ask for management and
you have to wait or not for

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a manager results. Today the traffic
in Bogotá is managing us and we have

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to get the traffic in Bogotá managed, how it is managed, etcetera.

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There' s a thing in Bogotá
called the CGT Transit Management Center. I

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think it' s badly inherited,
that we don' t have and don

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' t know by road axes,
how long we' re late in the

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tranch. But also, with the
new mayor, with the new mobility secretary,

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on those road axes, on those
road sections, the less we'

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re going to delay. If I
have the technology for that, today we

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have 200 cameras or so installed throughout
Bogotá. But, for example, we

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don' t use artificial intelligence,
for example, we don' t use

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better reporting cameras. Drones can also
work for what, to manage traffic.

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I dream for Bogotá. I proposed
it in my campaign by the Council of

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Bogotá. Many González are with us
in that and it is precisely that there

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is a proper traffic management that concentrates
on road sections, on road axes,

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to know how long we are delaying
today on those road axes and how we

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are going to improve those times.
Hello net, hello cargy how you'

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re taking care of the Albaena conce. Yes, he is the President of

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the Council of Bogotá, Juan Vaina
te Jodecito, yes, yes. I

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could one day be President of the
Council. You' d like to do

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politics too. Yeah, yeah.
I like to help people, well,

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but whenever we have guests, I
like it better when you' re as

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a journalist. Yeah, I'
d like to be a journalist, too.

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It' s gonna give you a
lot of piano change. We'

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re from the town of Suba.
We are talking about mobility of cities with

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capitals and the Council moving forward furry. Thank you, Gabriel. We'

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re here at the José Caldas Library
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You also carry a control of school
routes, because in my home to school

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they are very long. Yes,
we have found that children, but more

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people, because to see Bogotá is
said to be the third most congested city

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in the world of Latin America.
We have a lot of ranking where Bogotá

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is doing very badly. And that, of course, is suffered by children.

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The average of a Bogotá does not
wait in traffic is of hour and

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twenty, but sometimes we find people
who, for example, are waiting for

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the STP and stay forty minutes waiting
for the STP. And this is the

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time for the children who should share
with their parents, with their friends,

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who can work, who can study. Today that time, our children are

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losing it in the tranq, locked
in a bus and that is really inhuman

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for them. It' s just
that you know that Cocean pays that one.

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He doesn' t even do chores
on the bus because the lyrics are

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left to a pimp. On the
bus you don' t do the baby

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chores, why you leave them for
the bus. No. No, because

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it' s like an l trnn
does. Not there, but no,

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no, not in the morning.
Mom, it gets wild, because you

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don' t do the chores and
you do them on the cabriy bus not

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in the morning, but in the
afternoon you leave them to get ahead of

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you. Then you can' t
make them in the bufoque The lyrics look

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cool on you. Yeah, honest, it' s done in the homework.

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That' s where your retina drops. If you, they' re

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not there either. That' s
a little bit. The routine falls,

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the retina, not the routine either, and outside of that you move your

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cocheo as a taxi driver' s
perfit. But a judge of a doll

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says no better, don' t
do the homework. Wait there a little

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bit, but we' ll have
solutions when you get home. Now it

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' s time to go to bed
at lunch and to sleep and then the

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homework. You don' t see
that' s the problem. Oh yeah,

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I can' t imagine the problem
is that no. Rolando Billiard,

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President of Vaena, one of the
Council' s subjects. Non- resident

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of the Council. Of course not, but it is anything for the dignity

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of President or President Vaina. The
theme of the peak and plaque in Bogotá.

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The Mayor of Bogotá, Carlos Fernando
Galán, says they are studying a

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new model that could even bring it
back to the subject of a stripe where

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there is more congestion. But,
moreover, the problem in Bogotá is not

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only the vehicles to the number of
motor parks of motorcycles that continue to grow

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in cities like Bogotá without control,
in addition, that have no peak and

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plate, that have no restrictions,
the peak and plate the peak and plaque

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solidarity and the motorcycles in Bogotá is
increasing. Those three issues, as they

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are addressed in the Council. No
more or less than those three temites.

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It is easy easy, not two
three, about three and accurate to see

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the proliferation of motorcycles in Bogotá.
It is only the failure of the public

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transport system in our city. And
also, quite rightly, because today we

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have a public transport that is inhumane
for the Bogotans. Bogota today should have

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more than 200 kilometers of TransMilenio.
Today it reaches about a hundred kilometers after

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millet and that' s why we
invented a topic that is the beak and

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the beak and plate. But the
bill and plaque is simply to vote on

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it. The lota forward does not
solve the problem. Actually, the bill

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and plate is not a solution to
the problem. It is also a topic

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that has been invented in Latin American
cities, where there is peak and plaque.

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In other places, in other latitudes, it is to solve issues,

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for example, of environmental pollution,
because you do not solve mobility with immobility,

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the peak and plate is not being
able to pull out the cart certain

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three times almost half the time of
the week, in order to be able

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to walk in it. I'
m not a friend, the beak and

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badges. What does Galán say,
the gallant, the gala, the mayor.

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Galan is also the gallant Yes,
as you see it, s has

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good confidence the g Today on the
day of man and pyro dad my mayor,

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then Galan says that he does not
agree with the bill and plate,

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but he says that since Bogotá has
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He' s like the one who
says a necessary evil. If I agree,

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I don' t agree with the
badge beak. I think we should

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have that a vehicle restriction on environmental
issues. But why do we have that

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problem, of course because of the
delay that is decades ago in infrastructure in

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our city. The solidarity beak and
plaque likes how we can measure it that

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it can be turned off because it
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To me, the beak and plaque
solidarity I like for a reason and

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is that today Bogotá has about three
billion holes, a hole in the fet

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that produces us the TransMilenio, that
is, where we can get ticket works.

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The important thing is that notice for
the two thousand twenty- three the

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bill and solidarity plate Gabo collected us
approximately four hundred fifty billion pesos. When

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you have a hole of three billion
pesos, having a source of four hundred

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billion pesos is important what is the
problem that people are shutting down. Of

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course, the beak and plaque solidarity, then Bogotá is congested, then what

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do I think. I believe that
the solidarity bill and plaque is valuable,

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that we must continue to study it
and we must not study it. If

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we can charge a little more good
councilman Juan Vaina, we will return with

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you later, because there is a
good controversy about the Bogotá metro to talk

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in a few moments. Thank you
very much for having the opportunity today to

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live from the Lucern and tell the
Bogotans how this Council works in motion,

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how we go out to the localities
to tell them what is happening and how

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we live. Also that starting from
capitals, but we live it also with

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a little humor in the style of
fireflies from Medellín an old way, sir

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will not make us cry arrireto that
then similar practically today we will let it

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be the president of the Council of
Bogotá that decides if his joke is good

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or regular or bad. But that
skill is not an irresponsibility pressure yes,

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yes, responsibility and agreement and that
the company takes action. A ay ah

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well, No, then girdle.
Or not. No. No, no?

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Don' t you? Don'
t you? No. I also

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ask him for a lot of solidarity, because I do not, and I

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also have five coquitas to feed us. We also come public here then suddenly,

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if you applaud it, is that
the joke is good and you since

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you don' t, but but
already you go there already we go others

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how bad it is. And if
it' s a joke, it'

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s a bad one, then not
teasing. Not this one, too,

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is Chile. No. No,
no, no, no, no,

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my people listen to this it'
s crazy pratica my crazy milk people who

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the politician is baena, because that
my full is doing you or not,

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but that you were learning things for
sure. They' re talking about two

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friends, friends of whom, friends
of that yes, friends of whom the

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other one told me, because this
is bad. When the guy laughs before

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the joke. No. Don'
t you? Don' t you?

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Don' t you? Don'
t you? Don' t you?

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Don' t you? Don'
t you? Don' t you?

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Don' t you? Don'
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I quit ah but it was,
but it was a pattern. It

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' s very good, very good. As pere vera tells you, President

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of the Council, Bogotá. No, no, no. Not the pente,

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no, no. It' s
so much respect for the present.

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Not that this Quellos espera pattern wasn' t the same. You also respect

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him very much told me Haha,
then I made him a friend. The

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other is that man. Your wife
told me that they broke up for lack

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of communication and tells her friend,
ay jo, mother, how you do.

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We' re already separated. Hahaha, well, yeah, yeah,

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yeah? Yeah? Yeah, great
othal plague stuck out there Salt is Risa

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' s kooky. True bad,
good or good. He heard rita four

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forty- three in the firefly.
At Caracol Ran' s firefly I'

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m the hello voice. This is
Jairo Libreros, professor at the Universidad Externado

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de Colombia, and I am the
voice of those who agree with the dialogues

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with the Gulf Clan. The problem
is that it is neither clear nor precise

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in this exchange of the offer of
the House of Nariño and the acceptance of

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the Gulf Clan if these dialogues are
for a submission to justice or for a

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peace agreement. Some consider that the
only possible path is to bring justice,

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because that armed structure is not political, but criminal. They live on drug

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trafficking, the illicit trafficking of migrants
in illicit arms trafficking, extortion of the

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hit man, confinements and displacements.
On the other hand, others consider that

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they transformed their profile to be recognized
as an irregular army and advance a peace

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agreement. They are possessed of uniformed
and armed combatants. They are grouped into

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a central unit that makes command decisions
and exercises social control. The Gulf clan

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or the gaitanists, as they themselves
call themselves, have been clear in communicating

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the profile they claim to boast.
They present themselves as armed actors seeking political

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recognition to conclude a peace agreement and
if not, they claim the gaitanists will

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remain in arms. In a comparative
analysis, we will not find armed actors

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with political recognition who are not involved
in criminal acts. In the case of

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Colombia, the former FARK were linked
to drug trafficking, terrorism and a thousand

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other crimes. Today, the LN
is a grouping of Mafia nature. They

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are drug traffickers and commit a thousand
more crimes, and not to mention the

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dissidences of the Far Seans, those
of Mordisco or Marques are also pure narcos.

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In conclusion, if President Petro wants
to get the clan out of the

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Gulf, out of the equation,
out of violence, out of conflict,

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out of crime and solve the humanitarian
crisis suffered by thousands of Colombians subjected to

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the Gaitanists, he has only one
political path to negotiate a peace agreement,

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as he currently does with other politically
empowered armed structures and at a peace negotiating

406
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table they continue to engage in extortion, kidnapping, murder and drug trafficking.

407
00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:29.759
Gabriel of the houses is canco radio
well, follows the lucía, stripe in

408
00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:32.799
snail, Radio good the one that
is good. How we doing with the

409
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:37.160
new director of the National Planning Department, with Alexander Lopez. Few news we

410
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:45.039
' ve had of him few and
not so good. Not so good,

411
00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:52.039
because they are giving him up the
ones that one supposes are the most important

412
00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:59.279
men or officials in this case,
in particular, he resigns from deputy directors

413
00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:04.119
who have not given some explanations,
let' s say concrete, but he

414
00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:11.680
lets it be seen that López'
s arrival intends to surround himself with people

415
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:18.200
of his very high confidence and has
no idea of keeping officials some of them

416
00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:21.839
who come from past governments. That, of course, would have nothing strange

417
00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:26.400
if what comes is staff with a
high level of training. All right,

418
00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:30.920
the problem is that, according to
Alexander Lopez, not knowing mathematics, but

419
00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:37.039
knowing economics, is not a requirement
to manage the most important technical entity Colombia

420
00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:41.680
has, which is the National Planning
Department. I know it' s not

421
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the same and that in planning,
of course, the numbers have to do.

422
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:48.119
But notice how Carrillo came to do
a very good management, managing the

423
00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:52.319
national risk management unit, uncovering what
was there to start working on. Then

424
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I also think that there is in
one of these also the government in the

425
00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:59.799
mouth in front of those inexperienced appointments
with what Carrillo is doing. But the

426
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.240
Alexander Lopez case is clear because,
to see, they are two completely different

427
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:07.839
entities in their operation. The National
Risk Management Unit is responsible for the prevention

428
00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:14.440
and care of emergencies and is basically
an implementing entity. It has to be

429
00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:18.599
reacting to the speed of events and
must have, as Carrillo announces in this

430
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:22.400
case, absolute transparency, but,
of course, also to deal as quickly

431
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:26.240
as possible with emergencies, the emergencies
that the country has in the case of

432
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:32.640
planning. It is an entity that
is largely dedicated, as its name suggests,

433
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:37.200
to planning, to carrying out all
the technical task that the State needs.

434
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:42.240
It is a cross- cutting entity
across all ministries. No ministry is

435
00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:48.039
foreign to national planning and the national
Government itself, the Presidency, the President

436
00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:52.759
of the Republic, has in planning
the greatest technical support for all State policies,

437
00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:56.279
for the compas, for the confice, for the decisions that are made

438
00:30:56.359 --> 00:31:00.640
in terms of major projects, draft
laws, etc. All of that goes

439
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:03.920
through national planning. That is why
it requires people with the best experience,

440
00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:11.720
academic training skills, knowledge of the
economy, public administration, etc. So

441
00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:14.559
in this case, the challenge that
a person like Lexio André López has is

442
00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:18.160
much greater. They' re giving
up the deputy directors. Let' s

443
00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:22.599
hope it' s simple and simple. Indeed, of that normal relationship there

444
00:31:22.680 --> 00:31:26.920
is when it reaches a new head
or an entity. And in this case,

445
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:30.359
well, hopefully, it' s
not because Lopez wants to have people

446
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:33.839
who meet the same technical profile of
him, who don' t know either

447
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:37.680
economics or mathematics or calm already villa. I' m saying it' s

448
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:41.559
my fault. He said that a
little answering his question and we' ll

449
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.440
be getting to know details in the
coming weeks. But I had the opportunity

450
00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:51.599
to talk to one of those outgoing
directors who assures me that the professionals and

451
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:56.039
technicians are gone because there are beginning
to be indications in the entity that talks

452
00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:01.119
about planning with zero planning already anti- technics. There are instructions, as

453
00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:06.400
was the case at the time in
the Ministry of Finance and with the resigned

454
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:10.359
Director of Budget there that go against
what has already been studied of the technical

455
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:15.440
plans they have and what has already
been advanced in the field of studies and

456
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:20.559
others for the allocation of resources.
And there' s what it looks like

457
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:23.599
and so they didn' t want
to compromise the deputy directors who are starting

458
00:32:23.839 --> 00:32:25.640
to leave, because it' s
that they have to sign and that'

459
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:28.880
s them. It is they,
in the end, who respond and who

460
00:32:28.960 --> 00:32:30.880
are going to vacate the decisions.
They' re partners. What' s

461
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:36.000
going on in planning. What'
s going on there is pretty serious and

462
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:39.119
talk. We' ll have to
see what changes from what was left behind,

463
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:44.799
analyzed and studied to what Dr Alexander
Lock is beginning to authorize. That

464
00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:49.079
' s what we saw, Gabriel. Let us not forget that Jorge Van

465
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:52.000
González, the previous director, came
out in very bad terms with the petro

466
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:55.319
government. Of course not, and
doing exactly what they were asking you to

467
00:32:55.359 --> 00:33:00.839
do, you had antitechniques and resource
allocation where you shouldn' t go I

468
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:01.880
love all the things you didn'
t have. But that' s why

469
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:06.640
Alexander Lopez listened and knew how to
make that clear and I mention this,

470
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:09.160
because if Jorge Vangos, doing that
is what the national government is asking for,

471
00:33:09.519 --> 00:33:14.799
of course, and I mention it
also, Gabriel, because if González

472
00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:19.079
brought people of his confidence, because
those people became distrustful. For Luis Before

473
00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:23.240
Lopez is that when you sign it
will be that national planning is an impossible

474
00:33:23.319 --> 00:33:31.799
mission. Good afternoon, gin since
Alexander López arrived at the management of the

475
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:37.160
National Planning Department, there have been
several resignations of officials who had a technical

476
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:40.680
profile and had experience in fulfilling their
assigned functions. The most recent is the

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00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:44.960
resignation of three of the four deputy
directors of this entity. This is even

478
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:49.079
more worrying. If we remember Alexander
Lopez' s words when about his academic

479
00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:52.160
preparation, he confessed this. I' m not an economist, nor do

480
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:54.720
I aspire to do it, because
mathematics gave me very hard. The truth,

481
00:33:55.400 --> 00:33:59.640
being that the first route or the
first element or the first way to

482
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:02.880
walk. Your mission, Jim,
if you decide to accept it and don

483
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:07.400
' t give it to us,
is to get these officials to clear us

484
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:09.480
up and tell us what they want
to do with this great institution. As

485
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:13.239
always, if you or one of
the members of the force are arrested,

486
00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:17.000
we will come to know their actions. This disk will self- destruct in

487
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:29.760
five seconds. Good luck jin ay
I hope it' s not an impossible

488
00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:34.719
mission for the good of the country. A little humorous to the old camilo

489
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:46.239
dramar, sir don' t make
us cry, take down king had ea

490
00:34:46.679 --> 00:35:00.760
practically what. Ah well, no, no, no, no, no,

491
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:04.960
no, as already well, no, because here we are interpreting what

492
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:07.320
is being said. Not that.
No. I said no. I said

493
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:12.000
it clarititic. If we don'
t go to China, perfect keep perfect

494
00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:14.320
now if we don' t.
No. Another one here is already scratching

495
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:17.039
them too much san missing them.
If not others do too. Thank you

496
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:20.239
very much, Skipper. It'
s all about love. Yeah. What.

497
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:24.760
Besides, well let him see a
man who' s a little pair

498
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:30.599
in privacy? Careful man, a
little pair in privacy? What her name

499
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:31.639
was. For example, no.
No, no, no, pattern me,

500
00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:36.079
well, put names here right now
the truth. Or no, no,

501
00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:39.280
it' s not better not to
commit yourself. Nicole said no.

502
00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:44.800
You somen has been engaged five times. Better not commit. Experts take out

503
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:49.639
the body in committing ge you know
if you already know that and no and

504
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:57.280
tells him that it is better not
to compromise if this one and I did

505
00:35:57.400 --> 00:36:00.559
it to her I have not go
to think that I am Jorge was Jorge,

506
00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:04.960
It was called Jorge. Yeah,
yeah, don' t commit Jorge.

507
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:06.599
No, no, no, don' t commit to Jorge. Thanks,

508
00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:09.320
don' t commit, yeah,
thanks, yeah, you' re

509
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:14.760
gonna think I don' t joke. No one' s paying attention to

510
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:17.920
him. Yes, ah, thank
you, shovels in Sedaslo we promised,

511
00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:23.159
said Prof Cousins is that you will
not think that I am to make love

512
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:30.239
on the first date And then,
I stop not, because I already boba

513
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:38.000
almost already séajaja ya and that is
another anecdote aspaja today the newspaper of Risa

514
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:43.639
I think it hears not Ronzaneta,
yes, Montó or not. This jokes

515
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:51.559
to stories, i e, the
life of the right cha hears about me

516
00:36:51.719 --> 00:36:57.280
says about me Risa or is a
magic book. After command, he did

517
00:36:57.320 --> 00:37:10.440
a trick and lost his rido.
Diary dear, diaries goodbye don' t

518
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:19.920
look good. Yes, Gabriel de
las Casas, it' s charge,

519
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:23.679
lightning ec one goes to me,
Mr de las Casas, yes, sir

520
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:28.960
how you do. All right,
I' m really glad to say hello

521
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:32.400
today. Here is the Francisco José
de Caldas Public Library, town of Subo

522
00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:39.119
in Bogotá. Exactly this is where
the resistance against origar was lived to see

523
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:45.440
calm, good sir and the auditorium
is beautiful yes, very nice library as

524
00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:50.599
to make a fucking grou is called
focus group. No. It' s

525
00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:52.119
not focus group no. It is
not that good, yes and I will

526
00:37:52.239 --> 00:38:00.000
answer you not without first greeting the
cosmic ethnicity and the volca forces, no,

527
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:06.880
but responsible for the Antarctic thaw that
you are provoking. Yeah, but

528
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:09.559
we want to land a little more. Yes, and what we want to

529
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:14.199
talk about, for example, what
responds to the questions you asked the Gulf

530
00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:20.000
Plan to negotiate with the Government in
exchange for them to stop rattling. But

531
00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:27.119
what is important and what we really
want, which is the layout of the

532
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:29.920
first line of the metro. No, but we' re talking about rattling

533
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:36.599
the Gulf Can. But the subway
is important. It should be the communities

534
00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:42.519
themselves, for example up here to
do this work, which must be underground.

535
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:46.280
But those are things that matter.
They' d eat the gringos little

536
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:50.719
tigs, not lit pinks, little
pings, get small. Let us then

537
00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:53.280
talk about the reactions we continue to
hear. The proposal to convene a constituent

538
00:38:53.400 --> 00:39:00.880
national assembly with regard to is the
subway of Bogota should be Arab Monserrate hill,

539
00:39:01.639 --> 00:39:07.960
but to see and be the neighborhood
law if those who make these tunnels

540
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:13.079
is the constituent thing and we empower
the masses as we saw it in that,

541
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:16.239
as it is called the ga most
Game of Thrones series, the people

542
00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:20.920
take power, eh don' t
come. Let' s move on.

543
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:23.480
So, Mr President, if you
think it is appropriate to compare and put

544
00:39:23.559 --> 00:39:28.199
the budgets of the Tollo tunnel and
the Urabalso regional aqueduct in one bag,

545
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:32.440
it was a slap for the people
of Antioquia, because these tunnels have to

546
00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:38.960
flow into the first line of the
metro. Note that it has to be

547
00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:43.519
sawing. Well, yes, but
a word to the peasants. But the

548
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:50.239
nua is Bogotá' s subway.
That can be done by the communal action

549
00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:55.000
boards, not the comelito yupis engineers
who go to the universities and graduate.

550
00:39:55.719 --> 00:39:59.920
Not that. And I' m
going to invite mancuso to my office.

551
00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:06.960
Ah yes, you go break the
virus of life with the stars. Good

552
00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:10.880
universe. Well, well, thank
you, President. Okay. A lot

553
00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:15.079
of unfinished business where I wanted Hector
from the President. A lot of unfinished

554
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:22.199
business, Gabriel, The country has
pressing security needs. There are also difficult

555
00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:29.440
situations due to the imminence of problems
in the supply of electricity, but in

556
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:32.559
reservoirs they are at levels that are
already of concern to the sector, to

557
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:36.519
the market. But I want to
remain in a reaction from the President or

558
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:38.400
in a few words from the President. Stop rattling on the Gulf plan.

559
00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:45.360
Gulf Yes, Gabriel, the great
Gulf that they call themselves self- defense

560
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:50.719
gaitanists in the spirit of political character. It is undoubtedly an organization that finances

561
00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:53.639
drug trafficking for the most part,
but it is an organization that has also

562
00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:59.159
gained a lot of power. For
several years it was run by alias Otoniel,

563
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:02.159
who today is in a United States
lime and who originated, like many

564
00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:07.519
other criminal groups in drug trafficking gangs
in hit men' s groups, but

565
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:13.320
who was strengthening and gaining territorial control
to such an extent that today that Gulf

566
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:20.679
clan, or also called Drug cartel, has a presence in most areas,

567
00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:27.400
especially the Pacific and the Atlantic Coast. But it is also the group,

568
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:31.719
according to information from security agencies,
which has the largest number of armed people,

569
00:41:32.360 --> 00:41:38.119
integrating this group well above, even
from the National Liberation Army itself.

570
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:45.480
That is why they believe that they
can gain political space to discuss with the

571
00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:50.280
Government and came up with one of
the phrases that the President said yesterday about

572
00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:54.960
opening the door to negotiation, that
this is a higher phase of a peace

573
00:41:55.159 --> 00:42:00.039
process. First, they go dialogues, approaches, sit down a little,

574
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:06.920
designate delegates, etcetera. And then
comes the negotiation, because that is the

575
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:10.199
highlight where they determine what they will
receive or what they will offer, as

576
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:15.360
happened with the FARK in Havana now. But they took this with all confidence

577
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:21.000
and said so now. I add
that expression to stop rattling. Not only

578
00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:23.440
does it stay with this Gulf clan, it really stays that the guerrillas stopped

579
00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:30.400
doing that romantic struggle of the sixties
and seventies and we have been rattling for

580
00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:36.000
a long time. He rattled to
use that word of the President, at

581
00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:40.360
least since the eighties Gabriel, when
drug trafficking expanded. And if anything has

582
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:46.639
served as ammunition powder for this endless
war in the country it is precisely drug

583
00:42:47.039 --> 00:42:52.159
trafficking and all the criminal groups themselves
have used it and have derived enormous resources

584
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:57.280
for it. But it' s
the first time Petro' s told a

585
00:42:57.480 --> 00:43:01.559
group to stop rattling, stop using
narcotraffic. I should just tell LN he

586
00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:06.079
gets a lot of money at Catatumbo. It should be just the fart that

587
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:09.000
gets a lot of money in Putumayo, in Amazonas, in the Department of

588
00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:15.360
Cauca, in Nariño, the two
factions hurt you All criminal groups are funded

589
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:17.519
by drug trafficking for the most part. It seems to me that this message,

590
00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:22.039
I hope, extends it to those
other groups. Orlando Billiard Gabriel,

591
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:24.880
Yes, a clarity that you make
here on this point, because it is

592
00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:30.840
very different the approach that President Gustavo
Petro makes to the guerrillas, for example,

593
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:35.719
from lln another also that is made
with the Dissidences, that will see

594
00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:40.480
established a legal framework to see how
they demobilize or how they surrender the weapons

595
00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:45.440
when they have already done so and
abandoned the peace process. And another connotation

596
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:49.880
is that of these armed groups that
require a legal framework so that they can

597
00:43:49.880 --> 00:43:52.880
benefit from a subjugation law. There
it is clear that it is required that

598
00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:58.360
the national government then raised in the
Congress of the Republic what this law of

599
00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:02.280
subjection would be like in the face
of crime. What capital they are going

600
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:07.039
to deliver or what capital they are
going to maintain at some point and their

601
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:13.119
commitment, of course, to dismantle
those gears of drug trafficking. The Group

602
00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:17.960
responded by saying that it welcomes and
is then willing to negotiate with the President,

603
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:22.599
Gustavo Petro, with the Government.
But Gabriel, that' s where

604
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:24.719
they' re starting to ignore the
crimes. They say neither that they are

605
00:44:25.199 --> 00:44:30.480
responsible for the phenomenon of drug trafficking
nor that they took it and that at

606
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:35.480
this moment they charge tolls for grammage
and some things like some kind of taxes

607
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:38.800
around the business, but that they
are not the direct ones then responsible for

608
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:42.119
the chains of drug trafficking in place. Well, then, let them stop

609
00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:59.039
rattling, as the President says,
and say so, whirlwind and wegense spectra,

610
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:07.039
gentlemen, that from entering into cartels
and traficing my big ones so that

611
00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:16.400
they can have dialogues they sit down
and the plantel beat him he replies that

612
00:45:16.599 --> 00:45:29.559
I are nuns that nothing takes away
what good business it is to be naughty,

613
00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:39.719
but it is better to be dialogue
with the Government and have the region

614
00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:54.559
pray to keep in charge, because
the conditions have put and aleqsito is so

615
00:45:54.559 --> 00:46:00.159
manicating a lot of blood and pain. They' ve cost negotiation and fire.

616
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:13.400
The legne and the dissidences strengthen their
traqueto action that also demand the same

617
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:24.440
and without lowering the guar die gobino
well teach us in the Lucía Nacá,

618
00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:29.360
in Caracol, in excellence. We
are with the Council on the move and

619
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:32.559
we are also with capitals, because
a special project has been launched focused on

620
00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:37.519
the citizens of the Colombian capitals and
has the support and support of the emitters

621
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:42.159
of the PRISA Group and Caracol Radio, Los María Zapatas of the executive director

622
00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:45.039
of azo Capitales and accompanies us again
in the Lucia de Nogalus. Maria,

623
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:47.199
welcome, how are you? Hello. I am happy to be here every

624
00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:52.920
time they invite me and we,
well, and we are happy to be

625
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:55.400
able to have good news, always
for Colombians, that, in addition to

626
00:46:55.480 --> 00:47:00.440
Colombians feeling that there are a few
capitals that work directly, because, like

627
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:04.079
their name, they say them with
mayors, with city councils, in favor

628
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:07.559
of the good that needs to be
done in this country and the important challenges

629
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:10.199
that we have on this occasion,
because we are in Bogotá, in the

630
00:47:10.280 --> 00:47:15.760
locality of Suba, precisely because we
have dedicated the program to talk about mobility

631
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:20.280
of Mayavial, of what we have
to do. Where this movement of capital

632
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:23.119
azo goes in the Marys. The
first thing I have to say to you

633
00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:30.280
is that I come from our Ordinary
Assembly. Today it took place and all

634
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:37.000
the mayors sympathized with the Galan Mayor
and his position in front of the Bogotá

635
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:44.039
Metro. Or so let' s
say that this respectful call to the national

636
00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:50.360
Government let' s look ahead,
this is already a process that is under

637
00:47:50.480 --> 00:47:53.599
way and let' s no longer
look at the second phase, which is

638
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:59.400
coming to be underground. What possibility
do you feel precisely of this meeting that

639
00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:02.400
you can turn diab what we have
today of the metro already operating, not

640
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:06.320
working but in works I mean,
well, then, possibility of torpedoing.

641
00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:10.480
There is everything, but it is
this respectful appeal to the national government,

642
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:19.519
to President Petro that we look forward
to, that already let us say this

643
00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:25.079
is a contract that is being executed
and I believe that all Colombians would recognize

644
00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:29.760
President Petro very much. Yes,
rather we think about how we are going

645
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:35.199
to finance, that a funded part
is already coming, but how we are

646
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:38.760
going to finish concreteizing the second line
of the underground metro, like what was

647
00:48:38.840 --> 00:48:44.119
the President, is that we have
to work together, how you weased that

648
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:47.000
alliance that we have to do in
this case, when we are talking about

649
00:48:47.519 --> 00:48:51.480
mobility of maya road, is this
that we have to do with the Ministry

650
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:54.400
of Transport, of course, with
hacienda, with the local mayors, with

651
00:48:54.400 --> 00:49:00.039
the municipal councils. How to work
orderly this year. Well me, as

652
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:06.480
I see the temperature going up every
day more. I believe that the first

653
00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:13.679
thing we have to do is always
talk respectfully within these diversities and I do

654
00:49:14.079 --> 00:49:17.159
not know how to reach consensus.
Gabriel, I mean, I' m

655
00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:22.199
very much about reaching consensus. And
well, facing the challenges of mobility in

656
00:49:23.480 --> 00:49:30.039
Bogotá, because I think Councilman Baena
talked a lot about it and I,

657
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:35.079
because I am not an expert on
that issue. Okay, but you see,

658
00:49:35.679 --> 00:49:39.360
we' re talking about how to
make alliances to improve road safety and

659
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:43.519
drive this forward. We' re
talking about that in two thousand twenty-

660
00:49:43.639 --> 00:49:46.719
three more than eight thousand four hundred
people died on the way to the country,

661
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:50.360
it' s an increase of two
percent. Faced with this, what

662
00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:52.920
they have planned to do from their
capitals with the National Road Safety Agency in

663
00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:57.760
Colombia, not in that. That
yes, it is a huge concern of

664
00:49:58.159 --> 00:50:05.800
ours that we are going to face
that road safety and accidentality challenge. We

665
00:50:06.000 --> 00:50:13.159
have a job with the University of
the Andes and we also have a seat

666
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:20.920
on the Road Security Council. What
happens is that that necessarily is like a

667
00:50:21.199 --> 00:50:23.599
lot of education, like, please, let' s not get on the

668
00:50:23.880 --> 00:50:35.360
cars and on the bikes with some
swallows on top, because let' s

669
00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:37.000
say we also have to put a
lot on the side. I believe that

670
00:50:37.079 --> 00:50:42.159
the work that was being done with
the Guardian Angel has been left behind and

671
00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:46.199
in all of them I have felt
like training the safety standards. And all

672
00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:51.840
that because they forgot exactly that it
is citizen culture in the end and also,

673
00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:54.679
citizen culture that helps us to order
traffic, two, to have more

674
00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:59.440
orderly cities, but in the end, that citizen culture is in favor of

675
00:50:59.480 --> 00:51:01.239
our well- being, our health
and our life. In the end,

676
00:51:02.039 --> 00:51:07.159
look at me right now, I
started doing a master' s degree in

677
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:12.599
emotional intelligence, because we need her
here. In other programs, then we

678
00:51:13.159 --> 00:51:17.559
excite everything artificial, because there is
no good artificial intelligence. If she'

679
00:51:17.559 --> 00:51:22.400
s scared of me, I mean, if we say the emotional one,

680
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:22.440
we' re missing the artificial one. Yeah, it scares me. But

681
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:27.559
good going back to that topic and
why I got into the issue of emotional

682
00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:32.559
intelligence, because I believe that every
human being, every Colombian, from the

683
00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:38.280
personal, from the particular, we
have to start to improve so that later,

684
00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:45.039
as a collective, we can be
better. I have an idea and

685
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:49.119
let' s see if, after
the master' s degree I can have

686
00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:52.360
it and that the peace of Colombia
goes through the mental health of Colombians.

687
00:51:53.320 --> 00:52:00.239
This you can negotiate all peace processes. You can tell the victims that they

688
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:05.920
' re going to pray economically.
But it turns out that if we,

689
00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:10.800
as a collective, do not heal, we do not have good mental health,

690
00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:14.360
peace in Colombia does not exist for
the will of towers. Doctor of

691
00:52:14.440 --> 00:52:19.679
Light Mary. Several years ago,
there was talk of strategic transport system projects

692
00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:24.880
for intermediate cities. After the TransMilenio
de Bogotá, mine in Cali of what

693
00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:29.400
happens in Medellín, in Barranquilla,
in Bucaramanga, there is a big plan

694
00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:35.400
for intermediate cities like Cúcuta, Montería
Neiva. That you are promoting with the

695
00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:38.039
Ministry of Transport what feasibility there is
short or medium term that that is finally

696
00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:44.039
real, that you are giving up
many years ago. Yeah, well then.

697
00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:47.559
I would very much like for people
to understand that there are integrated systems

698
00:52:47.960 --> 00:52:53.920
that are already present in seven more
capital cities, the strategic systems that are

699
00:52:54.119 --> 00:53:01.000
being designed in some of our capital
cities are seven plus eight are exactly chince,

700
00:53:02.360 --> 00:53:07.920
so what happens. For example,
today with the integrateds. We are

701
00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:15.840
once again in the dilemma of how
we will finance those. Let' s

702
00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:20.559
say financial problems that everyone but Pereira
has. I have to say that Pereira

703
00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:28.480
has a point of equilibrium as an
integrated system. We set up an accidental

704
00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:34.880
commission that will operate on Wednesday,
April, in the Congress of the Republic,

705
00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:39.800
because what we want is to give
a general solution to the issues of

706
00:53:39.920 --> 00:53:45.320
the great problems and challenges facing the
integrated systems. And, of course,

707
00:53:45.599 --> 00:53:51.559
because also within the Commission, we
will have to look at what we are

708
00:53:51.639 --> 00:53:55.800
going to do, what we are
going to do with the strategies that you

709
00:53:55.800 --> 00:54:00.199
say about the eight additional cities.
So, we come working nns. We

710
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:06.800
have a lot of hope for that
accidental Commission to be able to find a

711
00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:08.760
solution and not be there every year, because, of course, this year

712
00:54:08.880 --> 00:54:10.960
we are going to have to ask
for the billion pesos again. President Duke

713
00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:19.840
already gave us a billion. After
President Petro' s presidency has also given

714
00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:23.079
us another billion and I believe that
this year we will have to knock on

715
00:54:23.320 --> 00:54:30.480
the door to help us with another
billion and, as a result, look

716
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:36.360
at the basic solutions that the Western
Commission, Orlando Billar, Dr Luz Maria,

717
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:38.880
may have, you talk about knocking
on the door now. Precisely this

718
00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:44.679
relationship with President Gustavo Petro, in
some sectors has been achieved through Laura Sarabia.

719
00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:47.800
How has it been for you with
this dialogue with President Gustavo Petro,

720
00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:52.599
especially at times when there is concern
in regions such as Antioquia, in Medellín,

721
00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:58.400
in other cities where, as in
Bogotá, some conditioning is put in

722
00:54:58.440 --> 00:55:04.119
place and it seems that strategic projects
where the national government has participation may be

723
00:55:04.239 --> 00:55:07.519
at risk conditioned. How are they
doing with that dialogue? Look The truth

724
00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:13.760
is that we have a fluid dialogue
with Dr Laura Sarabia and I always advocate

725
00:55:13.960 --> 00:55:17.760
for every one of my capital cities. I think it would be wrong for

726
00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:24.079
the national government to have preferences for
some region or other. President Petro is

727
00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:30.039
the President of all Colombians and I
believe that he should act in this way

728
00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:35.159
with Dr Laura, because, as
I say to her she always listens to

729
00:55:35.199 --> 00:55:39.119
us, they welcome us as much
as possible, and I, from capitals.

730
00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:43.840
Of course, there are two issues
that I am clear about. First,

731
00:55:44.440 --> 00:55:49.760
the country' s institutionality is respected. We are the institutionality in the

732
00:55:49.840 --> 00:55:54.039
capital cities and, secondly, in
any case, from the territories we cannot

733
00:55:54.119 --> 00:56:00.480
do it alone, so we have
to build with the national government that notice

734
00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:02.760
that the dialogue that we are talking
about a character that has become as important

735
00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:07.199
as Laura. Sarabia is also doing
with the country' s big business.

736
00:56:07.320 --> 00:56:09.599
It' s a construction that has
to be everyone' s. Yeah,

737
00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:15.840
that' s right, and the
truth is she' s a great articulator,

738
00:56:17.199 --> 00:56:20.280
maybe right now in national planning.
With the arrival of Alex Lopez,

739
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:22.880
we will also have a great ally, which is Paula Moreno, who will

740
00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:30.079
be the new director of territorial development. And I, in Paula, identify

741
00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:36.599
as that same talent of Laura to
open spaces, to create consensus. So

742
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:39.400
look at today' s Men'
s Day, I, as a woman,

743
00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:45.519
have the hopes set on two women
in this government, because I am

744
00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:47.400
going to celebrate. I remembered Men' s Day, or congratulations he made

745
00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:52.480
them. He only talked about the
women Hi, baby. How are you,

746
00:56:52.000 --> 00:56:55.599
Carris? How are you doing?
I' m glad to be here

747
00:56:55.639 --> 00:57:00.239
with all that news. You know
Luds Maria Zapatas Yes, we' ve

748
00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:02.840
already had it here on the show. We have a friend named Jose Maria

749
00:57:02.960 --> 00:57:06.039
and we' re friends. Ah, they' re friends. Yeah,

750
00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:12.280
that' s good, yeah,
I have a poetry for the Marys really.

751
00:57:12.360 --> 00:57:15.000
You did it to her capital and
Maria Zapata did it, with the

752
00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:20.000
trancon. The Mary sometimes rubs them
to the children of the trancon, so

753
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:23.880
she says to the one, to
the four and to the eight. Rana

754
00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:30.719
Rindin' s son was very stiff
and very nice this morning. He found

755
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:37.360
thongs and a vandalized car. It
took so long he didn' t go

756
00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:43.159
to work, boy. Mom yells
at us that it' s very difficult.

757
00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:46.599
There' s nowhere to walk Tin
Tin from naquajo to jo on the

758
00:57:47.119 --> 00:57:53.119
way to an old friend and then
he told him let' s walk together

759
00:57:53.280 --> 00:58:00.519
that this takes time and that trancón
we go three hours lind de naquajo runs

760
00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:04.559
away or three to his house almost
crying. He left this morning and they

761
00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:09.440
haven' t come back. That' s why you haven' t arrived.

762
00:58:09.719 --> 00:58:21.440
Baby prose, yes, the girl, yes, two days on now.

763
00:58:21.639 --> 00:58:25.440
First you can, of course,
Baby. I mean the Galan Mayor

764
00:58:25.599 --> 00:58:30.440
is working to improve the mobility of
this city and I assure you that he

765
00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:36.000
will achieve it then the next time
the Luciana comes here. I hope you

766
00:58:36.079 --> 00:58:43.119
have another poem about how traffic is
flowing in Bogotá and it will be reached

767
00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:46.480
by the four years old. Sure, he' s got the batteries on

768
00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:51.000
or he wouldn' t do it
babyish. Excuse me. You had a

769
00:58:51.079 --> 00:58:53.760
board of directors of az or capitals
today. There were the main reaches Ordinary

770
00:58:53.760 --> 00:58:58.679
Employee, Ordinary Assembly. Yes,
ma' am, tell you about the

771
00:58:58.679 --> 00:59:04.239
Constituent. No, while I'
m not, I mean to see,

772
00:59:04.440 --> 00:59:08.639
I don' t know what gifts
or her. I' ll tell you

773
00:59:08.920 --> 00:59:14.920
that there was a moment, there
was the Ordinary Assembly and then the mayors

774
00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:17.400
stayed in a space deliberating on their
own. I have no idea that the

775
00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:22.760
mayors spoke alone, but within the
framework of the ordinary Assembly we are not

776
00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:30.320
talking about the Constituent Assembly. Yeah, but I, personally my particular point,

777
00:59:31.280 --> 00:59:35.760
I think we shouldn' t wear
out on that. I mean,

778
00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:40.280
this country works well. The Constitution
of the 1990s is a good Constitution and

779
00:59:42.440 --> 00:59:47.039
I believe very much in the institutions
of this country. I think this country

780
00:59:47.119 --> 00:59:53.679
is very wise. Look at how
we have a progressive government and now we

781
00:59:53.719 --> 00:59:57.840
have central, center right mayors,
and those balances are very positive. I

782
00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:02.880
think in a democracy then let'
s say we didn' t touch within

783
01:00:02.880 --> 01:00:05.800
the space we were. We don' t touch on that. And it

784
01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:08.920
' s about her staying in identity
as executive director. You have a period

785
01:00:09.199 --> 01:00:14.880
of faith I have a period of
two thousand twenty- six June of two

786
01:00:14.960 --> 01:00:17.480
thousand twenty- six, but there
will be some mayor who, I don

787
01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:21.960
' t know, I do.
Placed in the Assemblies you always have one

788
01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:25.679
or two people who don' t
want one. I just say my job

789
01:00:27.039 --> 01:00:30.119
as director of those capitals speaks for
myself and who doesn' t want it.

790
01:00:31.039 --> 01:00:36.679
Two thousand would like to see because
he already said that there were one

791
01:00:36.760 --> 01:00:37.840
or two people and they are some, but there always are. I'

792
01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:42.760
m not gonna talk to you anymore. Let us say about the privacy of

793
01:00:42.760 --> 01:00:49.920
the Assembly, but believe me that
of the mayors who came out there was

794
01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:52.880
always one who disagrees, and that
is valid, is that one cannot have

795
01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:58.639
unanimity. Moreover, those mayors who
are always questioning one, are the ones

796
01:00:58.840 --> 01:01:01.199
who most motivate one month to be
better, to do this job, so

797
01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:07.840
that to their capitals today it is
the center of thought of the mayors of

798
01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:15.400
capital cities the most respected. We
are respected by Congress, consulted by all

799
01:01:15.519 --> 01:01:21.719
legislative units. Every time we deal
with a bill through the Courts, we

800
01:01:21.880 --> 01:01:30.760
also receive requests every day for interventions
from our fabulous legal management. So the

801
01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:37.000
truth is, I respect each other' s position. It' s a

802
01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:42.119
normal game. Look I' ve
been in departmental liquor stores for fourteen years

803
01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:46.320
and almost six years in the capitals, and every year it' s assemblies

804
01:01:46.360 --> 01:01:51.559
and every year it' s the
same. Well, then. Finally,

805
01:01:52.119 --> 01:01:55.079
Luis María Zapata, the executive director
or capitals, how you notice this moment,

806
01:01:55.480 --> 01:02:00.719
among the different mayors of the whole
country, in sharing knowledge, in

807
01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:06.039
talking in dialogues, in sharing good
practices so that they can be taken to

808
01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:12.400
other cities. There is work harmony
between capitals and I, as executive director,

809
01:02:12.920 --> 01:02:20.960
have always acted so that all mayors, we work together, that we

810
01:02:21.079 --> 01:02:25.519
complement each other, that it is
a collaborative, constructive dialogue. And that

811
01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:32.760
is why, as Executive Director,
we came to have a President like President

812
01:02:32.840 --> 01:02:37.320
Duque, with some mayors of center, center left and we function and work

813
01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:43.920
very well and let' s say
we meet challenges like covid nineteen. And

814
01:02:44.039 --> 01:02:47.760
now we have a progressive government with
these center, center right mayors. And

815
01:02:49.159 --> 01:02:53.760
so the work will remain the same
as always the dialogue is constructive, because

816
01:02:53.880 --> 01:03:01.880
ultimately we have to think about the
citizen. So I' m not calm

817
01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:07.239
and I think we' re getting
to know each other anyway we' re

818
01:03:07.239 --> 01:03:10.760
starting. It is a process of
getting to know us and I believe,

819
01:03:12.599 --> 01:03:19.760
therefore, that the decision to postpone
the election of the Board and the Vice

820
01:03:20.599 --> 01:03:24.400
- Presidential Presidency and Secretariat of the
Board, is good so that they have

821
01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:30.000
had their space to talk, to
dialogue, to get to know each other

822
01:03:30.199 --> 01:03:36.599
and we hope that in the extraordinary
Assembly, we will have a board of

823
01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:39.320
directors that will meet the challenge,
because from an average hurry, from all

824
01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:42.360
our media, from radio, from
digital, as always, we want to

825
01:03:42.360 --> 01:03:44.480
support the construction of the country.
That is why, precisely today, we

826
01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:47.039
are with the Council of Bogotá,
with this Council in motion, as the

827
01:03:47.159 --> 01:03:52.239
Councillor said to us, to pass
through all the localities, because note that,

828
01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:55.199
while we are talking about capitals,
the localities that have the great capitals

829
01:03:55.360 --> 01:04:00.559
of our country, it is very
important to get to it and for that

830
01:04:00.639 --> 01:04:04.599
reason our support also from the Lucia
Rnaga, friends and you always with tributes

831
01:04:04.599 --> 01:04:06.880
also clear capitals to Zapata. We
come down here for that, to fill

832
01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:14.960
these moments with encouragement with the authors
and how it will fill this moment with

833
01:04:14.960 --> 01:04:16.719
encouragement. Well, first of all
of two, the first giving one as

834
01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:23.079
a hint or one with which a
respectful insinuation to improve mobility, for example,

835
01:04:23.159 --> 01:04:28.320
first take advantage that we are in
the library, give books, deliver

836
01:04:29.119 --> 01:04:31.960
books, in the trancons. All
of a sudden that can be to look

837
01:04:32.039 --> 01:04:36.800
good the bo let' s leave
it that way, and also the business

838
01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:41.119
trancon that they call is that business
trancoln which is that people who have things

839
01:04:41.159 --> 01:04:43.280
to sell or something that place the
warnings on the back of the viruses,

840
01:04:43.599 --> 01:04:46.400
and the people who go back then
call and they put to dialogues alcohorismo.

841
01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:51.039
Okay, all right, this and
people can be. Don' t give

842
01:04:51.400 --> 01:04:56.800
us the endeavors we call. There
are no ventures, but we' ve

843
01:04:56.880 --> 01:05:00.360
made our own chaparroa librettist created this
retahila with just the word MM. For

844
01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:03.480
you fear mobility is that it has
to see today, which is one of

845
01:05:03.559 --> 01:05:08.679
the issues that we have. So
it says massive mobility nine mature minds.

846
01:05:08.760 --> 01:05:15.599
Let us move, improve, mature, maintain massive improvements, marching meticulously and

847
01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:19.679
murmuring, meditate, look, mobilize
better. Margarita Vireya, Marta, Maryori

848
01:05:19.679 --> 01:05:25.000
and Mercedes Milena deserve more mobility,
minors, minors, waiters, magistrates,

849
01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:30.199
doctors, mechanics, musicians, beggars, let' s marvel at moving carefully

850
01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:34.920
that nice good and salty medill in
Monterian Moigreño. Let' s monumentally multiply

851
01:05:35.039 --> 01:05:47.840
magical looks as we move metropolises,
mention merits, masterly modify mobility mmmmmm memos

852
01:05:47.840 --> 01:05:49.679
menja applaud him. I' m
sorry about that one. We' ve

853
01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:53.719
been on the Garry Pensalaus bul Yo
program. That applause wasn' t on.

854
01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:56.079
It is Maria Zapata a thousand thanks
for being in the Luchern and,

855
01:05:56.400 --> 01:06:00.440
as always, our support in everything
that is building a country, reaching out

856
01:06:00.719 --> 01:06:03.719
to the concensos and, above all, also transmitting to the people, to

857
01:06:03.840 --> 01:06:09.679
the Colombian of the ordinary that we
are a fundamental part in all the transformations

858
01:06:09.679 --> 01:06:11.719
and in all this construction. Efet
had a joke for the doctor in the

859
01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:15.840
end, so she threw it away. If at the end of it,

860
01:06:16.199 --> 01:06:21.159
imagine it was coming in the middle
of the tranch and everything, and two

861
01:06:21.239 --> 01:06:24.559
well- kept cars crashed. There
are two cars and one of the cars

862
01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:28.960
was leaving a very nice woman,
like who, like the doctor, a

863
01:06:29.920 --> 01:06:33.400
very beautiful and very beautiful one and
she got off if she got down there

864
01:06:33.440 --> 01:06:38.360
and the kind of one that crashed
with her, and woe that I don

865
01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:42.000
' t scare, just as pretty
women spoke, and that scared And the

866
01:06:42.320 --> 01:06:46.159
guy also gets down as nervous and
hears if really not that star so verraca

867
01:06:46.239 --> 01:06:48.360
and the year work like a bottle
of spirit and gaulite. Oh no,

868
01:06:48.480 --> 01:06:53.360
I think it' s scary.
I gave him a drink to calm us

869
01:06:53.559 --> 01:06:56.639
down if clear and as he saw
it pretty, the guy if sure,

870
01:06:57.119 --> 01:07:00.000
I think the pinsó in something more
careful, sure jump, then he said.

871
01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:02.639
That' s how we had a
drink, the clear guy that yes,

872
01:07:03.079 --> 01:07:05.760
in fact, we' re alive. Let' s celebrate that we

873
01:07:05.760 --> 01:07:08.760
' re alive. We crashed,
but we' re alive. And today

874
01:07:08.800 --> 01:07:12.639
to the man let' s have
a drink and the guy sent out a

875
01:07:12.679 --> 01:07:15.679
pretty much every good root, yeah, and you said no. I do

876
01:07:15.880 --> 01:07:21.199
not take I wait the police jajajaja
comparía a thousand Thank you for accompanying us

877
01:07:21.199 --> 01:07:30.519
as always here in the Lucierna Galla, are capitals you are, the Luciéraga

878
01:07:30.639 --> 01:07:40.519
of Caracol Radio you see the stranger
of reality fío, the Lucien naga San

879
01:07:40.800 --> 01:07:43.960
Gabriel of the houses is Caracol Radio. All right, we' re still

880
01:07:43.960 --> 01:07:46.480
here at the Luciernaga on Caracol Radio. It is good that we are talking

881
01:07:46.599 --> 01:07:51.039
today with the Council on the move, knowing a little from the localities that

882
01:07:51.119 --> 01:07:55.840
is happening in Bogotá and that are
doing its rulers, the Mayor and the

883
01:07:55.920 --> 01:08:00.719
Council on the move today from the
public library Francisco José de Caldas in his

884
01:08:00.800 --> 01:08:03.039
ban with capitals Dr Juan Fernando Cristo. I' m glad you accompanied us

885
01:08:03.039 --> 01:08:06.559
here today, too. Yeah,
Gabriel, good afternoon, how' s

886
01:08:06.719 --> 01:08:11.639
Touche Catoche doing? Yes, sir, we are talking about mobility, we

887
01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:15.000
are here how you feel there is
mobility. Well, we said two things

888
01:08:15.640 --> 01:08:19.039
earlier, Mayor Claudia Lopez, they
said if they want works, because there

889
01:08:19.119 --> 01:08:23.439
' s going to be discomfort.
The works cause discomfort. What, oh

890
01:08:23.560 --> 01:08:26.840
brother, what a woo it is
that no discomforts. Yes, yes,

891
01:08:26.920 --> 01:08:30.039
yes, but let' s also
talk to Councilman Baena about how much delay

892
01:08:30.079 --> 01:08:32.359
there is in the works how much
work is being done, because sometimes we

893
01:08:32.800 --> 01:08:35.680
see cop shadows and we don'
t see more work gas. But,

894
01:08:35.960 --> 01:08:43.000
well, there we are moving here, yes, of course, but we

895
01:08:43.000 --> 01:08:45.399
all have to copy, operate.
Yes, yes, so, please,

896
01:08:45.800 --> 01:08:51.159
because CONS every God we end up
is all shitting a responsibility can double responsibilities.

897
01:08:53.199 --> 01:08:57.359
Yeah, yeah. The idea is
that we all shit is the burden

898
01:08:58.079 --> 01:09:02.600
of helping mobility and having a little
patience. And if that, if we

899
01:09:02.680 --> 01:09:08.880
all need the exact patience and sometimes, for example, the proper use of

900
01:09:09.039 --> 01:09:13.880
gabriel shit, the exact cart.
If, for example, you can make

901
01:09:13.960 --> 01:09:17.159
your own beak and gadiel plate so
that you don' t expect it to

902
01:09:17.279 --> 01:09:20.159
be the city that puts your beak
and plates I master of geve, for

903
01:09:20.159 --> 01:09:23.720
example, the use of shit.
How another would do it, for example,

904
01:09:24.960 --> 01:09:29.840
Monday shit and mates don' t
shit, I mean it does that

905
01:09:29.880 --> 01:09:32.920
is the use of the car.
The exact fuck is Monday, I'

906
01:09:32.960 --> 01:09:35.920
m talking about my case in your
case. In my case, for example,

907
01:09:35.960 --> 01:09:40.079
Monday shit and mates no shit and
Wednesday he' s shit yeah,

908
01:09:40.520 --> 01:09:43.840
and Thursday no shit, Gaby and
Friday and shit Gabriel and the weekend,

909
01:09:44.359 --> 01:09:46.880
at the weekend also shit Gabs the
weekend also to go out one at a

910
01:09:46.920 --> 01:09:58.640
time with the family, exactly yourself. The use of cars is being moderated,

911
01:09:59.000 --> 01:10:02.600
Gabri is being modified and yes.
And so we all go the same

912
01:10:02.680 --> 01:10:06.239
way. And we' re not
loose eggs. Gabrielas already crazy and you

913
01:10:06.319 --> 01:10:13.439
that day makes that car no longer
pass wey is that not I ah by

914
01:10:13.760 --> 01:10:17.960
potosi ay ah bad, because that
crazy one always likes to walk on two

915
01:10:18.039 --> 01:10:23.000
wheels, two eggs in twisty times
bele with two eggs, if if with

916
01:10:23.399 --> 01:10:28.000
the game and with cocolyzo cantons s
s s and toncorosos, it is three,

917
01:10:28.239 --> 01:10:30.079
they are horreros, cough, that
is to say two. They are

918
01:10:30.359 --> 01:10:34.079
the other luedas of the Medellin car, of Medellin A those almost no no,

919
01:10:34.720 --> 01:10:39.279
they are not cocolizo, all the
roe, with the gevents, the

920
01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:44.319
compizo, the muelon sanchez wey n
two crazy laughter on the four wheels of

921
01:10:44.439 --> 01:10:48.880
Medellin tojoso also four roe, all
grass toboda wey where the other one goes,

922
01:10:49.439 --> 01:10:54.600
that is to say the other also
goes out there all the same and

923
01:10:54.600 --> 01:10:57.399
all the same roe. No if
they are that yes they are well and

924
01:10:57.479 --> 01:11:01.760
almost rueces yes, yes exact then
that is what does not roll loose.

925
01:11:02.359 --> 01:11:06.800
Well, what are you here,
Christ, because we are, as we

926
01:11:06.800 --> 01:11:11.880
said, with the capitals and today
talking about mobility with the Council in Movement

927
01:11:12.039 --> 01:11:15.800
of the City of Bogotá. And
for that reason, for them we also

928
01:11:15.960 --> 01:11:29.560
have a good song with Revolcón Azoka
and such is launched my special project and

929
01:11:29.800 --> 01:11:39.680
alliance with Caracol and the consecrate here
to inform locality regarding the second, support

930
01:11:39.840 --> 01:11:49.239
to the population transport immobility, because
they have capital perhaps the people in the

931
01:11:49.520 --> 01:12:00.720
warm air and better the environment as
in the safety and improve objective so the

932
01:12:00.720 --> 01:12:09.520
liciation is transported massive also Trabama Cannin
as to control so many or data and

933
01:12:09.720 --> 01:12:18.560
the frog millennia tend I am quite
bleeding fra married capitale for following the directive

934
01:12:18.680 --> 01:12:27.640
in union with the mayors, looking
for a better country than time you are

935
01:12:27.640 --> 01:12:32.279
algas to greet. It is worth
it to the Zapata barias and the CALVII

936
01:12:32.439 --> 01:12:46.680
baena bag in the snail firefly Ral. I' m the voice. I

937
01:12:46.760 --> 01:12:50.640
am Daniel Palacios, former Minister of
the Interior, and I am the voice

938
01:12:50.720 --> 01:12:55.920
of those who believe that criminals can
no longer be rewarded, as the petro

939
01:12:56.039 --> 01:13:00.439
government intends to do with the Gulf
clan. As the Government concentrates its efforts

940
01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:04.479
on issuing arrest warrants, on having
offensive actions against criminal structures, these are

941
01:13:04.479 --> 01:13:11.840
becoming stronger in the territory every day. The Government' s concern cannot continue

942
01:13:11.920 --> 01:13:15.520
to be how criminals are given special
treatment, while citizens see with impotence how

943
01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:21.920
they continue to commit crimes with impunity, sowing terror and terror in much of

944
01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:27.159
the country. The Gulf Clan is
a criminal organization, a drug cartel,

945
01:13:27.319 --> 01:13:31.039
a mafia dedicated to extortion, dedicated
to kidnapping, murder, recruitment of minors

946
01:13:31.039 --> 01:13:39.199
and promoter of sexual violence. Organized
thugs without a political agenda. Beyond being

947
01:13:39.279 --> 01:13:45.720
enriched by the suffering of the Colombian
people. Surrendering to these criminals will bring

948
01:13:45.800 --> 01:13:50.159
more violence and lead to more criminal
groups and also weaken the state. I

949
01:13:50.199 --> 01:13:54.720
am one of those who believes,
like many Colombians, that it is already

950
01:13:54.840 --> 01:14:00.000
good to always seek to justify the
offender, seek to give them special treatment,

951
01:14:00.680 --> 01:14:03.439
give them an easy way out and
seek more and more benefits for them,

952
01:14:03.439 --> 01:14:09.439
no more. Victims as perpetrators and
perpetrators as victims. More security for

953
01:14:09.520 --> 01:14:18.520
citizens, less benefits for criminals.
The light' s nothing. Gabriel de

954
01:14:18.520 --> 01:14:32.119
las Casas is a snail Radio is
in the afternoon the homeland, the beautiful

955
01:14:32.319 --> 01:14:38.000
Land of Boyacá and from Haya,
in its tines. Question, we'

956
01:14:38.079 --> 01:14:42.199
re already working so hard until you
came to ask yourself two questions. Yo

957
01:14:42.399 --> 01:14:47.479
tuy patota hi gravianita, how many
stages of person or how nice to go

958
01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:51.239
through the square of this town of
grape and be here in the library Francisco

959
01:14:51.319 --> 01:14:55.199
José de Caldas of this town.
Look at his person. It' s

960
01:14:55.319 --> 01:15:00.000
a nice library. Here can come
all the people of the locality, come

961
01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:04.159
to do tasks, work and research. I am very glad that these kinds

962
01:15:04.279 --> 01:15:09.520
of places are found so that people
can instruct themselves. A thousand thanks to

963
01:15:09.600 --> 01:15:13.520
Lus María Zapata, the director of
the Colombian Association of Capital Cities, to

964
01:15:13.640 --> 01:15:16.600
the Council in motion. The Council
of Bogotá also accompanied us here, Juan

965
01:15:16.600 --> 01:15:19.560
Baena, who is with us today
by the President of the Council. Ah

966
01:15:19.640 --> 01:15:23.079
well hear your person. You can
give him some clear news. Yes,

967
01:15:23.119 --> 01:15:29.520
lady n part of tranquility say acosemilla
and faith of rice aco seeds, because

968
01:15:30.239 --> 01:15:35.039
there are stocks of rice for Colombian
consumption at least two thousand twenty- four

969
01:15:35.159 --> 01:15:39.800
this semester. Colombia faces a special
situation, because, despite climatic conditions,

970
01:15:40.239 --> 01:15:48.279
rice is guaranteed for at least this
semester. Stocks of approximately nine hundred and

971
01:15:48.479 --> 01:15:54.000
forty thousand tons are estimated. This
semester we see to see what will happen

972
01:15:54.079 --> 01:15:56.960
the other semester in Crebieli. We
go see, we go see his person.

973
01:16:00.359 --> 01:16:01.359
Oh, ma' am, how
can you think of that? I

974
01:16:01.439 --> 01:16:05.119
already have a note for you instead
of saying Norida said Norisa Moria, I

975
01:16:05.119 --> 01:16:12.319
said, gentlemen, I am and
how old for Friday. Or good they

976
01:16:12.399 --> 01:16:16.520
' re Orlandito, billiards Ducky,
how I' m doing, I want

977
01:16:16.640 --> 01:16:19.680
that person to hear how the Minister
of Health did with the excitement of censorship.

978
01:16:20.319 --> 01:16:25.439
They made him believe, for they
have done nothing to him. It

979
01:16:25.640 --> 01:16:30.000
was greda, as you say.
It really goes beyond becoming a social sanction

980
01:16:30.359 --> 01:16:34.439
that has to come to the Congress
of the Republic the cabinet ministers to explain

981
01:16:34.479 --> 01:16:42.960
the faults and the reasons or to
argue the steps that they have advanced in

982
01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:47.319
the face of the different problems for
which they are cited because so far no

983
01:16:47.520 --> 01:16:54.039
such emotion of censorship has prospered since
the creation of the figure in the Constitution

984
01:16:54.079 --> 01:16:58.920
of nine hundred and ninety- one
to remove any of the ministers from the

985
01:16:58.920 --> 01:17:01.239
cabinet. Today, on the noon
news with Diana Calderón, we counted about

986
01:17:01.560 --> 01:17:06.439
forty emotions of censorship have been cited
in the Congress of the Republic since the

987
01:17:06.439 --> 01:17:13.399
creation of the figure. One of
the governments that had that figure most was

988
01:17:13.439 --> 01:17:16.359
that of former President Ivan du Que, for example, had ten motions of

989
01:17:16.439 --> 01:17:20.640
censure that told him yes, President
Juan Manuel Santos, because he had two

990
01:17:20.640 --> 01:17:24.479
periods, two of governments and that
is why, let us say, he

991
01:17:24.600 --> 01:17:27.840
is one of those that also has
the most number of ministers. Among Duke

992
01:17:27.880 --> 01:17:38.079
' s were, for example,
Minister Calle. In that bitch, the

993
01:17:38.159 --> 01:17:43.600
bitches were really cut off here for
bidding between former President Iván Duque are,

994
01:17:44.000 --> 01:17:47.119
for example, some very popular,
such as former Defense Minister Diego Molano,

995
01:17:47.600 --> 01:17:51.640
such as the Minister of Transport,
Angela María Orozco and even former Defense Minister

996
01:17:51.680 --> 01:17:58.520
Guillermo Botero, among others. During
the government of President Gustavo Petro, five

997
01:17:58.560 --> 01:18:01.920
citations have been made to the Minister
of Mines and Energy Irendibles at the time,

998
01:18:02.119 --> 01:18:06.479
to strit Rodríguez, Minister of Sport
for the Pan American Games, to

999
01:18:06.560 --> 01:18:11.720
Foreign MinisterÁlvaro Leiva and to the
one that took place today, despite the

1000
01:18:12.159 --> 01:18:16.359
management that is criticized by Minister Jaramillo, his radical positions, the crisis in

1001
01:18:16.439 --> 01:18:20.239
the health system, the shortage of
medicines, what happens with the PSC,

1002
01:18:20.439 --> 01:18:25.119
which also happens flirtations and claims within
the health sector and, of course,

1003
01:18:26.439 --> 01:18:29.960
what has been talked about the management
of resources and the implementation of the reform

1004
01:18:30.039 --> 01:18:34.600
by decree. All that was talked
about over there. But finally, with

1005
01:18:34.720 --> 01:18:39.079
twenty- ninety- six votes against
and thirty- six in favour, this

1006
01:18:39.199 --> 01:18:42.800
emotion of censorship does not prosper and
Minister Jaramismo looks. It is clear that

1007
01:18:42.920 --> 01:18:45.439
if he will prosper, the Minister
resigns or withdraws lovers. It' s

1008
01:18:45.520 --> 01:18:50.520
that simple what' s happened historically. This, Mrs Well, that'

1009
01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:53.600
s what those fucks are for,
and that' s no good at all.

1010
01:18:53.680 --> 01:18:58.760
But, hey, Dan melquisid Pantochita, how well will it be how

1011
01:18:58.800 --> 01:19:01.079
his wapato appeared to him? No
I already know this area of here super

1012
01:19:01.199 --> 01:19:05.520
this is my territory where ah how
well I move in these waters omese you

1013
01:19:05.520 --> 01:19:12.399
and here goes right for or Jaco
Jairo Chaparro, We travel the wetlands that

1014
01:19:12.439 --> 01:19:15.199
are from here to there and from
below up to the earmuff. That'

1015
01:19:15.199 --> 01:19:18.840
s not Chaparro, you know where
to eat around here It' s very

1016
01:19:18.840 --> 01:19:20.680
clear all the time. Well,
well, that' s why we visited,

1017
01:19:20.760 --> 01:19:23.399
there' s no great ration.
I don' t think that'

1018
01:19:23.399 --> 01:19:26.720
s a bad idea. Not just
visiting the town of Suba. As I

1019
01:19:26.720 --> 01:19:29.600
said, support someone who removes a
chucha here, kills a dog and then

1020
01:19:29.680 --> 01:19:31.760
starts in the town of Antonio Nariño, in the town of Chapinero. That

1021
01:19:31.960 --> 01:19:34.800
' s right, let' s
turn all locations around. Ma' am,

1022
01:19:35.239 --> 01:19:36.840
I think that' s a very
good idea. Well, hello,

1023
01:19:38.399 --> 01:19:44.359
see an octophyte quisidec. There'
s a fight between President Petro and Antioqua

1024
01:19:44.520 --> 01:19:47.880
or it' s just starting.
He doesn' t take his time anymore

1025
01:19:47.880 --> 01:19:49.880
because of the election. I don' t see him in a fight.

1026
01:19:49.960 --> 01:19:54.520
That' s a declared war.
Yes, no doubt, President Gustavo Petro

1027
01:19:54.600 --> 01:19:59.359
has a huge disaffection for the department
of Antioqua. It' s not a

1028
01:19:59.439 --> 01:20:01.880
land that' s great to him, because they want it very much from

1029
01:20:01.880 --> 01:20:04.439
him over there. That' s
where it all starts. Moreover, it

1030
01:20:04.520 --> 01:20:09.920
seems to him that the Anchocans,
for they have not been on their side,

1031
01:20:10.159 --> 01:20:13.359
and that is true in electoral terms. But it is a region that

1032
01:20:13.399 --> 01:20:17.439
contributes a great deal to national development, which has its very important share in

1033
01:20:17.479 --> 01:20:21.760
the domestic product, gross, in
business in many things, like many other

1034
01:20:23.159 --> 01:20:27.920
regions like Cundinamarca, Boyacal, the
Atlantic, etc, so that they are

1035
01:20:27.920 --> 01:20:31.319
Colombians just like us. Unfortunately,
the President has married a direct fight and

1036
01:20:31.439 --> 01:20:36.399
yesterday radicalized it apart there, in
the department of Antioqua, because, in

1037
01:20:36.920 --> 01:20:42.079
the first place, there was a
great disgust on the part of the Anchoqueños

1038
01:20:42.159 --> 01:20:46.079
because the governor of that department,
andrés Julián Rendón, in the first place

1039
01:20:46.199 --> 01:20:49.520
did not want to see him there. He was tipped off the last hour

1040
01:20:49.600 --> 01:20:55.399
as if he didn' t make
it. The governor arrived and was requisitioned

1041
01:20:56.319 --> 01:21:00.399
by the escorts of the President of
the Republic when he was going to climb

1042
01:21:00.520 --> 01:21:03.760
the platform, which is unusual when
it comes to the first authority of the

1043
01:21:03.760 --> 01:21:08.479
department. Of course security measures must
be taken, but I think there was

1044
01:21:08.520 --> 01:21:12.560
an exaggeration in this case. Yes, not man, and in that matter,

1045
01:21:12.680 --> 01:21:15.840
because, as they commonly say,
they raked at the department' s

1046
01:21:15.840 --> 01:21:19.640
first authority to side with the country' s first authority. That' s

1047
01:21:19.720 --> 01:21:24.079
where it all started wrong. After
they stewed the Governor more, they seized

1048
01:21:24.159 --> 01:21:28.399
the Governor more than the same people
who attended Don Gravielito. And that'

1049
01:21:28.479 --> 01:21:31.239
s where the wrong protocol, the
Protocolors, gets loaded. That' s

1050
01:21:31.319 --> 01:21:35.039
part of just a military house department
that handles lauras to the grave the uda.

1051
01:21:35.800 --> 01:21:39.439
There' s still the answer to
this. According to some sources,

1052
01:21:39.920 --> 01:21:42.960
he apologized to the Governor of Antioquia
at the end of the event. I

1053
01:21:43.079 --> 01:21:45.039
hope I did. And that'
s where it all started wrong. He

1054
01:21:45.479 --> 01:21:49.600
said because later the President, in
a long speech, mentioned many times the

1055
01:21:49.680 --> 01:21:54.079
sector of the town of the antioque
capital of Medellín, which is an area

1056
01:21:54.239 --> 01:21:58.920
that has in some areas a high
stratum, but in other areas there are

1057
01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:01.760
also low strata. However, he
in philobateries against the village, even noting

1058
01:22:01.840 --> 01:22:08.279
that there had originated the paramilitarism of
Colombia. In addition, again, as

1059
01:22:08.359 --> 01:22:13.479
he has done on other occasions,
he shot very loudly in verbal terms against

1060
01:22:13.520 --> 01:22:17.039
the anti- Oqueño entrepreneur, He
came to the point of saying that those

1061
01:22:17.039 --> 01:22:20.119
of Medellín are not countries, that
that is completely different, etcetera. In

1062
01:22:20.159 --> 01:22:26.359
the face of all this, moreover, a dilemma was raised that does not

1063
01:22:26.800 --> 01:22:29.720
seem logical, that the silver of
the Tollo tunnel, which is the most

1064
01:22:29.840 --> 01:22:32.560
important infrastructure work for the anchoqueños and, to a large extent, for the

1065
01:22:32.680 --> 01:22:36.039
country, should also be used for
regional aqueducts. The governor of antioqua told

1066
01:22:36.079 --> 01:22:41.439
him, because you can do both. We finished the tunnel, which already

1067
01:22:41.479 --> 01:22:45.920
has a huge advance and we also
put silver you and me for the effects

1068
01:22:45.960 --> 01:22:50.359
of the aqueducts that are needed in
the region. Governor Rendón finally ended up

1069
01:22:50.640 --> 01:22:58.000
serving the circumstances. He answered the
President. He also defended the inhabitants of

1070
01:22:58.079 --> 01:23:00.880
Medellin, the village, etcetera.
But it' s all over here.

1071
01:23:00.960 --> 01:23:05.760
In addition, Gabriel Patojitas with a
trio of the President in which he criticizes

1072
01:23:06.239 --> 01:23:12.119
those who oppose the constituent or the
constituent process, as he now calls it,

1073
01:23:12.359 --> 01:23:17.520
and says that many of those who
oppose are sponsors or affections of paramilitarism

1074
01:23:17.560 --> 01:23:24.399
and corruption, so that those who
question the Government or those who disagree with

1075
01:23:24.439 --> 01:23:30.439
the positions of the Government are already
stigmatized. This is a democracy. Colombians

1076
01:23:30.520 --> 01:23:32.840
have the right to agree or disagree, so it seems to me that there

1077
01:23:32.880 --> 01:23:38.960
is another very serious attack by the
President for those who are against his policies

1078
01:23:39.039 --> 01:23:42.920
or what they intend at that time. Now melquice that I don' t

1079
01:23:43.039 --> 01:23:45.640
know if it' s ignorance.
I don' t know if they didn

1080
01:23:45.840 --> 01:23:47.720
' t tell him or he just
wants to confuse. He didn' t

1081
01:23:47.840 --> 01:23:53.600
give foot with a ball of how
much the works cost or the tunnel and

1082
01:23:53.600 --> 01:23:56.960
he was talking about five billion,
when that' s not the cost of

1083
01:23:57.039 --> 01:23:58.800
what they have to put for the
tunnel. From the national government spoke of

1084
01:23:58.880 --> 01:24:01.279
four or five million ns. If
it turns out that what is missing is

1085
01:24:01.359 --> 01:24:05.760
six hundred billion and what was determined
from the two thousand twenty valid to future

1086
01:24:06.079 --> 01:24:10.520
was a billion and a half pesos. So even when the play started,

1087
01:24:10.880 --> 01:24:14.479
it didn' t have that value, and so, it seems like he

1088
01:24:14.479 --> 01:24:18.159
' s a president who comes in
absolutely without data, without information, and

1089
01:24:18.239 --> 01:24:19.680
starts throwing away anything that' s
coming up to him. He is a

1090
01:24:19.760 --> 01:24:23.600
great speaker, no doubt, but
the problem is that you can be a

1091
01:24:23.720 --> 01:24:28.039
very good speaker, but with false
or inaccurate data or with careless attacks like

1092
01:24:28.079 --> 01:24:30.079
the ones you saw yesterday. Of
course not, if you compare five billion

1093
01:24:30.159 --> 01:24:33.000
pesos of a tunnel to one million
pesos of an aqueduct, because people say

1094
01:24:33.039 --> 01:24:38.399
the aqueduct we need it. But
not playing with lies, not wey ducks

1095
01:24:38.479 --> 01:24:41.439
in person. Okay. I'
m not going to ask you any more

1096
01:24:41.439 --> 01:24:44.079
questions from Don Gravielito. I'
m going to stay here for a few

1097
01:24:44.079 --> 01:24:45.760
laps good trade. Also there is
in the locality of your ouch graviliso.

1098
01:24:45.840 --> 01:24:49.800
Yes, sir, besides the library
that' s super complete. There I

1099
01:24:49.880 --> 01:24:54.000
see Chinese arriving with chores, dating
the moms that Garchin doesn' t hang

1100
01:24:54.119 --> 01:24:55.680
out with, that I did the, don' t say it, no

1101
01:24:55.680 --> 01:24:58.760
less. Yes, ma' am, or I would say, yes,

1102
01:24:59.159 --> 01:25:02.960
he will wish you when Chiquita here
You see, my son comes here Do

1103
01:25:03.039 --> 01:25:04.680
the idiotic papita task to Francisco José
de Caldas, a little bit of humor.

1104
01:25:04.720 --> 01:25:13.079
Little friend. So count, well, pinito, my humor is still

1105
01:25:13.079 --> 01:25:16.359
here in the library Francisco José de
Caldas, garrito in the town of Suba.

1106
01:25:16.479 --> 01:25:21.640
Yes, Mr Gaulito, curious surnames
are once to see please, this

1107
01:25:21.960 --> 01:25:26.760
yes was short before you, Gaulito, why, Joseph, four houses to

1108
01:25:26.760 --> 01:25:30.560
four houses, four houses. It
just changed that. Yeah, it'

1109
01:25:31.119 --> 01:25:34.520
s infinite to open the house TV. Yeah, amazing. This is a

1110
01:25:34.600 --> 01:25:41.239
Spanish botanist and pharmacist, Gaulito Come
on, I don' t know this

1111
01:25:41.239 --> 01:25:43.560
jose four houses, yes, four
humble houses, four no more. Yeah,

1112
01:25:44.000 --> 01:25:46.319
Uli x seventy and and I was
thinking the same thing, but I

1113
01:25:46.520 --> 01:25:51.479
wanted it to be four cases of
seventy- one and one of thirty-

1114
01:25:51.640 --> 01:25:55.399
seven and I just ended up in
the houses. And another curious last name.

1115
01:25:55.479 --> 01:26:00.760
Christian Cutu Rufo, a trumpet,
a kidney ok Utu Rufo your Rufutu.

1116
01:26:01.680 --> 01:26:10.439
They' re all singing. Miguel
Sacarias, a director and producer of

1117
01:26:10.720 --> 01:26:15.119
Mexican cinema, Mira Zacharias, gas
ok and finally, Antonio Mayor Ibarrica made

1118
01:26:16.640 --> 01:26:21.359
him laugh. Antonio Mayor Ibarriga,
a Spanish prelate, Gabriel and why it

1119
01:26:21.439 --> 01:26:26.800
makes him laugh in the relationship Parriga
and mayor gablie A. I don'

1120
01:26:26.840 --> 01:26:30.600
t know what, but sometimes those
last names had those historical components. Either

1121
01:26:30.720 --> 01:26:33.520
he was the mayor' s son
or he was a gentleman with a prominent

1122
01:26:33.560 --> 01:26:38.039
belly, he was Mr Sandra.
He first- hand met those historical and

1123
01:26:38.800 --> 01:26:41.479
sound moments. No. No,
no, no, no, sir you

1124
01:26:41.520 --> 01:26:44.840
' ve dressed, please, we
don' t have the bad and the

1125
01:26:44.840 --> 01:26:50.399
good at this hour, Gabrielito of
the afternoon, now glancine the command and

1126
01:26:50.399 --> 01:26:53.159
he good the. We start with
the bad guy, the bad guy,

1127
01:26:53.319 --> 01:26:56.560
if that' s how the English
says more to coordinate with what comes coordinated.

1128
01:26:56.800 --> 01:27:00.039
Lito who is the lingue iman of
that to him, she to him

1129
01:27:00.119 --> 01:27:02.119
what she told him. She wasn' t there, no, she didn

1130
01:27:02.119 --> 01:27:05.560
' t say anything. Then I' ll get ahead of myself this or.

1131
01:27:05.600 --> 01:27:10.600
So yes, yes, she was
there in a restaurant and she started

1132
01:27:10.600 --> 01:27:13.199
looking at him. Yes, and
he was grassy, grubby, grassy and

1133
01:27:13.279 --> 01:27:15.199
he was at another table and she
was at another table if she didn'

1134
01:27:15.319 --> 01:27:18.199
t tell him anything, but she
looked at him as tempting, as if

1135
01:27:18.479 --> 01:27:24.239
a tempting look is the hot doctor' s coffee and looked at her and

1136
01:27:24.319 --> 01:27:27.039
it bit her eye to him,
she to him, and he turned and

1137
01:27:27.119 --> 01:27:30.039
she followed him and everything and with
her look until finally she stood up and

1138
01:27:30.119 --> 01:27:34.840
said hey you got Whatsapp. Well, yes, ma' am, yes,

1139
01:27:35.079 --> 01:27:42.279
I have to write it to me
in a napkin and I pass his

1140
01:27:42.680 --> 01:27:47.479
take a servita and wrote to him
I have waspajahahahahahahaja and the brother Garlito was

1141
01:27:47.560 --> 01:27:49.119
the bad one, the good one, Gaolita, the level to see the

1142
01:27:49.119 --> 01:27:51.760
level of the good one. It
was awesome, too. The boy at

1143
01:27:51.840 --> 01:27:57.319
school already talking about library and school. Right now, yes, I threw

1144
01:27:57.800 --> 01:28:02.720
my spelling and that' s what
the teacher says I only make up words,

1145
01:28:02.960 --> 01:28:04.760
but I think it' s stupid. Son, but calm down.

1146
01:28:04.960 --> 01:28:09.520
You don' t have time for
your recovery. It' s good,

1147
01:28:09.560 --> 01:28:20.600
well, it' s not like
that, buddy, Gabriel de las Casas,

1148
01:28:20.960 --> 01:28:24.760
that radio canco already shows the caracol
lucierra. Well Malquisedec We' re

1149
01:28:24.840 --> 01:28:28.479
talking this week that the nation might
have cash flow problems starting in October.

1150
01:28:30.399 --> 01:28:32.199
We greet the Minister of Finance,
Ricardo Bonilla, Minister, how he is

1151
01:28:32.279 --> 01:28:34.760
doing and what is happening to us, how we didn' t do the

1152
01:28:34.760 --> 01:28:41.039
accounts well, what' s going
on there for a moment, Gabriel,

1153
01:28:41.239 --> 01:28:44.960
what a pity here they were pressing
my cituron. Yeah, and that'

1154
01:28:45.039 --> 01:28:47.399
s nothing. Wait and see how
it is that we have to tighten,

1155
01:28:47.920 --> 01:28:50.960
because, as I said, we
could have a box difficulty starting in October.

1156
01:28:51.399 --> 01:28:56.920
In IT witches are going to get
scared and if they want works like

1157
01:28:57.000 --> 01:29:00.439
those of the Tollo Tunnel Support me
and get ready for another nailed down,

1158
01:29:00.880 --> 01:29:04.399
another beautiful tax reform. Gabriel,
it' s good to hear it and

1159
01:29:04.399 --> 01:29:09.000
tell him that at least we don' t spend so much money on gasoline

1160
01:29:09.000 --> 01:29:12.079
subsidies anymore. That' s right. I hope the freight transporters will stop

1161
01:29:12.119 --> 01:29:15.920
opposing that we go up to the
price, to the disel that they come

1162
01:29:15.039 --> 01:29:19.720
to play perinola with me and that
I hope it falls on everyone they put

1163
01:29:19.720 --> 01:29:24.600
and or want. Gentlemen accusers,
we must all put, we must provide

1164
01:29:24.680 --> 01:29:27.920
some fish through the sauces and that, please, they no longer threaten to

1165
01:29:28.039 --> 01:29:30.079
move the mule, because, as
they say they would stop the mule or

1166
01:29:30.079 --> 01:29:34.600
the truck, we better get them
to say something and better move that mule

1167
01:29:34.680 --> 01:29:38.600
And we look good. Gabriel,
well, that' s just one of

1168
01:29:38.920 --> 01:29:42.319
the bemolls we need to analyze.
But the kised that we do more accounts

1169
01:29:42.399 --> 01:29:45.399
how we are going to run out
of money in the country Gabriel had been

1170
01:29:45.399 --> 01:29:50.479
warned since last year when the draft
national budget was transmitted, because there are

1171
01:29:50.560 --> 01:29:56.119
accounts there that are not fixed.
For example, there are about ten billion

1172
01:29:56.199 --> 01:30:00.920
pesos with which the government has,
but which are expectations of litigation, judicial

1173
01:30:01.039 --> 01:30:06.520
processes that could be favorable or not. Then you can' t think that

1174
01:30:06.600 --> 01:30:10.399
you' re going to win the
lawsuit when that' s not in your

1175
01:30:10.399 --> 01:30:13.880
hands. There is a gap,
the other big gap that the Minister has

1176
01:30:13.920 --> 01:30:16.800
recognized and is going to start covering
it in some way or in a single

1177
01:30:16.880 --> 01:30:20.960
way, which is raising the price
of the disel is thirty- five billion

1178
01:30:21.039 --> 01:30:26.560
pesos that last year meant that huge
gap of fuel subsidies, which in part

1179
01:30:26.640 --> 01:30:30.479
greatly lowered by the increase in the
price of gasoline, but will have to

1180
01:30:30.520 --> 01:30:33.920
raise the disel. That' s
inevitable. There' s no other way

1181
01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:39.119
to cover the hole. He is
also acknowledging to Minister Bonilla that the tax

1182
01:30:39.159 --> 01:30:42.680
collection that was expected last year was
not achieved, despite the fact that the

1183
01:30:42.720 --> 01:30:46.079
Director of DIAN said that the results
were fabulous, but his boss, who

1184
01:30:46.199 --> 01:30:48.800
is the Minister of Finance, is
saying that the collection goal was not achieved.

1185
01:30:50.560 --> 01:30:57.760
And there is also that decision of
the Constitutional Court on the technical problem,

1186
01:30:58.439 --> 01:31:02.079
of deductibility or of royalties, which
the Court ruled in favor of the

1187
01:31:02.119 --> 01:31:08.960
large oil companies, including Ecopetrol.
That is why the Minister has said that

1188
01:31:09.079 --> 01:31:15.239
they might have some cash difficulty,
i e contense silver, that it would

1189
01:31:15.279 --> 01:31:18.720
not be available in the amounts required
for the month of October and for December,

1190
01:31:18.920 --> 01:31:23.000
for November and for December as well, and that that would involve making

1191
01:31:23.000 --> 01:31:27.439
some decision. Some listeners are going
to remember that when Iván Duque' s

1192
01:31:27.560 --> 01:31:30.520
government was ending, there was also
talk of cash flows and then the big

1193
01:31:30.560 --> 01:31:34.840
scandal was built because they were supposedly
recognizing that there was no money, that

1194
01:31:34.920 --> 01:31:36.840
they had spent it, and so
on. Not here is the fact that

1195
01:31:36.960 --> 01:31:42.359
not enough money is coming and from
now on the Minister is warning us that

1196
01:31:42.720 --> 01:31:46.840
he could see those difficulties and with
all this panorama, because he says that

1197
01:31:46.960 --> 01:31:53.399
there would be a need for tax
reform, when the previous one is hardly

1198
01:31:53.399 --> 01:31:54.800
being put into practice. I'
ll be right back with the transporters.

1199
01:31:54.800 --> 01:31:58.079
I think so. It' s
time for transporters to put their hands on

1200
01:31:58.199 --> 01:32:00.600
their hearts, not just in the
village, because every time we talk about

1201
01:32:00.680 --> 01:32:04.159
going up the design the one that
needs to be raised by this government,

1202
01:32:04.239 --> 01:32:09.000
perhaps one of the most anti-
popular measures is to increase the price of

1203
01:32:09.119 --> 01:32:11.720
gasoline, the most anti- popular. Without a doubt, it is the

1204
01:32:11.800 --> 01:32:15.000
most anti- popular and has to
touch the transporters in one way or another.

1205
01:32:15.439 --> 01:32:18.119
Let us not come back again with
the threats of national strikes, with

1206
01:32:18.199 --> 01:32:23.199
the blocking of roads, compare the
productivity of the country, because not you

1207
01:32:23.199 --> 01:32:27.199
will be harmed to all. If
sadly it' s something we' re

1208
01:32:27.279 --> 01:32:30.840
going to have those costs of anything
in transportation. He says it' s

1209
01:32:30.880 --> 01:32:34.720
a cost that also moves to the
merchandise they' re transporting. The merchandise

1210
01:32:34.840 --> 01:32:39.640
is definitely going up because it has
to cover now. You can' t

1211
01:32:39.720 --> 01:32:42.760
go up in the same percentage that' s going up and say it on

1212
01:32:42.760 --> 01:32:46.479
the transporters. But I hope we' re not going to have roadblocks or

1213
01:32:46.720 --> 01:32:50.760
threats of national productivity stop by orcharding
Gabriel. But this, moreover, has

1214
01:32:50.760 --> 01:32:55.079
to do with the execution of the
budget and how the investment is being managed.

1215
01:32:57.479 --> 01:33:03.119
Look at a report by the national
government and the Treasury itself showed that

1216
01:33:03.199 --> 01:33:09.560
forty- four percent of ministries have
an execution below five percent. The silver

1217
01:33:09.680 --> 01:33:12.159
isn' t flowing. More than
twenty- four billion pesos have been lost

1218
01:33:12.199 --> 01:33:17.199
in investment, according to the same
report, which should be invested in the

1219
01:33:17.279 --> 01:33:20.840
different sectors that move the economy,
the fall in housing, the fall in

1220
01:33:20.960 --> 01:33:27.079
construction, the fall in the implementation
of works and infrastructure. All that money

1221
01:33:27.159 --> 01:33:30.079
in the government accounts also prevents Gabriel
from having an effective cash flow that returns,

1222
01:33:30.560 --> 01:33:33.039
of course, to the nation,
because we all put the sauces on

1223
01:33:33.079 --> 01:33:38.560
the fuels, it is also up
to the transporters. They put a little

1224
01:33:38.600 --> 01:33:47.520
more of their part a roll n
n n moment we all put you,

1225
01:33:49.039 --> 01:33:58.039
we all oppose saws, contain tames, all tomimos, we all put is

1226
01:33:58.039 --> 01:34:04.840
ton does not work, only we
falga here the ones cut. They come

1227
01:34:04.960 --> 01:34:10.640
out conjugating some moment, not that
here it is also of increasing achan.

1228
01:34:11.920 --> 01:34:17.520
You step on the lens, the
basket will rise. But anyway, we

1229
01:34:17.720 --> 01:34:27.000
all pay whatever they want to saddle. Let' s all put, let

1230
01:34:27.159 --> 01:34:32.000
' s all put for what forward
the countryman. Let' s all put,

1231
01:34:32.439 --> 01:34:44.760
let' s all put, that
just as many as we pay for

1232
01:34:45.239 --> 01:34:45.720
the brush are also used by the
indua machinery and that zuz contasto. I

1233
01:34:45.800 --> 01:34:56.039
' m in the candals gamonic Electly
in al says is also indispensable to me

1234
01:34:56.239 --> 01:35:00.760
and the law is for everyone,
although there is no one imposable. We

1235
01:35:00.840 --> 01:35:09.720
all joined, we all ate the
piritoo in Colombia, as we all saw

1236
01:35:09.880 --> 01:35:21.720
together as we united, not just
a few for catinos we can güey well,

1237
01:35:21.720 --> 01:35:27.600
little friends. How We Are Abrielito, we are still here in the

1238
01:35:27.640 --> 01:35:31.840
libraries what is called the library in
Orjara. Francisco José Depachito, we'

1239
01:35:31.920 --> 01:35:34.760
re following the bsica of country.
We are on the radio snail with the

1240
01:35:34.840 --> 01:35:39.640
Council on the Move, the Council
of the City of Bogotá and the Colombian

1241
01:35:39.720 --> 01:35:44.279
Association of Capital Cities. Asociación Colombiana
de Ciudades Capitales Azo Capitales, Consejo el

1242
01:35:44.319 --> 01:35:47.720
Movimiento de Consejo de Bogotá. Well, but the little friend I think is

1243
01:35:47.880 --> 01:35:54.199
significantly reducing the historical weight of the
wise Caldas. Not in the name of

1244
01:35:54.279 --> 01:35:59.800
Pachito was such a man the pro- independence man, who died trying that

1245
01:36:00.399 --> 01:36:03.479
country and who was also a great
scientist. Well, then, Niñito,

1246
01:36:03.560 --> 01:36:06.359
please, then Francisco doesn' t
say empacho, but Francisco Apachito does,

1247
01:36:08.119 --> 01:36:11.600
but that trusts you. No.
But if you tell Juan Luis to Maluma

1248
01:36:11.680 --> 01:36:15.479
because he grows the myth. But
I' m not going to compare Paluma

1249
01:36:15.680 --> 01:36:18.520
to Juan Claro, that' s
how he sticks. Please, no,

1250
01:36:18.600 --> 01:36:21.560
no, not via. He didn' t talk about the degree of yes.

1251
01:36:21.880 --> 01:36:27.039
I agree. Full of confidence.
Here the only panchito is Chito Santos

1252
01:36:27.119 --> 01:36:31.319
and yes, because it is small
and everything yes, but I defend mercha.

1253
01:36:31.600 --> 01:36:35.039
Wise Calda was an engineer, military, geographer, botanist, astronomer,

1254
01:36:35.239 --> 01:36:42.520
naturalist and journalist. Look at that. The melquisec of the time was hahahaja,

1255
01:36:44.279 --> 01:36:48.439
a hundred not. Please, Sol
didn' t kill me insult in

1256
01:36:48.520 --> 01:36:51.600
the memory of wise Cranta. He
was starting to be a coffee maker where

1257
01:36:51.680 --> 01:36:55.880
he did. No. I think
the dad had coffee crops on the huey

1258
01:36:55.960 --> 01:37:00.439
could do it. Dj Francisco,
because there wasn' t as if he

1259
01:37:00.439 --> 01:37:01.479
didn' t make it up.
But, well, and besides, I

1260
01:37:01.720 --> 01:37:05.359
don' t publish indirects like certain
people, that' s very good for

1261
01:37:05.359 --> 01:37:10.079
you. So to me you go
from important data fronts. Garito for today,

1262
01:37:10.239 --> 01:37:15.560
since in the afternoon already falls the
placer crepusc. If you imagine that

1263
01:37:15.760 --> 01:37:18.079
good MM is supposed to have a
day like Biri speeded up on Women'

1264
01:37:18.079 --> 01:37:20.279
s Day. Gablito, one day
like you say, they didn' t

1265
01:37:20.279 --> 01:37:23.800
or they ran it. They ran
it later for the 8th Mars. But

1266
01:37:24.079 --> 01:37:27.319
we talked about Man' s Day
just today. But see how it seems

1267
01:37:27.399 --> 01:37:30.439
to you that we can also give
a very special greeting to the women who

1268
01:37:30.520 --> 01:37:33.960
are just finishing fixing. For them
we also give a very top salt of

1269
01:37:34.039 --> 01:37:39.439
the time to see. No yes, now if I gaulito the bad and

1270
01:37:39.520 --> 01:37:44.880
the good at this hour of the
firefly. Now in the firefly the bad

1271
01:37:45.560 --> 01:37:49.520
and the good, the bad,
the bad, Garlito, she does,

1272
01:37:49.960 --> 01:37:56.239
she has another and the but you
have another too. But you' re

1273
01:37:56.359 --> 01:38:00.359
not jealous. Me, if I' m a bad king, it'

1274
01:38:00.359 --> 01:38:02.520
s not bad. Leave us thinking
wey invites us to reflect. Look who

1275
01:38:02.560 --> 01:38:05.880
' s laughing Look who' s
laughing. But it' s a laugh,

1276
01:38:06.159 --> 01:38:11.880
it' s a laugh and weird
b is weird or being a friend,

1277
01:38:11.880 --> 01:38:14.399
we' re not supported. But
he invites, he invites reflection.

1278
01:38:14.520 --> 01:38:16.399
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and
I don' t know why he'

1279
01:38:16.399 --> 01:38:20.039
s pushing what he doesn' t
demand in garlito, no, like we

1280
01:38:20.159 --> 01:38:24.840
don' t follow him if Pixon
alexy garlito and now, yeah, the

1281
01:38:24.880 --> 01:38:26.560
good one, now the good one, yeah, well, we don'

1282
01:38:26.560 --> 01:38:31.720
t almost push him. I don' t get it with different plase Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha?

1283
01:38:33.680 --> 01:38:36.680
And I speak an important fact one
day about a thousand nine hundred ninety

1284
01:38:36.680 --> 01:38:41.279
and fifty. But well, before
the ox Michael Jordan announced his return to

1285
01:38:41.319 --> 01:38:45.880
the NBA. At Gaulito' s
return and at a press conference he said

1286
01:38:45.600 --> 01:38:51.640
imback to what that means. I
came back very well to whom I was

1287
01:38:56.720 --> 01:39:00.600
going to ask Jajaja, Ray Horas. If you don' t ask him,

1288
01:39:00.800 --> 01:39:02.439
I' ll hurt his homework.
No, no, no, I

1289
01:39:02.520 --> 01:39:09.960
' ve got her ready there because
where I didn' t look for a

1290
01:39:10.039 --> 01:39:12.239
dogry plan, right now, I
would have said I' m the target

1291
01:39:12.239 --> 01:39:15.680
of some campaign. Well, give
back, good conito. Now there was

1292
01:39:15.239 --> 01:39:19.560
her and the couple of husbands,
husbands whose own, how many have been

1293
01:39:19.600 --> 01:39:23.960
married, nine years married, had
been married years, yes, exactly.

1294
01:39:25.039 --> 01:39:33.600
The notary Andrés Añez is important and
made to stop being the belo to make

1295
01:39:33.640 --> 01:39:38.840
the sarios the chis, but I
was abstaining I noticed that the notaries are

1296
01:39:38.920 --> 01:39:40.960
doing very well. Then we'
re good. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1297
01:39:41.079 --> 01:39:45.039
it' s grains, yeah,
yeah. I made her my love.

1298
01:39:45.880 --> 01:39:49.319
I play football or porn, porn. You already know how to play

1299
01:39:49.319 --> 01:39:56.119
me in football. And if it' s good, it' s good,

1300
01:39:57.680 --> 01:40:02.840
yes, Excellent Alexanma laughed, not
small, So, it' s

1301
01:40:02.880 --> 01:40:11.920
good, yeah, Leave it there
buddy Goodbye, Mr Caoga la Lucien Naga,

1302
01:40:12.399 --> 01:40:14.239
Gabriel de las Casas is Caracol Radio. Today we are still well in

1303
01:40:14.239 --> 01:40:17.159
Lucia Naga, in Caracol Radio,
We are still in the town of Suba,

1304
01:40:17.560 --> 01:40:21.600
Public Library Francisco José de Caldas,
in this town of Suba where the

1305
01:40:21.680 --> 01:40:27.079
Council has moved precisely today, in
motion, in this invitation, in this

1306
01:40:27.159 --> 01:40:30.000
presence that we have of azo capitals. Today we are with Juan Baena,

1307
01:40:30.600 --> 01:40:33.319
also the President of the Council of
Bogotá, n Quise de Torres, President

1308
01:40:33.399 --> 01:40:38.439
of the Council. The big issue
of the first months of the Bogotá government

1309
01:40:38.720 --> 01:40:43.600
is the Metro. Not by decisions
of this mayor' s office, but

1310
01:40:43.880 --> 01:40:47.880
by President Gustavo Petro' s already
manifest intention to include his underground subway dream.

1311
01:40:48.680 --> 01:40:54.119
If eventually the national government puts obstacles
to the turn of the silver that

1312
01:40:54.199 --> 01:40:57.640
corresponds to the nation, which is
seventy percent of the value of the work,

1313
01:40:57.840 --> 01:41:00.560
what could happen. You guys have
planned two scenarios. They have discussed

1314
01:41:00.560 --> 01:41:05.680
it, because here it is clear
that the national government will use many mechanisms

1315
01:41:05.760 --> 01:41:10.439
to try to torpedo the work and
impose that vision of the underground subway.

1316
01:41:11.000 --> 01:41:15.039
Well, there' s one thing
that all public officials are subject to,

1317
01:41:15.239 --> 01:41:19.800
and it' s fiscal responsibility.
Today we have a signed contract that we

1318
01:41:19.880 --> 01:41:26.279
have to enforce and which, of
course, can have fiscal consequences for the

1319
01:41:26.399 --> 01:41:30.800
nation or the district. So lifting, let' s say the foot of

1320
01:41:30.840 --> 01:41:35.680
the accelerator to say it in some
way, or lifting the execution of this

1321
01:41:35.680 --> 01:41:41.760
contract has legal risks, not just
say in Bogotá, but of course,

1322
01:41:42.199 --> 01:41:48.560
international Remember to me the Sedec ki
that this is endorsed by multilateral banking and

1323
01:41:48.800 --> 01:41:54.319
we need to go out and meet
the commitments so that there is a very

1324
01:41:54.439 --> 01:41:57.039
important thing that calls legal security to
bring investment to this country. We need

1325
01:41:57.119 --> 01:42:00.800
to keep the contracts and this one
is the one with the largest infrastructure in

1326
01:42:00.840 --> 01:42:01.079
the country, because we have to
look good. But that' s what

1327
01:42:01.079 --> 01:42:05.720
he thinks there' s a risk
that President Petro, in the end,

1328
01:42:06.159 --> 01:42:10.880
we' ll excuse the expression,
he doesn' t give a damn,

1329
01:42:11.640 --> 01:42:15.960
the legal consequence, he cares about
the tax liability with him in order to

1330
01:42:15.000 --> 01:42:17.039
impose that underground meter view on the
first line. I think all the lights

1331
01:42:17.159 --> 01:42:21.279
are threatening us with that risk.
But that' s why I invite all

1332
01:42:21.359 --> 01:42:26.319
the Bogotans to close ranks and finally
shit the subway we call more than eighty

1333
01:42:26.600 --> 01:42:31.560
years looking for the Bogotans. Well, Don Orlando Villar ahead, President of

1334
01:42:31.720 --> 01:42:39.039
the Council, there is an alternative
measure or an alternative means of transport for

1335
01:42:39.079 --> 01:42:43.520
Bogotans is certainly the bicycle. There
are a large proportion of Colombians and Bogotans

1336
01:42:43.560 --> 01:42:46.119
who go out and use these cyclorutes. But there' s one aspect.

1337
01:42:46.439 --> 01:42:53.079
There are times when the tracks are
collapsed with vehicles and the cyclorute goes empty

1338
01:42:53.239 --> 01:42:57.640
or goes with very few bicycles and
then the extent of those cycle routes is

1339
01:42:57.680 --> 01:43:00.600
criticized. But there is also a
question of the six security that these cyclorutes

1340
01:43:00.600 --> 01:43:05.399
have. Many capitals would like to
take their bike, but they fear that

1341
01:43:05.399 --> 01:43:06.920
they will lose their lives, even
because they steal it. The bike.

1342
01:43:08.279 --> 01:43:11.359
It touches on several themes Orlando Billiards
and those we live in, those we

1343
01:43:11.399 --> 01:43:15.720
transit, for example, that cycle
route of the seventh race in Bogota we

1344
01:43:15.800 --> 01:43:19.880
see movement in the peak hours of
the morning of departure to work something also

1345
01:43:20.000 --> 01:43:25.760
in the afternoon on the return,
but in the day is sometimes absolutely alone

1346
01:43:25.760 --> 01:43:30.000
and, moreover, on some cycles
routes, the lack of public lighting for

1347
01:43:30.000 --> 01:43:33.119
safety. So several themes there with
salvaine. Yeah, there' s one

1348
01:43:33.199 --> 01:43:36.640
thing we have to promote in this
city and this is gonna sound weird.

1349
01:43:36.720 --> 01:43:42.079
It is called regulatory governance, which
is regulatory governance. Once a regulation is

1350
01:43:42.239 --> 01:43:45.880
issued, it needs to be evaluated. Yes, it was a good measure,

1351
01:43:46.520 --> 01:43:50.960
for example, and a great example
may be the route cycle of the

1352
01:43:50.960 --> 01:43:55.439
Seventh. There is what can be
done, because I agree with you gabo

1353
01:43:55.520 --> 01:43:59.600
in peak hour works very well for
people who move around, but in time

1354
01:43:59.600 --> 01:44:02.960
Valle is a lane that loses,
for example, the Seventh or the corridor,

1355
01:44:03.640 --> 01:44:06.720
one of the most important corridors in
the city. Why not see,

1356
01:44:08.000 --> 01:44:13.359
for example, the possibility that in
time valley the cyclorute will be removed.

1357
01:44:14.359 --> 01:44:20.199
Now all this requires technical studies to
make decisions. I believe that many times,

1358
01:44:20.359 --> 01:44:25.000
although I am a supporter of the
cycle route, of the bicycle,

1359
01:44:25.680 --> 01:44:30.880
I sometimes ride bicycles when I can
climb patios. But we need to assess

1360
01:44:30.960 --> 01:44:34.920
in Bogotá whether all the cyclorutes have
been decided whether or not they exist technically.

1361
01:44:36.680 --> 01:44:41.600
We simply have to pick up and
the safety of the routes, well,

1362
01:44:41.840 --> 01:44:45.239
within other things, but we want
today we are talking about mobility and

1363
01:44:45.279 --> 01:44:47.720
that is why we stay in that
safety in the public lighting. Yeah,

1364
01:44:47.920 --> 01:44:53.079
I totally agree. Bogota has to
light up a city where there is light

1365
01:44:53.479 --> 01:44:56.560
look at it is that security has
to be understood in a cross- sectional

1366
01:44:56.560 --> 01:45:00.600
way. If I in a route
cycle don' t have an a to

1367
01:45:00.720 --> 01:45:03.119
light up that path, I feel
insecure. So I know something that doesn

1368
01:45:03.119 --> 01:45:05.760
' t have to do with certainty, because that' s a subject in

1369
01:45:05.840 --> 01:45:09.359
this cool case is that we'
re pretty sure. We have some lamps

1370
01:45:09.399 --> 01:45:16.279
in this program and in Bogotá has
Lamp shelter that say ok light up then

1371
01:45:16.319 --> 01:45:20.039
totally according to you. I spoke
to the director of the wa EST and

1372
01:45:20.119 --> 01:45:24.199
this time, for the development plan, darkness is the main accomplice of insecurity

1373
01:45:24.239 --> 01:45:29.920
in the case of cyclorutes. Also, for one who played villari is road

1374
01:45:30.039 --> 01:45:31.720
safety, for example, if I
don' t see where I' m

1375
01:45:31.920 --> 01:45:35.159
going, well, I run a
huge risk. I was telling him.

1376
01:45:35.199 --> 01:45:41.800
Then I spoke with the director of
the PAS with comfort and comfort she promised

1377
01:45:41.840 --> 01:45:47.159
me that in the development plan there
was again a very important investment for luminaires

1378
01:45:47.159 --> 01:45:50.840
in Bogotá. Well, well,
thank you, Seal Vaina. But since

1379
01:45:50.880 --> 01:45:57.760
you' re judging our humorists today. Here' s the little friend'

1380
01:45:57.760 --> 01:46:02.479
s bill. Well, Miguito,
you' re playing it too. It

1381
01:46:02.520 --> 01:46:04.560
' s going to be Vaina,
good afternoon she gets the crazy laugh juice.

1382
01:46:04.600 --> 01:46:08.199
Now you have to pass the test. No yes, of course in

1383
01:46:08.279 --> 01:46:12.159
civil works, Gabrielito, a question
that Dr Vaina asks here will be that

1384
01:46:12.279 --> 01:46:15.159
the masons of the works and Bogotá
go to heaven for their good works.

1385
01:46:15.760 --> 01:46:17.159
Oh, that' s nice of
you to look at, yes, very

1386
01:46:17.159 --> 01:46:23.800
nice, yes, yes, making
british, but well, they' re

1387
01:46:23.800 --> 01:46:26.880
questions to answer after the listeners.
Speaking of gablito mobility, we have a

1388
01:46:26.920 --> 01:46:30.399
language joke. How so, how
it is said in different languages. Mr

1389
01:46:30.840 --> 01:46:34.720
cabbie, three blocks away, we' re here, Mr cabbie, three

1390
01:46:34.800 --> 01:46:36.520
blocks away, we' re here. Yeah, okay, let' s

1391
01:46:36.640 --> 01:46:41.680
see what you say? Yeah?
We start with gabrielil English to see what

1392
01:46:41.720 --> 01:46:46.720
it looks like. Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yes

1393
01:46:47.800 --> 01:46:56.560
only to blogs seef in English oli
what only your blogs? Put your blogs

1394
01:46:56.560 --> 01:47:01.640
down, leo ok in two tangled
quays. We have already arrived to light

1395
01:47:01.720 --> 01:47:06.840
if it may be that to arrive, to leave it, yes, to

1396
01:47:06.920 --> 01:47:11.840
bread it in quite ralen in Italian
better tas and it was necessary to say

1397
01:47:11.920 --> 01:47:16.039
the pronunciation well, because if not, the dotor bena can be confused of

1398
01:47:16.039 --> 01:47:19.520
languages opportunity is like i rive in
sublogs. We could say drive. Yes,

1399
01:47:19.960 --> 01:47:24.399
yes, or Mr. Driver or
b or good? Mr. R.

1400
01:47:24.800 --> 01:47:27.760
Holly you small block yes well,
well already, but not in Italian.

1401
01:47:27.800 --> 01:47:31.840
Get better in Italian. Mr Iman
and Dyslete Distance, we' re

1402
01:47:32.680 --> 01:47:34.880
up, we' re up,
we' re up, we' re

1403
01:47:34.880 --> 01:47:34.880
up, we' re up,
we' re up, we' re

1404
01:47:34.880 --> 01:47:34.880
up, we' re up,
we' re up, we' re

1405
01:47:34.880 --> 01:47:34.880
up, we' re up,
we' re up, we' re

1406
01:47:34.880 --> 01:47:34.880
up, we' re up,
we' re up, we' re

1407
01:47:34.880 --> 01:47:38.079
up. You' re telling him
no, that' s cute. He

1408
01:47:38.119 --> 01:47:42.359
takes away the man, yes,
he' s cute and looks at him,

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because one says we are. In
French, Gablito, in French,

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missil lege fog he tic en nrc
quiu Pat you know that he is uttering

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my very well. I understand French
French, it' s perfect, you

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don' t understand anything, but
you promise very well. And in Colombian

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gably like my n this is not
the next one, the next one.

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No, not for this one,
not the other one already saw happened or

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lost. That' s what happened, but that' s good, good.

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Thank you very much for joining us
today, here on Caracol Radio and

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in the look of nothing. Thank
you very much. I hope I'

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ll be back.