#331 WWDC'24 al descubierto: iOS 18 con IA, Telegram y USA vs Apple

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Hello. Very good night, how
are you, how are you welcome,

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welcome Alice in Nacole Life episode three
hundred and thirty- one. Today we

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don' t have an exciting podcasting
night. We are all very hot with

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the iPad theme, with the Wold
White Developer Conference theme, with the artificial

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intelligent theme ay is eighteen Apple Vision
Pro and many more things we have ahead,

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as I tell you, a program
certainly on an exciting podcast night.

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Very good Antonio Recio. How are
you, how are you, girls,

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how are you? There we are
heard well, well, not perfect.

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From here in Valmoral de la Farada, in the Canary Islands. Ah no

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wait, wait Ostia sorry, I
think not, no. No, since

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the playita playita vacation or well,
as nothing enjoy the holidays of Easter yus

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of torrijas and artito. I haven' t tried any yet. Uncle look,

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David Sanchez, where you are,
where you are. I' m

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at my close house in Madrid today. I just got back today. That

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' s right, I' m
telling you. I' ve become scarce

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now. But well, well prepared
to give everything and with the themes we

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bring, we have many, many
themes. I don' t know if

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everyone will be in a Pedro Rivas
show horita how about good night, how

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you' re welcome from Madrid.
I really want to be with you again.

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I haven' t been here for
two weeks, and you' ve

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put my long teeth in discord.
I said I was really looking forward to

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it and let' s see if
we' re talking about little things from

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my iPad, Apple, the World
Way Conference. Or yes, well,

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let' s say good night.
Hey, we' ve moved on to

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discord on the subject of telegram polemics. Maybe we' ll talk tonight,

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which will give us time. We' ve moved to discord. Then the

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VIP community is this hour in discord
and we have Joseph among us, José

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Te, today pedro who is baptized
like him and is watered, Well,

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my mother, eye eye you are
in apocalypse, but who has said that

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pardon, José Te, José Te
del podcast, from the corner of Fusete.

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But Jose looks good, damn it, of course I did. I

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could call the pope, no,
but less that joke. I' ve

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done it to him many times,
but he says no. No, no,

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you' ve been told, you' ve been told by people who

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see well that indeed, that I' m handsome, I say well,

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you' re very Guapo Pedro,
welcome from Madrid, Josélain welcome from the

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Canary Islands. Good night, family, so look. Here are other little

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amanitas more than Easter week' s
week and nothing to not give it all

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tonight. Let' s give him
everything tonight. And what we' re

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not going to give is iPad,
because the iPad hasn' t come out

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yet. Not even the iPad.
Eir, there were rumors last week that

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maybe the pro was late, but
that er could come out on Tuesday 26

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March. And that' s not
even what I mean. It' s

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almost Thursday and the iPad hasn'
t come out yet and I think we

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' re going to open at least
Antonio, such fatal. I think those

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of us who are expecting some of
those products and I expect something, but

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I can never hope better said.
But people like Pedro, who are crazy

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lost there with the product coming out, imagine, have to be happy Pedro.

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From the chat we have the corner
of Joseta that tells us where the

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lightd of Pedrito, Pedrito, you
are eating your nails. Hey me,

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I' m eating my nails because
I already feel like it. I was

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hoping that two or three weeks ago
we were introduced to it' s iPad

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pro. What I have to doubt
I don' t know how you see

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it is the reasons for the delay. I don' t know if it

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' s why I know. Marketing
theme, production theme, theme that they

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want to rush closer to the developer
conference, theme that is not really ready.

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He' s got me a little
lost. Not because we always had

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a kin out there. So spring
of early spring this year no and more,

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and that means more than waiting for
the iPad than I well I mean

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me, I know I' ve
been waiting for the iPad pro like May

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water. He' s got me
a little lost in these months. Sapple,

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don' t mean what he'
s going to do, because he

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' s not going to do an
akin anymore or he shouldn' t have

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announced it, or he might announce
it or he might take it out with

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another one. I got lost in
Apple on this two, twenty- four,

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and you guys got me freaked out, and totally if you haven'

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t gone out yet, the iPads
are' cause they' re up to

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something. There' s some theory
out there that we have in the PIP

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DEISA group. I think he was
commenting yesterday. Says man, if the

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iPads haven' t come out,
maybe it' s all over the move

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you have now over America' s
demand, that we' ll talk about

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it also because of the changes in
the European Union, that we' ll

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talk about it tonight as well.
And maybe it' s that Apple'

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s at a delicate moment and maybe
they' re focusing on other places.

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And maybe that' s why the
iPads, who look like they' re

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coming out this month, are running
late or not. Or maybe Escapper'

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s making some fat stuff we'
ll see soon. We will comment today

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on the program three hundred and thirty- one Delis in Nacodela and we will

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greet the people who are in Chandra, nice people who are entering the chat,

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Frank Hill and Iván Eduardo, the
corner of José te. We have

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Juan Luis Ugalde Moreno, we have
JRC Mundo sn totaque that we have José

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Antonio Morante, we have Raúl macías
no ticul Luisin García pires that as you

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are friend my power By, Pedro, Luis d B d Alex Luna good

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night. All of you who are
entering the border will give prominence to all

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your comments and we put a little
rock for the body and take over.

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But I already challenged one thing,
so I haven' t been here for

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two weeks and they don' t
know what I wanted to say. Sergio

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pomos the guitar. We' re
going to s s s s te,

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because it' s official. Apple
announced this week that the week of June

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10- 14 will have Wold White
Developer Conference. Specifically on Monday, June

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10th, we will start with a
presentation where we will learn about the new

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software from all Apple platforms. Eighteen
MacOS, fifteen visions, two and maybe

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something related to City. There,
on Twitter, Greg Just Wiyac, Apple

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' s Vice President of Marketing,
has said on Twitter or on x Com

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has referred to a rather curious comment. I' m gonna prick you guys,

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okay, and we' re gonna
see it. Well, I'

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m talking about it, and now
I' m pinching it. It says

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just that wiet saying this is going
to be absolutely amazing with the a and

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the I in capital, saying it' s I artificial intelligence in English.

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Watch out. Eye with the wink
that gives us the Creck bonus, because

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it seems to me that there are
certainly going to come things of artificial intelligent

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in this well way of Ploper Conference. I' m gonna go talk about

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it I' m gonna pin it, yeah, which is what I'

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m gonna tell you. No,
I think I have two big Incas.

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I have three unknowns at our developer
conference. First, artificial intelligence of what

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everyone is talking about how Apple is
going to integrate it. Summarizing still a

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lot and a dressing gown. I
think we all agree that you' re

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going to do it your way,
your way, on iron, GPT and

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so on. Second, you can
talk about the Developers' Conference in general

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or the AI. Let' s
talk about it, let' s talk

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about the difference. Yeah, okay, well. The second thing that I

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' m very curious about is how
it' s going to coordinate the different

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operating systems or whether it' s
going to bend to the operating systems that

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it' s going to implement in
an Apple European or it' s going

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to go on with well, let' s say it' s involved in

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having an operating system that' s
not complying with the regulation of digital markets

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in the United States other than the
European Union. I am very, very

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curious, because knowing how it is
going to solve But, that is,

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we already know that this involves the
implementation of the law on digital markets in

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the European Union. It' s
almost an operating system or new, so

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I want to see how far Apple
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Conference. And thirdly, one thing
I' m pretty obsessed with, with

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the Developers' Conference. I say
this year after year by these dates,

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but I still have hope for IPA
two, or that it will be the

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year. Please, it wasn'
t last year, it wasn' t

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two years ago, it wasn'
t to borrow. But there aren'

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t two more things. I mean, I' m sorry to repeat myself,

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but things you don' t need
a MAC with, I mean,

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I don' t care if I
work differently. I don' t care

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that things will be different. Ask
for a MacOS, but I ask you

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to really miss night on a trip, a mac and I can pack an

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iPad without fear. It' s
not gonna happen. That' s not

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gonna happen. Pedro, we all
have that hope at work and it'

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s not going to happen. It' s not going. But don'

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t think that perhaps the delay of
the iPads indicates that we could go through

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an iPad post more caneño and that
maybe the new iPads would come out the

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WELBWI Developer conferences say or you know
this is iPad s and these are the

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new iPads that take advantage of all
the new ones that are coming. I

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was about to tell you. Done, when you put the other day on

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discord, I don' t know
what you put on as a good thing

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or announce the Developers' Conference,
but Peter' s iPad still doesn'

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t come to such. So I
thought, it didn' t give me

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time to write it down, but
I thought jo or if you ginais that

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they' re booking at least the
new iPad for the presentation at the Developers

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' Conference, which we already know
is not a propitious or natural scenario for

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Howard to come forward. We know
that, but sea has once passed.

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No, but it' s a
good thing that this new disease is so

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integrated, with the new CYPADAs and
with a m3. I don' t

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know what, that really ten in
functionalities that relate to the new operating system

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presented and such I don' t
know. I' ll leave it there.

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There' s a lot of dreaming. I know what, but well,

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fuck it would be fine. I
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we' ve been introduced to iPads
yet. But who knows is that you

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learn that I don' t wish, I say you pass, Peter I

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mean, I totally agree. I
wish, come in, but I'

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m also sure it won' t
happen, I mean. Antonio is telling

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me unbelieving and such, but it' s just that I think it'

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s not going to happen, that
is Apple' s headstrong and he'

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s already got uncle and believer I' m telling Pedro, uh, ah,

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okay, okay, okay, well, but for two sure, of

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course, that' s right with
his head or he' s got Apple.

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Let' s just say it.
We want a more similar operating system,

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that is. I' m not
gonna tell Sonoma Aventura anymore, I

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' m gonna tell Macco s lion
I mean. I' m going to

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go to the remote past, I' m going to go to the basic,

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to the most basic, something like
that, to Maco alone I,

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to me I would use an iPad
but we have nothing or half like it.

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It' s also true that many
of us have the iPhone and we

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say well, because when I have
the Mac, which is my main working

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tool, you hear out of the
home with the iPhone, I practically do

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everything. Even I defend that Max
is doing very well, because I practically

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do everything with the iPhone. It' s just that the iPad is the

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same as the iPhone. It takes
him away. We ask for things from

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the iPad that the iPhone doesn'
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when they have a twin operating system, the iPad will do more than the

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iPhone. But it is not for
me to open a debate. Opens a

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melon you can give for an entire
podcast, which is the future, the

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future of Lipad as a device.
That is what you would repaint it seems

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to us that they are in a
valley state the iPad, that well,

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that it had a rise, that
everyone had an iPad and that a moment

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has come as of relaxation. That
curve and it needs something to reinvent itself

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and to separate itself, to separate
itself even more from the iphoneo because there

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were i conatos, there were attempts, we solved ourselves. But it doesn

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' t feel like having at hand
an iPhone fifteen pro Max, you don

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' t miss the iPad says buff
so that I' m going to catch

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the lipast is that it' s
going to do the same to me,

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the Life isn' t really there. That IPA reinvention. VI is necessary.

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Or not. Same. No,
anyway, there' s no repo,

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no, but it' s true
that the IPA would have to take

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a step forward. Likewise, hair
you zero seven. He tells us in

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the chat Pedro that he would make
you work on an iPad because you don

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' t understand what he wants,
what you want, the shortcomings you say

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the iPad has, what they are. You can detail it a little bit.

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Yes, I want to do a
podcast with the iPad, that is

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we have said it sometimes I repeat
it a lot, but choosing the source

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of output and audio input seems to
me a basic thing that an iPad pro

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at least an iPad pro has to
have, so I put myself on the

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MAC I am doing the podcast the
following way. I have the aird pots

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and the audio output, obviously that' s why the audio input is from

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the microphone. I can' t
do this, at least natively on an

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iPad. There is another problem that
is true that it is not from Apple,

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but it is from developers, and
well I include in Apple developer.

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I work with the swied offind a
lot. And the irthel isn' t

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the same on mac on iPad.
And the word is not the same on

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mac as on iPad. You can
work, yes, but at the same

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level of perfection and professionalism, that
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I believe that not I honestly,
I notice many shortcomings. There is another

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thing that maybe what we dedicate ourselves
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such because this I listen to him, is a recurrent complaint from our compañero

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Martín It is, for example,
in the management of digital certificates is horrible.

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On the lipad you can' t
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problem is that you don' t
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you have to juggle pirouettes to put
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It' s just that we'
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I arguing for four or five podcasts
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on the digital certificate and to sign
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on Windows is very easy. The
point is, in the LIPAN, not

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the fucking summary. He' s
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say is not to be afraid to
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of work without missing anything. That' s my experience and I love the

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iPad. I mean. I love
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iPad pro, but I think it' s Rankedipa two. That little point

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I insist is that I don'
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don' t want to work like
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same functionalities. We had zamen on
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on Twitch waiting for a crack hug, it' s true. It'

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s been two episodes since we left
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YouTube. The truth is, I
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because I, I know, most
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we were alone on Twitch, because
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numbers. But now, as most
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we want the live ones only on
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end it' s the same.
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I hope it won' t be
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I have a little thing to nuance, come on, baptize. Add to

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what Pedro said, and I think
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big iPhone, that is, like
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that much of the blame is on
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you can' t offer me the
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as you have the screen on the
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right, they have to be different. They have to offer another series

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of functions the moment you separate operating
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evolve, as you well say,
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interface and also new features. Of
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that Apple itself is leaving the iPad
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because we' re seeing the last
three years. Practically how functions reach

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the iPhone and these functions do not
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iPad. A year later the Witchets
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the Lepa arrived a year later and
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we still have shortcomings on the iPad
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same, there are limitations of absurd
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Mams, is that it wouldn'
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already on the iPad and you have
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rightly says, with a different interface, with a larger screen, because with

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an interface adapted for that large screen. I don' t know. I

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don' t know if Apple'
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Antonio, how you see it with
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iPad in mobility work. Well,
I agree that a lot of things to

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say to them I disagree with some
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For example, I think it stops
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a paat today, I can already
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eight percent support if from what they
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going to do it on weekends or
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days. So it' s not
your main function to work. I understand

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you don' t need a premium
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her So I think it' s
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No. David, for example,
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we' ve been together using the
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around Spain and we haven' t
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for example, takes another team,
that is, he doesn' t have

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another main team back then. Well, I think in the mangan and the

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hotel and I carry the past iPad
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that' s why, that'
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s very wet. But once you
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is, to sit back and regularize
everything you' ve done in the field,

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the iPad doesn' t serve the
iPad. That' s where it

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' s limited and where it'
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it' s stubborn in the end. If Apple really listens to us users,

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it' s an Apple Iban head
office, for example, in the

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chat that is highlighting now Sergio Sta
if Apple has it very easy. Get

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out, get out a hybrid system
in which, when you' re going

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to be mobile or ipato is and
when today you already have processor and transmission

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power, make a kind of voucher, a kind of dedex and when you

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put it on screen, you have
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mean, you think Apple doesn'
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thing, but it already looks like
right now, it' s a lot

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like it, but it' s
missing to finish it, it' s

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missing to give the final hit because
right now, that is, between the

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sonoma screen that well, I haven' t delivered the last update because it

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hasn' t been home. But
you have the dog, you have your

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apps. You have folders, you
have such, but it lacks the last

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touch of give me. Let me
organize it another way, a finder and

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it also needs a hilder to be
able to manage better. Still, we

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have the file application on the iPad. He' s improved. Jo eh,

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it' s better. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, it' s

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not exactly my complaint. It'
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in the lipadre is not accurate at
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well, each one will have some
needs based on the use it makes with

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the computer, mainly totally good,
because there we leave reflected our desires for

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the iPad. We' re going
to move on, let' s talk

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about artificial smart, and it'
s just that Mark Gurman from Bloomberg has

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given us details about it. It
tells us Apple isn' t launching any

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chatbots on the eighteen and the other
systems. Obviously, says Cabrón in artificial

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direction, but that he will work
in the shadow in the background, so

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that we will not see it and
integrate in some way a chat bot,

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because we had already speculated long ago
that if they put an artificial intelligent in

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Ios, it would be easy to
put it in the spot light, because

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we already have a searcher there.
Then it is easy to integrate a chatbot

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with which we can interact, just
like we do with Siri, but by

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text, perhaps it would be the
most appropriate site. Not good, Gurman

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says that if a chatbot came in
collaboration with open There, i e,

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with GPT shawl or with Jemi Nai, i e, with Google it seems

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that Apple, which is software,
especially Chatbot, would be more inclined to

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collaborate with the big manufacturers, who
already have better solutions to which perhaps it

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could provide appeal in the short term. Let' s not stop to see

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what happens, but that would also
reach a more efficient site, which now,

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because we all agree that it has
much to improve SIRI and also makes

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a very interesting size with the application
of messages, where we could auto complete

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sentences with a much more advanced predictive
language than we have now. Things of

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this style, as they could come
from artificial intelligent to second working in the

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background, without us really realizing that
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the operating system. They could also
come up with little things with shortcuts if,

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obviously, now we have intelligent artificial
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why not. The shortcut programming language
between Apple quotes, which is a sequential

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and event- oriented language, is
good that it is easy on but perhaps

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I don' t know it could
be facilitated a little bit more by telling

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Syrian and make me a shortcut that
makes this concrete and we didn' t

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have to go by instructing ourselves to
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t know that there was, like
chat GPT, developing code, because if

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I also developed this code between shortcut
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shortcut application. Perhaps it would be
interesting, but beyond this we will not

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see it, but certainly large doses
of it will come into it. It

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' s eighteen me in relation to
the shortcuts you were talking about, not

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so much, because you know that
I like to mess with it too,

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so don' t tell him I' ll tithe this and actually do it

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to me. But it does guide
you, because true that the place program

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cut many times is a headache.
Yeah, that, yeah, that,

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that' s true that' s
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Sure, then I get it perfectly. At least Apple, it'

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s at least Apple' s cool
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that' s programming language or sequential, something like pseudocode to make it easy.

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I understand it' s complicated.
Of course, the ones we'

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ve done programming and programmed the shortcuts
look like a toy to us. I

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mean, it' s something kids
do in elementary school, in internships.

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Now you know, so it'
s something tremendously simple. But for someone

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who doesn' t know how to
program, because maybe it makes him a

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world, obviously, but it'
s totally true that Siri is an existing

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to tell you this shortcut better,
this conditional. Put it in this other

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way that' s gonna work better
for you. I' d see it

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better. Yeah, an assistant that
if it' s you, I'

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ll see there and you' ll
do the shortcut. It would also be

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interesting if there was the assistant from
Syria and I corrected it for you,

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not that I told you to listen, because look at this here you have

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a problem and the problem is this. Maybe if you put it on,

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maybe you want to put this on
and you' ll do better with the

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shortcut or not. For example,
putting a very basic example, nexcel when

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you do a very extensive formula,
with several commands, with various functions and

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just when you give the enter,
tells you to correct it because you lack

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a parenthesis aki or you lack a
point there. Or this box isn'

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t well- defined and fucking World' s been doing it to you for

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a few years now. Yeah,
yeah, well, something like this and

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they' re going to anel chan
now tells us if they present Jemi neige

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Google in 18 for iPhone and iPad
systems, and company to see what face

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they defend data privacy that they so
fully defend. But I think this would

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be integrated with Google' s account. Therefore, who would have to explain

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in such a case would be Google, not Apple. I mean I imagine

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that by some extension, you could
integrate into the iPhone Spotlight a GPT chat

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or a Jemi NII or a copilot
or any artificial intelligence I insist as an

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extension within the Spotlight, as well
as save and came extensions years ago,

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because why you will not reach the
Spotlite extensions that potentiate what we can look

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for in the system. And if
we put a jemi NAI as an extension

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in Spotlight, really the sensitive data
from the Apple account will not go through

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there. But maybe we could search
Google using JEMINAE' s ia or ask

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you about things that a chat bot
usually answers to. Don' t look

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at this detail extensions on the Life
spot just occurred to me. But I

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think it' s an ugly idea, but I don' t see it

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It' s sergio It' s
just that when I think about Apple'

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s artificial intelligence, I don'
t think about the concept that we'

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re clear about, that is,
when you say Spotlight, it hits you

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because it' s the closest thing
to the concept of artificial intelligence. Thinking

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about st, that is, thinking
about little and this kind of intelligence.

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But I imagine, I imagine Apple' s artificial intelligence as first invisible and

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propositional. I invented the adjective for
an artificial intelligence, that is, I

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mean what is the greatest asset that
APA has with all of us propositions,

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not the ecosystem uncle i e,
Apple has an ecosystem and has a lot

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of information, not for privacy,
but a lot of information about your habits,

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your tastes, your photos, your
notes, your reminders, your habits.

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So, I imagine that invisible artificial
intelligence, but it' s going

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to propose to you, that'
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is, it' s going to
predict what you want at every moment.

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That information the Apple ecosystem gives you
is invaluable, because we have an iPhone,

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we have a watch, we have
an iPad. So before you notice

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that artificial intelligence based on bodinhajes chat
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is, your question hears in what
or is to redact me a demand for

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an urban lease. I don'
t know what you are, he answers

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you, but if you see an
artificial intelligence that the operating system itself,

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artificial intelligence is that the one who
takes the initiative and proposes you know what

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you want to tell me if what
is the same or not, proactive not.

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I imagine it a little bit like
this. I already said Bloomberg,

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I said Guorman says we' re
not going to see an Apple chat bot

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on the 18th. What we'
re going to see is doses of artificial

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smart in Apple native apps and at
most, if a chat bot came,

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I insist, it would come in
collaboration with chat kept or Google, with

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open there googles eject jemi, nay
cast GPT. That' s why I

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was talking about extensions, because it
fits me a lot like that. Hey,

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Chad Bottapple isn' t going to
integrate, Bloomberg has confirmed, but

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they' re going to get chatbot
hostia, because maybe it gets to this

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kind of extensions it said, and
the appropriate place would be the spot line.

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Not how you see it to you
what you' re going to say

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no. What I think is that
we can' t tell before in love.

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I can' t mix one thing
from the or I think I'

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m an assistant is worth the same
as the assistants from the other companies,

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and I think it equals being another
equal concept. No yes, I imagine

415
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the application of notes than the application
of no worse than the application of notes.

416
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Let' s have a little button
where we can tell him to write

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an essay on the subject that I
tell you the truth. I imagine,

418
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then, that the application of daily
journal would go a step further and would

419
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be more proactive with the information to
complete that personal diary of things we have

420
00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:33.079
done on that day. I imagine
that the calendar application would also have the

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artificial direction of background that I would
say, for example, to Antonio,

422
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who is a streamer who is always
working twenty- three hours a day,

423
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because to tell him listen, Antonio, it is eight and a half hours.

424
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:48.319
You' re still here on this
project working and you don' t

425
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:52.119
get to the Isennacode podcast tonight go
to dinner, as if you' re

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00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:56.240
not going to get things like that
without having any event on the calendar that,

427
00:31:56.839 --> 00:31:57.799
according to your habits, at the
exact end this would be. This

428
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is what seems to be confirming that
it will be appealed to God eighteen.

429
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:06.759
Not large doses of artificial intelligence,
but made available to native and user applications

430
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:13.759
proactively. Yeah, it' s
gonna be pretty cool. I' m

431
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:16.119
really hot on the subject of Peter. If you think we put musiqueta and

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go with Mr Rockero Pedro Rivas yes, tonizashis in NACODELAI episode of three hundred

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and thirty- one. We are
here with friend Pedro Rivas Nuestro and be

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a lawyer and he will explain in
detail what the US lawsuit against Apple is,

435
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because it has quite a crumb.
I am struck by the fact that

436
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since 17th century, Apple has been
implementing measures in the European Union and Pedro

437
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:19.680
told us today these things that will
come from the law of digital markets for

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00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:24.200
Europe. This is agreed with the
United States, this is going to come

439
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:27.720
for everyone as well. However,
with the arrival of 17 of them,

440
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we have seen Apple itself applying measures
of freedom to them in Europe. Being

441
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able to have third party stor,
being able to choose the main web browser,

442
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:45.519
by default, having the NFC open
for third parties as well and this

443
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:47.880
in the United States, for example, have it layered, as it has

444
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been so far. Well, after
the arrival of them four and implement these

445
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:57.759
measures, as we say, because
the United States has moved. Pedro'

446
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s file, yes, the problem
of the telegrano has been a great measure

447
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:07.160
of the houttelar of moving. I
read myself because I was asked about the

448
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:13.840
group then we talked about big TV
to Broma, because they were asking me

449
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:15.719
about these two topics and I was
reading a little bit. Yeah, well

450
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:22.079
I demand apl Pot by the U
S government. Let' s see,

451
00:34:22.320 --> 00:34:27.039
I think it' s good.
To sum up, people know the U

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S government has the ability to sue
Apple, to sue any company when it

453
00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:39.719
understands that it restricts free competition what
they call monopoly behavior in the U S.

454
00:34:39.920 --> 00:34:44.039
I do not like to use that
term, because the monopoly itself is

455
00:34:44.119 --> 00:34:45.440
not illegal, but it does not
have to be. But, well,

456
00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:57.320
the case, the U S government
has demanded Apple understanding what restrictions would be

457
00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:00.360
placed on free competition. But,
I mean, first of all, I

458
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:04.960
read the claim Sergio eighty- eight
Folio. I' ve read it,

459
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:07.320
I' ve done my homework and
I' ve got the whole law.

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And I want to highlight some jos. Last week Peter told you to study

461
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:15.280
this topic that we have to comment
on on podcast ot eighty- eight.

462
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It could be mine yes, yes, but because it seems curious to me,

463
00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:22.480
because they are not the typical things
that are read companies, because they

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00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:25.480
talk about homepots, talk about the
pluto of home poty and five or six

465
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:29.960
things that I want to highlight about
how this demand is based to see,

466
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:32.280
but for putting in context this demand. Let' s see this is the

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00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:37.119
third lawsuit filed by the US government
Apple of two thousand nine I want to

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00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:42.880
say that neither is it true that
the previous two were very specific, they

469
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.880
were by commissions. He was such. It is true that this demand is

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global in the sense that it attacks
Apple, its operating system, that is,

471
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as far as its cage is concerned, as far as it is the

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00:35:57.239 --> 00:35:59.440
tufillo that you read, that enters
you when you read. The demand is

473
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that what it is is criticizing is
that Apple is able to create a single

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ecosystem system forgiveness in which it is
very difficult to exit the user without paying

475
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:13.519
very expensive. And the second thing
you have to take into account to put

476
00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:16.880
it in context, is that this
kind of demand has already suffered as much

477
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:22.960
as Microsoft, as Google, etcetera. So it' s not a thing

478
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:27.000
either, a very new thing.
But what I would point out, as

479
00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:32.119
I say after reading this demand,
is that it is the first that,

480
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:38.639
without being specific, attacks all the
behaviors that the European digital telenoe market LED

481
00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:45.800
has wanted to avoid. That is
why I say that I am always very

482
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:50.840
good, because I suspect a lot
of the innocence of the United States,

483
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:55.679
of the innocence in the European Union
and this demand seems to have been taken

484
00:36:57.039 --> 00:37:00.239
by the prosecutor, the different prosecutors
who promote this demand, that of digital

485
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:05.320
markets and have said uff we are
going to mount a lawsuit with everything that

486
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:09.000
the European Union says, that,
in fact, it would have to fulfill

487
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:15.920
a company in order not to incur
a breach of defense in the competition and

488
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:19.400
among those things that the demand highlights, because it is the following, that

489
00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:22.119
is, the demand. He makes
concrete examples. Concrete examples. Hey,

490
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:27.239
for instance. The first example he
gives you is why he' s so

491
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:31.000
closed to them. They focus a
lot on is because it' s so

492
00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:36.960
closed to ilos or the iPhone in
general to the rest of smart Watch,

493
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:45.880
for example, it' s a
garming that isn' t obviously Apple'

494
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:53.239
s watch, because it can'
t because it' s capped with access

495
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:55.920
to different notifications, access to geolocation, certain accesses. Anyway, another example

496
00:37:57.039 --> 00:38:01.599
he puts is the game in the
cloud, which has always been very curious

497
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:10.679
to us. This restriction restricts game
applications in the cloud, such as the

498
00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:17.840
moon, as the stereo and so
on. In addition, he dedicates the

499
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:25.880
prosecutor to screw three leaflets, saying
that to justify that restricting the applications of

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00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:34.079
the game in cloud responds to want
to reduce or that these games, that

501
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:36.599
is, the game in the cloud, reduces the importance of hardware. Therefore,

502
00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:40.320
Apple is not interested in that it
is true that they are somewhat artificial

503
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:45.679
arguments for which we know each other. Besides, Apple and its philosophy is

504
00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:53.840
not good. Another example is that
of serpots, not homepots. This demand

505
00:38:53.920 --> 00:39:01.760
is criticized and it is given as
an example that for a normal user it

506
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:07.320
would be very very difficult from a
phone, that it is not an iPhone,

507
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:09.079
to throw music to a home pot, not something that is true,

508
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:12.719
that is to say the home weighter
very closed. And you understand that that

509
00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:16.679
restriction is totally artificial and that,
because it promotes that you have an iPhone

510
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:21.960
and that it costs you to buy
an Android once you have bought a Home

511
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:27.760
Pot, not because you would be
losing not a functionality, but a hardware

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00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:31.079
device. Integer. It also criticizes
one thing that has changed in the European

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00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:35.559
ne. You were commenting on it
earlier, I was telling you that Google

514
00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:40.639
is the search engine. By default, also things afar you eh ah vale

515
00:39:40.679 --> 00:39:45.239
de safari. Well, of course
you do, you know what' s

516
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:45.719
going on. It just doesn'
t seem like a coincidence to me.

517
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:52.320
You mean when the digital market law
came out, some, including Bloomberg Mar

518
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:53.480
Gurman, said no. No,
but it' s just that in Europe

519
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:58.079
it' s going to be one
thing and America is going to be another

520
00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:00.239
and everyone fell down. I thought
it was weird. I thought first of

521
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:01.840
all, it' s normal for
them to open it for everyone. However,

522
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:06.599
what Apple decided was in Europe,
open it, open the NFC,

523
00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:09.760
open the main browser, that is, that you can choose Saffary, or

524
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:14.880
that you can choose Croum, or
that you can choose fire Fox or Microsofthecht

525
00:40:14.960 --> 00:40:17.760
or whatever, but not install it
as now, but that it had its

526
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:22.280
own kernel, because now, so
far, at least, all the web

527
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:27.000
browsers you installed on iPhone were Safari, but with the appearance of third-

528
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:31.440
party web browser. But the core
was Shaffary, it was Safari, the

529
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:34.920
same engine. Not then now.
No, now you can have the crom

530
00:40:35.000 --> 00:40:37.920
engine can reach the iPhone, at
least in Europe. Of course, with

531
00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:43.679
the arrival of two hundred and four, Apole implemented these freedoms for the European

532
00:40:43.800 --> 00:40:45.920
cloud, but not for the rest
of the world. So, of course,

533
00:40:45.159 --> 00:40:50.199
it seems to me a lot of
chance that right now, when you

534
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:53.519
have implemented these improvements for the European
Union, because it comes to Apple and

535
00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:59.000
it seems to me that it is
related to this, that what you want

536
00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:02.599
is the United States. What he
wants is for Apple to make the same

537
00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:06.039
changes that he has made in Europe, so that they make them in the

538
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:09.840
United States, that they accept third- party stor, that they accept third

539
00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:13.159
- party browsers, that they open
in NFC for everyone, and so on.

540
00:41:13.840 --> 00:41:16.599
And I want to remember that the
two thousand years, Microsoft was sued

541
00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:27.320
for monopoly Netscape sued for monopoly by
Internet Explorer, because Microsoft Windows made Internet

542
00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:34.119
Explorer mandatory by default on all operational
topics, all computers that had Windows.

543
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:38.679
No And well, because in the
end it was unfair competition against third-

544
00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:42.840
party browsers like Nets gape is what
the other one is doing with Safar.

545
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:46.119
The producer doesn' t let,
among other things, among other things,

546
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:51.760
what is Apple doing now with Safari? Apple now forces iPhone users to use

547
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:57.239
Safari And if you accept in the
App Store third- party browsers, it

548
00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:02.760
' s because they have Safari'
s search engine and then the aesthetics,

549
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:07.320
the appearance of Firefox, Chrome or
the browsers that it' s worth,

550
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:10.239
but the search engine is the same. Therefore, it is not advisable to

551
00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:14.559
put a third party browser because they
will always go worse than that Fari,

552
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:19.440
because it is Safari, but with
another layer above it, which makes it

553
00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:22.320
visually look different, but it hinders
at the end. The end result.

554
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:27.960
Not then, because it will be
surprising that in the two thousand years Microsoft

555
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:31.519
was sued for monopoly for the case
of interpretexpro reprsus Netscape and that Apple in

556
00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:35.320
two thousand twenty- four was doing
the same and nothing would have happened.

557
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:38.599
So, well, Europe made this
move and now it looks like America is

558
00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:42.960
looking for the same thing. Yes, yes, yes, but to me

559
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:50.039
several things already as final reflection.
It seems to me that this was sung,

560
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:55.599
that a lawsuit like this Apple in
the United States played independently of what

561
00:42:55.719 --> 00:43:00.519
we defend or there are no people
who actually defend. I want an Apple

562
00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:06.360
closed. I, though good,
do not favor free competition. Everything is

563
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:12.280
very respectable, but I believe that
from the point of view of legislation policy,

564
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:20.239
it was coming. It was very
sung that this was going to happen

565
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:24.840
in the United States and the future
is also clear to me the United States,

566
00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:29.119
all the lawsuits, all the prosecutors
are acting according to what the European

567
00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:30.599
has already done. What surprises me
and I don' t know why they

568
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:37.119
don' t, perhaps by the
strength of the LOBI in America. It

569
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:40.159
is, then, to regulate with
European formation, because in the end,

570
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:45.679
to bring such a lawsuit is difficult, because you have concepts as generic as

571
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:50.639
free competition, such a monopoly.
But how does that materialize? The European

572
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:52.000
Union has, indeed, been able
to put that into practice, that is,

573
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:57.920
to say in a regulation. Hey
there can be no default browsers and

574
00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:01.079
you can not have predetermined so much
service on commissions. Such then, if

575
00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:06.519
the United States is really looking for
that, why it does not approve there

576
00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:08.519
is already in the US Parliament.
But why don' t you directly pass

577
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:12.559
a law that clearly says what you' re looking for in the background?

578
00:44:12.639 --> 00:44:15.960
Because it' s clear what they' re looking for. And finally,

579
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:20.440
I don' t know if he
has any relationship with me. I'

580
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:29.960
d like to think that, like
at the Developers' Conference, we'

581
00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:32.079
ll see something in this respect,
I mean, no, I mean,

582
00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:36.639
it might not, so the United
States throws in the towel and says hears

583
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:38.199
for not having a different operating system. It' s nine eighteen. I

584
00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:43.840
' m having trouble in America.
I' m getting million- dollar lawsuits

585
00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:47.199
that can change Apple' s story
in the sense that hearing has dropped the

586
00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:52.559
bag seven percent or four percent since
this lawsuit was announced. He will say

587
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:55.079
hear, for so far that is, no, I will not, I

588
00:44:55.119 --> 00:44:59.679
will not fight, against myself and
I will give in and I will bring

589
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:01.440
out myself. It' s operational
in the European Union, in the United

590
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:05.320
States. I think so. I
believe that in them eighteen is the time

591
00:45:05.360 --> 00:45:07.360
to see it, and it is
no coincidence that the demand of the United

592
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:12.800
States comes right now, after them
seventeen four and before the launch of them

593
00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:17.679
eighteen. I think I would play
that, because in the eighteenth years they

594
00:45:17.760 --> 00:45:23.000
were already allowed to install these from
third parties on all Siphone and iPad and

595
00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:28.679
that third- party browsers could arrive
with their own engine, that the NFC

596
00:45:28.960 --> 00:45:30.760
would open, etcetera, etcetera.
But let' s see if what you

597
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:35.840
said yesterday we in the VIP Group
in discore were commenting with isa that well,

598
00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:38.400
because that defended that she liked Safari
and I also prefer Safari over another

599
00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:44.079
browser, even in mac that we
have that freedom to choose the browser with

600
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:51.920
its own engine. I am the
main one is Afari Vale and I also

601
00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:54.079
want to use the Appstop because it
is safer. If we understand all the

602
00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:59.079
benefits of this, then I speak
paper. Defende is true Vale has his

603
00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:04.159
reason, but of course one thing
is seeing it from the point of view

604
00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:07.920
of user, I do better Safari
usa Fari I do better Lapstop, because

605
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:10.320
it is a super safe system.
I want to keep using lappstor the same

606
00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:14.920
and don' t change it anymore. But from an economic point of view,

607
00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:21.960
perhaps it is unfair competition for a
platform to force you to make certain

608
00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:24.039
movements. Not sure. Of course, one thing is that I like it

609
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:28.679
and that I like to saffle i
APPS as it is. And another thing

610
00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:32.440
is that, giving a pass and
looking at things in perspective, understanding that

611
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:37.719
there are more people in the world, he hears, because there are other

612
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:44.159
scenarios where there are people who want
to economically, because they get alternatives and

613
00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:45.000
they leave us. No. Then
maybe that can' t be done.

614
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:52.039
No. Yeah, yeah, yeah, some comments, guys. Or we

615
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:58.519
' re going to telegram, we' re going to telegram, come on,

616
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:01.320
Pedro, we' re going to
telegram, we' re going to

617
00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:04.400
telegram, we' re going to
telegram. The other day I sent an

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00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:07.599
audio because Jose asked me to and
more people asked me and what happened to

619
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:12.920
telegram. And besides, I like
to tell it from the objective point of

620
00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:17.239
view. Then we will comment,
but to know what has happened, because

621
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:25.920
it explains many things. Let'
s see chronologically half thirst to three half

622
00:47:25.920 --> 00:47:32.960
annoy. Well, they filed a
complaint before the national hearing against and this

623
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:38.559
is important, the headlines, that
is, the people who were having channels

624
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:47.199
through which protected content was shared,
specifically football is worth. This complaint is

625
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:52.199
directed exclusively against persons who own these
channels that make this protected material available.

626
00:47:55.960 --> 00:48:00.280
What happened? That you know that
in any criminal procedure there is a first

627
00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:04.440
phase, which is the investigation,
which is the investigation, before the oral

628
00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:07.679
phase is opened, in which the
judges collect evidence through the police, through

629
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:14.760
different stages to assemble. Let'
s say the case as they say in

630
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:21.039
America, then what happened. Which, obviously, the fundamental proof is to

631
00:48:21.039 --> 00:48:24.760
call telegram, write to telegram and
say hear that I have this complaint.

632
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:29.000
I' m a judge from Spain
at the National High Court. Please give

633
00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:37.719
me the data of the people who
are holders of these channels to do this.

634
00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:40.840
The problem is that when you are
in Spain, that company is very

635
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:46.679
easy. Problem is, when they' re in another country and they'

636
00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:52.559
re on islands, I don'
t remember now. But anyway, a

637
00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:58.239
tax haven doesn' t remember it
right now is using a rogatory commission.

638
00:48:58.719 --> 00:49:01.079
A rogatory commission is that the website
is in contact with the Government of that

639
00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:06.199
country and through agreements, as judicial
assistance is requested for the notification to be

640
00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:10.559
sent to it. In this case
to telegram. That requirement was not met

641
00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:16.639
by the telegram country. I think
he made the mistake. I think he

642
00:49:16.679 --> 00:49:22.159
made the mistake of not saying anything, not not not even giving the names

643
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:25.960
or revealing the ownership or data of
these people, but saying or moo.

644
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:32.079
This happened in July of two thousand
twenty- three and, of course,

645
00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:36.960
eight months later, the judge of
Judge Pedraza, in this case of the

646
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:38.199
national hearing, and he says yes
yes that is, you will stop me

647
00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:42.480
an investigation, judge, because they
do not give me the data, because

648
00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:45.239
the only remedy I have is to
veneer it is not a total blockade.

649
00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:51.519
That total blockade is what we have
known in the news, which gave the

650
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:58.119
operators three months to produce the blockade
is over. Legally. That' s

651
00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:00.000
what' s planned, you can
do that. That' s lega,

652
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:04.800
but the only problem is that these
measures have to be proportional. It'

653
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:09.000
s worth that proportionality in others,
on other websites like me that be direct

654
00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:13.199
red, and such is more obvious, because ninety- eight percent of the

655
00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:15.280
content let' s say it'
s pirate. I mean, like it

656
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:20.000
isn' t inflicting intellectual property rights. Therefore, a blockade may be justified.

657
00:50:20.920 --> 00:50:22.360
The problem is that telegran is a
social network. Not then, that

658
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:28.519
pro posal of proportionality, as the
jurists say, is more debatable. Not

659
00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:31.079
that it' s happened, that
the flight has gone so far that in

660
00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:35.320
the end I told him the audio. The normal thing in these cases is

661
00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:39.039
to contact, that is, officiate
the technology departments of the police so that,

662
00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:44.639
well, then, they will tell
you through whatever it is. What

663
00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:50.719
could be a less burdensome measure to
get the identity or any data from the

664
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:54.360
owners of these channels. In the
end it' s made back. And

665
00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:58.440
indeed, that' s when you
asked the police. Hey, I'

666
00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:04.679
m putting this thing on hold,
and you' re asking the police what

667
00:51:04.760 --> 00:51:10.039
measures may be less harmful or less
radical to go against the headlines. I

668
00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:16.599
insist from these channels that illegal content
is available. The current situation, this

669
00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:21.000
precautionary measure, has declined. It' s not going to telegram again,

670
00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:23.760
it' s not going to close
anymore I don' t know what'

671
00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:28.000
s going on. And there'
s the thing. Irreparable damage to telegram.

672
00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:30.280
I think everyone in the world thinks
there' s been a lot of

673
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:36.000
escape. People like that will even
be people I' ve thought post telegram

674
00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:38.679
has still been winning because there are
people who have dropped the telegra and subscribed

675
00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:45.360
to telegram. But good summary.
This is what has happened, because it

676
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:47.360
is surprising, because on Friday,
the truth is that we heard the news

677
00:51:47.440 --> 00:51:51.199
that they were going to block the
telegram in the next few hours. There

678
00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:53.320
was speculation that on Monday we,
the weekend, did the migration to discord.

679
00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:57.480
I' m happy with discord.
We' re gonna stay with discord,

680
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:00.679
' cause he' s got voice
chats. So here we get out

681
00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:07.800
of half- slack, Skype and
Telegram. Okay I like discord, but

682
00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:09.519
well what you' ve told and
finally, they' re not going to

683
00:52:09.840 --> 00:52:14.840
close telegram. Just add that it
is true that there is a lot of

684
00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:15.639
piracy in telegram. It' s
very easy, that' s you in

685
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:22.480
the telegram search engine itself, you
can look for a movie and you put

686
00:52:22.519 --> 00:52:25.800
torren and you appear in the pirated
movie or I appear to you that I

687
00:52:27.199 --> 00:52:32.679
know, because football broadcasts from other
countries that I think are legal, not

688
00:52:32.719 --> 00:52:35.320
broadcast or capture the broadcast of another
country that is in another language. I

689
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:37.719
don' t know, I don' t know, but it' s

690
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:44.760
easy to find this kind of content
that is considered pirate on telegram, just

691
00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:49.880
looking for it you say shit,
man It' s just that it'

692
00:52:49.880 --> 00:52:50.079
s hard not to get out,
virgin islands where you are. Yes,

693
00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:54.000
the telegram is lodged in you is
worth nothing, for that is a pity.

694
00:52:54.079 --> 00:52:59.280
Telegram is a great app. I
think it would have been an attack

695
00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:04.199
on freedom of expression to block a
messaging app like telegram, which is huge,

696
00:53:04.280 --> 00:53:07.679
which has nine million users. But
it is true that telegram somehow has

697
00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:14.320
to be regulated or something have to
be done, because it is insultingly easy

698
00:53:14.440 --> 00:53:22.719
for creators like those who have football
rights, like moystar movies, has and

699
00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:25.960
series and so that they are hacking
their content so easily on telegram It is

700
00:53:27.119 --> 00:53:31.079
easy, it is true. He' s there. Having said this gives

701
00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:37.119
me a lot of nostralgera because we' ve been so happy on intelegram that

702
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:38.039
we' re here we' ve
been so happy. Yeah, yeah.

703
00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:43.719
We' ve done so many things
on TV, we' ve said so

704
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:45.039
much nonsense, we' ve taken
so many photos on TV. It'

705
00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:46.599
s true. Well, let'
s send her now for a record.

706
00:53:46.639 --> 00:53:51.800
That' s it. It doesn' t have much more, either,

707
00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:55.679
but the truth we telegram is a
wonderful platform, totally as a platform.

708
00:53:57.320 --> 00:54:00.760
Then, the issue of the channels, because Hostia is that there is a

709
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:07.320
lot of impunity with piracy and something
they have to do, yes it says

710
00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:10.360
they go already. But if we
want full encryption, if we want freedom,

711
00:54:12.760 --> 00:54:15.159
freedom of expression and that the others
are encrypted and as they say Hostia,

712
00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:19.880
because they can not block the platform
already, but maybe they will pursue

713
00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:25.119
the channels of piracy. And I
don' t know, or the rules

714
00:54:25.199 --> 00:54:29.280
of the telegram community themselves will have
to be clearer about it. Not because

715
00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:36.840
they leave impunity to anyone who wants
to hack and share that pirate content in

716
00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:40.480
telegram and I don' t think
it has its headquarters in a place where

717
00:54:40.679 --> 00:54:45.639
it is allowed, it doesn'
t have to put anti- piracy rules.

718
00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:47.719
I have no idea what laws are
worth, but one thing is where

719
00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:52.679
the seat is and another thing is
where the country where it is consumed is

720
00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:55.119
clear, the crime is committed here, regardless of where it is domiciled.

721
00:54:55.480 --> 00:55:00.679
Tellan is, in other words,
the place where the crime occurs and,

722
00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:07.039
in addition, the rights are Spanish, in this case the plaintiffs to that.

723
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:07.719
That' s why it' s
no problem. To me, what

724
00:55:07.719 --> 00:55:20.880
it seems to me is that it
shoots yes yes yes it was not going

725
00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:23.760
to make a reflection on the,
that is, in the future, the

726
00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:30.000
line of the border between protection,
the privacy of the intimacy, because there

727
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:37.880
was a comment about the encryption and
so you know what Apple is the flag

728
00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:45.280
of the privacy of the encrypted messages, of not giving even data or of

729
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:51.280
having to fight the FBI and the
police with alpe Apple to open an iPhone.

730
00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:58.079
I mean, you don' t
think that fight, that conflict between

731
00:55:58.079 --> 00:56:00.039
deprivation. I' m not talking
about piracy, it' s something else.

732
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:04.039
I speak of privacy, of the
data protection of the person and,

733
00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:10.079
on the other hand, privacy,
when it is crissted, because you feel

734
00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:15.079
more. Secondly, there is protection
of privacy. That' s that friction.

735
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:20.199
I think we' re gonna find
her a lot tomorrow. And I

736
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:22.800
don' t think it' s
settled yet. Each floor solves it in

737
00:56:22.880 --> 00:56:25.559
a way, for example, in
Spain, so that you can have an

738
00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:32.679
iPhone legally opened, so that a
judge can access an iPhone, it has

739
00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:37.719
to be because it is a crime
of terrorism, a crime that is punished

740
00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:38.440
for more than five years, that
is, it is super restrictive. That

741
00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:44.119
' s not right or wrong.
In any theft, in any crime you

742
00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:46.199
can make an iPhone. It'
s that debate. I don' t

743
00:56:46.280 --> 00:56:50.480
think he' s here yet.
He doesn' t agree with everyone on

744
00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:55.480
how it' s resolved. Now, yes, it' s complicated.

745
00:56:57.039 --> 00:57:02.400
I would see well that communications could
somehow be spyed on at the operator level,

746
00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:08.559
at the level of Internet traffic,
but that they will have on the

747
00:57:08.639 --> 00:57:13.639
device seems to me an abuse of
privacy, because there will be everything there.

748
00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:19.360
There will certainly be this criminal information, but there will also be private

749
00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:23.079
information that may affect third parties.
And so, I don' t think

750
00:57:23.119 --> 00:57:27.760
it' s right that there'
s information coming in from a personal motive.

751
00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:31.239
And then something else that I don' t happen to say telegram.

752
00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:37.760
Being so permissive to peratery, that
creates a benefit for you. That means

753
00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:42.559
telegran, be a resource for pirates
and attract audience. And such at the

754
00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:51.159
cost of being say lax using a
euphemism with intellectual property infringements. Fuck.

755
00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:58.079
It is also a competition of the
loyal with regard to other platforms, for

756
00:57:58.159 --> 00:58:01.199
example, like YouTube, if they
take care of the penitentiary, that is

757
00:58:01.440 --> 00:58:05.400
a loyal competition that is clearly true. It' s true because you say

758
00:58:05.400 --> 00:58:07.639
Hostia, because I' m going
to telegram because on top of it I

759
00:58:07.719 --> 00:58:09.920
don' t have easy to see
free stuff, pirate stuff, for free

760
00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:14.880
no, and on top of that, it' s not my fault,

761
00:58:14.880 --> 00:58:15.360
not the others, because it'
s unfair competition, because Whatsapp, for

762
00:58:15.360 --> 00:58:16.679
example, doesn' t have this
kind of pirate content. Other platforms,

763
00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:20.320
other social networks don' t have
it either. And Hostia, then,

764
00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:24.519
are at a disadvantage in this regard
totally. And the invitations of dubious identities,

765
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:30.079
certain people I don' t know, even girls have arrived. Yeah.

766
00:58:30.159 --> 00:58:31.000
Yeah. I think so? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah,

767
00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:37.480
all of a sudden he' s
got a nice girl writing with a slightly

768
00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:40.440
suggestive picture, yeah, but yeah, they actually write to me, really,

769
00:58:40.480 --> 00:58:42.920
well, I don' t think
they write to me lying. What

770
00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:45.000
happens is that I don' t
answer, I don' t pass wins

771
00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:49.119
answer, but, well, I
imagine clear, of course, I guess

772
00:58:49.159 --> 00:58:52.639
that' s what the battle is, a beautiful girl, it' s

773
00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:54.920
worth it to be half- witted
and she' s writing you the handsome

774
00:58:54.960 --> 00:59:00.800
one you do, but what'
s behind is a fat, ugly,

775
00:59:00.880 --> 00:59:01.440
hairy guy you know isn' t
even a bot that' s clear to

776
00:59:01.440 --> 00:59:02.239
you, of course, that'
s what I mean. Yes, yes,

777
00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:07.039
if they are not delicate subjects that, of course, there will be

778
00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:08.440
opinions for all tastes and all are
very, very, very respectable. Of

779
00:59:08.519 --> 00:59:13.199
course, they didn' t go
on the chat and they were going to

780
00:59:13.239 --> 00:59:16.440
Lzamena tells us the Apple Appele theme
didn' t open the iPhone content of

781
00:59:16.440 --> 00:59:19.559
some terrorists. You' ve totally
complicated the debate. I agree with Apple,

782
00:59:19.960 --> 00:59:24.639
i e I think I open and
get all the information from a smartphond

783
00:59:24.800 --> 00:59:29.400
named iPhone or another brand, because
it doesn' t seem right to me.

784
00:59:29.599 --> 00:59:32.199
I don' t think it'
s okay that if I look at

785
00:59:32.199 --> 00:59:36.360
communications via the operators, that'
s for sure, because it' s

786
00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:36.360
for sure that you' re saying
what you' re saying with other people.

787
00:59:36.800 --> 00:59:39.119
Okay, maybe these criminal conversations.
Well, we' re gonna blow

788
00:59:39.119 --> 00:59:44.559
it. But until they get you
in, they' ll see all the

789
00:59:44.559 --> 00:59:45.679
information on your device. What I
was saying is that the conflict with which

790
00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:50.159
you have information about third parties also
enters them. But there also comes a

791
00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:58.800
conflict of context. I don'
t know if I explain to you,

792
00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:06.039
for example, whatsapp let' s
say a person spies on you, there

793
01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:14.280
' s a moderator, so to
speak, going through conversations in groups in

794
01:00:14.840 --> 01:00:15.119
such a way I don' t
know what we all say in groups.

795
01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:16.639
Yeah, well, it' s
like in a bar, it' s

796
01:00:17.119 --> 01:00:21.039
like in a committee bar and we
say stupid things that the next day we

797
01:00:21.119 --> 01:00:22.880
say don' t believe me and
I, but look out for that nonsense.

798
01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:25.960
There is already what has to be
regulated in cases, that is,

799
01:00:27.039 --> 01:00:30.320
there has to be legal certainty,
that is, that cases in which a

800
01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:42.039
judge can access computer information are regulated. It' s worth the echo that

801
01:00:42.079 --> 01:00:45.559
anyone has, but we' re
going to see Spain, the United States,

802
01:00:46.480 --> 01:00:50.880
France, Germany and Italy, if
they' re Pegasus' clients,

803
01:00:51.079 --> 01:00:53.239
that is, what judges use,
what the Ministry of the Interior uses.

804
01:00:53.679 --> 01:00:59.320
When the cases occur legally, I
do not say that they are not,

805
01:00:59.559 --> 01:01:04.360
or are programs like pegasus with all
this controversy that took place with Israel.

806
01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:07.360
And such then good is that that
debate is complicated, that of course,

807
01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:12.559
if you carry that debate the end, hear you need to do an iPhone

808
01:01:12.639 --> 01:01:15.320
because if an attack is not going
to happen I don' t know what,

809
01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:15.559
I don' t know when you
hear, because it is regulated.

810
01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:19.440
In other words, I do not
know in what cases it may be,

811
01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:22.519
in which cases it is not,
but at least that there is legal certainty

812
01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:25.320
and that it is subscribed to.
I think so. Thank you very much,

813
01:01:25.320 --> 01:01:30.079
Pedro. It is an honor to
have you in Isen Acode so that

814
01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:32.400
you can enlighten all the listeners,
ourselves, with all this information, which

815
01:01:32.440 --> 01:01:36.639
is of great, great value and
more of someone and more of someone like

816
01:01:36.639 --> 01:01:39.800
you, who is inside the core, who is a lawyer and you know

817
01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:45.280
many people involved in all these issues, as Andy reminds us that we have

818
01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:49.280
been an hour away. I know
I don' t know if you think

819
01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:52.199
we' re going to gambo pimpo
and pay him a little tribute and we

820
01:01:52.199 --> 01:02:22.280
' re going to time. We
got to gambo or pimp. You know

821
01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:24.760
how this works. You can participate
from the chat we are reading you guys

822
01:02:24.960 --> 01:02:30.239
open bat. I want those gambones, those pimps. I think Antonio will

823
01:02:30.280 --> 01:02:36.519
agree with me. My pimp this
week is a series of Netflix that is

824
01:02:36.599 --> 01:02:39.679
called The Problem of the Three Bodies
Antonio, which we have been talking about

825
01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:46.039
in the bet group of spoilers and
we agree that it is a head blast.

826
01:02:46.079 --> 01:02:49.920
I really liked the show. The
truth seems highly recommended to me.

827
01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:52.199
I' ve read out there that
it' s the new lot I think

828
01:02:52.320 --> 01:02:55.519
nothing further from reality. But to
me, then, I' m liking

829
01:02:55.599 --> 01:02:59.440
the show I think it' s
a pimp. I think it' s

830
01:02:59.519 --> 01:03:01.320
highly recommended to see her. It
has nothing to do with it. No,

831
01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:06.760
but they say it' s the
grape because of the mystery, because

832
01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:07.639
there are many fundamental questions. Not
why this happens, how this happens.

833
01:03:08.039 --> 01:03:13.159
No, but he' s a
thriller. Which is series boys. It

834
01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:20.320
' s a science, fiction series
where there' s a lot of technology,

835
01:03:21.320 --> 01:03:23.599
a lot of VR, a lot
of quantum computers and a lot of

836
01:03:23.599 --> 01:03:28.960
physics. You don' t need
to be an expert, much less.

837
01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:31.679
It' s all conceptual, but, well, in the end, it

838
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:35.679
' s just that there are some
beings who want to invade the earth and

839
01:03:35.679 --> 01:03:38.280
very rare things happen. I don' t say any more until I can

840
01:03:38.280 --> 01:03:42.320
read pimp. Say no more.
Say no more. I agree with Frank

841
01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:49.119
and I was going to be first
in line with you in the body series.

842
01:03:50.039 --> 01:03:53.239
But if I agree with Frank Son
Frankill in Gentleman and Entleman, I

843
01:03:53.880 --> 01:03:58.239
think I' m writing them.
Yes, I' m wearing a chapter

844
01:03:58.280 --> 01:04:01.880
and I' m very low now, Antonio, and I think that'

845
01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:05.440
s very low now. Yeah,
pull over the mic and pull the mic

846
01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:11.039
out and talk. So that Gentleman, Gentleman, I agree with Frank Hiljan.

847
01:04:11.559 --> 01:04:16.920
Sounds like a brutal series to me. But where this is and what

848
01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:20.960
it' s about is Netflix is
also not also yes, yes, yes,

849
01:04:21.559 --> 01:04:26.079
yes, yes. You' d
like this because this is about a

850
01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:30.760
little lord who also looks like you
physically who make him duke go and so

851
01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:38.519
bounce and he' s very interesting
and is Madrina a series that name is

852
01:04:38.519 --> 01:04:47.840
the man, yours is from the
bar. Not now it' s located

853
01:04:47.840 --> 01:04:57.239
in England. Well, we'
ll have to give him a subject there,

854
01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:00.519
too, because I' m a
piece of crap about a pimp.

855
01:05:01.320 --> 01:05:04.760
But this nonsense I hadn' t
noticed because I hadn' t tried it

856
01:05:04.760 --> 01:05:10.320
yet. And it' s balloon, balloon, it hits me. I

857
01:05:10.400 --> 01:05:15.159
asked for dinner tonight. I have
asked for a Chinese and hears that he

858
01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:18.679
takes advantage of the Life activities and
that it is quite accurate and that when

859
01:05:19.320 --> 01:05:27.519
you have locked on the screen of
an iPhone, fourteen pro or fifteen pro

860
01:05:27.679 --> 01:05:30.559
and you can see in real time
the status of your order. I find

861
01:05:30.719 --> 01:05:35.320
it cool are the typical things that
I wanted Lift Activities to still develop more,

862
01:05:35.960 --> 01:05:40.800
that I was going to see more
developers bet on it. Apart from

863
01:05:40.840 --> 01:05:44.840
the typical ones that I use a
lot of phot mop and such, but

864
01:05:44.880 --> 01:05:47.440
there hasn' t been an explosion
either. There, you just have to

865
01:05:47.440 --> 01:05:53.280
take it out of the hole because
it' s clear, you can'

866
01:05:53.360 --> 01:05:57.960
t get stuff into the dynamic island
or live activities. It has to be

867
01:05:58.039 --> 01:06:00.519
meaningless things for free. Then it
has to be things. You get temporary

868
01:06:00.599 --> 01:06:03.079
like, you place an order,
how long does it take to get that

869
01:06:03.079 --> 01:06:08.159
order? You ask for a cabify, how long it will take to get

870
01:06:08.199 --> 01:06:11.599
that Cavifa and your destination or where
you are to pick up. Not those

871
01:06:11.679 --> 01:06:14.800
things or football, for example.
It' s cool things that are temporary,

872
01:06:15.079 --> 01:06:16.639
that have a beginning and an end. No, but clear for anything.

873
01:06:16.800 --> 01:06:20.679
Obviously, it won' t do
you any good. But eye is

874
01:06:20.719 --> 01:06:26.440
totally one is a good ass.
But if you can use almost better than

875
01:06:26.440 --> 01:06:29.880
Cabifi, I' ll leave that
too. Okay. Yeah, well,

876
01:06:30.079 --> 01:06:33.280
we totally love taxis. We'
re also going to the chava to see

877
01:06:33.280 --> 01:06:35.440
what people say. Let' s
say pimp and while you guys are thinking

878
01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:42.440
about it. Andy Marquet says pimp, gonzilla versus backpack and with Frank Hill

879
01:06:42.760 --> 01:06:46.360
pimped gentleman series. So far I' ve seen only one chapter. He

880
01:06:46.480 --> 01:06:50.760
paints well the one Antonio told us
before again, says Gamba the accident of

881
01:06:51.719 --> 01:06:59.480
the Baltimore Crane. Well, the
boat' s from Baltimore that dropped the

882
01:06:59.559 --> 01:07:02.159
bridge. The truth is it'
s a freighter worth it. Yeah,

883
01:07:03.159 --> 01:07:09.079
yeah, yeah. It is a
catastrophe, a catastrophe and we send our

884
01:07:09.199 --> 01:07:14.880
whole, our support to the whole
community. Frangil says Gamba, Pedro for

885
01:07:15.079 --> 01:07:19.320
his hermetism in the demand for Apple
and Telegram. We' re unhappy.

886
01:07:20.599 --> 01:07:24.679
I really do. He doesn'
t explain you well, Uncle, he

887
01:07:24.679 --> 01:07:27.239
explained himself wonderfully. Well, Pedro
the corner of José te Podcast you say

888
01:07:27.280 --> 01:07:30.559
pimp, the one I had with
the lords Sergio Nabas three and twenty-

889
01:07:30.679 --> 01:07:34.280
three, Mac Trompa, Paco el
otero, gig and Guaica. I'

890
01:07:34.320 --> 01:07:36.280
m having a great time. The
truth is, what we' ve already

891
01:07:36.280 --> 01:07:41.559
had for dinner, Uncle, in
the driver' s enjoit, well,

892
01:07:41.559 --> 01:07:43.800
we' ve had it. Super, super, super, okay, yeah,

893
01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:48.840
but there were two important people missing, Mr Recio and me. That

894
01:07:48.960 --> 01:07:53.920
' s right. But if the
challenge was invited and that I couldn'

895
01:07:53.960 --> 01:07:57.760
t come because far not and you
weren' t in Barcelona, of course

896
01:07:57.880 --> 01:08:00.559
those who were there far away,
but those who are coming you know all

897
01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:03.119
invited, uh, but it wasn' t very far Antonio, who was

898
01:08:03.119 --> 01:08:04.960
on vacation. I don' t
think I can come. Don' t

899
01:08:04.960 --> 01:08:08.800
come. We' re done with
the range of matic fever that they say

900
01:08:09.159 --> 01:08:12.880
is that Apple doesn' t arrive
in time and to them eighteen won'

901
01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:15.680
t have a chatbot of life-
interegent in its own generation, if perhaps

902
01:08:15.720 --> 01:08:16.239
chat GPT or Jamie Niis, if
we' ve already commented on it.

903
01:08:17.239 --> 01:08:21.479
I think it' s a good
idea, because before Apple gets something that

904
01:08:21.520 --> 01:08:26.640
isn' t up to it,
it takes out extensions and in Spotify,

905
01:08:26.760 --> 01:08:30.560
in Spotify and Spotlight or in a
similar space, because let us have in

906
01:08:30.640 --> 01:08:34.159
the system itself and third- party
chatbots. Most of all, because Apple

907
01:08:34.239 --> 01:08:38.920
could implement a very concrete chatbot,
but it is that they will arrive at

908
01:08:38.960 --> 01:08:45.479
artificial intelligences, themed in plan,
for medicine, because for engineering, for

909
01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:48.319
programming, for developers and such clear
tones host, because in the end we

910
01:08:48.399 --> 01:08:53.840
have access to all and that with
a kind of extensions we can integrate them

911
01:08:54.199 --> 01:08:58.359
into the iPhone system via the Spotlight. I can think of it via extensions,

912
01:08:58.479 --> 01:09:00.039
because I would think it better than
Apple to pull out its own chat

913
01:09:00.039 --> 01:09:04.279
bot. It seems to me a
good strategy that you have thought of for

914
01:09:04.359 --> 01:09:09.279
your native applications and that opens the
door for us to integrate any third-

915
01:09:10.039 --> 01:09:12.079
party chat bot into your iPhone itself. I think it' s the best

916
01:09:12.079 --> 01:09:15.640
option. I don' t think
it' s a prawn forgiving pimp look,

917
01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:20.600
but Javier Delgado comments on the chat
that I don' t know if

918
01:09:20.680 --> 01:09:25.159
all these recent failures series his way
of protesting, because they' re preparing

919
01:09:25.159 --> 01:09:30.800
the Mira relay. I' ve
been remembering all the programmers and their families

920
01:09:30.840 --> 01:09:35.439
for a week, the catore kine
tree tower. Yeah, yeah. The

921
01:09:35.479 --> 01:09:42.439
truth is it' s a joke? Is that a joke? Well July

922
01:09:42.760 --> 01:09:47.960
at home, the house jomps can
play me such music, give me such

923
01:09:47.960 --> 01:09:50.520
podcast. I don' t know
who you are, who I' m

924
01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:57.119
gonna be. I own you,
I' m not the only one in

925
01:09:57.279 --> 01:10:00.199
this house who runs you in this
house. Yeah, but curious because he

926
01:10:00.239 --> 01:10:04.199
stopped pronouncing. I think he stopped
pronouncing the ces because if he said catore

927
01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:14.000
Kine three, three, three points, certain letters a week I stop pronouncing

928
01:10:14.079 --> 01:10:17.439
them. Curious in I' ve
seen a resceto something, no, no,

929
01:10:17.640 --> 01:10:20.840
no, but this has been passed
by everyone, still doing it on

930
01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:25.000
Apple websites would be doing it.
This has happened to everyone, the whole

931
01:10:25.000 --> 01:10:28.600
number that I was saying when you, that is, whatever phrase I had

932
01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:31.840
to say with numbers, the EC
was not able to pronounce it in such

933
01:10:31.960 --> 01:10:39.920
a way as Kine said. Well, any number wasn' t able to

934
01:10:39.920 --> 01:10:45.760
pronounce them. That 17th. I
also said seventeen, seventeen Holy shit,

935
01:10:45.399 --> 01:10:50.439
man, I' m already failing. Yeah, yeah, it was a

936
01:10:50.800 --> 01:10:55.680
catastrophic, I mean, putting on
a timer. You' re making the

937
01:10:55.800 --> 01:11:02.920
food and you tell him to give
me a fifteen- zero- minute timer

938
01:11:02.920 --> 01:11:05.399
to come back and remove. This. Yes and, for example, of

939
01:11:05.399 --> 01:11:12.720
course, counting. Of course the
thirteen was three. Of course I was

940
01:11:14.920 --> 01:11:15.840
saying three in I don' t
know. It was ridiculous, man,

941
01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:18.760
you gotta believe it, man,
it' s almost like there' s

942
01:11:19.119 --> 01:11:23.199
a point that making it has to
get a lot better in the 18s.

943
01:11:23.439 --> 01:11:26.359
I hope you take a step forward
and these things don' t happen anymore.

944
01:11:27.439 --> 01:11:31.600
Let' s have a series in
condition is that' s what the

945
01:11:31.600 --> 01:11:34.640
chat bot is. Dude, we
can have a conversation with anyone with a

946
01:11:34.720 --> 01:11:41.039
natural language and give you coherent answers. And I turn off with Siri talking

947
01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:44.119
is that it' s that you
can' t, it' s that

948
01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:45.439
it doesn' t give you coherent
answers. For example, Alexa the fence

949
01:11:46.359 --> 01:11:49.920
and it' s not very final
either, but it' s going a

950
01:11:49.920 --> 01:11:53.439
lot. Compared to a chatbot,
it doesn' t go at the end

951
01:11:53.479 --> 01:11:56.039
either, but it goes much better
than it does and I don' t

952
01:11:56.039 --> 01:11:58.319
know what you' re telling them
depends. I do a lot. I

953
01:11:58.399 --> 01:12:00.039
think much better is not the word. I think it goes better at some

954
01:12:00.119 --> 01:12:03.800
things and worse at others, because
it asks some questions if it does it

955
01:12:03.840 --> 01:12:08.319
right and Alexa doesn' t,
and you ask other questions and the other

956
01:12:08.399 --> 01:12:10.039
way around, Alexa does it well
and sir and no. But they didn

957
01:12:10.039 --> 01:12:12.319
' t just go well. None
of the things aside, it' s

958
01:12:12.479 --> 01:12:14.199
got dots, so I' m
telling you, I' m not here.

959
01:12:15.720 --> 01:12:18.960
I' m not very in favor
of Alexa, because we already know

960
01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:25.399
everything about Amazon' s privacy and
such. I prefer Siri for privacy,

961
01:12:25.880 --> 01:12:31.920
but well, Alexa has four jokes, four curiosities that thank you very much,

962
01:12:33.399 --> 01:12:40.159
because, for example, you tell
Alexa, Alexa, thank you very

963
01:12:40.159 --> 01:12:45.359
much. Start saying or you'
re not like it was the other day,

964
01:12:45.159 --> 01:12:50.000
' cause I was this horny with
my girl here at home and I

965
01:12:50.279 --> 01:12:54.479
told Alexa, you' re so
nice and I' m starting to sing.

966
01:12:54.560 --> 01:13:00.239
Thank you, you know, but
that' s not helpful. That

967
01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:02.479
wouldn' t be you. But
how it makes a zeroing rhino. That

968
01:13:02.560 --> 01:13:05.960
makes you read so clearly. I
want things to do to me, useful

969
01:13:05.960 --> 01:13:14.800
things, totally, totally talk about
the Alexa whisper in the cane and have

970
01:13:14.840 --> 01:13:17.640
the whisper answer you. That'
s the one who whispers and tells you

971
01:13:17.800 --> 01:13:24.840
I' m talking short. Yeah, I have a question here to see

972
01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:29.279
if they can' t say it, on the next podcast or those of

973
01:13:29.319 --> 01:13:34.560
us who are more juicy an arcaded
band of discord. I' m thinking

974
01:13:34.840 --> 01:13:43.640
Sergio guys, yeah, catch the
God of Ward compare I' ve never

975
01:13:43.640 --> 01:13:47.439
played, but I need a game
that you have in clear history and that

976
01:13:47.520 --> 01:13:49.239
yes and that' s good.
I mean, I need a game that

977
01:13:49.359 --> 01:13:54.399
has history. You missed it,
too. I' ve never played hof

978
01:13:54.439 --> 01:13:57.560
War, so pass yourself the previous
Got or Ward, which is if you

979
01:13:57.640 --> 01:14:00.319
have the foot, this is a
plus. It' s included. Yes,

980
01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:03.199
it' s included. Pass the
first and when you pass the first

981
01:14:03.319 --> 01:14:05.479
is that it' s story roll, you know then it' s continuation.

982
01:14:05.800 --> 01:14:10.920
But if you haven' t played
the original God of War first,

983
01:14:11.039 --> 01:14:13.600
the previous not the original, because
there are a lot of versions. But

984
01:14:13.680 --> 01:14:16.920
if the previous one and then if
you like it, then you play Ragnarok,

985
01:14:17.000 --> 01:14:21.279
which is continuation of this, But
Peter, I mean I' ll

986
01:14:21.319 --> 01:14:28.039
remind you that we have been waiting
for two years the fork cray and the

987
01:14:28.159 --> 01:14:30.840
day yes, but when we don' t agree, it' s that,

988
01:14:30.359 --> 01:14:33.279
man, when we' re not
going to spend the Devil together,

989
01:14:33.680 --> 01:14:39.479
man, I, it' s
that I' m level five, it

990
01:14:39.640 --> 01:14:45.640
' s or life dogs, but
I' m still level pisco, man,

991
01:14:45.039 --> 01:14:46.880
Oko, look tomorrow night left to
kill Devil. Come on Yeah,

992
01:14:47.279 --> 01:14:51.119
David, what' s Peter,
Santa Chico week or c for that first

993
01:14:51.159 --> 01:14:57.560
holiday. Ah well. Of course, because, well, ah well,

994
01:14:57.800 --> 01:15:00.920
you can' t work, I
don' t know we have to play.

995
01:15:00.960 --> 01:15:05.520
This weekend. Take the iPad and
the PS Plus. Peter, also

996
01:15:06.640 --> 01:15:14.800
the remote goes to the first says
pure final pimp Fantasy VII, the remake

997
01:15:14.840 --> 01:15:20.439
I don' t understand, yes, but there' s an end Fantasy

998
01:15:20.439 --> 01:15:21.319
that people are freaked out. Hey, I don' t know. I

999
01:15:21.399 --> 01:15:24.680
' ve never played a fine fantasy, but I don' t know.

1000
01:15:24.840 --> 01:15:28.079
There' s a new one that
at least seven are doing the remake and

1001
01:15:28.119 --> 01:15:29.920
reviving the one hundred. I don' t know what. Yeah, yeah,

1002
01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:33.680
Frankill says by the way, chubby
torrijas and if I' m on

1003
01:15:33.680 --> 01:15:38.640
torrijas, well. I put on
torrijas with my daughter yesterday, and I

1004
01:15:38.720 --> 01:15:41.439
' m so full of torrijas.
Buenaísiber I should make you see that that

1005
01:15:41.520 --> 01:15:45.880
' s Sergio, because I write
to Sergio for the Gen group Truth,

1006
01:15:46.439 --> 01:15:48.159
such for the podcast group. I
don' t know. I don'

1007
01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:51.039
t know how much you catch me
making torrija the other one. You catch

1008
01:15:51.079 --> 01:15:55.720
me making torrija to everyone. You
ask me to make torrite and turning potatoes.

1009
01:15:55.960 --> 01:16:01.720
I mean, you' re late
or hell. Uncle, yesterday came

1010
01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:06.039
out the announcement of the wor Wit
Developer conferences and Peter was sharing it and

1011
01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:09.720
I didn' t find out.
I was making torrijas and then I was

1012
01:16:09.720 --> 01:16:13.159
going to make a potato omelette.
He was in full swing in the kitchen,

1013
01:16:13.479 --> 01:16:15.159
man, and he wasn' t
on his cell phone. It'

1014
01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:19.039
s a good thing Pedro tipped off
because I managed it a little bit,

1015
01:16:19.039 --> 01:16:20.520
and we gave him cover. Hey, thanks, Pedro, for keeping an

1016
01:16:20.520 --> 01:16:27.640
eye on it. Now, Chico, that' s when Sergio says the

1017
01:16:27.720 --> 01:16:30.279
famous phrase of and up here we
can read. Friends, friends, I

1018
01:16:30.359 --> 01:16:35.880
' ll see you next week with
more kisses in the Pyrenees, see you

1019
01:16:35.960 --> 01:16:43.279
in the bars guys, Chao you, you didn' t say, this

1020
01:16:43.039 --> 01:16:43.279
is the way