April 9, 2024
Una reforma a la salud a punto de decretos me suena a extorsión

No es uno, ni dos, ni tres: son ocho los decretos que tiene le ministerio de Salud para poner en marcha la reforma a la salud que fracasó en el Senado.
No es uno, ni dos, ni tres: son ocho los decretos que tiene le ministerio de Salud para poner en marcha la reforma a la salud que fracasó en el Senado.
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I am bombarded with this whole issue
of health decrees and the interventions have sounded
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to me since the first day to
blackmail the Congress of the Republic. But
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I think we' re witnessing the
third funeral to the Colombian health system.
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This inept government was unable to pay
a payroll and paid it three times.
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You will be able to pay for
all services provided at all clinics and hospitals
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in the country. This is where
the Philip sublet begins. It' s
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not one, it' s not
two, it' s not three.
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Finally, there are eight decrees issued
by the Ministry of Health, that of
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Guillermo Alfonso Jaramillo to implement the reform
that the Government collapsed just a week ago
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in the Seventh Senate Commission. The
government, as the Minister of the Interior,
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Luis Fernando Velasco, confessed here in
blue mornings, playing three bands to
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put the reform by administrative decree,
to present a new project to Congress.
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So be the other legislature and one
more, as the President says, in
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the hope that the option put forward
by the senators of the historic pact will
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prosper, who put an appeal against
the collapse of the reform looking for what
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will be saved. As Felipe says, despite the political message, the government
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insists on getting the reform out.
To me, this whole issue of health
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decrees and interventions has sounded to me
since the first day to blackmail the Congress
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of the Republic with a message that
seems clear to me is to say if
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you do not test me, because
I begin to take everything out by decree.
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Now let' s see what happens
to these health decrees, because they
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are going to be sued in three
two one before the administrative containment before the
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Council of State, of the first
section of the Council of State, and
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surely they will be overthrown because some
of these decrees, say the lawyers who
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have already studied, let' s
say the draft decrees that would go against
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some articles of the law, of
the government' s development plan, of
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President Petro, because it is that
they do everything chambonaly now, that is,
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the stateization of health through the back
door Although more than seventy percent of
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Colombians say they do not want to
change their health system, and Petro got
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into this obstinately and they will surely
overthrow these decrees in four or five six
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weeks. Then we' ll see
you say soft blow. They won'
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t let me rule these oligarchs.
The corrupt judges are not good. We
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know where this story is going now. This decree, which is perhaps more
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important, establishes that from the decree, adrez pays directly to the IPS,
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i e clinics and hospitals. If
the government has measured itself, then the
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capacity to do so is that I
see it as very difficult. That is,
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this inept government was unable to pay
a payroll and paid it three times.
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You will be able to pay for
all services provided at all clinics and
39
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hospitals in the country. You know
I have a very complicated log. I
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have an additional question to ask you, Philip. If the government gets in
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the way and the government is going
to solve the crisis that is financial in
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the health system with the fact that
it is the one who pays the hospital
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clinic knowing that the money is the
same, that is, if there are
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no modifications of the UPC, because
no decree touches the UPC, the government
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will have to pay and turn with
the same thing that already have the PSC
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that they say they do not reach
it. What makes the government think that
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silver, which does not reach the
PS, will reach Adres No. I
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do not know that I believe that
all this is the result of the blundering
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of senior government officials. So I
don' t know what studies they have,
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what previous studies were. This is
all more like coming back to me.
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I' ll tell you what.
There' s like a message there,
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like a dictatorial half. I don' t approve of the reforms.
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I' ll take it out by
decree. Remember that the President said on
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two occasions, one that if he
didn' t do anything with the CPS
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they were going to fall like a
domino Chuchu Chuchu, the famous Chuchu.
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Yes, sir, the famous Chuchu
Chuchu Chuchu. Well, that' s
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already started with the interventions of the
new PS and Sanitas and now they'
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re going to issue a decree that
I don' t think they have calculated
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and I don' t want to
be so pessimistic, but I think we
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' re witnessing the third burial to
the Colombian health system, which is not
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optimal, but it' s good. Let' s say it. Isn
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' t it optimal, but was
it good? And that petro- statizing
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drive, that is, he did
not want to reconcile the law with the
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congressmen, which is what he would
have been entitled to. No, and
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he gave out money. Well there' s this and sinister that the territorial
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ocentes to make hospitals and health centers. And another day they talk about what
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they' re gonna send out some
medical teams. But where the doctors are,
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where the nurses are, where the
psychologists are. It is that this
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is all a disorganization and chaos that
one no longer knows what to think Maria
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Camila and Felipe knows that as if
ingredients were missing in this cocktail of a
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sunken reform, but the government saving
her, but the government ordering her by
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decree adds. I want to know
your opinion to close this case today because
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it publishes or better filters a report
on eighteen PSS saying that they wasted or
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diverted nine billion pesos between two thousand
twenty and two thousand twenty- one,
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so much that they socialized it with
the prosecution and that' s why the
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prosecution started an investigation. However,
the same argument today is being disproved that
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no, that that is a preliminary
report and that there is no listening to
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the PSC why the counterloia gets involved
in this. Not me. The truth
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isn' t that I don'
t have any logical explanation. I would
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think that the sensible thing is to
wait for the final report, because so
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this went wrong with the contraloria,
that they had to ask last night late
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for a statement not clarifying, do
not look at this, it is not
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proven. This, this all unresponsibly. It' s not that I think
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it was let' s say.
I think it was an unnecessary leak.
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No, but happy for leaking.
When it was at a meeting where the
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Comptroller himself was with the prosecutor,
it seems that they drew the figures.
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Where did they get the numbers?
That' s the question to ask,
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but I' d advise caution there. Let' s wait for the results
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now. If nine billion pesos were
stolen, then they rot in jail that
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they aim, you already have to
open investigations. The one who steals the
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money from the PAE, from the
school feeding plan or from health deserves nothing
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other than almost life, because pity
there is no death penalty. But we
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do have to wait until we see
what the PSS explains, because it gives
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me the impression that within those nine
million billions they put in payment for enemies
95
00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:18.800
of doctors, of services, of
medicines, etcetera. Let' s hope,
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let' s wait calmly to look
at the study carefully so we know
97
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where this health system is going.
This is the slip.
1
00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:06.879
I am bombarded with this whole issue
of health decrees and the interventions have sounded
2
00:00:07.040 --> 00:00:12.839
to me since the first day to
blackmail the Congress of the Republic. But
3
00:00:12.880 --> 00:00:19.239
I think we' re witnessing the
third funeral to the Colombian health system.
4
00:00:20.160 --> 00:00:23.160
This inept government was unable to pay
a payroll and paid it three times.
5
00:00:23.960 --> 00:00:29.079
You will be able to pay for
all services provided at all clinics and hospitals
6
00:00:29.160 --> 00:00:37.799
in the country. This is where
the Philip sublet begins. It' s
7
00:00:37.799 --> 00:00:39.439
not one, it' s not
two, it' s not three.
8
00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:43.640
Finally, there are eight decrees issued
by the Ministry of Health, that of
9
00:00:43.719 --> 00:00:48.560
Guillermo Alfonso Jaramillo to implement the reform
that the Government collapsed just a week ago
10
00:00:48.799 --> 00:00:55.399
in the Seventh Senate Commission. The
government, as the Minister of the Interior,
11
00:00:55.759 --> 00:01:00.200
Luis Fernando Velasco, confessed here in
blue mornings, playing three bands to
12
00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:04.359
put the reform by administrative decree,
to present a new project to Congress.
13
00:01:06.040 --> 00:01:10.359
So be the other legislature and one
more, as the President says, in
14
00:01:10.480 --> 00:01:17.400
the hope that the option put forward
by the senators of the historic pact will
15
00:01:17.840 --> 00:01:23.040
prosper, who put an appeal against
the collapse of the reform looking for what
16
00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:26.519
will be saved. As Felipe says, despite the political message, the government
17
00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:30.760
insists on getting the reform out.
To me, this whole issue of health
18
00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:36.599
decrees and interventions has sounded to me
since the first day to blackmail the Congress
19
00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:41.959
of the Republic with a message that
seems clear to me is to say if
20
00:01:41.959 --> 00:01:44.599
you do not test me, because
I begin to take everything out by decree.
21
00:01:46.040 --> 00:01:49.239
Now let' s see what happens
to these health decrees, because they
22
00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:55.120
are going to be sued in three
two one before the administrative containment before the
23
00:01:55.120 --> 00:01:57.879
Council of State, of the first
section of the Council of State, and
24
00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:01.280
surely they will be overthrown because some
of these decrees, say the lawyers who
25
00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:07.159
have already studied, let' s
say the draft decrees that would go against
26
00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:10.639
some articles of the law, of
the government' s development plan, of
27
00:02:12.400 --> 00:02:16.599
President Petro, because it is that
they do everything chambonaly now, that is,
28
00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:21.599
the stateization of health through the back
door Although more than seventy percent of
29
00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:25.719
Colombians say they do not want to
change their health system, and Petro got
30
00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:30.719
into this obstinately and they will surely
overthrow these decrees in four or five six
31
00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:38.960
weeks. Then we' ll see
you say soft blow. They won'
32
00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:43.400
t let me rule these oligarchs.
The corrupt judges are not good. We
33
00:02:43.479 --> 00:02:47.199
know where this story is going now. This decree, which is perhaps more
34
00:02:47.240 --> 00:02:53.240
important, establishes that from the decree, adrez pays directly to the IPS,
35
00:02:53.680 --> 00:03:00.280
i e clinics and hospitals. If
the government has measured itself, then the
36
00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:06.599
capacity to do so is that I
see it as very difficult. That is,
37
00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:09.080
this inept government was unable to pay
a payroll and paid it three times.
38
00:03:10.159 --> 00:03:15.719
You will be able to pay for
all services provided at all clinics and
39
00:03:15.759 --> 00:03:20.400
hospitals in the country. You know
I have a very complicated log. I
40
00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:23.400
have an additional question to ask you, Philip. If the government gets in
41
00:03:23.439 --> 00:03:28.800
the way and the government is going
to solve the crisis that is financial in
42
00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:31.680
the health system with the fact that
it is the one who pays the hospital
43
00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:36.560
clinic knowing that the money is the
same, that is, if there are
44
00:03:36.560 --> 00:03:38.960
no modifications of the UPC, because
no decree touches the UPC, the government
45
00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:43.759
will have to pay and turn with
the same thing that already have the PSC
46
00:03:43.800 --> 00:03:47.039
that they say they do not reach
it. What makes the government think that
47
00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:52.680
silver, which does not reach the
PS, will reach Adres No. I
48
00:03:52.840 --> 00:03:57.199
do not know that I believe that
all this is the result of the blundering
49
00:03:57.280 --> 00:04:01.479
of senior government officials. So I
don' t know what studies they have,
50
00:04:01.680 --> 00:04:05.840
what previous studies were. This is
all more like coming back to me.
51
00:04:06.240 --> 00:04:09.479
I' ll tell you what.
There' s like a message there,
52
00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:12.919
like a dictatorial half. I don' t approve of the reforms.
53
00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:16.079
I' ll take it out by
decree. Remember that the President said on
54
00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:20.160
two occasions, one that if he
didn' t do anything with the CPS
55
00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:24.480
they were going to fall like a
domino Chuchu Chuchu, the famous Chuchu.
56
00:04:24.560 --> 00:04:27.519
Yes, sir, the famous Chuchu
Chuchu Chuchu. Well, that' s
57
00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:33.839
already started with the interventions of the
new PS and Sanitas and now they'
58
00:04:33.959 --> 00:04:39.839
re going to issue a decree that
I don' t think they have calculated
59
00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:46.519
and I don' t want to
be so pessimistic, but I think we
60
00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:51.279
' re witnessing the third burial to
the Colombian health system, which is not
61
00:04:51.279 --> 00:04:53.759
optimal, but it' s good. Let' s say it. Isn
62
00:04:53.759 --> 00:04:58.040
' t it optimal, but was
it good? And that petro- statizing
63
00:04:58.120 --> 00:05:02.959
drive, that is, he did
not want to reconcile the law with the
64
00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:06.240
congressmen, which is what he would
have been entitled to. No, and
65
00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:12.319
he gave out money. Well there' s this and sinister that the territorial
66
00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:15.920
ocentes to make hospitals and health centers. And another day they talk about what
67
00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:17.879
they' re gonna send out some
medical teams. But where the doctors are,
68
00:05:18.000 --> 00:05:21.879
where the nurses are, where the
psychologists are. It is that this
69
00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:26.680
is all a disorganization and chaos that
one no longer knows what to think Maria
70
00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:31.000
Camila and Felipe knows that as if
ingredients were missing in this cocktail of a
71
00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:35.079
sunken reform, but the government saving
her, but the government ordering her by
72
00:05:35.079 --> 00:05:40.120
decree adds. I want to know
your opinion to close this case today because
73
00:05:40.560 --> 00:05:46.959
it publishes or better filters a report
on eighteen PSS saying that they wasted or
74
00:05:47.279 --> 00:05:50.839
diverted nine billion pesos between two thousand
twenty and two thousand twenty- one,
75
00:05:51.000 --> 00:05:56.160
so much that they socialized it with
the prosecution and that' s why the
76
00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:59.279
prosecution started an investigation. However,
the same argument today is being disproved that
77
00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:01.639
no, that that is a preliminary
report and that there is no listening to
78
00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:05.920
the PSC why the counterloia gets involved
in this. Not me. The truth
79
00:06:05.920 --> 00:06:10.439
isn' t that I don'
t have any logical explanation. I would
80
00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:14.399
think that the sensible thing is to
wait for the final report, because so
81
00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:18.079
this went wrong with the contraloria,
that they had to ask last night late
82
00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:19.759
for a statement not clarifying, do
not look at this, it is not
83
00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:24.839
proven. This, this all unresponsibly. It' s not that I think
84
00:06:25.519 --> 00:06:28.399
it was let' s say.
I think it was an unnecessary leak.
85
00:06:28.560 --> 00:06:30.800
No, but happy for leaking.
When it was at a meeting where the
86
00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:35.600
Comptroller himself was with the prosecutor,
it seems that they drew the figures.
87
00:06:35.639 --> 00:06:39.319
Where did they get the numbers?
That' s the question to ask,
88
00:06:39.480 --> 00:06:43.720
but I' d advise caution there. Let' s wait for the results
89
00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:47.720
now. If nine billion pesos were
stolen, then they rot in jail that
90
00:06:47.720 --> 00:06:54.160
they aim, you already have to
open investigations. The one who steals the
91
00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:59.399
money from the PAE, from the
school feeding plan or from health deserves nothing
92
00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:03.759
other than almost life, because pity
there is no death penalty. But we
93
00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:09.399
do have to wait until we see
what the PSS explains, because it gives
94
00:07:09.480 --> 00:07:15.279
me the impression that within those nine
million billions they put in payment for enemies
95
00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:18.800
of doctors, of services, of
medicines, etcetera. Let' s hope,
96
00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:24.720
let' s wait calmly to look
at the study carefully so we know
97
00:07:24.759 --> 00:07:28.160
where this health system is going.
This is the slip.







