El Poder mental para BMX, trucos, tips. Invitada : Natalia Salamanca. (Psicóloga)

0:00 M s b S, Hello Well, Comery Boy, Thin Special Tracks and Walt to few t p s, das Go The State, The Tracks, Than n Ouren Fabulous Photographs. And now I do want to welcome you to this new episode of the first BMX podcast in Spanish, in an episode that is going to have a very special guest before. I also want to thank our sponsors, a ple Way Podcast Network, a lew Uno bm X Club in the two hundred thirty- five north of the city of Bogotá. There ' s a lot of anxiety these days. I' m telling you who

1:33 our guest is, because the World Championship is coming. He spent the Pan American Championship in Bogotá and the Latin American Championship at that stop, in that international race that took place on the Carlos Ramírez track, were about a thousand registered runners. Obviously, the volume of Colombia, quite strong and from many countries that accompanied us in a career, was very important. I think it can be a career for Latin America after the World Cup. I think it ' s the most important race. The organization was very good, what I saw could not be there, but I saw many happy faces, good organization, a good show. So congratulations to the entire Pan- American and Latin American organization that took place in Bogotá, Colombia and today a guest who will share very special things with us. She has been and will remain a bm X runner. That psychologist also has a master' s degree in all these topics that help us and that help the runners to have better presentations to strengthen.

2:46 We not only strengthen the physical part, but the mental part. It ' s fundamental. So Natalia Salamanca, who is also very young and is already quite intellectually prepared to help us, and I want to invite her and greet her. Hey, Natalia, how you doing. How are you doing? Hello, Alejandro, how are you? I am very well, very excited to be here, super super happy to be able to share, from my experience and also from the Academy, everything that I have been learning throughout these years and, above all, to be able to share with you that, in the end is what I seek not to give that knowledge that the mind of mental training ceases to be also something so far from reality. It is part of a training as well as the technical part, of the physical part. Super super important and so take advantage right now that is also very booming. Now many of the things that sound are trending. So everyone wants to go that way, you have to take advantage of it and definitely, the science- based, sport- based mental training is very booming and you have to definitely do it. Makes a difference what a thrill it is to be here. Thank you so much for the Natalia invitation. Tell us well some of your experience as a sportsman and now you are still a sportsman,

4:17 but as a professional in that training of mental preparation. Tell us a little bit about your profile and we come in with several questions that I have for you clearly yes, well as a sportsman, I started very small. I started when I was nine. I got to the Mario Soto track, with my mom, with my brother, we saw the bic Cross track. There were no girls and I want that super animated, I want that sport and there it started as my sports career. At first it was very, to go around on the track, to enjoy the weekends, but things went away and then I started to like with more discipline going more days during the week, competing nationally, competing I also started to compete outside. I did a lot of things while I was in the sport. I always needed, like that psychological component, that part where you start to regulate those emotions, because you definitely get to a competition outside and then you start. I don' t have too much expectation on me. I have to win, which in the end is the goal that most people have when they go out or when they compete in general, I have to win and it is to put too much pressure on them. Then I had the good opportion ready. I' m done with school. But during school I was very, very focused.

5:47 I was already in a more professional training, doing double gymnasium, track and so on. In this case, I already knew that I liked psychology and was in the sport part. Then I did not know how to unite them, because at that time I had no knowledge that there was a psychology based on sport. But I, since I mean, I really like this. I entered the University in the two thousand sixteen to study psychology at the University of the Forest, and there, I continued to study and in my sports discipline was already what I tell you, training full full, because I was already competing internationally. Then I had a good level at the time. What else does he tell you? Well, you' ve said a lot of things and I' m gonna start asking you why it happened to me.

6:46 It happened many times, it happens less and less, but that first international race, why it costs so much work and produces that theme is that it is quite the topic that can be drawn from it, especially because, well, you have prepared a lot for that type of competition, but everything is based on the experience, as when you are going to ride bike for the first time you will not make it perfect, then you should go to any competition with very clear objectives and very well structured objectives. If it is your first international competition, why do you put so much burden on yourself and rather the goal can be to enjoy this experience and do the best you can to focus on things that are under my control, because if I only focus on the result, then the result has a thousand factors on which a result depends.

7:55 It' s just that you, more than anyone else, know that you get out of the game and you can go through a lot, a lot of things, right, a lot. There are seven more runners you want, as well as when you say what is in our control and what is out of control, what can be those things that are in control as a runner and those that are not can seem obvious to many, but many people do not have the consciousness yet to be able to determine. This looks at factors that are within my control. There' s my technical part, there' s my mind control. Definitely nobody else depends on that. My peace of mind is getting my things ready. Let' s start on that side, not having everything very smart having to check my bike, having my diet, having my fluids. Seen on that side we have things that are under ok now let' s go to those that are out of my control.

8:56 I don' t control my coach' s expectations. That' s not under my control and, above all, for the kids. I don ' t control my parents' genius. Okay that' s one of the things because then I' m going to run is with the fear that if I don' t do it right they' ll give me right, that you don' t control it. This controls your dad and because it' s the management that has to give him ok ok You don' t control the public, for example, that can also play in some people for or against that then the scenic panic that they' re looking at me or I ' m there, that doesn' t control him then. That' s the thing. Let' s just say what you say to some can be obvious and for others it' s completely understandable. We need to clarify that, because we understand that many times one happens is like because of that dread and that I have to prove to people that I am good, or I have to prove to myself all that I have been training I am going to do in this race, and that is putting too much weight on me.

10:09 It' s a weight that' s unnecessary at the end, so more or less of that. It' s treated like that that' s inside and outside of how there are some tips or suggestions that you want to recommend to us independently if they' re going to be in a district, state, Latin American, national, world championship, race is career, but yes, why the attention is different, when besides, it shouldn' t be like that. They don' t tell him no world championship race and already one better said put the stick very high. The attention is very high, but they tell him it' s not district championship and I don' t.

10:52 Ah well, yes, I don' t know how one does to give respect to all races, because any race deserves respect, just like the runners we have next door, the one standing in a match is because he also pedals and also wants to win. What suggestions do you have to lower your nerves? From the perspective that you' ve studied psychological mental, I don' t know if maybe eating helps good practices and good ways to help lessen that attention that you suggest good, initially, to structure goals that are realistic and achievable. There is a structure to be objective that is called a technique called smart. Then the objectives have to be specific, measurable, achievable, realistic and have a date. So, a lot of times you get a few goals just thinking about what career I have you in two months.

12:01 So, for that race, my goal is to sort out the finals It ' s good to know what career it is and what your current level is. So, there you start to evaluate and you have to put yourself in a position where smart is real that I' m two months from now. If I' ve been training for five years and I' m at this point, whether I' m in two months, I can get to this point. I mean, that' s a matter of a long time, very objective, realistic and within my reach. Then I set myself some very clear goals and in this way I can be very landed when it comes to a competition. Experience is now very important as well. So, so you say. All races are important. Already there is a measure that is moving forward in sport and becoming more expert in sport, since one says already reaches an international race, then it is already a level of importance, perhaps a little higher. But the child who is in schools and so far is starting to compete, because a district to a festival is that high level of importance.

13:16 Cla is throughout the experience and one is increasingly feeling much more confident, much more calm. And a very important part also that is actually like the biggest subject of consultation that dads come to me and is that my son doesn ' t trust him. It' s like he trains very well, but when he gets to the races, he doesn' t run, he does, he doesn' t give up, he doesn' t do what he trains. Then let' s go from the experience with what I was saying to you. No one, nothing has been learned. Then one goes more and more and practises and faces more competitions, as I have more and more tools to be able to perform better. But above all it is that I can stand in that quiet partyer, with enough maturity also mental and trust in the process that I carry. It' s just that if I' ve been training a plan to the letter, gym, food, rest, track, repetitions and I' m aware of that, because who' s going to take away that trust in the partyer now is different when I start, it' s not that this week I took their body to the gym, like twice and last week I went partying. Or there' s a lot going on and obviously trust there is starting to get unbalanced. Ok Wow for the World Championship since two thousand twenty- four here in the United States,

14:50 exactly rock Hill, in North Caroline. It is a clue that many Colombians already know and know. They come from Colombia. That' s three hundred runners. It' s a huge number, which I' m very happy about between the Challenger category and the championship category. It' s a great opportunity to shine. Colombia is power in BMX and not only in sports. Now I also say that it is power in professionals like you Natalia Salamanca, who are around the BMX and who need it also to not go further.

15:33 The coach of the U S team is a Colombian. Professor Germán Medina Fabio Peña, the coach of the Colombian team, was also a runner. So I feel that more and more there is a professionalization of bm X, of which we must be more aware every day and make the sport continue to grow. And I' ve noticed it, because how many years I' ve been linked and scored and I like it and I' m proud of what you mean regardless of age, because looking at the categories of Colombians that we ' re going to be in the World Cup, you feel very happy to see from the category from the smallest in experts to the category of the greatest and most experienced. I don' t mean the biggest when and experienced when they necessarily are the elites, because after the elite and professional part, the career can continue. But there are people and there are runners who, when they don' t feel that at their moment in elite, they end their professional life. But that' s another topic and it' s a perhaps deeper conversation. But I want to ask you, or I want you to tell me, tell me, because I' m learning it too and I need it. What suggestions do you have for these runners that we go for the World Cup, without important age and category. Well, one of the

17:04 parts you commented on I' m passionate about a lot, which is life after the performance sport. It' s a subject that can give us a lot of things to talk about. And I feel like it' s all of a sudden, the least talked about. But suddenly we can leave it there in the inkwell, but a little next. But, but, tell me about any of that? Tell me about it? Tell me about it? That I just asked you if it catches your attention because I want to know other points of view. Of course you' re ready to get to a level with dreams and goals, with a pretty long job and then there, at that level it' s where it starts. Okay ready, I ' m getting what I proposed at that point, then I continue and so on, but it already reaches a level or, already it reaches an age where, definitely, because I can no longer continue in this elite category, not that of high performance sports life, it is actually very short. One from a certain age no longer renders in the same way, no longer performs the same and that is not a secret. But it does not mean that then your sports life is over the fact of being able to continue enjoying this sport as a passion as something that moves me, as something also social.

18:26 It' s just that we, who' ve been doing this for so many years, actually, these are our friends. Yeah, I mean, he doesn' t feel like friends here. Family. There are people you know from ten twenty years ago. If that' s your case, it was a lot of people who get part of 20 years. Thank you for saying twenty years. No. I think a little bit more I' m going to tell you I have we' re like a group of five, six or seven, we' re very close friends, but I think the most legendary of friends I shared with and still very active. In addition, he was injured at the national level, is recovering and is coming for the World Cup. Suddenly you know him is called Santiago Ospina. So that' s me, I' m forty- two. Thank you for saying it from 20 friends, 20 years ago. I think that almost thirty or a little more imagine yourself, but well, then, going back to what you were saying, is that it seems supremely interesting to me, because I have noticed and not only in Colombia. I remember a conversation I had with Maris Strommers, a double Olympic medalist who at the age of thirty, was still very young, and said that after the second Olympic Medal that year was very strong, because after running World Championship and well, he had season in the

19:56 United States and came one day to the track and felt that he no longer wanted, I already won everything, what else, and I asked him he said no, I don' t want anything. More. I don' t want to know anything else or anything about this. Well, now he ' s a golfer and he' s probably a level golfer, because he ' s an awesome athlete. But I kept thinking why at the age of thirty you are a very young person, still very young, Even at the age of thirty, I am forty- two, I went through thirty and at thirty I thought that I was not so young and still a person too young. At twenty, for you are not speaking and at twenty- five you are even better said. But why it fails there, what happens.

20:42 We need someone to help us, to guide us, to tell us, to show us. But then I don' t run elite anymore, so my life is over here and I feel like it' s a very strong shock for these athletes what they' re going to do next and you too what you think about me. I know it' s very difficult, while you' re in a performance athlete, to be able to study, but I' ve noticed that when the performance race stops and they don' t have an academic part in whatever it is, no, what happens there you think can be improved or sent a message to help these kind of runners that I see them, not just in Colombia, everywhere, everywhere in the world.

21:33 There' s a lot of issues. Well, this can go in two parts and well, yeah, yeah, my memory gives me. But, well, the first part is structured to because when we get to that level it' s over and I don' t want to know any more about this. And one ends almost that I have fought with the sointe that in the end it was a bit in my case too, that I didn ' t want to know anything more about bikecross I mean, I retired in the two thousand nineteen and because I came back from an academic exchange and took my bike and in that year I was preparing, because I had been preparing for four years for national games. And I came in the two thousand nineteen and said no more and I didn' t go back to the track, I mean, I didn' t show up there again, I didn' t want any more then at this point that I already have much more knowledge, I already have more experience where I can already say in a more accurate way a little of what was going on in my head at that time.

22:33 I feel like it' s happening here. It was my case and it is a rather delicate subject, because, of course, the high performance is quite demanding. And that' s where, then, because you' re worth the medal or you' re worth the result you' re playing in that competition and you forgot a little bit about that human part and that lot of things you have behind you don' t value that effort, that tour, that delivery, those workouts and all that emotional burden that also an athlete attracts behind you, but you' re required that in a competition that lasts thirty seconds, thirty- five seconds of its maximum, yes, effort and leaving behind as if you just closed a door and the rest disappeared. So, it demands that result And it' s ok medal or chavo to poyos, medal or chao recognition, because in a moment you' re here, but in a competition it may not have been your best competition. And for no one it' s a secret bye- bye, I mean, they lock your doors from one moment to the next. So it' s too much demand at that level, giving us a little more to the expectations part and others reaching that high level, high performance, high competition. And so in those ages, between the twenty and thirty, which is like anger in

24:06 this sport, where they are in this category, I heard. But then it' s a game of egos on one side, where then it' s that I' m already in this category, then I don' t compete in another, then I' m already out. And so if I retire, I' m not going to put myself to compete in one in a twenty- nine, another twenty and bet pro, for example, Bet Pro, which is still a very high level. The category Bet Pro in Colombia escapes the name of this country, which makes it very good that Nacho. Nacho has made category Bet Pro, the mosquito of Venezuela, the category Bet Pro, the same Barry Nobles category Bet Pro. And I feel that in this case, for example, of the three have understood well. Emilio Falla of Ecuador, who has also been here, in California. They believe they have understood the message that after that process and that culmination, there is much more. Not so, not in Colombia too, but Fabian Hernández, José Luis Díaz, who are dedicated to teaching and to this professionalizing Fabio Peña, have stopped competing. But what I feel is that if after that elite category there' s still a flame to compete. I think it should be stronger. And okay I' ll see, pro I' m going to

25:36 experts without any problem. I have the level and the experience, but they kind of don' t let him extrapolate, yes, and they do, but they' re still high- performance athletes. I mean, you see them throwing gymnastics before I don' t walk around or so. So, if there' s a life after that aside elite, what happens is that already athletes like they consider that from that point, from a certain point, you stop going, from being fun, to making a profession where I enjoy what I do, of course. But then, you kind of miss that component of which is that I like this sheath and that' s why I do it beyond the results and beyond what happens in the competition. It' s because I enjoy being on my bike and it' s inside that' s on the bike inside a track. I feel, I feel I can be I definitely miss a part a lot or you miss that part what you say, I' m sorry. I' m sorry all the time.

26:42 I' m sorry all the time. Every time I' m on the bike training in a race, I enjoy it more and more. I don ' t have any. I understand also the level of commitment of a performance athlete. What you just said the medal, the representation of the city of the country. It' s a profession. They don' t support me, they take away my support, they give it to me, the sponsors come. It' s a lot of things, but I want to ask you what you suggest or what you suggest that athletes, in this case or high performance from bigger protests or smaller ones. Also in which other areas, as you are doing and you discovered it, you can professionalize and be close to the BMX, not necessarily being in the match to win a World Cup or Olympics or any of these. How do you suggest, from your perspective and what you have analyzed within the market, in what more can be professionalized to continue contributing and continue connected to a passion. BMX is a passion, but I see it now as a profession. But it is a profession that has many other things, not just sports performance. What do you consider, what do you think good what you say the sport as such smart. You live it as a wonderful sportsman, but there is also a life behind it and you have to go on. Many times the athlete runs out of his

28:17 life and what you said a little earlier neither studied nor liked anything else, nor did he devote himself to anything else. Then it gets to a point where I was left as a handle, like starting from scratch. But let ' s say, especially in my generation, those of us who came from those processes and so on that now several of us are not specifically dedicated to high- performance sports as athletes, but several are already coaches by certified coaches. That right now comes an era where ready before was well known that the one who was a good athlete then is coach. Okay. That' s a bit in doubt, because there' s a lot of components behind a club. It' s a plus, yes, it' s a club, but in this new era. Yes, and you remind me of a guy who was doing very well and now he' s the Guatemala recruiter.

29:14 I don' t kill the kin Chane, he' s still your generation, he' s a lot smaller than me, and then wow, what he' s doing is also important to me. Go on, excuse me Yes, that' s right. So, even though being a sportsman gives you an impressive foundation, because to finance, that is, you live what the sportsman is living as such, because there is basic knowledge and there is a theoretical part that does not give you sportsmanship. Then from my generation come several where they are already coaches, but they are certified coaches and they have been changing a little bit the chip of the way in which they are trained already seeing the most sportsman from their global context, from their family context, their personal context, since it is also important, for example, to have a good performance in school. Not everyone is doing well, because we are not all good at everything, but definitely, it is part of itself, it is part of that discipline, it is part of that complement. And then you don' t have to be number one in your school, but sport is equivalent. With this part as an academic, let' s say looking from that part more towards discipline. Now ready, in the psychological part, where there is not so much knowledge that in sport you needed a psychologist,

30:45 a person who prepares you at the mental level. Super guests to everyone, because this is an awesome sheath. I mean, I' m really passionate about this, and I think it shows. But the athlete is understood from all his contexts, at the mental level, from everything that comes, that what carries, all that past, all that family history, also affects and is also seen to result in a competition. It' s not just what you see at that point. How do you ask this question? They sent it to me. It' s not a question posed by mex How is it done to release those burdens that you say, a family burden, that affects the sport. How can I do beyond recognizing it or understanding it or understanding what happened, how I do to improve or to free it.

31:44 Psychonomic Doctor, you definitely have to do a process, and a process with a clinical psychologist ok the psychologist of or will help you in many ways, but there is a lot of history behind that they give themselves to work with a clinical psychologist, where you must have those tools to be able to manage all those things, keep in mind what are the things that are within my control and what are not within my control. So, yes, it' s family history where I suddenly charge that my dad scolded me, after that in every competition or that suddenly I didn' t have a good relationship with my dad or my mom or the person who was my caregiver at the time.

32:31 Then he' s smart. That was something that affected me at the time and maybe it' s a consequence of what I' m doing today. But I take care of what I can modify. So I' m not going to drag that bunch of behaviors and that bunch of history I have to act the same way, but I knew something clinical. I do a process where I restructure this whole story and start changing patterns of behavior. Or what happened with my dad or what happened with my caregiver, because I can no longer do anything at all, but through a clinical psychologist who gives me tools and from this moment on, start acting in a different way. That ' s very important. Why do I do it like this, because there is also a lot like this that I told you at the beginning, because Ahorita is in Furor this part of the mental training and so on, Ahorita, there are many coach who are not based on that psychological part, but dedicated specifically to this part of motivation, discipline and constancy and so on.

33:45 But then, it' s definitely science and evidence says so. One needs to have bases on how human beings work, human behavior, reinforcement and punishment. So, I repeat what gives me backup and for nothing I' m going to do something that' s a punishment for me. So let' s say it' s coming back and that' s why it' s very important that you have that component, not everyone. I don' t mean the coaches are bad at all. Nothing to do with that, but yes, one has to be much more delicate when it comes to talking about these issues, because it' s not just about you being told, imagine that you can win it and that you' re going to do it and it' s ready and magically going to happen, because without a doubt that doesn' t work so much because those who didn' t. I mean, it would be very simple a lot of things behind it and the evidence says so then. That' s why it' s so important to base it. If you' re going to deal with human beings, this mental part has to be a definitely natal psychologist like I do to handle a career situation, how I should do, what you suggest I have an ending is an end, regardless of the final it' s final in whatever it is in the end, it' s final what you said. For a little

35:16 boy the end of his district can scare him or represent the same thing as for someone with a lot of experience who is before a final of a world championship. What you suggest not necessarily final, cannot be semifinal, that the semifinal has a attention that is sometimes different than the finale itself. Sorting sleeves, some tips to drive or to improve those situations before an end, and also how you handle a situation when you have a situation within the race track that you feel you were either very aggressive or very aggressive. With you, okay I' ll notice because yes, yes, yes, yes, sor arrange I know the demo. How do I do before an end, how do I prepare for the moment. We start with what' s one more lap. You' re not going to do magic. You' re not going to do things you haven' t done before. You' re not going to start making up what you' ve already trained, you' ve already trained him, and you' re going to come up with a rather well done ride. Then that' s where I start it' s a well- done turn. So it' s not just getting ahead on the finish line. A well- done turn is to get out on time at the matcher. A well- done turn is speeding up the party' s descent. A well- made turn is to be precise in my technique,

36:51 a well- made turn of neglecting my career line. Right, a lot of components that come after a good Hueta. Then it' s not that simple. Yeah, I' m gonna run the finals. Then I put a little pressure on myself, because it' s either the semifinal. Then I have to stay in the top four. Or else it' s nothing anymore. This was worth it. Okay. That' s not under my control, because there are seven more runners who also want to be there and there are a lot of career situations, which is the second question that you can present a moment of a peralte where, obviously, a semi, an end, everyone goes in to kill, because I have to get out of there, right, but then that' s what' s under my control.

37:37 Then I' ll concentrate on the partyer. Super- important breathing. There' s a guy I vote for, a body scan. That' s going to be I' ll tell you how it works, but that ' s going to focus on me at the moment and stop thinking about what I' m going to do. Inside the clue that' s going to worry about the furthest away, the farthest from the future. I' m gonna get ready and I' m gonna concentrate on him. Put up the party board. I stand on my bike, I use my basic feet as if you use choclos in choclar well, have the position of my feet well, because because of the pressure and for a lot of things, to be anxious, I forget that the foot goes like this. And that' s not how it goes. So, when I' m gonna send the other pedal, they call me a true shock. Then I have to do a body scan. Let' s start with the rim on the board well positioned, I get on the bike and start with feet, legs, back shoulders, arms and head. How is the position of my body in that case.

38:45 It' s not the same going out here as coming out here, really, the movement changes completely, but by fallacy, by expectations, by when I think only about the result, my very muscles unconsciously begin to pay attention. Then I start and it' s the pain you usually have here. So it' s like the pain, the popular myco, the myco, squeezes your whole body voluntarily before you get on the board, squeezes your whole body with all the strength, three seconds and relaxes, and so the muscles that were strained are going to relax and they' re going to feel more prepared and but quieter. At that moment you get on the board, you do body roughing, a deep breath and we' re out of time, because those are thousands and more than two seconds that last the voices.

39:42 So, at that point, it' s already starting to loke Righthrs. When there' s the second space. I already have to be ready with prepa scan, that is, it' s caneolisto. Already there, at that point it is comfortable. My position and gaze fix at traffic lights steves tighten and relax the body at that point are pickled at the attack. Well, what? Well, what? What? Good tips Natalia and good we ' re going to close. I want to thank you for your time, thank you for all that knowledge, that much- needed information, so vital that I feel like it falls very well a few days before the World Championship. However, because it is a content that will always work, it will always serve for us to prepare, for us to be better mentally and obviously physically also helps, but above all the mental part that today is so important in all corridors, in all ages. I don' t know if you want to add anything for the closure. Please, of course I do.

40:49 Enjoy those who are going to this World Cup. Enjoy this opportunity Go Go Go Go Go Go. It' s the first time of many and it ' s quite possibly going to be the only time they get the chance. I hope not, but for several it is going to be this approach, that they have to a competition of this level where they will see the referents of the world in what they are most passionate about. Then go as with that willingness to enjoy it, to have a good time focusing on that beyond what may happen. Of course, we' re going with a very strong training and so on. But when you enjoy yourself, things start to flow in a different way. That, on the one hand, and because also the fact that it is affordable that we have it a little close to the World Cup, near Colombia, because they are usually in Europe. One has to stick to a rather more expensive journey. What this World Cup can do.

42:00 Enjoy the opportunity if you are going to go, compete and depart from that beginning if I enjoy it. I' m gonna feel a lot better doing what I do. One lap at a time you' re gonna compete. One sleeve is one lap at a time don' t worry about the finals yet. One lap at a time. Oh thank you, Natalia for sharing this that is a good message for all those who like this sport, that what we don' t want, love it, we carry it printed on our adn our blood. We' ll keep going. I' m sure and good. I thought it was so important to have you thank for your time, for your knowledge, for the good vibe and we' ll see you on the track or somewhere. The podcast episode will be available to all people who want to share it on all platforms, that Apple, all podcast platforms share it and learn a little more about that so beautiful that it is the BMX or the visi Motor Sicle extrem as the Americans call it.

43:14 Thank you, Natalia, for your time. Thank you so much for the invitation and I' ll see you on viax b bye to see you more. Thanks Big b Radis, bi b n h Kins s