El Poder mental para BMX, trucos, tips. Invitada : Natalia Salamanca. (Psicóloga)

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M s b S, Hello Well, Comery Boy, Thin Special Tracks and

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Walt to few t p s,
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Than n Ouren Fabulous Photographs. And
now I do want to welcome you to

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this new episode of the first BMX
podcast in Spanish, in an episode that

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is going to have a very special
guest before. I also want to thank

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our sponsors, a ple Way Podcast
Network, a lew Uno bm X Club

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in the two hundred thirty- five
north of the city of Bogotá. There

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' s a lot of anxiety these
days. I' m telling you who

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our guest is, because the World
Championship is coming. He spent the Pan

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American Championship in Bogotá and the Latin
American Championship at that stop, in that

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international race that took place on the
Carlos Ramírez track, were about a thousand

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registered runners. Obviously, the volume
of Colombia, quite strong and from many

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countries that accompanied us in a career, was very important. I think it

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can be a career for Latin America
after the World Cup. I think it

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' s the most important race.
The organization was very good, what I

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saw could not be there, but
I saw many happy faces, good organization,

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a good show. So congratulations to
the entire Pan- American and Latin

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American organization that took place in Bogotá, Colombia and today a guest who will

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share very special things with us.
She has been and will remain a bm

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X runner. That psychologist also has
a master' s degree in all these

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topics that help us and that help
the runners to have better presentations to strengthen.

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We not only strengthen the physical part, but the mental part. It

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' s fundamental. So Natalia Salamanca, who is also very young and is

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already quite intellectually prepared to help us, and I want to invite her and

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greet her. Hey, Natalia,
how you doing. How are you doing?

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Hello, Alejandro, how are you? I am very well, very

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excited to be here, super super
happy to be able to share, from

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my experience and also from the Academy, everything that I have been learning throughout

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these years and, above all,
to be able to share with you that,

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in the end is what I seek
not to give that knowledge that the

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mind of mental training ceases to be
also something so far from reality. It

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is part of a training as well
as the technical part, of the physical

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part. Super super important and so
take advantage right now that is also very

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booming. Now many of the things
that sound are trending. So everyone wants

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to go that way, you have
to take advantage of it and definitely,

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the science- based, sport-
based mental training is very booming and you

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have to definitely do it. Makes
a difference what a thrill it is to

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be here. Thank you so much
for the Natalia invitation. Tell us well

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some of your experience as a sportsman
and now you are still a sportsman,

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but as a professional in that training
of mental preparation. Tell us a little

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bit about your profile and we come
in with several questions that I have for

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you clearly yes, well as a
sportsman, I started very small. I

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started when I was nine. I
got to the Mario Soto track, with

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my mom, with my brother,
we saw the bic Cross track. There

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were no girls and I want that
super animated, I want that sport and

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there it started as my sports career. At first it was very, to

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go around on the track, to
enjoy the weekends, but things went away

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and then I started to like with
more discipline going more days during the week,

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competing nationally, competing I also started
to compete outside. I did a

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lot of things while I was in
the sport. I always needed, like

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that psychological component, that part where
you start to regulate those emotions, because

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you definitely get to a competition outside
and then you start. I don'

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t have too much expectation on me. I have to win, which in

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the end is the goal that most
people have when they go out or when

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they compete in general, I have
to win and it is to put too

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much pressure on them. Then I
had the good opportion ready. I'

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m done with school. But during
school I was very, very focused.

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I was already in a more professional
training, doing double gymnasium, track and

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so on. In this case,
I already knew that I liked psychology and

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was in the sport part. Then
I did not know how to unite them,

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because at that time I had no
knowledge that there was a psychology based

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on sport. But I, since
I mean, I really like this.

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I entered the University in the two
thousand sixteen to study psychology at the University

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of the Forest, and there,
I continued to study and in my sports

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discipline was already what I tell you, training full full, because I was

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already competing internationally. Then I had
a good level at the time. What

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else does he tell you? Well, you' ve said a lot of

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things and I' m gonna start
asking you why it happened to me.

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It happened many times, it happens
less and less, but that first international

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race, why it costs so much
work and produces that theme is that it

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is quite the topic that can be
drawn from it, especially because, well,

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you have prepared a lot for that
type of competition, but everything is

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based on the experience, as when
you are going to ride bike for the

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first time you will not make it
perfect, then you should go to any

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competition with very clear objectives and very
well structured objectives. If it is your

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first international competition, why do you
put so much burden on yourself and rather

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the goal can be to enjoy this
experience and do the best you can to

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focus on things that are under my
control, because if I only focus on

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the result, then the result has
a thousand factors on which a result depends.

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It' s just that you,
more than anyone else, know that

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you get out of the game and
you can go through a lot, a

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lot of things, right, a
lot. There are seven more runners you

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want, as well as when you
say what is in our control and what

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is out of control, what can
be those things that are in control as

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a runner and those that are not
can seem obvious to many, but many

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people do not have the consciousness yet
to be able to determine. This looks

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at factors that are within my control. There' s my technical part,

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there' s my mind control.
Definitely nobody else depends on that. My

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peace of mind is getting my things
ready. Let' s start on that

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side, not having everything very smart
having to check my bike, having my

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diet, having my fluids. Seen
on that side we have things that are

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under ok now let' s go
to those that are out of my control.

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I don' t control my coach' s expectations. That' s

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not under my control and, above
all, for the kids. I don

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' t control my parents' genius. Okay that' s one of the

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things because then I' m going
to run is with the fear that if

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I don' t do it right
they' ll give me right, that

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you don' t control it.
This controls your dad and because it'

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s the management that has to give
him ok ok You don' t control

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the public, for example, that
can also play in some people for or

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against that then the scenic panic that
they' re looking at me or I

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' m there, that doesn'
t control him then. That' s

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the thing. Let' s just
say what you say to some can be

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obvious and for others it' s
completely understandable. We need to clarify that,

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because we understand that many times one
happens is like because of that dread

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and that I have to prove to
people that I am good, or I

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have to prove to myself all that
I have been training I am going to

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do in this race, and that
is putting too much weight on me.

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It' s a weight that'
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or less of that. It'
s treated like that that' s inside

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and outside of how there are some
tips or suggestions that you want to recommend

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to us independently if they' re
going to be in a district, state,

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Latin American, national, world championship, race is career, but yes,

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why the attention is different, when
besides, it shouldn' t be

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like that. They don' t
tell him no world championship race and already

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one better said put the stick very
high. The attention is very high,

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but they tell him it' s
not district championship and I don' t.

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Ah well, yes, I don' t know how one does to

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give respect to all races, because
any race deserves respect, just like the

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runners we have next door, the
one standing in a match is because he

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also pedals and also wants to win. What suggestions do you have to lower

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your nerves? From the perspective that
you' ve studied psychological mental, I

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don' t know if maybe eating
helps good practices and good ways to help

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lessen that attention that you suggest good, initially, to structure goals that are

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realistic and achievable. There is a
structure to be objective that is called a

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technique called smart. Then the objectives
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realistic and have a date. So, a lot of times you get

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a few goals just thinking about what
career I have you in two months.

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So, for that race, my
goal is to sort out the finals It

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' s good to know what career
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So, there you start to evaluate
and you have to put yourself in

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a position where smart is real that
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If I' ve been training for
five years and I' m at this

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point, whether I' m in
two months, I can get to this

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point. I mean, that'
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very objective, realistic and within my
reach. Then I set myself some very

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clear goals and in this way I
can be very landed when it comes to

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a competition. Experience is now very
important as well. So, so you

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say. All races are important.
Already there is a measure that is moving

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forward in sport and becoming more expert
in sport, since one says already reaches

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an international race, then it is
already a level of importance, perhaps a

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little higher. But the child who
is in schools and so far is starting

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to compete, because a district to
a festival is that high level of importance.

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Cla is throughout the experience and one
is increasingly feeling much more confident,

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much more calm. And a very
important part also that is actually like the

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biggest subject of consultation that dads come
to me and is that my son doesn

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' t trust him. It'
s like he trains very well, but

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when he gets to the races,
he doesn' t run, he does,

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he doesn' t give up,
he doesn' t do what he

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trains. Then let' s go
from the experience with what I was saying

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to you. No one, nothing
has been learned. Then one goes more

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and more and practises and faces more
competitions, as I have more and more

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tools to be able to perform better. But above all it is that I

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can stand in that quiet partyer,
with enough maturity also mental and trust in

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the process that I carry. It' s just that if I' ve

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been training a plan to the letter, gym, food, rest, track,

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repetitions and I' m aware of
that, because who' s going

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to take away that trust in the
partyer now is different when I start,

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it' s not that this week
I took their body to the gym,

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like twice and last week I went
partying. Or there' s a lot

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going on and obviously trust there is
starting to get unbalanced. Ok Wow for

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the World Championship since two thousand twenty- four here in the United States,

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exactly rock Hill, in North Caroline. It is a clue that many Colombians

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already know and know. They come
from Colombia. That' s three hundred

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runners. It' s a huge
number, which I' m very happy

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about between the Challenger category and the
championship category. It' s a great

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opportunity to shine. Colombia is power
in BMX and not only in sports.

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Now I also say that it is
power in professionals like you Natalia Salamanca,

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who are around the BMX and who
need it also to not go further.

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The coach of the U S team
is a Colombian. Professor Germán Medina Fabio

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Peña, the coach of the Colombian
team, was also a runner. So

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I feel that more and more there
is a professionalization of bm X, of

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which we must be more aware every
day and make the sport continue to grow.

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And I' ve noticed it,
because how many years I' ve

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been linked and scored and I like
it and I' m proud of what

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you mean regardless of age, because
looking at the categories of Colombians that we

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' re going to be in the
World Cup, you feel very happy to

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see from the category from the smallest
in experts to the category of the greatest

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and most experienced. I don'
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they necessarily are the elites, because
after the elite and professional part, the

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career can continue. But there are
people and there are runners who, when

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they don' t feel that at
their moment in elite, they end their

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professional life. But that' s
another topic and it' s a perhaps

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deeper conversation. But I want to
ask you, or I want you to

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tell me, tell me, because
I' m learning it too and I

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need it. What suggestions do you
have for these runners that we go for

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the World Cup, without important age
and category. Well, one of the

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parts you commented on I' m
passionate about a lot, which is life

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after the performance sport. It'
s a subject that can give us a

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lot of things to talk about.
And I feel like it' s all

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of a sudden, the least talked
about. But suddenly we can leave it

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there in the inkwell, but a
little next. But, but, tell

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me about any of that? Tell
me about it? Tell me about it?

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That I just asked you if it
catches your attention because I want to

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know other points of view. Of
course you' re ready to get to

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a level with dreams and goals,
with a pretty long job and then there,

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at that level it' s where
it starts. Okay ready, I

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' m getting what I proposed at
that point, then I continue and so

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on, but it already reaches a
level or, already it reaches an age

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where, definitely, because I can
no longer continue in this elite category,

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not that of high performance sports life, it is actually very short. One

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from a certain age no longer renders
in the same way, no longer performs

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the same and that is not a
secret. But it does not mean that

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then your sports life is over the
fact of being able to continue enjoying this

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sport as a passion as something that
moves me, as something also social.

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It' s just that we,
who' ve been doing this for so

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many years, actually, these are
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he doesn' t feel like friends
here. Family. There are people you

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know from ten twenty years ago.
If that' s your case, it

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was a lot of people who get
part of 20 years. Thank you for

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saying twenty years. No. I
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going to tell you I have we' re like a group of five,

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six or seven, we' re
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most legendary of friends I shared with
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he was injured at the national level, is recovering and is coming for the

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World Cup. Suddenly you know him
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s me, I' m forty- two. Thank you for saying it

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from 20 friends, 20 years ago. I think that almost thirty or a

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little more imagine yourself, but well, then, going back to what you

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were saying, is that it seems
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noticed and not only in Colombia.
I remember a conversation I had with Maris

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Strommers, a double Olympic medalist who
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very young, and said that after
the second Olympic Medal that year was very

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strong, because after running World Championship
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United States and came one day to
the track and felt that he no longer

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wanted, I already won everything,
what else, and I asked him he

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said no, I don' t
want anything. More. I don'

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t want to know anything else or
anything about this. Well, now he

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' s a golfer and he'
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' s an awesome athlete. But
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thirty you are a very young person, still very young, Even at the

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age of thirty, I am forty- two, I went through thirty and

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at thirty I thought that I was
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young. At twenty, for you
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you are even better said. But
why it fails there, what happens.

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We need someone to help us,
to guide us, to tell us,

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to show us. But then I
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my life is over here and I
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shock for these athletes what they'
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what you think about me. I
know it' s very difficult, while

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you' re in a performance athlete, to be able to study, but

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I' ve noticed that when the
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have an academic part in whatever it
is, no, what happens there you

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think can be improved or sent a
message to help these kind of runners that

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I see them, not just in
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There' s a lot of issues. Well, this can go in

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two parts and well, yeah,
yeah, my memory gives me. But,

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well, the first part is structured
to because when we get to that

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level it' s over and I
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about this. And one ends almost
that I have fought with the sointe that

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in the end it was a bit
in my case too, that I didn

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' t want to know anything more
about bikecross I mean, I retired in

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the two thousand nineteen and because I
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my bike and in that year I
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for four years for national games.
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and said no more and I didn' t go back to the track,

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I mean, I didn' t
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t want any more then at this
point that I already have much more knowledge,

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I already have more experience where I
can already say in a more accurate

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way a little of what was going
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I feel like it' s happening
here. It was my case and it

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is a rather delicate subject, because, of course, the high performance is

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quite demanding. And that' s
where, then, because you' re

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worth the medal or you' re
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that competition and you forgot a little
bit about that human part and that lot

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of things you have behind you don' t value that effort, that tour,

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that delivery, those workouts and all
that emotional burden that also an athlete

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attracts behind you, but you'
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thirty seconds, thirty- five seconds
of its maximum, yes, effort and

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leaving behind as if you just closed
a door and the rest disappeared. So,

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it demands that result And it'
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medal or chao recognition, because in
a moment you' re here,

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but in a competition it may not
have been your best competition. And for

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no one it' s a secret
bye- bye, I mean, they

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lock your doors from one moment to
the next. So it' s too

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much demand at that level, giving
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and others reaching that high level,
high performance, high competition. And so

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in those ages, between the twenty
and thirty, which is like anger in

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this sport, where they are in
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it' s a game of egos
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s that I' m already in
this category, then I don' t

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compete in another, then I'
m already out. And so if I

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retire, I' m not going
to put myself to compete in one in

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a twenty- nine, another twenty
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Pro, which is still a very
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Colombia escapes the name of this country, which makes it very good that Nacho.

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Nacho has made category Bet Pro,
the mosquito of Venezuela, the category

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Bet Pro, the same Barry Nobles
category Bet Pro. And I feel that

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in this case, for example,
of the three have understood well. Emilio

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Falla of Ecuador, who has also
been here, in California. They believe

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they have understood the message that after
that process and that culmination, there is

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much more. Not so, not
in Colombia too, but Fabian Hernández,

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José Luis Díaz, who are dedicated
to teaching and to this professionalizing Fabio Peña,

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have stopped competing. But what I
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category there' s still a flame
to compete. I think it should be

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stronger. And okay I' ll
see, pro I' m going to

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experts without any problem. I have
the level and the experience, but they

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kind of don' t let him
extrapolate, yes, and they do,

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but they' re still high-
performance athletes. I mean, you see

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them throwing gymnastics before I don'
t walk around or so. So,

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if there' s a life after
that aside elite, what happens is that

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already athletes like they consider that from
that point, from a certain point,

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you stop going, from being fun, to making a profession where I enjoy

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what I do, of course.
But then, you kind of miss that

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component of which is that I like
this sheath and that' s why I

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do it beyond the results and beyond
what happens in the competition. It'

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s because I enjoy being on my
bike and it' s inside that'

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s on the bike inside a track. I feel, I feel I can

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be I definitely miss a part a
lot or you miss that part what you

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say, I' m sorry.
I' m sorry all the time.

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I' m sorry all the time. Every time I' m on the

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bike training in a race, I
enjoy it more and more. I don

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' t have any. I understand
also the level of commitment of a performance

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athlete. What you just said the
medal, the representation of the city of

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the country. It' s a
profession. They don' t support me,

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they take away my support, they
give it to me, the sponsors

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come. It' s a lot
of things, but I want to ask

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you what you suggest or what you
suggest that athletes, in this case or

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high performance from bigger protests or smaller
ones. Also in which other areas,

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as you are doing and you discovered
it, you can professionalize and be close

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to the BMX, not necessarily being
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or Olympics or any of these.
How do you suggest, from your perspective

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and what you have analyzed within the
market, in what more can be professionalized

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to continue contributing and continue connected to
a passion. BMX is a passion,

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but I see it now as a
profession. But it is a profession that

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has many other things, not just
sports performance. What do you consider,

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what do you think good what you
say the sport as such smart. You

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live it as a wonderful sportsman,
but there is also a life behind it

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and you have to go on.
Many times the athlete runs out of his

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life and what you said a little
earlier neither studied nor liked anything else,

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nor did he devote himself to anything
else. Then it gets to a point

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where I was left as a handle, like starting from scratch. But let

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' s say, especially in my
generation, those of us who came from

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those processes and so on that now
several of us are not specifically dedicated to

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high- performance sports as athletes,
but several are already coaches by certified coaches.

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That right now comes an era where
ready before was well known that the

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one who was a good athlete then
is coach. Okay. That' s

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a bit in doubt, because there' s a lot of components behind a

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club. It' s a plus, yes, it' s a club,

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but in this new era. Yes, and you remind me of a

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guy who was doing very well and
now he' s the Guatemala recruiter.

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I don' t kill the kin
Chane, he' s still your generation,

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he' s a lot smaller than
me, and then wow, what

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he' s doing is also important
to me. Go on, excuse me

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Yes, that' s right.
So, even though being a sportsman gives

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you an impressive foundation, because to
finance, that is, you live what

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the sportsman is living as such,
because there is basic knowledge and there is

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a theoretical part that does not give
you sportsmanship. Then from my generation come

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several where they are already coaches,
but they are certified coaches and they have

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been changing a little bit the chip
of the way in which they are trained

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already seeing the most sportsman from their
global context, from their family context,

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their personal context, since it is
also important, for example, to have

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a good performance in school. Not
everyone is doing well, because we are

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not all good at everything, but
definitely, it is part of itself,

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it is part of that discipline,
it is part of that complement. And

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then you don' t have to
be number one in your school, but

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sport is equivalent. With this part
as an academic, let' s say

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looking from that part more towards discipline. Now ready, in the psychological part,

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where there is not so much knowledge
that in sport you needed a psychologist,

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a person who prepares you at the
mental level. Super guests to everyone,

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because this is an awesome sheath.
I mean, I' m really

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passionate about this, and I think
it shows. But the athlete is understood

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from all his contexts, at the
mental level, from everything that comes,

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that what carries, all that past, all that family history, also affects

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and is also seen to result in
a competition. It' s not just

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what you see at that point.
How do you ask this question? They

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sent it to me. It'
s not a question posed by mex How

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is it done to release those burdens
that you say, a family burden,

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that affects the sport. How can
I do beyond recognizing it or understanding it

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or understanding what happened, how I
do to improve or to free it.

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Psychonomic Doctor, you definitely have to
do a process, and a process with

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a clinical psychologist ok the psychologist of
or will help you in many ways,

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but there is a lot of history
behind that they give themselves to work with

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a clinical psychologist, where you must
have those tools to be able to manage

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all those things, keep in mind
what are the things that are within my

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control and what are not within my
control. So, yes, it'

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s family history where I suddenly charge
that my dad scolded me, after that

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in every competition or that suddenly I
didn' t have a good relationship with

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my dad or my mom or the
person who was my caregiver at the time.

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Then he' s smart. That
was something that affected me at the

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time and maybe it' s a
consequence of what I' m doing today.

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But I take care of what I
can modify. So I' m

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not going to drag that bunch of
behaviors and that bunch of history I have

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to act the same way, but
I knew something clinical. I do a

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process where I restructure this whole story
and start changing patterns of behavior. Or

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what happened with my dad or what
happened with my caregiver, because I can

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no longer do anything at all,
but through a clinical psychologist who gives me

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tools and from this moment on,
start acting in a different way. That

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' s very important. Why do
I do it like this, because there

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is also a lot like this that
I told you at the beginning, because

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Ahorita is in Furor this part of
the mental training and so on, Ahorita,

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there are many coach who are not
based on that psychological part, but

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dedicated specifically to this part of motivation, discipline and constancy and so on.

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But then, it' s definitely
science and evidence says so. One needs

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to have bases on how human beings
work, human behavior, reinforcement and punishment.

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So, I repeat what gives me
backup and for nothing I' m

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going to do something that' s
a punishment for me. So let'

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s say it' s coming back
and that' s why it' s

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very important that you have that component, not everyone. I don' t

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mean the coaches are bad at all. Nothing to do with that, but

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yes, one has to be much
more delicate when it comes to talking about

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these issues, because it' s
not just about you being told, imagine

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that you can win it and that
you' re going to do it and

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it' s ready and magically going
to happen, because without a doubt that

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doesn' t work so much because
those who didn' t. I mean,

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it would be very simple a lot
of things behind it and the evidence

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says so then. That' s
why it' s so important to base

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it. If you' re going
to deal with human beings, this mental

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part has to be a definitely natal
psychologist like I do to handle a career

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situation, how I should do,
what you suggest I have an ending is

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an end, regardless of the final
it' s final in whatever it is

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in the end, it' s
final what you said. For a little

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boy the end of his district can
scare him or represent the same thing as

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for someone with a lot of experience
who is before a final of a world

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championship. What you suggest not necessarily
final, cannot be semifinal, that the

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semifinal has a attention that is sometimes
different than the finale itself. Sorting sleeves,

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some tips to drive or to improve
those situations before an end, and

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also how you handle a situation when
you have a situation within the race track

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that you feel you were either very
aggressive or very aggressive. With you,

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okay I' ll notice because yes, yes, yes, yes, sor

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arrange I know the demo. How
do I do before an end, how

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do I prepare for the moment.
We start with what' s one more

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lap. You' re not going
to do magic. You' re not

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going to do things you haven'
t done before. You' re not

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going to start making up what you' ve already trained, you' ve

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already trained him, and you'
re going to come up with a rather

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well done ride. Then that'
s where I start it' s a

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well- done turn. So it' s not just getting ahead on the

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finish line. A well- done
turn is to get out on time at

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the matcher. A well- done
turn is speeding up the party' s

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descent. A well- made turn
is to be precise in my technique,

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a well- made turn of neglecting
my career line. Right, a lot

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of components that come after a good
Hueta. Then it' s not that

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simple. Yeah, I' m
gonna run the finals. Then I put

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a little pressure on myself, because
it' s either the semifinal. Then

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I have to stay in the top
four. Or else it' s nothing

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anymore. This was worth it.
Okay. That' s not under my

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control, because there are seven more
runners who also want to be there and

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there are a lot of career situations, which is the second question that you

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can present a moment of a peralte
where, obviously, a semi, an

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end, everyone goes in to kill, because I have to get out of

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there, right, but then that' s what' s under my control.

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Then I' ll concentrate on the
partyer. Super- important breathing.

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There' s a guy I vote
for, a body scan. That'

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s going to be I' ll
tell you how it works, but that

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' s going to focus on me
at the moment and stop thinking about what

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I' m going to do.
Inside the clue that' s going to

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worry about the furthest away, the
farthest from the future. I' m

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gonna get ready and I' m
gonna concentrate on him. Put up the

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party board. I stand on my
bike, I use my basic feet as

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if you use choclos in choclar well, have the position of my feet well,

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because because of the pressure and for
a lot of things, to be

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anxious, I forget that the foot
goes like this. And that' s

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not how it goes. So,
when I' m gonna send the other

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pedal, they call me a true
shock. Then I have to do a

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body scan. Let' s start
with the rim on the board well positioned,

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I get on the bike and start
with feet, legs, back shoulders,

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arms and head. How is the
position of my body in that case.

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It' s not the same going
out here as coming out here,

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really, the movement changes completely,
but by fallacy, by expectations, by

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when I think only about the result, my very muscles unconsciously begin to pay

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attention. Then I start and it' s the pain you usually have here.

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So it' s like the pain, the popular myco, the myco,

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squeezes your whole body voluntarily before you
get on the board, squeezes your

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whole body with all the strength,
three seconds and relaxes, and so the

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muscles that were strained are going to
relax and they' re going to feel

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more prepared and but quieter. At
that moment you get on the board,

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you do body roughing, a deep
breath and we' re out of time,

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because those are thousands and more than
two seconds that last the voices.

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So, at that point, it' s already starting to loke Righthrs.

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When there' s the second space. I already have to be ready with

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prepa scan, that is, it' s caneolisto. Already there, at

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that point it is comfortable. My
position and gaze fix at traffic lights steves

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tighten and relax the body at that
point are pickled at the attack. Well,

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what? Well, what? What? Good tips Natalia and good we

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' re going to close. I
want to thank you for your time,

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thank you for all that knowledge,
that much- needed information, so vital

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that I feel like it falls very
well a few days before the World Championship.

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However, because it is a content
that will always work, it will

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always serve for us to prepare,
for us to be better mentally and obviously

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physically also helps, but above all
the mental part that today is so important

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in all corridors, in all ages. I don' t know if you

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want to add anything for the closure. Please, of course I do.

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Enjoy those who are going to this
World Cup. Enjoy this opportunity Go Go

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Go Go Go Go. It'
s the first time of many and it

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' s quite possibly going to be
the only time they get the chance.

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I hope not, but for several
it is going to be this approach,

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that they have to a competition of
this level where they will see the referents

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of the world in what they are
most passionate about. Then go as with

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that willingness to enjoy it, to
have a good time focusing on that beyond

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what may happen. Of course,
we' re going with a very strong

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training and so on. But when
you enjoy yourself, things start to flow

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in a different way. That,
on the one hand, and because also

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the fact that it is affordable that
we have it a little close to the

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World Cup, near Colombia, because
they are usually in Europe. One has

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to stick to a rather more expensive
journey. What this World Cup can do.

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Enjoy the opportunity if you are going
to go, compete and depart from

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that beginning if I enjoy it.
I' m gonna feel a lot better

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doing what I do. One lap
at a time you' re gonna compete.

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One sleeve is one lap at a
time don' t worry about the

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finals yet. One lap at a
time. Oh thank you, Natalia for

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sharing this that is a good message
for all those who like this sport,

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that what we don' t want, love it, we carry it printed

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on our adn our blood. We' ll keep going. I' m

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sure and good. I thought it
was so important to have you thank for

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your time, for your knowledge,
for the good vibe and we' ll

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see you on the track or somewhere. The podcast episode will be available to

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all people who want to share it
on all platforms, that Apple, all

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podcast platforms share it and learn a
little more about that so beautiful that it

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is the BMX or the visi Motor
Sicle extrem as the Americans call it.

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Thank you, Natalia, for your
time. Thank you so much for the

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invitation and I' ll see you
on viax b bye to see you more.

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Thanks Big b Radis, bi b
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