March 17, 2024
¿Cómo vencer la apatía?

Esta fue la pregunta que me hizo un joven, seguramente esperaba una palabra mágica, pero lo primero que hice fue preguntarle, ¿qué entiendes por apatía?
Esta fue la pregunta que me hizo un joven, seguramente esperaba una palabra mágica, pero lo primero que hice fue preguntarle, ¿qué entiendes por apatía?
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Bomba, why the affective relationships I
have are not stable. I like assertiveness,
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00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:13.519
why it invites us to prudence that
what should motivate our word is always
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love. It was this and that
is already the basis for going out to
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conquer many goals, to fight,
to give a better version and enjoy life
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00:00:28.199 --> 00:00:40.039
fully. You know how to overcome
apathy. It was the question a young
6
00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:45.840
man asked me in the city of
Barranquilla. While I was waiting for public
7
00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:51.719
transport, he approached me, greeted
me very kindly and looking me in the
8
00:00:52.119 --> 00:00:56.840
eye, asked me that question.
Sure, He expected from me a magic
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00:00:56.920 --> 00:01:03.960
formula, a few words that had
the power to fill his life with encouragement
10
00:01:03.040 --> 00:01:08.959
and strength to move on. So
the first thing I insisted on was that
11
00:01:10.079 --> 00:01:18.920
I had to reflect, train and
find a way forward and clear if it
12
00:01:18.959 --> 00:01:25.840
was necessary to seek professional help from
someone who would accompany him in that process.
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The first thing I did was ask
him what he understood by apathy and
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00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:40.239
he told me what that boredom,
that discouragement or that indifference to life was.
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He told me I have a feeling
I don' t want to do
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anything. I lack interest in that
which I used to love to do is
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you. I looked at him fondly
and told him that the first thing was
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00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:07.840
to look for the causes of that
apathy. I told him that from psychology
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00:02:07.959 --> 00:02:12.759
or from the sciences of human behavior, it is believed that stress, especially
20
00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:17.599
chronic stress, can exhaust energy and
motivation by making one have that feeling that
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00:02:17.719 --> 00:02:27.120
he denounces. Other cases are depression. It can be a symptom of depression
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apathy, and there you need to
go to the doctor to be diagnosed and
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00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:38.080
to actually check what isn' t
working. I also told her that other
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00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:43.080
authors think it' s lack of
sleep, not sleeping enough, not getting
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tired enough, that that has a
negative impact on the mood. Also the
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lack of purpose, that is,
not having a meaning in life, a
27
00:02:54.120 --> 00:03:01.360
direction, an object. It'
s possible that it ends up dismotivating and
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00:03:01.400 --> 00:03:06.199
disinteresting people in life because they don' t really know what' s best.
29
00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:13.560
There may also be physiological causes from
some medications that you may be consuming.
30
00:03:14.319 --> 00:03:19.039
Then he insisted that the first thing
to overcome apathy is to have a
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00:03:19.639 --> 00:03:24.960
clear cause. What is behind that
sense of discouragement, what is the source
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00:03:25.080 --> 00:03:32.639
or what is the stimulus that causes
that emotional response of wanting to do nothing.
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Second, I insisted on the need
to take care of his health.
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Yes, I told him, you
have to eat well, you have to
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sleep well, you have to take
care of yourself physically, spiritually and mentally.
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Take care of your health, you
have to be aware of what'
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00:03:55.759 --> 00:04:01.199
s going on in your body,
what' s going on in your mind,
38
00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:02.680
how you' re reacting emotionally and
what' s happening to you in
39
00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:08.400
your spirit. The third thing I
said, please, I have a life
40
00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:13.520
project. What has helped me the
most is to have a life project.
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I celebrate and bless my trainers of
the Juan 23tres Regional Seminary, the parents
42
00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:29.519
who welcomed me there when I was
seventeen years old and taught me to elaborate
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a personal life project, that is, to be clear about my purpose,
44
00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:42.360
what my dream is, and to
try to put it gradually in stages,
45
00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:47.680
being clear in resources and having clear
how to evaluate it. I believe that
46
00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:55.639
this is an instrument, a fundamental
resource in the training process. In all
47
00:04:55.639 --> 00:05:00.399
schools, every school should work on
the personal life project that everyone knows what
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they' re studying for, what
they' re doing what they' re
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00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:09.079
doing. What are the dreams,
what are the desires that move it and
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00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:15.439
that pull it out is definitely required
to set goals. Fourth, I told
51
00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:19.800
him to enjoy life through actions,
attitudes that generate pleasure, participate in activities
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00:05:19.959 --> 00:05:29.079
that interest you and make you feel
good and do it. Please, even
53
00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:34.040
if you don' t feel like
it, many times we believe that first
54
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they are the desire and then they
are the activities, and not many times
55
00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:47.240
first we do and doing we get
the desire and in activity we get the
56
00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:50.439
desire for the passion, for the
pleasure that we are experiencing. This is
57
00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:58.680
fundamental that you are able to find
activities that will passion you for it,
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00:05:58.879 --> 00:06:02.920
surround yourself with positive people, surround
yourself with people who encourage you, people
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00:06:02.920 --> 00:06:06.680
who contribute to you, people who
believe in you, who trust you and
60
00:06:06.759 --> 00:06:11.519
fill you with desire, to go
forward with desire, to overcome difficulties and
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00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:16.720
problems, one last thing I told
you avoid the substances that take you out
62
00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:21.680
of reality, Because, even if
you don' t believe, those substances
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00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:30.079
that take you out of reality end
up causing, after its effect, that
64
00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:34.480
feeling of apathy, that feeling of
discouragement. I said firmly and clearly,
65
00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:41.120
look at the abuse of alcohol,
look at the abuse of drugs. That
66
00:06:41.399 --> 00:06:46.600
' s not good for someone who' s feeling unmotivated, so he'
67
00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:53.160
s feeling sad. And in the
end I told him listen think about an
68
00:06:53.800 --> 00:06:58.240
activity, a spiritual practice. If
you know me and ask me, you
69
00:06:58.839 --> 00:07:02.879
know that I am a Catholic,
you know that I am a priest,
70
00:07:03.079 --> 00:07:08.959
that I no longer exercise the presbyterate
and that I have religious practices that help
71
00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:15.000
me. But I told him to
look for spiritual experiences, those that allow
72
00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:19.439
you to skip life, those that
allow you to connect with the best of
73
00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:26.959
your being, those that allow you
to know valuable, valuable, namely that
74
00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:32.439
you are a person with so many
qualities and abilities. I told him to
75
00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:38.879
have moments for silence, for meditation, to thank, to see more sunsets
76
00:07:38.920 --> 00:07:44.959
more sunrises, to enjoy that which
perhaps many people do not value, but
77
00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:49.800
which is fundamental in the search for
meaning, in the search for desire.
78
00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:56.560
To move on, I ended up
praying for that young man. I told
79
00:07:56.600 --> 00:07:59.839
him I can do it, and
he said yes, Alberto, and I
80
00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:05.079
ended up praying for him and crying
to the God of heaven to give him
81
00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:11.839
strength, but immediately I climbed into
the transmeter I noted this I am telling
82
00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:16.560
you and I said I' m
going to do an episode of the podcast
83
00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:24.399
of this because, like that young
man, there may be many people who
84
00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:30.560
are or are discouraged and need reflections
that provoke them to want to get ahead,
85
00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:31.120
that provoke them to find tasks,
find ways to do. That is
86
00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:35.919
why today I invite you to reflect
on each of these keys that I gave
87
00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:39.559
to that young man and that I
believe he can help you. So do
88
00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:43.480
I. I' m convinced that' s going to help us all.
89
00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:50.080
I particularly have to thank that I
always live animated, that I always live
90
00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:56.639
eagerly and that in moments of apathy
are transmissory passengers in my life and I
91
00:08:56.759 --> 00:09:01.960
quickly get hooked on some project,
in some dream, perhaps because I am
92
00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:07.879
always reading a text that brings me
happiness. Or because I' m writing,
93
00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:11.559
scrubbing chronicles that may never be published
or articles that may not interest anyone,
94
00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:16.000
but that I' m happy to
write them. Or maybe because I
95
00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:20.960
drink coffee with the friends I love
and love, or maybe because I enjoy
96
00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:28.360
life with my partner doing what we
both like. Thank you for being with
97
00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:31.159
us. If you know people you
think this episode can help you, send
98
00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:37.559
it to them always does well.
We' re in Dizer, we'
99
00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:41.639
re in Spotify, we' re
in Apple and Amazon. I' m
100
00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:46.399
happy because the second edition of the
book is out. The man is alive
101
00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:50.120
and with you. I hope someday
you can read it and enjoy it.
102
00:09:54.120 --> 00:10:03.879
You know Boombaux.
1
00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:08.119
Bomba, why the affective relationships I
have are not stable. I like assertiveness,
2
00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:13.519
why it invites us to prudence that
what should motivate our word is always
3
00:00:13.599 --> 00:00:22.039
love. It was this and that
is already the basis for going out to
4
00:00:22.120 --> 00:00:28.160
conquer many goals, to fight,
to give a better version and enjoy life
5
00:00:28.199 --> 00:00:40.039
fully. You know how to overcome
apathy. It was the question a young
6
00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:45.840
man asked me in the city of
Barranquilla. While I was waiting for public
7
00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:51.719
transport, he approached me, greeted
me very kindly and looking me in the
8
00:00:52.119 --> 00:00:56.840
eye, asked me that question.
Sure, He expected from me a magic
9
00:00:56.920 --> 00:01:03.960
formula, a few words that had
the power to fill his life with encouragement
10
00:01:03.040 --> 00:01:08.959
and strength to move on. So
the first thing I insisted on was that
11
00:01:10.079 --> 00:01:18.920
I had to reflect, train and
find a way forward and clear if it
12
00:01:18.959 --> 00:01:25.840
was necessary to seek professional help from
someone who would accompany him in that process.
13
00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:33.159
The first thing I did was ask
him what he understood by apathy and
14
00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:40.239
he told me what that boredom,
that discouragement or that indifference to life was.
15
00:01:41.319 --> 00:01:45.879
He told me I have a feeling
I don' t want to do
16
00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:53.879
anything. I lack interest in that
which I used to love to do is
17
00:01:53.879 --> 00:02:01.159
you. I looked at him fondly
and told him that the first thing was
18
00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:07.840
to look for the causes of that
apathy. I told him that from psychology
19
00:02:07.959 --> 00:02:12.759
or from the sciences of human behavior, it is believed that stress, especially
20
00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:17.599
chronic stress, can exhaust energy and
motivation by making one have that feeling that
21
00:02:17.719 --> 00:02:27.120
he denounces. Other cases are depression. It can be a symptom of depression
22
00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:31.479
apathy, and there you need to
go to the doctor to be diagnosed and
23
00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:38.080
to actually check what isn' t
working. I also told her that other
24
00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:43.080
authors think it' s lack of
sleep, not sleeping enough, not getting
25
00:02:43.199 --> 00:02:51.360
tired enough, that that has a
negative impact on the mood. Also the
26
00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:54.000
lack of purpose, that is,
not having a meaning in life, a
27
00:02:54.120 --> 00:03:01.360
direction, an object. It'
s possible that it ends up dismotivating and
28
00:03:01.400 --> 00:03:06.199
disinteresting people in life because they don' t really know what' s best.
29
00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:13.560
There may also be physiological causes from
some medications that you may be consuming.
30
00:03:14.319 --> 00:03:19.039
Then he insisted that the first thing
to overcome apathy is to have a
31
00:03:19.639 --> 00:03:24.960
clear cause. What is behind that
sense of discouragement, what is the source
32
00:03:25.080 --> 00:03:32.639
or what is the stimulus that causes
that emotional response of wanting to do nothing.
33
00:03:35.199 --> 00:03:38.840
Second, I insisted on the need
to take care of his health.
34
00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:43.639
Yes, I told him, you
have to eat well, you have to
35
00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:50.199
sleep well, you have to take
care of yourself physically, spiritually and mentally.
36
00:03:51.439 --> 00:03:55.639
Take care of your health, you
have to be aware of what'
37
00:03:55.759 --> 00:04:01.199
s going on in your body,
what' s going on in your mind,
38
00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:02.680
how you' re reacting emotionally and
what' s happening to you in
39
00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:08.400
your spirit. The third thing I
said, please, I have a life
40
00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:13.520
project. What has helped me the
most is to have a life project.
41
00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:21.319
I celebrate and bless my trainers of
the Juan 23tres Regional Seminary, the parents
42
00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:29.519
who welcomed me there when I was
seventeen years old and taught me to elaborate
43
00:04:29.639 --> 00:04:34.199
a personal life project, that is, to be clear about my purpose,
44
00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:42.360
what my dream is, and to
try to put it gradually in stages,
45
00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:47.680
being clear in resources and having clear
how to evaluate it. I believe that
46
00:04:47.680 --> 00:04:55.639
this is an instrument, a fundamental
resource in the training process. In all
47
00:04:55.639 --> 00:05:00.399
schools, every school should work on
the personal life project that everyone knows what
48
00:05:00.800 --> 00:05:03.839
they' re studying for, what
they' re doing what they' re
49
00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:09.079
doing. What are the dreams,
what are the desires that move it and
50
00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:15.439
that pull it out is definitely required
to set goals. Fourth, I told
51
00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:19.800
him to enjoy life through actions,
attitudes that generate pleasure, participate in activities
52
00:05:19.959 --> 00:05:29.079
that interest you and make you feel
good and do it. Please, even
53
00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:34.040
if you don' t feel like
it, many times we believe that first
54
00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:41.720
they are the desire and then they
are the activities, and not many times
55
00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:47.240
first we do and doing we get
the desire and in activity we get the
56
00:05:47.319 --> 00:05:50.439
desire for the passion, for the
pleasure that we are experiencing. This is
57
00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:58.680
fundamental that you are able to find
activities that will passion you for it,
58
00:05:58.879 --> 00:06:02.920
surround yourself with positive people, surround
yourself with people who encourage you, people
59
00:06:02.920 --> 00:06:06.680
who contribute to you, people who
believe in you, who trust you and
60
00:06:06.759 --> 00:06:11.519
fill you with desire, to go
forward with desire, to overcome difficulties and
61
00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:16.720
problems, one last thing I told
you avoid the substances that take you out
62
00:06:16.759 --> 00:06:21.680
of reality, Because, even if
you don' t believe, those substances
63
00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:30.079
that take you out of reality end
up causing, after its effect, that
64
00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:34.480
feeling of apathy, that feeling of
discouragement. I said firmly and clearly,
65
00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:41.120
look at the abuse of alcohol,
look at the abuse of drugs. That
66
00:06:41.399 --> 00:06:46.600
' s not good for someone who' s feeling unmotivated, so he'
67
00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:53.160
s feeling sad. And in the
end I told him listen think about an
68
00:06:53.800 --> 00:06:58.240
activity, a spiritual practice. If
you know me and ask me, you
69
00:06:58.839 --> 00:07:02.879
know that I am a Catholic,
you know that I am a priest,
70
00:07:03.079 --> 00:07:08.959
that I no longer exercise the presbyterate
and that I have religious practices that help
71
00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:15.000
me. But I told him to
look for spiritual experiences, those that allow
72
00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:19.439
you to skip life, those that
allow you to connect with the best of
73
00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:26.959
your being, those that allow you
to know valuable, valuable, namely that
74
00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:32.439
you are a person with so many
qualities and abilities. I told him to
75
00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:38.879
have moments for silence, for meditation, to thank, to see more sunsets
76
00:07:38.920 --> 00:07:44.959
more sunrises, to enjoy that which
perhaps many people do not value, but
77
00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:49.800
which is fundamental in the search for
meaning, in the search for desire.
78
00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:56.560
To move on, I ended up
praying for that young man. I told
79
00:07:56.600 --> 00:07:59.839
him I can do it, and
he said yes, Alberto, and I
80
00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:05.079
ended up praying for him and crying
to the God of heaven to give him
81
00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:11.839
strength, but immediately I climbed into
the transmeter I noted this I am telling
82
00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:16.560
you and I said I' m
going to do an episode of the podcast
83
00:08:16.600 --> 00:08:24.399
of this because, like that young
man, there may be many people who
84
00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:30.560
are or are discouraged and need reflections
that provoke them to want to get ahead,
85
00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:31.120
that provoke them to find tasks,
find ways to do. That is
86
00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:35.919
why today I invite you to reflect
on each of these keys that I gave
87
00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:39.559
to that young man and that I
believe he can help you. So do
88
00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:43.480
I. I' m convinced that' s going to help us all.
89
00:08:45.480 --> 00:08:50.080
I particularly have to thank that I
always live animated, that I always live
90
00:08:50.200 --> 00:08:56.639
eagerly and that in moments of apathy
are transmissory passengers in my life and I
91
00:08:56.759 --> 00:09:01.960
quickly get hooked on some project,
in some dream, perhaps because I am
92
00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:07.879
always reading a text that brings me
happiness. Or because I' m writing,
93
00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:11.559
scrubbing chronicles that may never be published
or articles that may not interest anyone,
94
00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:16.000
but that I' m happy to
write them. Or maybe because I
95
00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:20.960
drink coffee with the friends I love
and love, or maybe because I enjoy
96
00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:28.360
life with my partner doing what we
both like. Thank you for being with
97
00:09:28.360 --> 00:09:31.159
us. If you know people you
think this episode can help you, send
98
00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:37.559
it to them always does well.
We' re in Dizer, we'
99
00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:41.639
re in Spotify, we' re
in Apple and Amazon. I' m
100
00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:46.399
happy because the second edition of the
book is out. The man is alive
101
00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:50.120
and with you. I hope someday
you can read it and enjoy it.
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You know Boombaux.











